Addressing the Drama With Tana & Brooke + Trisha's Secret Revealed...
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Ooh, I'm all, that's my career is that's dodging and just jumping from ship to ship. Were you booted from a ship or did you jump? Self-evacuated, self-evicted, yeah. Her name is Trish, she's got the fish and all the gossips, filthy rich, pretty in pink, hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks, she's just Trish.

Hello and welcome to another spooktacular edition of Josh Trish, your favorite Halloween podcast.

where we talk about nothing spooky or scary. Actually, we do talk about some spooky guys. There's a lot of spooky guys. That's very true. So kind of on brand. Lots of jump scares. Kind of on brand, that's for sure. We dress up all month long in October. I mean, kind of throughout the year. If you're into cosplay, this is the podcast for you. Although today, the cosplay is not hitting, and we'll explain that later. Today's episode, we have...

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Love both of these. They'll be full ad reads. Skip to the 20 minute, skip to the 30 minute mark. They're not to be missed. They're my favorite part of the show, to be honest. We love you, Kickoff. We love PDS debt solutions. And they're wonderful. We also have a very exciting announcement. Do I do the announcement now or should I talk about the costumes first? Where do we go? Where do we go? Maybe costumes first because I feel like you got me how to get it out of the way, right? The costumes? I feel like there's so much to dissect with these.

I feel like there is a lot. There's only one dinosaur today, Psyched, over here. Oh, yeah. Which is kind of alligator vibes, giving crocodile vibes for sure. You know, they're relatives.

Oh, wait, you did say they're related. Yeah. It's so wild to see you in that. I love it. It's so, like... Okay, with the witch costume last week, the knockoff, like, Alphaba, like, you know, Brian Jordan Alvarez, like, who is from English Teacher, like, he's... That show I was telling you about. Oh, yeah. He's the creator, star, director, even, I think. He, like, re...

Clip the video of like us talking about it and of course he's like such a hot guy and then it cuts to me as a witch and I'm like damn Oh I thought about that for you I did I want to say something because like I love someone who can be It's such an awkward person who doesn't know if I should tell you if you have something in your teeth or not you know You're like you have something on your nose Well look

I've never wanted to like shoot down someone's creative ideas, you know? I was like, if that's the direction, go for it. But I did think about that. I was like, what if someone's watching this? Like, what's his, Brian Alvarez? Or Jonathan, I wasn't even wondering if Jonathan Bailey's watching. Do I want to look, you know? So, like someone who's not afraid to be like, not hot, you know? You're like, let me just make myself a little less attractive today. I don't mind it. I didn't mind it, but I did think about that when they clipped things. I didn't mind it in the moment, but then seeing it clipped, I was like,

And then so I feel like this is another one. We're looking at the costume options. And I was like, of course, I'll be like this Lee dinosaur. Like that is so camp, you know? And then now I'm like, wait a minute. This looks great. For real. When I saw you walk in, I was like, actually, this is like so cute. Like this is adorable. Cute. I feel like Brian Everett will cast you in the next season as a dinosaur. I think this is, this is camp. This is cute. It's, it's giving like when hot guys try to be funny. That's what you're giving, you know? I,

I love it. I saw you. I was a little scared. It was giving like, I don't know if you'll get the reference, but Meghan Trainor, when she was a guest host on RuPaul's Drag Race, she was wearing a onesie. I'm like, is it that? But, you know, it's fitting. At least you both are also, you know, on the theme. So that helps. Well, the theme is cheap, awful Halloween costumes. Sorry, Spirit Halloween. This is not a brand deal for you. Or we got it from Halloweencostumes.com. Cheap, cheap, cheap.

I'm a cosplayer and I feel like once this gets clipped. They're like wow that was your Jurassic Park like you know and it's yeah I feel like I look like him. That's exactly what it looks like in the movie. You actually are kind of giving Yeah, you pull it off. Yeah, but because you like just look like everybody, but I think anyone else would not look like that. Well, nobody looks like a dinosaur. Well, we're not dinosaurs. We're humans. Have you seen the park?

Yeah. Have you seen Jurassic Park? Yes. The original. Uh-huh. Every Jurassic movie. Oh. I love Jurassic Park, actually. Oh, wait. I couldn't tell you anything about the plot other than there's dinosaurs, but I love them when I watch them. Oh, okay. I thought you didn't because Isaiah was in here and our photographer was spilling the lore. He was quoting lines. Yeah. He's like, do you have Jell-O? Do you have ice cream? I'm like, Jell-O?

Do you want some? I literally had no idea what he was talking about, but we love Isaiah. He will be here on October 31st. He will be in our Hungers Cunning Games cosplay, and we'll have a little interview with him because he's wild. He's like literally, I always say this, like the nerdiest person. Like you wouldn't think it. He looks like a tall, like, you know, athlete, like, you know, but he's like so nerdy, knows all these like nerdy things. And yeah, he loves Jurassic Park, I guess, apparently. He's like, finally, a costume right now. I was like, what? This is so random. Well, I wanted to be Rosie O'Donnell today. My wake has not come in yet. So we're going to be Rosie in November. Yeah.

that's what she fits in and I think she could cosplay anytime honestly so yeah last minute like literally we had to get costumes I will say this about Halloweencostumes.com they do overnight shipping so I guess take that but in a pinch yeah mine came with the full pants shirt shirt thing yours didn't come with pants you just had the shirt I guess the hat and the bandana made up for your costs yeah I don't know why there were no pants

It was odd. I guess thank God you had them. Mine's a 1X and they were a little tight. I guess just these show that we're Jurassic Park. That's how you know. I love it. It's the most simple costumes. Do they have the Hak Tua costume? Does it have a badge? That's what Oscar said. He was giving Hak Tua. Just a name badge. An outfit with a badge. Just so you know who I am. Yeah, I mean the badges are a slay but they definitely weren't wearing them in the movie because I went to Google. The scenes were in and I was like this is definitely not it. Um...

Anyways, I don't know. I like Jurassic Park. I don't know. I don't like it. Did you choose it for Jonathan Bailey? That was my theory. That's what I... I mean, for me, that was like... For me, that was a given. I thought that was the only reason. Well, we're not the Jonathan Bailey ones. I would have dressed as them. I did it in honor of Jonathan Bailey. I thought that was Jonathan Bailey. Oh, no.

No, but shout out Jonathan Bailey. Go see Jurassic World. Is it called Jurassic World? I forget what it's called. Jurassic something. Jurassic Empire. I think... Is it? Oh, no. That was Jurassic World Empire. Strike back. I don't know. Oh, okay. Well, go see the Jonathan Bailey one. That's the one I care about. Well, unfortunately, I did look up the picture of him being hot in the glasses and Scarlett Johansson's not wearing pink. I had to go with whoever wore pink because there were so limited pink costumes and I was like, I don't know who wears pink.

And this was what came up. I typed in like pink Halloween costume on Hollywood, or maybe pink on hollywoodcostumes.com. And like, this was one of the first ones that came up. But we love Jurassic Park. Jeff Goldblum is in the new Wicked, which he was in the original Jurassic Park. So I guess it's a full, I guess it could have been him too. I was trying to think of three characters. I did give, just so everyone doesn't think I made Oscar be like a dinosaur. I did say you could be the guy too. I gave you the option. Yes, you did. I was like, whatever you don't want, I'll have Moses be the guy. So don't think it's nepotism here where I'm like, we're going to be the cool guy.

Okay, you chose the dinosaur. There was a gay dinosaur? Yeah, it was like, I don't even know how to describe it. It was like a little romper, like really short shorts, like bulge out and then just like a dinosaur hat. And he was posing like this on Halloweencostumes.com, which was kind of crazy. I don't know if he was really gay. I hope so. But I would love to interview him. I would love to. What happened in that shoot that he's like,

It'll be gay. Was it a specific, was it just sexy dinosaur? What was it? Do you remember what it said? I forgot what it said. Should I check? I sent you a screenshot. Yeah. And I was just like, I'm shocked you didn't pick that one because you love a short shorts moment. After the Deadpool one, that was like so tight that I'm like, I kind of need to like have something a little, with a little bit more give. Confete.

This is giving, though. I really love the dinosaur. Oh, your screenshot doesn't say the name. It's just the photo. Oh, okay. There it is. Jimmy will insert it. Yeah, we'll have to think. I think it was like sexy dinosaur or something. But why did they make him do that? Maybe that was his choice. We do have to look at the bottom of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was wild. It was a cute costume. I love it. Yeah. I feel like this probably would have been better for our little TikTok dance that we did last week. Because it was, A, it's like a lot colder today. We were kind of like sweaty and winded. It was hot. Yeah. Yeah, that was wild. But we kind of still slayed despite not being able to move and it being really hot. Everyone said you ate. Everyone thought you ate so hard. You did. I loved it. You actually did slay. I was like, I didn't know what was happening. You were killing it. We did like eight. I think, no, not eight. Maybe like five or six takes. So like.

It took us a minute to get, we were a little winded at the end, but we were still serving, I think, you know? Yeah, because at some point you're like, no, we can do it better. We can do it better. And so we were like, okay, we picked the best of it, you know? And well, it has almost a million views. That's kind of wild. I mean, that was my dream to do a TikTok dance. I feel like that was my one and done though. I don't know if I can like, you know. You're over it? Yeah. I did the one. I feel good about that one. I was passionate about it, but. There's so many more dances to try. I just, I'm just not a dancer on TikTok like.

I'm just so not good. I don't think I am either. I tried in 2020 and I was like, no, I can't do that. Next time we'll have Charli D'Amelio. Maybe when Addison Rae comes on the podcast we can do a little dance with her. That would be everything actually. I would die to do a dance with Addison Rae. I dream about DMing her. I still haven't done it yet. You need to. Maybe when I do another Addison Rae cosplay. I have to think of another iconic one this year. I think last year at Halloween is when I did the Addison Rae books. The Britney one. Yeah. So we have to come back with that. But the dinosaur slays so hard.

I love this dinosaur. Maybe this will be what gets Jonathan Bailey on the podcast. He comes with all the dinosaurs when he dresses. I dream about that day, too. I'm ready. If it's not your wicked cosplay, it'll be your Jurassic Park cosplay. It'll be the dinosaur. I know. It's hard to cosplay his character as Bridgerton, but we're going to be Penelope and Colin because I'm more of a Penelope than a Kate, you know? And that's okay. I love Penelope. She's a slay. Also, I got these new...

Uggs. Uggs has a new style. I almost won my Uggs. Do you have these ones? No. But I like these ones. These are funny. I was trying to think of why they look so funny. And it's because the platform is inside the fabric. You know, usually you see the platform on the outside. Oh, tee. Because I'm like, they kind of look like hooves. Hooves are very in. Everyone wears hooves. Yeah. Chapel wore hooves a couple months ago. Yes. Joey Graceffa has hooves. He wears them. Love that. Yeah. Does Taylor wear them?

I don't know if Taylor does. Someone had hooves. Someone else. And I was like, wow, everyone's wearing hooves right now. I love them. They're giving, yeah, what animal? I don't know. Oh, what animal? Yeah. Oh, like a horse? They have hooves? Yeah. Really? I think of hooves like goats. Goats? They all have hooves. Yeah. Zebras probably? They're just animal feet basically. They're animal feet.

Well, that's why we're wearing this. And I don't know. I didn't want to miss a day. These are kind of tight. I have the opposite of body dysmorphia. I have like, well, it's body dysmorphia, but like the reverse way. Like I honestly think I'm so skinny all the time. When I look at my legs, I'm like, oh, they're so skinny. Or when I look at this, I'm skinny. But then I always look back. I think it's the cameras. I think they're making me fat. Because I always think I'm so skinny. And then I look at the cameras. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm huge. What? Yeah. Do you ever feel that way where you think you're skinnier than you are? Oh, yeah, always. Yeah. Okay, okay. So it's normal. But not a lot.

I feel like people think they're fatter than they are because you're like, I'm so fat. Oh, yeah. I feel like that's pretty frequent, which I feel like I have both sometimes. Like, it really depends. But a lot of the times I'm like, oh, that'll totally fit me. And then I put it on and I'm like, oh. Oh, I see. Yeah. I buy everything in like 3X. So then I'm like, wow, I'm so tiny. Speaking of 3X, let's get to the announcement, you guys. If you're seeing this right now, it is Tuesday, October 15th.

It's a little bit past the 10 o'clock hour. I wouldn't say it's about. It's probably 1020 Pacific Standard Time. Oh, that's pretty close. Probably 1020, 1030. Depends on when we get this up. If you're seeing this, huge announcement. I am doing a Christmas live show. Woo!

Call me Mariah Carey. She's got competition this year. I see her at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm like, bet. Watch me compete on the same day, okay? I don't think it's the same day, so you can go to both, actually. But here, one night only in Thousand Oaks, California. Wow, local? My house after. No, just kidding.

I know because what you said earlier in theaters near you it's actually in theaters near us yeah yeah you come to me that is so fierce sorry continue but that is so fierce they wanted

to do something in Orange County and I was like, can we just do down the street because that would be way easier for our first show if we're going to try this out. That is so funny. I'm always like, no, I wouldn't say push is not the right word but kind of push. Everybody I've been with, everybody's like, do a tour. And I don't think it's necessary because I'm like an amazing act. I think it's just what people are doing now is like tours and I've done two tours before.

But for me, doing live shows, I really do put a lot of effort. Not to say no one else does, but I put so much effort. Like, it's actually, I do the whole show. So basically, it's like coming up with mixes, re-recording vocals, thinking of the visuals, getting dancers, getting wardrobe, getting glint. Like, it's a full production where, like, my last tour, it literally took me, like, months to plan and choreograph and everything like that. So it's kind of doing the same thing for one night only. It's taking, like, so many things. I'm doing all the

classic, shallow, King Tut, Suddenly Seymour, live. Wow. This is like, I have so much to say, but continue. I love telling you this live. I haven't told Oscar any details. I love telling you all this live. But what's also very special is I have over, I don't know if you guys know this, I have over a dozen original Christmas songs that I put out throughout the years. I have Merry Trishmas, I have Christmas Sucks, I have Milk and Cookies, I have Hot Girl Christmas, I have

a new one called Pink Christmas coming out. There's, I probably have more and I can't even think of them. I have so many Christmas songs that, oh, COVID Christmas, who could forget that classic? Honestly, that was, that's not in the set list, that one. But I have a lot of Christmas songs is the point. So I'm going to be performing all those. And yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be fierce. Bangin' Buns is going to be outside with their truck. So it's a full church experience really. Bangin' Buns and

Only available at the live show. We have our Christmas hoodies. Okay, I got this on. It's actually really cute. So you will not be able to get these online. You will only be able to get these at the show here in Thousand Oaks. So we have our Trishmas hoodie. It has a little Christmas tree right here. We have the red and green fur, you guys. And we have the classic zippers that you love. And then the back. What's it say? Trish alive? Trish live. Oh, Trish live. Boom. Okay, there you go.

So, not only will this be an exclusive merch, and I think my mom will be selling at the merch table, I think. I was like, do you want to just, like, enjoy it? And we can ask someone from, like, we're...

There's like a touring company. There's a VIP company. There's a bunch of companies. I'm like, they could sell the merch. My mom's like, no, I want to sell it. I was like, all right. So you can get this exclusively there. Not going to be sold online. And if you get one of the VIP packages, there's like a meet and greet. There's a VIP package before the show. They also have exclusive merch that you can buy, which is really, really cute. I actually collaborated on the design with the touring company. It's really, really cool. And it's only available at the Thousand Oaks show. It's also December 15th.

September 15th in Thousand Oaks. I believe the show starts at 7 p.m., which is also wild because my shows on tour used to start at noon. So that was wild. I wonder why they had me at noon. Is it like cheaper to rent the theater? I'm thinking about that now. That was crazy. Like we put on a full show at noon. People came on their lunch break to see the show. That was so weird when I think about it. I guess it must have been cheaper. Yeah.

You guys, I'm also very nervous. It's the biggest venue. It has 1,600 people. That's not that big. No. I haven't even said 101 before. I'm, like, scared. Like, I literally, as soon as I saw, like, the post that you did, I was, like, in my head, I was, like, oh, my God. Like, we have to figure out the media. Like, PopBase has to be there. Like, maybe people. Oh, not people. Maybe, like, E! Online. We love people. I am, but I'm just kidding. I hate people.

We have to get the press there. Like, I already know there's going to be, like, all the VIPs are going to be clamoring to get tickets. But, like, we have to put the fans first, you guys. We have to put the fans first. It's going to be, like, chapel at ACL with, like, the historic crowds or, like, the Heiress Tour when, like, the Heiress Tour was sold out in Europe. So people had to go on the hills outside of the arena and, like, watch from outside. Like, that's going to happen here. There's going to be people in the freaking mountains with, like, binoculars trying to see everything. I don't know about all that.

me to sell at least the the orchestra like this is a historic one night only like it's one night only and it might be one night only there was like talks about doing it next year but I'm like this is a lot of

And then when I think of like the logistics of going out next year, I just don't think it would work. Even if I went on the weekends, I'm just like, I have like two kids and like I have a podcast twice a week. Like I just don't know if that's even like logistics. So this might be a one night only. It's on a kind of fun and it's close to me. And I was like, okay. And I love this theater because all the Broadway shows come here. We saw something rotten. It's like a huge, it's like a huge theater. And like truly, I think my biggest one I played was maybe 500 people last time. So I don't, hopefully you guys like it. They're predicting it to be like, oh, we're going to sell. I hope, I hope, I hope.

Because they're like, today we're starting a pre-sale. And I was like, do we need a pre-sale? Like, this is for your fans before all the other people get it. I'm like, who's the other people? Only people watching. The scalpers. We're going to have to shut down the scalpers. No, we even have that where it's like a limit of four tickets per people. Like, we're, they're like, no, we're locking this down. I'm like, they're really expecting the most. I'm like.

I made the most exciting new Christmas tradition I think that there would be. Yeah. I should see it every year at Christmas show. I know. We didn't get it in time to do the year on here, but the VIP merch you can buy if you get a meet and greet does have like the date. It's really cute. It has like the date on the sleeve. It's very, it's very cute. And I love December. It's like, it's truly our favorite month. I got engaged in December, married in December, found out I was pregnant in December. Like December is...

So I am very excited. So yeah, so the artist pre-sale, which I know. I was like, what? What is happening? I love it, though. Shout out, by the way. I feel they're so, the people who are putting this on, putting the show on, they're like so on it. They're like pre-sale today. This, this, and that. Everything goes on sale. It's like they have all the graphics. Wait till you see the graphic. I guess I, oh, my phone's over there. It looks like I'm DJing at Encore in Vegas. Like it's kind of everything. Yeah.

I took one in like a Santa outfit and sent it to them. And I think it's in my albums. I think I have an album.

I think the newest album. Do you know how to do another one? But it literally looks like this crazy Vegas show. Do you see it? That is so fierce. It looks like I'm like Vegas headlining on New Year's Eve. We'll send it to Jamie because it's... Yeah, yeah. I'm actually very excited. I am putting so much work. I'm doing like a bunch of new mashups. I'm getting dancers. I've got choreographers.

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I have a new music video, new music, so it's crazy. And we're gonna do meet and greets and VIP meet and greets and it's going to be fun. It's been, it'll be the first time in five years since I performed, so. Wow. I figure if I wanna be on Broadway, I gotta do baby steps. I should probably like perform, see if people care, and then we'll pitch Broadway.

So I'm very excited. So yeah, Trishmas Live happening December 15th live from a Thousand Oaks. I love that. It's so cool. That is so funny. Yeah. No, they, yeah, it's crazy. And actually, I did, I did pick the theater too because like originally they wanted me to go in Orange County and it was like a little like, no offense to anything, no shade or whatever. Honestly, I should probably be playing this club. It was like a little comedy club and I was like, I think I need to

I think I need to do this one, this big with the mezzanine, the orchestra. So I'm really aiming high, you guys. You really hyped me up when those hoodies sold out where I'm like, yes, we can sell out. It's quite a different thing to have someone come to Thousand Oaks versus buying something online. But I think you guys are going to really like it.

Buy tickets at Ticketmaster. We'll put that as the top link. There's like an official link. Don't get it anywhere else. Ticketmaster. I don't even think my last show was sold through Ticketmaster. I think it was just sold through some shady website or something. So it's on Ticketmaster. Should there be like a dress code? Should it be like... What are we, Chapel Rowan over here? I was going to say that. No, but I mean like it's a pink Christmas. Obviously, if you have the, you know, our hoodie or that kind of wear it. Yeah, come on. I don't know. I don't know. It's a pink Christmas, you know. Your stuff is a pink Christmas tree. See? Well, wear whatever, honestly. But...

However you want to express yourself, you can. Yeah, come Festive Vibes. I have a crazy outfit. It is such a cute outfit. I'm going to try and take a picture in it before so I can like, I don't know, have like a poster for the maker. How big are your outfits? It's bouj. It's a boujee one. I'm wearing it. I'm doing Mariah Carey style. Yeah. So we'll see how it goes. I'm actually so nervous, but so excited. Not nervous for like the show. I love performing. It's just more like our people. David is...

Jeff, no, Jeff's not in this closet, but like David Dobrik and Natalie just being like, look at this loser. They're refreshing the C chart. Check their social media if you want to know how the sales are going. People do do that, don't they? Oh my God. And it's okay. It's fine. If I sell out a row, it's fine. Okay. I will still perform. I don't know how that works actually. Do you still get to perform if you don't sell it out? I think so, right? I have no idea. Again, a really great company is helping produce this, so I didn't have to put anything up front. You know, I don't know. So hopefully we do good.

really excited and yeah, Trishmas Live. Originally they wanted me to do like a little Christmas tour. I was like, let's slow down. Start with one. Yeah, let's start with one and then we'll see how it goes. But there it is. Trishmas Live. Go get your tickets now at Ticketmaster. Oh, did I say the artist presale code? Trishmas. Oh. Okay. I don't know

After all that. If you want to buy them today, you have to use the code Trishmas. That's T-R-I-S-H-M-A-S. Trishmas. Because my name has to be everywhere. There can't be one thing without Trish. It's kind of like Tana, though. It kind of does go with everything. What is it called? Like a play on words. What is it called? Like a pun, I guess. Oh, yeah. Like Tana-bus. Self-Tana. Like it goes with so much.

Mine does too, right? Trish kind of goes with like make a Trish, you know, like make a wish, make a Trish or, you know, whatever. Trishmas. Trishmas. Trish like fish. I don't know. Dirty dish by Trish. That's the name of the perfume. I guess Trishmas is the only time it works. There's no other word that goes with my name. Well, Trishel juice was kind of fierce though for Halloween. That's kind of fierce. It doesn't really sound like Beetlejuice, but it was. Let's get through Halloween first. But we did want to have these, uh,

up as soon as possible so you guys can start planning. Some of my OGs, Brian and Catherine have already DM'd me. They're on the East Coast and like we're flying in. Oh my God. Yeah, that would be wild because they both came to multiple shows. I think Brian has come to the most shows of anyone. Shout out Brian Dakota. He was the Sabrina stan way before Sabrina popped off. He was a Sabrina stan like 10 years ago. Yeah, he knew. He's a taste maker. He is. And he came to every one of my shows and

He brought his mom to one and came to the meet. I love it. He came to our wedding. So I really, yeah, I really love them. And Daniel, I haven't heard from him in a while, but I know he's doing well too. And those are like my original tour people. It was very cool. It was very cool to always see them. So it'll be interesting to see. But now we have TikTok too, like as Moses pointed out, where it's like a whole new generation of people watching me. And I'm just like, I wonder if they know. That's why I've been posting my music videos because I'm like, I wonder if people know.

People know I have Christmas songs, right? I guess I should post on my old ones like Merry Trishmas and stuff like that. Well, on Patreon, you should do one video reacting to all your Christmas songs. Ah, T.E.M. Did we do that? We did do music videos, but not even all of them. Just regular ones? Yeah. Because I was shocked when you showed me all the Christmas songs. Oh, we did it. Yeah, but we should do a new one on Patreon. We did a reaction one, and it was like, I don't know how to insert. How do you do it? You know, where you cut the video to...

So we watched it on the TV behind us. We're like sitting watching TV and playing it on the TV. And it's so far back because the camera's so far in the TV. This is still up. I probably took it down. It was bad. But we were going through all of them and analyzing all of them. Production value. I know I can spend $10 million on a music video, but I have no idea how to insert picture in picture or whatever the hell you do. But all right. That's it. Thank you today's sponsor, PDS Debt.

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I didn't have much. I'm just really, you know, expanding. Oh, I've got a lot. You have a lot? Yeah. Although I feel like you also have to like shout out the Change.org petition to keep Ron some over MJ. Do we shout it out? Last time we checked, I had 100. Which scared me about the ticket sales. 500,000 views, but only 100 signatures. I'm like, love. Thank you.

Well, I think a lot of people are also respecting your wishes about, you know, deleting or privating the old videos, too. So it's like, you know. But I saw like one TikTok that had like a million views and like so many comments. Really? Yeah. Which everyone agreed it was like the burning of the library of. I love that. You're so smart. I love that other people knew that, too. I started following a guy who referenced that and I was like, wow, everyone's so smart. Never heard of it, but glad. Glad I can now.

It's still to be determined. I'm still leaning on at least privating. Yeah. A hundred is not, you know, maybe like a thousand. Yeah. Maybe if we sell out this Thousand Oaks show, maybe I'll keep it. A thousand people in this area? I don't even know. I know. Putting in Thousand Oaks, yeah. It's like...

Well, yeah. Well, yes. Hey, it's a great area to come to. There's no traffic. Parking is easy. Yeah, it's true. It's not like going into town where it's a nightmare. Yes. Here you're actually going to feel relaxed. It's fun. Safe. Yeah, safe. It's really easy. Yeah, there's a Fogo de Chao right next door to it. They used to have a P.F. Chang's right next door. You can try all of our favorite restaurants around here. Oh, I don't know where Bang & Buns can be. Can you just put a food truck anywhere? I'm trying to think of where it is because there's those restaurants. They'll be on the street.

That's so sick. I'm so excited. They have new brisket. Shout out Bang & Buns. Oh, speaking of, the collaborators of Bang & Buns all about that cinnamon. They're supposed to be delivering cinnamon rolls this morning. Whoa. Yeah.

That's me. Like Halloween ones. They're like a pop-up, but they collabed with Bang & Buns, and it was like the best cinnamon roll. And then I was at Horror Vibes Coffee in North Hollywood, and they're like, oh, we just delivered cinnamon rolls there. I'm like, well, they weren't there. They were sold out. So they make these Halloween orange-purple cinnamon rolls. They said they might make a pink glitter one for today. I don't know. I'm very, very excited. You guys know we love the food here. What were we talking about? Oh, the change that one. Maybe. Maybe, but probably not. Keep at it. Just keep at the petitions. We're trying to give you elevated production, okay? We can't have

We can't have me just like, you know, showing a Wendy's Happy Meal when we have full on TV production happening over there. So, you know, just enjoy it while it lasts. Okay. While it's up there. People are very sweet though. They're like, you know, Trisha doesn't really, you know, identify with that part of her life anymore. And that is, that's the tea. Yeah. So I, that's,

not really why I'm deleting him it really is just so I have like a clean slate but thank you for the defense people defending me I really do love actually even with the Bo Nian clip there was like a video version of that out of him you know talking about like me pretending to be trans is what he said and so many of the comments were like actually you know she identifies as non-binary and I was like

you so much because like I love that it's like lighthearted and a key now and like it is like whatever you can like laugh at it but I really was going through something at the time you know and it is like I said I'd rather be lighthearted and laughed at now than like people like oh she was like you know transphobic or something but um yeah all the people defended me it was just cool to see like on TikTok like it's such a different rhetoric than it was like five years ago when people were attacking me now it's like actually it was this and this is how she was feeling so yeah

Thank you for letting me be seen. I love seeing Bo Yang. Just seeing him talk about you would be so exciting. Well, we're obsessed. He dressed as Glinda. I really do love him. Everyone's like on the video, they're like, maybe Trish can have an SNL cameo. I was like, I don't know if that's how it works. But I will do it. I changed on org petition. Let's just do it, you guys. Get on SNL. Let's get on the signature and then switch that. Oh, God. I could never do an SNL. It definitely, that looks so terrifying. It looks very hard to do, but.

Yeah, it does look really hard. I like it never. Ariana, I mean, she did amazing. She did so good. Ariana was so good. And I think you would easily do it. I'm not Ariana Grande. First of all, you're great at reading cards and things. You read so fast, you won't even have to. I couldn't see him. I could not see him. We talked about that. Oh, we were talking about it. We were watching Masked Singer. And I was like, oh, I'd love to be a host. That's such an easy job. But I was like, I actually could not see the teleprompter. You will wear contacts. You will have to get past that. I can't put them in. I tried. I've tried so hard. I'm sure there's tricks.

Let us know. LASIK or something. No, I think people have like things to put them in and out. I can't. Even this morning, Louis was trying to curl my lashes. I like cannot have things come in my eyes. I've like tried so hard. I literally don't think it's possible. So I don't think any of that's going to work out for me, but it was a slay.

I loved it. She was so good. I know we were watching the – one of the sketches and I was like, she's so good at acting. And I was like, actually, yeah, T, she is. I know. I always forget like literally her roots are television. I feel like you kind of forget because her like pop music career is so like iconic. But –

She's actually so funny. Like, I love. So funny. I kind of want to see her do, like, a sitcom or something because her, like, comedic acting is so good. No, that's what I was shocked, too. I was like, wait, this is actually amazing. And she hasn't been on SNL since 2016. So it's been eight years. Yeah. Which is wild. No, I thought that, too. I thought every skit she did, her subtle acting. Because, you know, people, like, are so over the top. They're, like, not good. But, like, her subtleties. I was just like, oh, like, her little expressions in her face. I was like, I'm an Ariana Stan for sure now. Like, forever and always. Like, I love Ariana. I don't care if she spends with Colleen's accent.

and Zach saying all of them. I still stand by her. I was like, love you, girl. And she was like, oh, come hang at my house, but Colleen and Zach saying you're going to be there. I'm like, come in. How do I? Let me get in.

I would gag. I love her. I love her. She's just, she's everything. Yeah, and her impressions are also so good. So good. The Jennifer Coolidge skit, like, it was her and Chloe Fineman, I think, like, both impersonating Jennifer Coolidge. And why did Ariana eat up Chloe Fineman? I said the same thing! I was like, oh my god. She was like, and like, Chloe's good. She's done the sketch before. I, like, love her impersonation, but Ariana

Ariana's gonna just like her. She's so good. I guess because she impersonates like go singing. Maybe she just like hears the tone or something better. But she did so good. I was so shook by that too. Oh my god. I was like in awe of everything. And her Celine Dion. Ariana Celine Dion. Obviously she's done it before. But like I think she was just like really in her comedic bag. And it was so funny. Because usually like I find SNL like hit or miss. Like sometimes it's just like not my kind of comedy. But I kind of live for like all the sketches that Ariana did. Every single one. I was like wow. I was really giggling.

- Oh my, same. I was doing, my favorite was the, what do they call it? Castrati, it was the castrated one. I was like, I don't know, she was so cute. - She was so cute. - The little wig. - Oh, the little wig. I bought the lip combo she showed on her TikTok.

She's like, this is the Rem Beauty Glossy Bomb. Bought it. She didn't say what color, so I guess it was the pink. Then she contoured it with the Rem Beauty, like, shape stick. And I didn't know what color she got, but I got, like, two of them. I was like, I'm going to do this exact lip combo because it did slice so hard. I love that she was doing TikToks in between the sketches. I know. Like, how does she have the time to do all that? I know. Calling her dad. I'm like, what? Like, she. She was in her bedroom.

I loved it. She was really good. Oh, my God. I was – that was my favorite SNL for sure. And she sang at the beginning in her opening monologue. I really do wish they would have done another one of those radio sketches where it's like, oh, no, we lost, you know, the Whitney Houston channel. I know she did it before, but I wish she would have done it again because I just think it's like – it's actually amazing how talented she is. You're just like, damn, she's actually so good. Yeah. And even like the – she did a skit where they did like a bad version of Espresso. Oh, yes. And like to sing off key –

I feel like, yeah, you have to be talented to be, especially when you're like a singer, like a professional singer, like she's so good vocally to like make yourself sing off key, but also still kind of a slave. I was like, it's kind of giving me singing when I think I'm eating. Oh yeah, no, for sure. It's such a talent. I feel like that's why people think I'm a secretly a good singer because I sing so off key. They're like, no, you have to be a good singer to sing that off key. And I was like, T. I love that sketch too. Oh, it's that thing, Domingo. Domingo.

I loved it. That sketch was so good too. She was good. She's so funny. She eats in everyone. I love all her singing. I love all her comedy.

She was good. And did you see, like, there's this one video. These people were eating in a restaurant. And then it was, like, the day before SNL, I think. And then all of a sudden, like, Bowen and Ariana come in, like, arm in arm with, like, the rest of the SNL cast. But, like, they just look so cute together. Oh, my God. I haven't seen that. It really is giving us, like, in an alternate timeline. I feel like we're Bowen and Ariana. 100%. In my head, too. That's what we are. That's who we are. That's the icon status for sure. I was gagged once again.

my theory, I said this like a year ago that Bo and Yang is pretending to be gay because once again, making out with Ariana for like 10 seconds, who writes that to a sketch if you're not a little into it? Do you know what I mean? Like it's giving Rebel Wilson writing in like, who was it? Channing Tatum like grabbing her from behind. I was like, you know, well, I guess she's a lesbian now, but that's just acting. I don't know. But I was like, that went on for a very long time and it looked very like

think you can fake it or maybe you can i don't know but i don't think you can especially when you're like a comedian it just looks so real where i was like i don't know shaking his boots right now i know i thought that too that kiss was like so passionate it wasn't like a and sometimes they fake kiss but this was like lips making out kiss it was wild it was great though i loved it i mean we all we all gagged i like laughed out loud it was like so crazy i was so shook i don't know he's so hot to me though i do think he's so hot i think he just

I don't know. He oozes something. You know what I mean? And from seeing Wicked, the early screening of it, I really, I said it like right that night. I was like, he really is kind of like a breakout. Even though that character is like so not a big character on the stage production, like he's kind of a breakout of this movie. Whereas like he added so much comedy to it. It was so good. So I think we've always been a Bo and Yang stan. I don't think we've ever been like a hater, have we? I don't think so. There's nothing to really hate about him. From day one. I remember the first time we saw him on SNL and you were like. Loved him. Oh God. There's something just about a funny character

I don't know. I just think he's so... He has confidence. Yeah. Just his, like, look. When he plays the vice president, I don't even know. I've never seen the vice president in real life. Or not even... What is it? I don't know. He's not a vice president. What is he? A running... Runner? Runner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's running for vice president. Oh, I was like, wait, where are you going? Vice president's Kamala. I...

Whoever the one's running, I never see him. DJ Vans. DJ Vans. I feel like he looks, I don't know if he looks anything like him, but I like his impersonation of him on Celebrity Jeopardy. I was like, he's so funny. He eats every time. He really can play any character, anything. The fact that he came out as Glinda, I just, I really do love him. And not just because he called me iconic, but I really do love him. And I would love to be on Lost Cultural Arista's podcast. Not that I was invited, but. They have Mariah Carey, I think, today. Do they really? Yes.

Wow. How? What? Wow. They get everyone. They're like the number one podcast. I would love to be on it. I would love to be on it. New York is still calling my name somehow, some way. JetBlue just saw the... Have you ever flown JetBlue? No, I don't think so.

They always had a really good – I guess they're called mint. It's like their first class seats. They always had cool ones where they went back in a flat bed and always – New York, it was always cool. They came out with new ones that have – it's like the flat beds, but they also have a little couch inside of it now. It's so cool. Where do we see that on? I sent it to you on TikTok? Oh, my God. It looks so cool. I was like, okay, I need to go to New York. I need to fly JetBlue. I need to go on the Lost Culture East's podcast, see Rachel Zegler. Rosie – yeah. Rosie was just at Romeo and Juliet. I know. I love that.

envisioned myself as me and Rachel like that. That's why Rosie is the original Broadway stan. She always had Broadway people on her show and that's who I also want to be too. Oh man, I had such a good Rosie cosplay. I had little koosh balls. I had so many good ones for today. I'm so sad. Dang. It is timeless. It is timeless.

It is. Yeah, you're right. Well, yours be time was the one that you were supposed to wear with it or no? Oh, it was still in the works. So I was kind of relieved. Yeah, because you were going to be Rosie O'Donnell. So I'm like, what kind of matches the vibe? I'm like, I guess a lesbian. So yeah, at first I was like maybe chapel like her VMA night costume. But I'm like, that's kind of hard to pull off. Yeah. So I'm like, Ellen would like as like finding Dory.

As like a fish? Yeah, they have like a Finding Dory costume and I was going to put like a little blonde wig on. But also I'm kind of beefing with Ellen, I think. She's canceled, yeah. Yeah. Or you don't like her. Her and who else? Michelle Phan. I forgot about Michelle Phan. She had Joey Griselle on. Did you see? I didn't see. Did you see? Yes. I wonder what they talked about. I lived. I watched the whole thing, actually. You did? Yeah. Was it good? It was cute, yeah. It is funny. Again, I mean, I appreciate what they're doing, I guess. I don't know. It was like...

Michelle, I mean, I'm really trying hard to... I'm struggling with the words on how to do this sweetly. Well, they didn't know that he rescues animals. And I'm like, how do you not know that he rescues... So I'm like, I don't know how much research really went into it. So that was kind of the gag. What did he say? And they're like, wait, what? Oh, no. Because I'm like, literally...

Like, his channel, his videos since, like, 2020. So four years of, like, animal rescuing adventures. To this day, he's still doing animal rescue. That's, like, I think how people know Joey now is, like, all the cats...

Or dogs. Both, yeah. Yeah. So it was just kind of funny. But it was cute. She had her producer also do the interview with her. Oh. Yeah. So it was cute. That's not a very good sign when you start off as like a solo interviewer and then you bring someone on. It's giving Talk To-A for sure. Did you see the clip with JoJo or did you watch any of the ones with JoJo? No, I saw with Talk To-A that Mr. Beast rented out a movie theater to eat lunchly and watch Talk To-A, the JoJo interview. Okay, wait, but...

What? Because that's what I showed Moses. It was like right after our last Hot Topics on Wednesday we filmed. And I'm like, there's something so weird. Like, that's so weird. He's giving just like sinister energy. And I feel like he's really like leaning into it, that Mr. Beast vibe.

And I was in Target yesterday. Now they have a big, like, thing for Feastables. I saw that too. Yes, the Feastables do slap it. It was a Jimmy Jump scare. They should kind of remove him from the branding. Yes, for sure. Because the chocolate is good, but he's off-putting. Very much. Very much. I know. I see him, I go, ugh. No. Like, Logan KSI makes sense. They look like, okay, those are the cool boys you want to be. But I don't think the young boys are looking at Mr. Beast like I want. Maybe they are. Maybe. Maybe that is the new icon. Yeah.

Yeah, I think there's some tie-in. We've said this from day one. Obviously, the industry plant thing about whoever's pushing Hawk Tua, it's definitely guy-based for sure. But the fact that he did that, either someone paid him to do that or he's a part of the Hawk Tua brand. There's just no way naturally he's rented out a theater to watch Hawk Tua. I think because it's Jake Paul's podcast show.

that's doing Hawk Tua or Talk Tua. So I think, and he, like, Mr. Beast is so in with the Paul brothers. I think that's why. But you think he got paid? I think he knows that, like, he was eating at Lunch Lees and he was like, what can annoy people the most? And it would be like... Really? You think it was on purpose? I just feel... Oh, I think he was trying to annoy everyone.

to me, my initial thought was like, oh, he's like tied into this somehow, which would make complete sense while they're trying to like push her as this like sexual thing, which is not. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. B, this is again, just speculation, but because like Rosanna Pansino talked a lot about how like, you know, Logan and Mr. Beast were like going in on like crypto and stuff together, like the pump and dumps as they were saying. Wild. Wild.

Crazy phrase. But like going all in and then encouraging people to go in and then selling it right away. Right, right. I feel like they do some – just me speculating. I feel like they – I wouldn't be surprised if they had some weird business investments together. In the hot tub for sure. I feel something because again, love the girl Hailey. I feel like she's going to be just misguided so terribly and in a direction she doesn't want to go.

And she says it herself. Sometimes we catch this little glimpse of her being like, I don't want to be known as Hak Tua. I don't want to be sexual. And then like that's all it is now is like Hak Tua and the sexualness. Yeah. And even her Twitter persona, I'm like – because I really don't know. I get no shade to Hailey because I don't – I think there's people that are like taking the brand and running with it. Yes. I agree. But like they put her face into weird memes and stuff and they try to like pwn people. Like, yeah, gotcha. It's like very that. It definitely doesn't sound like –

21-year-old girl. Yeah. At all. Even the biggest pick me would not like say stuff like that, you know? So it's like I agree. I think someone like saw the meme and took it and like we're going to turn you into a brand and it's like all this money being thrown her way or something which is like yeah, take it. But the people that are like running her brand is so weird because the JoJo one was like super sexual. Like and again, like I guess JoJo is trying to be more sexual and like again, I was too. Like I think when you're in your early 20s, that's like a cool thing to do and talk about. Yeah.

Obviously, like, who cares? You know, like, talk about whatever you want. But it's just such a weird direction because was it – well, she had a co-host. So she had – Hawktua had, like, another – I don't know if it's her producer or co-host. She had, like, another girl, like, asking questions. And, like, for being called Talk2a, she, like, did not talk. Like, she was, like, not talking. Like, she didn't ask any of the questions. It was so weird. And I had never seen, like, a full one. I never watched one with Whitney or her grandma. So I always just assumed it was her talking to the guests. But, like, this –

And it was like a young girl, probably her age. It was probably like her friend or something was like asking all the questions to JoJo. It was like so weird. Kind of sexual in nature. I think I had a note of it because it was like last Wednesday. Oh, yeah. Just her sexual positions. It was like super weird. The thing about the JoJo was crazy was she was talking about the girlfriend she had and she's dated. So she had a show she was a judge on. So you think you can dance? Okay. Did you know this? That she dated the contestants? Yeah. We talked about – I think we talked about it a little bit when they went –

I think we mentioned it a little bit and we're like, that's kind of weird. It's so weird. So she's like, obviously she's saying like, I didn't even think of them that way at all when they were on the show. But then two months later is like dating them. And her current girlfriend now, she was also someone on the show. It was a guy, right? The ethics of this, like you're on a show, you're mentoring people. Like, yeah, but they're probably obviously legal of age. But like, isn't there some sort of like, or also just in the world of like, isn't that like, you can't judge someone if you're like, if you're a judge, you shouldn't be like fractured.

Fraternizing. Fraternizing with the contestants, right? Like being friends with – remember when Matthew Morrison like DM'd a contestant and everyone was like, oh my god, how dare he? But then she's like – I guess it's like dating after the show. But isn't that still weird? Like you were like mentoring them or no? Is it like completely normal? I read it and I have the same like gut instinct. Like that was my first thing. I was like, hmm, that's weird. But what do I – I don't know. Like so she is dating Dekayla Wilson who was a contestant on So You Think You Can Dance.

This year, I think the season finale for her season was in May. And she... Dekayla got all the way to, like, the finale. So I think she was final three. And JoJo was a judge on that season. She... Dekayla is 18. She's about to turn 19. Oh. But yeah, it is kind of weird. So they were... She was on the show May. So they went Instagram official in August. So obviously, they had to be talking, like, before that, before the hard launch. Especially JoJo, because...

with her with avery her like ex-girlfriend she was like i'm gonna be way more private about my relationship so to go instagram official like publicly within a month yeah i feel like that presumed yeah so realistically what's talking like if it was a guy like i really do think of it in that situation if it was a guy with a girl we'd all be like that's like disgusting you know what i mean because it's like it's just again it's like a power dynamic thing and not even

the dating sense of it. It's more just like the ethics, I guess, of it, right? Like if Matthew Morrison, who was like, you know, DMing someone on, that was a contestant, you know, you're just like, no, you shouldn't be doing that because you're like mentoring, you're in a power position, all this stuff like that. And then,

by it that like I didn't look she said she's like I didn't I didn't look at her that way at all it's like obviously you did because a month later you're dating like it doesn't just change in a month I hate when people say that it's very exact justice where it's like oh for four years never looked at her like that but she turned 18 and all of a sudden I fell in love I was like BFFR I think yeah the turnaround is a little too

I think like say she was a contestant like if this was a year right like it was a year away. Yeah. I feel like that makes more sense like oh she was a contestant on the show. It's been like a year. I feel like you kind of forget within a year like I don't remember contestants on like shows from a year like American Idol a year ago. You know what I mean or something like that. Yeah. At least a year kind of makes sense but like a month. But even that people come for David Foster with Catherine McPhee. Oh true. I forgot about that. He was her mentor on American Idol and I guess I don't know 10 years later they're married with a kid. That's true. But at

on the Silica set side eye and they're old. Like she's like my age and he's 70 or something like that and it's like

I think an age gap when you're that age is like whatever if that's what you want to do. But because he met her when she was, I don't know, probably 18 on the show or 19, really young, it's still – again, even if they're like 25 on the show and you're like their mentor, it's still like this weird like dynamic of like I was your superior and I don't know. I guess just the age of them being so young. I don't know. JoJo can meet so many girls. It's like why do you have to go for two contestants on a show you were judging? It makes me not want to put her as a judge on any show because she's going to date them, you know? Yeah.

It's just kind of weird. I don't, like, again, you couldn't meet, there's so many people you could meet. I don't know. It's just, oh, JoJo, I really do. I really, like, root for her for real. I just feel like she's just unhinged at the moment. Yeah. You know?

Like, I think it would kind of be like if RuPaul dated someone who was like on Drag Race this year. You know what I mean? Yes. I think there is a judge in the UK. I forget which one. There was like one of the judges in the UK ended up dating a contestant, but it was like from three years difference. So it was still like people were like, oh, that's kind of weird. But it was also like at least a lot of time has passed. Yeah, let the time pass. It's not as fresh. But yeah, the turnaround is.

It's actually wild. And just being so young. I know JoJo is young, so I'm not saying that age gap is the worst. But someone who's 18 on a reality show looks up to you as a judge. She got a long ways. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I did not know all that. She was talking about being topped and bottom. I was like, girl, it's just so weird. And again, I don't knock it at all. I think you should be open about your sexuality and talk about whatever you want. It's just such a weird... The rebrand was so abrupt. The bad girl was...

So abrupt all of a sudden. All of a sudden it's like, oh my God, this is... I guess there's no easy way to ease out of child stardom, I guess. Yeah. I guess you have to go that way. I did like when she was talking about like the controversy around that photo shoot she did where she had like the bulge, like the bedazzled bulge on. Lady Gun, shout out. My cover comes out this week. We love Lady Gun. I shot it months ago, by the way, but... And I love... I thought her cover looked good. I like it too. And I even... I like the bedazzled bulge and I was so confused with the controversy, but I like when she was like...

When she was defending it, she was like, yeah, you know, it's kind of like when Harry Styles wore a dress back in the day. And I thought that was so weird. It was like two years ago, but... Back in the day. For Vogue, but yeah. Yeah.

I get it. I get the connection. I get it. It's kind of like, oh, why is he feminizing himself? Why is she emasculating herself? And I thought that was fierce and I was ready to be back on the Georgia train. But yeah, this was a little odd. And then she also did an interview where she revealed that she is spending $30,000 for a birthday trip for Dekayla, her girlfriend, for her 19th birthday. Where did she say that? To E! To E! News on the red carpet. Why? Why did she disclose so much? I know.

We don't have to be. We do know everything about her. That is so true. And can I tell you, it's like, it's not embarrassing necessarily, but it's just like, I look back at like when I spent $50,000 on trips for people I was dating. It's just like low-key kind of embarrassing. It's giving, like do whatever you want with your money. I did the same thing and I'm like, I'm going to have fun. I have money. I want to have fun. But like to say how much, it's just giving like,

without it even being gold digger vibes it's giving like gold digger vibes right it's like oh wait so one person spending all the money on this trip it's just like you can just do it without saying it as someone who's done this too you know what I mean I just feel like because then you just look stupid I look back and I'm like oh my gosh like I paid $50,000 for like a vacation and I don't know and then you break up and then you're like gosh I looked I don't know just keep it just keep it in a

Keep it in the raps. No one needs to know. People think about the trip for free. Maybe she also paid some of it. I don't know. It's kind of a weird flex. I know. Because, like, it's just weird. Why do you admit so much? I know. I do kind of live for a JoJo interview because she will kind of just leave it all out there. Like, she doesn't hold back. I want to interview her. JoJo.

She said, she spent $30,000 to go to Hawaii. She said it's going to be the best birthday extravaganza. But look, it's not about the money. It's about the person. It's about the time and the thing you do and the experience. Love, it's like spending $30,000 to go to Hawaii, but it's not about hugs since it is. Why did you say that?

Also, since when is Hawaii $30,000? I spent $30,000 on my first trip with an ex, yeah. What? Yeah, if you get first class, four seasons, it's like $3,000 a night. Four seasons, my always like was $3,000 a night. Plus, if you do like excursions and all stuff like that, like I did spend $30,000 once, yeah. Oh my God. It's actually crazy. See, you and JoJo are a little too... We're the same. You, JoJo, you and Tati. Wait, no. What? Me and Tati? We always talk about how you and Tati are kind of similar. You and JoJo are kind of similar. No, no, wait. Maybe I did say that, but why?

Yeah, but why? Why did I say that? There's no way. Because I'm just on my island doing my own thing. Oh, well, grip part, yes, I guess. We're related, but that way. I was like, not Tati. Me and JoJo, unfortunately, yes. But no, no, not unfortunately. JoJo does slay. For better or worse, yeah. For better or worse. You know, I really do think...

Yeah, she just overshared. I think it's jarring. I think it's jarring, right, when someone just, like, says so much. And you're just like, can we, can we? Like, when I was watching the ones about her sexual position or this, it's just like, this is a lot. And maybe because I'm, like, old, I'm just like, oh, my God. And the money thing, too. It's like, girl, we get it. We love that you have money. We love that you're rich. We love that you're spoiling. Obviously, like, a 19-year-old's not going to have the money to do that. I get it. But also, like, we don't need to share so much. Who was it? I think it was Laverne Cox told Dilla Mulvaney once on a red carpet. Oh, yes. Yeah. She's like, you know what? Save some stuff for yourself.

And Dylan actually, like, took it to heart. She's like, actually, that made, like, so much sense. And, like, same with me. I love to overshare. I love to share everything. But sometimes, yeah, keep a little bit for yourself. We don't need to disclose every penny, everything. And it's just so funny, too, because literally, like, after the Avery stuff, she was like, I, like, learned my lesson. Like, private is the way to go with relationships. Like, it is just the thing to do. And then she got asked, well, why did you go public? Well, she was – JoJo kept going to Dekayla's, like, dance class. And then, like, obviously other people were there, like, just –

just people who were taking the dance class like Jojo why are you here so then she's like I'm just gonna go public and say it okay well you know that's fierce but she is saying they are very madly in love oh my I mean she's young she's so young and has so many relationships again not to judge I would have loved to have so many relationships but it's like you I mean you don't know you just don't know what love is at that age you just don't I mean maybe you do but I don't think it's with five

five people you know what i mean and there's no judgment you're like trying to figure it out but i don't think you've been in love with all these people because i don't think you know what like love is and that's an old person being obnoxious to a young person but it's kind of true you know i don't know you have to like you have to think that you do in order to and then when you do like really find love and you're like oh like this is what it's supposed to be so that's actually yeah i thought i was in love you have to like go through those all those relationships and maybe that's one more last who knows yeah honestly i

Honestly, I feel like she has someone who wants to be, like, in love and a hopeless romantic and wants kids and, like, stability. So... Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, you're right. Yeah.

I know. I'm trying to have like the rose colored glasses. Yeah. Even for JoJo, you know. Although we just had a guest. Our guest is coming up Thursday. We just had her and I asked her the reason why she was at work. She said, I hate Devorah's. Like would never do it. And I was like, oh, so like what is the reason? She's like super open and she's like just too young. She got married at like nine. She was 20 and he was 19 and she was just like too young. Same thing we're seeing with like Aspen and stuff online. I think you're just like

I don't know. Like get married. Some people last. I think like 20 and 19 is just so young to get married. It is. Yeah. Because you change. You just change naturally like what you want, what you need and all that stuff like that. Yeah. It's wild. I think you can just like – I don't know. My advice would be not to. Although I would have definitely at 19. And someone wanted – I wanted to marry literally the person I was dating at 18. So I guess it's – I guess I get it. But from what we've heard from everyone who's done it, it's like don't do it that young. You know? Yeah. I guess like what is the rush really? You know what I mean? Like –

Yeah. Yeah. Like you can still even like if you get engaged like that doesn't mean you can be engaged for years. Stay engaged for years. I always say that. That's what we're talking about too with her is it's like

I love being married, but like it doesn't really change anything. Yeah. Other than like, yeah, like hospital stuff, like making decisions, like if someone's sick, but that's like when you're older. So I feel like when you're young, you really don't need to get married. Yeah. Get engaged. That's like the funnest part is getting engaged and you can show the photos of your ring and you're just like, I'm engaged. My fiance. Yeah. It's fun to say that. Yeah. Stay in that for as long as possible. And I do love being married, but it really just felt the same the next day. I was like, well, that not much has changed, has it? It's kind of just the exact same.

I guess there's more contracts involved. If anything, you should probably just not because it is like a contractual thing. When you get married, you like sign – what is it? I don't know. They come with you. The guy who marries you comes and like sign this, sign this. There's like literally like seven pages. And I'm not talking about prenups or anything. Like just to get your marriage license. Yeah, like at the courthouse or something. Yeah, right. Yeah. I guess we had like a private one because I didn't want people to know. You had to put like your parents' name, his parents' name, like everyone's name. So we did like a private one. People were like, you're not married. I'm like, no, we have a private –

But even so, you have to fill out so many contracts, so much information. It's very contractual. And then like she was saying, when you get divorced, it's like this whole messy thing. It's like alimony and who gets this and that. So honestly, wait as long as possible because it really is just a contract that binds you in for life for better or worse. And there's a lot of times that there's worse happening. So just stay as a partnership. I like Scotty Sire. Not to bring it back to him, but –

Why has he never proposed? He's always in long-term relationships and he's in his 30s. It's interesting he's never proposed, right? He was with Kristen for, I don't know, like six years. This girl has been with like six years. Jacqueline, yeah. Yeah. Is that her name, Jacqueline? I think so. Oh my God, like Jacqueline Elf? I've never heard another Jacqueline, have you? Yes. Oh, really? Right? Jacqueline. I've never heard that name. There's a famous Jacqueline. She was a Charlie's Angel. You know, Jacqueline something. She was a Charlie's Angel. Jacqueline. Really? Really?

I've never heard that name except for Jacqueline Hill. That's so weird. Oh, my God. Jacqueline Smith. Yeah, she's a Charlie's Angels girl. From like the 70s? Yeah. How do you know that? That's so random for you to know. I think she was on – she must have been on like an MTV or like VH1 show or something. Really? Because usually I wouldn't know. Like I know Farrah Fawcett. That's all I know of the Charlie's Angels. I never heard of Jacqueline Smith. Oh, my God. Crazy. And who's Scottie's Jacqueline? Or can we not say? She's not public. I don't know. No, she's like an influencer, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah.

um shout out scotty and jacqueline why are you guys getting engaged but no pressure i don't even know um i love that it was like no like don't get married like no rush well when are you getting married that was also fierce that was like they're like scotty this is your mom so you know i want grandkids an engagement dinner i do randomly think about scotty sire

Like, randomly. Like, what is he doing? You know what I mean? Like, is he self-torturing? You know what? Maybe he wants to open for me. That would actually be fierce. He had a Christmas song. Do you remember the Christmas song he did with Mariah? No. It was like being about...

I feel like I always sing this. Yes, it's about being depressed. Being depressed. Being dumped on Christmas. Oh, yes. Nobody wants a lonely Christmas. Yes. But I'm about to call it quits with you. Yes, yes, yes. Breaking up is at the top of my wish list and maybe you don't have a clue. You said that I want you but didn't. Anyways, Heath, Mariah, Scotty, if you want to open December 15th in Thousand Oaks.

If Heath wasn't on it, it would be such an iconic song. That would have been such a good song. I forgot he was. And he's like pulling a reindeer. It was weird. And then him and Kristen broke up like literally a month later, which is sad. Like I'm team Kristen all the way, by the way. I love Kristen more than anything. But he wrote the song about breaking up and she was in the music video. And then like a month later, it's like we broke up. Maybe that was him like laying the groundwork. He started it. He's like, remember that music video we did? Well, I meant it. That's why I hate foreshadowing anything. When people do clickbait of like

They don't do that anymore, but people used to always be like, we're breaking up. He cheated on me. All those things. I was like, that seems like a weird manifestation to put out there. Yeah, you're like putting it in the universe. Yeah, and that happens. I mean, that's happened to me before when I clickbaited stuff. And I'm like, you know what? Let me not manifest anything weird. So I only say good things and positive things because the universe is always listening. Oh, gosh. Well, Scotty, I hope you're doing well. I hope you're doing better than the rest of the vlog squad. Dump Jeff. He's slaying. Also, tickets go on sale today. Also, tickets go on sale. Ticketmaster. I'm going to do it.

hope we sell out so David can watch that and be like, damn. Damn. Because even when I was in the vlog squad and I was cool with them in 2018 and I did a tour and I sold out, it was like a 500 theater – not theater, 500 venue. And it was always standing. This has seats. This has seats and it's bougie. But even then it was like 500. So if I sell out now, that means I've surpassed my vlog squad fame. My heyday, if you will. Thank God. It was like – that was like –

What do you call it? Like jumping. What is it called? Jumping the shark? Jumping the shark. No. Well, I feel like jumping the shark is bad, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. You're ahead of it. I think I was like jumping ship quick. Like if the ship is burning, I'm jumping off of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is it called jumping ship? Oh, you mean before I went down. Yeah. Yeah, I see. I see. I jump ship at the right time. Did you see it? It's about to go down and you're like. That's my career is that's dodging and just jumping from ship to ship. Were you booted from a ship or did you jump? I think I self evacuated. Self evicted. Yeah.

it was me, but honestly them, they did kind of push me out. You're right. It was a mix. They pushed and David stopped filming with me. If I went into the, I'm writing a book right now, so I'm having someone help me like compile my thoughts so I can get it all right. And we're talking about vlog squad days and I was like, God, it is so weird to think about because I was like, yeah, I kind of remember it like me making the videos and that's why I got booted. But when you think about it, that month leading up to it, I wasn't asked

and asked to film I remember that like he'd be like okay you guys come with me you guys stay here and it would always be me Carly and Aaron that had to stay back and he would go film my faves my three faves there was no camera filming us we were just told to stay at the house you guys should have started your own thing I would have loved I loved Carly and Aaron okay I love that you love Carly and Aaron

I love that. It's like sitting on the bench. It's like sitting on the bench. Yeah, you're like, this is the moment. I always wondered where the Carly and Aaron stands were. They're right here. If you're a Hawk to a stand, please make yourself known. Make a TikTok. Be like, we saw this on Just Trish and guess what? There are a bunch of us. We're the Hawk to ease. Okay. We're the ones that stand by. I would love, I would love to know. And like,

I think I'm a Hawk Tua fan. So I, of, of, I'm a Hayley Welch fan. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Same. I'm a Hayley Welch fan. I don't know if the collab's happening. Like I said, so many people were pushing her for a collab and I was like, no, no, no. But then I'm like, wait, but I really want to like talk to her. But I do have a feeling, I wonder if she had like a big team that's like, oh my God, I can't ask this, this, and this, I don't get this, this, and this. I hate when people bring. That's what I'm also so curious about, like the inner workings of Hawk Tua. Like I am literally mystified by it.

I feel like there'll be like a bunch of men here just trying to like tell us what we can and cannot say. Yeah. It pissed me off so much but. But then we'll end up like after we'll do like the hot topics after and we would just say everything. Everything got cut y'all. I know. I want to know. I'm so I am happy for her. I love that she's successful but like I need to know the tea. I love that Jojo was on. That's kind of everything. Jojo really is everywhere. Yeah.

I like JoJo. JoJo, I like you. I always have. I always root for you because I do feel like you went through some shit as a kid that you don't even process. But we saw it on TV. And even if it was fake, I still feel for you, girl. So I, you know, I'm not trying to victimize you. But it was brutal what we saw on TV. And I hope that you're doing well. We had three group costumes with me, Holly, and Tana. Oh, that's fun. And it's a lot. The coordination is a lot. So I think we're doing that in a couple Sundays. There's like so much. So...

happening but you know I think I'm literally everyday have something it's actually it's so funny because I remember last year

I think, yeah, it was Tiana was doing one of the Halloween interviews or whatever and talking about how stressful Halloween is. It's so stressful. It is. Like getting it all together and the costumes. I mean, it's just like so much. And deciding on costumes and getting everyone's schedule. Like it's actually so much. And I feel like it's extra because you're also in the middle of Wicked. So then like you don't even get a break after. You go straight from Halloween into Wicked. Into Wicked. I know. Well, we are definitely doing a lot of Wicked cosplays because I'm like, I want them to notice me, you know, stuff.

I just love, I know, there's just a lot. And November does. Yeah, November goes right inside into Wicked and then December. And then it's Trishmas. Trishmas. And you see your Wicked Stanley Cups. Oh, do we have to talk about it? Yeah. This was a hot topic. This was, I,

I didn't even know they were on sale yesterday. I literally just went to go. What was I getting? Oh, I needed toiletries. I needed a bunch of toiletries. So I went to Target and I was there at 8 a.m. because I always go right when they open. And they were literally stocking these. And there were so many. There was maybe like 30 on this thing. But I saw on TikTok that people were like lined up. People were fighting. Yes. People got in physical altercations over the stand. Where was that? Was that just one location? Let's hope. Or you think it was like multiple locations? I feel like it was multiple. I think I saw like two different videos. And they seemed like different people. Like grabbing. Because I saw it, but I couldn't.

really tell what they're doing. They're just like fighting each other for it. Yeah, and like grabbing out of each other's hands and stuff. That's wild. Yeah. Nobody was doing that at my Target, that's for sure. I love them. But it really is how funny how it's just like pink and green and they call it wicked because there's like nothing wicked about that. I love it, first of all. I'm not...

Oh, there's like little butterflies. That's so weird. What makes this wicked? It says wicked, but like what makes it wicked? I think just pink and glittery because they have like, I saw underneath it. When I went, I went like around 11. Oh, you went? They were out of the pink. They had the green. Did you get one? No. I have too many cuffs. That's how I was too. But when I saw it, I was like, all right, I'll get it. I wasn't going to. But yeah, this matches my mane back. It matches it exactly. It's like, wow. Same paint job. Oh, there's a flying monkey on this one at least. That one has butterflies, but this one has a little.

But yeah, people were really fighting. I guess people were also taking multiple. Like I see one lady has like five cups in her hand in this one. So I think people were really just kind of going all out for the Stanley cups. It's crazy. Stanley is wild. Ooh, yay. Stanley is wild. All right, come on in with those Cinnabons. Oh,

Whoa. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Okay. First heard about All About That Cinnamon through Bang & Buns. Where's my microphone? Through Bang & Buns. Double duty. Through Bang & Buns. They did a collab. And then they were at the Horror Vibes Coffee Shop in North Hollywood. And I missed them because they were sold out. They were like, do you want us to send some to you guys? And we missed them. Sorry, All About Cinnamon. Okay. All About Cinnamon. All About That Cinnamon. Oh, my gosh. That's so. Oh, are you seeing it? Can you see it? Oh, my gosh. Wow.

Spooky. These look like ube. Are they ube? You remember the ones we got before? Yeah. You know I love an ube too. I love an ube too. Oh my gosh. Like a spooky Halloween. I love bats. I wish. Like a dinosaur. Oh my God. That's so cool. Wow. Wait. I wish they would sell these. I wish I had cinnamon rolls for Chez on it. How did they do that? You have to keep the box. I know.

I want that. I love everything. Oh, wait. We're just saying how... Okay. We're going to eat this on patreon.com slash justchash because we don't want to have chewing into the microphone if you don't like it. So sorry for our... I love you. We're back, you guys. That was a good one. Oh, where's my glasses?

It's the main one. Let's get this full cosplay. It was a good one. Oh my God. That All About the Cinnamon was absolutely delicious. Go to patreon.com slash Trish to check it out. We were just talking about all these really cool, trendy food things that pop up around LA. And my great idea is to have the Trisha pastas. I want it to be like cafeteria style where you can go and get all my favorite pastas. You know?

Like in the food court. Like old school Sparrow used to have really good pastas. That was the first time I had Big Ziti was in Sparrow. They're just like not the same anymore. But they had like really good. So there's like a Trisha Bolognese and there's like a Trisha Fettuccine, a Trisha Butter Noodles, a Trisha Big Ziti. Like that would be such a slay. I would love it. And like cute little – actually it should be a restaurant. It could be a stand-up one too where it's like –

pink and glittery and it's like welcome to Trisha Pasta's and it looks like an Italian flag but it's the shades of pink or something like that you know what I mean but isn't Natalie Noel's brand pasta I like that more than anything

Oh my, I remember. A call back to last week. You know what? I called a Moses with a call back. No, I, that was good. Because I am, I have like, okay, this is so weird. Like, you won't get the vision until I show you, but I have pasta merch coming out. And when I was making it, I literally typed in pasta merch to see if anyone else ever did it. That's how I saw it. And I was like, oh my God, Natalie did that stupid one. It's like, I love pasta. And I was like, what the fuck?

Like, what the... Mine is so much better. Mine has a bolognese twist. It's me eating. It's, like, so much cuter. But I was like, no, no, no. This is not the pasta. Like, I'm sorry. I am. That's... That was crazy because that was a time... It was right after I was in the group. And so I'm like, I don't know how she's known for pasta. Like, that's what I... I mean, it's cultural appropriation. She is Italian. I hate when YouTuber merch... They don't do it as bad anymore. And maybe this is just me being, like, angry for no reason. But, like...

was so annoying when people would come out with merch and like it didn't have anything to do with like their brand like they're like it was just random merch it was like i don't know if it's someone's merch i don't want to like on them but you know random things like be kind to people or something is that someone's merch okay maybe scotty cyrus but i don't know i know his is anti scotty scotty club don't be sad oh yeah a lot of people just ripping off other people's brands like the karenacoff was calvin klein oh my god that's funny but just like random i mean it's and it's a nice message to be kind to people but and that's a fine one i'm sure it's somebody i know

That one's fine, but there's just certain people who have the most random things. I can't even think of what they were, but I was like, it has nothing to do with their brand. They were just like,

Putting out random stuff. Philip DeFranco is probably one of the biggest. Oh, God. Like he'll have a shirt that just says sports. That was so dumb. He thought he was so clever and funny with it too. He thought he ate. He's like, if you're watching the football game this weekend and you don't know what team to root for, how about just put sports? Yeah, sports. I'm like, okay. He was like, he's like a pick me, but like a boy pick me. He just like so, he had the worst. He had like a monkey for the longest time. I bought that shirt actually, but he had like a monkey as his logo for a while. What is the other one? Didn't he have, what did he used to call people?

I just remember him saying to everyone, he's going to punch them in the throat. Oh, yeah. That's aggressive. Punch in the throat or beautiful. Was it beautiful bastards? Is that what he called people? You're like, hi, beautiful bastards today. Yeah, he used to have like weird. He was weird. Douchebag of the week. Oh, yeah. His merch was always awful, but we love you. Wait, isn't our sponsor PDS? PDS, Philip DeFranco Show. What? PDS Debt Solutions. I never thought about his name. No, it used to be called PDS Show. He called it PDS, the Philip DeFranco Show.

Not PDS, that solution's out. That's, yeah, his merch was so weird. He always had weird merch too. I can't think of the other ones. But he had another one too, like, how's your mental health? He'd always have like weird merch that like didn't have to do with anything. But anyways. I was looking at Fanjoy to see like what do people have these days? Are they still around? Who's on Fanjoy now? They have Sniperwolf. What's her merch? It is, what does it say? It's probably other people's merch. That's illegal? That's illegal? That's illegal? One is a synthwave merch.

synth wave with the wolf on it i don't i don't know oh my god it's a little anime character of her saying that's illegal um that's so weird oh larry saperstein has a pride shirt they have random people they used to have everyone back in the day everyone yeah all full coverage they have but it's sold out

full coverage oh what was their merch it just says full coverage okay it's to the point yeah makes sense yeah some of the stuff would be I mean I had weird ones too I had like really weird merch I think I had like carbs don't count like just random stuff that people were like oh this should be your merch it was like that was way back in the day like spread shirt but people would have the most random stuff oh they have Tana Mongeau dizzy merch

That was a throwback. Yeah, that was her moment for her. I wonder if she still like sells with them or she never promotes it or anything. I know. Dizzy is an older brand too, so who knows? I feel like she's lived a hundred lives since Dizzy. So true. When you think about all the stuff she's done, I'm like, that is crazy. She was like, it was kind of like sliving, like Paris Hilton. Yeah. Yeah, Dizzy. I like that when people try to make a word happen, you know? Yeah. It's like fetch or something.

I still have so many topics. Oh, this is a good segue. Did you see the Hollywood reporters, the new A-list, and it was social media influencers? No. Okay. I will say this. Okay. The reason I saw it, and this is like, again, I'm on Trish Talk. I just see myself every time on 4U page. I don't seek it out. I just saw it. And I saw the one that was really nice and was like, how she paid us on this list, whatever. And then I just wrote a comment forever on the D-list. Like, you know, I'm...

I think it's good. I think it's good for them, honestly. Like, you know, like, it's good. Like, you want people to be excited about influencing. And I think in the day of, like, influencers where everyone's an influencer, like, you know, you want to feel like you are impacting the world, right? Yes. So I was like, of course you're going to feel so hyped if you're, like, you're the A-list of influencers. Yeah.

you know the list was that bad like there's we always say this on the podcast or I always say this in general like there's so many influencers that get like 20 million views that I have no idea who they are you know what I mean so I feel like you know just because like the comments were like I don't know any of these people or whatever and I was just like

I don't know. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they're not influential, right? Yeah. I think the difference between the two things was so the Hollywood Reporter had like a photo shoot featuring 22 creators, but then the actual list was a list of 50. Like if you click the article. Oh, I didn't know. So that was like the disparity, I think. And then in that article where it was like the 50 influencers, it was people who made sense. It was like Amelia de Moldenberg, the hot ones guy. Like it was thing, Bretman Rock. It was like Tana Mongeau. Yeah. They probably just turned out

the photo shoot then they're probably like yeah not for me yeah so the actual photo shoot and that was what thr like used to like promote it it was like you know the new a-list but if that was like a separate article those ones were those 22 people were still in the 50 list okay but yeah the overall 50 kind of made more sense because i saw the photo of the 22 creators and it kind of went viral like everyone was tweeting it it was like what's going on here like even like traditional celebrities were like i don't know any of these people but um

Yeah. So the 22 people who were in the photo shoot are – the branding of that was city of social media stars, 22 LA creators, 186.2 million followers, 1 billion likes. So it was 22 creators who were in LA and I guess were available to do the photo shoot I guess. And in that photo shoot – That makes sense. That makes more sense. And then the 22 creators in there were Rhett and Link. You know Rhett and Link. OK.

What? Like, that's so... Not to say he's not... They're not... Obviously, they're influential. They get, like, a ton of views. And they have been around. They're old, like me. I don't know. I was trying to think of, like, a right word. But they're just, like, older. Veterans. Yeah. It's an older... Oh, my. Veterans. Veterans. It's good. So it was, like, weird to see because, like, not to say, like, they're above it. They just put in more time than everybody. So it is kind of weird to be with people who are just, like, fresh TikTokers who started, like, a year ago. That's what I was thinking, too. Yeah. I was like, they don't really fit the... The vibe. Yeah. You know? I would have... I didn't get invited. But I would have asked...

like to ask just so you know like around I did see the person who said Trisha should have been in all the comments like but she's problematic so I get it all those people are like I haven't been problematic in 10 years but that's always my title also Tana making this not she's not problematic anymore either but she also was problematic at one point the list were like they all had pretty good writers but then Tana's was like

It was all like her cancellations and stuff. I'm like, okay. Wait, really? I was like, wait, what? Yeah. No, she's like so influential. Like, despite, that's so annoying. I hate when people do that. It's like, she's influential because why? Because they're like, oh, because she got canceled so many times. She's back. Like, that's so weird. Like, stop. Yeah, hers was, like, because a lot of, so overall in the 50, they had like, um,

Like, Noah Beck was on the list. And they're like, what would you do if TikTok gets banned? He's like, I'm going to move in with my parents. Everyone else had, like, cute little blurbs. And then Tana didn't give an interview, I guess. Or, like, a Q&A or whatever. And hers was short. She was like, um...

They get this many views. But then Brooke was in a scandal and then now she's back. It was so weird. It was like – Yeah, like why are you even putting them together? Like you know what I mean? Like I get it. They have a podcast. But like when you're writing something about somebody, like have it be about that. That's my biggest problem too when people ask me about other people when they do an interview about me. And I was like, yes, I get people are part of my story. But if you're just giving me a little blurb, like it's going to be about me and not anybody else. That's frustrating. I hate that. I hate when they do that. Maybe she had like – she did talk about –

I think it was, I don't know, like a month ago, like giving a bad, like a bad interview that didn't sit well with her. I don't know if it was that or maybe something unrelated. I have no idea. But, um,

The photo shoot slayed, though. I'm not gonna lie. It was giving me Vanity Fair when, like, all the It girls were on it. You know what I mean? It reminded me of, like, I mean, I think we talked about it last week, like, the Shane Dawson, like, Jenna Marbles, like, photo shoot. Oh, on the Variety, yeah. Back in that day, it was, like, they, when YouTubers were, like, you know, the ones to cover. Like, I remember Variety would do, like, little photo shoots with, like, Tyler Oakley. Yes. And, like, you know, that vibe.

and this is gonna be that again but yeah it was weird a retin link and then it was like all like you know the tiktokers and stuff i mean it was retin link marco zamora matt friend asia jackson britney broski obviously queen okay that makes sense britney broski instantly recognized josh richards i did not recognize but then i the name i was like okay from bffs yeah wow i mean maybe is what what was he what's his blurb about what's he influential i didn't read it um

I saw 22 million TikTok followers or something like that. Maybe in that sense. I don't know if the BFFs is the most influential podcast out there. A little shade. Drew Afuelo obviously makes sense. Charlie Jordan, Owen Hall, Megan Roop.

Nalia Devorah, Yasmin Sahid, Desi Perkins. She's also like a more OG. Oh, yeah. Desi's like a beauty. Yasmin, you said, I saw her at Beetlejuice. I know her. She does cool little Disney TikToks. Brittany Vest, Anna Sitar, Amy Song, Shayla Mitchell, Tony Bravo, Alan Chicken Chow, Christy Scott, and Julian Brzezinski. I mean, like I said, maybe they're like super involved. You know what? It never means anything that I don't know anyone. You know what I mean? They could be. They could be influential. I think we

people are like so hard on them too because it's like they're calling the magazine is calling them the new A-list and maybe they don't want that time like I'm not an A-list but maybe they're thrusting on and then people are like who the F are these people you know what I mean and it's not their fault like obviously Hollywood Reporter calls you up and is like do you want to do a photo shoot where we call you the new A-list you're like okay

Yeah, yeah. I will say, I mean, I don't have any insider information on this, but I will say people do get pushed by agents for this sort of thing. You know what I mean? Funny you say that because at the bottom of the 50 list, there's a whole special about like the best agents. And yeah. There it is, y'all. I, you know what? More power to you when we submitted for it, you know, but I'm going to pull a, who's the person who doesn't want to be submitted for a Grammy? Oh, no, I don't want to be him. I don't want to be him.

I, in general, like, it's like the people. It's like the people. We all go back to People Magazine, them showing engagements. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to just, like, have, like, a people branded on there and just, like, get paid to be on something. You know what I mean? Not that they're paying to be on it. I just, something doesn't happen organically. It doesn't feel organic. It's like how Tua, we go back to that, right? It's like, you want to know that there's a fandom behind people. And it's like, I don't know. If I want to be on the, you know, like, if you want to be A-list, like, just be A-list. You know, don't have to. But like you said, if they call, of course, I'll do it too. Yeah.

People are mean, though. People are so mean. I was seeing comments of people like, who are these people? I don't know anybody. And it's like, okay, well, there's five million influencers, so of course you won't know them. But, you know, influential, like you said, Britney, I mean, they're like all, they're everywhere at every red carpet and brand deals and Spotify and book deals. BrettonLynx, obviously, OG. So, you know, and all the other people, I mean, they're there for a reason. So obviously they got their foot in the door somewhere and everything. And when you look at like those young Hollywood ones, too, you look at the Vanity Fair, you're like,

Actually, they all became iconic. You always see sometimes like, where are they now? But actually, they're all everywhere. Kind of slaying, yeah. Yeah, they all slay actually. So, you know, give them a break. Does anyone – I mean, who really cares? When people get upset over that stuff, I'm just like, oh my God, who really cares? Like, let them be A-list. Let them be A-list. This is their moment. Yeah, it is funny.

Like you said, I'm sure like agents and PR have such like a big thing to do with it because like obviously there's other creators that are like have more followers, but like a Pokimane, like for some reason, like Pokimane. Yeah, Hasan. Yeah. Like QD Cinderella. Like they're so. QD Cinderella. No, QD Cinderella. Not Jason Derulo. Oh my God. Jason Derulo. Like a Ludwig. Jason Derulo. Jason Derulo. Jason Derulo.

One sneak. To me, that's who I think of the A-list because they are so...

like the views that they get on Twitch and stuff is crazy. Like they all have such big like companies and stuff that they're starting. Like Pokey is such like a girl boss down, you know? Absolutely. So to me, like that's like, if I was thinking of like a newer A-list, like a fresher A-list, it would kind of be them and obviously Brittany and Drew and stuff. But yeah, because some of the TikTokers, I guess, are like new, like you said, like started like a year ago or whatever. So it's like, I mean, like it's like good for them for getting that push. You know what I mean? I honestly,

honestly think like I I think my whole brand is not being that do you know what I mean it's like counterculture yeah yeah the counterculture the where's Trisha Paytas we want to see it it's like only my little stands out there you know there's a whole like subculture that's like gets me I think if I ever was like that status where all of a sudden I'm at the red carpets interviewing and I'm just I think people are like okay because it's like every influencer does and it's great and I think it's great and I'm secretly jealous of them but I think it's more like

I'm the, yeah, I'm the anti-establishment. Yeah, it's like Charlie and Ariana saying, it's a knife when you're finally on top. So it's better, I think, if you are. Yeah, I could have been on that remix too. Totally, totally. I always think that. It's crazy because people really do try to drag you down when you're on top. Yeah, if you were in there, I'm sure people would be like, I think it would be the opposite. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's better to be subversive. I think of all people, I don't want to be with Rhett and Link in there.

Not for anything other than I'm just trying to be, you know, against the coolness, you know? They just give me – I don't hate Rhett and Link at all, but they just give me, like, dad vibes. They just, like – are they dads? I have no idea. They just give me, like, whose dad is here. You know what I mean? Like, if he – they walked into a room, it's like, I don't know. Maybe – Yeah, it is. Especially, like, the stark contrast of all these, like, TikTokers. Yes. That's what it is. And it is jarring. I'm just kind of like, oh, like –

have their own cover is what i'm saying basically you know they should have done more and more like groups like who goes with who you know what i mean yeah like a britney and drew go well together then i feel like it makes sense for the other tiktokers you know yeah like if it was right and link philip defranco michelle fawn no i'm not i'm just thinking of older people dubious people we don't like i'm just i'm just thinking of older youtubers john and hank yeah right right the green brothers

Who else is older? Smosh. Smosh, yeah. Then I feel like that makes sense as a group, but... Wow, what a group that is. Who else is older? I don't know. Great Tall Big. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Okay, TTT. Yeah, interesting. I don't know. Well...

I have mad respect for the TikTokers out there, to be honest. I know they get a lot of hate when they go to like award shows and stuff like Billie Eilish. Oh, the TikTokers are here. Oh, the TikTokers over there. Mood. But they are moving and grooving. They're influential. They're making money. People are buying big houses with it. So I'm trying to ride that train with them. Mama kudos. Mama kudos, honestly. Hailey Bailey is paying $27,000 in rent or something a month. And it's like, that's crazy. Yeah.

good I mean it's definitely like a hustle too like social media is a hustle so I yeah like you said I'm someone wants to call me like A-list somebody put me on the cover I'm on Ladygun okay and it's a slay I don't know that's so funny I did see people all up in arms about it people are like who who are these people I know and I think the tweet got like over like a million views too and it was like the actual tweet itself didn't have that many likes but everyone like quote tweeting it and having viral like hate tweets about it I'm like damn Twitter is nasty Twitter is nasty yeah

Let them live, okay? It doesn't affect you. Gotta have the right PR. Another person who went viral on Twitter was Northwest after her new interview. And honestly, people were being mean to her. I think she did a... She was on the cover of Interview Magazine. Oh! Yeah. Wait, who else was on the cover? Someone I just Twitter was on the cover. Or maybe it wasn't the cover, but it was a spread in an interview. Oh, like a spread. Okay. Yeah. I saw someone else too, and I was like, oh, they're on the cover. Um...

But yeah, it was North and Kim. I'm sure they gave her the cut. Maybe it was multiples. Like, you know, one of those ones where they have like a collector. Right. And it really comes out like quarterly. I saw a cover. I saw her. Yeah. Oh, you did. Okay. I saw one on Twitter. That's so weird. I just saw somebody on Twitter. But yeah, it must be someone else. Because it was her and Kim, but it was like focused on North. Well, Kim was interviewing her. Yeah. Yeah.

And the most relatable thing she said on there was how she talked about the paparazzi. She said that, well, Kim asked her if she likes being on camera and North said, I like taking pictures of myself, but I don't like when paparazzi do. When I just woke up and there's so much paparazzi, I'm like, yo, I'm going to sue you. If I'm ready, if I'm not tired, if my outfit's good, I'm like, okay, I could take a picture.

But if she's not ready for it and the paparazzi are out there, she's going to sue. Northwest. Yes. Tea. I don't even know what suing is at that age. Because her mom's a lawyer. Is she? Kim? I don't know. She passed the bar. Because I remember on the thing, it was a big thing. Like, oh, I have to pass the mini bar. I thought she did pass the baby bar or whatever. Oh, okay. But what do I know? I don't know.

I thought that would be a bigger deal that she was like a lawyer. I feel like. I don't think she's officially there yet, but I think she's like, yeah, on the way. That's still a big deal. She has a mood. Northwest, I have to love Northwest. She has such a mood. I feel like she's another one too we get to protect. I feel like people just love to like hate on celebrity kids because they're rich or whatever and it's just like, ugh.

You know? I know. Same. Like, I think people were being too mean because everyone was like, oh my God, she's so annoying. But she's 11 years old. Oh my God. Like, what 11-year-old isn't a little bit annoying? You know what I mean? Everyone. Every child is. And she's funny. I feel like she's funny and some people just, I don't know.

I kind of love it, though. Paparazzi should leave kids alone. I saw Hilary Duff talking about her – you remember that viral one of her, like, basically yelling at the photographer to, like, not take pictures of her kids? Oh, yeah. She recently was, like, explaining it, how she's, like – it wasn't a regular paparazzi thing. She saw it. She was, like, a random man that was, like, really up close. And I did think about that. I was, like, how can paparazzi people just, like, take pictures of these kids and sell it? Like, you're taking pictures of minor. And maybe it's not as extreme as, like, CP, but it is still taking pictures of a child and, like, selling it. And it's, like, how is that even –

They're not 18. They're not consenting. Like, how can they just basically steal a photo and make money off of it? Yeah, it is weird. Who's buying these photos of children? Well, it was all, like, the publishers and stuff and, like, news outlets. But this was fairly recent. I remember one of the big people who was trying to, like...

go around and change it was Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard. Oh, really? And there was other celebrities, but I remember specifically Kristen Bell was one of the big ones. So she went to every entertainment news outlet and was basically talking to them about if our kids are in the photos, don't buy them, basically. And so now all the ones that are celeb-friendly, like E.T. or E.,

They won't buy photos if they like we can't use any photos that the kids are in them and it's out in public. Like if Kristen Bell takes her kids to like Frozen 3 premiere, then you can use the photos. But if they're like getting ice cream on the street, then we can't use the photos or we have the blur. If anyone were to use them, they blur the face. There's only like a couple outlets that still use pictures of kids. But who?

I don't it's like I can't I don't want to say which ones because I don't know which ones but it's like one of the more like salacious ones I guess that should be illegal for sure I think that's like so weird and people buying the pictures of the kids because it's like okay if they want the picture out there they'll post them or they'll take them to a premiere or they'll do something you know what I mean like that's uh hey there's nothing that pisses me off more than that one time someone like took a picture they like snuck a photo and I was like just not like the kids only because you don't know where they're gonna end up to be the argument's like oh well you post them but it's like you don't know where that picture's gonna end up and who they're sending it to and all that kind of like

Yeah.

have no idea it was the most bizarre thing and I'm just like okay so I was like take a picture I sent it to send it to Moses I'm like this baby just like got a picture with me he was so confused by he's like what I'm like I don't know I was like trying to take a picture of this person just like push their baby in there and it was the fear it was the most odd thing but it just felt so weird I was like don't put you don't like what you don't know me like why are you pushing this baby there was a cute baby and then I had I told him to make him feel better like obviously like I have a baby at home like I'm not a weirdo because I was like that's such a weird thing to do like it was so weird especially like a horror coffee place so it's like all these like

creepy like demons behind me and I was like I don't know if you want your baby in that but and I said I'm like well it was like a six month old baby and I was like oh your baby's really good like I feel like my baby would be scared of all these like things in here and he's like oh yeah whatever

People are bizarre, I guess. They want to put their babies in everything, but... And paparazzi, too, because a lot of the photos, like, the turnaround is so fast. So then, like, if you're with... Like, if Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds are, like, paparazzi with their kids, and then they get posted, like, right away... Or Vanessa Hutchins after she gave birth. Oh, yeah, exactly. Like, literally leaving the hospital in the wheelchair. I would be so pissed. Like, actually, that happened to us, too. It was, like, a week after we gave birth at Brent's. I was like...

People are so – they're freaks. They're freaks. I'm sorry. You're a freak if you're trying to take a picture of someone's kid. Like you're so weird. And then to post it on top of that, I guess it's like one thing, whatever. Like I said, that baby was forced in my picture so I like took it. I was like, okay. But like I – what? And it's just another thing to do it and be like posted on like Reddit or something. I'm like, you're a weird person. And like if people want to share their babies, they share their babies. Let them share it. Yeah, I do respect now more people like –

blur out faces or whatever don't show kids on like other things because like I said it's like one thing to put out on your platform but to have it on I don't know a place that could have hate or people being mean or whatever I don't like it especially kid stuff weird but I love I love North West she's always a vibe I loved her on the show too like when they met when they were at the Met Gala and she was just like calling everyone's outfits ugly or would you call the pearls cheap she's like they look cheap but they look fake and the guy's like oh god this is like my worst nightmare laughing

And then Kim's like, they're not. She's like, well, you have an opinionated daughter. I love it. I love it. I think it's cute. I think she's going to have an album coming out soon. Oh, yeah. Is that what she was promoting? Actually or no? Well, it's more Kanye and Kim are promoting her all the time. And I think the buildup is towards an album and some stuff. Most of the criticism I saw was more for the parents and not her.

That's so interesting. Yeah, I think a lot of people are like, oh, she's definitely like Kanye's daughter or whatever. But Kim like was also like a little ham as like a kid. Like she loved being in front of the camera and she was playing on little shows and stuff. No, for sure. Yeah. Her early paparazzi stuff is like so, you know, so iconic and so her. So that's so funny. People are like that. It's not a bad thing. I don't know. And also, yeah, I don't know. I kind of.

It's so hard to have famous parents like that, though. Like, so famous. And also, Connie is so polarizing right now. Like, it's just probably a lot for a kid. Yeah, at least I think they're pretty sheltered to, like, the negative stuff. Like, I don't think she realizes. Yeah, it does sound like that. Which is, I think, good. It's like, not no, you know. Yeah, kind of. I mean, that's – I always talk about it. Like, you know, when you have your baby and you just don't, like, want to embarrass them. And it's like – not to say Connie is, like, embarrassing. Obviously, he's done a lot. But it's like to have such a polarizing parent, like –

I think that's why it like stopped me. I just don't want to be that person that's always like, oh my God, your mom's like so mean or your mom's crazy. It's just like sad for the kid. But is he getting a divorce? My mom is so into Kanye. Bianca, is that her name? Yeah. Kanye, Bianca. She always send me updates on them. I'm like, she's like their biggest like watcher or something. I'm like, I've never seen anything about them. I mean, that's probably good. I just don't know how she gets away with not being arrested. Like being like literally naked in public with her outfits. Like she literally has boobs and ass. Yeah.

It is really weird. That's wild. If I wore that to Disneyland, like I would be arrested and had to be on some list. You know what I mean? Like that's just so weird. Don't they give people shirts? Like if somebody's not dressed enough, Disneyland will give you a shirt to wear. That's what they say. They say there's a hack to get free t-shirts. It's like if you go and be inappropriate. I've seen it on TikTok. They're like wear something with a lot of cleavage in your belly because then they'll give you a free t-shirt. I was like, yeah, it's not. No, then you're a freak at Disneyland like trying to show your body. That's so weird. People are weird.

Oh, wow. I think North has a pretty good attitude. I think she does really well. And yeah, she's a ham. Her parents are performers, entertainers, so she would be too. I see her on stage all the time with Kanye. Oh, really? Yeah, she's on stage with him. I remember she's like, what are those? These are clothes. And Kim crying. She's like, that'd be me for sure. Anything Malibu does. I cry now in ballet. I've heard his running around. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's so good. She's like running and I'm like, yeah. Oh my gosh. Well...

What else did they say in the interview? I love Interview Magazine. I was supposed to do an interview with them one time and it never happened. Oh, that'd be everything. That kind of fits with your vibe, I think. I love that. I love Interview Magazine. Anything else from there? No, that was, well, that was the part I cared about because I thought that was like, you know, she's actually onto something there. She's going to sue if she doesn't look good. I'm like, that honestly is, see, like, I would hate that if I didn't like my outfit that I was paparazzi-ed. Like, if I was paparazzi-ed with the witch outfit with the nose, I'd be like, no. Did you wear it out in public? You didn't even have to be paparazzi-ed. You willingly went on camera like that, so.

That's where you're. If I was walking out and you had paparazzi outside. Like we were in like, you know, Hollywood or something. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, who even makes that anymore? Because it's just like, I mean, whatever. I liked it, but it's such a funny thing. I know. I was like, it was all in one section. I'm like, I guess. Where'd you go? Party City? Party City, yeah.

You know Spirit Halloweens are not going to be Spirit Christmases after Halloween season's over? Yeah. I love that. I love that they're like transitioning into that. Me too. They should because there really is no like Christmas store, right? No. They're so hard to find. I guess like Michael's and Target and stuff like that. Yeah. But it's not the same. Like the Christmas section versus the store. We need to have Halloween first because Christmas stuff is already coming out. I'm like, oh, we need to have Halloween. Because I really do love Halloween but it goes so quick because everyone's like, and Christmas is here, you know. Our Thanksgiving had turkeys out yesterday and I – or Thanksgiving.

Our church had turkeys out and it was so cool. I had a sequins turkey. It was so pretty. They had little platters out, little corn platters. I love a Thanksgiving too. I don't love the reason we celebrate, but I like to eat the food, you know? The turkey, the mashed potatoes, the mac and cheese, the whole shebang. So good. You should do a Thanksgiving song. Not until I'm in a Thanksgiving movie if I'm in there. Oh, good point. They were supposed to be filming now, but I guess they postponed production until March because I literally asked my friend, I was like, um, when is that filming? He's like, not until next year. I was like, oh.

Give me time to lose some weight. That's always my goal. Time to lose some weight. Oh, I had a Zachary Levi update because you seem pretty interested in him. It was kind of tea. Yeah, I was surprised a lot of people didn't know that he was kind of a menace. But I think it's part of our impact because then... Totally. Deadline had an article and they had a source reporting or whatever.

um that said zachary levi is bitter that his role in shazam didn't make him the next chris evans or the rock oh my god is he serious never saw it but can guarantee by that poster you are not the new chris evans or the rock um because uh he did a campaign uh supporting trump and he's like oh i'm gonna be canceled after this like i'm gonna be blacklisted from hollywood and then they were like actually like your career was already over like it

The deadline kind of clocked and we're like, no one was really checking for you. Because his last movie, as you remember, was Harold and the Purple Crayon. Oh, yeah. Cool.

Classic. Love that one. Wait, what was the controversy around that? There was something weird around that. He said, don't see Deadpool and Wolverine. Go see Harold and the Purple Crayon. But that was a fake. It ended up being like a fake Instagram. Oh, it wasn't real? No, but it sounds like something he would say. Yeah. We're going to go with it. It's totally believable. A source told them that when he was cast as Shazam, it was literally his dream. He thought this was his ticket to being The Rock or Chris Evans, but it didn't happen for him and he's bitter about it.

So now he's doing just religious films. So the source is saying that that's why he's branding himself like that to get like the conservative money. Whenever they go there, if you go religious, look, be religious. But when you go that direction, it's like I think at that point, it's like you're either a really sh**ty

Like Mark Wahlberg. You're like, I'm religious now. So all that stuff doesn't matter. Look at my ass because I'm wearing on Ash Wednesday. Or it's like, yeah, you're trying to just go this completely different like rebrand. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this didn't work for me. Let me go to the religious side because they'll accept me. I hope they reject him too. You know what I mean? I hope they're like, no, not you. He's.

dubious he definitely is dubious he's dubious he thinks he's gonna play Flynn Rider in the live action I was like no no sweetie no no no um hmm I don't know why he thought career I'm really trying to think I know like you're not a good actor like you're a good singer like voice acting would have been great if he would have just kept like doing that and not talking yeah should have taken a page from shout out to the patreon where we talked about Alabama Barker but should have pulled Alabama Barker I don't know yeah

Actually, though. You know, in general, people should just not talk as much. Yeah. Just not as much. You know what I mean? On a three-hour podcast, yes, our advice is to not talk. Well, we're different. Actually, like, you actually have a lot of credentials. You're a smart and went to college. Me, I have nothing else, so I will...

screams like him just wanting attention to be like I'm about to get cancelled nobody cares enough for you to be cancelled sweetie like I don't know I don't know what to tell you it was over at Harold and the Purple Crayon yeah why did they make that that's a good question is that based on a kids book I feel like I read that I think so yeah

I wonder how much money that lost. Like, that was crazy. And who blames? Who gets the blame? Like, does Zachary Levi get, like, a deduction from his paycheck? I think he just doesn't get work. Because they're like, wow, you can't open a box office. I do not want him here. He's one guest. He's bad. Yeah. He just feels bad energy. I don't know. When we bring him up and when he's talking about this stuff, I'm like, oh, I just feel like you have bad energy. Like, oh, no, I went to Trump. Hopefully nobody cancels me. It's like, nobody cares. So why are you even talking? Like, I don't know.

Go stay on that side. That is crazy. I don't know. People are. They'll probably do a movie like Daddy's Home 3 with Mel Gibson and Mark Wahlberg soon. And throw him in there. Yeah. Zachary Levi. Yeah, Zachary Levi will be in that mix too. They start their own little club that no one wants. Speaking of dubious men, we're talking about spooky men. Gene Simmons. Oh my God, I had one of those too. That was wild. Yeah. I hate him. I hate him.

God, why do men not get canceled? Is he older or is it because he's a man? Like, why don't these people... I guess no one cares. Maybe he's like Zachary Levi where it's like...

Do you know what I mean? Like, nobody cared. The gag is people have to kind of care about you to cancel you, right? I think that's what it is. Like, to be canceled. Like, I got canceled again. Oh, my God. And it's a big uproar. Like, Logan Paul, he kind of probably thrives on it or whatever like that. But I think someone brought up – I don't know who. Someone in, like, my life was like, oh, did you hear about FouseyTube? And I was just like, no. No. And don't care. Like, well, he's this, this, and this. I'm like, he's just like – I don't know. I have no idea. Hopefully, he's doing well. I know he has, like, mental problems. But, like, I just – everything else, I'm like, I don't –

I don't care at all. Like, you know what I mean? And I think that's the case with people who like want to get canceled. Yeah. They want to feel relevancy. Yeah. Like Matt Rife when he canceled, like he did that stuff to get canceled too. Thriving. Yeah. He probably tries to do more of that. Like, oh, let me think of another thing, a way to get canceled. I feel like to get canceled, you have to have an audience that thinks that you stand for something that you don't stand for. Right. I guess that's kind of is the nugget. So like, look at like a Logan Paul, like,

could he really get canceled? Because I feel like his audience doesn't care about his antics. You know what I mean? That's true. They're not invested in that. Like if his audience was like, I don't know, like our audience, then I feel like he would get canceled. That's true. I feel like Gene Simmons' audience is dead. Exactly. They're no longer around. Just too old to watch the Anting with a Star. Like they don't care. Yeah, that's so true. I mean, he is old. How old is he? He has to be like 75, I bet. That's a good question. Let me see. I guess when you're old, you just get a pass.

For being obnoxious. He's 75. Yeah. You got it exactly. Oh my God. That's crazy. Because I am not a Gene Simmons fan. I know nothing about him. But that's actually wild. 75. I think in general. And like when we're 75, I'm going to stand by this. I think in general, 75 year olds also need to just chill. Like, you know what I mean? Unless you're on the Golden Bachelorette. Or Golden Bachelorette. Like, I don't want to hear from you. Because like. Because they do say outlandish things. And we do give them grace because of that.

Just think about it. Okay, when we're like in 40 years from now, like we think we're so woke, but probably something will be so outdated that we're saying, right? That's true. Like maybe pronouns will be banished or something and we're saying he, she. They're like, oh my God, Mom, you can't say he, she, anyone. Like, you know what I mean? And whatever, whatever the case will be. And it's like, well, we didn't know. I was like, you know, we thought...

You know, we thought we were doing something okay, but there's probably something where you can't, whatever it is, and you can't adjust. So I guess we just have to, you know, I don't know. There's always something new. And I just think old people, you know, it's like Pauline, I guess, got a pass because she's old. And I don't know, people, you're old. What can you expect, you know? So he, um, I know the context. He got sex.

He was the guest judge on Dancing with the Stars, which, okay, to start there, why the hell was Gene Simmons? I guess it was rock night. I get that it was rock night. But that would be like, it's pop star night, and then me and you are like the judges on Dancing with the Stars. That's Morrison!

It does, but it's also like, what the hell do we know about the technique and the pirouettes or whatever? You know what I mean? Oh, so true. Yeah, when it comes to dancing, that is wild, actually. They could have gotten an actual dancer that's a rock star. You know what I mean? Exactly. Like someone who at least has more experience. Like Freddie Mercury or something. Something, right? Even like JoJo. She kind of is rock. I would have much rather have JoJo as her karma's a bitch than this guy. Yes, Gene Simmons. So he faced a lot of backlash because he...

Had a lot of like weird sexist commentary while he was judging the show. He said that – he told one couple like this is a brand new experience for me and it's difficult to look at you and figure out which one is more hot, hot, hot. Oh, wow. At least he was equal there. At least he wasn't so misogynistic. He said that to Whitney Carson and Danny Amendola. And then he told Chandler Kinney that her jive routine was so hot it fogged up his glasses. Wow.

He said, you move me not just with your gyrations and so on, but your beautiful face and how you were into the emotion of it. Ew. Okay, grandpa with the gyrations. It's so weird. That's what I'm saying. I think it's just such a different generation where like that was appropriate when he was younger to be like, your gyrations, but it's like now it's like, don't look

my pubic area. Yeah. And then Chandler, who the comment was to, it was like she kind of like laughed at it. But then Brandon, her partner, was like, I have a little sister. So that is like really weird. And he said that. Yeah. He said in an interview, like he was protective over it. Like he didn't like that. After. Yeah. Not to him. It was after. To his face. And then he tried to give Brooks Nader like a 10, I think. Yes. Yes. Hot.

And then it was all... Just rating people based on their looks. It was all very weird. Yeah. And he did a follow-up interview. Gene Simmons did a follow-up interview with the Daily Mail and said that, I stand by every word I said. I had a great time. The contestants were great. The show was great. So he has no regrets. Yeah.

I think he's just, you know, needs to be committed or something. Because like, what? How are you so unaware? Like, how is someone not around and be like, oh, you can't say that. You shouldn't say that. I guess, again, at that age, you don't care. You're just like, whatever. Like, I don't know. But ew. Yeah. I've always turned him down. I was offered the Gene Simmons family jewel show to play a hooker in his limo. And I was like, no, because at the time I was an actual hooker. And I was thinking, well, the whole

the whole world think I'm a hooker. It's like, I guess reality TV, they wouldn't think that, but I was like, no, but it always gave me the ick. I was like, oh, I don't know if I want to be a hooker for Dean Simmons. You know what I mean? That sounds, I don't know. It sounds awful. He's awful. He sounds awful, right? I don't know. I think everything, and then Phaedra, Phaedra read him to Phil. Oh, yes, she went off. I love. Because I think in the moment, you're kind of like shocked. You're kind of like taking in what he's saying because she said it after, but like in the moment, you're probably just like, wait, what just happened? Because the way he says things is like so weird. Gave her a,

five. A five. You're giving every other person a ten because they have like a hot girl or whatever like that but you're giving her...

a five. And all the other judges, I think, scored her up where they're like eights or sevens or something like that. So definitely not a five. And I think they were shook too because she's actually very good. She's very good. She's way better than a lot of the other couples he scored higher for. And it wasn't their worst dance. It was so, so odd. And, you know, she read them to fill it. I love Fader's comebacks. I love her. I love her on Traitors. I love her on Dancing with the Stars. And she read it as it was. You know what I mean? Just kind of...

Maybe ageist, racist, like all that stuff. What it appears to be allegedly, whatever. In your opinion, yeah. Yeah, I was just like, and that makes sense, you know? I don't know. Anyways, and no one called him out. The whole thing was weird as hell. Like, it just didn't make sense. Like, even in the pitch meeting, if I was in the pitch meeting at ABC and they were like, hey, Gene Simmons, what if we have Gene Simmons to be the judge at Rock Night? I'd be like, what are you? Like, no. No.

I'm trying to think, though. Like, who else? I mean, I guess it's probably who they could get. I'm trying to think. Like, I'm sure they could have gotten someone else. I'm sure. I'm actually positive they could have gotten just about anyone else. I really think JoJo would have been the answer. I honestly do think so, too. And she would have said yes. And she couldn't have dated any of them. So it's a win-win situation.

T, T, T, T. Yes, that would have been, yeah, that would have been better. No, yeah. Just a mess. This is why old people get a reputation like this. And that's why Rene Rapp goes after them. It's like, because it's these kind of old people. It's like, you're not doing us any favors, okay? I love that you came around on the Rene Rapp of it all too. I see her point now.

There's certain old people that give me inspiration, you know, like Kathy Griffin. She has a new series on TikTok called her Tuna Meltdown. Have you seen that? She eats a tuna melt and rants. And I'm like, I love this series. Oh, kind of love that. It's so good. Yeah. I love when people can come up with like series like that. I think it's, she's friends with Sia. Sia's always singing at her house. Just, God, to be, to be like just retired in Malibu when you're that age is like old and like don't care. I guess that's a good thing.

It's always the men that are just dubious. The women seem to be shulling for the most part. Like Ellen kind of just disappeared and went quiet. Yeah. Well, went out with a bang at least. She came back. Yeah, she came back and then went out again. I feel like she got a little redemption, at least from me. I know it's hot take, but I had a little soft spot for Ellen. I thought she was, you know, she's not doing Botox. When you show those wrinkles, that's showing real, you know, and I liked it. Real recognizes real. Yeah, exactly. Why are we getting Botox all day, every day? Real recognizes real.

Oh, Dancing with the Stars. I think your time has come to an end. I guess people watch it. People really do watch it. It's been on so long. And I honestly thought like just old people watched it. But then. No. I think it really. When was it? Like when did it turn around and get so like cool and young again? I don't know. Like a lot of like younger people watch it now. Was it like. TikTok? Oh, you mean like what turned it? Like, I don't know. Maybe JoJo. Maybe, right? With the same sex dancing. And like Charlie too. Right. It became cool again. I feel like. The TikTok dances.

Oh, yeah. Just dancing came back. Just like makeup came back around. People love Dancing with the Stars. The quarantine. What was last season? I remember last season being kind of popular too. Harry Jowsey. Oh, right. The scandals of it all. I guess because like also too they do TikTok trends. Like the dancers are now doing like TikTok trends and stuff like that. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. Okay, I'll be on it. I wanted to, you know, you know what I want to do? We watch it because it's like family friendly. It's like, you know,

for Malibu and stuff but I love Masked Singer do you watch that one not in a while it's the worst show in the whole world like it's awful because it's like there's no point there's no point to this show the whole thing is like the judges are guessing the judges are there to guess who they are but like it doesn't matter if they guess it if they know the person the person is eliminated if they know the person the person doesn't win I'm like so what's the why are we doing this and then

And they don't even vote. Nobody votes. There's no number to vote for your favorite. Wait, how do they get eliminated then? Okay, right. That's what I'm saying. So Dancing with the Stars, there's like a number, right? You can vote or whatever. Go online and vote. That's what I was thinking too. I was like, there's no number. This is so odd. There's a paid audience and the audience... Supposedly the audience votes. Supposedly, but they don't really. They have little iPads and they're like, okay, audience, lock in your votes or whatever.

No, and I have a hunch they film it, like, within, like, a couple weeks of all the episodes because Vanessa Hudgens was on last time. She won. Yeah, I remember that. But she wasn't pregnant, and she was pregnant at the time that I was airing. So I had a feeling, because, you know, it seems like every week, okay, new week, who are we voting to eliminate? But I think they just film the entire thing, and then the audience, like, votes off whoever. Yeah.

I don't think it's real. I don't think it's all made up. It's... No, because the audience is obviously paid audience. They have no... Because they get so excited about everything. There's no way. Some people are like people we never heard of and they're like so excited about them. Yeah. They're like, okay, this is obviously, you know... It's such a bad show, but I want to be on it. I love Nick Cannon. I do love the judge. I love every judge. I do love Jenny McCarthy. Not the other one. Who's the blurred lines guy? Robin Thicke. Oh my God. Yeah. He gives me the...

why would they have him host that show? Like it's a family show and he's like, you did this song called Blurred Lines about, oh, I don't know if the girl wants it. She's saying no, but I'm like, I think yes. Like what? I think that alone should cancel him for life. Like that's a, or at least apologize for it and be like, that's not what I meant. It was of the time. He never has. And every time I see him, I just think of that. I'm like, hey, Robin Thicke.

But everyone else is great. Rita Ora, Ken from Community. I love everyone else. Nick Cannon, we love him too. But everyone, he gives me the ick. But I do love the costumes. They're fierce. They probably won't put me on now that I said I don't like Robin Thicke. It's fine. I stand by it. But I love it. Look, Paul was on. I don't know. We're watching it now. Who was just eliminated? Someone, I don't know. I don't know any of the people either. It's very Hollywood Reporter where it's like, maybe I don't know all these people, but

for them for being on. I would say yes. You know what I mean? I like it. I like that show. I'd like to be on that show but maybe that's not for me. I remember when Wendy Williams was on. That was the best one. She was the lip. Best singer? Yes. I remember it was 2020 because it ended up being like a TikTok sound trend. She was like, like a native New Yorker.

Oh, wait, really? And then she ended up like, she was singing. I don't think she lasted very long. She was singing this song and then she ended up like laughing. Christian's so unserious. Was she singing live? I think so because she literally was laughing. She's like, like a native New Yorker. And then she was like, she almost fell and she was laughing at herself. That's iconic. I,

I've never seen that. I gotta see it. And she has the red lips, which makes it, like, even more... It was just so funny. They had one time a plate of spaghetti, and I'm like, ooh, I'd be that. That's everything. Or a Korean fried cheese dog. That'd be me. That'd be so cool. I would love to, like, see...

Like, whoever's costuming the Masked Singer should costume us for, like, next Halloween. They should be winning Emmys. Like, those costumes are so beautiful. They're so good. They're so beautiful. So cool. The stuff they come up with is amazing. It is actually wonderful. Yeah, I think Dr. Drew lasted – like, a lot of people only last, like, one episode because you get, like, eliminated pretty quick if you're, like, not a good singer. Dr. Drew was pretty good, though. I would just love to be on, like, one episode. Who was the worst? Oh, um –

Caitlyn Caitlyn Jenner did you see her on it? Oh my god I forgot she was on it. That was the most insane. The Kesha where it's like oh oh oh oh. That sounds good. She was so so awful that was the wildest thing ever. Oh god I mean some of these people they have on there. I think Ninja was on there. Logan. What? Yeah they had it's always the dubious boys of course it would be.

I didn't know they sang live. I swore they would have sung like pre-recorded because you can record those big heads and stuff. They do look sweaty though when they take the heads off. They always do look. God, I would love to be on there. That would be such a dream. Maybe after Trishmas they'll cast you. They'll see my performance. Come to the show December 15th. Masked Singer casting. We'd love to have you on there. Jonathan Bailey is doing his own dancing in Wicked. Did you see that?

That's your answer. It was awesome. It's so good. Wait, would you need this stunt double for that? Ariana, Cynthia, everyone. I'm sorry I didn't even see the ET posted about it. There was a whole clip about it. This is so good. Because usually you have like a stunt double. Like do the dancing, all the hard work and stuff like that. They're like, nope, he did it all himself. All the footwork, everything. He slid with the book, slid it back. And actually, you know what? That's actually tea because I really didn't think there was a stunt double too. I was watching it and I was just like,

There's no way it's him, but he is actually a classically trained dancer. And he would practice on the set of Bridgerton and everyone would say, oh my God, what is he doing? And he's like, oh, he was filming both at the same time. Once again, proving Jonathan Bailey can do no wrong and he is perfection in every way. Even Cynthia and...

Ariana was like, he's actually the most. And Scarlett Johansson said that too. Wow. Everyone's just magnet to him. Everyone just loves him, hypes him up. And People's Sexiest Man is coming out in like two or three weeks. Did you get it? Well, people are speculating because it's always who's promoting something, right? So there's short lists of names who are promoting something. Jonathan Bailey. He'll get it.

There's no one in the person. Pedro Pascal. No. What? What? He's not in the running. This is, it's just speculation. It's hard to tell. Who's speculating? You or some, who? Like, it's just Twitter and Reddit. Like, because it's like, okay. Oh, there's a list. Okay. Well, it's like a, it's just a, because you think about, okay, like who has projects in the works or like who's around right now. Okay. Yeah. So this is like a short list based on like what, who has been around lately, who's promoting stuff. Okay.

The names that have been thrown around a lot are Jonathan Bailey, Travis Kelsey, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Manny Jacinto, Pedro Pascal, Glenn Powell, Adam Brody, Joshua Jackson, Matt Bomer, Sebastian Stan, or Andrew Garfield. Nobody. None of them. They're all no. So just Jonathan Bailey is the only one for you? Yeah. For real. Like, right? Being unbiased and you're unbiased. You're unbiased. Like, who even...

Like physically. Just don't even think about me. Don't even think about this. Like physically who is more attractive? Like there isn't. Like he's so perfect symmetrical. He sings. He's so nice. Like you see him signing autographs outside the late show. Like he's real. He sings. He dances. He does British and he does Wicked. He's like...

he plays, he's a lover for everybody. Like, I just don't understand. He's a lover for everybody. Yeah, everybody loves him. Like, I don't understand. He's a lover. Like, how does, you know, how does anyone else, I don't get it. I just don't get it. Like, I like Andrew Garfield, but what? Like, he's not sexy. I mean, he's, you know, good actor. I think,

I think Andrew Garfield is sexy. No, I'm what? Manny Jacinto is really sexy. Who's Manny Jacinto? I don't know him. He's really hot. He was in this Star Wars thing recently. I think he's in something else too. I think Star Wars should be banned. No Star Wars people. Okay, they get enough notoriety in their own little fandom. I honestly...

Out of the list, I would probably say Pedro Pascal is probably the number one. But he already got it, didn't he? No. I swear he was. No, not like... Because remember last year was the strike, so they had to give it to someone random. So they gave it to Patrick Dempsey because he was the only one that would do it. And wasn't Pedro was supposed to kind of get it? Allegedly, yeah. So he might get it this year. And he's in Gladiator. Yeah. He's not part of the rat pack. Again, he's handsome, but...

I don't, you know, I'm not the sexiest man. Like, maybe just honorable mention. Yeah, I can be unbiased. I'll be like, okay, yeah, he's good looking, okay? But, like, not sexiest. That's so crazy. That's so wild. Has he ever done a love scene like Jonathan Bailey? Jonathan Bailey does love scenes with everybody. He could do love scenes with a couch. He's just, like, so good. And I just don't understand, like, Pedro Pascal doesn't give me that, like, sexual tension in anything. Except, what, with Baby Yoda, he, like, had him on his back, you know? It's like there's no chemistry. It's...

Where's his chem test with who, you know? Well, this is also the same one. They did like Blake Shelton. You know what I mean? So I don't know if like sexiest man. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I think it's just. Okay, well if it's not Jonathan Bailey, it's definitely paid. We're going to do Hollywood Reporter on them and be like their PR, their manager got them in there. Blake Shelton's wild. That's a wild pick. It was a wild one, yeah. Like who says that? Who is like, oh, we all love Blake Shelton. I think we're universally like, I don't know about him. He's the original Zach Brown or Brian or whatever his name is.

Right? He's kind of just like dubious. Yeah. I'd say like I could also see maybe like an Adam Brody. He's kind of having a moment right now. No, absolutely not. But yeah, Jonathan Bailey does make sense. And he would be the first out gay sexiest man alive. So it would also be big for LGBT. Isn't that crazy? I was like, wait. There's never been a gay man out sexiest man alive? Not like an out gay sexiest man alive. Yeah. Jonathan Bailey would be the first. Oh, my God. They definitely need to know.

But that's actually wild considering the top 10 sexiest men in my head. Like Matt Bomer, I think. Like he should have gone there before. He really is like insane. Like literally created by like God personally. You know what I mean? He is a perfect looking human. Yeah. I don't know if he has – I do love him too. And I love him in Final Travel. I don't know for me and the world. He doesn't have as much universal appeal. Like everyone was obsessed with him in Bridgerton. Like everyone loves Anthony and Kate. They're all like, oh my – you know what I mean? Like –

Everyone will be obsessed with him in Wicked. Matt Bomer, he said what, he was in Suits or something? He was in, it was Blue Collar, I want to say. I don't think, like right now, with Matt Bomer. It's his moment. Yeah, because he doesn't really have a big project. I would have thought like back in the day when he was on that like, I think it was called Blue Collar or White Collar or something. Never even heard of it. I think maybe around then you should, like I could have seen him been on it before, but I think right now. Ricky Martin's

Not the number one. Not like the sexiest man. I do want to say that is kind of crazy there's been no gay guys on there because like I said, 9 out of 10 of my top 10 is gay men. I was going to ask that because I was wondering who is it for, right? Like who did they want to buy this magazine from?

You know, so are they trying to put men that... I would have bought for Ricky Martin. I 100% would have bought for Ricky or like, I just think like, especially because like women now, I think we just like want more sexy gay men than straight men because like sexy straight men are just the devil amongst us, to be honest. You know what I mean? They really are. And I just, I like the ones who are open. I like the ones that are queer. I like the ones who don't say what they are. I like that one. Someone just so toxic masculine. Like, I don't like that. Like, what was he, Logan Paul in there? No. Yeah.

Not that he's like the sexiest, but like, you know, I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't know. I just think it has to be Jonathan Bailey. That doesn't make any other sense. And you know, I never get obsessed with someone like this unless I think they're like just the perfect human. And I think he is. So that's so weird. That'd be amazing. Oh, my God. I know. I really think everybody would be happy. Girls, guys, non-binary. Everyone's going to love him. They do. Right. Everyone loves him. And it's just like, that's it. Pascal, like I said, he's just, I don't know.

The other ones, anybody worth mentioning? I mean, I feel like Travis Kelsey a little bit too much right now. Do we really need more Travis Kelsey? I don't think so. Yeah, because he kind of looks like the guy I love is blind, looks like Travis Kelsey. Everyone kind of looks like Travis Kelsey. He's kind of just out there. He's like a generic face. We love him that way.

Glenn Powell, I feel like... No. No. I feel like he... You can give it to Glenn Powell anytime. Like, who cares? You know what I mean? He's kind of, like, basic to me. Like, pretty, but basic. No, I agree. Pretty basic. Go on that podcast. That's you. That's Glenn. You're also pretty, but not basic. He...

Yeah, like he is kind of like vanilla to me. I'm like, you know. Right, right, right. He looks like everybody. Joshua Jackson's very handsome. Don't know him. He's older, right? He's older. Don't know. I really... Aaron Taylor Johnson is hot. He has a great body, but... No. Doesn't really have like a big thing to promote right now. All I know is he's married to that older lady, right? Yeah. And everyone hates her. Yeah. Everyone's always like, I hope they divorce next. I'm like, oh my God. I don't know much about them other than their inappropriate age gap, but...

I guess I'm on that train. I really think either Jonathan Bailey or Pedro Pascal. Why should it be someone completely not on the short list? And I'd be like, damn. Oh, then you know it's set up. Yeah. It's Rhett and Link. That PR company needs a raise. That's for sure.

That's, when does it come out? I do love, we got the issue last time, remember? Yeah, at the beginning of November, the first week of November. Going. Yeah, we're almost there. Oh, everything's happening that first week of November. Oh, yeah. It's a lot. It's a big political, it's like Sexiest Man and then the presidential. And the Wicked Premiere. Yeah.

So much happening. Oh my god, action packed. I have another announcement November 1st. So I also have a big announcement. It's very exciting. It's my collab that's coming. It's a big collab with a mainstream something. What could it be? I'm so excited. We just got the thing in the mail. And I'm like so excited for it. It's the first time seeing it. I was like, it's so cool. It's big. And it's wild. But it's a very, it makes sense when you see it. But that's an expected collab. But it's big and it's mainstream. Lunchly. Yeah.

Lunchables and meat claps as a competition. Trish Lee. I would love that. That would be tea. Well, that announcement's coming November 1st, so check it out. I vote Moses as the sexiest man alive. You look like everybody. You look like Jonathan Bailey. You look like Jeff Goldblum. You look like everyone except for Petra Pascal. Although you did Petra Pascal one year. You dressed up as the Mandalorian, which was... That was my favorite. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you like Star Wars, right? Definitely the Mandalorian. Oh, man. I don't get it. I don't get it. But you guys did look cute as Baby Yoda in the Mandalorian. It was just the time. It was really popular. It was exactly me and...

Malibu. We were just sitting together watching it. And the way I would carry her would be exactly the same. Aww. Well, I think you're the sexiest man alive in my opinion. You should be on the cover. Maybe they'll do a feature on you. Oh, yeah. Because there was a big list. Like social media people? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Moses could be the water photographer. The sexiest water photographer out there.

So specific. Well, there's going to be one. It's going to be him, you know? Oh, that is good. Oh, my God. Malibu. Yeah. She was like one month old. That is crazy. She looks so freaking cute. It was cute. That's what. Oh, my God. You look just like Patrick Pascal. That's a good cosplay. Yeah. You look just like him. And Trisha too. I mean, I was the white thing. Oh, you're the sun. Yeah. I don't know if it's in the same field or movie, but.

I know it's Star Wars. I just don't know if it's in that one.

I don't know. I don't like it. But it was fine. Got to wear a helmet. No easy transition to this one, but it's a story I just wanted to talk about a lot because I'm kind of obsessed. I'm really on the Sidney Sweeney train right now. But there's been a lot of controversy around her new commercial. I don't know if you've seen it. I get it a lot while I'm watching Hulu. She's the new face of Dr. Squatch Soap Company, their new line of natural body wash. You haven't seen this? Oh, do you have the ad for it?

No. Oh, really? We get five in the ads. We get the most ads and we pay $80 a month for Hulu. Oh my God, that is so funny. Yeah, she is the new face of this like soap company and it's like full of like innuendos. She has like her boobs up and out, honey. Oh my God. They're like pushed up. She's like the – she's a genie. So like it's like really a skimpy top and like a skirt and it's all like in it. She goes – it's for –

This soap is for dirty little boys. Oh, my God. And it's all, like, very, like, hypersexual and stuff. Oh. Dirty little boys is, like, kind of questionable. She goes, in one of the ads, there's a few of them. In one of them, she goes, hello, you dirty little boys. Are you interested in my body wash? Yes.

um well you can't have it because this isn't for boys it's for men this is dr squash dr squash natural body wash with long-lasting natural aromas like wood barrel bourbon pine tar coconut castaway and fresh falls you'll finally get the attention you deserve so go to dr squash and quit being a dirty little boy it's all like very sexual she has there's another one where it's like coconuts and like there's coconuts running around her like boobs are bouncing oh my god and this is not like

Hulu? Yeah. Wow. It is pretty wild. Oh my god. I like. Wow. Because it's like a. They call it. It's like a coconut quake. So like the coconuts are flying everywhere. And she's like bouncing her chest or whatever. Oh my god. Who came up with this? So it's all about like granting like men's wishes or whatever. I kind of hate it. No hate on her. Hopefully she got paid a lot. I love it. I think she got paid a lot. That's the thing. So it's very divisive. Because some people are like. Oh it's kind of like the. It's giving like the Y2K. You know like the.

Carl's Jr. commercial vibes or whatever where it was like objectifying women or whatever. But even that's a little better. At least they're like women just being sexy washing a car. This is like catered to like are you a dirty little boy? Like who wrote that? I don't know. I kind of live if and I do think Sydney is like one of those people who's very like aware of her brand. Like kind of what Bowen Yang was talking about like actually like in that interview the other week where he's like you know

Bowen Yang said that Sidney Sweeney is very aware of her brand and was telling the writers when she was on SNL that they can sexualize her and make fun of her boobs and stuff. So I think she knows that is one of her assets and she is willing to...

Do it for a dollar and I think her price better be right for sure But no, I definitely love it. I think we I love when we have like a sex symbol Like I love like Sabrina Carpenter I love girls who are just like sex and sexual like I love those kind of girls with the girls I looked up to I think it's like when it becomes like men branding them, you know what I mean? I'd say I I like it. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it Hmm. I think like a female sexualizing like I

Kind of like Pamela Anderson was like, you know, when she did all those like PETA campaigns and she was like naked. It was always like her idea to do like the leaves. She did it in like a very like her way as opposed to when men. You know when they say like, oh, is this book written by a male or a female? Like it's just different. If Sydney Sweeney was written by a female and like sexual and sexy, it's like everything. Which I think is like Sabrina Carpenter. I think Sabrina Carpenter is like written by a female as opposed to like Sydney Sweeney has too many men writing for her. Because I think girls love Sydney Sweeney. I love Sydney Sweeney. Me too, yeah. I think girls love her.

Um, I think like this one is like, well, I don't know. No. Dirty little boys automatically. That's the first thing I was like, that's gross. That's so weird. Like who wrote that? Clearly she didn't and like whatever. But it's just like,

Like, I get it. Like, oh, no, it's for men only. But it's like, yeah, but you opened it with, like, you dirty little boys. Yeah. I don't know. I know. I keep going back and forth with it, too. Like, some people are like, why is she going to brand herself like this? Like, she's going to ruin her career by leaning into this too much. And then some people are like, oh, she's so smart for leaning into it. And I go back and forth, too. At first, I was like, this is too much. But I was like, if she's, like, in charge and, like, you know –

doing her own branding and stuff. Like, if she's in the meetings, which I kind of think she is because she is, like, a pretty involved, like, producer. Yeah. Like...

For the Glenn Powell movie, she was like the one that leaned into the rumors of them dating or whatever. Totally, yeah. And marketed that. For Madam Web, she kind of knew it was a hot mess, but she was like, I'm doing this movie so I can get my other movie made. She is kind of like a step ahead, I think. Totally. I agree. I think like sexualizing yourself and being the sex symbol and being that, like I totally think like absolutely do that. I think if they like left Little Boys out of it, it would have been much better. Maybe like a taste level.

thing. I think that's what it is. I think like I don't think there's any amount of money you could pay me to be like hey dirty little boys. Like that's so off putting and I don't care if it's like comedy or whatever. It's so

I don't know. I hate that. I hate it. Because even if she is like, you know, like little boys like look at her and think she's like attractive or whatever, I still think like marketing it to them or marketing it that way. It's not to them, obviously. It's for men, not dirty little boy. But it's just like, ugh, I don't know. That whole thing is like off-putting. But everything else sounds fine. Like the coaches, yeah, it is like a little bit piggish. It's a little Y2K. Like it reminds me of like the man show with Jimmy Kimmel where there's like juggies jumping on the trampoline. Which is like,

Which I loved as a kid. I was like, oh, I want to be that girl. So like I get it. But I think the writing on that one was really bad and like hopefully she got paid a lot. But, you know, especially like Dr. Squatch. Like who knows Dr. Squatch? You know, like apps or something. I see this. I'm like, what?

The writing sounds atrocious and horrible, but... Yeah, because at least, like, Sabrina Carpenter's, like, her... Like, she's doing the Redken ads, and, like, she's always like, I love a good bang. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But it does have more, I guess, of, like, a playfulness. Like, not so much male gaze, I suppose. She's, like, female. Yeah. And it's, like, a product primarily marketed towards women, you know? Yeah. So that kind of makes more sense. But I guess the difference is, like, Sydney is...

endorsing a product marketed towards men and to like even though I think Sydney's fierce like I think the men the straight men who are into Sydney are gross so yeah

feel like ugh yeah there's like ways to do it without being like just sounds pervy yeah and then you do then it's like then you do feel for her even though like you said she's probably in control she's probably in the meeting she's probably making a bunch of money but you still feel like ugh Sydney like are you okay yeah yeah like are you okay and she's like I'm fine I'm making bank like you know what I mean I think people do lean into like Pamela did without Cowardster like they lean into the sexualness and I love that

this script I don't love and I don't love Sasquatch or whatever it doesn't you know but maybe there's men out there let us know if you're a straight man or gay man that want to buy it because of Cindy Sweeney I kind of do are you you want to buy then it worked I think it did I just love Cindy Sweeney I really do I think I really do love again it's hard I think what made me switch on like Santa or more of us like hearing how smart she is about like

understanding, like being very self-aware about like what people like or what the guys like her for. And I feel like,

I could totally be wrong because I'm kind of projecting, but it kind of feels like she's almost like she knows the guys are like so easy to like manipulate because she's so hot and she has big boobs. Totally, yeah. So she's going to like market towards them because she knows that's like easy. And it's still like an open market, I feel like. You know what I mean? Limitless. There's no like hot, hot girls. There's not like a Pamela Anderson of our day where every guy is like, oh, she's so

You know, she'll be like, yeah, she'll be that icon later on when like Borat makes Borat 5. She'll be like, you know, the girl that's in it. She'll always be that hot girl. So I think she's smart. And then she also has the girls that like her, the gays that like her. Everyone likes her. So in that case, yeah. And she is obviously smart. Like you said, she's a producer. She has a company. She has like all this stuff, like a production company. She seems to be in on her joke and everything.

And Lindsay Lohan was kind of like that too. She was in on her boob joke a lot. Oh, yeah. Like SNL and stuff. Yeah. When she's like Harry Potter. And I always want to be that girl too. I was like, oh, God. That looks – it's empowering. I had my Katy Perry back in the day too. That's true. Like Teenage Dream. She might be a little more Sabrina coded though in the sense it was more like campy fun. But I do love her.

yeah, I do love anyone who can be a little sexual. But like, Sydney Sweeney does ooze like sexy. It's like hard not to like lean into it, you know? Yeah. Her body. Yeah. Like Sabrina, I think it's easier for her because she is like smaller. She is kind of like a doll, right? So it's easier for her to be like,

more i guess like almost like literally like a doll you know like the way she's dressed and stuff yeah where yeah like sydney especially how we learned we became familiar with sydney through euphoria which she was like literally he made her be like topless so much yeah i didn't know i didn't know all that that's why it kind of makes sense to people like that because i remember i think it was like little paul before he was like with nina was just like oh my god i'd do anything to date disney sweeney i didn't know anything about her but i was like

I was like, man, damn, this girl has a chokehold on people. And then I even see clips on Twitter actually of all things. I never really watched the past two episodes and I was like, oh my God, she was like naked so much all the time. Which I think is just like nothing on her. I'm just saying like in general, we don't need to see like high school kids being naked. You know, even if they're adults playing high school, I just don't want to see them naked. Yeah. And I don't know who wants to. Like you want to see people who look like high schoolers be naked? Like it's weird. Yeah. I think Euphoria –

that was like one of the ones where it's like because we talked about it before like I think with Andrew Garfield like our sex scenes like important to like the story and I feel like Euphoria 90% of the time it was just like no yeah yeah you gotta insinuate yeah you gotta insinuate they were so hardcore and they were always naked and it's like at the end of the day they're like portraying high schoolers like make it on that one hard pass no pun intended that was good thank you

Came up with it at the spot. So one of the more tea topics is the latest on Brianna Chicken Fry. Oh, my God. This is all over me for you. I am not on the plan Brie talk, I guess, because I didn't really see it that much. But I saw like posts about it. People were obviously like upset. Yeah.

On her October 8th episode, she made some uncouth comments, I suppose. First, she shared her opinion that the Menendez brothers, who obviously killed their parents over abuse, should have just run away and deserved to be in jail forever. I think the worst take. I think the take is in hell. It's just like burning.

No, this was all over my FYP. Rightfully so. People were... I think people are just like... Oh, my God. It goes back to it once again. It's like this screams like you have no... Like you've never been in this situation. Don't talk on it. Like it's just so... It gives that. It's giving like you don't know anything you're talking about. And I think maybe she's going through something right now. I don't want to like speculate. But like I feel like she might be going through something right now because she is like...

She's having horrible takes. But you know I'm scared of Brianna. You guys know I don't like to talk about her. She comes from me way too much and I'm like, we were cool. Yeah. Our history is never great. How I was introduced to her. You know what I mean? So...

I think, first of all, she's working at Barstool Sports, which is – yikes. Maybe something happened. Maybe that's brainwashing somehow because I think when you're just around that environment, I don't know. But I do also feel like she's going through stuff right now. I don't know. They talk about it on BFF's podcast, but maybe she's going through something personal because this was kind of a weird take for no reason. Like, first of all, no one asked. And second of all, it's like why would you say this? Like these people –

you know, these two boys were graphically, horrifically, um, by their father, the mother. No, like there's multiple testimonies to this. There's like cousins. There's other people that are not even related to them that had this happen. There's so many people were like, oh yeah, he told me this. He told me that. Like so many people. And, uh,

I just don't understand like how you could just tell someone who's been through such like horrific from their parents, like just run away. Like it's actually crazy. Like just not knowing about any sort of sexual financial like power, like so like it's actually wild. And especially in this day and age of people just like trying to understand people and like why they do what they did and her just being like, just run away. Don't parents. It's like it's just giving you haven't been through in life. And why are you talking on someone else's like horrific? You know nothing about it.

Yeah, you can obviously say that like murder isn't like justified or whatever. I think that is obviously like universally like, you know, obviously murder is not good. Yeah, right. Everyone can agree on that. But I think the erasure of the Eric and Lyle's like sexual is just like.

this day and age you know when like it's like mental health awareness is so important and obviously everything they've been through like when they were made like a laughingstock during their original trial as they like emotionally like testified about their you know i feel like that is kind of where the trouble was and i feel like maybe it's one of those things where like again maybe i'm rose-colored glasses too much but maybe she just doesn't know like maybe she saw

the Ryan Murphy and like she didn't watch any documentaries or something. Well then don't speak on it. You know what I mean? Like I think this is one of those things where it's like there's like zero tolerance for dummies here. You know what I mean? Like if you're not if you don't know don't speak. You know if you don't know the full story if you're not gonna like get to know things beyond the Ryan Murphy thing. You know because so many people did do deep dives they're watching documentaries they're watching this. And so it's like there's just so many more layers and I

honestly saw all surface level stuff and I know the extent of it. You know what I mean? I'm not like a true crime fan where I dug into it but I could see all of the testimonies, everything they were saying. I could see them like when you see the little trial clips and stuff like that of them just, you can just tell these people are like disassociating. They're like getting triggered all over again remembering these things. Like there's no, there's no amount of acting. I saw someone on TikTok point this out that like even like professional actors couldn't convey the same emotion as them on the stand. Like they were so distraught. Like there's just so much

no way and like you said getting mocked I mean I don't remember this but obviously when they were showing those SNL clips of like John Malkovich and Rob Shur just being like this like just like completely mocking these guys crying who have been through a lot and then to like in 2024 have someone like say that again like it's what the defense was I don't know who she was trying to defend in this situation like I don't know where like you know you know okay play devil's advocate but for who the devil you know like that was

weird and I just am like are you are you like going through something because I think Brianna like she's like you know she was well liked for a while and I just feel like I don't know unless she's trying to be like a villain arc you know where like the Jake Paul where you're like I'm just gonna go completely opposite of everyone else just like stand out and get attention and like I don't know maybe I was I don't know I feel like for a while there on BF how she was kind of being like

a girl's girl. She's like stood up for like... She stood up for Chapel when Dave was like talking about her. I feel like she stands up for a lot of people when Dave talks about it. Yeah. So I just know and I know there was like stuff like rumors going... There's always rumors about her relationship which I know she like hates but also like what, you know, what can you do? You make it public or whatever but I know she's always angry about that so I'm like maybe she's like going through something else. She's like really angry right now at like everyone and everything but it's like these men now who have been in prison for 30 years, you know, and to be like...

They deserve to be in there for life. It's like, okay, who are you? You know what I mean? Like, you don't know. And I don't think they got a fair trial because a lot of the evidence, like, couldn't be presented at the time. I don't think they got a fair trial. And if they were accused of manslaughter, they would have been out after 25 years. So they would have been out five years ago. It just sounds like she was taking kind of like the simple...

thought train of like well there's something else you could have done but she doesn't understand the psychology of people and that's yeah some things you can't run away from there's there's a feeling like you know this dad or this person will find them look out like what does it mean to run away from it it's not like they can go into a witness protection program and

and have the funds and the ability to disappear and have a new life. And they don't. And they're traumatized. And the only way for them to stop it is to stop it. And you're also like very stunted when you go through trauma, right? A lot of times they say like the age that you were traumatized, you're like, you're there. So they're not in like a sane mind. Like, you know what I mean? Like on the outside, it's like, yeah, you know, you're an adult. Just, you know, go get a job somewhere. It's like, you're just into this, you're in this like a

manipulative this this like this you're just not in your sane mind either i don't know i know they didn't play play insanity and stuff like that but you're they're stuck at this age where they they don't think it's an op i mean again just like psychologically i don't know what they were thinking but like you're just stuck at this age where you don't think there's another option you don't think there's a way out and when you're not in your of your sound mind because of trauma because of getting a

Like, honestly, like, it's – I don't like to dig too deep into it because it's actually, like, horrific. Like, the details they went into, like, what the dad would do. I mean, your dad. And it's not – all – it's awful as a child, obviously. Like, that's why they, you know, get unalived in prison. Like, they – like –

because you're not losing a child at all, but like your own, like your own parents were supposed to be there to like protect you. They like bring you into the world. They're supposed to be there to protect you. And it's not just your dad. It's also your mom that knows. Like that is like being in like literal hell. Like how do you escape it? You don't, like you said, you don't know what the parents do. Are they going to find them? I think what they testified or what they said, at least later on in prison, I think it was Lyle said that he thought that they were going to kill them basically. Like they were, it was like kill or be killed.

basically was kind of their thought process that that was happening. Whether that's paranoia, whether it's, you know, real, whether it was a threat the dad made, whatever. I mean, obviously they thought enough to that. I think there's so many layers. I think it's so easy to be like, well, don't parents, you know, but I think there's like a lot of layers and there's a lot of monsters out there.

I know the Menendez Brothers show was called Monsters. Was it relating to them, the title, or was it relating to the parents? That's a good question. I think maybe then, because the series is Monsters, so the other one was Monsters, the Dahmer story or whatever. Not really. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know if Ryan Murphy ever specified who was the monster there. I'm assuming it's the Menendez Brothers because they're the ones that committed murder.

Right? And I think for Dahmer, it was obviously about Dahmer, so... He's so interesting. Yeah, and Ryan Murphy's takes have not helped the world. True. He is literally triple doubling down. Like, it didn't bother to go ask them for their side stories. Every side of the story should be told, but also I'm not going to, like, interview the people that were alive. Because he always says there's four people involved, two of them are dead, so it's like, why wouldn't you go talk to the two that are alive? That doesn't make sense. So I'm going to tell the dead people's stories too, but I'm not going to get the ones that are alive. Like, it's so wild. Missed opportunity, however...

I guess people are talking about it again and it's like bringing awareness. And now regardless of what the story Ryan Murphy told, people are kind of like at least having like empathy and hopefully just – in general, hopefully more people just listen to kids when they say they're like being – you know, like it gets taken seriously. Yeah.

especially boys because yeah literally they were told in court that they couldn't be essayed because they were boys so that's why yeah and here's brianna in 2024 setting us back we're back in 1994 just why girl and hopefully she's apologized hopefully she says you know what i mean at this time again i've said a lot of stupid things too you just say i'm done

No, you know what I mean? I'm so sorry. Like there should be an apology because that's just such a wild take. And everyone, like my whole For You page was that, was just like, this is actually the worst take ever. But however, it was not her worst take ever. There was an even worse take to her best friend. This is what was, I'm really, really, really not trying to be a hater because I don't believe I'm just jumping on a hate train. But this is actually like, I just think there's like awareness that needs to be brought to this because this is like wild. Yeah.

Right? Or am I off? Oh, you're right. Okay, I was like, wait, am I off? You're definitely right. Okay. Like, again, I hate when people just drag someone over and over, but, like, I do think it's, like, something that's, like, needs to be so painfully aware how wrong it is. I don't know, especially because the platforms are so big. I think it's just... No, I just feel like something's going on with her because, like, what? Why are you so, like, victim-blaming everybody? Like, it's actually wild to not have any empathy for a victim, especially when it's your best friend. So on this one...

And Brianna is – they're talking about – they're going to a city on tour, right? They're going to some city. Was it Atlanta or something like that? And she was telling –

Grace O'Malley, who is her co-host, which everyone loves now. Grace became her own influencer. She joined Plan Brie a year or two after it started at Barstool. Brianna gets her a job. They're besties. They're besties. And Brianna's like, okay, come do Barstool. Come do Plan Brie with me. Everyone loves it. This is bestie best friends. And she says something, oh, we're going back to the city. Hopefully it ends better than it did last time.

And you could just tell immediately, Grace, like, again, I think reactions and the way people react to things, you can just tell, like, the pain and what they've gone through. Like, immediately, she's like, yeah, no, no, that won't happen again. And she's like, just do with that as you will. Like, she obviously was not going further. To which Brianna continues to explain more details of a story that happened in this city when they were there, I don't know how many years ago. I don't know how old they are now, but I guess she was 16 at the time.

So not only telling another person's story, telling it when they were underage and clearly something that she's not comfortable with. Like it's wild it even went to air. Like I'm actually so shocked. That was what I was thinking too. Could you imagine we have that kind of conversation and I'm telling a story and I'm thinking it's fine. I'm like whatever, we're best friends. I'm telling your story because maybe in your head you think that's cool. Like if you meet my sister here, you're like okay, we're just going to tell each other stories. But then like after being like

maybe that wasn't cool. Editors, Jimmy, ask for someone to be like, that's not cool, you know? How did it get so far to let that on air, which now everyone knows the situation and it's so heavily implied. You obviously know all the details about it's like an older guy. They were talking at a bar.

I don't want to even repeat it because it's such a personal story and basically being like, you know, moral of the story, when you're 16, you think you're cool because you're talking to older guys, but you're not cool. Like, don't go disappear and don't, and you know, don't disappear with older guys and whatever. And Grace repeated twice, like, it's not your fault. Like, the 16 year old is not your fault. Then again, she's like, you know, and then just leaving me. Oh my God. I think this is the part that makes me so mad is when she like,

makes it about her. She goes, I was so worried. You left me worried. I didn't know if you were dead or not. And it's like, oh my, like there's the lack of like self-awareness of what this person went through. And like, obviously, you know the story, you know what happened, whatever. And then like saying like, okay, but me, I was like so worried. I thought you were dead. All this stuff. It was like actually so wild. And then Grace once again goes, it wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. And it's almost like, I don't know, almost like outer body disassociating because you could just see her like look down. She's like, it wasn't my fault. It wasn't my fault. You know, it's almost like something people say

When something like traumatic. I don't know. It was difficult to watch. I don't want to like project for Grace obviously and that's her friend or whatever. But it definitely was uncomfy for everyone. I don't think anyone said anything. Has Grace said anything? I don't think so. Let me double check. Because it happened October 8th you said? So what? It's like it's been like a week. It's been a week. Yeah. No. Grace hasn't said anything. She's just posting though? Is she posting? She's still posting and all her comments are like.

Like, I hope you find someone. I hope you do your own podcast. Leave Blandry. And every time she's with someone else, like she's with Whitney. She's like, I'm glad you find you're with someone who's like supporting you.

Damn. Like literally. And she's been posting pretty often. And that's her whole comments. Is she just keeping it? I guess she's keeping it moving. But I feel like when it's like involving you, like you could say whatever, however she feels. Oh, it's fine. That's how me and Bri are. Like it's fine. Or I gave permission. I gave consent for her to share that story. Like it could have been. I feel like you say something. Right. Yeah. Because if your best friend.

Again, I was projecting. If you were going through a hate campaign for something that you said, like a joke you said about me and I didn't care, I'd be like, no, I didn't care. Totally. I mean, even me with Rainn Wilson, who's not my friend. At the time, it wasn't a big deal. I understand where people – you know what I mean? You say something about the rhetoric that's out there about it. You're just like, okay, let me say something, especially when it's your partner or best friend. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. We don't know because no one's saying anything. Yeah. We don't know. I guess everyone is rightfully mad at her. I mean, hopefully Brianna's just like, damn, that was the wrong thing to say. My wording was wrong. Maybe she's just like not good with her words. But she is good with her words because she's like on a podcast and she's pretty eloquent most of the time. So maybe her shtick is just being this like hard balls girl. Like I'm just, you know, balls of steel over here or something. This hard balls girl. Balls of steel. Yeah.

I love this hard balls girl. That should be merch. Art nails? Dump his nails? I don't know. Maybe she's like a tough like Boston girl. I don't know. I'm not sure. Oh my God. I mean, she does get put through the ringer. That's why I don't want that, you know? She goes through it a lot, yeah. Everyone's like, oh, it's been a year and a half. Your boyfriend's probably broken up or he cheated on. Like there's so many rumors that would be annoying.

Oh, she turned her comments off on Instagram. Which one? Brianna? Brianna, yeah, on her latest post.

I think that's when you know you should say something. Like when you have to turn the comments off, like, you know, say something. And you have a podcast. Maybe they're waiting for their podcast. Oh, you know what? You're so right. Yeah, maybe they are. It's very podcasty. Save it for the podcast. That's a week to go through a hate campaign, though, just to get to the podcast is. Emergency episode. Yeah. Quick turnaround. But that's like a smart-er, maybe. I don't know. I used to always just like reply right away on like TikToks. I'm like, let me save it for the podcast. So.

And then really quick too, the part that got me, I was like, oh my God, about me. I think Zach Bryan, I'm sorry. He just kind of is annoying to me. Just me personally. Yeah. But he commented before Brianna turned off her comments. The prettiest and most kind woman I know. F and I love you. I don't know. F and I love you. Yeah.

And then someone replied to Zach saying, I love you, buddy. Truly. And she seems truly good too. And it just sounds misinformed. But what she said is horrible. And then Zach replied, why do you give such a damn about people you don't know? It's super creepy, which just made me laugh because I'm like,

Her job is being an influencer. Her job is literally having millions of people care about her. Otherwise, she wouldn't have a job. And you wouldn't be selling music if people didn't care about you. You know what I mean? It's like, what? No. Period, period, period. I feel like, especially with influencers, it's like when your whole brand is you. Yeah. That's why they care. That's why they're talking. Otherwise, she has no job and nobody cares. At least,

at least he's like a singer and he can sing and like, okay, people don't know you. They don't, because he sounds like an awful person, but people like his music. So I guess that's good for him. But if you're like an awful person and people want to love you, because I think it's a lot of Brianna's fans too. It's like, but mine too, when I got through cancellation, right? They want to love you. But when you have such.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, girl, like we're rooting for you. Like, what are you doing? And it's like, it's not creepy. It's how she makes her money. And that's her job and her career is people literally talking about her life. She talks about her life. That's her job. That's it. There's no other one. Her podcast is her name. Yeah. Literally. You're like, why do you care about me? I'm just Trish. Stop talking about me. That's so annoying. Oh, creepy. Creepy that you want to talk about something I talk about on my podcast. That's so weird.

That I said on top of that. It's not even like someone found inside information. They're out of touch. He's out of touch. I don't know. I'm hoping the best for her. That guy sounds awful in every way. He sounds like actually the worst, but what do I know? Yeah. We only know half the story, I suppose.

And then more girlies that we're getting in trouble on the podcast is our canceled girls. I missed this one. I haven't seen this one. It's new. It's fresh. Yeah, it just dropped. But they are on the opposite stance of us when it comes to Chapel Roan. No! Yes, I know. We're beating to the canceled girls. This is the fallout. It might have to be. Fallout with Moses over Chapel. I won't care. Over my sister. Whoever is anti-Chapel, anything. No. No.

Absolutely not. That is like... That's like talking bad about Jesus. Like, it's such a weird thing. Like, no, no. It's like Jesus was friends with hookers. Yeah, he's a miracle performer. Who cares? Like, I don't know, you know? So weird. Okay. Yeah, they were all... And it was the four of them. It was Amari, Paige, Brooke, and Tana. Yeah, they were all...

Criticizing Chapel because when she canceled that last festival performance, it was like that week she was going through it after she talked about politics and then she was getting canceled and then she canceled that festival date and they were all on the opposite train of us. What did they say? I can't believe it. Plan Brie got to them. They hung out with Brianna at their show in Boston and seeped in. Oh no.

No. What did they say? They were worried that she's coming for their brand. Oh, yeah. T2 Cancel. They were saying that, like, it was, again, that rhetoric of, like, you know, maybe she's not cut out for it. It sucks to cancel the day before. Like, there's other artists, like Billie Eilish, who obviously was coming up and she had when she was, like, 16, she was dealing with depression and stuff, but she was still really good to her fans. I don't think you can compare humans to humans. Like, that's so weird. Okay. Okay.

I gotta breathe. I gotta be... I love my girls. I gotta be chill. They were like, if it was a one-off festival performance, that Chapel should have gone through with it. She was... Or at least, like, lied and said, like, not my mental health, like, I'm just sick or something. First of all, why do you want to lie? But there's so many reasons. Like, there's probably... There could be...

deeper. There could be more surface level stuff. There's so many reasons and I feel like if something's personal, like, I don't think she's gonna, like, pull out a show. Like, there is something obviously going on, right? She's, like, this huge mega superstar. Like, I just feel like they're, the reasoning's, like, one, not important, but two, it's also, like, respect it. I don't know. People, like, crave real, right? They're like, we want someone real, authentic. And then when someone's, like, real and authentic, people are just like, oh, no, not you. Like, you be a performer. You perform when we say. You know what I mean? I don't know. I just think, I, I,

it's a weird, it's a weird thing. I don't know. I don't think her fans were upset. It's like these outside people that are upset about it. Whereas opposed to like, her fans still went to the show and saw like people, I don't know. I don't know. I guess I see, I guess I see it maybe, but to say like, well, Billie Eilish did it or she's not cut out to do it. It's like, well,

that's not fair because you don't know that level of fame, you know what I mean? In general, right? Like, you know, I love them. I love them. Yes. But we couldn't even imagine. No one can fathom. There's no influencer that could fathom that level of fame. Maybe Troye Sivan. But no, like, social media person could fathom that. You know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah. It is, like, this insane level of scrutiny. I think, too, and also, like, to preface, because you can still, like, be friendly with people and disagree with them sometimes. Like, it's not a big deal at all. I...

Love Tanaka, The Day I Die. You know, like, they're all wonderful. Paige and Amari, like, Paige and Amari are actually the sweetest people in the whole world. So I didn't see the clip, but I'm not actually mad. I'm just, like, stating my opinion on it. You know what I mean? Yeah, this is a clash of opinions. Yeah, I mean, they have a... And this is too, like, because they were questioning if, like, the festival was, like, part of a tour, if it was just, like, one-off.

And listen, we've been there too. Maybe we don't have the full story. We've definitely said things where like we think we know the whole story, but we don't. And I feel like this was also it because I don't think they realize the scope, right? Like literally Chapel was just overseas. She was like in Europe and Ireland and stuff. And then she was coming back to perform in New York for the festival that she had to cancel. She canceled the day before, but she comes back.

she did this press like this press run and then all these quotes are being taken out of context and it's her own like people that she cares about like it's the lgbtq community that's weaponizing her own quotes like out of context and saying like oh you don't care about us like you're using the gay community the trans community yeah because if you really cared about us you would 100 be voting for kamala you know what i mean that's what they were kind of doing and they were like take they were just misquoting her and taking stuff out of context and

And it was loud. Like, it was not – it was, like, a big story. It got picked up everywhere, this stuff, that she had to make TikTok about it and then she had to make another TikTok about it. And also she literally has bipolar. Like, she has bipolar disorder. That is, like, so hard to deal with. And even when it was, like, all positive, she was still having trouble dealing with all the fame and attention. Like, she literally cried at a performance because it was a lot to – literally within –

June, July, August, like four months. She's like the biggest artist in the world. Like that's hard. Yeah. It's crazy that like scrutiny that she gets like based on like what other people do because it's like, yeah, she's dealing with a lot and it's, I don't know, just because she's vocal. I think for them it's just fresh because they're on tour.

So you feel, you know how it feels when you're on tour and you have to show up to shows and performances. I feel like they feel like we're doing it right now so we can talk about this. Yeah, that's what they said. Oh, did they say that? Oh, I didn't see. No, that's super perfect. He's the cancel stand over here. I'm just getting to their feelings. But I think at the same time, they're in a different place. They have more experience being famous than she does. They've been there for a long time.

They, back then, like at her age, at her time, would have probably done the same. Well, they're the same age. They're all 26. But the fame. Tenna has been famous for so long. I think it's a different level, though. I think it's such a different level. And Chapel, like it's a new thing and she's still navigating in it. I guess Chapel is just like superstardom where I don't think anybody, like me, like obviously Britney Spears, those kind of people. I think there's like a superstardom level of fame that like no one can even imagine, especially someone like if you have like mental illness, right? And like...

Bipolar is a whole different beast than like even a personality disorder. Like to be at that level with like that, you know, with that on top of it and also just whatever, just being a girl, there's so many things. I think there's like no one can fathom that. So it's like I could say, yeah, I've been on two tours. Suck it up. But it's like, you know, it's a different level, you know? Yeah.

it's not the same and I think I think honestly anyways to tell like not to say suck it up but like just to compare it's like you know people are going through stuff and you said it too like Kate Bush is not like someone that's out there like meeting doing meet and greets and talking to fans it's like she's just making art and whatever and I think she maybe she's trying to figure it out I feel like because she's very new and just trying to figure it out and to compare her to like a Sabrina or anybody like that it's just like they're different people yeah and to like

Because they were saying, too, like, okay, well, if this isn't for you, then just make your art and don't do the other stuff. Like, don't do the shows, don't do the VMAs, whatever. But people forget, too, all this stuff is booked months and months and months and months ago. Like, this tour, the Fall and Rise of the Midwest Princess Tour, like, these festival performances are still a part of that tour. Like, I think she just did her last performance at ACL.com.

weekend two yesterday and she considers that the end of her tour. So she's been on tour this whole year. All this stuff has been booked a long time ago. She hasn't had any time to pivot. And all the articles that are coming out that people are using against her, like, she hasn't even had time to pivot her, like, PR strategy because...

We know from personal experience, she did those interviews in like beginning of July when she was here because that was the same time she was going to come on here. And she canceled on us too. And yeah, we were sad for a minute just because we were excited to see her. But we weren't upset at her. No. Like her mental health is more important. There was nothing in my head that's like she needs this publicity.

I'm not the Tonight Show, but I still – there was not even – but even when people way less famous in chapel cancel like day of, there's been like influencers that cancel. There's been like a musician that canceled like day of. It's happened like I think three times on this podcast where I'm like full glam ready to do the interview notes and everything. I'm still never like – one person said they had COVID. Another person said, oh, mental health. Another person said their dog was in the hospital. Whatever. Maybe all of those were true, but I didn't question it. I was like –

Like, you know, like it's, it's, I don't know. And I don't know to say like, yeah, then like, don't do it. It's like, she probably doesn't know how to handle it. Like it's all, you said it's all like new. All of a sudden it's like crazy and maybe she won't, maybe she will. I don't know. Like there is a learning curve because you want to be famous. You want to get on stages. And then suddenly you get everyone telling you, we want you. So you say yes to everything. Cause that's what you've been waiting for your whole life. And now she's learning what she can say yes to and how much. Okay.

And she does a very complex shows too. It's not, some people they get on the stage with a guitar and they're like, it

it's easy like it's not that complicated but her shows are very complex she's like themes and costumes yeah it's not something that she can just like jump on stage i also feel like the people like filming her at the airport like it's such a like a larger scale where i can imagine because you guys all know i'll be the first to say i'll get annoyed when people come up to me with my kids i'll be annoyed if they come up to me in the parking lot with my kids like those kind of things like that i'm on such a smaller scale you know like us going through the vegas casino right i'm like i'm like one one hunters at chapel rompain and it's like a

lot like just living your life like trying to make something on time whatever and then people just like like that one guy he's like he goes oh sure sure was like so rude to me it's like I wasn't rude I just said like oh you're like he oh I said I was annoyed when people pretend it's a picture but they're filming like and then he's like oh my god she was so mad she like talked about me and he still makes 5,000 TikToks about it but to have that like times a thousand where people are just like constantly wanting you or you're worried about them like talking bad about you or like photographing you or whatever I mean like when someone doesn't have like a mental a mental illness or a personality disorder you know it's like

probably a lot for anyone to take in, you know, but it's like, then you top, you know, add in all these other things, whatever people have. And I'm not talking about just chapel at this point, like anxiety or whatever that like, it really does something to your brain. I don't think anyone, no one can even fathom it.

I don't know. I think it's just people are a little too hard on her. And I always think, like, as much as a fan is disappointed, I'm sure the artist is more disappointed than they are, not showing up. Yeah, or disappointing people. Like, a hundred times more disappointed. A hundred times more hurt about this. She's always explaining herself, like, the political thing. She's always, like, explaining herself. Because on one hand, it's like, oh, yeah, she doesn't, you know, she doesn't care what people think. But I do think she cares what her fans think. I think everyone else is like, I don't care. But, like, what her fans think, I think, does matter to her.

And I love Chapel. And obviously, yeah, she was going on the podcast. I became even more of a fan was like listening to her music. But I wouldn't even say I'm like a stan. So me like going hard for her like this is not because I'm like, she can do no wrong in my eyes. You know, I've said that before. But it's more like just the again, like this, this backlash of people just wanting to bring someone down. Yeah, the humanity of it. I know. People are just so nasty. I'm not talking about the council girl. Obviously, they're just like talk about it. It's a hot topic. And I get that side of it. I do get that side of it. It's like, but the

fans and I totally but I think because I'm on the side too of just like you know my mental health and stuff like that and just a smaller scale it's like

the humanity of it. And that's why I try and think even with like Brianna, with anybody, I'm just like maybe, maybe she's going through something because like the internet does drag her all the time about her boyfriend possibly cheating on her. Why is she at home when he's there? It's just like that's a lot to take on someone. So maybe she's just like a little bit out of her mind right now. I'm not sure. But like I just think it's, it's a lot. I don't know. I'm taking it especially like another female. But Chapel's so big. So I guess a lot of people too like just, you know, talk about it so casually because it's like it's Chapel Rowan and she's so big and she doesn't care. And I think people, like the general public's idea of celebrity is that like once you become famous like –

You know, being famous includes and that's just part of the job. But again, I think like we said before, I think Chapel's thing is she is a normal person trying to hold on to the normalcy in a career that is very...

And I think she's... Everyone is just weird talking about her. And she's just very normal. And that's what the problem is. So, again, I think she's part of the shift around fame and the fame culture around it. So I think she is kind of trailblazing in a way. But yeah, I think too with the...

With the canceled crew, because it's not just the girls. With all of them. I think if they just heard someone explain the context of like, you know, she has bipolar. I don't think they knew anything about like her getting canceled with like the political stuff and like the LGBT community. I think they just didn't have the full story. And I will stand by that. Oh, for sure that. Like, I think Tana's the first to admit like when she comes here, she goes, oh, I didn't even hear it. Like, she won't hear about anything that's, like, even that pertains to her. I said something about like James Charles. She had like no idea. She's like, what happened? So I think she's, and even I talked to her, I talked to her on Saturday night and she's like, she kind of just like,

She kind of just out of the loop on a lot of things in like a good way. She just kind of doesn't keep up. She keeps up enough but not like the lore like we do where we just know like every little thing and every little detail. So I agree with that. And yeah, I mean they did do a tour too and I'm not taking away from that that they don't like, you know, can relate to it. But I do think –

is different that's fine because I see both sides on this one I really do and I just lean more towards chapel but we love we love differences opinions we love respecting opinions it makes the world go round it's so true we need different viewpoints we need all of it and that's that watch chapel run on Saturday Night Live November 2nd

Something good in November. Early November is big. Wow. It's popping. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Add that to my New York trip. It's JetBlue Mint. JetBlue Mint, Chapel Roan on SNL, Rachel Zeigler on Romeo and Juliet. What was my other one? I had another good one. Remember there was something else. Didn't I want to eat somewhere in New York? There was something. A few places. Period. We love you guys. Just remember, it's not that serious. These are just our opinions.

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