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What Is Trump Missing?

2024/8/19
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Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein discuss Trump's campaign strategy, focusing on his recent return to Twitter and his interview with Elon Musk.

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What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you feeling, brother? I'm good.

I had another great weekend out on the road. That's great, dude. Yeah. I'm actually, you know, it's funny. I was starting to feel burnt out, and now I'm in a good rhythm where I'm like, I don't know why I'm coming to this. I think I'm done with summer porch tour. It's just porch tour. Year long, baby. We're going to December this year. You're doing winter porches? Well, you just got to keep to the West Coast. You can do Arizona. You can do Vegas. It stays hot until real late. So I got to start lining up the West Coast dates, but we're going year round, baby. I'll go to...

I'll go to Australia. I'll just go where it's always summer. Wait, hold on. Wait a second. If you're not just doing summer porch tours, but you're just always on a porch, at what point are you a hobo? Like, where is the line? I think when you can't afford plane tickets and you start jumping trains...

That is probably, you're probably right about that. Rob will be flying to a porch near you. Well, that's great, dude. I'm glad to hear they're all going good. I really, I hear like nothing but amazing feedback from these shows. I'm telling you. All right. Let me say this right now. Yeah.

I want to come do a porch with you. I'd love to have it. We can make that happen. It's got to be one that makes sense. I kind of want to be like a surprise guest. I don't want to do nothing. I just want to come do like 15 minutes on one porch somewhere where I can do that, where it makes sense. The next time we got something that's Jersey local and we can easily get you there and back to just do 15 minutes and have a beer, we'll set it up and...

On that note, well, this one's too far, but August 24th is the last booked one. It's my friend Max's. He's got the private bar. It's one of the best hangs of porch tours. So last one scheduled Perryville, Maryland.

Oh, yeah. Out in Maryland. Yeah, if you can get yourself booked on other things that are in the Maryland region, it might even make sense for you. All right. Maybe I'm going to try to make this work. Okay. All right. That's great. And, of course, go to PorchTour.com, ComicTapeSmith.com for all our stuff. We're out in Stanford in a few days, on Thursday, I believe. We're out in Stanford, Connecticut. Looking forward to that very much. This was a make-up.

that I had to reschedule. So I'm looking forward to that. And then we got a bunch more stuff coming up. Casper, Wyoming, Dallas, Texas at the end of the month. Well, the next one is Fort Worth and Dallas are at the end of the month. Then Casper, Oklahoma City. After that, Tulsa, Detroit, Kansas City, Poughkeepsie, Philadelphia. And then just added to the website, which I'm very, very excited about, Bozeman, Montana. Hmm.

We got a theater show that we're doing out there. This is my there's not too many places left that I've never been to or or done stand up in. And Bozeman, Montana is one of them. I'm really looking forward to going out to Montana. Never been to Montana in my life. And I know we got some great fans out there. So I'm very, very excited about that. You know the date on that?

I can know the date on that if you give me one second. That's January 18th. So that's next year. We got some time before that one. Pray to Santa for some snow. We'll go skiing. Well, you won't, but they got some nice mountains out there. I'll be drinking in my hotel room, but I'll meet you when you're done for sure. Some point in between when you're done and when the show happens, we'll probably hang out.

All right. So full disclosure here, I am I'm running on very little sleep. I literally so I essentially we usually do Legion of Skanks like now. Monday is at this time. And we Jay Oakerson called me.

like a week ago and goes, hey, dude, can we move Legion of Skanks to Sunday? Because there's a concert I want to go to on Monday. Would that be cool with you? And I went, sure, buddy. No problem. Because I'm me and I'm a disorganized mess. And I completely forgot that I had a flight

uh, at that time and I was supposed to leave. So I had to, uh, book a new flight. Um, I was able to get one so we could do the show that I agreed to do without knowing that I couldn't actually do it. Um, and so we, we did that last night and then I, I flew out at, um, at like 11 PM and I, I made the, uh, the pilgrimage to Tucker Carlson.

Which involves, I mean, where Tucker Carlson is, is so rural. Dude, I'm telling you, you got to take a plane ride.

And then you got to get in a car. At one point, you have to jump in a canoe. Then you have to just like you have to walk to like the top of a mountain and speak to a village elder. It's there's a whole it's a journey to get out there. So I get out there at like three thirty in the morning to the hotel and I crash for like a few hours. Wake up in the morning, go at breakfast with Tucker Carlson. And then we recorded an episode earlier today. I you know, whenever you do these like three hour long podcasts,

Sometimes I'll come out of them and, you know, doing like Rogan or doing some of these other shows, sometimes I'll come out and I'll call my wife and she'll be like, how did it go? And I'm like, I have no idea.

I got to watch it back. Like, never know. I don't know. I will say this one I came out like – I think that's one of the best podcasts I've ever done. I just – I'm really excited for you guys to see it. I think it should be up soon. But I think you're really going to enjoy it. Like, this – it was – I thought it was just really, really great. There was also so much to talk about. I was just there in May.

And I'm there now in the beginning of August. And it's like we live in a different world. Like, it's just so much has happened since then. Anyway, we hung out for a while afterward. Tucker Carlson is just the coolest fucking guy. I really can't tell you how much I love and admire this guy. He's just...

awesome. And we hung out. I got so lost in how long the podcast went. And then we were just hanging out, talking after it. And then I realized I was running crazy late for my flight back. Had like a mad dash, like a sprinting in the airport to get

I got to, they were already boarding. Like when I got to the gate, like I almost missed my flight home, but I made it home. And I'm glad we got to do this episode today. So sorry for not streaming at 4 PM as we normally do, but I have, you know, I think a really great excuse. I think about as good as an excuse as you can imagine.

You can imagine. So, okay. So anyway, that's what's been going on with me. I'm going on a couple hours sleep and I apologize if I'm a little off my game for, for this one, but I promise you the Tucker Carlson one from earlier today was really good. As we are speaking right now,

Donald Trump is recording with Elon Musk. We might check in on that at some point and see how that's going. They evidently had some crazy technical issues and the thing dropped a whole bunch and they had to start over. And I don't know. But the last as I checked right before we signed on. Never would have happened on Truth Social. Truth Social doesn't have that problem. Well, it does. Look, man.

Twitter spaces is a very cool concept. There still are, I think it's a little rough around the edges and some things that need to be figured out. I also think I've learned this from as of course, we just launched our new site part of the problem.com. Please, if you're watching live there right now, you already know but if you're not, that's where you can go to support the show. It's also where

all of the episodes stream live, uncensored, ad-free. It's also where you can be a part of the new part of the Problem Inner Circle, and we're building kind of a community there. You also get the members-only extra fourth episode a week only exclusively on partoftheproblem.com. So just from the experience of starting this new site, I know that from talking to the guys that are running the stuff,

And they're real smart technical guys. I don't know anything about this. But I know that we'll be like, okay, we're doing like beta testing before we launch it. But the thing is, you don't really find out what the issues are when you're beta testing because it's just like way more people are on it when you're really doing it. And then you figure it out. And I'm sure for Twitter spaces...

A one-on-one with Elon Musk and Donald Trump, I'm sure, broke all previous records, and they've never had this much traffic on a Twitter space before. And from my very, very limited understanding of the technical side of it, I'm sure there's just no way to prepare for what type of glitches will go wrong in that environment. So anyway, I guess they had some issues. Elon said something about how it was like an attack on Twitter. I don't exactly know what that means, but...

It looks like they're back. They're back up now. Anyway, let's get into a couple of the big. We'll check in with that in a little bit. Let's get into a couple things that are big news from today. Number one.

The day started for me, at least I got up pretty early this morning. I headed over to Tucker Carlson's place. We had breakfast before we did the show. And as I'm on my way over there, one of the things I swear to God, one of the things I was going to say, because I was kind of like what I was thinking to myself as I go there.

It's a weird life that I live, a weird, I don't know how exactly I've gotten to where I am in my career right now. But I'm going and I'm talking to like the biggest, you know, the biggest right wing platform in America. And so I was kind of thinking going in like the theme from what I was trying to get across today was like my urgent advice to

to right-wingers, MAGA supporters, Trump supporters, all of that, like what I think they really need to hear. And one of the things, and also knowing that Tucker Carlson really has Donald Trump's ear and that maybe this could even influence him a little bit. I swear one of the things I was going to say

is like I had a long phone call with Scott Horton the night before, and I was talking to him, and I was like, hey, this is what I think I want to say. And he was like, okay, here's what I think you should say. And we were kind of just discussing it, as I do with him sometimes before these shows. And I was like, we both were saying, we were like, he's got to get back on Twitter.

Like, I don't know what your deal is with Truth Social, but whatever it is, man, break it. You have to get back on Twitter. Like, what are you doing? This is the whole like right now they've kind of been dominating you in the news cycle.

Like he's not Donald Trump isn't controlling the news cycle the way he did in 2016 or even the way he did in 2020. And he did that from Twitter. Truth Social just doesn't have the same thing. And he's back. He's reinstated. Like you got to get on Twitter and be, you know, just roasting these guys every day from Twitter. And I was going to make a big appeal to that. And as I'm on my way there, I open Twitter on my phone or X as it's called now.

And the number one trending topic is Donald Trump is back on Twitter. So I didn't even need to say anything about it. He posted like a campaign video on Twitter. And I guess this is an indication that he's going to be back. I'll actually I'll check right now. I don't know if he's tweeted anything else yet.

uh, besides that, but Donald Trump is back on Twitter and that is, I'd say pretty big news. Nope. Hasn't, hasn't tweeted anything else except that, but tweeted a video, uh, today has, uh, 35 million views on the campaign video that he tweeted. And so right away, doesn't it just prove that right? Of course you have to do this. And, and so he did and probably just in time, but what do you think the, the King of Twitter has made a return?

His first tweet should just be, I take hydroxychloroquine every day for breakfast. That's what got him kicked off, if you don't remember. Was it that? It wasn't January 6th stuff? No, it was...

I forgot specifically what his comment was, but it was something in regards to hydroxychloroquine. And he got removed for what turned out to be a completely false study. And the study was removed when the authors finally got to review the printed authors on the study, got to review the data. And they were like, oh, we can't have our names on this. And then it was retracted. Sure.

I vaguely remember this as you're saying it, but it's so crazy that literally this is, I live in this world and for whatever reason, I remembered it as being a January 6th thing. Listen, I drink and read the news every day and sometimes I jumble things in my brain. So it's possible that I remember this though about the study that they had to like retract essentially, or that the people pulled their names off of that. Look, either way, I did make this point on Tucker's show today that I was like,

Like, I was basically, I was pretty critical of Trump and how, like, how poorly he's running this campaign compared to what it could be.

And one of the things I said is that like, there's just no, you know, it's kind of like on the theme that we've been talking about lately, that it's like the establishment has this like message discipline and the dissidents have nothing like it. And I was like, there's like, you got to run on the pocket aces like you did in 2016 if you want to really shake this thing up. And I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm just too furious at the guy constantly to be a Trump supporter.

But it's like I still do want the dissident voices to shake things up. And I still am more than I'm rooting for Trump to win. I'm rooting for the Democrats to lose, if that makes sense.

But I was like, listen, man, there's like pocket aces here. And this is what you should be playing. And it's like, obviously, immigration, you've been vindicated. I don't see this like this clear message coming from the Trump campaign, which would be so it's so easy to just be like, remember when I said this and everyone said I was evil for saying it. And now I've been vindicated.

Like fit that into a bumper sticker, man. Cause it's so obviously like, this is the thing to run on. And then the other thing I said to run on was America first and not no more wars. And of course he just does not have the, the,

or the courage or whatever it is to run on that. And he made his whole convention, the We Love Israel convention. And then he's calling everyone else a Palestinian, which is so ridiculous. All right.

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Isn't that the easiest thing to slam dunk to run on? And not just that it's about you, but that it's about Americans. Like if it can even happen to me, if even the person who, you know, like was duly elected president of the United States of America can be silenced on these things, then we don't have meaningful free speech. And so why?

Wouldn't that be the centerpiece that you would go listen? This is it. It's a referendum on free speech. That's it. If I get elected, we're going to make sure that we have free speech on the internet. And if they get elected, we'll never have free speech on the internet. I just feel like that's such a winning issue. And yet he hasn't been able to crystallize that or –

you know, like focus on that and make it a centerpiece of the campaign. It's unbelievable to me.

I would also add to the list, great list, but also attacking the Democrats on their preserving democracy, which included pretending like a guy didn't have dementia, then cooing him and using the Justice Department. Yeah, and then just going after the Justice Department in every possible way to try and make sure that Donald Trump couldn't run. And when that didn't work, potentially, you know, looking the other way while someone was trying to shoot him or facilitating it, depending on...

How conspiratorial you want to be. You know, I'll I'll tell you, listen, I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you on that. Yeah. And and and and specifically also, as I mentioned on the last episode we did, and I mentioned this on Tucker Carlson show today, that also just like, yeah, like that. It's the biggest scandal in fucking American history that we don't have a president right now.

Like, that's crazy that there's the guy was deemed too senile to run for president.

But he's still the president of the United States of America while we're involved in a fucking proxy war with the Russians. It's just so insane. You can't even imagine it. Like if you if you wrote it in a novel, you'd go, this is too far fetched. But we're living through it. And, you know, I made this point and I will tell you, as I made this point, I was I was like, I kind of thought to myself, maybe it was my own insecurity or whatever.

but I thought maybe Tucker might disagree with me on this because, you know, like I, uh, like,

I love Tucker Carlson and it's been really cool to become like friends with him and to be on, have him on our show and be on his show a couple of times now. And, and to like, you know, somebody who I like, you know, talk to regularly. But at the same time, I'm like this radical libertarian and he's like much more of a guy who comes from like a traditional, you know, conservative, you know,

mainstream media personality. And I thought maybe she might disagree with me on this, but he ended up totally agreeing. But I said that this whole thing where you're casting Kamala Harris as a socialist is totally the wrong framing.

And, you know, like he's always constantly it's like the far left. It's like this is like out of Sean Hannity's playbook or something like that, where it's like the far left, Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris is a communist or something like that, whereas it's like, no, she's really not. None of them really are communists or Marxists or anything like that. And actually what they are is just essentially communists.

whores for big business. That's what all of them are. They're essentially just like guaranteeing like cronyism. That's what they're really for. And they might use some like kind of quasi-leftist rhetoric in their attempt to do that. But it doesn't mean they're really like... They're not...

In other words, Kamala Harris is not going to usher in the workers' revolution of the proletariat. She's going to usher in more...

big profits for big banks. You know what I mean? And so, and the problem with Donald Trump casting them as the socialists is that it's almost like you completely lose what the appeal of Donald Trump was. Like, what was the appeal of Donald Trump? That the appeal was that he was a giant middle finger to the establishment. That's how he won. Like,

Fuck the Bushes and the Clintons. You know, that's the appeal of Donald Trump. The establishment has mismanaged everything. And we're furious about that. And on top of it, they're like demonizing people who are furious about it. But when you cast your opposition as like Marxists, then essentially what you're saying is that.

I am the defender of the establishment against these radicals. You know what I mean? And it's like totally like it's just not at all correct. And I and I did say, like, that's a big problem with him being all in on. I will support Israel. And you're all a bunch of Palestinians. It's like, oh, so what are your Mr. Establishment now?

You're Mr. Establishment who's against the kind of like the dissidents. That's not how you win, dude. No one's voting for you because they love the establishment. No one's voting for Donald Trump because they think the American foreign policy over the last 30 years has been spot on. But these rebel rousers are threatening to up end that. It's just all so bad.

So anyway, I was I was glad that Tucker really agreed with what I had to say on that. And I was I enjoyed the whole thing. Anyway, I hope you guys I hope you guys enjoy watching it. But so, yeah. So Trump's talking to Elon Musk right now. We'll check in with him in a minute. The other news of today that was just so first of all, so this is we were recording the episode. We took a break.

at some point in the middle, like I took like a little bathroom break and I had my phone on airplane mode. I turned my phone back on and I started getting it started going crazy. And I saw there I was so glad that we took this break. So I was able to see it. But I saw that. And I know this is going to probably upset you.

Rob, I don't know if you haven't heard about this, but I know you guys are very close. But Dr. Truth Science, Anthony Fauci, got his third COVID infection today. Is that, by the way, is that train on your end, Rob? You know, I could...

I'm laughing because I didn't even hear it till you said it. Like, yes, but I'm so used to it's like the scene of Blues Brothers with the subway going back and forth. I do not hear it. That's hilarious. It doesn't matter. Anyway, so Dr. Fauci, who evidently has been vaccinated and boosted six times, just got his third COVID infection. What do you think, Rob?

Just not enough vaccines? He doesn't have the... I need more antibodies. I didn't get the latest booster soon enough for the antibodies I needed in order to prevent the late... This is why we have to reshut down the country. This is why everyone needs to be back to wearing masks because even I can get COVID again. So everybody back indoors, you should have listened. It's because of the unvaccinated.

I didn't even see this, but I'm just assuming he's saying things like this. It's not too bad. Now, listen, if you've had seven vaccines, you'll barely feel it if you get COVID. I'm very unlikely. But isn't it something to say? I'm only alive because of the six booster. If it was only five boosters, I'd be dead right now.

Just think about that. The guy who was the health expert who was going literally go, but then we call him Dr. Truth science because he said in an interview that if you have a problem with him, you just have a problem with truth and science that this was, this

literally what he said about himself. And this was the guy telling you, if you get the vaccine, you can't get COVID or transmit COVID. And he's had six of them and he just got it for the third time. It's just, look, I will say it's, and here's why it's great. It's great because he deserves it.

He deserves far worse than this. I mean, talk about deserves it. He made it made the virus that he just got for the third time. OK, so not only does he deserve it, but what's so great about something like this is just because in a world, in a landscape where Donald Trump assassination attempt seems like a while ago.

And it's so easy for all of these things to just be buried in our distant memory. It's nice to see something like this because it just reminds everyone. It's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember? Remember when they lied through their fucking tyrannical teeth and told you that this vaccine was something totally different than what it was? Remember? Yeah.

Well, the head guy who had the nerve to say that you're against science if you criticize him, he's got COVID for the third time now. For the record, I'm just saying I'm on zero jabs and two cases of COVID. So I'm.

I'm beating them in every regard. But isn't it just insane? I mean, I don't know really what can be said other than the obvious, but it is amazing. It is, again, something like out of a cartoon that this guy's getting it for the third time. Well, I think I've had all the COVIDs all of the times, but who cares for one? And for two, if you're Fauci, why are you even telling people this? Do you really need to get back on the news that badly? You're not around anymore. You could just have COVID for a week and not tell anyone. Yeah.

Like, why are you good point? And I did not think of that. I'm embarrassed that I didn't think of that. Why is he telling people? Why do we even need to know? They need they need people to do mail and ballots. They're not sure if the new monkey pox is going to come around and catch enough people, you know, so. No, but it's like an excellent question. Why wouldn't he just stay to himself? He's not even in an official position anymore. I can't believe I didn't even think of that.

Why the hell would he even be admitting this? A really good question. I guess to remind people that that's why it's so important that you've been boosted with the latest boosters, because otherwise, when you get this thing that you're going to get anyways, you'd be dead. I guess. I don't know. I didn't hear his comments. I can't tell you. What can I say? I love being humiliated. Why do you think I always talk to Rand Paul?

It's just fun. Wow, that really is something. All right, let's check in. Can we get the – if we could look at Trump and Elon's thing. Let's try to pull that up for a second. Maybe while Mike's pulling it up, we can take some comments.

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All right. He's on COVID right now. LOL. Oh, that's talking about Fauci. I thought because we just mentioned it, I figured that was about Trump. American regularis says Fauci asks COVID to spit in his mouth. I don't know. I really like that. You guys are the best. Keep up the great work, guys. That's nice to hear. There wasn't

too much to respond to there other than to say, I feel like you're making an excellent point. All right, here, I'll come back to the chat in a moment and we will answer questions if you guys have it there. But let's see, can we, Mike, can we pull up Elon Musk's Twitter here and see what's going on? I'm pulling it up right now. Give me one moment. I'm sorry. No problem. Thank you so much, Mike. And by the way, thank you to Mr. Mike Suarez for filling in last minute for us tonight. It's...

It's much appreciated. All right. Let's see. Oh, Donald Trump. Oh, wait, is this a second video? Oh, this may be. Oh, yeah. No, you know what? I was wrong before. I think he posted a few videos today. Oh, wow. That's great.

He's really back on Twitter. Oh, yeah. Okay. Here's a tweet from Donald Trump earlier today. I didn't even realize this. Yeah, quite a few. Okay. So here's an actual tweet from Donald Trump. He said, are you better off now than you were when I was president? Our economy is shattered. Our border has been erased. We're a nation in decline. Make the American dream affordable again. Make America safe again. Make America great again. Yeah.

Not bad. Like he didn't say, are you better off than you were four years ago? That's what they typically like to say. He said, are you better off than you were when I was president? That's a smart little change right there because four years ago is 2020. Yeah. And it's a real tough time to say like, because are you better? It's really funny that Donald Trump's pitch should be, are you better off than you were five years ago? I feel like five years ago, you were better off than you are now. Five.

Let's not do four. I know that's standard, but like, yeah, that could cause some problems. All right. So let's see. I don't know. Hold on. Is the thing still going or is it done? Oh, it's still happening. Okay.

And we don't need to stop farmers from farming or prevent people from having steaks or basic stuff like that. Leave the farmers alone. I agree. How crazy is that? You have farmers that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle. The whole world is a little crazy. But it's largely taken its lead from us. I do say, though, I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel,

Because even to...

create your electric car and create the electricity needed for the electric car. You know, fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants. And, you know, so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment. I mean, someday you might be able to. But I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left. You know, much of it hasn't even been found yet. Yeah. But there are tremendous like Anwar. I got Anwar in Alaska approved. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. Everybody tried. Nobody could do it. I got

It's amazing how you could just pop into Donald Trump and he's always just being Donald Trump. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it. Nobody could do it. They said it couldn't be done. But then I did it.

All right. Well, I want to hear. I'm curious to hear Elon respond to that because fighting words being on with Elon and saying plenty of fossil fuels to go around. We don't need to transfer to electric cars right away. I mean, there's so much to agree on. That was almost it almost sounds like he's picking a little bit of a fight accidentally. I don't I don't think that's what Elon would would have a fight with because I don't think Elon I don't.

At least I don't think Elon Musk is one of these guys who supports this, like the ridiculous idea that like by 2030, we should be off of this stuff. I think he's in the business of saying, let's pioneer these alternatives so that we can get them to a place where they're viable. And then kind of like we can have a, you know, a discussion about it. But I think I've heard him say before, he's like the first to admit that he's like, yeah, we can't just like abandon fossil fuels in the next few years. That's just not.

plausible like or I should say it's not plausible unless we all want to live in abject poverty. So I don't I don't think that's actually picking much of a fight. Let me clarify what I'm saying. Sure. We just listened to Elon Musk just lobbied up a thing about meat. Donald Trump's like his McDonald's. He can talk about I used to have Trump steaks. He could get into steaks and he pivoted it to a conversation about energy infrastructure which had an angle of criticizing

the immediate pivot or need for electric cars. That seems like the wrong pivot in a conversation with Elon Musk. I get the point you're making. It's also kind of funny for just Donald Trump, the guy who ran casinos, to start telling Elon Musk about energy, electric cars or whatever. It's just an interesting move. Again, we're just jumping in the middle of a thing. I will say this, right?

But broadly speaking, about right now, it says it has 1.2 million people listening. I believe, though, that's half of a Kamala rally. Yeah, there you go. I think I believe they greatly reduced the number of people listening because they were having these tech issues. Like he said, I think they had 8 million and then it crashed and then they reduced it down.

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Um, cause I was, you know, I've been critical of him a little bit already and I was critical of him on, on Tucker's show earlier today. I will say one of the things I think he's doing that's really great is stuff like this right now. I think this is what we should be doing more of.

And just that doing a Twitter spaces with Elon Musk. I think it's great that he came to the Libertarian Convention. I think it's great that he came to that Bitcoin convention. I think it's great that he has to because really all at this point.

all I really care about with the Donald Trump presidential campaign, it's not, I've just seen too many signals that are like, if he gets back in, I just don't trust that he's learned his lessons and he's actually going to be able to drain the swamp or something like that. Um,

I really, really hope if he gets in that he pardons Ross Albrecht. He's committed multiple times to doing that on day one. I just, you know, I know Lynn Albrecht, who's Ross's mom, and I just, I've spent some time with her and, you know, her kids doing a life sentence for, look, what he was convicted of

There's just no civilized argument for why it deserves...

the type of punishment that he's gotten. It's just, you know, if people don't know, he created the Silk Road, which was like kind of like a dark web type thing where you could trade anonymously. And they really came after him and made an example out of him. And then there were like the accusations that the Fed made that he was like trying to hire people to kill someone. But, you know, the bottom line is he was never convicted of any of that. So.

So what he was convicted for is insane to go to jail for, let alone – I think he's already been in over a decade, I think. So anyway, that would be really great. But I'm not really convinced aside from that, and I'm not even convinced he'll do that. I sure hope he will. But I would really –

Like, okay, that would be great. But I don't think that in any meaningful way he's actually going to, like, drain the swamp if he gets in. However, it is like Donald Trump has basically run two middle fingers to the establishment campaigns. And we got one more out of him. And as of right now, he's the only one who's positioned –

To be that guy. Maybe someone else will rise up who could really be that guy. And when I say be that guy, meaning someone who's like has tens of millions of Americans who support him, who like are really on board and he can run a campaign that can win, you know, that has a chance of actually winning. And while we're in this moment with this campaign, you almost start to look at like, well, what are the tangible things that we can get out of it?

Okay, well, the tangible things you can get out of it would be that you can shed light on issues that...

wouldn't nobody else can like there's there's things that me and you could talk about but that's not going to get nearly as many eyeballs on it as fucking Donald Trump talking about it so like that's amazing when he can bring that up and even doing something like you know if you do it Twitter spaces with Elon Musk by the way when I said there's 1.2 million people watching I mean that's watching live and

the numbers on this are going to be insane by the time it's all over and it's posted. And even just for Donald Trump to go with Elon Musk and do this on Twitter, it, it,

This is a huge moment in like shattering the corporate media dominance, which has already been shattered quite a bit over the last few years. That's an incredible thing to do. Donald Trump going to the Libertarian Convention, going to Bitcoin conventions, this is an incredible thing to do because it now it sets a precedent.

It lays the groundwork for future campaigns to feel like they have to cater to these people. So things like that.

are what actually get me kind of excited about what Donald Trump's doing. It's not that I believe like, hey, you know, you got to vote for this guy because he's going to drain the swamp or whatever. That I've kind of given up on. But I really do think there's value in some of these things. And so I just I hope he does a lot more of that. You know what I'm saying? I agree. 100 percent. Spread the message. Go after the deep state. Do the fun stuff.

Yeah. Now, kind of I mean, kind of on topic of what to expect and not expect. You had sent this to me. I have not had a chance to watch this, Rob. But you had the the video of Donald Trump was talking about Hillary Clinton and his promises to lock her up. Well, it was it was him saying that he chose not to lock her up.

Well, he was talking about how he said he was running on Lock Her Up or whatever. So here, let's play that video if we can, Mike. I'm curious to see this.

Mr. President, President Biden has vowed not to pardon his son, who is now a convicted felon and makes him more felon than he is. He's now coming to offer alleged captivation. Would you consider preventing his pregnancy for a pardon? I don't think it's appropriate for me to talk about it. I think it's a tragic story. You want to know the truth. And I felt that with Hillary Clinton, too. You know, with Hillary Clinton, I could have done things to her that would have made your head spin.

I thought it was a very bad thing. Take the wife of a president of the United States and put her in jail. And then I see the way they treat me. That's the way it goes. But I was very protective of her. Nobody would understand that. But I was. I think my people understand it. They used to say, lock her up, lock her up. And I'd say, just relax, please.

We won the election. I think it would be very I think it would have been horrible for our country if and we had her between the hammering of all of the files. And don't forget, she got a subpoena from the United States Congress. And then after getting the subpoena, she destroyed everything that she was supposed to get. I could I didn't think I thought it was so bad to take her and put her in jail for

The wife of a president of the United States. And then when it's my turn, nobody thinks that way. I thought it was a very terrible thing. And she did a lot of very bad things. I'll tell you what, she was...

She was pretty evil. But in terms of the country and in terms of unifying the country, bringing it back to have taken her and to have put her in jail. And I think, you know, the things as well as I do, there were some pretty bad acts that she did. I think it would have been very bad for our country. And a lot of my people, a lot of the MAGA, as they call them, but the base and I think the base is horrible.

I think the base is 75% of the country, far beyond the Republican Party, because we're a party of common sense, and I'm a person of common sense. I want to have low taxes. I want to have strong borders. I want to have a strong military so that China and Russia... Look, they've allowed China and Russia to do the impossible combined. They're natural enemies. They always have been, because China needs more land, and Russia has it. They've always been natural enemies, and because of Obama...

It started with him. And then Biden, because he didn't know what the hell he was doing, they've now become one force. And now they're adding Iran to it. And they're adding North Korea to it. Pretty powerful force. This is something that is unthinkable that they allowed to happen. Hey, everyone. I'm Emily Kambada.

All right, Emily, settle down. Wow, that's that was very interesting. So I missed I had seen part of that press conference or speech slash question taking that Donald Trump did. I did not see that one. That is really fascinating. What are your what are your initial thoughts on that, Rob? All right. My initial thought is lock her up with something you said.

You started that. Yeah, that's not... It is not right to say, they kept chanting, lock her up, and I was like, settle down, boys. Like, no, no, no, you said it, motherfucker. Don't act like that's how it went down. So listen, I get it. It's a different environment now where they went after you. Everyone's concerned that you're going to start going after other people and you're letting the deep state know, hey, you don't have to shoot me. I'm not going to get in there and start going after everybody. That's right. But at the end of the day, what you're telling us is that you did make a campaign promise and...

And then you're pulling the sales. You move after it. I never saw me in Fauci. I said that like as if everyone just started chanting at his rallies and he had nothing to do with it. Yeah. Where's the wild? Where's the drain? The swamp talk. Now, maybe you want to go listen. I think it's inappropriate to go after past presidents. I think Hillary Clinton's already so irrelevant that there's no reason for me to prosecute her. But we do need to clean up the clean. Like, at least you could pivot like that. But we do need to drain the swamp.

We do need to clean up the deep state, and I would like to investigate or at least have a commission to find out why there was so much corruption at the FBI to investigate me. It's not right that American citizens should have to worry about a corrupt government going after them. You know what I mean? There's other talking points. But to just go, yeah, I lied to my constituents and told them that I was going to go after

somebody because it was good during the campaign. But not even that. He's not even walking back. I didn't say that. My constituents wanted it, and clearly I can't do that. The base was saying that. I mean, that is a wild rewriting of history to pretend that this was just something that people started chanting at my rallies. But I never said we were going to lock her up. That's not how it went. I mean, look, I'm just saying, on...

The face of it right there, that is on the level of Fauci saying I never recommended lockdowns. That's wild to say. I never said locker is these people. I'd be given a speech and then these people would just start chanting, lock her up. And I was like, whoa, settle down crowd. You know, look,

I will say it does remind me of something that I believe. I don't... God, my memory is not what it used to be. But I do... I'm not sure if it was Peter Thiel who said this or if he was quoting someone else when I heard him say this. I definitely heard him say it. But...

I think I've mentioned this before on the show, but he said that, and this was referring to the 2016 campaign, that he said that the media took Donald Trump literally, but never took him seriously. And his supporters took him seriously, but never took him literally. I always thought that was a very fascinating, like a really astute statement.

way of explaining the Donald Trump phenomenon. I think there were things where, you know, the media would just be like, he said the Mexicans are rapists. And but obviously this guy could never be president. I mean, it's such a joke. And then his supporters were kind of like, no, the point he's making is that he's going to be a border hawk.

And he could really win. You know, like they got that. You can't take the guy literally, but he's a serious person. And the media, on the other hand, was like, take him literally at every point and don't treat him like he's a serious person. I will say that I think a lot of that did apply to the lock her up stuff, which, by the way, if you want to go back and look at it.

Didn't go down exactly the way Donald Trump said. He was the one who said, we're going to lock her up. And then the crowd started chanting, lock her up at every, you know, rally. But so there's something about like I never really even thought it was within the realm of possibility that Donald Trump was going to get into power. And then, you know, like, yeah.

charge hillary clinton with crimes and you know what i mean like actually we were going to see hillary clinton in a jumpsuit or something like that i never thought that was going to happen however there's a couple things here uh number one as we we just said this is a crazy rewriting of history to say that he wasn't saying it and it was just the crowd saying it and number two

I mean, if the thing is that Donald Trump is serious but not literal, well, why does that change?

Why is it now when he's running in 2024, he's saying what a terrible thing that would be to lock her up. That's very strange. That is a really bizarre 180 from where he was when he was first running. And I got to say, I mean, the only explanation that I can think of for this is what you were just saying, Rob, which is that I, it seems to me like he's shook by

Like he's I don't know. He not only had the Justice Department weaponized against him and was really probably staring down the barrel of the possibility that he could be doing serious jail time. But then also on top of that, he kind of got shot in the face, kind of. And

At the very least, it seems like the Secret Service allowed that to happen. And maybe this is... I mean, look, there's been a lot of signals, but maybe this is just one more signal that it's kind of like, hey, guys, you don't have to, like, actually murder me. I also... The...

I think one of the blunders of the Ukraine war is that China and Russia are more aligned. And right. Right. Bricks conversation. And a lot of the world has realized that if they have deposits with us, we might seize them, that we have weaponized money against. Like, there's a lot of statements that could be made about the stupidity of the Ukraine war.

saying that Russia and China are natural enemies because China's always wanted Russian land. I don't remember ever seeing that in geopolitics anywhere. It almost sounds as dumb as the Kamala Harris. Well, this is a big country and that's a little country. Maybe he knows geopolitics that I don't, that China has always not gone along with Russia because they've always wanted to invade Russia.

and go after the oil reserves, the natural gas. But I've never seen or read that anywhere. Yeah. Also, I wouldn't describe China as a tiny country.

Right. It doesn't exactly seem accurate. And they do have a long history of being allies. You know, I mean, maybe not like perfectly in lockstep, but like, you know, they were both like large communist countries at a time. Yeah, I don't I don't think that's right. I do think there is something to be said where like, look, there's the...

Let's just say there's the ideal foreign policy is like George Washington, John Quincy Adams, Ron Paul, which is like we should be non-interventionist, avoid entangling alliances, avoid

avoid war guarantees, and be friends with foreign nations. That's kind of like the best of the American tradition is that type of foreign policy. Like, look, we're not looking to get involved in wars, and we want to be friends with everybody. And if you guys have wars, that is very bad, and we hope you resolve them soon, but we're not getting involved. I think that's the best foreign policy you could have.

Then there's like the Henry Kissinger philosophy on foreign policy, which would essentially be like, so the Henry Kissinger, you know, was Richard Nixon's guy. And this was the big thing when they opened up trade relations with China in the 70s. The reason why they went over there and met with Mao Zedong and like said nice things about him and tried to normalize relations was because they thought the

big enemy was the Soviet Union and they were allies with China. So let's kind of try to attract China over to us to kind of pit them against each other. And that is wiser, you know what I mean? Like to have them be enemies than to have them united against us. And then there is the what can only be described as the senile policy of Joe Biden, which is let's pick a fight with Russia and China.

And let's pick a fight with the two biggest nuclear powers outside of the United States of America and see if we can't fight them both at the same time. And I think what Donald Trump is saying is like he always was more really of –

Kissinger type than a Ron Paul type. He speaks like a Ron Paul type at times, but in reality, and in fact, he actually met with Henry Kissinger back when it was in 2016 or maybe it was 2017 after he was in, but he was bragging

About how Henry Kissinger totally agreed with him because his view on foreign policy at the time when he was running in 2016 was kind of the the reverse, but kind of the same as the Kissinger foreign policy of the 70s. So he was saying that that China is the big threat right now.

And Russia is less of a concern. And so this was his goal was to have detente with with Russia, make a deal with Russia to bring them in with us to kind of pit them against China.

That's been Donald Trump's understanding of foreign policies from the beginning. So I think that's kind of what he's getting at. Again, there is a point to what he's saying. I think the much wiser response would just be that we don't really need to be enemies with either of them. No.

that neither of them are conventional military threats to us. They are threats in the sense that we can all, at this point between the US, Russia, and China, we can all blow up the world many times over. And so, yeah, you can't really fight a nuclear war with any of them, but it doesn't seem like any of them are about to launch a first nuclear strike against us or anyone else unless we push them to the point of doing that.

Any more than it seems like we're about to nuke one of them. And so then you come into the realm of like, oh, I guess we can't really fight a conventional war against either of them anyway. Thank God. The only benefit of nuclear, you know, of nuclear capabilities. And so then you just it comes down to a situation of like, so what are we exactly? Economic competitors? Yeah.

Oh, okay. Well, if we're economic competitors, then we already know both logically and empirically from just the 20th century alone, well, we know what leads to economic dominance. And it ain't

centralized power or socialism, it's free markets and capitalism. So if they're nothing but an economic competitor, then the number one national security priority would be drastic cuts in spending, taxes, and regulation.

That's what you want to do if you want to actually defeat China, defeat Russia. And the frustrating part about it is that we could so easily lap all of them a hundred times over if we just had a real commitment to cutting spending, cutting taxes and cutting regulation. The problem, of course, is that.

Special interests make ungodly amounts of money off of taxation, regulation and and government intervention in general, not to mention, you know, fiat currency. All right. Listen.

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