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guys. Welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. I'm here with my favorite, first, best lover, more than anything I say that with my whole heart, and I mean it, Holly Madison. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be back. So excited. You are actually so, your energy is so high today, and I love it. Not that it's not always, but you're at a high today, and I love- No, it's crazy. My energy has changed the last couple of weeks. Even Bridget was saying something. She keeps saying, you look different. You look different. Something's different. I just feel really aligned right now. I feel like

manifestation is almost becoming instant like something I don't know if it's just years and years of like trying to start my life over and finally like hitting a stride or what it is but I feel like I'm in it and I love it and I'm so excited you're feeling good I feel like when you feel good because that's what it is like everything about you like you always look gorgeous but the energy is like

I don't know. It's like intoxicating. I was like, I love it. I was like, and I remember last year you were talking about like having two shows come out and now they're out. And I'm like, and you just got back from New York. You're doing so much. I'm like, are you not burned out? You're like, no, I feel great. I was like, wow. Yeah. This was the first time I've ever gone to New York and enjoyed doing press there. Cause I used to hate doing press so bad. Like I was anti, I would go for years without doing one interview. And now I went for a week and I actually like enjoyed it.

And I'm like, did I die and like enter another parallel universe or something? Maybe. Like it's that drastic of a difference. I wonder why. Why do you think? I mean, I think it's just a lot of like working on myself and trying to stay positive and working hard on things. And it's finally just like hit.

a good place where it feels a little more effortless. Yeah. It's just like all falling into place for you, which is like really cool. Like you work hard, but then everything, because it is really, you really are everywhere and you are like the face of the ID channel now. It's like crazy. Like, do you know, how did you get involved with them? That's what I need to know. Oh, well, it's because there's a guy named Jason Starlanis, who was an executive at E! during the last couple seasons of Girls Next Door. And we really bonded doing my spinoff Holly's World. And

Um, they had a show called the Playboy Martyrs that they'd already approved. And he thought of me, I don't know if he thought of me or the, um, production company thought of me to host it, but they went through my agent at first. I was like, no, I don't want to do another Playboy thing. Like I'm up to my ears in it, but they sent the deck over and it showed the cases they wanted to cover. And these were some cases I'd never heard of.

heard of and I was like oh my god this is a show I would actually watch because I've rarely ever been a part of like a show I would actually watch so super excited about it and then that did really well so he came up with the idea for Lethally Blonde which is very similar to the Playboy Murders it's not Playboy specific but the cases all revolve around somebody

whether it's the victim or the perpetrator that's like on the fringes of like the sex work industry or the entertainment industry or otherwise lead a really interesting lifestyle. So I just love it. I think it's such a good fit and I'm so happy with it. It's so, yeah, it's so interesting because like the Playboy murderers, I watched it and I never watched like true crime, but I was like, I'll watch anything you're on. And the first episode was about the story I knew. And it is interesting, like all these like bombshells that are involved with like darkness. And the first episode was like,

the girl was the, what's not the victim? What's the opposite of a victim? - The perpetrator. - Perpetrator, yeah. And I was like, this is so wild. Like you see all these bombshells just look so beautiful and then there's like those dark side to them. And it's like so spooky. Did you know about all the stories before or do you like dive in with them when you'd like produce the show? - Some of them I'd heard about before, some of them not. We always go really hard into the research of course before we start filming. I have kind of an eerie story about one of them.

There's a story we cover later in the season about a woman named Kimberly Pandalios who was murdered in the 90s in the Angeles forest. And she was a young mom. She was trying to make it in the entertainment industry and she had become connected with a photographer who wanted to take her out there to do a photo shoot.

And, you know, she thought it was legitimate work and it turned very tragic. But before I had gotten into any of the details of any of the cases, I had them like all the research printed out. I was ready to start looking at it the next day. But I was driving from L.A. to Vegas, as I do quite often. And it was like a Friday. So traffic was heavy. And there's a couple different routes you can take to Vegas to get to the 15, like

You can take either like the Pasadena Freeway or the 10 to get to the 15 or sometimes if traffic's really bad on the Cajon Pass, they'll send you like out toward Palmdale and Pear Blossom Highway. That's what we did, yeah. Yeah. But this one day, Waze was sending me this weird way I had never been before. They sent me out to Pasadena and then out through the Angelus Forest. Wow.

And I hadn't read the research on the case yet. So I didn't know that anything had happened there. And I was, you know, driving the whole way and just my mind wasn't even wandering like it usually was when I'm driving because I was just like, it's kind of dangerous out here. Like if I've got a flat tire, there's nothing out here. Like my phone isn't getting services is weird, but it was a beautiful drive. But the whole time I'm like, this is just weird that I'm being taken this way. Traffic must be off.

I don't know. And then I passed this really beautiful bridge that like made an impression on me. I'm like, you know, we passing the scenery like, oh, I've never seen this before.

So when I finally get to Vegas, I'm like going over the research. I start getting into the case and it turned out that woman was murdered in the Angeles forest. And later when they found some of her belongings, like a journal, it was found underneath that bridge. And I'm like, I just got so many chills. Yeah. And I'm like, what are the chances? That's so weird. Did you feel, you felt like, oh, this is beautiful? Or did you feel weird like going through it when you drove through it? Both. I thought it was really beautiful scenery, but I felt...

Kind of a sense of danger. I mean, I'm pretty paranoid about that stuff anyway, but kind of a sense of danger. Like, oh, I don't want to take this route ever again because, like, if I got a flat tire, if I broke down or something like that, I wouldn't feel safe just because you're not around any towns or cities and, you know. And no reception. Yeah. Oh, my God. Those things give me chills. Like, I watch it literally for you because when I watch these shows, like, it gives me chills because it's just, like –

stuff we do all the time, right? Like you just go out with a photographer and you don't think anything of it. Yeah. That's so... Oh my gosh. That's so sad. There's like so much...

But it's good. Honestly, these shows, though, do make you so much more aware. Like, I was very anti, like, true crime. But, like, after watching just all those, like, the Playboy murders, too, it's just, like, you just never know. Like, the Dorothea Stratton one always sat with me. I'm just, like, you just never know. Like, she's married to this guy. So when you get a divorce, you know, don't go by yourself, which is, like, shouldn't be your fault. But, like, it's just one of those things to, like, make sure people are around you. Absolutely. It's just scary, the things you know. Totally. So...

Because you do so many like creepy things, but you're so like bubbly. Do you ever think you'll get back to like Holly's World type shows where you also do like the bubbly you? Maybe. I was just talking about this on another podcast, how I feel like my personality is those two houses in the Palisades where there's like the pink one and the black one. Yes, I love that one. Like it sums it up. Speaking of other things, I was actually asked to do the first season of The Traitors before it came out. Oh, yeah.

Okay, get rid of our clothes. Wait, what? But listen to this. I didn't know. The one thing I thought sounded appealing was it takes place in a castle in Scotland. And Scotland is one of the few places I haven't been that I'm dying to go. Oh, my gosh. But I didn't want to do it because I didn't really know what it was. And I thought, are they asking me because they think I'm a traitor because I wrote a book about Heth? Like, I'm not going on this show where they're casting people they think are traitors. Like, I didn't know what it was. I was like, ew, I'm not doing that. No. No.

Oh my God. But you would think that because like House of Villains, you know, it's like very similar and you would think that. But like, I wonder, I didn't see, I didn't watch the first season. Did you see it at all? No, I haven't seen it, but I've heard that there's, you don't have to be like thought of as a traitor or villain to be on there. No, no, because we watched the second.

season and it was all reality stars and yeah like some of them were like really sweet and I said like housewives or survivor people like just the most random people but I think the first one was a mix of celebrities and like civilians I guess you know what I mean would you do it now yeah for like a free trip to Scotland I don't think I'd be very good at it because people are like oh housewives are so good at this show because they're good at that I don't think I'm good at that kind of stuff

But even if I got eliminated the first day, like I would just stay in Scotland for like a week. Oh, yeah. The scenery is so gorgeous. I want to go for that reason too. I only got into it because our co-host Oscar, he's like obsessed with it. And then I started watching it and I've been like gunning for it now. And so I finally signed with an agency. So I was just like, can you get me on Traders? I'm like, oh my God, if we would not – because people want to see you on it. Like I see people writing that all the time. Well, I feel like also I'm like retweeting it and being part of it. Yes.

this, but I feel like if we went on together, because you always, basically what it is, is you know someone from your show, basically. So like there was people from the real world that knew each other, housewives. The housewives didn't win. I think it was the real world people that won. But I think it'd be so good because we both do social media. I'm just like, you, me, Tiana. That would be so fun. Oh my God. It is a crazy show because you do, like the housewives stick together, but then you like, you have to turn on each other at some point and someone is a traitor. It's fun. Have you ever played Among Us? Do you know that one?

I didn't know it either, but they say it's like that. But basically, but you know the premise of traitors. Yeah. Like, okay, so basically, yeah, so three people have to be a traitor and you just like don't know. So like eventually someone has to like kill you. But it's fun. It's like murder mystery. Oh my God. You would be so good on it because you would like play into it too. I do love like murder mysteries, like those set up murder mysteries and stuff. I can't believe you said no. I know.

Well, I didn't really know what it was. I just thought they're casting me because they think I'm a traitor. So no. You're like, no. I'm not getting tricked into this. Wow. I do get hesitant about stuff like that too because in the past, like I would be asked to do certain shows that I would turn down and then the show would come out and like Kendra would be on it. And I was like,

Did they ask her after I said no or were they trying to like trick us to be on at the same time? Like I would have to put that in a clause. Like you can't have Kendra or Crystal on the show. Wait, really? Yeah, because I don't want to go on a show and have them be on there. Like you would have to pay me $5 million. Wait, really? So you don't think you could even be like for the show? Like... No. I think Traders would be the perfect show for that because there are like...

Not enemies, but there are people who like don't get along in their seasons. And so then it's easier because then you don't know who to kill off, right? It's like, you know, so then it's like, but then they would suspect you. So then you would keep them around longer because it's like, oh, it's not Holly because she would, you know, take them out or something like that. That's interesting. Well, I guess you could. I don't know. Those shows are tricky. I always think that too. Not that I really, I was like, maybe if I see someone, oh God, that would be great. They're filming October of this year. Are you free? I can make myself free. That's what I said too. I was like, you know, maybe.

Maybe we'll be three months old. It'll be fine. Because they do crazy like physical challenges too. Do you do that kind of stuff like propelling? No, but it would be funny to watch me try, I think. Like I'm down to like be silly. Like I had to do this thing in New York for women's health where like you have to answer a question. And if it's a question you turn down or don't have a good answer to, you have to do like some kind of exercise. And they had me do burpees. And my PR person was like, don't do like a knee burpee because it looks like

you're humping the ground. And I was just laughing so hard and doing such a bad job. But like, it's also funny. So burpees are kind of hard and they kind of do look like that. Are you not? Cause you are physical, you work out, but you don't like to do like coordination activities, like mountain climbing and stuff.

No, I'm more like hiking and like low impact stuff and then like circuit training at home and like yoga, Pilates. Like there's certain things I like to do, but also vary on my own terms. Like I would get so mad if I had a personal trainer like in my face trying to tell, like I have to be like at my own pace and everything. But you would be good on this show because they do hike so much. And that's what I was thinking. I was like,

I don't know if I could do this. I like it though because it's all people in like our age range. Like it's not like 20 year olds. You know what I mean? So like they had someone from Shazza Sunset. Like they're all, all the women were like 40s, 50s and they were like propelling at the very end because the women made it towards the end. There was only one guy and like six girls left and they all had to like propel off like this like mountain and

It was kind of inspiring because they all were not in shape. And I was kind of like, I would love to just try. It would probably be awful that I'm not coordinated. Yeah. It's like one of those once in a lifetime things that's fun to catch on TV. Oh, my God. Okay. We're in. Please call us. I literally have been pitching so hard. I'm like, I will do it for free. But I know they get paid. There's one girl who talked about her salary and they get paid a lot. I was like, that's kind of crazy. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. I was like, wow. Okay. I would just literally do it just for the experience. Yeah. I would get paid to go to Scotland.

Oh, right. Yeah. And like in the castle and stuff, it just looks, and they dress the part. Oh my God, it'd be so much fun. We could wear our cloak. Like you're literally in the trader's cloak. I think it's green. Ooh. Yeah. I like it. Manifesting. Yeah, totally. I feel that a thousand percent. And then they go up to the tower, all the traders and at night and they discuss who they're going to like kill and stuff like that. Yeah. It's,

spooky. So Harry Potter in the astrology tower or astronomy tower. You would just be there with all your – wait, are you Ravenclaw? I think that's why I chose to be Ravenclaw too because I think – I was like I saw – and the ecto nails as you called them. Yes, ecto green. This is the color I get the most compliments on and I don't know. Like you know sometimes people compliment you and I don't know if they really like it. They're just saying it because it's unusual and they say something about it. I don't know. Maybe it's that but I love it. It's fun. It's my favorite. No, it's the best. You're like, oh, we have the same color. And then we get the pink and green color combo which is my favorite. Yeah.

People call that, they say you're not slick Wanda and Cosmo. Do you know that? No. It's from Fairly Odd Parents. I didn't know either. I guess they're like pink and green. And every time there's pink and green, they're like, you're not slick Wanda and Cosmo. Oh, I didn't know that. I always think of Beverly Hills Hotel, which isn't this exact shade, but that's what I always think of with pink and green. The pale pink. That wallpaper is very popular now. We almost got it for our bathroom, but I'm like, maybe it looks like we're in the hotel. I used to have a dog house in my backyard. It was like a

a human size, size of a casita. But I had it, it was like Spanish style and it was painted like pink on the outside. And I had the banana leaf wallpaper on the inside. So it was like, and I had all the, cause they used to make, I think they still do like Beverly Hills hotel dog beds and like dog accessories. So it was all done like that. And it was in my first house I lived in in Vegas. And the HOA was so horrible. Like you couldn't see this from the street, but they would send me like drone pictures of my backyard and like, you can't have a pink

Casita in your backyard. What? I was so angry. I wanted to sue them so bad because I felt like they were just getting up in my business. Like if nobody can see what's in my backyard, you don't need to be droning. I was going to say, what else are they droning? Like what if you're out there like naked or something, you could sue them. Ew, that's so weird. And yeah, if you're in your backyard, so what did you do? Did you take it down? No, I sold the house. I was like, I'm getting out of here. Because of that?

Um, no, it's cause I got married and we bought like a bigger, better house. But, um, I, no, no, I did not even want to deal with them. Was this the house on Holly's world? Oh, I live for that house though. That was so cute. It was a fun house. I did a lot of fun, like customization things inside there. And you sold them like that as is. So whoever bought the house got all the cute little, oh, they're so lucky. I watched that. I'm like, uh,

Holly's World was definitely my favorite. That's why I feel like you should do like a second reboot of that. Whenever I go to Vegas, I just feel like you. I was just like, oh, this is where – we went to Sugar Factory. We go to all those places. Oh, fun. Yeah. We have to go back with Tana and do like tavern stuff at Excalibur. I would live. And you know what they have at Excalibur? So there's like a big – not a drawbridge, but like the thing that goes over the moat.

And underneath it, they have a dragon, like an animatronic dragon that used to come out back in the day, but it's just down there rotting like some mechanophobia in the water type thing. But I'm like, you need to let me down there to take a picture with this creepy dragon. And then they have it? Well, I never really asked, but...

But we need to go to like a Tournament of Kings and like do tavern videos there. That's – It's very tavern. Do you think they would – like do you think they would let us – or you're just saying just go like as a person and be like, we're just filming here? Oh, no. I'd have to ask because I think we would want to get into like Tournament of Kings before anybody else was there. Yeah. We wouldn't be able to hear anything. I feel weird doing TikTok sometimes in front of like people like, you know. Yeah, because it's like influencers in the wild. Yeah. People are like, what are you doing? Could you imagine we're there and just like pretending we're in the tavern? I know. I know.

It's fun when they like know we're coming, but I feel like you have those connections. But Excalibur, well, they probably won't let us in after this, but it's kind of like spooky, right? It's kind of like haunted. I think I tagged you and Tiana in a video. I think it was Plan Bree. They were talking about how every time they're in Vegas, they pass by the Excalibur and they just think it looks like something really bad happened. Yes. Is there any truth? Is there any facts like to back that up or they just think that?

They're just like, it looks creepy. I mean, I've heard haunted stories from there, but not anything super specific. It's just old. It's just old. There's some scary stories. When we went, I think it was Rio, right before we went, I kept getting all these TikToks of their rooms being broken into while they're sleeping. Oh, yeah.

No. Yeah. So we bought like a door jammer when we went because we were just like, I'm so scared because it was like, allegedly the hotel employees, but when Rio has asked for comment, it was like a couple weeks ago, they literally were like, oh, we don't have cameras and oh, it's probably someone they knew. Like they did not try to like make it right. I was like, so scary, all these hotels and stuff like that. I think the older ones, Rio's kind of on the, literally on the outskirts of the strip. Where do you stay? Well, I guess you have a house there, but what would you recommend staying in Vegas? I mean, my favorite's the Wynn. Oh.

That's the one we've got to stay at. That's where they have all the nice shops. And I'm always like, that's where we've got to go. Yeah. It's just so pretty and chill. And like, I have so many good memories there. It's like newer, right? I mean, it was built in like 2005, I think. Okay. So yeah, it's pretty new. So it's been around a while, but it's very nice. We're at the Harrah's. Harrah's is fun. It's fun. It was leaking when we went there last time. Literally in the casinos, there's giant trash cans. Oh no. But.

But they have a good Ruth Chris and Donny Osmond, so that's why we go. Did you ever interact with him? Because you were like so Vegas for so long. Yeah, no. He and his sister were super nice. I went to their show like right when I moved there and they gave me the cutest little like –

I think it was actual vintage like baby tea that said Donny and Marie and had their picture on it. It was so cute. And I remember I was wearing it in one of my Holly's World confessional interviews. And usually they wouldn't let us wear like branded stuff in the confessional interviews. It had to be like a plain button up sweater or something. But I like insisted I really want to wear this Donny and Marie top. And I had a little bit of green on it. And they were green screening our confessionals. So that was a whole pain in the butt. Oh, no. Because it was like messing up and stuff. But like I begged them to let me wear it. And the producer was like, okay.

I'll let you do it just because I like Donny and Marie. They're kind of the best. And they're kind of iconic Vegas now, too. Oh, 100%. I just love, like, the Vegas. I'm good after a few days. But, yeah, it's, like, a fun experience. And the drive up is fun. We've been driving now with Malibu. And it's, like, so much fun. We also got to go to the aliens. Yes. That's our next photo shoot, Area 51. Is there a place to stay up there?

Like a hotel or no? Well, I mean, there are some places. I was thinking we could just go as close. Like I have some ideas of where we could shoot it just like as close as we can get. And there's this place nearby. There's this like cool gas station place that has all this alien stuff and like this place called the Alien Brothel that's pink. And I thought it would be cute to take pictures outside there. I don't know. I have like a whole vision. You saw the mood board. Your mood boards are everything. Like you always know. What is the brothel? I've never seen it. Can you see it from the freeway? Yeah.

Yeah, it's right by like the gas station that's closest to Area 51. It's just called the Alien Brothel. And what's in it? I guess it's just a regular brothel, but alien. Wait, what? Yeah, because they're legal out there. Wait, what? Like brothels aren't legal in Las Vegas, but like in Pahrump or like some outskirts Nevada places, it's legal. Oh my God. Why would they call it the Alien Brothel though? That's like...

On theme. Do you think – oh, my God. I feel like there's some real stuff. We talked to someone the other day who's like this like legit person who like speaks to – what do they call them? Not aliens, but – Palladians. Palladians. Palladians.

Pleiadians. I've been told by psychics that have a lot of Pleiadian energy. That could be. Have you ever talked to them or like felt them or anything? Because she swore she like – they talked to her. Yeah, I've heard people on YouTube say that. I've never talked to the Pleiadians. But there's full people on YouTube where their whole channels are like channeling the Pleiadians. And they said you had Pleiadian energy like year one. Mm-hmm.

see it because I always tell people this and like the best way I'm like Holly is like you look at her and she's like this beautiful like popular cheerleader but she's like kind of like odd and like weird and like the best way makes me feel like less not like I don't feel awkward around you anyway she's so awkward I'm like no she has some like weirdness to her and like the best way so maybe that thank you it's

thing because I was just like that makes sense I never talked to the aliens either but I really do believe it like I feel like I've seen it like hallucination yeah and I feel like it's they're real I mean obviously we're getting closer to them like you know everyone's talking about it and

I would love to go on an alien, like, little hunt. What was the one you stayed at? Was it Clown Hotel? Oh, the Clown Motel. That's way out in Tonopah, which is, like, way north of Las Vegas. Oh. And that place is rough, and it's all clown-themed. It's right next to, like, an old cemetery, like,

Yeah, it's really creepy. Creepy stuff, like I don't know. I've never felt energy of like ghosts, but I always get like so scared of that. Aliens I could do because I don't think I would be scared. I'm very much like you where I feel like you could be one. You know what I mean? Where it's very much just like they're kind of like us, but more advanced, you know? Yeah, I feel like if you were going to get abducted, it would have happened.

I would love to be. Well, maybe not now with a family, but when I was younger, I really dreamed of that. I was like, oh, it could happen, you know? I've thought of that too, but then some people say it's like painful or like they lost half their hearing after being abducted. Oh, people have like real stories about it? Yeah. Oh, I haven't seen those. Yeah.

I guess I don't think it'd be painful. I feel like it'd be like men in black where they just erase your memory so you couldn't like remember the pain or something. I would be so down to do it though. That'd be fun. We'll go on our ecto nails because you gave me alien vibes. Yeah. And I was like that'd be really fun and then the whole mood boards of it. So we gotta go there. We gotta go to Excalibur. I was thinking another thing we could do is there's places out in like Red Rock Canyon where people go at certain times because

to try and like see the aliens or see the UFOs. I don't know why it's like out there. There's a certain place where people think it's more likely you're going to see it. I'd have to look into it a little more, but I've looked into it before and never did it, but I know it exists. Nevada or LA? Nevada, yeah. Oh my, I wonder why out there. Is Area 51 out there? Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, it's close to Vegas. Have you been there?

You're not allowed to go. Wait, really? Yeah. You get shot if you're outside taking pictures. No, there's signs everywhere that says no photography. We'll shoot you. Wait, really? Yeah. It's so secret. So what are they supposed to have there? Why is it so secret? It's real then. Supposedly they have...

like alien craft that they're trying to reverse engineer and things like that. What? That's so, I feel like scared talking about it because like I feel like the government, I never like talking about the government. I'm always like, I'm on your side, whatever you guys want to do because I'm like, I don't want them to come. That's crazy. So it's real. So it's like a real thing that like people are not allowed in. I don't know. I mean, people are not allowed in and that's true. Yeah. But allegedly it's like aliens. Do they say that on the signs? Like this is like,

No, I don't think so. It's just like this is a government site kind of a thing. I'll find a picture of it and send you after this. Oh, my God. That's so spooky. That kind of stuff is like crazy to me. I don't know. That's what's so funny about you. You do know so much about this stuff. And then on the flip side, you know so much about all the like fun stuff. Like we were talking about – we were talking about Miami. What was that hotel? Oh, the Versace Hotel. We need to go to the Versace Mansion. You've been to? No. We were talking about it with – I think Tana's gone. Tana's gone, right? Yeah. And I was just like I haven't never – but you've been to Miami, right?

Yeah, but very briefly. It's always been very in and out to host a Super Bowl party or something like that. I've never really spent time there, so I would like to. She swears by Miami that she's like, this is the place. Everybody says that. They're like, Miami is the lit place right now, not LA. I'm down to go. We need to go experience. I've never been. Can you hand me that, our little adventure tote?

Thanks. Adventure Toad. Adventure Toad. I love that. And this is all of our adventures. It's for me? Yeah, it's for you.

Oh my God. Okay. So there's two trips. I'm going to pull up the small ones so you guys can see. It's all of our photos from Madonna Inn. I'm obsessed. Thank you so much. Of course. There was so many photos to choose from. Oh my God. I can't wait to use this. It was so much fun. That trip, I was like, this is the best thing that we've ever done. And the photos are so good. I was like, I'm unapologetically like this is going to be my whole grid for a month. And it was. I love that. I was

so excited. Every time I opened it, I was like, oh my gosh, another one. It was so, it was, the pictures were so perfect. I'm blowing them up so they're like going to be in my glam room. They're just so pretty. Yeah, I want to blow one up for my Vegas house. I think the one of us like on the retro pink carpet. That one was pretty. Yeah. Very dolls. It was crazy because we were like filming, like shooting those at like 7 o'clock. Usually I'm in bed at 7 o'clock and I remember we were doing it to like 7 to like midnight. And then the

I could say you guys were still down and I love that. We put so much in. So much in. I didn't bring any makeup. I had to go to like Target the next morning. I was like, let me like do my makeup and stuff like that. But it was so much fun. Your makeup looks so good though. Thanks. I actually slept in it and then I just touched it up because I can't do my own. You do your own makeup. Yeah, I do. Yeah. It looks so good. I love it. We didn't even talk about our outfits today. This is our little, well, originally, okay, so, oh my God, we did it. Yeah. Oh yeah. And then we have our Just Trish cup for you too. Oh, thank you.

This is so cute. I still use my baby Yoda one you got me all the time. Oh, do you? I love this. Thank you. Oh, I'm so glad you got it. I remember that was a whole thing because it was like hard to get. I don't think we could like deliver gifts to you wherever you live. They were like called us and they're like, oh, it's like security won't let it in or something like that. I don't know. I'm glad you got it. I got it, yeah. But yeah, we didn't even intro. Well, later on in this episode, well, you guys will know by the title, Aphrodite is here. And so we were like –

First of all, I love the theme. Once again, you came up with this, which is like, I love it because I would be too embarrassed to like suggest something. And then I was like, oh, I love that we're dressing. No, suggest a theme anytime. I love doing a theme. I love getting creative. Matching. So yours is like this Taylor Swift inspired willow? From the ERA's tour, the Evermore section where she sings willow and they have like the little glowing balls because, you know, since we're getting our tarot fortunes read, we had to go a little bit witchy.

I love it. Is tarot a witchy thing? I guess we can ask Amphrodite when he's here, but you've done tarot before. You've had people read your cards. Yeah, for sure. And it's kind of like, what is it, channel?

I think it's different for every practitioner. Like the cards themselves, like if you're going with a traditional writer weight deck, there's all kinds of symbolism baked into the artwork. So every card kind of means something. But I've got readings from a lot of people who are really good. And sometimes the cards will mean different things to that practitioner. Like it doesn't have to be the same for everybody. And sometimes they're channeling certain things or just going intuitively. So I think it's different for every person. Yeah. Probably a lot of scam artists out there that don't know what they're doing. But there's really good people too. And I feel like they're all different. Yeah.

I wonder that. Have you ever had one that was like eerily got like everything spot on right and you're like, whoa, that was like crazy they knew? Oh, yeah. Really? Like a couple of people I talk to regularly that are really good with stuff like that. Really? Oh, so you use this in like your everyday life? Yeah. Oh, I don't think I've ever – I don't think I've ever actually had like a tarot card reading for me. Like Anne Frenetti has done some online for us but like never like in person with the energy of it all. I'm so excited. Is it ever bad? Yeah.

Yeah, it can be. They can tell you about bad things. But the thing about future predicting is a lot of times you can change the energy because a psychic is usually just reading the future based on the energy that exists now. That's kind of how they get it. So like I've been told...

bad things before but I feel like I've been able to change them really just with what like an energy like a mind shift like thinking differently or what yeah or if somebody said to me oh somebody in your husband's workplace is like out to get him like I tell him and then it gets noticed you know what I mean oh interesting so sometimes it's more like a warning

I trust it. The first time you came on, you're like, Mercury's in like a weird retrograde or something. And I was like, okay, girl, like let's not do it today. Because I trust that completely. When someone says it. This past week, I didn't even tell them about it, but like we had such a weird week. And then my hairdresser was saying the same thing. Like everything was going wrong. Like hair was falling out of someone's head. Like it was crazy.

crazy. And I was like, I wonder what this week was. And I was like, okay, well, hopefully it's over. But the astrology is nuts for April in general right now. It's funny because for some reason I feel everything early. Like if a retrograde is coming up, I'm having the retrograde week like a week before. I don't know why that is. But yeah, this is supposed to be like a crazy month. But I don't like to fearmonger about it or anything because sometimes it can lead to good things or whatever. I just say like when it's a retrograde or something like that, just give yourself a lot of extra time and space and

don't overschedule or just, you know, take things in stride to be more stuff. Yeah. It's just going to happen. Well, I was, I know because it was weird this week too. Maybe I was feeling it early too. Maybe it's your alien premonition. Maybe it was just like feeling something weird or something like that. Um, I still love that you do Patreon. We're talking right before this, that you're going to do more on your Patreon. So do you put mostly stuff that you maybe don't want like mainstream out there? Cause you were talking about what you were going to put out there and I was like, Ooh, this is going to be like juicy. It's kind of like

You know what? A little bit, yeah. Like, obviously, I'm aware that anybody...

can access the Patreon if they want to or anybody can like access it and then go to a message board and talk about it with everybody else like I'm aware of that clearly but I do feel like the Patreon audience is more invested and they follow along with more of what Bridget and I say so they understand things more whereas like the casual observer who might just be finding our podcast or might just be tuning in for the first time they might not have the whole like backstory and context so I

We do include a little bit more on the Patreon because of that. Like I feel more comfortable, I think. What is, how do you find your Patreon? Do you just have the link or can they search for you guys? Like Girls Next Pot or Girls Next Level? It's patreon.com slash girls next level. I don't really know how the search, the searching works. Anytime I go to somebody's Patreon, it's like I have the backslash. Okay. So it's,

patreon.com slash girls next level. Yeah. Okay. You got us into Patreon. You, Chelsea Lynn, like Bunny, so many people were doing Patreon and I was like, I used to do it years ago and then we just started doing one too and I'm like, oh my God, it is so much more fun because the people are more invested. It does stay pretty closed for the most part. I don't see too many leaks of it and if I do, I just like ask the person like take it down or something if it's behind a paywall but I feel like you can say more stuff. I feel like we say a lot more stuff that like

would be looked at as like drama or gossip in like the main podcast. I'm like, oh, well, you know, here it's like behind a paid wall. We're not doing it for like views. You know what I mean? It's just more like venting. And people get it because they have the context. Yeah. It's really a great platform. I really like it. Yeah. I feel like that's like so fun. And I love all your guys' little promo for it because you guys all have like cute little promo shots. And I'm like, I got to start doing that. So it's like swipe on up for the Patriot and

Well, that's why. But the link, like your little photos of you guys just like chilling or hanging out. Yeah, we love doing a photo shoot. How often do you guys do them now? Well, we're in the second season of our podcast now. So we've only done two shoots. I just make sure we get like a ton of looks per shoot. So I'm already starting to think about like what our season three looks are going to be because we'll do that this summer.

And you're still the only producers on the show. You don't have anyone else helping you? I do. After I do all the editing, I send it off to this guy, Andrew, who does like the sound engineering just to make sure everything's like a proper volume and sounds a lot smoother because I don't really know how to do any of that very well. But I do all the editing and all the setup and stuff.

That's wild to me. And the guests that you guys get too because you will talk to like – Yeah, we coordinate those people. Did you have his son? Did you have sons? Yeah, he's actually coming back on. We're going to do another round with him this next month. So we're excited. So he's cool with you guys. Like he's – Yeah, he's very open-minded. Like I don't think he agrees with everything I say, but he's very intelligent and open-minded and great. Yeah, you're really like –

When it comes to people like putting – Crystal put out her book and stuff recently. You're very like – you give a lot of like – even in personal life, you're very like gracious about a lot of things. Like you're very like understanding about a lot. But I also feel like I love that now you're like being more vocal too like about the stuff that bothers you, you know, like Kendra and stuff like that. Because I feel like for so long, you just like take it, take it, take it. And then if you don't say something, it just becomes like the whole truth gets like –

You know what I mean? And I feel like that's so important. And I'm such a sucker still for Playboy stories. I'm always just like, oh my gosh. Like it's just so – there's so much to it. We never run out. Like just when I think I've tapped it all, I'll remember some other thing. I'm like, oh. Or like I'll find my old like accordion files of scrapbook stuff and I'll be like, oh, forgot about this. It's just like never –

It's crazy. One thing I did find interesting is like recently, I think it was Christophe said there was like black mold in the mansion. Did you experience that? That was after we left. So I don't really know the details and it was not anything that if it was there when I was there, it didn't bother me. Like black mold can affect people differently. Yeah. Some people are just more susceptible to it.

So I didn't personally have an experience with that. Oh, okay. I was like, maybe that made like some people crazy. Like if there was like, not crazy, but like just didn't remember because like black mold can be wild. Yeah, it can cause hallucinations. That's what I heard. I was crazy. When you were here, you said you had like a little bit more. The only reason I asked

because I was so worried about our like leaking and stuff like that. Did you get it? Yeah. Not in a bad way. Only because we had the leak. I'm scared. Did you ever get it like fixed or? Yeah. Well, my LA house is a hundred years old and I had a leak in one of the upstairs bathrooms that was like carrying down to like the room underneath it.

And so I had a mold remediation at the house. And when they do that, they like seal off that whole section of the house and nobody can go in there. People are going in and like hazmat suits and like they're pumping the air out. So it's like a whole thing. So when I heard there was like a mold remediation at the mansion after I left, I was like, how did they even do that? Like where did Hef go? Like he didn't leave his room. So.

I wonder her. Yeah, that's so interesting. But she doesn't go into detail in that in the book. She says there was mold, but there's not. But I'm curious about the detail of like how the hell did they do a mold remediation at that place? Because that would be drama. That is crazy. It was drama at my little house. Yeah. Because you have to like evacuate. I did.

enough to evacuate because they just isolated the part of the house it was in but like nobody could go in that part of the house and they would like tear up the walls and like replace all the pipes and like dig everything out and make it new everything yeah it was crazy I know we've been having so much work done at our house since the rain now we're finally getting it fixed but it was like kind of the same thing and they had to like reroute the pipes and stuff like that it's been going on for so long and I was like

And then I was reading the effects. That's how I got to this is the mold part of the hallucinations. And I was like, well, maybe people don't remember life at like the Playboy Mansion. Maybe they were like hallucinating or something. Not you, but just in general. Because you hear so many different stories about it and so many different like angles. And I was just like...

Yeah, I think people, I mean, genuinely had really different stories, though, because I feel like even though he was very much a creature of habit, like every decade was so different up there. Like the 90s were so different from the 70s, which are so different from the 2000s. And then it kind of depends on like what layer of the onion you are on. Like if you were like super close living with him, like I was, that's one thing. If you're like in his inner circle coming to the movies, you're going to experience something totally different. Right. It's just like.

So many different stories. Your memory is so good, too, because I showed you a picture from before you were there. And I was like, do you remember the name of this designer? And you knew it, like, right away. I was like, wow. Oh, yeah. Well, I was obsessed with that one designer, too. Like, I have a whole, like –

closet full of their dresses. Do you? Yeah, I did a YouTube video. It was like a tour of my archive where I go over all those dresses and talk about how obsessed I am with them. Do you ever wear them now? I don't think I could fit because they were so tailored to my body and they were like super tight even back then. And like when you have a baby, sometimes your rib cage will expand and not go back and mine did. So sometimes when I try and get in those old things, like it won't zip up like past the rib cage. So I haven't tried to go back into them. I'm more just like keep them

for like, cause I love having like an archive. I remember we shared a hairdresser, Savannah, and she would be like, she has so many playboy things. And I was like, ah, I would die to see that. Is it in your house here in LA or do you have like a whole separate like warehouse for it? Some of it is, well, it used to be separate warehouse, but some of it's at my LA house. Cause I will bring some of it out for like the podcast. Like sometimes Bridget and I will like wear clothes and not say anything and see if anybody like notices the Easter egg. Like if we're talking about an episode, I'll like wear a shirt from it and see if anybody

notices. So you've kept everything? Most of it. Like not everything I wore on the show. Like not the casual clothes like jeans or I think I only have like two pairs of jeans from back in those days. But I kept like all the formal dresses and the party dresses and the costumes and things like that. You have like the peacock dress? I do, yeah. Oh my god. That's so cool. So you could have like a museum one day. That'd be so cool. Like in Vegas probably.

I was thinking too about like your show. I know we talked about this last time because I love peep shows so much. And I was like, I really feel like you would do like so good back in one of those shows. Like live performing again. Would you ever do that? It would be fun. I think, you know, with my kids, I'd have a hard time sticking to like that rigorous of a schedule because you're going to have like a permanent residency. You really have to.

you know. Be in Vegas. Yeah. Or just be on stage at a certain time, which is like also my kid's bedtime. It's just like, it doesn't jive in any way schedule wise. But I loved being in a show. Like that was one of my favorite jobs I ever had. It was so much fun. Every time I go there, I always like, I love the hoodie you guys wear. It was a black zip up

hoodie and I had like the big peep on the back. And I was like – and now I follow Josh. I follow Angel. I follow all those things. And I was just like, oh, it's like so – I don't know. The nostalgia of it all is so cool. And I love seeing you on TV, but I was like, God, I really want to see like Holly's life on TV, you know? But I guess you're like not – I guess you would do it now, right? Or – Not about my personal life, but like if I had like some kind of like assignment to go do, I'd do it. Like if I had to like go on a road trip and do weird shit, I'd go do that. Yeah.

that. Yeah, like something that's more like scripted and stuff like that. Task-based, yeah. Oh, yeah, because we had talked about that when we went to Cracker Barrel. It was like a reboot of The Simple Life. Yeah. Which I was like, I think you should do it with Bridget, but I was like, if she doesn't want to, I'm so down to do it too. Well, I think Kiana wants to do it too. Okay, well, we'll all do it. Because I've

Let's go find aliens. Yes. Oh my God. But that's fun into itself. That's such a classic show. It's just like, I don't know, just doing tasks are fun. Like you said, it doesn't have to be about your life, but they see your personality. That'd be so fun. I love how in tune you are. And we were talking about this too, is social media, how you know everything and see all the trends. It's crazy. Even today with Amphrodite, you're just like, I love him. I'm like, really? Because I've known him for so long. And I was like, it's just crazy. How do you find these people? Even me, last year we did a mukbang together before I did the podcast. I'm like-

how do you find all these people and like all these like niches? It's just the algorithm. It's just, I'm not even looking. But that's what's crazy. Like me, Amphrodite, or I remember on your show, Nicole, what, 337? Yes. I'm like,

even come up in your, especially back in the day when there was really no algorithm. How do you even find these people? I found Nicole 337 through Perez Hilton, I think was posting about her. Yeah. I don't know. It's just like serendipity. I just find all these fun stuff. You should really have like an agency or something where you find these people because it's so, and the people you find or send me sometimes too, I'm just like, how did you see that? How do you find it? It's like so...

You're just on TikTok. You just love – we were talking about the TikTok ban earlier and we were saying like – We'd be so sad. Yeah. Just like not even posting. I'm like, whatever. I don't make money on there. It doesn't matter to posting. But I would get – I wouldn't get any news. I wouldn't know what's going on. I know. I know. It's just such a different vibe. Like the other social media platforms have not been able to replicate. And I would feel very disconnected I think if TikTok got banned. And yeah, because it shows you things that like I would never have seen. Like what's your For You page look like now? Yeah.

Oh my God. I should like pull it up and actually see. Yeah. Well, sometimes it'll get thrown off. Like every once in a while I'll have a night when I'm like, oh, I need a reset. Like I hate it when I see like doomsday stuff or like people are like the end of the world is coming. Like I think you want the end of the world to come. Yes. Because you're miserable and it makes me so mad. But I love seeing fun people like Aunt Ferdite or even like

not to be mean because I love JLo and I admire her work ethic and what she's done so much but I'm getting like the weirdest JLo discourse on my and I need to know I keep asking people like what is going on in her astrology right now because something is yeah she's like not on the people are just piling on why do you think that is I know because I thought that

I thought that too I was like wait I thought JLo was like loved she was like the Super Bowl like everyone loved her and now it sounds like just JLo hate non-stop I don't know and we like we all had like on the podcast we all had like our own JLo stories that were like not great with her but now I'm kind of like

kind of like I kind of love the like land of Delulu she lives in you know what I mean it's getting to be Mariah Carey status and I just love Mariah Carey so much she knows who she is she owns it did you see her show in Vegas yes I did oh good just amazing the love like I know you go to any concert and like the fans have love for the performer but there's something special about like the love Mariah fans have for her that I never noticed anywhere else it was just really unique

And she was so gorgeous on stage. And she's so personable. Like, I wasn't, like, a huge fan when I went to go see the show because I didn't – now I'm a huge, huge fan. But, like, I didn't know that much about her. But seeing her – and she, like, waves and, like, winks and you just think she, like, knows you. You're just like, oh, my God. It feels so special. She's really cute. There's something about that –

at Caesars where like if the right performer is there they can make it feel like you're in their living room like Celine was like that too I never saw her oh man that would have been so good to see was she in the same place as Mariah yeah Coliseum I feel

I feel like, yeah, we were like really close to Mariah and it was like really cool. I think it was Elton John there too, right? Yeah. I was like, yeah, they have the big performers. They have like amazing – I'd love to perform at Caesars too. I have manifestations. I was like, you know, I'd love to go to Vegas. I still think Peep Show. I'm just like, God, I wish they'd bring Peep Show back or something. I know. It was such a fun show. Yeah.

because I feel like that is like the one that I think of now going to the strip there's just not we saw Donny Osmond two nights in a row because there wasn't really any other show oh you should see Dita Von Tisa's show oh is it good it's not there all the time though like she has certain weeks she's there but yeah it's super fun it's

burlesque and it's in the old Jubilee Theater which was like the last of like the old school showgirl shows that were there because when I went to it I was thinking of you the whole time like you'd have so much fun here and she's in it so it's not just like a show oh wow yeah I would imagine it's like really limited because she's probably so busy I love Pin Up I love like the whole thing so she's that's not naked though that's just like teasing yeah it's like pasties I think yeah

I love it. Yeah, there's not really a lot of like – not to be like whatever. I love topless shows and I wish they had those. Oh my God. No, those were everything. There was one at the Flamingo for a long time and it was like really good topless review, but I just always loved it. Yeah. Because I was like that's what I always want to be. It's just cool because it's like not – it's just beautiful. It's not like raunchy. It's just like cute. So she's just more –

Oh, I love it. I was like, because I don't really know. Who else did we see? I guess Blue Man Group is still there. But Luxor is like haunted too. Have you seen those? It's the most haunted one. Like that place is crazy. Have you stayed there? I used to live there. Wait, what? Did you really? Oh, oh. You're like, oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Wait. But like, okay, so you guys were like, you were in a fancy like room. Did you feel any like weirdness there? Because the rooms, it's like. It wasn't paranormal, but yeah.

It wasn't the Luxor. Oh, my God. How was it? Overall, your energy while you lived there, what was it? That's crazy. How long did you live there for? Like four months. Wow. And then what would you do like during the day? Like would you just go down and like hang out at like El Diablo or like? No, I was kind of like.

Attached to the hip with somebody and just living that life. And was that when you first got to Vegas? Yeah, that was when I first moved out to Vegas. I was coming out to Vegas anyway because before I got signed on to do Peep Show, I was supposed to do a show called Crazy Horse Paris that was at the MGM. So I was coming out to like meet with them and stuff like that. And then I met a guy I was with for a few months and

He didn't want me doing Crazy Horse Paris, so I was like stalling on that. But then Peep Show ended up coming along and it was kind of like a bigger, better deal for me. And just everything kind of fell into place. And he was fine with that? Oh, I wasn't with him anymore. Oh, okay. So you're like, I'm doing Peep Show, bye. That's crazy. So you went from one relationship here in LA to another one in Vegas. Mm-hmm.

yeah that's crazy that that's a lot and then also to feel that way like you're free and then all of a sudden now you're like trapped again yeah but it was kind of a gift because it was like the universe showed me like the patterns not to get into you know because coming from the playboy thing it was easy to make excuses for that because he was such a unique person but then you learn that no this is just something that some men do right so yeah it's like I was

That's what the entertainment meant of it all. I mean, I know you're always with entertainment guys, but I'm just saying like sometimes I feel like it gets in this weird like warped world. You really got to find the balance. Do you prefer Vegas over L.A.? I do. Yeah. Oh, really? So you're seeing like a different side of Vegas. Like what do you do there? You're not going to the strip every day.

No. I mean, it's just, oh, first of all, like I love the neighborhood I live in. I love just going for walks in my neighborhood. I love, I don't know. I just feel like that's my normal day-to-day life. Like when I'm here in LA, I'm doing specific things. I'm like recording for the podcast and stuff like that. But Vegas is just like my day-to-day life. Go out to eat with my friends and you know. It's more like simple, you think? Yeah. More laid back. I love Vegas too. We always look at houses out there and I was like, God, it's like

So nice. It is. It just seems like less, I don't know. But you're out in this area a lot. We're not really in LA. We're kind of like outside of LA. And every time I see you in this area too, I'm just like, this is also like kind of relaxing. It's not like LA. Like you have a house in like Hollywood. Yeah. And that can be intense. Yeah. That's like you don't even want to do a basic errand. It's just everything's a thing. But you are close to the Snow White Cafe. Is that still there? I saw you posted about it. It's been there forever. Is it cute? Or is it like worth the tripping? Because it's like an hour from me and I'm always like, I want to go. But like, is it worth a trip? Or is it just kind of like, eh?

I would say plan to do some other things too because it's just like, it's very small so there's not a lot to see. And you know what else I did when I was down there is we went to this place called the Medieval Torture Museum. It's like you go into one of those stores on Hollywood Boulevard and you go down the stairs and they have like all these like wax figures like demonstrating like,

medieval torture and I took footage of it I was gonna make a TikTok and I never did for some reason but oh my gosh you know you should if you're gonna go down there you should plan a whole day of like random Hollywood Boulevard stuff was it why do they have that just for like entertainment value or I guess so oh like can you buy I mean I hope that's the only reason you can't buy like the torture devices or anything no uh uh

What is that, guillotine and stuff like that? Just weird, creepy stuff. And they have like the mannequins there that like demonstrate like what it would do to people. How do you find these things? We were just walking around and we saw a sign for it and we're like, we have to check this out. That – I never know where to find – like again, TikTok, it helps me find certain things, but I never see that kind of stuff on TikTok.

That's why I was curious about your For You page. I was just like, what would you see? Because you just find the most random people. Yeah, I do get haunted stuff. I get fun travel stuff on my FYP and just fun people. Where's like a dream destination for you? Scotland, definitely. And I think Romania too. I really want to go. Where is that? Where is Romania? It's like Eastern Europe and it's where like Dracula's castle is, which wasn't really his castle. It was just a place he stayed for a minute. But it's very like I follow the Romania TikTok account and Instagram account and they just show like the –

coolest footage oh wait so when you say Dracula like the real Dracula or like Bela Lugosi as Dracula no Vlad the Impaler who was that Dracula is that a real one he was I don't know who that is he was like the real historic guy who would like impale people and that's um when Bram Stoker wrote Dracula he kind of based the character a little bit on that oh my god and did he have like the teeth and stuff

I don't think so. He wasn't like a vampire. He wasn't like a sucker or anything. No, he was just killed a lot of people. So they kind of like invented like this bloodthirsty character. Oh my gosh. So, but what's the lore about him that like drew you to him that you're like, oh, I know where he lived.

I think just like spooky stuff in general. I don't know. And just I've always been intrigued with Romania and it just looks – it looks so old world over there still. I think it looks really cool. I feel like The Bachelor went there. I feel like I saw – that's the only time I've heard of kind of Romania but I didn't know where it was. Have you ever been to like a castle? I'm trying to think. I don't –

I'm sure it's one of those things where I'm going to go, no, I haven't. But I know that I'm going to leave here and be like, oh, 15 years ago when I was in Europe, I went to this one place and then somebody's going to call me out on it and be like, you're a liar. Oh my God. Do you get that? Do you get that happening to you? Oh, totally. I was just talking about this with Bridget on the podcast, how anytime I'm saying anything on our podcast, there's a part of my brain that's like triple checking everything. Like you're afraid to say anything because there's always going to be that one person. And now I'm just at the point where I don't limit looking at comments.

Yes. More than I used to because somebody's going to like call you out or they're going to make up some weird thing in their head that's not even real and say you're contradicting yourself when you're not. And I'm just like, goodbye. That's the worst. And that's what I had to stop doing too. And now I have to say, I don't know because I really don't. I'll say like I've never had a hot dog and they find like one clip of me trying a hot dog in like 2011. And I was like, oh my gosh. And they really do find everything, which is like –

It's kind of impressive that people like know your whole archive of your life. But some of it's just straight up delusion. Like sometimes people will say, oh, well then you did this. I'm like, actually, no, I didn't. Oh. Like I get a hundred. Yeah. I get some weird stuff. Yeah. I can't look at comments. You have moderators though, don't you? Or no? No.

So you just leave all the bad ones up there too? I'm free balling. No, sometimes like I will take stuff off myself. Like if I'm on my Instagram and somebody's writing something that I don't like, I'm very shameless about blocking people. Like I don't care. And I know some people get mad about that and like, oh, you're limiting our speech. Go talk about it somewhere else.

That's not on my page. That doesn't make any sense. Quit whining. Yeah. Like don't do it on art. We are the same. I have Moses moderate all of them. That's the only way I can look at comments. Because I do like to look at them, like the nice ones. Oh, yeah. The nice ones are great. You get so many great feedback ideas and things like that. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like with the podcast and stuff like that, like I just – I'm like I only see positive and I only feel positive now. I'm like, wow, everyone likes me now because he blocks the hate. Yeah. It really changes your mindset. Totally. And maybe that's like why your energy is so good too if you're not looking at the comments so much because that's how I am. Yeah. And I feel like when I stopped looking, I was

like, wow, everyone likes me now. And then I feel like then everyone starts to like you again as opposed to where I'm like, oh, everybody hates me or whatever. I'm super excited for the crumble cookies. But I guess we don't have those. So Easter, are you guys doing anything for Easter? Because they're Easter flavored cookies, right? They're like carrot cake. Yeah, these are Easter flavored cookies. I'm taking my kids on a Disney cruise because their spring break is next week. Oh,

So we're actually traveling on Easter. So I think I'm going to make, like their dad's doing something separate for them for Easter too, probably before they leave. And then I'm going to make like little Easter baskets for the crews. Do you do that? This will be in a couple of weeks. So you can talk about it. You'll be back or whatever. But do you do the full baskets for them and stuff like that? Like what do you put in them? Because this is her first year she'll remember. So I'm like, what do I do? Oh yeah. I do a full basket with like

candy and toys. And I mean, it's so easy just to go to Target and they have so much stuff. And you just fill it all. I always see the TikTok moms doing that. I'm like, God, that looks like so much work, but I should probably start doing it. It's fun. Yeah. And little baskets. And do they do egg hunts still at their age or no? Well, it's just been interesting because the last couple of years, their spring break has been right on Easter and we always want to go somewhere with the kids. So we haven't really been doing that. We used to when they were younger.

And then now you're just like – More baskets. Yeah. I feel like every holiday now has something like Valentine's Day baskets or boo baskets. Boo baskets. Yeah. Which are so fun. I know. I'm ready for Halloween. I was telling him the other day. I was like, God, Halloween and Christmas just become such a fun time of year. Oh, totally. With everything. So you're going on a Disney cruise, which is like the first time? No. I've been on two. This is my third one. It's the second one for the kids. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, we're going on the Disney Wish, which is their new big one. So excited. My goal is to go on every Disney cruise ship. So I'm going to be three down. There's five or yeah, there's five Disney cruise ships right now, but they're adding two more. So there's like seven total. Oh my gosh. What do you think you'll complete first? That or every Disney park? Oh, I've already done every Disney park. Oh, you have? The Hong Kong one too?

one too? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I've been to all of them and I have a jacket that has like all the cities on the back. Oh, okay. So you were- Like I took a commemorative photo. Like I was so excited about it. It was such a big goal for me. Oh my gosh. But you haven't stayed at Cinderella's Castle yet. No.

No, that's like the last – besides doing all the cruise ships, that's like my last Disney bucket list item is they have a little suite inside Cinderella's Castle in Disney World. And I really want to stay there. But it's like not for sale. They save it for like special promotions or like sometimes like a make a wish or something like that. I feel like a Jonas Brothers stayed there too. Yeah, I've heard of it being used for like as a dressing room for grad night. Like I think it was Paramore's dressing room one year. Oh my gosh. I wonder if you could like – I wonder if you got like married there if you could use it.

I don't know. Because you got married in, we talked about this, you got married in Disneyland. Did they give you a room or anything? Yeah, they have the Dream Suite there, which is above Pirates of the Caribbean. So me and the bridesmaids got ready up there. Was it themed? Yes. Oh, I didn't know. It's like a beautiful living room. And then there's two bedrooms. One is Adventureland themed and one is Frontierland themed. And did you stay there on your wedding night?

Mm-mm. Oh, okay. No, we stayed at the Grand Californian in the suite, yeah. Oh, okay. Would they let you? Were they going to let you or not? Like, did they offer it to you? They didn't. Oh, okay. Just to get ready. Just for getting ready, but that was cool. That was cool. God, could you imagine staying overnight at Pirates of the Caribbean? That would be so fun. I feel like that would be kind of weird, kind of creepy, but it'd be kind of fun. Oh, I would love it. And were you, because you wore the blue sash and the white, did they wear anything pirate themed, your bridesmaids? No, there wasn't anything really pirate in the, we were just kind of going for more like old school New Orleans clothes.

Yeah. But after the ceremony, like the bridal party all stayed to take photos, but all the guests were like put on the ride and then they were popped out and they were at the reception because our reception was in New Orleans Square. And then we had like our own showing of Fantasmic and stuff. It was super fun.

It was super fun. Wait, so they got to go on the ride to get to your – oh, my God. Like right after the ceremony. Oh, that is so much fun. Wow. Oh, gosh. That would be like the dream. I didn't know they did that. Do they allow that? Do they do that for everyone or just you guys? I was the first one to do that. Wow. I don't know if they've done it since. Have you been to – is it Tiana's –

Bayou restaurant. Is that her name from the Bricks of the Frog? Yeah, Tiana's Palace. They just opened that. I haven't been to it because they don't do reservations and like the tour guides won't take you there. It's just like quick service and then you can sit down but because it's new the lines are so crazy that I haven't done it yet. I'm surprised the plaids don't do it. No. Oh, I always thought they could get like VIP access to those things. I think maybe they could if you like coordinated ahead of time and they could like

stake out a table or something, but it's never been convenient when we've done it. And they're doing like a log ride too, right? Is that Disney World? Yeah, they're redoing the Splash Mountains at both Disneyland and Disney World because they used to be like Song of the South theme, so they're doing a whole Princess and the Frog theme now. I love it. You should be a Disney ambassador because you just know everything. I'm asking these questions as if you work there. I know. I'm like, I'm working for free. The fact that you know everything. No, it really is amazing. Like I could ask about anything like Area 51 and you're like, actually, you can't go there. It's like...

It's so wild. A typical day in your life. Like now, obviously you're promoting the show, Lethal Eve Blonde, but like, what's like a typical day? Like when you don't have your kids, like, are you, are you reading? Are you on TikTok? Like, cause you just know so much information. Like what are you doing on a typical day? I love to read. I've always been a bookworm since I was a little kid. I don't have as much time for reading as I used to. I wish I had more. Um, I am on TikTok a lot, a lot of times, like if I have a free day where it,

It's not my day with the kids and I'm not recording. I'm usually just doing a lot of editing because just editing for the Patreon and the main podcast and stuff. Working like nonstop, which is like wild. Is there any question you get like sick of answering in all these? Because I see a lot of talk about Playboy, which I mean, obviously everyone's so curious. But do you ever get sick of like people asking a question?

Yeah, I get sick of talking about like what went on in the bedroom because I feel like I've told that story so many times. And I feel like one of the reasons it feels weird other than it's like really personal question is it was very like routine. So once you've talked about it once, you kind of talked about it. Like it was very rare that like anybody would come into the bedroom and do something weird.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I was just talking about this with Bridget today. It's like people always ask if they like want to hear more and I'm like, but if I'm talked about one night, I've talked about them all honestly. It's the same. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. It's like what do they expect? I guess they expect like wild stories. Yeah. I think they want like really crazy down, but. Yeah. Maybe back when he was like younger or something, maybe like in the 70s. I've heard some crazy stuff about 70s. Yeah. There's no like –

I guess in a good way there's nothing like that anymore where you can go to meet like celebrities and like pretty girls and stuff like that. I guess it's kind of dark though. It's kind of like, I don't know, the sex parties in Hollywood. I don't know though. I feel like there's always kind of stuff like that going on. We just don't know. Like the thing that was unique about the Playboy world was it was kind of like in plain sight. Right. But I don't know.

I don't know. I think there's a lot of creeps out there. Yeah. Like there were even back then there were guys who weren't famous, but just rich guys in Hollywood who were, had what they called mini mansions and they would have like girls who come to the Playboy parties, like live at the house and like, you know, have things going on. Like I've heard some horror stories from those places. Right. So Playboy Mansion was like Disneyland compared to that because it's like, like you said, light, you know, like they made it seem fun and-

Yeah, like at least – Yeah, at least there was that other side of it as well. But there's some creepy stuff going on in the shadows. Have you seen the pictures now of like the deconstruction of the Playboy Mansion? Like how it's like looking today? Yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah, what are they just redoing it completely? Yeah, I think he's just doing a total like renovation and like it looks like they're putting in some more underground like basement stuff in the backyard and –

It's crazy. And then where do all the animals go? They're still there from what I understand. So that person is like taking care of them. You should have taken them. You're like a Disney princess. You should have had all the peacocks and stuff come with you. Oh my gosh. Such a responsibility though. Especially like some of those birds, they live to be like 80 years old. Oh my gosh. Like if you have a macaw like that, you have to like will it to somebody because it will outlive you.

That's what my sister has. Like, well, I don't think it's a macaw. She has something like a sun conured. And she's like, yeah, literally live 80 years. Like, that's wild. And she got him when she was a baby. So it was like brand new. Like one. Do you have any, you have, you don't have dogs anymore. I have one dog. He's very old. He has a chronic cough. His name is Louie. He makes an appearance on our podcast sometimes. Like he'll walk into the shot or start coughing in the car or something. Oh.

He's a sweetie. What kind of dog is he? He's a mix. He's a little, I don't know exactly what he is. He looks like he's maybe part Pekingese, part Corgi. And when he comes into the podcast, are you guys just like, oh, that's just part of him? Or you edit him out? For the video portion that people see on Patreon, you'll see him a lot. We don't edit him out. I love it. And we used to do the podcast really janky style. We were sitting on the floor in front of my couch and he would always jump up on the couch and sleep right in between us. So he was kind of like a presence.

The little C. I love it. I feel like when you guys are done, I mean, you have so many seasons you can go through, but it's like, do you think you'll continue to do the podcast just like you guys, like your life? Or do you think you'll? I have no idea. I feel like Patreon is kind of like a practice for that because we just talk about other topics and whatever.

But I mean, I feel like just technology and entertainment changes so much that in like three or four years, I don't even know if podcasts will be the thing. I agree. It might be something else. So I'm just very into like playing it by ear right now. And like going into detail for each episode. You guys really do. You guys like take notes. It becomes like really intricate and stuff, which is so interesting. I think that too. I always think that with podcasts is like, will it be around in a few years? It probably won't be like it was. Remember vlogging was the big thing like

Yeah. And now no one does it. No one cares. Yeah. That is true. I was thinking that with social media too. They're like, what is your daughter going to think? And I'm like, I just feel like it may not even be around the way it is now. Yeah, no one will care. And especially I feel like with the AI revolution that's about to come up, nobody's going to care. Like if I have something, some embarrassing, stupid picture online right now or somebody made a dumb clickbait headline about me on YouTube, like I guarantee you in five years I'm not going to care because it's going to be a different landscape. What do you think about the whole AI thing?

Are you like into it or are you just like scary? Kind of. I think it's going to be a big adventure. Like, I mean, I know there's a lot to be scared of, but humans will always find a way. And...

you know, we're the cockroaches of this planet. You can't take us out. But I think AI is so inspiring because it helps me get more creative. Like I see so many like amazing images, especially like home design. I see so much like AI home design on Instagram that I just love. And I'm saving albums of it because my dream is to like build a house from scratch in Vegas. And I like, obviously you'll still have to hire like the actual designers and the architects and the people

to carry it out but I swear all my inspo is going to be AI based. It looks so real. I always post it and literally people will be like that's not real and I was like it looks so real to me. It really does and it's just going to continue to get more real looking which is going to be insane and I feel like AI has like inspired me to be more creative because sometimes if I'm feeling like kind of stumped with something visually I ask myself well what would AI do and that makes me think of some good shit.

Yeah. It's like really opens up a whole new world of things. I am so excited. Well, Amphrodite is here. I think I am so excited. I can't wait for you guys to meet. I can't believe it all came to fruition. Like he said, he said something in a video and then you text it. And then I was like, oh, I know everybody. Like it's great. It was so aligned. And I can't wait to get a reading. Me too. I can't wait to see everything that's like in person, all of it. The aligned is definitely the theme. I think if you're in alignment, you feel good and great. And I was so happy to catch up with you on the podcast. We see each other so much. It was like,

Oh, it's going to be so – I literally have one note card because I was like, I just know so much. I just have so many questions to ask you. So I was just in that. So all right. Amphrodite is coming up. We have crumble cookies. We have readings with Holly and more. Stay tuned. All right, guys. We're back from our break. As promised, Amphrodite is here, the one and only. My intros are so bad. Sorry. I'm so bad. People are like, you need to say who they are more. YouTube sensation, Twitch sensation, but –

Just social media sensation. The psychic of social media, Ant Ferdite. Hi. Hi, guys. The pop culture psychic is what I usually call it. Oh, pop culture. So there you go. I probably should ask these. I love your laugh. I haven't seen you since 2019. I know. The tour. We met in person at the tour, which was like so cool. I will never forget that because it was your first tour. Yes. Because it was the first stop. Stop. Yeah. Dallas. In Dallas. And.

And you were so kind. You let me come backstage with my friend. She was pregnant at the time. Oh.

And we like took pictures backstage like this is the outfit that's inspired by Britney Spears. I was like – You know. Yeah. And then you perform. You were great. And I will never forget I took a video of you singing. I think it was Shallow Live. And you hit like the high note and I posted it on Twitter and it went viral. Really? Yeah, it did. It did. And there was that guy at the time that did like singing. Like he would like judge people's voices. And you were in his video and it was the video I had recorded. And I was like –

I love that. I was like, I'm a part of history. That's so cool. Went viral because of you. I love you. Everyone loves you. Everyone was so excited for this episode. Holly literally texted me and she's like, we need to have a tarot card reading with Amphrodite. I was like, how do you know Amphrodite? Yeah, because you're my favorite on YouTube right now. And I saw the video where you said, oh, I want to be on the Just Trish podcast. I was like, oh.

Oh my God. Maybe I can get a reading. The manifestation about you speak it and someone sees it. It was so crazy. And then when I saw that you watched it, she just listens to everything. And I like love you too, but she's like, he doesn't get good crumble cookies. We got to get the right crumble cookies. I was

Holly's so busy. Literally a mom has two shows out on TV right now. I was like, how do you see all this stuff? It's kind of amazing. No, I'm honored. Like, I love you. And so it's like surreal that you even watch me. Appreciate me. No, all your stuff is headcanon. Like if you say, oh, Hailey Bieber's doing this. Like, I think she's really doing this. She probably is. I mean, listen, sometimes they reach out to me. So sometimes. Wow. Wait, who reaches out to you? Celebrities a lot. Ah.

Influencers too, but influencers are way meaner to me than celebrities. Interesting. Have Palladiums ever reached out to you? Who? Palladiums. Palladiums. Oh, do you know this? I know what that is. I was like,

Not yet. I don't think I've chosen one yet. No. Interesting. You never had – but okay, not even being funny, but do like ghosts reach out to you or are you not that kind of – Sometimes I see things but not like super in depth. That's something else, right? That's not – what is that called? That's a mediumship. Yeah. Okay. I'm a psychic. Yeah. And what's the difference? So psychics are the ones that kind of use tools for divination and things like that for the future. Mediums are the ones that talk to the dead or spirits. Maybe one day but –

happen yet. Really? You'd want that? Fingers crossed. Really? I would love it. Yeah. I would love it, but... Ooh, okay. I love the braveness. All right, so I feel like we should do a live tarot reading. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Holly says she does this, like, in her life. Like, she has...

Oh, yeah. Like I have a couple psychics I talk to. Like one of them is like my therapist. I check in with her every week. Sometimes I'm just venting to her. Does it make you feel comforted or you just like want to know? Like you want to know your future? Both. Yeah. Well, I don't ask too much future stuff. It's more like how do I navigate this or what is this person thinking or what's the best way to handle this? That's usually what I talk to her about. Okay. Yeah. And do you feel energy? Like do you feel energy right now? Are you saying, okay, I'm getting something or not yet? I feel like –

It's so interesting. I feel everything all the time. Okay. So it's like, it's hard for me to describe the energies that I feel, but it's very calming in here. Okay. You felt good about today. Oh no, the energy is beautiful in here. Okay, good. I felt very nervous about today because it just felt like there was a lot happening and you're coming in from Texas and Holly just came back from like, I was like, I hope this all works. I get so anxious. I'm glad there's no anxious energy.

No, I was not nervous at all. Okay. Yeah, I'm just excited. So you have good energy. If you have the good energy, then I have the good energy. Allie always has. Her energy today is like at a 10. I was just like, wow, your energy is so high today, which is like crazy. I'm there. I'm with you guys. I just get more nervous because I'm like, I hope this works out. I hope everyone's happy. I'm coordinating like a photographer. I had to coordinate different times. It was like Holly, you, a photographer. I'm like, where do we do it? Golf cart. Our battery wasn't working. I'm like, got to recharge the golf cart for today. Anyways, the whole thing. Yeah.

Let's do the territory. Let's go. So we'll do Molly first. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to do something that if people watch me, they're familiar with, which is just current position, which would be like you, like what represents you and then good news coming to you, anything you need to avoid and then any surprises. So.

I like the way you frame it, like anything you need to avoid rather than being like doomsday. I try. I try. I try. I mean, sometimes I have to be blunt. But usually with these, they're more along the lines of just keeping you on track to where you currently are. I do these every month for like my horoscopes, so like the signs and stuff. And then whenever I'm hired at events, I do these too. Yeah.

- I love it, you're available for events? - Sometimes, yeah. - Oh my God. - It depends if the price is right. - I feel like now they gotta give you, you're like a celebrity psychic now. - I'm like, I need a little bit extra 'cause it's almost like an appearance thing. - For sure. Oh, I would say 30K minimum. - Oh, period, okay. You heard it here first, you heard it here first. - I would say a million if someone wants to meet me before. I'm like, I need a million 'cause that's a lot. I don't know how people just do it. - Well, one day when I get married, I will hire you to sing at my wedding. - Okay. - And I will pay you a million dollars. - I will do it for free for you. You're already in. - Thank you.

So your current position or your current energy is the Page of Wands. So the Page of Wands is a really good card because it's about expressing your truth and speaking honestly. It's also one of my creative cards. So any creative endeavor you're going down, anything you've been thinking about, perfect. I mean, this is the card that I pull for a lot of podcasts. So I know you've been doing a lot of that. Yeah. Fantastic. I will also say...

One thing to keep in mind with the Page of Wands is don't be afraid to go there. Don't be afraid to push or to say whatever you need to say. Sometimes the Page of Wands says it's okay to be controversial because...

That's really what gets people to listen. That gets what people be interested. And just don't hold back. Don't second guess yourself. It's honestly really not too much critique there. I just need you to maintain exactly where you are, your momentum. I will say the page of wands tells me that there's probably going to be someone reaching out to you soon that wants you to speak on something that you're going to be like, should I or shouldn't I? Say yes. Okay. It's exciting. We were just talking about that too. Like juicy stuff you're going to talk about on your Patreon and stuff.

I'm telling you, this is like usually it's like an interview or something. So something you say might spark this. But I would expect this within the next two months. Say yes. I love that advice. That's great. Sometimes it's say no, but not today. Not today. Okay. So in our good news position, the Queen of Swords is reversed.

So this is actually a very interesting card to pull in a good news position because the Queen of Swords can sometimes be about pushing people aside or alienating people, sometimes isolating yourself. But when it's in a good news position, it actually means that people that you've pushed away will remain away. So anybody that you've had any tension with or anybody you've had any issue with, they're not going to come back into your space at all.

It's about removing the right people, removing the right energies. It's also about keeping focused. Again, with Queen of Swords, if things don't suit me, I don't need them. I will also say with the Queen of Swords, I do think that sometimes there's this fear of biting off more than we can chew. Don't worry about that. Okay. Because to be honest with you, I think being busy is good for you. I think it keeps you going and I'm not really concerned. Again, no critique there.

That's good. Okay. Now, in our what to avoid position, we are looking at the emperor. So the emperor is a card of like dominance and control. Think of it like this masculine like energy. And I want you to remember that soft is the approach. Okay.

Sometimes when you have a lot going for you, things are going really well. Sometimes you can be like in boss mode. Like I'm in charge. I'm making sure I'm doing everything. And when the emperor is in my what to avoid, it's like make sure you're not too domineering or dominating. Make sure you have that sort of more –

demure sort of soft feminine approach. Yes. I will also say with the Emperor, it does look like there is someone masculine coming in that's going to try and take over soon. Yes. It's not dark. It's more along the lines of I know what I'm talking about. You need to do this, this, and that. Think of it like mansplaining. And so it's someone here that's going to come under the guise of help.

You know better. Okay. So this is probably going to be, I would say, I feel like it's probably like maybe a couple months out. It's just someone that is going to feign like, I can help you. I can do this. I can take you to the next level. Alarm bells are going to ring in your head. Okay. And you're going to know. Okay. Yeah. Because this to me makes me feel like someone that wants to kind of take ownership. Yeah.

And that's why the first part of this is like keep focused and know that you know what you're doing because a lot of times when I have an emperor coming in, it's just someone that kind of wants to put their like, you know, foot on the table, you know, just wants to kind of like knock things around and a lot of false promises. So just keep to what your idea is. Keep to what your plans are and try not to allow too many cooks in the kitchen. Okay. Okay.

Now, in my surprise position, the Nine of Cups is a wish granted card. Okay, so this is a manifestation. So it does mean that one of your big manifestations will come true soon. And the interesting thing about the Nine of Cups is that it's always giant. It's always like a big reveal, right? But when we have a Nine of Cups, it tells me that it's something that you've wanted for a long time. It's not like, oh, I thought about it this year. It's something that I've been craving for a while. It's a little difficult to tell exactly where it's going to be. Let me see if I can figure it out.

It does look like it's... What's the backstabber card? That's what it is. I know that card. No, no, no, no. It's a good thing. So it's like this is someone else's failure is your success. Yes. Yeah. Wow. So that's why... So the moon is like the revealing of a truth or a secret. Okay. It's like an exposing, right?

And then the Page of Pentacles is like someone not reaching expectations, kind of sort of betrayal or backstabbing. So that to me is that someone or something that you had took umbrage with or took issue with and maybe you weren't believed or maybe someone cast doubt on you, you're going to be massively victorious over that. It's a huge reward. Why do I feel like I know what that is? No, same. That's so funny.

That's so weird. I can't wait to come back and like update you guys and tell you exactly what those are. Because I feel like they so resonate and I'm curious to see what it's going to be. And you like have a feeling like right away. Some of it I do have a feeling about, yeah. Like I don't know who the person who's going to come in in the emperor card is going to be, but I'm going to be on watch for it.

Interesting. And they come at the same time as the other one that's saying say yes to, right? You said two months. No, no, no. The first one, this one is obvious. This one is a lot quicker than this one. I think the emperor comes way after this, like a month after this, I feel like. Because I think the emperor comes because of the first one. Oh, somebody trying to like glean off of my success. But to me, I don't think it's going to take more than a couple of months for all this to come out. I doubt it.

Oh my gosh. We have to like record an update. Yeah. No, that's crazy. And when you were pulling all those three cards at the end, like why did you pull so many? So those are my clarification cards. I usually work in threes for like if I'm just pulling regular. Every three cards for me tell a story. So that's why I pulled three extra to get clarification on that one card. Can you ask the cards questions? Yeah. Do you have any questions for the cards? Yeah.

No, specifically. I wasn't ready with any questions. I'm just so excited to see how those pan out. Yeah. I feel like there's so much happening right now in your world and there's so much that you talked about that you're going to do or things that you're going to talk about. And it's kind of like, wow, it's like a different Holly. Yeah, totally. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. I mean, I'm excited. And if you ever need any help, I can help you. Okay. Thank you. Interesting. Whenever you want. Yeah. So like –

if someone just calls you, like I call you up and I'm like, hey, but like, what can you not do? Like, right. Cause I feel like we've talked to psychics before. I'm like, is my baby going to be okay? Like, well, we can't tell you like medical stuff. Right. Yeah. Health is a big no, no. I wouldn't even know how to do that to be honest. Right. I'm like, I'm not a doctor. Right. So like, even if I could maybe figure something out, I wouldn't even know how to describe it to you. So in the cards, you never see anything about health or anything. No, no. Love, money. Love. Love is probably the number one thing people ask me about. Yeah.

Yeah. Can you tell if, um, Oh, love really? Yeah. That's like the number one thing. I mean, everyone wants to know if their ex is coming back. The answer is no, no, not always, but I would say like 90% of the people that, that,

ask me for something it's usually about like love and ex sometimes it's petty though sometimes it's like oh like how do I get back on my ex or is my ex suffering and I'm like probably okay get a little voodoo doll that's a very common one wait really I think you don't know what it is I love my favorite type of reading to do is for an ex but not in the way that they think

I like to give them closure on like what happened. Like why did it not work out or what went wrong or whatever. If someone goes to them, like I can tell them what I believe is the reason. Oh, interesting. That's so helpful for mental health, I feel. Yeah, the closure of it all. Most of the time it's not the person. It's the one that goes to you. They have their own issues. It's usually nothing you did. Oh, okay.

Can you see in the cards if Holly and I are gonna be on the traders? - Yeah, I can do that. - Really? - Yeah. - Or any projects together. I feel like we talk about so many things.

I would love to do something with you. Let's say you are one of the traders. What if one of you is the trader? Oh, for sure that will happen, I think. We just have to roll with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like Holly would be a trader. I think you would be a really good trader. Oh, I would be the best trader, but I feel like people would- Nobody would have, no, nobody would have any idea. Really? Do you watch it? I've seen it, yeah. Yeah. God, I would love, we want to go on together. It'd be so fun. I think it would be iconic. Yeah.

Maybe we could ask questions about it. I love the host. Do you know Alan Cumming? Do you know? Have you met him personally? You never met him? But you know what I heard that he did that's really cool is he rented out one of the water parks at Disney World and had like a whole party of his own at night. How did he have that money? I guess he works a lot. He's been in like every movie. I just love him. I want to wear a kilt. I love a laugh. No, I do think there's something. There's a joint reading.

love it. No. So it's interesting. So the card between the two of you is the two of cups, which is about being together, working together. We think of the two of cups like a soulmate card. So it's like two people that are able to really do something magical together. So actually is indicative of you guys doing something together. What's interesting here though, is the five of cups reverse and high priestess, which tells me issues with timing. So you might get an opportunity, but you might not be able to say yes to it because of

and things like that. Oh, no. But also sometimes this means that maybe you were thought of for something but other people were put in place. So think of it like an alternate. So that's a good thing though. Why? Because that means that when another season comes around of a show or another thing comes around for the opportunity, you're in it. That basically means you're on hold. Oh, God. I don't want to be on hold. I want to be a priority. Maybe he's picking up on the fact that I was asked to do it and turned it down that one time because I didn't know what it was.

know what it was. Oh, right. Were you really? Yeah. I was asked to do the first season, but I didn't know what it was. I just thought they were asking me because they thought I was a traitor because I wrote a book about my ex-boyfriend. And I thought, oh, I'm not falling for that. Maybe that's the energy. We're hoping that.

or the timing works for us. That would explain why they have like you as a person of interest. Yeah, that would explain. A person of interest. That's so scary. That's a good thing. No, that's a good thing. I feel like isn't that when someone dies there's like a person of interest? Well, I guess yeah. Well, no, because when I say person of interest I think like, you know, someone that they're interested in having. Because like, okay, let me explain. Everything I, I don't have an inner dialogue. I don't hear anything in my head. Okay. I only see pictures. So when I'm describing things sometimes I don't describe it right because I'm describing a picture. So what I see in my head is literally like

a bunch of like headshots and people like moving pictures of people around saying like, oh, this is who I want. And then you two are down here. So that's like you were here but they moved you down here. So that means that there is an interest in you but they haven't found the right fit. We're not at the top of the list. Well, no, I think it's just about chemistry and finding the right fit. I don't think it's a priority thing. It's not like, oh, these people are better. It's, oh, we want to save them for something good. The way you're framing it is very traitorous because they have their headshots on a wall. Maybe you're seeing me and Holly down here at the bottom

That's what I'm thinking because they always have them placed out. Honestly, it's possible. But...

I feel like there's – I really do feel like there's something different because the pager swords and the tower, I'm not saying that it's not possible that traitors could happen because it's definitely possible for sure, especially with this. But there's something else that I see the two of you doing. I can't really figure out what it is, but I see you guys being pulled in for something else. Peep show. Holly's World Season 3. Yeah. No, because the moon is upright and the two pentacles, I think it's something new or something different.

Oh, interesting. And the Hierophant is reversed too, which tells me I don't know if it's like something that's necessarily in existence yet either. Because like that's like a commitment and when it's reversed, it's like a new commitment that hasn't been made. Maybe they'll build something around the two of you.

you that would be the best yeah because i feel like you have so much going on if you're staff like a new venture to who we are and yeah schedules oh my god you guys can be like the new uh paris and nicole oh my god you are a psychic we were just talking about that yeah like simple life too you know yeah listen if they're not interested you guys should produce it yourself that's true that would be everything i'd watch or just hannah has to be in it too yeah that's true yeah well when we were

Cracker Barrel, you had said it. And then Tiana said it. I was like, oh my God, it's like aligned. The alignment is the theme of this episode today because we're all aligned right here, right now. Yes.

What about, can you do one about us three or no? Is that too much? Too many? You and Tana? You, me and Polly. Oh, oh. Or is that like nothing? Like, are we going to enjoy the crumble cookies? Are we going to have a good photo shoot? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, or does it have to be specific? Like, will we stay in touch? Will you ever turn on me? Will you ever do a badge? Because you've always been so cool to me in your tarot readings. Listen, I would never turn on you. Let me explain something to you. Let me explain something to you. I have, you're the reason I got into content creation. No.

- Oh, very, very, aw. - Literally, you were the only person I watched. Any YouTuber I found out was because you collabed with them. - No way. - But I've been watching you since you were making like 30 second videos on YouTube in the very beginning. - Oh my gosh. - Like, you were my favorite. So like for me,

No. And also, every time, every time, like, you go through something on YouTube, everyone's always like, why do you like her? And I'm like, I don't know. I've always liked her. And then they love you again. And then they're like, oh, yeah, you love her. And I'm like. I've been there. No, you overthrew me through the worst. Every freaking time. And I'm like, you guys hate me when I love her. And then you love me when I love her. Make up your mind. They can't. Yeah. And I see it the same way about you. Oh.

Never in a million years. Well, she doesn't get canceled. Holly is just the unproblematic queen. You know what, though? I feel like when you come from the Playboy world, you kind of arrive in the industry pre-canceled. Like everybody's like, oh, I don't know if I want it. So then you just have to like bust out of it. That's interesting. That is probably true. They look at you like some type of way. You really have busted out from it, too. Like it is crazy how now everyone just like you became such like a girl's girl where before like the view would always like look at you guys as like, oh, look at these like girls just like around. Yeah. It's so interesting. I don't like that.

- I don't either. I feel like back then the media was so hard on women, especially sexual women, you know what I mean? It was just like, or what they seemed as sexual. And now it's iconic, Playboy is iconic and everything. - Meanwhile, me as a gay boy standing all over

that. Did you? Oh my God. Really? Yeah. That's so interesting. I wanted to be a playgirl so bad. I was like, I want to be a centerfold. Oh my God. Never in a million years happened. Well, I feel like now they do, right? Bretman Rock was like on it and stuff like that. I feel it's definitely. His cover was so good. So good. Have you seen Bretman Rock is like trying to be Hey Hey in a live action Moana? Oh my God. That he makes these audition videos. This is the cutest thing.

I haven't seen the audition ones. He was doing it a while back when they first announced there was going to be a live action Moana. He was like making these pitch videos like I need to be hey hey. That would be so iconic. Yeah. For sure. That's a great manifestation for him. Oh my. What's your. Can you say your ultimate manifestation or no. Do you have one in your head when it came to mind. I mean this

is kind of basic I say it all the time like I just really want to like build a house from scratch in Vegas like that's exciting career wise I don't know I don't even know if I've like thought of what I want like my biggest thing to be like I just kind of want to model and that's like delusional but

Why? Why is that delusional? You're literally a model. I just want to be paid a lot of money to be in like some kind of campaign. Oh, that would be so good actually. You should rephrase that. Instead of I want to be, I will be. I will be. Current tense. Pay a ton of money to be in this huge campaign. I could see it though for sure because you do photograph. Like even Tana and I remember just looking at you and being like, gosh, you photograph so good. Like you just know what to do in front of a camera. I also could see you in a live action Disney movie. That would be so cool.

That would be so fun. That would be like, you know what I mean? Oh my God. Like who? I don't know. Like what roles are out there? I know they're doing a live action Tangled. I'm like, I'd love to be, I'm not as skinny, but I'd love to be Mother Gothel because she's like so beautiful. Oh my God. You know, but. Put it out there. I don't think that's in my car. I don't think Disney's going to work with me, but they would work with you because you've been on Dancing with the Stars. No, I think they have like a strict no porn policy. You need to be on Dancing with the Stars though.

I'm manifesting that. I will be on Dancing with the Stars. Wait, oh my God. You think? Or Masked Singer, I want to be on. Everyone thinks I'm on Masked Singer right now. It's Vanessa Hudgens, but they always think it's me. It's like a fish. There's like a fish on there now. And they're like, it's Trisha. I was like, I love that. I think you would kill Dancing with the Stars.

I would love to. The costumes are so fun. Every week you get to design like a new costume. Really? You get to be a part of it? Like to design it? Yeah, yeah. Like I was called in last minute because I took over somebody who was injured but like my dance partner had already come up with some of the designs that you go meet with the costume designer and they come up with something and they make it that week and it's just like the coolest thing. Ooh, that's interesting. Maybe he's picking up on that when he said the alternative. It's so weird. I love that you're – because honestly –

Honestly, I'm down. If I was as an alternate, if they're like, we don't, someone couldn't make it last minute, I'd be down. You're like traitors. At first I was like, I'm like, I don't want to be like an alternate. But then I was like, I guess I would take it. I mean, I've heard that some of the drag race winners of the show were alternates. Really? Where they call them in last minute? Yeah. Have you done drag race readings? A few. A few.

It's hard because there's not much to do because everyone already knows like behind the scenes who's won already. Like they can't keep spoilers. Oh, I see. Yeah. So it's like there's not much I can do. What's your ultimate manifestation? I will have my own TV show one day. I will have. Mark my words. Yeah. Like late at night. Remember when they used to do those? Do you know like Walter Mercado? And he would have these. He'd have a cloak. Do you know him?

yeah he has these like crazy cloaks and he'd be like he's like i don't know he might be hispanic or something and it was just like so he'd make you feel so good about your sign he's like this is your year you're gonna make money and blah blah that could totally be you like late at night i think i could do a lot of things like i think i'm a great psychic but if they're not interested in psychic i mean i think i'm just a great person like i think i'm funny as hell what would you do if you crazy i don't know put me on like a

Real Housewife type of show. Let me interview people on the street. I could do a dating show. My dating life's a disaster. There's so many things. I feel like...

If you have an opportunity, I will take it and run with it. You're going to say yes to everything. Yeah. Do you ever do tarot readings on yourself? Sometimes, yeah. I have a couple. Actually, there's a video I did on my birthday in June where I talked about being on a podcast. No way. How fun. Oh, my gosh. And now we're here. But you've been on other podcasts since? Not like this, no. Really? Yeah, this is my first big one. Oh, my gosh.

Oh my God. Yeah, I'm honored. Thank you. I'm honored that you think that's a big one. I appreciate it. It's literally in my house. When you came here, we were like, is this just your house? Like literally in our basement. No, this is my Oscars. I'm dead serious. Like I like, I was thinking about what to wear forever. Like I'm just so. This is a great outfit. I like it. All right. What other questions should we ask the cards? Maybe like, okay. Yeah. Let's do a little. Okay. Let's do it. Cause you did one on me and Moses, right? A long time ago. Yeah. Cause Moses said it and he's like, wait, I think. And I was like,

How do you remember that? I was like, that's because I just, I haven't seen all of them, but I was like, that's amazing. I think it was around the time when I was getting canceled and I was scared to watch anything because I was just like, you know. - Yeah. Well, I haven't done one on you in a long time because you're good. - Thanks. You're like, she'll be fine. - Yeah, no. - I feel that way too. I feel like everything's good. I hope these cards come out good.

You're so transparent too. It would be hard to do like a reading. I know, right? This is what she's hiding. Literally nothing. Right. All you have to do is like literally watch my videos. But see, now I feel like I don't share as much. I'm like learning to share less. So it's more tricky. Oh, shit. Okay. Is there something good? Yeah. Do you know the card? There's something really good. Okay. So –

So you showed up as the Five of Cups reverse, which is like predicting the worst before we began. That's the worrying card. Okay. So you need to be a little bit more conscious of that because I do think when it comes to manifesting, sometimes you're like cutting yourself off by doing that. I also think the Five of Cups says that there's something that you feel like, oh, I can't do, I can't have, that you can. And it's related to this card. So the Wheel of Fortune is reversed. That's in my good news position. Now, the Wheel of Fortune is like a huge opportunity, a huge risk.

And when it's reversed, it means it didn't pay off or it didn't happen. So there's a missed opportunity that's coming back for you. And it's a big one. So that's why I'm like this is actually a really good thing, which is why we don't want to kind of like kill our manifestations. Because there's a huge opportunity. Now, Wheel of Fortune is sometimes – it could be TV. It could be something like that. But it's just a giant project. And it's one that you've wanted for a very long time. Wow.

And it didn't happen. It didn't manifest. And it's coming back around to happen. Okay. So we – don't worry. I think that this might be a little bit of a ways out. Like I feel like maybe like six months-ish. Okay. That's not bad. Yeah. But I do think it's this year. Do you think I could be hosting Wheel of Fortune? I think like Vanna White's retiring. I literally was like –

Maybe. Yeah. Or I can even pass a test. That would be so cool. That actually could be cool. That would be really good. That was my first thought. I was real fortunate because I love First Love. I've always tried to apply to be on that show. And I was like, actually, I could probably host it or something. I'm surprised you haven't been on that show. I've auditioned. It's very hard to get on it. I think it's kind of like luck of the draw because I submit my tape and it's like, will someone see it? We don't know. You know what I mean? Got it. It's very hard. I would love to. They have to know who you are. You would think, right? They would have to.

I assume no one knows, which in this case is probably true. I get that. I'll host it. But yeah, so it's a really big opportunity. And it's one that I feel like people might not expect.

Okay. I know. It's like expect the unexpected. Yeah. It's going to be a big deal. I do think it's going to be a big undertaking too. It's going to take a lot of your time. Okay. I'm ready for it. I'm ready. I'm ready for that. Now, in my what to avoid positions, the Six of Cups is reverse. Just don't worry about anything from the past. Like the Six of Cups is the past and when it's reverse, sometimes that's about people worrying about how things used to be or issues I've had in the past or things like that. And what that tells me is that you've cleaned the slate and you move forward.

So any sort of issue you've had, especially with like yourself and where you're going, gone. Okay. Done. Any problems, any stress, any drama, nothing. It's all done. The Six of Cups is like I'm ready for new. I'm embracing new. The only issue you would have is if you let anything from the past get back into your headspace. And I think that's a great card for me. That's like –

Something I want to see in a void position is like keeping my past where it was and moving forward. I love that. Yeah. And I also think Six of Cups sometimes is like a children card. And sometimes I think –

you need to be careful of getting like two in your head of like, I'm a mom, I'm not cool or I'm a this, whatever. Don't do that. Don't do that. Right, I do do that. Yeah, because the six of cups when it's reversed, especially when it comes to children, it's like you'll always be cool. Right. You'll always be interesting. And try not to like get in that head space because sometimes like you can kind of cut yourself off that way. I didn't need to hear that. Thank you. Because especially again, because we look at the six of cups when it's upright as like children and happiness and stuff. And when it's reversed, it's like,

that pull between like how do I make sure I'm mom and also Trisha, Payton, you know what I mean? And I want you to understand you're fine. Okay. Yeah, you don't really need to change anything and you don't have to worry about like people like switching up or feeling like, oh, whatever. Yeah, being boring now that I'm a mom.

Yeah, no. That struggle's real. People are very interested. Okay. We love that. Very interested. And you're not going to have to be patient hold into like, you know. Mommy vlogger. Yeah, no, not at all. I don't think that's my calling. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I mean, if you wanted it to be, it could be, but I don't see that for you. No, I don't think so. I think maybe I thought maybe, maybe I'll be a mom vlogger. I don't think it's for me. No, I think people just love you. Thank you. You know what I mean? For you. And I think anything you do that is like authentically yourself, they're going to be drawn to. Oh my God, thank you. And then, you know, if the kids show up, they show up. Yeah, they're there.

It's like the Kardashians with their little Northwest. Yeah, it's true. No, it's true. Okay. So last card here is the surprises in the Six of Wands reverse. You know what's interesting here? The Six of Wands is like a confidence card. And I think your confidence is going to come from somewhere new soon.

So this actually is really beautiful to me and I get like a little excited for you because the Six of Wands tells me that you're going to be taken super serious with something soon. Oh my gosh. Like sometimes it can be a project or a thing but it's like I see someone coming in. Let me explain to you what I'm seeing in my head because I have to explain the visual for you to understand it. So I see someone coming in with like – they have like glasses and they're very smart. It's like representing someone very smart because it's like a metaphor in my head. Mm-hmm.

And they're holding a book, which means like they're taken very serious. They're very intelligent and they take you serious. And I know sometimes you feel like, oh, like, you know, people just like laugh or just have fun or whatever. But someone is taking you serious for something and they're interested in you. Like I think of like the Six of Wands as someone that wants to do a documentary on you or like interview you and really get to the core of who you are. And it's something very serious. And it's something that will be like,

It's something that other people can draw inspiration from and can really like resonate with. So I think with the six of wands, your confidence is going to come from something where you're taken serious for a change. Oh my gosh. That would be the most shocking thing. And I think your voice is going to be impactful. Wow. Oh my gosh. I know. I think that should start to manifest probably sometime later this year. Wow.

Maybe Elon Musk or something will ask me. It's like that edit will come true. Yes. We're going to be talking about space. Have you seen that? Yeah, I think it is. You know what you should do? What? A TED Talk. Oh my God, we just talked about that too. That would be amazing. Oh my God. Wow, you are such a psychic. This is crazy. We just talked about that. Really? Okay, I'm down. How do I get on it? I have no idea. Manifest. Okay, Manifest. They're watching. You never know. That's true. You never know. I'm sure the TED Talks people watch. Ted himself is watching. That's so crazy.

Oh my gosh. I love that. Well, those are all good. I love that. So it's all good. Yeah. We just signed with an agency. So that'll be good. Oh my God. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. We're with CAA now. It's bougie. I feel like it manifested because everyone who came on the podcast was like, I'm with CAA. And I was like, how the heck do you get? I don't know. And then they're like, well, they're not with us or whatever. I was like, okay. So yeah. So, you know, never had an agent before. So we'll see. That's why I'm like trying to push the traders. Yeah. I was like,

Let me try to do this. That is so cool. I'm so excited. Thank you for that. Oh my gosh. Okay. So we should also try these crumble cookies. I mean, we're going to get back to the cards, but I want to try it while you're here because Holly brought three boxes. So I had to make sure they were all like perfect. The stampers. Cause I don't know if you have those. You have to keep the stamper that like cuts them into four pieces.

- Oh yeah. - In your kitchen. - I didn't even know that. - So what is the deal with crumble with you? You can't get a good crock cookie? - Dude, they hate me. - What happened? - Do you get them delivered or do you go to the store? - Oh no, I'm getting them delivered. I'm not going anywhere. - No, that's the problem. - I don't care. I have a whole thing that I do every Monday, like a whole tradition where I order them, I get ready, I get out the shower, they're there.

Every Monday? Yeah. I love that for you. Because they change the lineup every Monday. Right. And so I – okay. So on TikTok, I just like do whatever I want. Like I don't really take it super serious. Are you live on TikTok? Because she says she sees you on TikTok. Sometimes I'm on TikTok live, but I like upload like videos and stuff. So – I don't follow you on – I never see you on there. I got to find you. Yeah. So –

I just do random stuff. Some of that is like food videos. So it's just like me eating. So I was like, someone's like, oh, you should try crumble cookie. I was like, okay, I'll try crumble cookie. And then I tried crumble cookie and like, I was like just telling them like things I liked about it and things I didn't, but they're like, you're so negative. And it's just like thousands of hate comments. Thanks, Moses.

And like the past couple of videos I've done, I've gotten like 2 million views and it's just me. Wait, what? Yeah, it's just me eating crumble cookies. Oh. It's just like a thousand people hating on me. Being like, you're disgusting. You're horrible. You're awful. Wait. And I'm just like. On TikTok? We're just saying how nice TikTok is. That's so weird. No, not my comment section. It's just a bunch of people that like Karen's just yelling at me being like, oh my God, my favorite crumble cookie you said is disgusting. Oh my God. There's so many. Pushing your numbers.

though. Yeah, they are. But it's like super, no, it's like super aggressive for like no reason. And I'm like, it's not that deep. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's not that deep. Yeah. Wait, did you try them already this week then? I did, but mine were bad. Okay. Yeah, this week? I'm like all wrecked. No, we haven't seen that. The crumble I go to is like notorious for being bad. Well, don't go psychic over here and change it up. So that's why I'm here so I can try them and they're not. Fresh. Yes. Okay. Okay. These look, okay. Mine look a little messy.

Oh, no, yours is good. Mine are fine. Honestly, me just complaining. These are...

I've had a weird week and I've been complaining so much. I'm not complaining. They're beautiful. No, they look good. They look good. Ooh, there's like, okay, they're Easter. Oh my God, they smell so good. They really do smell really good. I love the lemon flavors. Lemon. Did you try? Do you want a cutter? You want one of the cutters? Oh no, I'm fine. I'll just go ahead. Are you sure? But you guys need to have those for your like own kitchens and stuff. Yeah, we don't have this one. Oh my God. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, thank you so much. It's funny because I went to go order these and there's like a miscellaneous section where you can buy the cutters, but they also sell like empty boxes. Like if you just want the crumble box. Like an empty crumble box? Yeah.

- Oh, maybe to like bling out or something. You know what I mean? Like the Domino's boxes. - You would think to bling it out. - Right? 'Cause why else? Okay, what's this one? Which one do you think is like a lemon bar? - Wait, which one is that? This one? - It's the powder sugary one. To me it just looks like a sugar. Ooh, I like lemon. Do you like lemon in your desserts? - Okay, this is not cutting. - I know, mine wasn't really either. I think you had to like push hard, but. - Well, it's probably the softer ones are probably easier. I'm not a huge fan of lemon, so. - I love lemon. - We'll try it. - This tastes like a lemon bar.

It's like a mukbang show today. Okay, the consistency of this cookie is a lot better than the ones I'm used to. It's fluffy. Wait, what do you mean? Isn't it like that where you're from? No. Well, because every store is different. And the one I'm at just does not make them right. Maybe they should close down. That's so funny.

Maybe you should do a tarot reading for them. You tell the crumble CEO he comes there directly. Well, people make that joke all the time. Like, we should send the CEO to your store. Oh. I'm like, is it that deep? Maybe. Undercover boss. This is really good. Yeah. I don't even like lemon, but this is actually really good. Tastes homemade. No, it does. It's like perfectly like crumbly. Oh my God.

I love that you go every week and it's bad every week. Like, why do you go to that one? Well, when I do find a good one, it's always, like, exciting. Right. Like, I tried this one this week, the brownie one, and I really liked it. So it's, like, really exciting. And it was gooey? Yeah, this one is. I missed their Rice Krispie one. They haven't had it since this time last year, I think. They haven't had the Rice Krispie one in so long. How was the Olivia Rodrigo cookie? Oh!

I did not like that one. Wait, you tried it? How did you get it? It only shows up when she's in town on tour. Yes. Really? Yeah. In that city? So if she's in Hollywood, will it come here to where we're at? Yeah. When she was in California, I think it already happened, I'm pretty sure. Oh, it did? Yeah. You didn't like it? It was just a sugar cookie with tons of icing. It was just a sugar overload. It looked like there was jelly or something in it though, right? Was there purple something or no? Yeah, it had a little bit of jelly at the top.

But it was like mostly sugar. Did you do a review on that? I did. Wow, this actually tastes like a brownie. Yes. Wait, is that the one we're trying? Okay, I'm going to try that one. Okay, wait. I rated this a 10. And this is even better than the one I rated. Wow. So good. So the LA crumble is superior to the Texas crumble. It is. What area? You don't have to say exactly. Are you in Austin, Dallas? Okay. Oh, probably lives over there.

- Hmm, interesting. - I love Austin. It's so nice. - Everyone loves Austin. My family just moved over there too and they're like obsessed with it. - Well next time you're in town, hit me up. - Have you ever been to Guero's?

Where's that? I don't know. It's like downtown Austin. It's where Quentin Tarantino filmed Grindhouse. Have you ever seen Grindhouse? I have, yes. They filmed it and they went to Guero's. Kurt Russell's there. Okay. And it's the one where he like tracks down those girls and kills them with his car and they go outside Guero's. And there's like an actual one, but I haven't been. It's like they actually have the restaurant there. Anyways, I'm glad you didn't know that. I'm like literally clueless. Awesome time before you're born. What year were you born? No, I'm born in 91. I'm not that old. I mean that young. You were born in 91? Yeah, I'm 32.

I know. People think I'm like 16. Oh my God. That's crazy. Because that movie came out in 2007. It was filmed in 2006. So like a lot of people were like not even born on TikTok yet. Like it's crazy to me when people are like, I was born in 2006. Yeah, me too. And I was just like, that's – people born like 2006. I was like, wow, that's crazy. They're like becoming adults this year.

When I was 27, I went to a hairdresser and I got a child's discount because she thought I was 16. What? Literally. I'll never forget. I was sitting in the chair and she's like talking to the other girl. She's like, don't talk about sex. There's a kid here. And I looked around. I was the only one in the chair. 26, 27 years old. And I go in to pay and they're like, oh, we gave you the discount, the child discount. No way. Swear to God. Really? Thank you. Don't talk about sex. There's a kid here. It was so embarrassing but also kind of like iconic. Yeah. Totally. Totally.

- I wonder if there's anything to it. - Well, I can tell you, I do have some trauma with it because I've always looked really young. So like men can be really creepy. - Ew, the people you attract. I always thought that was people who look young. - Yes. I've had my worst date experience. I went on a date with a guy and one of the first few things he said is, "Of course I like you. You're every guy's fantasy. You look barely legal."

Ew. Oh my God. Men are so disgusting. I feel like we're all attracted to men here and they're just like the worst though. It's like, why are we attracted to them? It's like so weird. I wish I wasn't. Same. I'm like, oh, I wish I was a lesbian. No, but same. Same, same, same. It just like makes it so much easier and it's just like guys are kind of the worst. They're so creepy and so weird. I have...

the worst dating experiences ever. I think dating as a psychic is so difficult. It's just... What? Because you're picking up on energy? Do you do readings for them? Hell no. Sometimes they want me to and I'm like, uh, no. I would bring the cards on the date with you. That for free? No, I'm not working for free. I love that about you. You're like, no, absolutely not for free. Well, I mean, I think a lot of times like people like befriend me just to like get readings and stuff. Really? Yeah, a lot. So like if a guy did that, I'd be like, ick.

Oh, interesting. But most guys hate what I do. They think it's dumb and stupid and don't believe in it. Yeah, that's a lot of men out there. Even gay men, a lot of them don't really believe in what I do. Yeah, gay men and straight men are really not that different, I've learned. No. Their bald is kind of toxic and stuff like that. I put out gay men for like a year after I gave birth because they didn't understand either. I was just like, I don't want to be around you either right now because you just don't understand a woman. You know what I mean? No, I get that. But you're different. You're the exception. There's like certain...

I have this – I talk about this all the time. I feel like I'm a straight woman in a gay man's body. Yeah. That's the vibe. Because I feel like I have a straight woman's brain. Yeah. And sometimes I feel like that's why I'm alienated from like gay people because I'm just like – I feel like I don't think like you. I don't know. I think that's real. No, I think that's so real. I've heard that. Not from a lot but there's a lot of like guys that feel that way. They're like, I don't feel like a gay man. Like I don't resonate with them and I see that for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

um easter egg did you try that one yes it's the sugar cookie so good mine's even still kind of like chilled a little bit is it oh the cold ones are always interesting to me do you do spell work holly not anything like it's good crazy but these ones are my favorite sorry no no they're so good i love the sugar ones too like you do like you write them a bay leaf or something for like manifestation okay but no like spells you don't cast them

I like to write spells down in my spell book. That's what I do. Do you? Like, do you rhyme them or just write them? I rhyme them. Me too. Yes. I love a good spell book and just like putting it out there into the world. You're a witch. Yeah, I think so. Do you think everyone has that capability in them? Like, everyone does. I think manifestation is very similar to like prayer. It's like you're saying something, you're speaking it, there's a ritual involved. And spell work to me is manifestation. So like, again, I always say talk in current tense. I am, I have.

But also if you're going to make a spell, make it rhyme. Yeah. And, you know, for me I think some of the spells that I do quite often are like return to center, returning energy back to where it belongs. Or truth spells are something I do a lot. I love those. Yeah. A lot. I do the bounce back thing. Do you? Yeah. Like send energy back. I think that's so important. I feel like it so works. I used to do that too. I used to like make a circle around myself and like repel any energy because I used to get a lot of evil eye spells.

So we have like humsos everywhere and like evil eyes. So it like bounces back. So like all that energy can go right back to them. I think that's like – I think it works. What is this one? This looks like a strawberry pretzel I think. Ew. It's strawberry pretzel pie. Apparently it's like a dish that a lot of people like. I've never heard of it. At Easter time? I don't know what it is, but I've never heard of it before. It doesn't even look like cream. The one I had was not good at all. This one is wild. Are you going to try it? It looks – I'm scared of it. I'm going to try it. I'm not like a big sweet savory person, but –

Oh, God. I don't mind it. It's got a peanut butter and jelly vibe a little bit. I love a pretzel in anything. This is so different than the one I have. That's crazy that it's so inconsistent. It's like completely different. It tastes like different ingredients. What? This right here, this topping is very different than what I had. It's like fluffier. The topping is wild. It doesn't look like icing. It looks like cream cheese or something. And even the jelly is like sweeter, fresher. Is that what's on it? Jelly? Mm-hmm.

That one's wild. Do you get these? Do you get them every week or no? Not every week because...

Sometimes I'm doing something else on my cheat day. But I look ahead. There's an account on TikTok called Crumble Cookie Spoilers. And it'll tell you ahead of time what's coming out that week. I didn't even know that. Oh, my God. It's the psychic of cookies. He's like, next week we're coming out. In the bio, they're like not affiliated with Crumble Cookie. But it's somebody who works there because they know. And it's legit. Like every. Yeah. What's next week? Can you spoil it? I'd have to find my phone. But I don't think I'm getting a service. Oh, hey. So it came up. I heard it went SOS.

I know. We need to get you on the Wi-Fi. We need to try the carrot cake. Okay. Are you a carrot cake person? I like it. It's not my favorite, but I do like it. I like carrot cake, but this cookie does not look it. Like, I love carrot cake, and I don't think it looks good. Yeah, it's like actually like a cake.

Yeah. It's like a big old – When I had this, it was falling apart as soon as I grabbed it and everyone in the comments was like, that's how it's supposed to be. This is how it's supposed to be. Why does everyone hate you on TikTok? I don't know. I'm so mad at you for cookies. You know what's so funny? Everyone's hated me my whole life. Literally. Literally. I had no friends growing up and like everyone has always just hated me. Relatable. I went with it. Me too. And just started making content because I was like, well, everyone hates me anyways. What do I have to lose? Oh my gosh.

So I'm more shocked when someone likes me. So like my trauma is like, oh, when are you going to stop liking me? Because everyone always did. Well, maybe you need to stop that. Maybe you need to manifest everyone likes you. That's what I've been trying to do. I've been doing that too. I was telling Holly literally right before we came. I was like, I have him block all the bad comments. I'm like, wow, everyone really likes me right now. And I feel it. You know what I mean? Like everyone loves me at the moment. So. That's good. You know, change it up. Okay. I'm going to just take a giant breath. Mm-hmm.

I'm not usually a fan of carrot cake, but I like this because it's cinnamony and it doesn't have nuts and it doesn't have like stringy carrot. It's very like well blended. You don't like the stringy? I hate it when people have like carrot strings in the carrot cake because I'm not expecting the texture and then it makes me go bleh. I kind of live here. No, I agree with that. This is really nice and very good. That one might be the best because it's nice and moist. Yeah. Wow. I'm a carrot cake person.

A lot of people don't like it. People are very against carrot cake. Really? You know what? Tiana likes it too. I saw her post on her story that my roommate made me carrot cake cupcakes with carrot cake. Oh my God. She should be here to enjoy this crumble. Have you met Tiana? No. Have you done a reading on her online? I've done a reading on her a long time ago. And it's so funny. When I first like blew up, she had DM'd me and she's my favorite DM I ever got because it just says, hey. Ha ha.

Why do people DM that? I was like, well, say what you want to say because I need to know more. It was so funny. I'll never forget. It was on Twitter and it just says, hey, and I responded and she never responded. I love that. I love it. It's iconic. It's the most like Tana thing ever. Yeah. It's just like, hey, not there. I wonder what she wanted. Do you ever wonder? Ask your cards. I mean, it's whatever. So many years ago. But I mean, I don't know. I love her. So I love...

That whole – every like thing she touches I feel like is like genius. Yeah, she is still like that. I always tell her that. I'm like you're really – she really is like the it girl where she's like on everyone's podcast and they get like 10 million views with her. She's just like – I love Brooke too. So funny. Yeah, she's amazing. Did you go to their canceled? I wanted to but by the time I realized it was in Austin, it was sold out. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. I wanted you to do. They had a lot. You should do a reading on that. They had a lot of drama on that tour. I did do a reading on Brooke. Oh, you did? With the Matt Rife stuff. Oh. I did. God, I love that you're so on it. I try to be. Yeah. It's hard. You hit the topics when they're happening. Yeah. You're like, oh, I did Nickelodeon. I was like, wow, it's so good. But that's why I was telling Holly too. She knows she's every, like on top of all the influence. I'm like, how do you know all these people? Like, it's amazing. Because there's just so much.

a world out there i think you do a good job though i feel like now with the podcast i have to like i literally take like two hours a day to go on tiktok and i like tell them it's part of my job i'm like okay i need to go upstairs for two hours and watch it otherwise i just don't know when i'm like when we were in vegas i wasn't on tiktok at all so that week i just had no idea what was happening i was like i don't know what's happening in the world but yeah i think for me pop culture has always been like an obsession so yeah it's easy for me because it's like a hobby yeah i was like that too were you like that growing up were you obsessed with like

Celebrity. You're in Alaska. I always had like special interest things. Like I was really, really into Madonna. Then I was really, really into Marilyn Monroe. Like it would kind of be focused on certain things. Like hyper fixating. Yeah. But not like overall the celebrity world. No. Even when you were at Playboy, you weren't like, oh my God, I love all these celebrities here. No, because like obviously I was enamored with celebrities enough to be like into half. But then after I got in that world, I just saw like there were so many girls there who would just like slobber over any celebrity and just like –

want to sleep with like any celebrity no matter who it was just so extreme the other way that I kind of got grossed out out on it yeah so it's kind of like I don't care no then you see those people and you're just kind of like I used to be like that even like Ron Jeremy I remember I did like a short film with him I think he's like in prison now or something I don't know right I don't know what happened to him but I used to be like obsessed with celebrity he was on surreal life you know and so he was so cute on surreal life he was with like Tammy Faye and like he was like he seemed to be really like sweet not like this weird like creeper I guess he is a creeper now but I remember then I met

him and then I was like so excited. Like I probably would have been like, oh my God, I want to date him. But I just saw so many like creepy things he did and I was just like – even at 18 when I was enamored and I was just like, oh my God, I'd do anything to be with a celebrity. I remember being like, this is kind of dark. This is not the cute like guy who was with Tammy Faye trying to help her up the stairs. You know what I mean? Celebrity world can be so dark and Ron Jeremy is not attractive. But I –

That was one of my first celebrities I met and I was like, I want to date him. You know what I mean? That's why even like – well, it has different – I mean I definitely would have been like all over that. I would have been like, I want to be a girlfriend. That was like my goal to go up to the mansion. It was just like meet him. Maybe he'll fall in love with me. And then he didn't because you always hear the girls being like – he asked me at the – was it the first day for you?

No, he asked me to go out with them, the whole group before, and I said no because I was just like a party guest and I didn't want to go. But then I was like, maybe I should move in because I'm about to be homeless in like two weeks. No way. Does that offer still stay on? Wow, really? Yeah.

I love that. That's like so iconic. It is. I'm sorry. I'm just like sitting here like. It's modern day Cinderella, right? Like I was just like, damn. I wish that was like what I wanted. I was like, maybe he'll see me in my love. Like couldn't care less. Like I think I was written up on like the fat list the second time because I didn't get invited back. I went up the first time. I was like kind of skinny. And then the second time I went up, I was like a little more, a little fatter, not too much. I was still like under 150. And then I was never asked back. And then I was like, oh, OK.

Okay. What year were you going? I think right after you had left, it was like 2000. I graduated high school in 2006. I think I was going up there 2008, 2007. Yeah, I left the middle of 2008. Ah.

Ah, yeah. It was – Crystal was definitely up there at the time and I remember and all the girls would order so much food. I went to Fun in the Sun and they're like, you could have quesadilla and smoothies. I didn't eat. But I was like, do they really eat this? Because they were all so skinny. Maybe they do. Maybe they just had really good jeans. I was like, damn, I wish I could be skinny and just eat with you girls. But I wore a dress. It was Fun in the Sun. Everyone had bikinis on. I wore a dress. Maybe that's also why I didn't get invited back.

I don't know how they were doing it then. Everybody was getting taken off the list though after we left. Like even close friends of his. Really? As time went by, like people just started getting cut off the list and nobody knew why. There was definitely some old guys that like tried to like kiss me and they were like literally like 85 and they were not half. So I was like, eh. So maybe I got like denied for that. I remember saying like, ew. Like I like ran away. I was just like, oh no, absolutely not. Yeah. Because you know at 18 you wanted to be that. Maybe I was like 20 or something at the time. And yeah. Do you remember who they were?

Oh, I have pictures with them. I'll have to send them to you. Yeah. Because they would always, because I was always like with Hef, so they would always be like best behavior around me. But then I would hear from other people, like a playmate of the year just told me that like one of them tried to ask her to lunch one day. And like my jaw was on the floor because they just never showed that side around, you know, me or Hef. It was, well, editor, I could edit the name out. Was it? I think it's Hef. That's the one who asked her. Really? And he wore like satin shirts. Hef told me like, oh, that's that guy. And I was like,

And they were like, oh, it's one of Hef's really close friends. And he told me that too. He's like, I'm really good friends with Hef. And he did kind of introduce me because it was, I think then at night they had like a buffet or dinner or something. And he did introduce me to Hef. And yeah, I was, Hef was just out of it. He was out of it. He did feel, he did like feel you up. He did like feel me up. And I thought maybe he thought I was fat or something like that.

Because he said, oh, there's like more to you or something than I thought. I was like, oh, okay. No, you didn't. Yeah, I told this story before. It was something along those lines. And it wasn't like – it was like weird. He was kind of insulting me but still like feeling me up. But, you know, at the time, you're like 20. You're like, yes, I'm like here. And it was before the girls next door with the twins. So I think it must have been the transition time because it was before all that. And they were talking about doing a season. And I was just like, oh, okay, do you want some of these chocolates? Yeah.

Okay. Do you love the brownie one? Oh my God. I'm like, that was the most sugar I've had in so long. Thank you for the crumble. Oh my God. So what do you think compared to Texas? It's a million times better. Like what'd you rate Texas? What? One out of 10? Um, I think they're like a, like a two out of 10. And then these, I would say are probably like an eight out of 10. Oh, what would give them a 10 out of 10?

Probably different flavors. Yeah. What's your ideal flavor from Crumple? I really like banana stuff. Oh. Yeah. I've been so into bananas. What did we just have the other day and it was so good? Right where you're staying. It's literally right next door. I put them up. You can believe this. So there's like a fluffy pancake place called Cece's. It's like Japanese pancakes and they're so thick. They're bouncy. Wait, didn't you just post that on TikTok? Yes. I'm like, I,

I saw that. It was banana and chocolate chip and I've been really into banana. Ruth's Chris has a really great banana. Like, I don't know what those are. Like, it's like a banana creme brulee. I've never been a banana person, but if you like banana sweets, those are really, really good. I need to go check that out. It's so good. Oh my God. Yeah, there's not much to do in this area, but the place you're staying now is where The Bachelor is at. So I always want to stay there. I haven't stayed there yet. I was like, it's,

so familiar and I couldn't figure I call my friends like where is this from and we couldn't figure it out well they shoot the bachelor there so I was like I want to go I haven't been I just know it's like kind of nice I was like no it's beautiful is it nice oh my god yeah I'm so excited okay so predictions are for this year so you have like really good stuff coming because you're like saying yes you're going to be in this big position where some like emperors are going to try and take you down emperor first of all what is an emperor

It's like a – it's a masculine energy and it's something that's in charge. So it's something that rules or thinks they rule. Any idea at all? Not yet. I don't think she's met this person yet. What? Yeah. That's even scarier though, like a new person coming into your life. I guess – I shouldn't say scary. Everything I'm like is so scary but just knowing. I understand the paranoia but it's not – if it was something really like I would be like – but it's not like that. Okay. Nothing crazy. It's just one of those things. It's like someone who just thinks they know everything. Like a schmuck. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, okay. And you can hold your ground. Yeah. I'm going to hold my ground. Yeah. I'm going to say yes to the one thing. I'm going to watch out for that one guy. Do you get intimidated by men? You don't give that energy to me. You know, yeah. I mean, I think I've been through it enough or like maybe not. Yeah. You know? You have the boss energy like you said where you're just like in boss mode. Sometimes I used to get more intimidated by men, but I've been dealing with a lot of women recently, which I actually prefer. Yeah.

Less men I've been dealing with. Even like the agency meeting, it was all women. One gay guy who I loved. And I kind of live for that energy. Sometimes that all male energy, especially like old men that are in Hollywood, it's kind of like, oh, they don't really get it. Yeah. It's like the dream come true. Yeah. Anytime someone wants to like manage me or anything, it's always like all these dudes that don't understand me. Yeah. And it's awful. I hate it. I'm like, when am I going to find women? Yeah.

You have to find the right fit. I feel like I've gone through like managers that are just been awful. I've always had the worst luck and I feel like finding the right fit is like a big one. Do you, you've always, have you worked with managers or you do yourself mostly? I used to have a manager back in like the peep show days, but I just have an agent now. Oh, wow. So they help you get all this like TV stuff and everything like that.

That makes sense because I always wondered how people get on that. That's why I was like so excited to sign with the agency because I was like I never had any connections. I'm like I need to find ways to get connected. It's going to be good. I think that – I'm really curious about that. Like why are people getting sick of like wealthy celebrities? Why is like everybody hating on JLo? That's a good one. You want me to do that? Yeah. Yeah.

literally just sitting here and I'm like, I keep leaving comments and all these TikTok astrologers like, what's going on with JLo? Yeah. Because it's all on my For You page. It's just like everybody hating on JLo. People are turning on her. She might need. And people can't handle it that she ordered an orange drink and a ham and cheese croissant. Like people are like, that's not what you order at the bodega. I'm like, I don't know. I've never been to a bodega. But is that like, would you not order that there? I don't know. I don't think they realize how old JLo is.

Right. Because I feel like now if you go to the bodega, it's much different than when she was there. That's a good – that's a fair assessment for her. Yeah. Because she does look young, but she's like actually in her like 50s. Yeah. Speaking of the looking young, do you think it's something that people drink or do or their energy because Holly looks very young. You look very young. J.Lo looks young. Do you think it's like there's a secret to it? I mean maybe. I don't know. I feel like my whole family looks young, but I also just think being a good person, I think it just –

you're like lighter and i feel like when your energy is lighter you look youthful that's what i feel like it is but maybe i'm just delusional and think i'm a good person no but that makes sense that makes that makes sense actually because i was like you guys all look so young and i'm like also i don't know sometimes i think it's just you know maybe the energy put out comes back to you i don't know i actually don't really know the inner beauty it's like shallow how where you just see the inner beauty on the outside oh my god that reference that movie takes me back i love shallow have you seen that

movie? I haven't. I know what it is. Oh my God. That movie's wild. That's like the most fat phobic movie ever but kind of live for it. No I literally on the plane right here I was watching so many like old movies and the amount of stuff that's said in there that would never fly now blows my mind. Oh it's crazy. It's insane. Yeah no the whole story is basically just him being like superficial and then when she finds out she's fat he's like ew. But he's like in love with her. He sees her as like this beautiful skinny. It's Gwyneth Paltrow obviously and then. It's crazy. Yeah. Every movie's like that. Let's see J. Lo's tarot.

So, oh God. There's a lot of cards you pulled. Yeah, so. You're like, I need a lot for this one. So the sun is reversed for J-Lo, which is about being unhappy. So I know she wants to project that she's happy right now. I don't really buy that. I think for her, she's kind of just someone that needs to be in the spotlight. The sun is like happiness, right? And it's like bright, shining right on you. And for her, I think she's kind of lost right now in like her thing.

I feel like I've always seen her as like a jack of all trades. But I think for her, she really wants to like excel as one thing and it's just not really working. So it's a little bit of an identity crisis. I mean, granted, she's older now. Her demographic has evolved with her. And so she's probably trying to find her way. But I also don't know if I necessarily think her relationship is the nicest. The King of Cuffs is a verse which is about being emotionally checked out.

I think that's him. So I'm just a little worried about that, especially with the Ace of Cups. I think that's pretty obvious that he's checked out. I mean, she argues that he's not. Okay. She would know better than us, right? I don't know. I don't know.

You know everything. You see everything. It is what it is. I mean, look, the Ace of Cups, being upright, is about our idea of love and what constitutes love and where we gain our love from and give our love from. And I think for her, it's all changing.

So I think her semblance of identity is evolving and changing. And I think for her, that's almost like her looking at the comments being like, people used to love when I do this. Why don't they love this? And I think it's because she's changed and she's not realizing that. In her mind, we've all changed. Like you don't get me anymore. But I think it's really just she's much different. I think she's not adapting to...

her authenticity, right? When she was famous at the top, like it was all like perfect image, like, you know, hide everything, like I'm untouchable, but that doesn't work nowadays. Like you need to be transparent. And I think for her, she's kind of just lost in that.

And I think, I don't think her relationship, allegedly, I don't think her relationship is necessarily supporting her the way she needs it to. So she's looking for the outward support in people and she's not getting it. So she's kind of just like, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, like a kid, like performing. And it's just like not.

working. And then down here is kind of like a commentary on like sort of what's going on in society. We have the nine of swords and the nine of wands, which is stress and anxiety and walking on eggshells. I mean, that's everyone right now, right? People are scared of recession. They're scared of all of this. This is the de-influencing thing that we've been seeing like happen where people are just kind of like tired of that, like flaunting that people are doing. But the strength card being reversed, the nine of pentacles tells me that

This is going to sound like a read. I think – I don't mean it that way, but I think people are just tired of people who are only interesting when they're tied to others. Hmm.

And I think when we look at the nine of pentacles, which for me, when it's reversed, like a relationship card and the strength card, which a vulnerability, it's like, you're only interesting and vulnerable when you're around someone else, whether it's you're dating someone or whether it's like you're friends with someone or whatever, they're not interested in that. Like the nine of pentacles,

is when it's reversed, like get a talent, right? That's kind of what it means. And so it's not that she's untalented, but it's more along the lines of like, we don't really care about what's going on. What can you do quickly? You know what I mean? And I think that's kind of like the commentary on pop culture in general right now. Hopefully the viewers can kind of chime in, but that's what I feel like the average viewer is. It's like, give me something that I can't get anywhere else or I'm gone. Like, I'm not interested in you. You're a dime a dozen.

So what are your advice? How can she shift it? Well, I don't think you can really tell JLo what to do. But if she was asking. If she had asked me, I would tell her to drop the act and be honest.

I think if she was honest about her relationship, she would draw more people in and then she could showcase something that she's really proud of that is individualistic. So use the relationship as a hook and then sell us something that isn't the movie that no one wanted to watch. Right. But they didn't. And so I think it's like because the movie was about her, not about what she can do.

You know what I mean? Like when we think of JLo at her best, it's like one of her best acting roles or her performance that she did that was really great, like the Super Bowl or something. So it's like for me, it's like give us something to chew. We don't want to know about you. We want to know about what you can do. Yeah. Like we know she's from the block, but we need to know what's happening now with JLo. That's all news. Yeah. Because I feel like there's probably stuff happening, you know, in her life now that would be interesting. And she likes to share her personal life. So like share it. I would love JLo. I don't know. Yeah.

much about her but I know I mean I love her too but I mean also I think it's like people of a certain age love JLo like yeah she was iconic yeah like Selena and Wedding Planner and all stuff like that one of the best movies yeah are you a JLo fan Holly yeah I mean I just love her as a even just as like a style icon like she learned that so well yeah I know I feel like it needs to go back to that you know and not just whatever she's doing because I don't even know it's like it's almost like she's not even doing anything people are just like turning on her and you're just like she's kind of like

Maybe you're right. Maybe the lack of doing something like the movies. Yeah. Think of iconic JLo moments. It's her fashion, but it's her roles. But also like On the 6th was a great album. But I don't really feel like – I mean I listened to her new album and I didn't –

It just didn't feel like her. - The new one as in the one that she did the whole big movie about. Yeah, I had no idea what it was about. The whole thing was so confusing. - Yeah, it was a lot. But I know Kim Petras is in it and I love her. So I was like, "Oh." - Oh my God, how good for her. I guess she didn't say no. Everyone was saying no to JLo, I guess Kim Petras. - Well, she has like a thing in the movie where she like is like, I guess spiritual and there's like people that are overseeing her like gods and each celebrity represents a zodiac sign.

And they got the celebrities to play their actual zodiac sign. So Kim Patrick plays a Virgo because she's a Virgo. And it's just really cool. Yeah, that was the coolest part of the movie for me. See, I am a J-Lo stan. I love that. And what's your sign? I'm a Gemini. Are you a true Gemini? Yeah, there's two of me. They always say like the good twin and the bad twin. But for me, it's the bad twin and the badder twin. Oh my gosh, really? I'm a little mischievous, yeah. Wow. Okay, I can see that about you. Very playful. What's your guess of Holly's sign if you had to guess?

Libra? No, but I'm a Libra moon. So I do have a lot of like Libra in me. Like I blame a lot of things I do on the Libra influence for sure. I'm a Capricorn though, but I'm a Libra moon. Oh my God. You love Capricorns? I love them. I do too. Every man that's ever broken my heart, Capricorn.

Yeah, all the cool people were Capricorns. I wanted a January baby because of Elvis. I was like, I really want it because he was a Capricorn too. They're really cool. I don't know much about female Capricorns. Well, you're both earth signs. You're Taurus. Yeah, I'm a Taurus. A lot of my best friends are Taurus. Really? Wait, what does that mean, earth sign? Earth sign.

Well, you can either be earth, air, fire, or water. So it's just a different element. Like earth sign people tend to be grounded, but also like enjoy like material things. Oh, interesting. Practical. Yeah. Are you into material things?

Yeah. Really? Oh, I didn't know that about that. I guess you like never really show them off or anything like that. But yeah, I do too. I love, I love a good purse that I never wear. No, that's a good thing. I need to be more like that because I'm more of like an experienced person. And for me, someone asked me this the other day. They were like, you know,

how do you feel about gift giving as like a love language? I'm like, I don't mind it. But for me, it's like the memory that's attached to the gift is more impactful. Yeah, definitely that. Yeah, like super sentimental. No, I feel that way too. I always thought I liked gifts, but I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely more of like the other ones. Because I'm like, I just buy myself stuff. So it's like, I don't really, I prefer to buy myself because I know what I like. And then I'm like, oh, there's other things that people do for me. Love languages are so interesting. What's yours?

Um, probably touch is the biggest one. Oh. Me too. Me too. Wait, really? I need it so bad. Oh, interesting. I was surprised of it as a child. Oh. So I really need like when, like if I'm like upset and someone rubs my back, that's better than asking if I'm okay. Yeah. Or if someone holds my hand, it's like. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. So there's a touch. Hmm.

Yeah, I guess that's like why. And mine's like acts of service. I love when people do things for me. I never had anyone do anything before Moses. No one ever did anything for me. So I'm like, oh my God, this is like a whole new world. I love that. What are the other ones? Words of affirmation. Just telling you like you're so pretty. Yeah. And then quality time. Was that spending time with someone? Yeah.

You do a lot of that. Well, yeah. I guess I have so much of that, so I don't even think about it. Words of affirmation is interesting. I wonder if there's anyone's love languages who's like, I need to hear that I'm beautiful. Well, it's not necessarily that you're pretty. It's more like a reassurance. Like, I love you. I'm here for you. Yeah. Like, I think for me, like, the second most important is words of affirmation. Because my parents were very, like, old school Italians. So it was like, don't ask, don't tell. We didn't really talk. There was no, like, sharing of feelings. So for me, that's, like, really important.

Interesting. So that's like you became the opposite of that. You're like, I need to hear these words. And I need people to like touch me and like love me. Were you guys touchy growing up? No, not at all. No hugs. No. So that's why you love it too. Oh my God. There's so much psychology behind it. There's no site. We need Dr. Drew here to like acknowledge it. Just one more person to add to the mix. But that's so interesting. So I always feel like you grew up with things that you like grew up with. Like if you don't get touched, you don't like touching people or something like that. Some people are like that. Right. My brother is like that where he doesn't really like touch, but I need it.

Interesting. Huh. So from this tarot reading...

I just think it's like – I genuinely think it's just like a commentary on the direction in which pop culture is going. I feel like every two years, especially the internet changes, and I think people are just really not interested in mediocrity. So if you're not the best of the best, they're not going to be interested. So just be the best. Interesting. Where do you see the future? We were talking about this in the interview with Holly is like the future of like social media and podcasting. Like where do you see it being –

I mean, for me, I think it's only going to get bigger because I don't think people like big productions. And I think they like independent stuff. I mean, look at what's going on with all like the exposing documentaries and stuff of all like the crazy stuff that's going on. It's like people are – they don't trust mainstream as much as they used to. So I think it's only going to get bigger. I think influencers are only going to be stronger to be honest. Influencers kind of are like the main celebrity right now I feel. Like I get starstruck with like mainstream but I feel like –

more influential people are on TikTok like the Alex Earls and stuff like that. Well kids nowadays and young teens they don't care about regular celebrity. They care about you you like influencers or people who make content. That is interesting. That's how my kids are. I was just saying they only watch YouTube. They don't care about regular shows like I did when

They don't even have cable, half of them. Yeah. Are they watching like TikTokers and stuff like that? They're not allowed to be on social media, but they love to watch. It's just we have like the Kids Safe YouTube. They love to watch like Unspeakable and Mr. Beast and people like that. And like the Preston Plays, like those people. Mr. Beast. I know. Mr. Beast is wild to me, but that makes sense. I'm like, who's watching this? But maybe children are watching it. Yeah, that's exactly what his demo is. And they love to watch him?

Yeah. Wow. They sent me the Feastables and I was so excited to give it to them. You need to be on one of his things. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think of that. Oh my God. That'd be everything. Oh my God. Oh my God. My kids would just like. Yeah, they would totally manifest it. Oh my God. That'd be crazy. I thought he wouldn't let you win. Yeah.

I had a guest on Rosianna and she said she placed third and they made it look like she was like one like seventh or something. They like edited her to look bad. She's like, yeah, it was a whole. I feel like we had the first exposing video on Mr. B's. I don't know. His chocolates were delicious. Did you try them? Yeah, they were really good. They remind me of like Dove chocolate. Oh, okay. I was thinking more like Nestle Crunch, but Dove is a little more elevated and luxury. I like it. No, I loved it. And I'm kind of a little Mr. B's hater over here, but I loved his chocolate. It was so good. Interesting. Yeah, it's a whole. I don't think he's like...

I don't see him as like a creative person. I see him as like an algorithm. Like he's like a human algorithm. Like a mastermind. Yeah. Like I see him almost like a computer. Like his ideas, while they are creative, it's more of like what can get the most views, what are people interested in rather than this is what I believe in. Right. So I don't really see him as like – at least I don't really think of him as like a creator. You think of him as just – like I also think of him as like a face because there also has to be like a lot of – like a big machine behind him. Oh, yeah. For sure. You know what I mean? I feel like he's not the one coming up with these ideas and the grand –

Yeah, but some of his interviews, he just so – Gives you an ick. Yeah, the way he thinks is like it's not like people are humans. It's like they're robots. It's like AI. Yeah, we were talking about that too. The future of AI is here and it's like kind of scary, this whole thing. Because I know you, you like became full influencer. Like you do mainstream stuff on TV, but you're like still full-time influencer like TikTok and – Yeah, I started doing that during the pandemic and I just felt like it was the first time I could like be myself on camera because like when I was doing TV shows, I never was. I was always like super scared and like always trying to like be something else.

and on social media and your podcast too I feel like you're just like more you because it's like in your home yeah so it's like more casual and the Patreon and people just being candid love it especially because like watching Girls Next Door it was so like polished and you know they only have the funny moments or the ditzy moments or whatever and so like to hear you guys like talk on it and be like it was so different than how it showed is like

So interesting. Yeah, and just being always afraid I was going to get in trouble if I said the wrong thing. Yeah, totally. Would they like watch it back and give you like notes or anything and be like, don't say this, don't do this? Well, Hef always watched everything back. Like he had final cuts. So if he didn't like anything, it was taken out. And of course it was heavily edited. So like the producers had an idea of like what we were supposed to be as characters. And he never really let us veer from that in the edit. But there were times every once in a while where like something would slip through and then he'd like get mad at me, you know, if I like flashed the camera or something stupid. Wait, why? You would think

they would love that because it's like, you're at a bonus point or something. I know, it's so weird. Only Kendrick could do that. They're like, no, you can't flash your food. I gotta live for that though. Did they ever show, they never showed the nudity on E like at night or anything? Not on E and we were always okay like doing our pictorials and being nude in front of the camera because we thought, oh, they can't show it, it's going to be blurred but then like a year and a half later when the DVD comes out, like all the nudity's on the DVD.

All the nudities in the foreign markets. And we were like, oh my God. Wait, they didn't tell you that? No. That's nothing. That's wild. That seems like illegal or something. I was going to say, is that in your contract? Like, oh my God. Well, we didn't even have contracts at first. Like we had to sign a basic release, but they didn't pay us at first. Nothing. What? That's crazy. Especially the first season. Like what? Like they paid you something, you would think. No. Later we got paid a little bit, but no. Oh my God. That is crazy. It was nuts. Did you ever feel like a...

like energy sucking from this show or anything like that or not. Like, you know, when you're like naked, you're really vulnerable, right? So I was like, you know, the little naked sacrifice or whatever. I don't know. I've never been sacrificed. I'm just saying like, when you've had sacrifices, like, you know, they strip you naked for a reason, you know? So it's like, did you ever feel like in a weird energy sucking or no? That sentence, did you ever feel a weird energy sucking? Like, you know,

You're like naked and all these guys are just like making money and you're not getting paid. And it's just like this whole thing. I didn't necessarily feel like that from that specifically, but living at the house and being treated a certain way definitely felt that way. And, you know, when we would see stuff, people would write about us on message boards and all the negativity right away. Like that felt like that way. And just kind of all the judgment we would get, you know, when you'd go to the outside world, people had all these assumptions. So I was feeling that constantly, but it came from a lot of different places.

Like people were just trying to like take advantage of you, your looks, your...

Yeah, or just being mean and just trying to write you off like, oh, you're such a slut or something. I feel like that's – I'm so glad we're like not in that world now. I feel like it's like if you like judge people now, it's like such like OnlyFans or anything like that. They're like, what's wrong with you? Like, you know what I mean? Well, now I know how much money they're making so they can't. Yeah. Well, it is crazy. Oh, my gosh. I know on your show, on the first episode, you said you had an OF. I didn't know that. But you don't anymore. I did for a while during the pandemic. It wasn't nude or anything. It was just like bikini and lingerie. I didn't know that. I stopped.

it. Just because you were like, eh, I'm over it? Yeah, well, my kids are getting older and they're going to be on the internet. So it's just... Yeah. I know. It's a hard one. I just stopped mine too. And I was just like, I don't know. I wasn't putting new content out, but I was like, maybe I should just take it down. I don't know. Feels like a whole shift. Have you ever done it? I would never. I am like...

Again, old Italian, old school Italian upbringing. I have too much shame with my body. Shame? Really? I have massive body dysmorphia. Really? I used to be a fat kid. So for me, it's like I will never see myself the way other people see me. So I don't even take nude pictures. And I can't, like when I get out of the shower, I run to book a look. Wait, really? Yes. It's that bad. Oh my gosh. How do you get over it? I don't. Or how are you dealing with it? You don't, you just. Well, I have rules. Like I don't have any mirrors in my room anymore.

Oh my gosh. And I try to make sure I'm not around them too often because I'll sit in front of them and just pick myself apart. And I try to have positive affirmations. I have my good days and I have my bad days. Yeah. You look amazing. That's like the first thing I noticed. I was like, you look so good. Thank you. Also, did you know it's actually not good to have mirrors in your room because that actually does suck? What is it? In your bedroom. Why is it? You told me why. At nighttime, your spirit wanders around. It'll see itself and you don't want it.

It's true. It's a portal. Oh, you guys know? I had an experience with one in my room once. I swear to God. So this was like right before I blew up, which is interesting. There was one in my room and I remember I had like – I was like sitting on my bed doing something. I think it was like writing in my journal or something and I had gotten up and I was walking by and I had it like laying down against – not like that. It was like this.

like up against my closet door. And so I had walked past it and then I kind of like blacked out. I don't really remember what happened. I remember my body went from walking straight to like turning and-

So, like, the mirror was, like, here, and then I was here walking this way, and then my body turned and faced this way, and I fell in going this way. Oh, no. But what's interesting is this mirror is very small. Okay? It was, like, probably not, like, a human size. It was, like, a cheap one from Target. And...

It's weird because if I would have like passed out from something, I would have just fell forward or to the side. But my body physically turned and it went – I went down like this and it was almost like I was sitting on it, which doesn't make any sense. And the only way I could replicate that fall is if someone put their arms around me and pulled me. Whoa. And so I remember literally falling down and then I got up and I – the glass was everywhere and I looked and I said, am I dead? Because I like –

don't remember what happened and then I had gotten up and when I'd gotten up like I think it was like an hour had passed and I didn't know what like it felt like I had just gotten back up and so like I went to the doctor everything was fine I didn't pass out I didn't have any issues with passing out like nothing like that and to this day I have no idea other than I think something tried to grab me through the mirror literally how is that's crazy how do you think you fought it but I fought it

I have no fucking idea. You don't know? You can't remember? I think it was maybe a garden angel. Maybe I just got lucky. Maybe it was just playing a joke on me or whatever. I don't know. Who was playing a joke on you? Like a spirit or something. I don't know. But ever since then, because I used to be like, okay, portals maybe, but I'm protected. No. Wow. So I will never make that mistake again. Well, good thing you have no mirrors anywhere. They can't suck you in anymore. It's true. I used to have mirrors all over. And Mo was like, he would cover it. And I was like, why are you covering it? And he's like, it's like a portal.

portal and I was like yeah and supposedly like if mirrors face each other like that's extra bad what I have that in one of my closet areas because there's a mirror and then a door that opens and a witch came to my house and she was like that's a portal over there to put her to what though like portal to anything like a spirit realm yeah well there's multiple dimensions is the theory so like something from another dimension can come through wow I always think that like what the dog's like talking to me I heard something you did an interview recently and

With dogs talking to me? Something was talking to you. Wait. I just saw it. Wait. And it was something so weird. Oh, the bird. No, the breeding. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The bird breeding. You're right. You said there was like a girl coming with like bad energy. And I was like thinking to myself, oh my God, I don't want to talk to her. The bird like jumped off of me, bit this girl, kept biting her until she leaves. Yeah. And then the bird used to do like an impression of a human laugh. And like the second she was out of earshot, the bird turns and looks at me and goes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Ah! They knew. Like he was telling me he got rid of that person. Like could read my, like I was so in sync with this bird. That's wild. No, I totally believe in it. I do too. And I've heard a dog talk before and I was like, then I heard you say it and I was like, I believe animals can like hear us. You had a dog talk? Mm-hmm. In December of 2019. And it's real. It's so real. What did it say? It gave me my passcode. And it must have been my mind. I swear. I swear.

I believe you, but that's crazy. Like, I didn't even know. It wasn't my dog. And it didn't even, because I remember the guy I was with was like high out of his mind. He's like, how would he even know your passcode? I'm like, oh, that's a good question. I don't know. Like, but he knew it. And he said it so like, like a siren, like so like, Harf.

Like it was like that. And I was like, wow. And he was saying other stuff too. He was really sad and it was like this whole thing. It was really sad. I think the dog went missing. But yeah, it's really sad. No, it's sad. I say it like lighthearted, but it was so sad. I need to know who this enchanted dog is. No, I think he's no longer with us. It's really sad because he was really sweet. Yeah. But I think he, well, maybe he is. I don't know. He just went missing. So I don't know. But it's a whole thing. But yeah, I believe in those. I didn't know about the portals and the dimensions and the

The witchery of it all. I could talk about that for hours, yeah. Interesting. So you are a witch, a psychic. Technically, yeah.

I don't – I try not to get too like label-y or whatever because I feel like sometimes it alienates people. Right. I feel like I'm just like you guys. I just – I can hear things and see things that maybe you haven't yet. You know what I mean? Like I don't think it's something that makes me like super special. I think it does. I think it's pretty cool. Yeah. Oh my god. Your talent is amazing and your cards are great. I love too the cards are kind of like old school cards. Let me see. Yeah. I want to make my own.

That's the goal. Oh my God, you should. Like with you on them? Yeah. That would be cool. But the thing is, I'm not artistic, so I had to find an artist. Here, you want to look at this? God, I had someone. Someone made me a deck of tarot cards with me on them. It was during 2019, my tour. It was so cool. And they were holographic. They were really good artists. They did everything. Oh, and it doesn't matter if I'm touching these? It doesn't transfer energy? Some people are very whatever about that, but for me, they're just a tool. Things go through me. All right, so do I have to shuffle them or I can just pull? Here, put these in there too then if you're going to do it.

Well, I mean, I don't need to like, well, this is for entertainment purposes only. I don't want people to think I'm like. I want you to get the full experience. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you have to say that before every video? Just in case. Yeah. Because I get threatened a lot legally. Yeah. That's good. All right. Nine of pentacles. Six of cups upright. And. Ace of swords. Ace of swords. Okay. Okay.

You want to know my interpretation of them? Yeah, I would love it. Okay, so. I would love to do a video of you reading my tarot. Okay. Nine of Pentacles. Ooh, they're pretty. These look like Sailor Moon. They're all Sailor Moon inspired. Yeah, the artist. Yeah, the artist. I thought it was just this one. I was like, okay, okay. All right, so that has nothing to do with the card. Nine of Pentacles. Oh my God, this is so hard. I see for you, you're like a cat with nine lives. So even if you get unalived, you're going to come back. I love it. Oh my God. Like if you flatline, you'll come back.

That's amazing. Well, I hope I don't die. No, but I feel like people that you get even more in tune with this world, right? They see the light. Like a near-death experience. Yes. Yeah. So you're going to have nine lives. So have you had any near-death experiences yet? I hope not. I don't think so. Not yet. Okay. I'm not manifesting that for you. I'm just saying. No, I believe you're not yet. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay. I don't want to manifest that for you. No, no, no. I know. If anything, if you ever get like a scare, you're going to be fine. You're going to come back. Okay. Nine times. Six of cups. I see love coming into your life.

Yeah, you're the one with the purple hair and the one with the green hair is love. He's going to be offering you his little heart and you're going to say yes and you're going to get married. You don't see me crushing his soul and wishing he never existed? No, you're happy. You're happy and I think you should dye your hair purple. Oh my God. And then finally, the Ace of Swords. Ooh, I see you becoming a knight.

Okay. Like knighted by, well, not the queen because she died, but maybe the king or whoever's living. Maybe it's going to be William. Someone's going to knight you. She sees me marrying a royal. You never know. I always wanted to be a prince or princess. Okay. And that's who I see in your future. Thank you. All right.

Well, that was the tarot reading. Thank you so much for being here. Holly, thank you for orchestrating this. I feel like this all was manifested, aligned together. Because when you texted me, I was like, wait, I know him. And then it's like this whole thing and you were down to come on. The universe aligned. I'm so excited. Oh my God. Thank you guys for all coming on here. And I loved it. These cards were everything. I thought this was like so good, so insightful. And we got to get a cloak and take some pictures. Yeah, thank you. If you ever want me back, just call me.

Oh my God, please. Yes. If you're out here in LA, let me know. I'll come have a tarot reading whenever. All right, guys. Thanks for watching. Check them out everywhere and we'll see you in the next one. Bye guys. All right, you guys. We are here with the man, the myth, the legend himself, the extraordinary celebrity, psychic, pop culture, psychic, and just a really good person. Oh, thanks. Ant Fridide. Hi everyone. Do people know, we're not going to have to say it, but do people know your real name?

I think so. Yeah. Cause it's aunt and Aphrodite together. Aphrodite. So most people figure it out. I thought, what a cool pun. Is that a pun or play on words? I don't know what it is, but it's just, I honestly saw it in my head one day and I was like, that's my name. It's so cute. And then it's so weird. Cause we just had Holly on, obviously we just did a whole reading with her. She had sent me a, a TikTok and it was about Aphrodite. And I'd never heard of that person before. I didn't know an Aphrodite. So I was like, wait, did they take your name? And then I realized, Oh my God.

It's a play. It's a Greek goddess. Yeah. A beauty, right? Love and beauty. Yeah. She would pit men against each other and use sex as like a weapon. Yeah. Icon. Oh, okay. Icon. I was going to name my third daughter that if we had a third daughter, but I was like, maybe not. I don't know. That sounds a little intense. No, I mean, that's like every God has good and bad. So that was like some of her bad, but her good was she represents beauty and love, right? Yeah. I wonder if there is anyone named Aphrodite. I'm sure there is. I'm sure it's popular. Yeah.

Yeah. Really? But is it like, yeah, I don't know. I like it. I like the name. I like just like Greek gods in general, like Zeus or Thor. I think it'd be cool. I was obsessed with mythology as a kid. Really? Yeah. You got into like the full, cause you're Italian. Yeah. There's no Greek in you. No. But you just love that. Well, there's been Greek in me, but not gods. Yeah. Yeah. What is your type? Do you have a type? Oh,

You know what's interesting? Kind of. I have a thing right now for like beachy blonde boys. Like I always joke my celebrity crush, and you're going to cringe, everyone cringes, Logan Paul. No, he's gorgeous. Yeah, not personality wise, but like looks wise, like tall and blonde is my type right now. But I've been with everything. I mean, he's kind of like a standard quickie.

Like he's universally attractive, I think. Yeah. Like a surfer. He would be a good Greek god in a movie because his body is crazy from wrestling. Oh, my God. He would be like really good as like a Zeus or something like that. No, he's so attractive. Hercules. It's ridiculous. Yeah, interesting. I don't know. His personality is good. I'm Logan Paul. Like not as damn, but I like him. If you look like Logan Paul, hit me up. Yes. In the Texas area, are you willing to travel? Oh, I'll travel anywhere. I don't care. Oh, my God. I love that. I always said I'll travel for love.

I'm a romantic. So for me, it's like, if it works, I'll make it work however I need to. The only rule is I will never give up my career for a man ever. Oh, great rule right there. I love that for you. And so many people do. They like lose it. I would, I used to always be like, I'm giving up my career for a guy. Like any guy, any relationship with a guy, I would just like, wouldn't care about what I was doing. I was like, I'm just going to follow this person. Yeah. I don't want to lose myself. That's so good. I think my dream guy is someone who's like an entrepreneur that has his own thing. So you can like

- Off for a week and being alone. - Yeah. - 'Cause I like my alone time. - You do, you're a little introverted? - Well, I don't know if I would say I'm introverted as much as I isolate to protect myself. 'Cause I was like a loser growing up, had no friends. - Yeah, you were talking about this. - Yeah, I was like an ugly fat kid with no friends. I was tremendously bullied. - Would you say bullied for more, you said ugly and fat, those are two really harsh things. - Yes. - Do you think,

- Interesting, so would people more tease you for being ugly or being fat? - Being gay. - Oh no! - The trifecta, ugly, fat, gay. - No, really? - So it's interesting. Okay, so I'm 32. So when I was growing up, things were a little different than they are now. We didn't really have the internet, and if you did have the internet when I was older, you had to be rich, right? So I didn't really have an outlet, and I didn't even know what gay meant.

because I had a very like old school Italian upbringing. So like, it was like, they never told me anything. Like, and my parents worked all day. I was like a latchkey kid. So I kind of raised myself. And so I had to teach myself things. So I would learn on the bus, like what, like a blow job was or like what sex was. At least you learned. I never learned that. Well, I had no idea. And so for me, people knew I was gay before I even knew what that word meant.

So they would call you that and you just think it'd be like ugly or something. Yeah, I didn't know what it meant. Yeah. I was just like, why is everyone attacking me? And like I was just like – obviously I was like awkward because I was like raising myself and teaching myself how to do things. So like a kid is not really going to know how to like dress or like take care of themselves. So I was like awkward and weird. Only child. No, I have an older brother. Okay. And he's like six years older than I am. Okay. So he wasn't like – So we're always indifferent. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And also we're very different. Like super different. Is he like Jersey Shore Italian? No, he's like a teacher. So he's like prim and proper and like perfect. And he follows all the rules. And he's like really smart and educated. And I'm like wild and crazy. You said you're bad and batter.

and badder earlier. Yeah. Yeah. My bad twin. Yeah. So he's always like the goody two shoes and I'm the rule breaker. So we're just very. How interesting. You seem goody to me. I think I have that aura. Yeah. But there's that mischievous side to me. I always say it. I'm not evil. Right. But I'm playful. So I feel like if people like that playful energy, I feel like you have the same energy. Yeah. So I feel like if you have that, you understand it. But if you don't, then you don't get it. Like what would you say you're most mischievous in? Dating. Dating.

- Oh, so maybe that's the reason. You're just a little bit. - Well, I would say I don't like men that are easy to push over. I'm a dominant personality. - Really? Okay. - Very dominant. And so-- - And you like that role.

I don't mind. Here's the thing. I feel like we can all play a role when we want to and we can take turns. Yeah. But I have to respect you. And I feel like if it's too easy and I just like walk all over you, I'm not interested. Like you need to push back. Interesting. So you like test it out first. Yeah, I test, man. You need to have balls. I'm kind of the same way. Yeah, because I like to be – I am a dominant person. But then like when you get to know me and we're in a relationship, I do like to be like the one that's like you decide. You take care of Adam.

I don't know. You know, because everything else I'm very dominant in. Yeah. I don't know if I would say I would let them decide everything because I'm a b****. That's so interesting. With men. People always say like, oh, you're so sweet to your friends and stuff. When it comes to men, I hold them to a higher standard. Hmm.

Like and I think for me, I'm very guarded. Like I know I have the biggest heart ever and I'm such a giving person. I have to protect myself because people take advantage. I've been taken advantage by men my entire life. So it's like I'm very guarded with that. And if you can get past the barbed wire, you're rewarded. But most men don't want to and I'm okay with being single. So it's all right.

So you're good. You're like content. You're like not like itching to be with somebody. No, I would love to find someone. Yeah, if it happens. If it happens, it happens. Yeah. But I'm not going to chase it. And I'm also not making the first move. I've made that mistake too much in my life. Every time I've made the first move, it's been a disaster. So I won't do it anymore. I feel like that like mantra that's all over TikTok applies to like dating. Like I don't chase, I attract. And I feel like that's such a big thing. Because when I would like chase people down, including my husband, I was like, I was so obsessed with chasing and chasing. He just like ignored me. He like blocked me for like two months. And then I realized like,

When I like backed off and I was just like, I'm just going to live my life. It's like then he came back and it was like this whole weird thing. And I was like, oh, this is – yeah, I like this better. And it felt better. Yeah. I think for me, I try not to like think about anything. I try to just feel. Yeah. Like and I think when it comes to relationships, like I don't really like to overanalyze. It's just like what my gut feeling is and I go with it. Yeah. I think that's important especially because what you do is all – a lot of it is intuition and your feelings. I don't like what I do though.

Oh, interesting. So you tell them your – what do you tell them? Well, I try to tell them that I'm a YouTuber and keep it vague. And then they go, well, what do you do? And then if I tell them I'm a psychic, a lot of times they run.

They're not into it. Or I'll tell them like, oh, I do like pop culture and stuff. But then they always Google me. Yeah. Or like reverse Google image search my picture and then it's over. Really? I think they would be so intrigued because you have such an aesthetic. Like you fit in this aesthetic because we have the same aesthetic. So it's like you think they'd be like, oh, who is this person? I think if I met a man he would be, but I meet boys. Right.

And so they're intimidated. - It's a big difference. - Because the lesson I learned, so when I was younger, I was like, oh, I'm not gonna even try to find like the perfect person because like I'm not self-sufficient. So I wanna be self-sufficient before I find love.

And stupid me forgot to factor in men into that where a lot of men don't like when someone has a potential to be more successful than them or is more successful. Interesting. Because I didn't even think about that with like gay relationships. It's the same way. Yeah. But it's so interesting because that's how it is with hetero, right? Like a lot of anyone will tell you they like guys get threatened if you have like a career or something. So that's interesting. Well, I told you. It's like I'm a straight woman in a gay man's body. Yeah. It's weird. I believe it. And when you say that, that like made total sense to me because it's like this whole different world and

But maybe in that sense, if you feel that way, you should get more into your feminine energy for dating. I'm trying. Yeah. I've made a lot of big steps. But it's just – it's hard to find someone that actually like enjoys me. Like I'm like, you don't like me. It's okay. Yeah. It'll take that one person. You're 32. I'm the most one at 32. I feel like in your 30s is when you flourish and like if you find someone you do. Or like you said, if you're content being – a lot of people are. They just don't want to –

I think I'll be with someone eventually. I think you will. But I'm not in a rush. Yeah, I never want to like push that on someone. But I always think like, yeah, you will. You'll find someone. I mean, manifest me. Yeah. I think if you want it, as you said, you know, it's just like, you know, I'm going to have this, you know, it's just not here yet and stuff like that. And you're going to be such a catch because you do have your own stuff going on. It's just like, yeah, finding a guy who's not intimidated by it. So hard.

And they all are. Like me too. Like everyone was like intimidated by it. And it's like I didn't see it until after and I was like, oh, they were like intimidated. That's why they didn't want you to do this, that, and that. Because for me it's the same as I have imposter syndrome. Yeah. So I'm just like I'm not that cool. It's good to keep that way though because I have that very much and it's very real for me too. Like I just don't want to reach out to people. But it's like good to keep that because then you don't want to be like an asshole where you think you're like – and a lot of influencers do. They get this like big head and rightfully so you make a lot of money. Yeah. I've met so many of them and I'm like –

- Yeah, yeah, you were telling me. - I don't wanna be like that ever. - No, me neither. - Because I got into what I do so I can learn about people and I find people, like regular people, viewers, whatever, the average person, way more interesting than a celebrity.

I find that more so now, especially with the age of TikTok. I like finding just regular people on that app than just like, yeah, the influencer is trying to be somebody. Yeah, I'm not really impressed by celebrities. But being here in LA, are you going to go do an influencer week? Because you're staying here for a little while. Yeah, I'll be here for a week. I have some friends. I don't know. I mean, I've reached out to a few people. If you ever reach out to me, we'll see if something happens. But I'm not like, I don't understand how to be an influencer. Go to Barney's Beaneries. Do you know what that is? No, I don't know what that is. It's the new Saddle Ranch. It's on Santa Monica. I don't know where you're staying after this, but-

I know like tonight you'll stay here, but I'm saying, are you going to go into the city? You think like. Yeah, I'm going to be in WeHo. Yeah. So it's there. It's right there. It's like off Santa Monica Boulevard in La Cienega. Okay. And it's like the place, but it's very influencer-y. So I'd be interested to see. I want to go just to see, but I'm like, I don't know. It seems like a lot. It's very like Saddle Ranch. Okay. In 2020. I'm just like.

We go there and show up. That would be everything. Oh my God. Could you imagine? Oh my gosh. Yeah. I love, I haven't been to WeHo in so long. I keep saying, I'm like, I want to go. I want to go. Do you go out when you go there? Yeah. We're going to, you should come. I would love, I haven't been in so long. Next time. Next time. No, I, yeah. Maybe when I'm not pregnant. I can't really drink. I'm just there with like my pregnant belly, but all the gays would love it. Oh, I just love the gays. You know what I mean? For the most part. Like you said, there's, there's that inner, there's that one group of like gay guys that can just be a lot, but yeah, it's the most part. I'll protect you. Yeah. Yeah.

interesting so when you go out because you don't really like hook up and stuff like that oh yeah so you just go out just to have fun dance with your friends yeah i first of all i love going out by myself i love going to a bar by myself i can never that is my thing when i moved to austin i literally just kept going to bars and stuff by myself just chilling that's how i made friends amazing and i love doing that now to this day like it's just something so therapeutic about going on a dance floor dancing by myself and just like forgetting oh my god i love that that

That's like, that's real security. You were talking earlier. Do you talk about your insecurities online? Yeah. Okay. I don't want to like get into it if you're not comfortable, but it's interesting because you talked about having like body dysmorphia and stuff like that. But being able to go out on your own is like a huge security. I'm so insecure. I can never, I'd be like, people are looking at me. People are. So I learned through a therapist years ago that I have unhealthy levels of self-reliance due to an abandonment wound as a child. Mm-hmm.

So I was tremendously bullied in fist fights every day. Like jump, they would steal my shoelaces. - Oh my God. - Like attack me at my lockers. They would throw food at me, like just constant every day. So the only person I had to protect myself was myself. So I'm very comfortable with myself.

Wow. And, you know, I had to learn, you know, I have some trauma too. Like for instance, I was talking about this recently. Like when I meet someone in like an unsure environment, whatever, I'm always thinking of like an escape route or how I can get away or take that person. Like if I can physically take them or if I can grab a weapon or whatever because of the trauma. The fight or flight. Yes. Minus fight.

Right. Yeah. So it's like my reaction. So it's like I'm always thinking about that in the back of my mind, like visualizing like how can I get away if I need to. Oh my gosh. So it's hard. But, you know, I've made a lot of progress now. Wow. So you can go out. Well, that's amazing. That's amazing that you're able to now like fight that and go out because I would be – even now I'm like I can't go out by myself. I'm sure that I can handle myself. Like I know I'm good. But it made me a very protective person. Like I'm very protective of my friends, the people that I love, like super protective. Yeah. So it's like –

I know I'm good and I don't want anyone else to go through what I went through so I'm protective of the people I care about I think that's like such a good quality to have though it's like that's a lot of those people who are like the great people later in life they've gone through so much as a kid so they're like trying to protect everyone around them which is amazing so to your psychic ability so we were talking about this you are you consider yourself a psychic yeah yeah yeah not a medium correct yeah

- A tarot card reader falls into that category of psychic? - So yeah, so psychic is, the tarot cards are my divination tool. So it's like I'm downloading information and the tarot cards help guide it and help me understand what I'm feeling. - Interesting, and you're seeing when you're pulling these cards, you're seeing images in your head. - Right, so I don't have an inner dialogue at all. So there's nothing up there, which by the way would have helped me tremendously in school if I had known that because I would always be in trouble in school and not do well. But like I thought when people were like, oh, the voice inside my head, it was like a figure of speech.

But no, people really hear... Yeah. Yeah. I don't really... Like it's just visuals. Like when I read, it's just like the words. And so for me...

My psychic ability, I feel like that's probably why it's so easy for me to tap in is because I already just see visuals. So it's just the same thing that I'm always seeing. Are you always seeing visuals throughout the day or just when you're reading? Yes, all day, every day. That's how I communicate. That's why when I describe things, I have to be very specific because sometimes people don't understand me because it's all metaphors basically in my head. Like my feelings are pictures. My thoughts are pictures and I have to interpret it.

- Interesting, and then so when you're, not when you're around other people, do you pick up all the energies, like people's energies? - Yeah, I'm very susceptible to energy, but I know how to protect myself. - From the energy? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So if someone has like bad energy, you can like repel it? - Yeah, well I'm the best judge of character on the planet and I will-- - You know how to stay away. - Yeah, I told you I have very good pattern recognition. So the way someone speaks, the way they say something, the way that they've worded something, the way they phrase something, I pretty much know who a person is within the first 10 minutes of meeting them.

Wow. And have you always had this ability? Yes, but it's gotten heightened because of all the stuff I've been through. But yes, I'm just like a really good judge of character. So I tell people all the time, I suck at everything. I can't read. I can't count. You know, I don't have any other talent, but I'm good at people. Yeah, but that's a big talent to have. I mean, I feel like that's all you need that navigates so much in your life with everything you do. Yeah. Business, social love, like all of that.

Yeah. Which is, yeah. And so you always have that from like a kid. So when you were getting bullied in school, would you know, would you feel like, would you pick on someone's energy? Like this is someone I should avoid or you just develop that as you got through stuff. Developed it because of that. Well, also when I was a kid, I just didn't understand what the hell was going on. I actually dove into astrology and tarot cards because I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me that people didn't like me.

Yeah. So, and then I found out, oh, I'm actually badass. Interesting. What did the card say that made you see that? Well, no, just like diving into my astrology chart and seeing I have an Aries moon and things like that. I was just like, oh yeah, I'm a bad bitch. Like it just helped me. Yeah. Helped me understand myself and my self-confidence. And I was like, wait, I actually think I'm like really talented and you see it before I see it in myself. Wow.

Wow. So you're Gemini, Aries moon, what's your, is it sun? Yeah. Sag ascendant. It's ascendant. Okay. So Sag ascendant, Gemini sun, Aries moon. Yeah. And do you believe in like that kind of stuff? Like the horoscopes? Yeah. To an extent. Yeah. I think it helps understand someone's journey. It's not necessarily who they are, but it helps you understand what their journey was in life.

And then how did you, were you doing this stuff before YouTube? Were you reading cards? As a hobby. I've been reading tarot since I was 12 years old because it was my way. Again, it's a visual medium. So like I struggle to learn languages. I struggle to learn a lot because I can't hear it. Tarot is a visual medium. So I was drawn to television and tarot because it's easy.

So it's like, it's a visual for me. So it was always a second language to me. Tarot has always been a second language to me. You said television and tarot? Yeah. Cause television is visual. So I love TV because it's a visual medium. Oh, interesting. So like I needed that visual as like a visual learner. So for me, tarot has always been a second language. And so I've been doing it since I was 12. And then I think I was on a live just chilling and someone saw my tarot cards and they were like, do you do readings? I was like, sure. And it literally blew up overnight. When did you start? Yeah.

Think it'll be seven years. Wow. It seems like you've been on longer. Yeah. Seven years ago. Wow. Oh my gosh. So like, wow. So what were you doing before? What was your job before? So right before I was helping take care of my dad, he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He passed away. It'll be almost 10 years. And so I was like, you know, trying to help take care of him and just doing like random jobs and like hating my life. And then when he passed, I was like, I'm going to chase my dreams. So I did.

And here I am with just Trish. I know. It's so weird. My Oscars. Yeah. You are so nice, by the way. You're so sweet. Everything about you, the energy has been so good. It was a whole thing because I'm always so scared to have someone like travel out here. As we know from the past, I'm always like trying to coordinate and stuff with everybody and make sure it has a good experience. I was like so nervous. I was like, hopefully he has a good experience.

- Oh my God, I love it here. I'm always here. - Yeah, I didn't know that about you. So was your dad, was he excited about what you did, like tarot reading? - No, I didn't really have a close relationship with him. - Okay, okay. - Which is hard. - So you were more inspired when he passed away 'cause you're just like, life is short, I just need to do this. - I think I appreciate my dad 10 years after his death more than I did when he was alive because I understand him more now that I'm older.

Yeah. So it's like bittersweet because I think we're very similar. He was like a clown, like a class clown type of person, very animated. And so I think for me, I get my sense of humor from him and my strength from him. And so I think looking back on it, I'm like, I kind of understand you a lot more now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. When you get older, you see parents in like such a different light. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, he's looking up at me. Do you believe in that as a psychic, like heaven and hell? No.

- Um, no, I think there's a spear roll. But my dad had a joke before, like he's always say like, "Oh yeah, when I die, I'm gonna go to hell, I already know, but I'm gonna dethrone Lucifer." - Oh. - So I always make the joke. - He's ruling down there. - Right, so I always make that joke in honor of him, but he also loved making people uncomfortable with jokes. - Yes. - So I love telling that dark joke because I'm like, "But my dad would have loved it." - Yeah, he's like, "Thank you." - So it keeps his memory alive. - Yeah. - That's why I also always like, like I'll randomly throughout the day be like, "Can you throw a brick up down there? Like hit a guy in the head for me." - Do you ever get signs? Do you ever get that?

Like a reaction? That he's there. Yeah. Or just in the world, not necessarily. I dream of him. But I get – there's synchronicities. I believe in synchronicities. Yeah. Which is like symbols. Like seeing signs and stuff. It's more like I was just thinking of something. I see something that reminds me of it. That's my go-to that I need to do it. Interesting. Yeah. That's – yeah. I just wondered because you were talking about – we were talking about also too – I don't know if it was on camera – off the portals and like spiritual world and stuff like that. So you do believe like –

I get not to go too deep, but like there's like souls, like there's like souls like floating somewhere that we can connect to or. So I don't know. I'm still like learning myself about what feels right for me and what I feel. But I definitely feel like there's some form of reincarnation where it's like a different part of our soul comes down. One that is still our soul and is familiar to us, but is like, it's

It's like us, but a different part of us. So we, as we know it, aren't reborn, but a part of us is. I feel like we're a part of a bigger soul. Yeah, I feel that way too. Like you do meet people, we're the psychic twins who always would tell people, oh, you were like Cleopatra in another life or something like that. I was like,

Well, I guess it could be possible. I just did a video on Cleopatra. It's weird you said that. Did you really? Yeah, and everyone was making a joke like, oh my God, reincarnated. Oh, that's so crazy. Wait, do you know? I don't know anything about her. I put you in the thumbnail too because you're iconic Cleopatra when you dress up as Cleopatra on TikTok.

- Oh, King Tut. - Yeah, well it's like, yeah, but it's close enough. - I was like, did I dress up? I do have dressed up as Cleopatra. I know nothing about her. What did you do? - I don't either. - Like a reading about, for her? - Trying to find out where she is, like her tomb. - Wait, what? Do people not know? - Her tomb is missing, yeah. That's like the whole thing is like no one can find Cleopatra's tomb. - And she was in fact a real person? - Yeah. - Oh, I don't know. What did she do? - I mean, I didn't really know either until I did the reading. - I feel like she was. What did she do? - She was a queen.

Egypt. Oh. Yeah. She ruled and there's like this whole thing where she had to like kill her siblings to get it and all this crazy stuff. And she did that. Queen. You know, it's kind of Illuminati of her. You know what I mean? Like who are you going to sacrifice? Honestly, she probably did create the Illuminati. Yeah. Cleopatra. She looks fierce. I don't know. I literally don't know anything about her. Would you ever join the Illuminati? Oh my God. We were just talking about this the other day. There was a – someone on TikTok.

And supposedly, allegedly, you think it's about David Dobrik, but I don't think. He said he was friends with the David. Most of the things with David Dobrik, I didn't get the vibe. I don't know. Maybe that they were basically influencers. Everyone who went to these parties became like so rich and famous after they went to these parties and they got invited. And he went and supposedly whoever the David was in the story, like did these like weird sacrificial rituals. And he became like this million. And he basically bowed out at that.

point and they came and like stalked him at his house or whatever, like this whole thing. So I think it's like real, but I was thinking about it because it just came up on TikTok the other day and I was like, no. Yeah. I feel like I would not be cool enough to be invited to Menotti. Yeah. Definitely not. I think I have too much like Jesus in me. I think they would like, you know, too much light, you know? Pure, pure energy. They don't like pure energy because they can't corrupt it. I think that's the truth. So I think both of us would not be invited because we have that same sort of, it's the pink. We're too skinny for them anyway. We're too skinny.

You are which is like so crazy when you're telling me about your body dysmorphia And I guess it just like affects everybody but literally our photographer is like what did he say? He's just like how do you say so skin skinny or something like that? It's like so you hear this stuff. You know you hear people say obviously they're not just saying that no one's calling me like you're too skinny So is it something that you just can't really compute in your head? I was a fat kid It's just like and I have so much trauma related to it. I physically cannot see what other people see. I

It's bad. But, you know, I'm better now. You feel better though, right? Oh, yeah. I'm way more confident in my 30s than I've ever been. I think I'm the hottest I've ever been. Like I love the 30s. I love the 30s too. I always tell people like that's the best. I hated my 20s. Like looking back, they were awful and I like love 30s. Have you ever seen the movie Bad Teacher with Cameron Diaz? Yes. Yes.

One of my favorite movies of all time. There's a scene at the end where she's like, that's so random for this reason, because she talks to one of the kids who's like the awkward outcast loser. And she goes like, this isn't your window. Like your window is going to be later. And he's like, oh yeah, probably college. She's like, probably not even then, like later. And she like tries to make him cool. And she like gives him her bra so he can be like cool to all the kids. But I always resonate with that because for me, it's like, that's,

how I felt as a kid like it's not even gonna be college it's after where I'm gonna shine in my 30s when I was a kid I would always say in my 30s it'll be great oh you knew I literally was notorious for saying not my 30s my 30s and it was true so that's why I really resonate with that scene I love that movie because I'm like I have to like rewatch I just remember her trying to buy like implants or something like stealing money to get implants I love Cameron Diaz so do you oh my god I'm a huge Cameron how funny

She was in iconic movies back when we were like. Charlie's Angels. That's true. You love that. What do you think about Drew Barrymore? I love Drew too. I love. Never been kissed. I used to watch her over and over and over again. Would you go on her. Have you been on her show? I feel like she has so many influencers. I wish. Drew invite me. Oh she would love you. Yeah. Would you love it if she like. Would you be okay with her all up in your space? I would love her. You love her. She could sit on your lap and you're like I love it. Josie Grossi like I'm. You don't understand. Josie Grossi anymore. I think I'd just cry. I did love Never Been Kissed. That was probably that and Romeo and Michelle were my two favorite. So.

So good. Although I'd be like, can we recreate dancing in the rain? Oh my gosh. She's like, the rain. She did one recently with the snow or something too. She's so wild. I mean, yeah, I have love hate with her. So I see those clips of her being so all over people. I'm like, oh God, I would like be so triggered, but. She can do whatever. I don't care. Okay. I love it. Have anphrodite on. Yes, manifest. Would you do more? Cause you were, we're talking and you don't do a lot of podcasts. So you don't mind talking about yourself. No, I love doing anything. I say yes to everything. Love that.

But I just feel like people don't like me. I don't know why. Why do you say that? Because everybody loves you. Like everybody loves you. It's probably the mental illness. I don't know. I think it is. I just literally assume everyone hates me until proven otherwise. I was shocked. Like I said, I mean Holly was just like, oh my God, I love you. I'm for daddy. We should do a thing. And I was just like, oh my God. That's like – so like I love you too but I just would never think like – Oh, thanks. You know, to me it's niche, right? It's like a tarot reading. You have to be into it. That's probably what it is.

It's like, I'm a little too niche. - No, but I don't think so. I think so many more people know you. And that was my point is like, I think so many people, you were on the billboard for Twitch, which I thought was so crazy in Times Square. How did that come about? - Well, they were doing a promotion for LGBT month, like pride month. And they asked me if I wanted to be a part of it. It was like a last minute thing. And so they're like, just submit a picture. So me, I had to get a whole photo shoot done. - Oh my gosh. - And then I submitted it and it was like, it actually, funnily enough, this is manifestation.

They didn't know when I was going to be up in the month of June and it went up on my birthday week. And because my birthday is June 7th, so it went up on that week and I had just turned 30. Wow.

Whoa. So it was like this big symbolism. That this is going to be your decade. Oh my God, June 7th. That was my, that was Elvis's original due date was June 7th and now it's got pushed up. It was June 7th and I was like, please not a Gemini, but it's fine. After meeting you, I was like, okay, it's fine if it's Gemini. We don't know, but could you imagine if it's June 7th? That'd be crazy. That could be Aphrodite. Elvis would have to become Aphrodite at that point. Honestly. Because I do love that name. That's cool.

It is great. I just never met a Gemini I liked until you, so you changed my whole perspective. Listen, I always try to tell people, like, I think Geminis get a bad rep because I think a lot of times the bad people stick out in our mind more than the good. Yeah, the two-facedness of it all. So you did it for pride. Was it, like, pink-themed or rainbow-themed? They did, like, a whole rainbow thing, but I was in pink, of course. If you're ever interested, I have a rainbow Birkin. Oh, my God, yeah. That's iconic. You cannot get rid of her. You literally can't get rid of her. Can we do a tarot reading on that? Will I ever sell? No.

Did you buy it that way or did you make that? Oh my God. I bought it that way and it's, I bought it for, huh?

No, they had it already made. So basically, as this person, she's sweet. She's Privy Porter. She's down in Miami. She's like the number one Birkin. Yeah, like gives Cardi B her Birkins. I always shout out. She always says thank you for the shout out, even though I'm always like, I wish I never spent this much money on Birkin. But shout out. She's really sweet. And basically, for Pride Month, they had this one. And I was like, oh, I want that for Pride or whatever. And I spent $48,000 on it. She sent me the original receipt.

of just the line bag before it was bedazzled. And it was $7,000. So now when people ask about it, they're like, do you have the original receipt? And I was like, yeah. And I show them, but I'm like, I swear this is not a scam. I show them the invoice and proof report. I'm like, I paid 48,000 for the customization fee.

I think that was my dumb move, but. But it's also so Trisha coded, like the entire thing that it's like, you can't get rid of it. Do you think it's ugly? No, I love it. You love it. But I'm also like, again, I told you with physical stuff, it's the memory attached. Okay. So for me, when I think of that, I, when I look at that, I always think of you. Like if I were to buy that and wear it, that's, I would be like, I'm Trisha Paytas for that. Okay. Okay. Like that's synonymous with your brand. Like I, I envision one day there's going to be like a museum of Trisha and that's

And that's going to be saying, and I think it's meant to be mine because it never, I remember, you know what? In the tea on that for real is I really was trying last year, this before the podcast, I really was trying to like just get money because I wasn't for a couple of years. I wasn't really making money in and I owed a lot in taxes. So I really was trying to like sell it and it wasn't selling. And then now I've gotten like offers on it, but I'm kind of like, nah.

I don't know. Maybe it's kind of me. It's kind of ugly, but I kind of like it. I don't know. There's something about her that just, she's kind of iconic. I don't know. Keep it. I love it. When you said pride, I'm like, let me get it. I'm like, June's going to be the month, but I think I'm going to up it now. It's going to be, you have to be like 500,000 or something. Well, yeah, because now it's too iconic. It's like, it's like TV show memorabilia. Okay. I love that. I love it. You're so, you're so optimistic in a lot of ways, which I like. Yeah. That's like a big thing for me, especially even with dating. Like,

I feel like Britney Spears has this quote in For the Record, one of the best documentaries of all time. So good. Where she says that every day she chooses to be happy. Yes. It's a conscious choice that she chooses to be happy. Very sedentary of her. But-

But that's literally – that quote is burned in my brain and that's what I'm choosing to do every day. And it's so real. And I know people with depression, anxiety, I've had it too. And I still have it sometimes. It's like they're like, okay, that's just so easy to say, to choose. But it's actually like easy to do if you're just like –

And this past week, everything went wrong in our life, like literally everything. And I'm like, no, like there's so much good, like everything this, like you just have to like make that decision that today is going to be a happy day. And it is like, it is annoying to hear, especially when you have depression. And sometimes I cry for no reason, but you have to flip it quick. You have to be conscious. I think for me, I get in that rhythm and then I'm like, once I'm in the rhythm, I'm good.

Yeah. But if I get out of the rhythm, I have to figure out how to get out of the funk quick. It's like a vibe, you know, a vibe thing for sure. And we're talking about the energies as like if you feel good, like you'll like radiate good. So, okay. So back to, so you decided to do YouTube. Right away you're doing tarot card reading. You're not doing anything else like vlogging or? No. Yeah. So I only recently got into vlogging and it's like casual.

I love it. You're good at it. You're like do a little minute clip here. Thanks. Yeah. I just want to have fun with it because it's like I just need like another creative outlet. I don't care if it makes money. Yeah. For me, I started doing readings for people and then people were like, oh, you should do celebrities. And I was like, do people care? And I was like, okay, I'll do it. Blew up.

Wow. What was the first one that went viral? James Charles tour canceled when I predicted Dramageddon like a month before. Wait, really? Oh, I didn't know about this. You predicted it? Yeah. So I was on like E, like E, whatever. They like played my shit on E and stuff. What did you say? Basically, I, it's like,

so weird when I watch it back. So I'm like so specific. It was like, and I had no idea who anyone was. Like I said, the only person I watched on YouTube was you. - Oh my God, love that. - So people who, anyone I learned about like from YouTube was through collabing with you. - Wow. - And none of those people had collab with you. - No, didn't know that at all. - Maybe Jeffree.

Oh, right. Cause I've known Jeffrey from like, um, the stick them days, like way back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Old school was like the little, everyone was on camera. Yeah. The, the live, the old school lives. Yeah. So he's been doing that since the beginning. Yeah. I love Jeffrey back then. It was like Jeffrey and then Johnny boy XO was big back then. Yeah. Oh my God. Wow. What a blast in the past. Yeah. So Kiki cannibal and all that. Yeah. So like that's my era. Scene kids. Yes. And so I knew him from that. And then, um,

But I didn't know any of the others and I literally had no idea who they were 'cause I was just starting out on YouTube and I had uploaded a video and it was a month before and then obviously someone found it and it blew up.

And I basically had just said like that his tour was gonna be canceled and all this crazy chaos was coming for him. And I described the people involved and stuff and it was super accurate. Wow. What gave you that? Like what, just the cards? You just were like, I'm gonna do a random reading. Yeah, I was just like, this is what I see. And this is, it treated it like as if the person was in front of me. Did you know why? Did you predict why it was gonna happen or you just couldn't really see that? Um, I did. I think, I think it's in the video. I, it's, it, that time period is so weird. There's so much people don't know. I got sucked into drama again and,

Yeah, I know everything that happened and nobody knows that. Wow. So it's an exclusive TV show. Wait, so what? So tell me. So like it happened and people were accusing you? Well, so I got accused of knowing people on the inside, of knowing prior knowledge. Meanwhile, I'm just like this weirdo kid in New York at the time who didn't know anyone, who just was like uploading YouTube and everyone was just like, oh, you must know someone. And then people were like screaming at me and then I got involved in the drama. How did you get involved? Like someone pulled you in, like an influencer? Well, everyone reached out to me and involved.

Literally everyone involved. All of them. They reached out to me and bawled. James? Some of them were very nice. Some of them were very not nice. Who were the nice ones? Jeffrey was very kind. Shane was very kind. Shane reached out to you? He was very kind. Was he in it? Later. He inserted himself in it. Oh, the second drama game. Oh, so you're part of both. Yeah. And so very kind, very sweet, very helpful.

What were they saying? Can you give any tea? No, just being supportive and kind, honestly. Just saying like, thank you? I was kind of shocked. Well, no, they were just like, you know, being there for me because like the stuff that was going on behind the scenes, very sweet. And it felt genuine. I love them. It was genuine. I know everyone has their own experiences. No, for sure. But the two of them helped, you know, sort of, I felt like they were protective of me, which was very sweet. And I felt very grateful because at the time I didn't know anybody and have anybody in my corner and I felt like they were in my corner. So I was really grateful for that. What were you feeling that they like comforted you?

Sorry. Well, I can't say too much except to be careful legally. But what I can say is that they- You felt threatened? Just in general, not by anyone, just in general. Yeah, I felt very backed in a corner. I felt threatened. I felt, yeah, and they were there for me, so. Okay. Yeah. And were you talking about this publicly? Like were you saying- This is the first time I've ever said anything about it, yeah. Okay. I mean, I feel like it's like long ago. People, it's good. I mean, do you feel, obviously you can edit out whatever. I always want you to feel comfortable. But like now looking back,

where you're like, oh man, it was really intense or looking back, are you like, okay, it was kind of just like a lighthearted thing or was it like intense? I mean, I still to this day don't really understand why I was so demonized. I don't really know what I did. I'm just so confused and we can cut out whatever again, we can cut out whatever you want but what,

What was it that you felt demonized? Like just the public or a specific creator? And again, you don't have to say, but is it like a creator? It was more like behind the scenes. Okay. So you felt threatened in some way. Yeah. Just like, you know, like I didn't have a lawyer. I didn't have anything to protect me. Mm-hmm.

I hate that. And these people are very successful and – Bullied. Yeah. Well, I don't know if I would necessarily use – that's maybe extreme. Just intimidated is probably the word I would use. And maybe that wasn't their intention, but that's how I perceived it. Yeah. I feel like back then too a lot of people were very – and probably still now if you're rich or have sort of any sort of power, you can like intimidate someone. Like I can get your YouTube channel taken away. I can sue you for this. I was just like – I know it was a hard time and everyone was going through stuff, but I was just like I don't have anyone in my corner.

corner like yeah there's nobody who just feels like I was stepped on and like chewed up and spit out so well Jeffrey and Jane are good people to have in your corner for that kind of stuff because they have both have money and they both helped people before like you know that didn't have it resources to like fight stuff so it was more like moral support I think then it wasn't like they were like giving me my thing no but yeah right right

but I'm sure they were very very very they helped guide me in that time yeah which was very sweet yeah I mean they definitely I was but that they didn't they didn't reach out to me until way after oh really yeah like probably like

I think it was like a year or two after the first. I think there's like, I think they have good hearts for sure. I mean, obviously I was friends with them for a reason and I think they have like good hearts, you know. I mean, I love them, but I know everyone has their own experiences. For sure. I try to judge people based off of how they treated me. As they should because everyone treats everyone so differently too. You know what I mean? Like people who treat me nice can be,

and vice versa. Everyone has their experiences. I think that's a good thing. I think that's a... I mean, I've met some people that are just wish I never met again. Yeah, you were telling me about some people that I feel like, oh, I like them. They're coming on. You're just like, oh, I don't know. Well, because... So, like, for me, like, obviously, like,

I never once thought people would watch it, but then like, especially people I do the videos on, but it's like, I think about it now, it's like a hairdresser who dresses, you know, does the hair for a celebrity is going to watch my video and show the celebrity. That's what happens. It's always like someone on their team shows a celebrity. Sometimes a celebrity will reach out and be very mean to me. Sometimes they're kind. Privately? Yeah. With email? I've had a couple of weird, yeah. Like, again, you don't have to mention name, but like, what do they say? What's like the worst one you've gotten or a weird one you've gotten? Um,

um hey i didn't really like your reading i don't think you know what you're talking about you should be careful what you say things like that yeah almost threatening or i've had people like pretend to be interested in me just so they can get my information to do a background check on me because they think there's a mole in their team that's happened to me three times oh what yes where like all of a sudden the celebrity will stop responding after i give my information i'm like oh my god really i have nothing to hide like what would you give them like your phone number like my name or whatever yeah stuff like that and i'm like i don't give a

Go ahead. I don't know anyone on your team. I wish I did. I'm not cool enough. Right, right. That's so interesting. But that's why I isolate myself because I don't know who to trust because I'm like, I'm just a weird kid. Like, not a kid, but you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, for sure. I think that too. I still think I'm like an 18-year-old. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I always tell people, I'm like, I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm stupid. Don't listen to anything I say because it's like, it kind of is. At the end of the day, it's like,

And if you look at yourself that way, not what you do, but just everything, you know, you just like keep it lighthearted. I think it's the best way to go. But that makes sense then why you're so – yeah, you protect yourself. You're introvert to protect yourself because it is scary out there. And I feel especially with what you do, especially online, you say for entertainment purposes only, but people can take it so seriously. Well, the thing is this is what I always say. Rich people can go to court and know they're going to lose and waste the money. I'm not rich yet. One day. Manifest. So they could take me to court for a stupid reason and still drain me of all my money.

And that is the worst thing about our legal system is just like whoever's richer wins. So I try not to get in legal battles with anybody or anything. But here's the thing. I've always – I'm the first person who's like, you want me to take down a video? I'll take down a video. Oh, you will. But they don't want to. Oh. They don't want that. They just want to like, you know. Bully. Yeah. Intimidate. Intimidate. Yeah. And I'm like – Do you ever respond –

What do you mean? Like publicly? Yeah. Like do you ever talk about it? No. Because for me it's just like if you're not interested in it, I'm not going to be around it. No negative energy. I don't want to like create drama for views or anything like that. I'm not that type of person. I'm a very drama-free person. So it's like I can't – That's what I was going to ask then. How do you keep it positive? Like you are always positive. Like I don't think of you as drama at all. I always think, oh, positive and pink and fun. I try to be. I just –

People who hurt me or who say crazy things, whatever, I just don't read them anymore. Yeah. That's it. Just block it out. Yeah. And if people ask, I just ignore it and pretend I don't read it. And how often are you filming your videos? I try to upload three times a week on YouTube. Okay. So you give yourself like a day off. Kind of. What do you mean? I feel like, you know, when you're creative, you're always on. Yeah. Yeah. Constantly wanting to create content and stuff. And are you mostly like creating content solo or do you have people around you that help? No, it's just me.

I do everything myself. Emails, everything is me. Wow. I wish I had a team. Really? Shout out agencies. Yeah. I feel like with representation, it does kind of go into what you're talking about as like having that TV show. Yeah, that's what I want. Because those were so – did you ever watch them as a kid? Yeah. Who was the one with the glasses? He was on Oprah. Was it John –

Oh, you're talking about the medium? Oh, is he different? Yeah. He talks to dead people. Oh, okay. I was thinking of him. I forget his name. Yeah. He was like on Oprah or who's the one with the blonde hair? Sylvia Brown on Montel. No. Oh my God. But love. Wait. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, everything. I love that you know that reference.

She's kind of like New Jersey. She's like really Jersey and she has like big buns. Oh, Teresa Cabuto. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Long Island medium. She's in, oh, God. Okay. They're all mediums. That's what I'm saying. But for me, here's my thing, okay? I feel like when it comes to the psychic space, okay? Everyone is older. I'm younger. I feel like I relate more to Gen Z. They're always trying to get Gen Z to watch TV. Interesting. Get him on.

And also, I feel like tarot is a lot more fun than just like someone being like, your grandma's here. You know what I mean? Like, I can do more games with it. There's more merchandise potential. I feel like. Oh, for sure. Especially your aesthetic is just like so fun and different. Because there is that boy on E. He's like young. He looks young. Tyler Henry. Yeah. But he's also a medium, right? He's a medium. Yeah. So they need like a tarot for it. And it'd be so fun because at the end of the day, tarot is fun. You said you get hired for like events and stuff like that. And us too. And we have a Halloween party. We always bring a tarot reader. People are always sitting there because it's just like.

it can be interpreted in so many ways, like you said, and it's just kind of fun to like know, you know, or at least have a feeling or a guide. Like I got so hyped after our reading because I was just like, oh my gosh, this makes sense. Or even with Holly, stuff you mentioned we had talked about in the interview and I was just like, oh, this makes sense, you know? So I think it gets people hyped. And

It almost is like a double manifestation. You're telling them – you're telling me there's something – you're going to be taken seriously. And I was like, okay, now I believe that about myself. Yeah. It's good. I mean it's fun. And even if someone doesn't believe, at least it's entertaining. You know what I mean? Yeah. At least it wasn't like boring. Yeah. The medium stuff can be – I mean I love it and it's all over TV. But yeah, you're right. There's never been a tarot card reader. I think there was –

Chloe. Miss Cleo. Miss Cleo. Yeah, Miss Cleo. A long time ago, but she was a fraud. Was she? Allegedly. Was it alleged or did it get confirmed? I don't know. I love Miss Cleo. She'll call me now if we have free reading. I love that. Oh my God, you could do that. I would love it. Would people call, but it wouldn't be free then, right? They charge you by then. I don't think it was free back then. Really?

- I doubt it. - Wasn't it probably like $8 a minute or something like that? - Probably. - Have you ever done that? - And you know that probably all went to the network. It probably wasn't Ms. Cleo that was pocketing that. - Oh my God. That would be great. I would love to see you on late night, like midnight after Jimmy Fallon. - Oh my God. Well, it's funny. Years ago, I wanted to be like Andy Cohen, like where he does like his little interviews with like the housewives. I think that'd be great on Bravo. - Oh yeah, you wanna be like housewife? - I think that would be great housewife. - Oh my God, that'd be great. - If they ever did like a show with gays, I feel like I'd be great on there.

I'm surprised they don't because Bravo is like so – I think it's because it might be too niche. Right. They had the real gays of Hollywood. Do you remember that? Yeah. The real gay friends or something? Yeah. I think those people were a little too like LA, like – Not real enough. Yeah. That is weird. Bravo is so gay friendly. You think they would have something like that? Maybe they will manifest. Maybe it will happen. Yeah, Bravo. Oh my god. They need a psychic. They need a psychic. I would love it. I love –

I mean, I'd love any network to be honest. Oh my God. That would be amazing. Or you could just do like psychic readings. Yeah, me too. Actually, I had a meeting once with a network and they told me that I was too young. And I literally was like too young because I guess they didn't really know how old I was. Oh, they see you. They just said like, oh, you're too young, which is crazy. So I was like, there are housewives that are younger than I am. Wait, really? I thought they all had to be like 40s. No, some of the Jersey housewives are like my age. Oh.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't watch it. Do you watch them? I never watched the housewives. So you're like into all of that. Some of them. Okay. Do you watch Beverly Hills? Not really anymore. It's boring to me, but I like Jersey cause I'm Italian. Okay. And you're from, you said you lived in New York. Are you from there? Yeah. Born and raised. And then I moved to Austin because I needed a change. Oh, are you in Austin by yourself then with no family? Yeah. But I moved to Austin and so my video blew up.

and the James Charles video blew up the week I was moving to Austin. So it was a sign. - Wow, yeah, you're like, okay, you're going in the right direction. - But I love living in Austin because it's in the middle. So it's like three hours to New York or three hours to LA. I'm here all the time. So it's like perfect. - I think that's why Matt Rife says he lives in Texas 'cause he's like local to all his shows. So he can just fly around and stuff like that. - I can't wait to see him.

He really got canceled. I never believe in cancellation, but sometimes I'm like, I think you can get canceled. I don't feel bad for pretty people. I'm sorry. I just don't. No worries. He's so hard. Misogynistic too. Any of those people, I'm just like, no, you're good. I always kind of forget him. I was like, yeah, why did he get canceled? And then I watched something. I saw Brittany Broski on Theo Vaughn. Actually, he said he hate women and I was like, oh yeah, this is why we hate him. His shows are still sold out. Oh, are they? Because people love him because he's pretty. Pretty privileged. Pretty privileged. It's a real thing.

real thing well you have it you're pretty I think that's what you know but I think so because I not that you're not entertaining you're funny you have a great thank you stick but you also like cute so thank you I was like okay yeah I had this discussion the other day I feel like you'll get it I'm cute I'm not hot

And I like that about me. But I think that's like, I think pretty privilege is for hot people. Do you know what I mean? Because I feel like for me, I think when it comes to attraction, I think most of it is my personality. I feel like I'm very warm. I don't think so. Really? I don't think so. I think you are. You're very tall. You're Italian. I'm not tall. You are. You have like a tall demeanor. Are you not? I have tall energy, but I'm like 5'9". That's tall.

tall. No, it's not as average. Okay, well, you don't know the short people out here. They're like, that's like 5'5", 5'6". Like, 5'9'' is tall to me. If you're a 5'9", that's tall. Well, you have tall energy then. I do. Because I really was like, oh, you're tall. When people meet me, they're like, I thought you'd be so much taller. I'm like, I'm intimidating. Wait, that's crazy. I thought you were, and you're really, like, broad. I have broad shoulders, yeah. Yeah, so you look at, and you just look Italian. You just look like... Oh, thanks. I don't know. I feel like, I feel like it is, I feel like, yeah, you have, like, maybe a little dysmorphia there because... Oh, bad. I think when people look at you, they think, oh, you look like so...

I know who you look like. Patrick Swayze. Is that who people say? Sometimes, yeah. No. Did someone tell you someone else? Because I know exactly who you look like this whole time I've been looking at you. And I couldn't think of his name. Eric Bana. Who the hell is that? Okay. He was in this. He was in a big movie. I'll tell you in a minute. But he was in this show called Dirty John. You never saw it? No. You know? Yeah. Eric Bana. He was the original Hulk before Mark Ruffalo. Oh.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, literally. I kept looking at him and I was like, oh my God, yeah. And this show called Dirty Donalds I'm obsessed with. It's like true crime, whatever. It's scripted and he plays this crazy killer, but he's so hot and she's drawn to him. He's like this rich doctor and that's who you're giving me the vibes. Okay, mood. Yeah, look him up. I'm really gonna look him up. Because I was like, wow, you really look like somebody and that's who it is, yeah. And he's so hot and so gorgeous. So I do think you have the hot energy. I thought you were gonna say Beyonce. Beyonce.

People have been telling me that. She posted a new selfie today. I was like, this looks like you. I was like, love that. I know. That was iconic. If I go on Love is Blind, I'll be like, people say I look like Beyonce. Would you watch those shows? No, I don't. Why don't they have gay people on there? It's so weird. That's what I mean. I feel like the last kind of show like that I ever watched was when you were on Celebrity Big Brother. Oh my God, 2017? Yeah. That long ago? Yeah. Wow. I just...

I don't know. It's just not a big thing. We've known each other for so long, I feel, just energetically. Well, I've always, I said I always loved you because you're authentic. Oh, my gosh. And I feel like I'm always drawn to authentic people. And that means a lot coming from you as you can read people and energy. Yeah. Because, you know, I never know. Sometimes I'm like, maybe people call me fake. Sometimes I'm like, am I fake? I don't know. You never know. You never give me that vibe. Okay, good. I don't think so. But, you know, you hear it sometimes and you're just like, I don't know. I think, here's my thing. I think a lot of times, this is what I've always said.

when it comes to people who are convincing like on camera a lot of times they're usually the ones you need to watch out for like right isn't it the narcissist always has a ton of friends and is really popular David O'Brick

Period. Period. And she said what she said. I just never said it. But no, but like, you know what I mean? So I always think about that. I'm like, I'm not very good at being convincing because I'm a truth teller and truth tellers are easy to make out to be the villain. You're the same. You're a truth teller. So it's easy to make you a villain. Right. But like, I always try to tell the audience, like if somebody is like perfect and super likable, you need to watch out for them. Yeah. Think about all the people in your life that like did horrible things to you that were narcissistic.

They were probably really likable and had a ton of friends, right? True. They don't show behind the curtain. Right. Interesting. Yeah, I feel like that's very true. And especially on social media, you do see so much like perfectionism and just happiness. I'm like, okay, someone can't always be like that. They're not ever. The veil always gets lifted on it for sure. What's the biggest misconception people have when they meet you about either being a psychic or just you in general? Um,

Well, I think sometimes people are like worried that I'm like reading them, whatever. And I'm like, I don't like, I kind of like can turn it off. Right. But I think I'm just intimidating as a person, even when I was younger. Like that's how I've always gotten is like, you know, it went from, I hate you because you know, you're different. Then I got strong inner, like my inner strength. And then it's like, oh, you're intimidating. I'm scared of you. So I think a lot of times people are scared of me when I think I'm just like a lovable goofball, but I just have a hard exterior. Yeah. Like a hooker with a heart of gold. Yeah. Yeah.

A heart of pink. Yes. That's where your aura is very pink. Do you see the color auras? Have you ever gotten into that? Sometimes, but rarely for me. I don't know what it means. I just always think like a pink aura is a happy aura. Yeah. Well, it's like, I think it's like all the chakras, they mean something different. Oh, I don't think there's a pink chakra. There is, I think. I have a chakra thing up in my psych. Oh, I should take you up there. Maybe it's red. I don't know. No, it's red. Because we have that chakra thing. There's no pink on it, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. We have ours upside down, by the way. I see red. Oh.

Someone's like, it's upside down. I'm like, oh, okay, sorry. Well, I know it's like brown is like the base or something. I know green is the heart. Green is the heart? Yeah, heart chakra. Oh, I didn't know. What are chakras? I actually really don't know. They're like parts of your body, I think. I don't actually know the definition, to be honest. They radiate or do you know a chakra? You know what it is? Points of energy. Yeah. Each one has, it's like our key types. Each one has a specific energy. Energy.

A heart energy. I love green because green is also like a money color. Like all the crystals are always like, you know, money based. I'm very like, well, I'm a Taurus. I'm very like, I love money. I love making money. I love like the idea. It's not like drives me, but I'm like good at it. I'm so bad at that. Gemini. I'm bad at money. I'm just like, okay, whatever. You don't care. You're just like, whatever it is. I'm like someone checks constantly my bank account, money coming in. I'm always like picking this. I couldn't tell you what's going on there. Wow. I just like experiences. So I'll just say yes or do things because I think it'll be fun and entertaining.

So what drives you to work? I always wonder that with people who don't care about money. I'm like, why do you work then? Meeting new people. Okay. Even like in my tarot, like every day, like finding out new things. Also tarot for me, like it's challenging. I'm still learning stuff. So doing a tarot reading, something new, something challenging. I see. I just like the experience. That's a good way to be though. I need to be more like that. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes I do need to be more analytical about it, but I'm just like, I want to have fun and I just want to connect with authenticity and meet cool people.

Interesting. So you're definitely extroverted that way. Yeah. And you like to be around people. It's just more of like a protection thing to keep away. I'm really good with people. I just make sure I choose who I'm good with. I know you said you had friends here in LA. I'm like, I don't even have friends here in LA and I live here. Well, I think for me, it's like, there's always like that level of friendship that you have. Like some people are super close. Some people are just like here, whatever. And then people can graduate when you gain trust with them. It's kind of how I've learned to navigate my friendships. Okay. Yeah. So it was like different levels of

friendship. Who's the level out here you're hanging out with this week? Some of my friends from Austin are coming into town. Yeah. Cause they want to like celebrate. Cause they know how much this meant to me. I didn't even know. Like I didn't know all this. I would have done like a more big to do. I had no idea. Are you kidding me? This is more than enough. But they were just like happy for me and like they wanted to celebrate. So a few of them are flying in. One of them was already here for a different event. And then I have a couple of friends who I've known for years here. So they're like,

pretty up there oh my gosh okay so they're like close friends with you you just have such a good like light and like everything around you like your energy even in person I remember the first time we met it was such good energy and then like now when you walked in I was just like oh and you're so you have good energy you have that bubbliness to you too where it's just like intoxicating like it's just one of the I like really low energy at the beginning of this day I was taking my iron pills I was taking prenatal and then Holly had a really high energy and then you had a really high energy and I was like wow this is like and now I

I feel like, I don't know if it's because we had sugar cookies or what. No, you definitely, you definitely energy spiked. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I was just like, I don't know. I have, we have the cookies and all of a sudden I'm like, Oh, this is so exciting. And it's like being with you too. I just think you're so like, uh, down to earth, which you wouldn't think again, just in general, you just, you really have blown up and do so much things. And I'd love to hear that you're driven by just connection, which I think is like so important. Yeah. What's one of your biggest manifestations for you personally or career wise? Um,

TV show. Well, I want my own show. Yeah, obviously. It's going to happen. Done. Proper representation to help me. Yeah. I think that's a big one. Yeah. I think love would be nice. Like I said, that would be great. But also, I kind of just want to challenge myself. Like I want challenges. Yeah.

What kind? Like creative challenges. Okay. Like throw me into something I've never done before. Like I'll never forget one time at a Twitch con a couple years ago. They're like, do you want to host an event? I was like, I've never done it. They're like, okay, we'll throw you. They threw me into a game of Family Feud. Okay. Gave me a microphone and said wing it and I killed it.

really i got off the stage after i did it was a live audience and it was streamed to thousands and thousands of people i get off of the stage and the guy this guy like walks up to me he's like wow you're really good like i like represent people who host stuff like you should do it more often i was like just like a one-time thing but like i just love doing things i would never do but you talked about hosting a couple times and i think that's such a like that's a really like rare thing most people want to be like an actor or something to be want to be like a host and be good at it it's like very like

Because I like learning about people. I just don't. And people feel comfortable around me. Yeah. And that's a big thing. Right. So it's like, why not? And also, I don't know. I just like to riff with people. I think it's fun. Yeah. Like improv. No, and you are. Like, I feel like you can just talk to anyone about anything. Conversation doesn't matter what it's about. Like, you just have that gift, which is not easy for a lot of people to do. That's because when I was a kid, I was busy talking to my stuffed animals. I had no friends. Really? So I was practicing. Yeah. I used to do that, too. I used to talk to walls. I was pretending I was on the Tyra show. Tyra! Yeah.

Why that one? I don't know. I was obsessed with that show. What? It was just weird. The talk show? Maury. Yeah, Maury. I loved Maury. Jerry Springer and Tyra was like the trifecta. I loved Jerry Springer. Yeah. Well, back even before then, I loved Ricky Lake, Sally Field, Jenny Jones. Oh my God. Ricky Lake, RuPaul's talk show. Watched that as a kid. I never watched that one. I did with my brother. On daytime? It was nighttime, I believe. Oh, I never saw. He had a talk show just like with Ricky Lake. Yep. Oh my God. I loved them. I wanted to be Ricky Lake because she was a little like chubbier on TV and I was like, well, I want to be that person. You've been on one of those, haven't you?

Yeah, I was going to say. I'm like, for sure. But that's not the iconic one to me. To you. I was like, I don't know. She didn't remember my name. She thought I had a daughter at the time. She was just all over the place. Love it. Yeah. Iconic. When we were doing our photo shoot out there, you're like, this feels like a Miracle's Next Top Model. I was like, okay, Tyra fan over here.

Are you a Tyra Stian? No. I think she's cool, but I'm like, I think for me it's just that that era is like my childhood. Right. So it's very nostalgic. Yeah, she was. You know, she was kind of a queen. And even looking back, I'm kind of like, she's kind of iconic. I love that she didn't know my name. I was like, she has a talk show and I couldn't care less about what was coming on. That's kind of iconic. Yeah, no, it's everything. I was like, yeah, I guess why would I bother to get to know someone? Well, you're our new Wendy now.

Oh my God. Well, that's the best manifestation. I do love Wendy Williams. I really, she's so real. I wish I could be real like that. I think you are. I don't think I can be that real. Where you just like say like. Well, she was like, she was multiple years into radio by the time she did that. So you'll get there. Maybe by the time I'm 50, I won't care. I'll just be like, I'll say whatever I'm going to say. Do a little fart burp. Which I think she's great. Which is why I always built these chairs. I was like, oh, but you know what? I built them to make me look small. And now I just feel like humongous in these. No, I love these. I literally was like, I can't wait to sit in them and look skinny. I know. I can't wait.

- It does, you look so cute in it. I love it 'cause our vibes just go so well together, the pink on pink. What is one thing that people would be surprised to know about you? - Oh, oh my God. I think people think like, oh, you have everything figured out. But I think for me, I fly by the seat of my pants. Like I'm not a very analytical person where I'm like trying to fit everything. I think I just am really good at making quick decisions. - Wow. - So like everything for me is more impulsive.

Like I'm a very impulsive person. I go on his podcast and I get bullied for an hour. I feel like he low-key would love you. Does he still have the podcast? Do they have new episodes? I don't watch his content. I wouldn't know. He just looks hot. Yeah, I just look at him and go, wow, you're beautiful. I kind of live for that though. It's not that deep for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not watching the WWE or anything like that? No, but I was obsessed with it as a kid. Really? Well, you should watch it. He's a wrestler now. He's actually so good at it. I'm good.

I don't like wrestling, but he's really athletic. No, that's why I like him because he's like really acrobatic. Yeah. He can like do splits and stuff. Yeah, it's actually like crazy. I'll watch it sometimes. Like I said, I'm not a stand-by. I'll watch it and I'll show him. I'll be like, this is crazy. No, I always wanted to be a gymnast when I was growing up. Oh. Fun fact, okay. I begged my parents to be a gymnast, but they said, no, it's not for boys. So I never got to. I'll tell you a really sentimental story. I'll give you a good little emotional moment. So I got invited to a birthday party and it was at a gymnastics place and it was all girls and me.

Should have known then I was gay, right? Yeah. And so I was like, it was like maybe like second grade, okay? And my mom had dropped me off because she had work. So I was the only kid by myself. And all the parents were like, they're like moms. They were like, oh, he shouldn't be here. Why is a boy here? Why is a boy here? Remember, like this is way back in the day. I was born in 91, so.

So they were like, "Boy shouldn't be here, boy shouldn't be here." And we were lining up and it was like a gymnastics thing. So I was like so excited 'cause I always wanted to do the splits. I always wanted to be in gymnastics. I wasn't allowed. I wanted to be a cheerleader. I wasn't allowed. So they were all doing this and I was waiting in line and it got to be my turn. There was like a plexiglass window and I was looking through the plexiglass window and I was like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna be able to do a split and like a tumble." And I remember the moms behind us were lined up and they go, "I don't think he should be here. I'm very uncomfortable. He shouldn't be here. No boys should be here." And they were all talking. And I remember turning around and looking at them,

turning and looking at everyone and being like, am I not supposed to be here? And it's made me second guess myself. They're like, oh, and it's your turn. Do you want to go in? I go, I don't feel good. And I sat down. Oh my God.

That breaks my heart so much. And it's like, it's a core memory for me and it might be a sad one, but I draw strength from it. But, because it teached me to never do that again. Yeah, to not just do it. And also, but it's also very important for like parents to hear things like that because they really do affect children. That small quip affected me my entire life. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So, things are better now. Yeah. But it's, yeah, I think now, like you said, those,

You know, your age is becoming parents. Now, you know, not to, you would never say that to a little girl or a little boy or whatever. And that's what's, and it is a beautiful thing for our daughter's birthday party. It was all Malibu Barbie theme. And we had probably six boys and five girls and the boys were just loving Barbie. The,

moms and parents and dads they would take pictures of them with their Barbie watches or their Barbie mermaid and like it's his first Barbie he loves it and it was like so wonderful you know they're six it's like you don't know sexuality at that age or whatever and they were just so supportive of them like playing with Barbies and I thought that was that's probably why I like pink so much because I was not allowed it as a kid really no Barbies no nothing

nothing yeah oh it's just so weird i was just playing with my pink power ranger oh well that's so funny my music producer who were talking about the damn i look good song he wrote he loves the power rangers and he was like obsessed with like the pink power ranger too but yeah he was he always would tell me he's like damn i look good as the one well maybe we'll have to if we do a video you have to come out for it oh my god trisha damn i look good is like my favorite song ever i still listen to this day he was singing it outside i was like

No, I, first of all, I listen to all your music still, but damn, I look good is a song I play for the gays. All of my gay friends. I play it at parties. They go, what's this song? It sounds so good. Is this like, and that's why I said, she's like, is it like Slater or something? I'm like, it's Trisha. Best compliment ever. Yeah, it's Trisha. And they're like, what? And they put it all on their playlist. That's an old school one. Oh my gosh. We'll have to do an outro of it. Bring that one up, babe. Damn, I look good. So when we do the outro, we can like party out to it. I always.

I always love to play my, like, it's so nice that you say that because I did put so much work. It's called Damn, I Look Good. We'll do it at the outro. Red flags, revenge, damn, I look good. I mean, that's crazy. The freaky remix that you made, the like rock or whatever. The sad boy one. Yes, yes, yes. I love that one. That's literally so nice. You literally hype me up so much. You have, you're so wonderful. And I hope that you know how wonderful you are. Oh, thank you. In every way. Like, I just am even more, one that you came out all this way. I was so like.

But to just all your insight, your talent, everything about you. I mean, you are literally a star. You have the talent. You have the beauty. You have the brains. You have the kindness and the humbleness. And I hope you never lose that. I'm going to cry. I can't cry. You're just wonderful. And you have so much strength and so much just goodness in you. And I hope that you keep telling stories about you because I think it's so inspirational. You know, people just don't know a lot of this stuff. And I feel like you could teach so many people. And I think for you, too, it's good. Yeah, no.

you're so wonderful in every way oh my god you're cold I'm always cold I run cold literally all the time no you're just you're so so so amazing and I'm so happy we could connect again and I hope that we can connect again and truly when you come out let's do another tarot reading and if there's a guest on we'll do tarot readings I think it's like so much fun and just see each other again soon alright should we play it DJ let's play it hit it hit it see if you know the words I like this song too I love this song love it is it

Can you hear it? Should I bring it over here? In the mirror, take a picture. Perfect mirror. Thinking that I'm a winner. Hey, hey, hey. Sipping Pellegrino. Walking out in Valentino. Spending chips like a casino. I can pay. Be who you are. Little love, you're a star now. They can never take that shit away. Oh, I already know it. Even if you got a hoopty, pull up to the Maserati. Like you're inside a Bugatti. Hey, hey, hey. Yes!

Ooh, I'm feeling myself. Ooh, you're feeling yourself. Ooh, we're feeling ourselves. And I can't help it, staring at me. I look good. This is kind of a bop. I told you. Damn, I look good. Damn, I look good. Damn, I look good. Damn, I look good. Hold up.

I think we need a breather, this boy is hot for teacher. I can compete with every feature. Booty and a thick waist, boobies in your damn face.

That's so funny. The gays love that. Oh my God. That was amazing. Thank you so much. You are everything. I hope you get everything. I know you're going to get everything that you manifested and wished for. And you're wonderful. And I can't wait to see you again. Everyone check out Amphrodite everywhere. YouTube, streaming, and just being an overall great person. Thanks for having me. I love you. Mwah.