DJ Akademiks: Drake Lost, here’s why & Brady Roast Untold Stories
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I do believe the daughter thing. I don't believe the other thing.

I found out that Metro Boomin hated Drake before it was like universally known. Because a chick he smashed in LA, I smashed in LA. They always just tell every detail. But I will tell you this, when this whole thing pops off, the weekend hits me up. And he says... What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. First of all, I just want to thank you guys so much, everybody who came out to MSG. And yeah, that was crazy, crazy. Dreams come true.

Pretty wild. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about that later. Also, thank you everybody who watched the roast. That was a really crazy experience. And I mean this in like a non-joking way at all. But Gronk is one of the, like whatever you think he is, he will exceed that in a shocking way. Like, this is my first interaction with Gronk. You ready? Yeah.

He's standing by a bathroom. Yeah. I walk up. It's Gronk, Burt, Tom. Okay? I walk up. We're talking. And I go, I don't even know why Tom Brady is doing this. Tom Segura. Yeah. I don't know why Tom Brady is doing this. And Gronk goes, oh, man, you know, sometimes you just get bored. You know? Like, sometimes you're just, you know, you're sitting in your apartment. You're in your apartment for eight days. You're not doing anything. You just want to fucking kill yourself. Ha ha ha ha!

This is before the roast has even started. We're in the hallway. I just put my hand on his shoulder. I go, I can't do this right now. I'm not walking you off this fucking bridge. We're going to lock it and be funny. I got to call you a retard in 30 minutes or three hours in 30 minutes. I can't fucking do this right now. He probably loved the roast being called a retard because he felt something. He felt something.

That shit was getting to him, bro. Did you think? Yes. He was like, in the beginning, he was like, okay, first couple people shot at me and then eventually he's like, why do they keep making the same jokes about me? Like, I don't think. There are so many things like behind the scenes that I want to like tell you guys about. Like, first of all, you know when Gronk spiked the shot glass? Yes. That had to have

Real shot glass. Yeah, he was not supposed to do this. This is right before I go up. He spiked it. But he's one of those where like the closest thing I can say is there is a video of a kid with Down syndrome that is dressed up as Stone Cold Steve Austin. And he walks up to his pool and he takes the Bud Lights, he smashes them together and he starts to drink at them as the Bud Lights have already been leaked because the glasses broke, right? That was punk. He took the shot. He wasn't even included in it.

The shot was about Tom Brady, Belichick, and Bob Kraft. And he's just there. He takes it. And he has so much energy, he doesn't know what to do. He slams it. All of us are like, what the fuck just happened? A girl in the front row has like a piece of shot glass like hanging out of her chest. And I'm not talking about a little thing flicked her. Oh my God. Her whole cheek is red. Oh, fuck. She looks like a mime.

I have to go up afterwards. So I'm just like, all right, what's the witty joke? Like, I'm like, how am I going to, it's not the first time Gronk spiked a drink. You know, I'm like thinking like, what can I acknowledge the moment? And shout out to Kevin Hart, bro. Yeah.

This guy is like, son, first of all, he's amazing, but what he did, hosts will do this in a comedy show. If something crazy happens, they'll reset the room, bring the energy back down, and then bring it back up. He took time. He calmed the room back down. Didn't even joke around about it. Just comes like, what is going on here? These guys are kind of crazy. Reset the whole room.

and even acknowledge it so I didn't even have to. And I walked up to him after. I was like, dude, you saved my ass, man. Thank you so much for that. Did you even know what you were doing? He was like, yeah, of course, man. I don't want you to have to go up after that. Like, solid guy. Did not have to do that. I'm the last comic on a fucking three-hour show. I peed three times. He didn't get to pee once. Within 30 minutes of being up there, I was like, I ain't making it. You had that Akash Singh. I was thinking about you the whole time. The second he brought that TV screen out for Bert and Tom,

I saw a couple of the football players leave and I was like, I'm out. No disrespect, Bert and Tom, but I got to fucking pee. Left, apparently there's a shot of me walking back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the best point. That's the best point. I pulled the clock. I was like, fuck, isn't this in? Yeah.

Directly in front of the camera. Yeah. Oh, my God. But you did great. Oh, thank you. You did fucking great. The jokes were fire. Unreal. I love the moments where you stepped out of the joke. Because I know probably the instinct, I assume, is just do the jokes. And you're so fucking nervous that's all you do. But when you were like, Jeff, there's no kids back there. That was great. And then the cab shit. Cab would puff. Cab, that's your boy. Fuck.

That's fun. It's funny you say that because that was the thing that I found most tricky about this, which is like, how do you...

it's not even stay in the moment, but like be in the moment from the beginning. Yeah. And I was like, okay, do I not like, I want to just go, Hey, we're in the moment here. Yeah. And then do the set instead of being like, here are the jokes. But at the same time, we're also like three hours into this. To a live telecast. Yeah. So it's like, okay, what, what can I do? But yeah, those, those moments are good. Fucking shout out Nikki Glaser. Absolutely. I, I,

I was like blown away. Yeah. She was so fucking good. If you haven't seen it yet. The pacing, the rhythm was like perfect. And then Tony. Tony, holy fuck, Tony. Amazing. Holy fuck. They were just so fucking good. Like if you haven't seen it yet, it is worth it to watch them. Yeah. Like they just were just masterful. It was great. And then Bledsoe was good. So here's the thing. Be surprised. What makes or breaks a roast is not the comedians. The non-comedians? If the non-comedians deliver...

It's a good roast. Oh, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. Non-comedian, Edelman. Oh, yeah. Holy shit. So here's the thing. They took it serious. Edelman was working it out at the comedy store. Really? Like, Drew Bledsoe hit me up afterwards. He's like, dude, you know, we were watching a lot of your stuff and some other guys. Like, they were actually studying. Like game film. Yeah, they all had to get out of it. Awesome. But I think that's what happens when you get athletes. They're like,

oh, the way to be good at something is to repeat it over and over again and watch people that are good at it. Practice and prepare and they can be good. And after watching Gronk, I believe he never watched game film. Let me tell you. I believe that about him. His joke where he's like, oh, Gronk, touchdown. Oh, Gronk, why don't you touchdown? That was personal. That was, that was Dot and Lamar. I mean, Dot and Drake. Yeah.

Fuck y'all. When he went off script, I wrote that one. Can I tell you something? That's in the prompter.

I'm reading the prompter and the prompter is written in retard, right? It's like, at one point, that one was creative. See, I'm creative. No way. The one thing that he did, or a few things he ad-libbed, one is when he's like, Kevin, I'll make you suck my dick. And all of us were like...

okay he's gone he's fucking gone he got excited by the crowd and he's out of here oh dude oh it's probably great sitting next to Burt there I don't remember who was in the other show was Nicky on the other side no Sam Sam Jay yeah yeah so you had homies on both sides Sam was great three hours Sam did fucking great I was impressed yeah it's fun when it was definitely fun when Ben Affleck was on and we were like what the fuck is this dude dude

J-Lo broke this man. Sign, sign, sign, sign. So what the fuck is wrong with Ben Affleck? He comes up and everybody's stoked, right? So hype. And, because we all love Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck's the man. Yeah. And then he started talking, he was defending Tom from internet trolls. And like-

A few minutes in, I'm like, oh, he ain't even talking about Tom. No, no, he's not. He's not. He's talking about Ben Affleck. He's talking about Batman versus Superman. It was personal. Once you saw it, you're like, is this whole thing a proxy for him to just yell at people online? I don't even know if he realizes it, but yes. That's the other thing. He might not. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. Kim Kardashian was...

She's a pro. I'll be honest. Son. She's a pro. No, she is a pro. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. We have proof. We have video proof. Yeah. No, what I would say about Kim is that she's striking. She's like perfectly symmetrical. Like you look at her and you're like, oh, wow. But I've never seen somebody be so disassociated in my life. If somebody told me,

Hey, it's not really Kim Kardashian. She has this like a robot where she can essentially control like what it says, but it's not like there's no human aspect to it. I dig. Oh, I get it now. She's a Manchurian candidate. No, she sat with perfect posture for three hours straight. Right? Smiled, laughed. Like I've never seen anything like that in life. I just...

Completely detached. She grew up with a camera on her 24-7 for the past 15 years. But some people do that and they go crazy and they're a child star. Dissociation is a form of dealing with whatever trauma. Too perfect. OJ was in her fucking room before the Bronco chase, ready to kill himself. That's probably... To give her some sympathy, that's probably... Came out to look at OJ and be like, hey, OJ, I can't do this. Yeah, again, I don't know...

I'm sure she's nice and all the other things. The only thing, it just looked completely unaffected. Yeah. And even when she was up there, they were kind of booing her. It didn't make her smile. It didn't make her sad. It was nothing. Yeah. There was one guy in the crowd

This is kind of really funny. Like, because the crowd was like basically a Buffalo Bills like tailgate. Like the beginning was like the Hollywood people and then the stands were like football fans. It's kind of nice. Thank God LA could do that. I think people flew in. Or they're like Boston Ties. Right, right, right. Kim's up. She's doing her set. She's like almost at the end of the set. And then this guy just in the stands out of nowhere just goes, Bitch! Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I was talking to... It was Gronk's uncle. I was talking to McKeever and Shane, and McKeever was like, it was as if he'd been holding it in for a whole minute, and he just couldn't hold it anymore. Like, his fists were bald. Bitch! Just seeing Kim Kardashian on stage for three minutes was too much for him. That was awesome. That was a Kanye fan. Yeah, it might have been.

No, it was cool. But what a crazy thing. Like, how often does Kim talk in front of, like, thousands and thousands of just, like, regular human beings? No, as well. Like, you know what I mean? Like, her whole life is so, like, protected and manicured. Maybe that's why she's dissociated. It was, like, overwhelming. It might be like a, yeah, like you said, like a coping mechanism for it. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think of anything else I saw. Oh, the fire thing was when Tom checked Jeff Ross. Bro. I think that was 100% real. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, really? 100%. I think it got cut from the broadcast. I'll tell you all something. The reason why I think it's real is because they told us no jokes about happy endings with Bob Craft. Because I had a Bob Craft tag. Oh. I had that joke about Randy Moss. I was like, Randy Moss, you made sure on Super Bowl Sunday it's the only people celebrating a happy ending with a priest. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then the tag was, and of course, Bob Kraft. And they were like, Tom asked us not to do anything with the massage shit. I was like, all right, cool. The guy's coming here for this thing, whatever. He's not getting roasted. He's sitting in the fucking stands. And then Jeff did it. And then Tom walks up and he goes, yo, cut that shit out. Or don't do that again. Don't say that shit again. But think about it. This is the first comic that goes on, a live roast, and it's your night. Yeah.

He was ready to shut the whole thing down. That's an alpha ass move right there. Yeah. Like for, for, for this guy who basically let him go. Yeah. Bob Kraft didn't resign him. Yeah.

And he still feels that kind of loyalty. And Brady would sign team-friendly deals, relatively speaking. So it's not like Kraft overpaid him. Like when they paid Kobe $25 million his last year or whatever, and he was kind of washed. He was like, thank you. Brady got let go. He got the opposite. He was like, all right, good luck. And still had that kind of loyalty. I thought it was an alpha. Most people would get caught up in that moment and go, I don't want to ruin. And he's like, this shit don't matter.

What matters is I said to that guy that those jokes weren't going to be made and he agreed to come and then you broke the rule. I think it was that and then Brady's kids and it was just like, who's going to fuck... Brady's a psycho. Brady's a psycho. He's a psycho. He's the greatest. He's also breathtaking. It was hard to look at him. I would roast him and I'd find myself going...

I feel like look back at the cameras too much oh man I was wondering if he does that early if he's like okay the first thing across the line I'm gonna get up there and make like a little moment to let everyone else know like yo don't fuck with me like when you fire a guy the first day on set who is it Orson Welles would do that he'd hire a guy just to fire him the first day yeah apparently that's what they do you like set a tone and let everyone know like yo don't fuck around so he's like the first thing across my line I'm gonna stand up and stop it

And that way everyone else knows, like, yo, don't talk about the kids. Don't talk about Bobby Kraft. I wonder if then maybe him and Jeff had that worked out then. No, I don't think so. I think he just was like the first thing that crossed my mind. If they talk about these two or whatever number of things in his head,

That would make a lot of sense. I'm nipping it. Yeah. That's what I'm assuming. It makes sense. I was wondering why no one made the kissing his kid joke. Yeah. That would have been. I mean, it would have gone, but at the same time, it's like, the way I look at these things is Giselle's a public figure. Yeah. Outside of him. Yeah. So yeah, we could talk about that. Yeah. If it's not someone who's public and it's like family or like children. Yeah. Yeah.

Then I'm like, I don't want to fuck it. Giselle's a supermodel. She's used to scrutiny. And that was kind of our line of thinking with the Will and Jada thing. It's like Jada's a celebrity who's been a celebrity for 10 years. She's asking for attention. She has this show out. She talks about her business. She wants that spoken about as well. Yeah. But yeah, any other reactions? I want to fucking talk about MSG, dude. Oh, I have a question. Sickness. Yes. What was the best joke you thought against you? Oh, that's good.

There weren't a ton, I'll be honest. Yo, I think, to be honest, I think what everybody thought was, oh, everybody's going to make fun of his haircut. Yeah. So I don't want to do what everybody does. So to give you guys some like behind the scenes shit, it's like everybody's making fun of the same people. So the jokes kind of get used up quick. Yeah. Right. Right.

And so you got to kind of like worry like, oh, can I do this? Is this going to happen? The later and later you go on the roast, the more and more jokes and topics get crossed off. Even if it's not the same joke, if it's about the same thing. Yeah. It gets a little diluted. Yeah. So like there was jokes that like.

So we were working with one of the producers there, right, who was helping us. And basically, he wouldn't tell us. He'd be like, hey, listen, this thing is probably... I showed him my jokes. And he was like, this thing's probably going to be kind of touched on. So maybe you want to cut it or view it. Oh, that's awesome they do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Lawrence. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a genius writer. And he wrote for a lot of the athletes and stuff like that. And he was like, okay, this one is like... We had a good one. It was like...

I said something about Giselle and I was like, Tom, a wife leaving is never something to joke about, but let's take a stab at it. That was the last text Tom got from OJ. But the OJ stuff had been done a little bit. Yeah, yeah. So especially going later in the show, you're like, okay, how can I have a unique angle? Right. But...

But yeah, so these producers are organizing all that. It's quite impressive, actually. Do you know what I mean? Like, you have to make sure how many different people on that fucking roast. 15 different people who are all talking about the same topics. Also, guys, dates real quick. First of all, big announcement. I'm going to be in Abu Dhabi during Abu Dhabi Comedy Week, May 26th.

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I'll see y'all later. Alkoshting.com. The roast was phenomenal. It was really fantastic. Live was crazy, man. Flooding Award is like, fuck. The whole joke is done. Yeah. I thought it, yeah. That shit was fun. When was the last great roast? Comedy Central days, back in the day? Yeah. We loved the Charlie Sheen one because of Patrice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was 12, 13 years ago. Bieber one was good. Yeah, like the Trump one. There was a run of really great ones that Comedy Central did. Yeah, there's...

Yeah, it was really fucking good. I feel like Kev tried to come at you at the end, and he didn't really have nothing, bro. He didn't really have nothing. I'm not saying he bombed, but I mean, he didn't really have nothing. It is funny because you can see the prompters too. Yeah. So you can see the jokes that...

Oh, you see what I'm talking about? He had those written. Me and Sam fucked up somebody's joke because I saw a punchline and me and Sam started going, oh, that shit's good. And he hadn't even said it yet. I forget who it was, but Sam and I were laughing at this shit because we were reading the head. Bro, there's a part that's so funny. Tony's doing a joke and you just see Bert behind him mouthing the words to the joke as he's saying it. I was dying laughing. I was like, oh, I forget there's a prompt. That was Gronk the entire time. No, he didn't mouth it. He's reading in his head but mouthing the words. Exactly.

that's awesome i would do the same thing a million percent yeah i just like to be ahead i'm like yeah it was a no it was really good and i think that like uh kind of way i've analyzed is like uh like i think a year ago maybe even more like the idea of you know uh what is it cancel culture woke culture is affecting comedy like that's done like if you're still talking about that now you're just fucking yeah thing on it yeah but uh

This. Maybe not with everybody. So, like, 10 minutes in, I'm watching with my shorty. She's really enjoying it. And then she's like, they're being kind of mean. And then she's like, yo, I really feel bad for Gronk. She felt so bad for him. I'm not even making a joke. Culturally, she's not, she didn't know what a roast is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you know what a roast is, if you, I mean, it

have any idea of in comedy what a roast is you get it yeah this is all all bets are off my wife probably would have said the same thing if she'd watched that early she'd been like oh but she's enough you know i mean she gets it yeah yeah you know how like it was ready to check out she was like this is too yes too much you're not this is like uh it's weirdly might have happened the same venue but you're not like when magic johnson said he had aids everybody was like oh this shit real yeah i think it happened it was announced at the forum okay

I think this will be like the defining point in our generation where people go, oh, the woke shit's dead. And it's already been dead. Tony, I mean, Tony said the F-bomb live on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's like, no tweets. The point I'm trying to make is like, it's already been dead. Yeah. But this was a moment where you had people that had everything to lose, i.e. a Tom Brady, a guy who could be worth a billion dollars. He has these like, you know, mainstream connections. He's going to be on Fox hosting the show. And he's making gay jokes and people are making gay jokes about him, racist, homophobic jokes. But nobody really seemed to go, oh my God. Yeah.

And to me, that's like the pendulum swinging. And this is like the cultural point. It already has happened. We've noticed it. It's like you roll your eyes when anybody says woke anymore. But this is like, I think the moment America realizes. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

So we'll see what happens after this. I'm very curious. Maybe that's why there was no good roast for seven, eight years. Whether it would have gone well or not, I bet Suits were like, we can't take this risk. You're 100% right. That's from the people I spoke to. They're like, yeah, everybody's afraid to do it because the jokes that are funny, they don't want to say. It's not the comics that are afraid. It's the celebrities. And the execs were like, oh, I don't know. This could get us in trouble. We could lose sponsors. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a great point. Tom admitting to a deflate gate? Oh, shit. Someone might put a little asterisk on his little record. Give me 20 million, I would have admitted it. Now, his set was good. Yeah. That Kanye-Kim joke is great. Great. I wish I knew Kim was there. I had no clue. When I did the rehearsal, I saw a chair that said Kim Kardashian. And I was like, get the fuck out of here. And I wonder if the production was saving that moment

for Tom to make that joke maybe you know what I mean like cause poor Tom gotta go up at the end end yeah yeah yeah you know so like what does he have left yeah you know

I was sick. Champion. Just cool all around. Absolute champion. And then you talked to Tom? Yeah, yeah. I got to talk to Tom a little bit. How long was the conversation? Tell me everything he said. What did he smell like? Yeah, what did he smell like? What did his hands feel like? Just a nice dude. Like, you know, just... I just asked him, one, how he prepared. I was like, were you, like, working it out? He was like, I would do it in front of the guys. Yeah. So I imagine the guys are like, you know, maybe the players are like his team. Yeah. But he looked like he had done the jokes before. Yeah, yeah. You know? And, um...

But yeah, that was about it. Nothing crazy with Tom. True Bledsoe's a fucking G. Yeah, he seems awesome. Like fun. Yeah. Like him and his brothers are...

They hit the comedy store afterwards. Oh, really? They were there? Yeah, they're just judging roast battle or something like that. Awesome. They were just, he texts me, he just goes, comedy store, pull up. What the fuck is this guy? As if you've never heard of that guy. That's the address, bro. That's awesome. Yeah, they were good. I mean, just getting to meet these guys, Charles Woodson, just getting to meet these guys. Yeah, that's sick.

You also meet some of these football players that you've seen in pads, and they're tall, but like a Charles Woodson, the guys that he would have to tackle. And then you see him, and you're like, he's not the most physical. Also, post-career, these guys deflate like crazy. Well, no, I did it once. Gronk is much skinnier. But corner safeties, dude, I did a podcast with an old cowboy legend, Darren Woodson. He was a safety, and he would lay the wood on people. He was a crazy, crazy physical player. And then you see him, and you're like, oh, he's good.

He's a little bigger than, maybe about Alex's size. Maybe a little taller because you know most people are. But, you know. Don't you have more respect for him? Yeah. Dude, absolutely. This guy's barely taller than Alex. We did the roast of Alex. You wanted to meet him. Anyway, so that was really cool. It was really cool to be a part of. So that's awesome. And it felt like an event in terms of social media. Yeah.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember Twitter back in the day when something would happen and everybody was kind of talking about the same thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had that. Or for the benefit of live. Live, yeah. Yeah. Everyone experienced something all at the same time. And they're all talking about it, tweeting about it. Dude, it's funny. So before the show, Rogan texted me and said, yo, can I give Dana White your number? I'm like, yeah, sure. And Dana hits me up. He's like, hey, man.

Can I run these? Can I just run this by you? Because I just need you to know what you think. And he runs a couple jokes by me. And they're funny. Like the thing about Tom, like, you know, you've been in Boston, so I used to think you were from there. Then I saw you run. I was like, no, he's definitely from San Francisco. That's a really good. Few jokes, but the one about the trans, my name is Dana. Yeah. It's not trans enough for you liberal fucks. He says it to me and I'm like.

I don't know if that's going to go over. I call him back. I go, bro, I don't know if that one's going to really hit. I don't know if that's going to be the one. And he goes, like, what do you think? And I'm like, I just don't know if it's going to get the big laughs. And then he goes...

oh, I don't care about that. I just want them to know I don't give a fuck. That's awesome. That's awesome. That keeps it perfect. Awesome. Awesome. Oh, it's going to accomplish that. And his was actually good. He killed it. He did great. Afterwards, he comes up to you and says, I'm never doing that again. But I thought he fucking rocked it. Yeah, I think he was doubting himself because a couple times he's like, oh, no, no, I don't like that or whatever. No, he delivered. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a great... Dude, again, the non-athletes delivered. They fucking... You're like, oh, fuck. The non-comedians delivered. Dude, Edelman... Edelman rocked. I was blown away. Yeah. For a wide receiver, a football player to make... Whoever wrote those jokes and for him to be like, let's go. And whatever input he had on them, fucking crushed it. Yeah, yeah. Crushed it. No, he murdered. He murdered. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. So, yeah.

Can we give you some love finalists? Yes, okay, sure, sure, sure, sure. Andrew Schultz, Madison Square Garden. Two fucking shows, back to back. Comedy complete. Fucking believable. Dreams achieved. That's it. Yeah, that was crazy. You're done. That was crazy. Yeah, I'm done. I literally, I can retire right now. Yeah. And I feel like I achieved everything I ever wanted to. Say whatever you want to say, then I'm going to compliment you. You're going to get uncomfortable, and we'll power through that, but you say what you want to say first. Okay, the most difficult part of the whole thing was trying to not mouth the N-word when 50 Cent was on the show.

That was the only thing that was going through my mind. 50s on, first of all, I didn't even know about June had shown up. So they tell us that like maybe an hour before. They're like, we need three mics. And I go, what?

And then they're like, yeah, Yeo and Uncle Murdoch. I'm like, okay, this is going to be crazy. So they're on stage, they're rapping. I'm like, do not say the N-word. I also, I hope we have video. What do you mean? I have 13,000 eyeballs on me. There's fucking cameras everywhere. I know Shifty zoomed in on my lips because he didn't wait for me to drop it. So I'm concentrating on not saying the N-word. Tony Yeo's at the front of the stage, comes back, right? I hope we have video for this because there is an ultimate...

I missed a dap. And by missed, I mean he didn't even acknowledge my dap. I threw the hand up like this. I think he looked at me and just went the other way. And I was like, hey. I was focusing too much on not saying the N word. I almost said it right there.

No, I think we need to delete all the footage because I'm unfortunately standing directly behind 50 Cent the whole time. And I'm just in a daze. I'm like, holy shit, this is crazy. You a dick. I've never been whiter than you, bro. I was like, what is, how do you dance? You're a white bitch on Fashion Week. I've never listened to Stan's dance.

Don't blame it on the blackout, dawg. You know, that's when you're just supposed to feel the rhythm, right? Well, that's the problem. I was feeling it. I was feeling it for the first two songs. I was like, wait a second. I feel like an idiot. And then I was looking at 50. I was like, yo, I'm just going to do a 50 Cent does because he's cool. And if I just copy him, then no one can say anything. Okay. And so 50 was doing this move where he's standing there and he goes like this and he's got his hips going. And so I was like,

oh, that's easy to do. I'll do that. And so you just saw me do it and I was doing the exact same thing. And if you look at 52 and he looks so cool and then if you cut him over to me, I look so bad. I just look like a backup dancer the whole time. I knew Mark was going to cut. I just throw my arm around him. I just hold him because I knew. Because Derek and I were really into it and Mark was just alone and he didn't know how to be too into it. But he is dead center. Oh my God.

Just in it. And the problem is, the thing whiter than what happened on stage... I need that. Oh, yeah, we got to... I need that. I need that. I need that. The only thing whiter than what happened on stage was backstage when I was studying the songs. I have videos of this, too. So I was with Derek, and I was like, hey, what's that one song that's like, what up, cuz? What up, cuz? What up, cuz?

And he was like, oh, what up, Gangsta? I was like, all right, cool. I was going through all the lyrics to make sure I knew the lyrics because I'm not going to, I can't not know the words. Wikipedia. Yeah. Because I didn't know why the song. So just live life, bro. I didn't know the song, bro. You didn't have to rap it. Don't rap the song. But at least he didn't know the beat or something. Oh, my God.

- And then when you know the words, just look up at the stands like you're really taking it in. - Wow. - Like you're really taking it in. - When I didn't know any words, I was like, wow.

Look at what we've done. And back to the chorus. What up, gang? Stop! It was unreal. Oh, my God. Y'all never look whiter, bro. Derek was so excited, he pulls us both in. He goes, y'all can say the N-word. Just this one time. I give y'all permission. Y'all can say it. I'm trying to set you up. Yeah, yeah. Good move not saying it.

He tried to drink you right there. Son, dead ass, I swear to God. Oh my God. There is one moment where I think none of them said the N word. I think they all ducked it themselves out of like pure professionalism. Like I imagine they've done this

They were like choreographed. It was like really awesome to see what they were doing and really utilizing the whole stage. Like clearly they've been doing this shit for fucking decades. You got some more respect for rap live performances. I told you after watching 50, right? I told you the first time in Boston, I was like, this guy can shut it down. Like it was just awesome. But they all ducked the N word at the same time.

If you had taken Eric's advice, yeah. I would be the only one in the arena that would have screamed it. Like, if I just grunked it, if I got caught up in the momentum. It would have echoed. Stop the tape. Just crazy. Just crazy. It was wild. 50 is a fucking man, dude. Just to do that. Awesome. Awesome.

So cool. Threw his jacket into the crowd. Threw his hat, threw his jacket. Signed it too. Yeah, so he signed it and then that's whoever got it. Pro move. That's dope. Right? Unbelievable. I mean, just like, yeah, I don't know. It's also, it was a cool energy doing the show. I'm like hyper concerned with people having a good time. Like I really want them to just leave there going like, man, that was just the best night out. Yeah. And it felt really cool doing the show.

knowing I had this like little ace in the hole, little treat for them. Like the show, thank God, was going great. And then it ended. And I looked at them and I was like, wow, they got a really great show. And then they get this. And it was just like seeing their faces was just crazy. Did you hear me say it?

What? The 50 Give Up of These? Yes. Yeah, we all heard it. No, but it wasn't clear. Yeah. It wasn't clear. It was really cool. You said it and I was in the crowd filming the crowd and a bunch of people who maybe heard it got hyped and then he came out and the whole place lights up, dude. That's unbelievable. It was unreal. Yeah. Man, I told you I was going to go see you as a fan this time.

And I got... Yeah, I wanted you to go on, man. I know, I know. I wanted to come as a fan. Also, I just dropped my whole hour and I was like, I don't know if I got a tight five for the arena right now. That's a different muscle. But I was... Before that, I didn't... Yeah, of course you asked. Always asks. I loved it. I love you for that. I didn't get to make it to Toronto, so I was like, I want to see him first time MSG as a fan. It was your best hour. Oh, thank you, man. And everybody knows how much I love you and gas you and think you're so amazing. For this to be your best hour at MSG...

That's a fucking amazing thing, man. And it's like, I was blown away. My wife cried. I cried. It was like a fucking awesome. The jokes were hilarious nonstop. So, so, so, so proud of you. Unbelievable, man. I was just like overjoyed. Alex and I hugged each other after the show and we were like, we did something. Yeah, we all made that happen.

Like, this is years in the making. 2009 or 8 or whatever the fuck we met, we really had nothing. And then to see you sell out MSG and then deliver. That's the part that it's like, you don't, people don't often deliver as they get to that level. And for this to be your best, I was like,

Oh man, so proud of you. Now, if I can criticize you for one thing, my seats were amazing. They were on the floor. Yeah. Seat numbers nine through 11. What was that about? No way. What was that? Why? No way. Why I get seats nine, 10 and 11? Bro, that was for Vala's family. How did you end up there? No, no, no. Dude, that reminds me, I remember the hotel that they- Yeah, 7-Eleven. I've gotten it multiple times, by the way. That is just terrible. Oh, that's great. He got given room 7-Eleven by the hotel. Yeah.

But yeah, thank you so much for just coming and being there and like, yeah, just everything to make it happen. It is crazy to have like a sustained...

belief in something and dream for that long it's like 17 years to have like one specific thing yeah and and then have it happen i don't think i've really fully processed at all but i am incredibly grateful like everybody that showed up and and the excitement of people that want to be there for the moment i thought that was really cool yeah you know and um

Yeah, it was just, it was just cool. It's just awesome, man. I don't know. It's just so awesome. Felt so grateful. Get my folks to see me there, you know? Yeah, that was so sweet. Yeah, it's just, you've been having a cool year, dude. Got a baby. MSG. Yeah, bringing the baby. Oh yeah, that was, that was when I, that was maybe the coolest. That was when I, yeah. And with the headphone on,

- Oh my God. - She was listening to 50 Cent? - She was unbothered. - That was so weird. - She was unbothered, man. - Couldn't have cared less. - That was her moment right there. - Isn't that crazy? - That was fire. Nah, that's what I cried too. You put me in the black row. So I have academics on my left, I have a strong mate to my right. That moment happens. I'm holding back tears. But I want to start bawling. I'm like,

I can't have anyone in the same age. I'll get emotional. And then just one just came out. I was like...

That's crazy, man. That was so beautiful. I still haven't taken it in. That's so crazy, man. It's so fucking nuts. Madison Square Garden. Wow. Yeah. Honestly, at the end, we took a picture in the stands. It's kind of weird. It's such a weird being a human being. The things that you can, I don't want to say get used to, but since we have done some arenas, they do kind of look similar from the stage.

Right? You still walk in, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. But it isn't an experience that we haven't had. In other words, we have experienced it before. Obviously, the garden means so much more. But when we went into the stands and then looked down, they were turning it into the hockey rink. Oh, yeah. At the end, it was just this like, what? When we were walking around and saw concession stands, we're like, whoa, people sell hot dogs at the venue we performed at? Yeah. Like, it...

I guess weirdly enough, being outside of the performance area is where it really seemed like this. The second day I was just walking all around.

I was just walking everywhere. Just feeling it. What the fuck? I just couldn't believe this shit. People selling shirts outside. Yeah, the street vendor making money on the people coming in. Isn't this crazy? Yeah, the bootlegs were kind of fire, bro. Were they really fire? Oh my God. I wish I... Gotta hire those motherfuckers. I bet it was the dude who made our shirt. Ali! Ali, we need to talk, bro. That's actually a great hustle. You find out what shirt is going to be sold there.

And then you just make your own version of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Have you been to the garden? No. Pay attention to those things. We should start that. We should do that instead. Yeah. Also, just how it ended up. Like, the only way that that show could have happened was one scenario. I don't know if I've explained this on the pod since. No. So there was only one scenario that that show happens. Okay. The Saturday show. The Saturday show. Yeah. Sorry. The Friday was locked in, but the Saturday. Okay.

So basically, the Knicks had to go to six games and win in six. We didn't know that. So I was told all the Knicks had to do was win. They had to just clinch, right? And in game five, I'm like hoping that they win and then we go. So I start the day of game five going, the Knicks got to win. Midway through the day of game five, they go, hey, if the Knicks win and the Pacers win, then they're going to start their next series on Saturday. You lose your Saturday show.

I go, fuck, so I need the Knicks win, but then the Pacers will lose, right? Yeah. Then a little later, no, sorry, then during the game, we get the text message and it says, if Carolina, the Carolina Hurricanes beat the Islanders, they'll sweep them. They're going to start their series with the Rangers on Saturday. Oh, fuck. So now I'm watching three games. Yeah. Or no, I'm looking at three different scenarios. The Knicks lose.

But so do the Pacers. Not like it would have mattered, but they did lose as well. So the Pacers have to extend. Now we're in a tricky situation. The Carolina Hurricanes won. So they can play the Rangers, but the Knicks have priority in that Saturday date. So the NHL has to wait until the Knicks win game six to even announce the

Does that make sense? I think so, yeah. Basically what I'm saying is the Knicks own that Saturday. They have priority over NHL. NHL wants the Saturday, but they can't claim it until the Knicks no longer need it and they won't know until the Knicks win game six. Which is Thursday night. Which is Thursday. And so are they really going to promote, announce, and get all the teams there with 24 hours notice? Oh, yeah. Okay. Because you got to sell tickets. Because you have to do all these things. People have plans. There's travelers, everything. So,

They don't tell us until 3 p.m. the day before. So they have until 3 p.m. We finally get the message the day before. And then obviously the Knicks go close out and win. All right.

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We're up six. My wife is watching the game. She goes, oh, 29 seconds left. She goes, oh, they got it. I go, what? She goes, yeah, they got it. I go, we don't do, what do you mean? We don't do that. She goes, there's six points. There's only 28 seconds left. There's no way that they can't lose. I go, you don't know the Knicks. Yeah. We can lose any lead. Right? I said, we're the Hillary Clinton of basketball teams. There is not a lead that we cannot lose.

She goes, no, it's impossible for them to lose. I go, Emma, you got to shut it down. Shut it down right now. And then she sat there and watched that lead evaporate. And I just saw her get so quiet. It was, this is how I knew she was embarrassed. She started a fight with me.

She's like, you're using tone and you're rude with me. I was like, well, maybe because you just destroyed my life's dream by making the fucking Knicks loose. But it turns out that's the only thing that allowed that Saturday show to happen. So it worked out. Anyway.

Thank you guys so much. And everybody who came out and everybody who's, you know, just been instrumental in even making this thing happen. Also, Derek, Mark, y'all fucking killed it. Thank y'all. Awesome. Yes, we did, man. Love watching y'all up there. Thank you for the opportunity, man. That was crazy. Especially the dance number at the end. Unbelievable. Some of you.

I love y'all, man. That's really where it came through. I hit my girl. You knew it. It was so good. Please send it to me.

But yo, thank you so much, man. And thanks to all the team for pulling up too. Miles, Shub, you know, you guys aren't really on the road with us, but to like just pull up and help out in those days, that's huge. And just thank you everybody who was there. Cassetta was also there making sure audio was good. I mean, yeah, it was just all around team event and it was, it was fucking awesome. Thank you. Amazing. Got to live my dream, man. I got to live my dream and that was really cool. And I hope you all get to experience something like that in your life, man. Cause that is a, it's really awesome.

Really awesome. Okay. Enough being gay. No more gay stuff. Okay. Guys, we have a beef that has turned violent potentially. Potentially. And we need to discuss it. We need an expert in here to discuss it. And there's only one guy that we can go to at times like this. Absolutely. When the going gets rough.

The rough get, what is it saying? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Oh yeah, when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Academic, the good academic. Tough get academic. So we got DJ Academics in a motherfucking room. Give it up for DJ Academics. Here to make sense of all the madness, Jews and Muslims are fighting. Drake versus Kendrick, talk to us. What do you think, bro? Is Kendrick Muslim or no?

Shit, he might be the way out. He's going, you know what I mean? He's got terror. He's got terror. You're shooting my man Drake like he's pork. I don't know what's going on, man. I don't know, man. Hold on real quick. I got to give you the flowers first, man. Yo, listen, man. MSG show, surreal, man. Thank you. Watching someone who is in the entertainment field as yourself and watching what you accomplished. I walked in that building.

And I had the same first five, ten minutes that I had when I walked into your Radio City Music Hall show. And it was just kind of looking around and I'm like, this motherfucker did it. How do you even get this? How do you even get to this spot? So I was very impressed by the show. Mark, you fucking killed it. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. You annihilated it. Oh, thank you. Derek. Opener, Derek. Kill that shit, too. And watching you up there was just like...

I was like, yo, my man really worked. I thought he was going to be overcoming emotion too. Like I thought, I thought you were going to cry. I called that. You did not. I didn't feel it was, it was weird. What was happening? Yeah. It was weird. What's happening up there? I don't know. I was filled with a lot of things, but it didn't make me want to cry. I cried the next day. I was like walking around Saturday.

The audience had the feel, at least from my perspective, and you guys can tell me what you guys thought. It was like they were more celebrating you in that moment than

where it was just like, they were just happy. They've probably been around with you forever, my nigga. They probably went to shows where it was just you and 200 people. And these, the first show you put online, right? So tickets probably sold out. These are like the hardcore, hardcore fans. Yeah. No, Saturday. Oh, Saturday 1st? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, man, it was, yeah, it was just, they knew the moment. They knew like the importance of it. Yeah. You know? And it was cool. It's funny. It's funny.

And Charlotte hit me and he was like, yo, can Act come backstage? And I was like, yeah, we gave him backstage access. And then we didn't see him.

And then Taylor comes up to me. She's like, yo, Drake just dropped again. I was like, oh, this motherfucker, Ak, already streaming. As I'm saying, this motherfucker is already on a laptop somewhere. You want me to give you the story? Okay. So, all right. Well, listen, I'm really big on- So it's Friday night, was it May 3rd? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So first and foremost, I'm really big on supporting people who have supported me, my guys. You know what I mean? I really appreciate you coming through.

Joe hits me, says, I need you to do my part. I say, Celeste, I'm there. You're a big show. I'm like, I got to be there. I feel like I need to be a part of this moment and witness you having this experience. I got to be there, right?

And I'm like, yo, rap diss songs have been dropping about every 13 hours. And I'm like, you guys got to give me a break. The universe has to be like, yo, ceasefire. Go ceasefire. Let my boy get a comedy show or something. Like, come on. So I'm like, all right, bet.

I'm in there. I'm watching. Everything is great. 50 comes out. 50 loves you, bro. Yo, 50's the man. 50's the man. 50 comes out. Everything is good. And I'm like, all right, cool. Yo, I can't wait to get backstage when he chop it up with everyone. I see this motherfucker right here. The first thing Akash says to me is like, yo, Crony. I'm like, yo. I see, of course, Alex. And I'm like, all right, cool. Everything is good. And my phone just starts to... Explode. Starts to work a little bit. And...

And Drake says to me, no, I asked Drake, I said, Drake, yo, because this is after country just dropped. I said, bro, you just need to give me the heads up of what's going to be what. Because, you know, I got to make sure I'm at the right spot. And right now I'm not in the right spot. And he says, yo, you got 30 minutes. Get on stream.

And I'm like, this is the, like, I think 50 is still on stage. And I'm like, yo. And to set the stage, just Drake has told us he's dropping the nuke at this point. Yes. So he says, you got 30 minutes, I'm dropping the nuke. Yo, I looked at everyone around me. Yeah, that was there. And clue my security and I said, beeline for the door, get the driver outside. We're going back to Jersey.

We might have to run tolls. We might have to drive the wrong way. Instantly, I get back to the crib, and I got back with about 10 minutes to go. Yeah, yeah. Loaded up. I obviously knew what the play was. Song drops. Just another historic night, man. Did you get the song ahead of time? No. Okay. Does that ever happen? Um...

No. Well, I don't want to get this because it's about... You want to react live. Yes. And that's what people want to see. You taint the reaction. I'll give you a tidbit that I've never said before. So when the first time the first song comes out, Push Ups, it got leaked on my Reddit.

Right. And I don't know how they got it. It was a very rough version, but that's when everyone's like, is it AI? Was that the money beat when it still had the biggie beat on it? Yes. The original. And and I hit Drake and I'm like, I'm like, yo, Cody, Cody, are we going?

Like, is this it? You know, because everyone was saying, yo, who's going to go first, him or Kendrick? And I think Drake was just getting like, he wanted to get it over with. So he's like, fuck it, I'm going to do it.

But I really don't know how it really got leaked. But I asked him about it and he said he didn't give me a yes or no. He was just like, yo, could you get that taken down? That already told me. I'm like, OK. And I was like, well, I don't control my Reddit. And I'm like, well, I still got to do my job. Right. He's not really telling me if it's real or it's not. Fuck it. I'm going to go on stream. Let's at least play around with some of these alternate versions of what this could be.

I'm playing the song. You know, people are they're kind of having this lukewarm response is a very unmixed, unfinished song. I look at my phone. Stop playing that bullshit. Here's the real shit. Yeah, there you go. I put the real shit on and I don't know how people listen faster to me because I think we're all moving in seconds. But I get I get it almost damn near first. And.

I'm playing it. Everyone in my chat, they're spamming, you're on the song. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to about the end of the song. I hear the voice note from me, which is from my stream, and I'm like, holy shit. That's crazy. That was your Madison Square Garden. For me, I remember when every rapper has ever mentioned me. I remember Em even mentioned me. I was like, oh shit, Eminem is mentioned. When Drake used that clip, I was like,

I'm immortalized. That's it. That's it. Because I remember back to back, Charlotte, like, yo, you gonna make me buy bottles of Charlotte, baby? And I was just like, damn. One day. One day. That's why I thought the bigger cosign was 616 in L.A. When they identify you as the opps, that's like. No, no. When both of them, when they both mentioned me, the 616 in L.A. thing.

Which, okay, so now, you know, this whole thing is happening. Drake drops. And of course, I'm going to be honest with you. I really didn't think Kendrick was going to drop. Because like the word was just that, you know, even I've said popular, I said, he's good at making moments. He's not good at like disses.

It's like seeing a guy and he's hitting the speed bag and you're like, yo, this guy's a fighter, but you've never seen him fight. You really don't know. So it's like, let's go off you thinking I'm a great fighter rather than seeing how I move when the pressure is really on. You really didn't think he was going to drop? He's been calling for this. No, no. Not like...

I'm dropping back to back. I thought he was going to respond maybe on his album, but in like a little tasteful way. Not like, okay, let's drop song for song. Let's do it now. So I know Drake was ready to do it now. So I started a countdown. I'm like, all right, let's see. And I honestly thought I was going to go to like, yo, this is day 70, not responding. Day 17th came, he dropped Euphoria. I'm like fucking shocked. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? They're dropping songs back to back. And then I also started realizing something very unique.

My stream is almost the place where this, the biggest, if you ask me, the biggest beef in hip hop history. Yeah. Musically, right? Because obviously, you know, we don't, Biggie and Pac and those had really serious dioramifications. But just musically, this is the most songs we've ever got. Hip hop is bigger than it was 25 years ago. The consumption is crazier. Yeah. Right? And I'm watching this and I'm like, this is all playing out.

Where my stream is the town square. You're the epicenter of it all. Yeah. I'm the radio station. I'm not only the media, but I'm like the reflection and where the fans are coming to, to consume this for the first time. And I'm the premiere. You know, I know that pushups drop next day. Actually, pushups drops the official. So I'm on a 10 hour, actually 12 hours live stream.

I'm playing the leaked version. Two hours later, I get the real version. So I'm like, fuck it. We got the real version now and there's an extra beat at the end. I'm playing that shit. I'm like, okay, this is dope. Two and a half hours later, which by the way, it shows how long I stream for. Two and a half hours later,

Rick Ross's man hits me and I'm thinking he just wants to call into the stream. Shout out to my man Sam Sneak. He said, "Ack, hit me. It's important. It's urgent." I'm like, "Okay, you probably just want to get on." I just want to ask him, "Why does Rick Ross not like Drake? Did Drake steal his wings? What's going on?" Yo, he calls into the stream. He's like, "Just check your phone." Ross goes into the studio, makes a diss song in three hours. They sent, I don't know how quickly they did everything. They sent it to me while I'm still on stream to premiere that. That happens.

But also simultaneously the R&B, like, listen, I blame all this on Cat Williams. You know what I mean? Ever since he said that. Yeah, truly. Truly. He was a catalyst. Yeah. Yeah. Because you saw it get, I really think you saw it could get rewarded. Yes. Cat has like 60 million views or whatever on that episode. We all want to see his new special that came out, I think, Saturday. Yeah. It kind of revived Cat in a way. So I think a lot of people like me who love being haters were like, oh,

You could get rewarded for this. Whereas for 20 years before that, it was like, hey, if you got negative shit to say, everybody's going to look at you crazy. Just fall back. But I feel like if it's substantiated and you got it and it's logically sound, people will reward it. And I think 2024 has been like that for that reason. And I'm in this moment of realizing this shift that's happened. I'm like, did Ross really just send me

Like I know some people joke about the DJ on my name. They be like, yo, you're just academics, bro. You haven't DJed in a while, which to be fair, I haven't DJed in a long time. I used to do it back in college. But like that's what the quintessential role of a DJ is, a premier record. So I get that from Ross and I'm like, oh shit. And I'm like, all right, I'm kind of going through the moments here.

Another song drops and Quavo and Chris Brown, they're beefing too. I almost call that an R&B beef, but it's not because it was a rapper. And Chris Brown goes crazy. By the way, it seems like everybody's fighting over girls, right? They go crazy. Quavo calls me the next morning.

Instantly, I'm thinking, because I've had a conversation with Quavo before, and I'm thinking he's mad at me for something I said on the stream. Because I get pretty heated and passionate, and sometimes I say some shit. And I do try to get my, I'm not Schultz or anything, or Akash or anything, or Mark, but I try to get my little jokes off. You're very funny. Very funny. I get the call. Quavo says, yo, he's like, yo, you hyped up that Chris Brown song so crazy?

He said, "Why you doing me like that?" I'm like, "I'm just reacting to music, like new music is dropping." Yo, he's like, "You know I was gonna come back, right?" I said, "Where?" I said, "Good!" He's like, "Yo, I got it, but I only want you to drop it." Fire! I'm like, "Let's do it! Let's do it!" So pretty much ever since then, and then every time after that, while I was on stream,

and I have no communication with the team, Kendrick drops only when I'm on stream. He hasn't done a non-stream drop since Euphoria. Interesting. So they know. He's dropped five songs every song. We all stream 12 hours a day. You're on stream a lot. You're never not on stream. He's going to drop one. Son, you were on stream at 9.15 in the morning when he dropped Friday? This Friday? 6.16 in LA. That's 9.16 in LA. Yes. God damn.

What were you doing? I'll tell you why I was on stream. So the night before I'm on stream, and I ain't gonna lie, I was blessed. I got off stream early. Usually I do six hours. It's about two hours and 45 minutes. He said, I gotta go. Yo, I started looking up because on my streams, we do everything live. So we're Googling, we're doing things, we're getting lyrics, we're trying to connect dots. And

I remember I had like a cup of like tequila and I was mixing with orange juice. And sometimes I'll be turning up to music before while drinking. I don't know what happened. I might have drunk myself. I might have did it myself, my brother. You know what I'm saying? And what happened was like, I started looking up at the screen and the words were just, it was like I was dyslexic. And usually when that happens, it's like I'm clear. Powered down. Yeah, I'm clear void enough to know, hey, when you're talking, you're talking.

You have to think to talk. And you usually talk for 10 hours without thinking. And I'm hearing words getting kind of mingled. And I'm like, I got to get off of here. Because the audience might not know the instant drop off. But cerebrally, like, I'm dumb. It's only going to get worse.

And I think I just like cut the stream off. I lost power. I don't want to tell them. But you did. You brained it. So I'm feeling so guilty because at this point they're used to the six hours. They're like, yo, what the fuck was that? Three hours? You're a bitch. So I'm like, all right, man. Let me just get sober. The internet started speculating why he just cut the live stream off. You're telling me that...

They're telling me that Drake is, yo, Drake must have blah, blah, blah. No. So I'm like, because really I was about to break down Drake's lyrics. I'm like, you know what? I wake up. First thing I do, go feed my dogs, whatever. I'm like, yo, I'm on stream, early stream. Soon as I get on stream, I'm about to break down Drake's lyrics. And I have about like, it's almost like 100,000 people watching. Whoa. Yeah. In the morning.

And I'm like getting to it. Like I'm in like the first verse and everyone's like, yo, Kendrick drop. I'm like, I'm looking at the comments. I'm like, you guys are fucking trolls. Wait, what are you streaming on? I'm streaming on multiple platforms. Twitter is Twitter. So I stream on two YouTube platforms. And it's a simultaneous stream. Yes. You see that? So if you're on Twitch. We're about to start streaming on TikTok too.

Interesting. Got it, got it. For big moments, I get on X as well. Yeah. Because I don't know the monetization strategy yet fully for X, but, you know... It's more about eyeballs at this point. Like, let's create... But you can have one single stream that disseminates to all these different platforms. Yeah, just on YouTube, we almost...

Within two channels, I have one with like 80,000 and another with 30,000. Rumble will have about like 35 or 25. And then Twitch. X had like an 800,000. Yeah, yeah. And then the reach on X is like...

Like, you know, I have some theories about like my Twitter is like it's like a steroids, right? Yeah, you like yes. Yeah, I responded to yeah Elon responded to Like the last stream was like yo, this is what we're tapped into like he literally I go live it sends out a tweet when you when you go live on X and He goes in the comments and says this is what everyone cares about right now

now wow elon is african bro shout out to elon dude that's fire i don't know how he has time for like yeah i know i haven't even listened all this distract how is it well go make a call i know to see that level i was like

This is like such a commercially viable and accessible rap beef, but it's benefiting so many people. All right, let's talk about... I want to know your thoughts on who is up right now and all this other stuff. But first of all, the way that the media has played a part in this rap beef is really interesting to me. Because...

It's rappers openly using media to promote the songs. Whereas back in the day, I don't know if it's like, I don't know if there's a conversation where this person's hitting up DJ Clue and saying, yo, can you play this at this time? And then like, I don't know if it was as open. This is open. I'm sure it was. Yeah. It's always been like this. Yeah. Okay. So break that down. If we go back in time, you know, uh,

Charlamagne getting mentioned is literally because Charlamagne was on a rival station going and Flex was premiering diss songs to Drake.

So how do you kind of... Take a shot at Flex. This is why he's like, yo, I'm going to tell Clue to drop a bomb on him. That's Flex's thing. Clue's on the other radio station. So it was like trying to take the power and the influence because everyone used to be tuned to that box, which was the radio, and listen to Flex. There's a notorious moment in hip hop when...

flex premieres otis which is a song by kanye yeah um jay-z and he played like 89 times yeah but that made the record him premiering i get money made that record that was the influence that and that's my argument is that media's always had this these artists know that it's not necessarily about premiering the song because these artists now have the platform and these songs are going to do what they're going to do it's like how do you get to kind of

influence a narrative i've always told told people way back even from the 69 era i said listen i tell every artist i remember having this conversation with cardi b you can't fight media you should as an artist you need to friend them yeah utilize them yeah you you need to again you know notoriously i forgot the famous quote but it's like um if one story that could be completely career-ending

If you have a little bit of influence or relationship with that media outlet, it's just seen as a mistake rather than this is like this maniacal intentional thing. Yeah, because the media is so prolific at like creating narratives and storylines and then pushing that information on the people. Whereas like the rapper can do it and they can address it.

but the media is just nonstop and that other people are picking up what you're saying and their blog accounts picking up what other blog accounts have picked up from what you're saying. And if there is a cohesive effort, for example, like you, Graham Wizard, Keep Six Solid, like if you guys are all Team Drake and pushing out same information and that's what my feed is, I'm like, well, they got to be right. All these different things. Now, here's my question, though.

Once, well, let me just ask it. Once everybody knows that you guys are Team Drake, does that make us look at information that is critical of the opposition differently? For example, if I see a Fox News headline talking about some liberal politician, I immediately go, well, of course, they're going to trash that person. So I might need to look into this story to see if there's truth there.

Do you understand? Yeah. Does it discredit the criticism of the other side once we know that you guys have an allegiance? It does once that doesn't align with what the public thinks. Keep expanding that. Like, for example, I came out and I said, hey, listen—

If, you know, I don't think, by the way, this back and forth is done. But if I had to score it in this cross section of time, I got Kendrick slightly up. So now the audience goes, okay, he's being honest. Yeah, right. If I'm just saying, Drake. Yo, Drake is body. Knocked him out. Then everybody goes, oh, he's body. Oh, this is a lie. You get what I mean? So you feel in order to maintain your body.

I guess credibility with the audience. You have to review things as they are, even though you're openly a fan of... It's almost like there's certain people for like with Barstool, for example, they might be a big fan of the Patriots or a big fan of the Celtics. But if they're playing like shit, they have to acknowledge that...

That they're not playing up to the standard or else the audience starts to go, oh, you just say they're good no matter what. I can't trust you. 100%. Got it. So you still feel a need to go, this is where I see it. 100%. Like, so I'm, you know, what we do even like on my stream, like we're breaking down these, you know, attacks at each other, these allegations. And, you know, it would be very convenient to be like, well, we'll just keep going.

breaking down the things that would make this person look whatever type of way. But you feel responsibility. No, you have to, right? So like, even though he's saying certain things about Drake, it's like, you gotta look into them, right? You have to, like, everything is... And that's the thing about a stream. They can tell when you're hiding something, right? Like, hey, there's a popular video that's recapping maybe like some grooming allegations by Drake. If you don't go watch that and you're watching everything for 10 hours, my God. They'll call you out. Of course. They're like, yo, you know, so again...

You know, what do you think about this? Honestly, I think the grooming thing is bullshit. And I think it's really and again, I don't know enough about it, but I find it very hard to believe that somebody that is that famous would be open about doing that if those were his intentions. Hey, let me tell you, I personally know what I mean. And also like that label, even the accusation, like think about what the accusation is. Right. If somebody goes, yo, you're a pedophile.

Even if someone accused, I don't even want to say Alex, like even if someone accused Miles, even if someone accused Miles of being a pedophile, knowing that he was accused, you would never let him babysit your kid, even though you know he's innocent. Just the fact that there was an accusation, you'd be like, I don't even, like it's such a fucking, what is it, scarlet letter, even the accusation. I think this is going to alter Judge Square for the rest of his life.

I think he's going to have to move different and be cognizant. You know, the other day he was seen with Lotto's little sister. She was 21, but still some people were like, why are you with young girls? Right? And I think he's going to always take that into accountability. Now, I think...

You know, on either this album, maybe with Certified Lover Boy, like he was rapping about like she was 21 or like his name dropping or age dropping the girls. And they're like, cool song. And if we remove you from all the lyrics, but if we think in...

You know, like he has a song called like TSU. It was like, yo, why is a 37 year old guy rapping about a college campus? Like, you know what I mean? You seen the video of the girl being like, Drake hit me up. He saw me at, he was a fan of high school girls basketball. And then he hit me in my, and it's like-

I'm going to be honest with you. Why are you a fan of any women's basketball? Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. This is just me personally. You know what I mean? This is me personally. They can't even lay up with their offhand probably. I've never met Drake personally. I can't tell what he's into and what he's not into. I can only tell what I've seen publicly, right? And I've seen the girls that he's allegedly romantically involved with. Um...

That's a different conversation than if we're going down this, like, because the thing is, if you accuse somebody of being a pedophile, you're accusing them of liking prepubescent teens, right? Like, if Drake had just... Well, they could be post-pubescent teens, under 18. Okay, all right. Let me ask. Do you think... Yeah, we don't divide them up. Yeah. Yeah, what is... No, no, no. Because maybe when people do that, they're like, technically, from 13 or whatever... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think there's allegations. What the fuck is going on? I don't think...

- I think there's a reality here. - Teen Drake? - Now you're looking biased. - A pedophile is from the age three to 11. - No, no, no. That's not our conversation. - What do you say, teenage? What is that? - What is that? - Hey, no, no. I guess what I'm saying is that- - I think it's bullshit. I'll be honest. I think it's bullshit. - We only see Drake, right? We only see Drake with women who are legal, right? Now, say like Leonardo DiCaprio, right?

People like, yo, he only dates girls from like 20 to 25. Yeah. And he's like 50. Is that just weird? Is that creepy? Or is that like... No. Here's an important distinction. It's legal. No, but that's what I'm saying. I think that's kind of the same thing with Drake.

Like, we've never heard that Drake dated... Exactly. That's why it's bullshit. I mean, it's a great assault. Like, if you really want to just make something radioactive and assassinate their character, it's a great thing to say because the second you go, I'm not a pedophile, people are like,

I don't know now. You don't even want to defend yourself in the accusation. No, you're right. But this idea that like a guy who's 37 or 80 years can't fuck a 20-year-old girl. Get the fuck out of here. Like at some point, they're women. At 20 years old, they go to war. Let's say 20. Bro, bro, bro, bro. At 18 or 19, they're going to war.

They're driving a drone. Yeah, they got OnlyFans. They got OnlyFans. Like, nope, no, no, dead ass. Dead ass. It's like all these people that are like, oh my God, how dare you have sex with a 21-year-old? Who do you think you jerking off to, weirdo? When you go watch porno, you're not going, well, is this girl 25 years old? Everyone,

of them bitches is fucking 19 or 20 years old. Nah, I only want granny porn for that reason. Yo, in reality, so I'm with you. I'm with you, right? And that's why... What I'm saying is stop. What they're trying to do is move the goalposts. You know what's weird? Underage girls, that's weird. You should be in prison. That's not even like joke around about shit. That's like, if that is even, like, that is jail.

Like, take the nuts away. But 20-year-old girls? What are we talking about here? Like, when Leonardo DiCaprio is banging these 20-year-old girls, it's like, he's not banging 20-year-old girls. He's banging supermodels that happen to be 20. His first thing is supermodel, and they're 20. I'm curious, but do you think it's a little weird? Because I know you saw the video about the grooming stuff. Like, of course, when you just compile every single story and put it back to back to back, it's going to...

They did this shit with the guy who directed Guardians of the Galaxy. And this is why this shit fucked up. You remember the guy? Was that his name? What's the director's name, Miles? Dunn? Yeah, yeah. James Gunn. And it got him kicked out of fucking Marvel. And what they basically did, this is during, like, cancel culture, he had a bunch of, like...

pedophile jokes and he was like making these like dark twisted jokes about like something about like having sex with kids or something like that but they're like obviously fucking jokes and what someone did is they collected all of them from different years in his life and put them on one page and

And when you have 10 different things from different years in your life that are on one page, you're like, oh, that motherfucker is a creep. And they fired his ass. Yeah, so now if you're in a battle with somebody and you can compile all these 10 different things and put it in a battle. So there's two things going on. One is, is it an effective strategy? Incredibly effective. The other thing is, is it indicative of that person having a problem?

Which I'm saying is no. I think it's incredibly effective from Kendrick, but does it make that person a pedophile? No. Is James Gunn a pedophile? No. That's why he's now working. He fucking runs DC and they actually brought him back to do The Last Guardians. You know what's a little odd? Like a lot of these guys who used to be frequent collaborators and used to party with them, they're kind of, they're either same, like even like Rick Ross. I know they're not seeing eye to eye right now, but it's like,

If me and you used to party and have a bunch of girls around us, if later on I'm like, you like kids, that makes me look kind of crazy too. So exactly. It's like, oh, so you was cool with him when everything was going on. It's the same shit with Diddy. It's like...

Nah, nah, nah. We can't just throw Diddy and Drake in the same pot. Now you ready? Now you ready about this? I seen a video today. I was more saying people are quiet about Diddy, but they're loud about Drake. No, no, no. But it's like, y'all been to Diddy parties. I seen a video today that fucked me up a little bit. What was it? Just because it now gets me to think, is there something I don't know? About whom?

Well, not necessarily Drake, but like... So, is your peer Shane? Shane Gillis. Yes, he has a podcast. Hilarious, yes. There's a clip... New show out on Netflix, Tires. Go watch Tires. Oh, yeah, the premiere is on there. There's a 2019... I guess he does podcasts. 2019, him and his guy, who's his co-host, I guess, are on the podcast, and he randomly comes... You know, Aaron already dug it up. Randomly in 2019, he comes out. They're talking about Epstein, then R. Kelly, and he says...

He said, I'm going to just say this right now. In five years, they're getting drink. And like, he kind of like, it's not even like a joke where it's like, he starts to kind of, he's like, yo, that's the word out about this guy.

And that made me a little bit uneasy because I was like... Because the two white guys from rural Pennsylvania might know something about hip-hop that you don't know? No, no, no. This is the thing about narratives. It's like, you know how far you've got to grasp at straws for the two whitest human beings on the planet to tell you something about a hip-hop star that you speak to regularly? Yeah, but I don't know these people's personal lives.

I really wouldn't know. I really wouldn't know what they're into sexually. I wouldn't know. You know, it's so funny. This is hilarious. Anytime white people talk about hip hop, it's stay out of our culture. The second they start calling Drake a pedophile, they're like, yo, they might be honest. They might know some shit we don't know, yo. I'm not saying no.

I'm not, I definitely am not saying I believe it. I think you team OVO, bro. No, I am team OVO. I mean, team XO. So many motherfucking acronyms or whatever. I think you team XO. Yo, yo. TDE. Me personally, me personally. TDE. No, XO too. Me personally, and I think this is probably the dangers of kind of like probably navigating the game like how Drake has done to get to the top, is that

I don't think Drake necessarily is following a, to your point, a high school female basketball player for some weird shit. I don't. What I do think is that Drake knows everything.

how to stay next to the heat. I guarantee he follows speed. He's probably 18 now. But when we start popping off, he's a 16-year-old streamer. He's probably DMing him stuff. You got to realize Drake realizes his lifespan also requires him to be current, staying next to other people who are

affecting culture in that generation. Putting them on. And the only thing that, again, we've never seen a sexual message. Like, it's one thing if he's like, yo. Exactly. Yo, send me a nude. Like, that would be different. You know what I mean? If that's what the...

If the interactions were that, I'd be like, okay, that's crazy. But just because he's going to follow, if a child star gets 30 million followers right now, he's going to follow that person. Yo, you're great. Yo, you're great. Oh, come to one of my shows. Like, I'm pretty sure he's not like, yo, come to the after party and then the Diddy party. But the fact that we're having this discussion is why it's so effective. Has anyone accused him? Has anyone come out and been like? Never. All the women have actually came out to say, yo, when I took a picture with him, like,

Nothing happened. That was the only interaction. Nothing else ever happened. He's too shrewd. Like, I can't... Someone who has navigated the game this well to be where he is, I can't imagine him just fucking up in the fucking DMs or something like that. It's like, get out of here. Now, him having a daughter on the side, if you already got one...

It's possible to have another like to me that even if it's bullshit, it's more believable than this other thing. And by the way, I feel what's happening to Drake is kind of the inevitability of like that quote, quote. And this is why it's like so it's so opposite of what's going on with Kendrick.

It's like the Fresh and Fit thing, where it's like, yo, I'm just fucking a bunch of chicks. Like, if Drake still isn't dating another chick, a new chick every two weeks, this doesn't happen, right? Like, if Drake gets settled down and, like, literally isn't doing the things, which, by the way, help furthers his career. I'm always going to be with a new hot chick. I'm courtside every game. I'm popping out like the biggest artist should.

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With all due respect to the musical genius and talent that is Kendrick, and again, I'm a casual, no one gives a fuck about him. Meaning...

I don't know his hobbies. I don't know his interests. I don't know if he plays hockey with his friends. I don't know if he's in a poker tournament. I don't know anything about Kendrick. Coming from somebody who just did a roast, the most effective way to roast people, like I didn't talk about the comedians almost at all.

Because nobody knows them compared to the athletes who are there. I'm just shooting at the athletes and the famous people there. I wish I knew Kim was there because she's the most famous person in the room. That joke's going to go crazy. Everybody knows every detail about Drake. We know where he vacations. We know what his best friends are. We know if he's had plastic fucking surgery. We know every single thing. That's what I just said because Drake be outside. Kendrick's inside. It's not that people don't care. It's just that he doesn't give people anything to go off of.

He's a private person. My whole point was that Drake's lifestyle has created this. Right? Like, no one is at this point. Like, Rihanna disappeared. Sure, sure. Jay-Z at this point was, like, so secluded. Drake is still living like the 25-year-old I just got famous. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The separation that I would say is Kendrick is known for his music and only his music. Mm-hmm.

Drake is known for the personality and celebrity that is Drake. Yes. And his music. And the personality and celebrity that is Drake allows you to take so many more shots in this battle. There's so much more information that's out there. Drake got to explain to us shit about Kendrick that he's making fun of.

Yeah. Like, I kind of lost interest in the battle because, like, I don't know enough about Kendrick. Like, I'm like, I think he's very talented. Wait, they're not living together? Where do they even live? He has a wife? He has a kid? Like, what is going on? To your point. Who's Dave Free? I never. I don't even know the people that you're making fun of him for. You got to give me a Wikipedia of this guy before you battle him? Well, here's the thing, too, though.

I argue, so if we're looking at levels of popularity, I would have Kendrick. In music, they're close. Get out of here. No, music. Music-wise, they're close. You're too close. No, no, no. That's his point. He's saying in music. No, no, no. In music, they're close. Just in the world, they're not. You're saying in terms of music popularity or in the music world? No, music popularity. Listen. Define popularity. Well, I would do that on consumption.

So if Drake drops... Do you think Drake and Kendrick have been consumed the same amount? In close amounts. Drake's still more popular, but Kendrick was never that far behind. I don't think it's in the same stratosphere.

I mean, the numbers are there. The numbers are there. But Drake drops way more, so of course he's going to stream a lot higher. I don't think Kendrick can do the tour that Drake has done internationally. I don't think Kendrick has an international draw like Drake does. I don't even think it's close. Okay, well, you answer this question now. But real quick, let's just address that, because what you're talking about is popularity, right? No, I was saying music. In music consumption, when Kendrick drops an album and Drake drops an album,

If it's 100 people that are going to go check out Drake, 75 to 80 will also check out Kendrick. And that's just the reality of just music. Well, let's get data on this. I'm going to be honest with you. Kendrick Lamar...

He is the second most consumed person. We can't act like this is some bum. You know, Drake is wildly more popular. And by the way, Drake knew this coming into it. You have more to lose than to gain. So it seemed close. So Kendrick outsold Drake in the last tour. And then Drake's most recent tour outsold Kendrick.

So it seems like it's the two of them going back and forth. But he said Drake outsold Kendrick Lamar in just 30 of the 72 shows he did this year. Yeah, but then the year before that, Kendrick outsold Drake. So this tour is huge for Drake. So the point is, he's saying Drake is bigger, but it's not a crazy gap, which seems to stand by every metric. Just only within music. This grossed $129 million, and I think Kendrick's was $110 million.

So it was relatively close. That's way closer than I thought. When Drake comes to New York, well, shit, he's been on a tour run. He did New York venues probably about six, seven times. And Kendrick did about three or four. Right? Again, definitely way more. It's twice as much. Well, we're still in the same punching league. You get what I mean? Yeah. Twice as much as not to me. Compared to other acts in hip hop,

Yes, you're sizably bigger than me, but I'm still in the same realm. I'm still in that same realm, which matters. That's what's going to force Drake to respond, right? Right. Hey, you have literally the number two guy calling you out. Now, I do agree with you to some point where he didn't necessarily have to drop a standalone diss song.

He could have just said, hey, I'm going to wait. Just like how you dropped a diss to me on a hit song like that. Yeah. Next time I'm going to DJ Khaled. So I'm going to diss the shit out of you. Exactly. Right. I don't think that would work. It only benefits him. It only benefits Kenny. Because Drake, people say Drake took the L with Pusha because he didn't respond.

If Kendrick made a whole song, a six and a half minute song. No, you would have to do that. Like That was not that. Like That was a feature. No, no, I know. But then Kendrick dropped. No, Kendrick wouldn't drop that to Drake. Oh, you're talking about... Yeah, yeah. So you don't think Drake should have dropped at all, responded to Like That at all? That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he should have done it

In a song, not given Kendrick. He should have gone verse to verse. But he did. He did push up and he shot at everybody. He sang. It wasn't just the Drake. Yeah, but it's a standalone diss. It's not even meant to be a single. I think this proved to me that Drake is completely done with being, he's completely done with rap battles. He can't do it anymore.

And it's not because of ability, but because of where he is. You see, you know, what's happening now, and I was talking about even the numbers, Kendrick Lamar's numbers, like, he's about to go number one next week with the new song he just dropped at Drake. He's going number one in the country. And

And you're going to give this guy his first number one of his number one solo record of his whole career. Yeah. Because you would engage with him. Two things is happening. Kendrick has never had a number one record. A solo solo. He's never had a number one solo record. And you're saying that he is on the same level as Drake.

You guys are saying that? He's had number one records. It just hasn't been a solo record. But I'm saying, are you making the argument that someone who's never had a number one solo record is on the same level in music popularity as Drake? Is that the argument you guys are standing on tonight? Well, Drake has a handful. I just want to know if we're lying today. Well, Drake has a handful of solo. Are we just going to sit on the couches and lie to each other for funsies? Hold on, hold on. Do we lie for funsies or do we just acknowledge the reality? No, no, no.

what do we do drake drake has a handful of solo records that became number one but not as much as you might think a lot of his are also features or someone else's on the song we have to be realistic this is not like you know this is not big taylor okay what i'm saying is it took drake for kendrick to get his first number one by the way up until hotline think about that it wasn't even a feature but it is it wasn't hotline blake because i think that went number two

Drake never had a number one as a lead artist for a while. Like, I remember when he wrote that long ass paragraph. And at that time, everyone thought not only was he the biggest in the culture, they thought he was one of the biggest in the world. But obviously things change in how... Keep in mind, I'm not talking about the culture. I'm talking about just the world. I think Drake is more accessible. The things that he's rapping about are more accessible internationally than the things Kendrick are rapping about.

And because of that, he'll have more success internationally. And then those numbers will just be bigger. Like if Kendrick is talking about like personal, experiential, cultural trauma that exists in the black community in America, what is some fucking Swedish guy going to listen to that? But you're also using a metric that no one cares about, right? Like you see, like when we report sales and like, you know, as a media page report sales,

We don't care about anything but U.S. sales. There's a global sales, which obviously goes to, it's still money. Like you're still getting paid from that data. But usually it's what happens in the U.S. kind of goes into the rest of the world. Of course, certain artists don't focus on those markets, right? Drake is huge internationally compared to any of these guys by like a landslide. Same with Taylor Swift. Same with all superstars. But the conversation that- You can't name a superstar that's not huge internationally. But the conversation that Drake wants to affect-

is the one that happens usually stateside. That's why he has to compete. What I'm saying is that's the miscalculation, in my opinion. I think that he was yearning for that approval. It's a legacy thing. I think it's insecurity. I think it's like he wanted that validation. No, it's being an MC. Every rapper that's always held that throne of not being the biggest rapper, but being the best rapper, has always...

Not only that's that's one of the things it's like, well, I'm going to trivialize a little bit by saying LeBron in the dunk contest. Like people were saying about Kendrick, we've never seen you in a battle. And every guy who was supposed to the top guy we see the battle tested. Now, Drake is already about tested. Sure, he lost a push of tea, but we've seen him win many others. Right. He could have not he could have ducked this one. But people also are watching to say.

Hey, don't tell me you handled Meek Mill when you knew you could body him. Pusha T, you didn't finish that one. And the guy we really thought could beat you, it's like the Floyd argument when they thought he was ducking certain people. So, yes, that's where the ego comes in, but the MC comes in as well. Let's go toe-to-toe. Now, if I'm Drake, and I think this goes back to the point I was saying earlier, he no longer could do these because what we've realized in this battle is that

I told people that Drake was an underdog and that was asinine for a lot of people. They're like, yo, he's the most popular rapper. And I'm like, let me tell you this. There is a group of people that have came together. These are the neutrals that they've came together and they're tired of the King reigning. They came to see a beheaded. They've came to see. This is what humans do. Humans do not like. Let me just get this point out.

Humans oftentimes resent success. It happened with Michael Jordan. We all saw it. I saw it as a Knicks fan. I was like, fuck Michael Jordan. He was beating my team all the time. He's not as good as Magic Johnson. He's not as good as Larry Bird. I wasn't even fucking alive with a Magic Larry playing. I just needed somebody else. People said this about Michael Jackson. They're like, no, Prince. This, to me, is closest to Michael Jackson and Prince, in my opinion. Prince was an incredibly talented, amazing musician, played all the instruments, and

He is nowhere near Michael Jackson in terms of his success as an artist, but people needed an alternative. This is what happens when Karl Malone won the MVP. It was just exhaustion of Jordan being so great and so amazing. So what you need is you basically have this other person that you turn to. That's not to say that Karl wasn't amazing. It's not to say that...

Prince was amazing. It's not to say that Kendrick isn't one of the most prolific artists that's ever existed. It's not discrediting them all. But in terms of where Drake is in the world, people are going to look in other directions because humans naturally, we resent the success. And I think we inflate sometimes other people that are not...

Maybe we over inflate some people because of that resentment for the success. - Well, that's why I got led to this next point, which I've continually said. I said, listen, the rules aren't the same for both artists. When Kendrick drops "Like That," "Like That" was a response to a song called "First Versus Shooter." He drops "Like That," Drake has never ducked a battle. He's always been there, right?

Everyone's like, it's been like two weeks. Drake didn't say anything. Everyone says he's scared. That's what I'm saying, changing the rules. Okay, Drake drops. It's two weeks now. We're waiting for Kendrick. Yo, chill out. Yo, he just takes a while to cook. Like what people think about both artists doing the same thing. Just taking time to create music. I thought Kendrick was ducking and I was annoyed at Kendrick and I'm a Drake hater, but I'm also not like a Kendrick slurper. But also look at Kendrick.

put blatant lies on some of the records. Didn't Drake too? Yes. Drake started it. Yeah, we got to be honest. That's the other thing that's biased. I'm not sure if Drake started it. The K-Free shit? Yeah, that came afterwards. That came after the whole You Have a Kid.

Oh, okay. So what was the first? No, push-ups, he takes a subtle jab. Oh, yeah, Whitney and the bodyguard. Whitney and the bodyguard. No, that's a playoff words. Come on, bro. Stop it. No, no, no. I didn't know you compromised. No, no, no. Oh, behold. I really didn't know you compromised. Oh, behold. But Day Free's not a bodyguard. He wanted to just, that's what Drake does. When Drake's getting at an opponent, he always, I think people figured it out by now.

Hey, you're going to get at my love interest. And I think he instantly went there. This is exactly what he did to Pusha T when Pusha T revealed that he had a son. He said, listen, it's something ring like Virginia. That was again before. That was his wife. That was again before. But he didn't mention anything messy like, yo.

your general manager is fucking your wife. I mean, define messy. He's talking about someone's... No, no, no. Both of them kept their wives... He didn't make an allegation at that point. That's what I'm trying to say. He just mentioned the name. This is what we said earlier off. We were talking about the roast and mentioning Tom Brady's kids and nobody mentioned his kids because these are people that are off camera. When you take people that are off camera, they're out of the public... Push Kendrick, keep their wives out of it. They don't put them in the public. You put their name in there.

Don't play. Don't be like, whoa, where is this coming from? How dare you speak on my family? But you just you mentioned my family's name in a battle. You mentioned my family's name negatively. It's not positive. You're not saying, hey, all respect to her. I just don't like you. And mention it is innocence. You mentioned the civilians. Once you mention civilians, you open it up. You can't be upset when you're civilian. I agree. And that's why I think I think Drake coming out of the push a team battle. I think he said to himself.

I wasn't comfortable with the fact that my family got exposed and the fact that I had a kid got exposed. And my response would have went somewhere else. So I'm going to bow out of this one. And I think him coming in, if you listen to the energy on pushups,

He even says at the end, which even though it's a play on words, he's like, I'm trying to keep it PG, but he's basically almost hinting like, I'm down to really get kind of in the mud with you before I wasn't with Pusha T. The only thing is, I don't think there's ever a response for someone saying, you fuckheads. It's either two things.

If you don't ignore it, it's an elephant in the room. If you respond to it, they're like, wait, about that. Then they come up with all these loose narratives. Let's do this. You're right. I'll concede that point. I'll say that. Yeah, it's fucked up. You can paint that narrative. Let's say all allegations are false on both sides. Who's winning this battle? It's still Kendrick.

No. Like that is bonkers. No, no. No. I do like this Not Like Us record. Yeah, Not Like Us, I mean. I like this record, but I'm going to be honest with you.

The majority of this battle before we got to this was Kendrick Lamar sitting back and saying, I'm going to pick you part as a man. The very fabric of what you portray to be. You're a whole fraud. You've stolen culture. You're a bad parent. You've made the same mistakes and you won't live up to responsibility.

These are things that like he was almost picking at the fabric of Drake and you're looking at him like, damn, maybe this guy's a fraud. So now if it's just completely lies that you were. Can't like Drake anymore, man. I really liked him because he was a good dad. That's why I got into Drake. He was such a good father. He was a family man. That's why I've been listening to him for 20 years. To me, that's a corny angle. What a great family man he is. He fucks bitches. Are you still fucking bitches?

bitches and writing bars about it? Do you still go on the yacht in Turks? I'll tell you this, though. It's aspirational living. Culturally, and this is what Kendrick has on his side. I know you're not going to say culturally, that's what they were into. No, no, no. Yo,

hey as soon as he invoked like yo check this out this is what's authentic to hip-hop and this guy i'm gonna paint him as yo he ran into future when he need the clubs he ran into this guy when he needed lingo he ran into this guy that was crazy yeah that that then will make a because hip-hop is still about authenticity to a certain extent and i think that's where kendrick also you know drake you know someone said this and i agree with him drake probably should have kept

Yeah, I'm going to just give you hit songs the whole way. Let me not try to get into this whole... Hip-hop is not about authenticity anymore. Hip-hop is who's the best liar. Yes. It's not really...

Who's the authentic one? Hey, why most people are rocking. NBA Youngboy is rapping about killing people while he lives in a mountain. Get the fuck out of here about authenticity. Like, what are we talking about here? But they still feel like that's authentic to a lifestyle that he subscribes to because when he came in the game, he had a suspended 10-year sentence for shooting somebody in the neck. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, this is the type of guy that would do that, right? Authenticity still matters. And I'm telling you,

The reason why Kendrick is just like an impossible opponent, unless you prove that all this pro-black shit he's been doing is fake and fraud. Like, you know what I mean? Even then, nobody cares. Nah, they would. Nah, they would. They would instantly tell you. That's the only way if like, if you had a recording of him saying, man, fuck all this Black Lives Matter shit and all these niggas getting killed by cops. I'm just trying to get a song on. Like, I'm telling you. Where are you going to get that recording though? Sure.

I think if he didn't plant the suitcase, I don't know. If he didn't expose it himself on Steppers about him sleeping with white women, if Drake was the one to expose that, Drake would have won. Do you think that would have been? Oh, man, that would have been good. That alone would have been the dagger that... Do you think Kendrick dropped that? No, and at some point, I'm going to...

I'm going to go at it with this guy. So I need to clean out the closet. Let me get out in front of it. Could be. Or he just want to hit 4-4-4. Not like us is the song of the summer. L.A. is back. I don't listen to Joe Rogan anymore. We should all move there. Trying to strike a chord and it's probably a minor is the it's a much more salacious thing. But is that just in terms of like that line is going to stand out? Is that a world tour, your girls tour? That's this for this battle.

It's a fucking crazy boy. Listen, I have no idea how these songs were created, even though I know there was a pattern of... I'm leading you guys to something in terms of Kendrick, but I wonder if he had this song in the tuck the whole time. For years. Like, this song is a bop.

I'm telling you. Here's what's crazy. He mentions Family Matters in the song. So either... But you could also switch out like a line. It leads you to believe either Drake does have the leak and he got Family Matters early or that motherfucker can microwave. DJ Head is wrong. This motherfucker can microwave food. Fantastic. I'm going to be honest with you. He played a mental game with Drake, a mental game of chess where he convinced Drake

yo, all them songs like push-ups where you're just popping shit, it's not going to work. You're going to have to get cerebral with me. I'm going to do Meet the Grams and I'm going to give like these, nigga, what sound like Jigsaw on the record? Yo, really need this, really need that. Hey, are you ready now to play Have You Ever? I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing? And then all of a sudden when I'm thinking, all right, cool, like,

I'm ready to put my thinking hat on for the next joint. He's like, fuck that. We back in the club. I'm like, what? And the joint is fire. It's brilliant. Yeah. It's fire. He's prolific. And he's been since 2014, right? Do you feel like this started with Control? These two have never really gotten along. From Control, if you ask me,

Kendrick always wanted to destroy Drake. I think he doesn't like what he represents. And that's why I say the cultural part matters. Like there is a ilk of people like Kendrick that they believe he is the true, you know, not watered down MC that has gotten his proper flowers to a certain extent. And then they look at Drake to say, oh, this guy used us.

he's a pop star parading around as a rapper. And I think Drake's ego is like, motherfucker, I'm going to show you I'm a rapper. I'm going to show you I'm a rapper. I literally said this. You guys disagree with you. It's the insecurity. He wanted to validate himself. That's what being a rapper is. I need to prove to you guys. I need to show you guys. That's what being a rapper and an MC is. Being the best. You have to be the best.

Like, you got it. Like, another Cool J went at it with cannabis. Hip-hop's always been that. If you have that rapper gene, like, you're going to engage in some of these vibes. That's how fuck rappers. If another comic remotely in the same stratosphere as you started taking shots, fuck you. It's over. It's over. Jay-Z didn't have to call out Nas on TakeOver. Nas' career was already on the downturn, but...

He wanted that number one spot. And people wouldn't give him that spot because he felt Nas rap better. So he's like, nah, I'm a body. Side note, this is what I've always loved about Kendrick. Even if I didn't... The music wasn't for me. Like, Mr. Morales ain't for me. But...

But Control, when he stepped in the booth and was like, I want the crown openly. All you guys, I love you. I'll kill you if I need to. I was like, I fuck with that energy. I just fuck with that energy all the way. So we were all, I think, waiting on this for 10 years. And I think Kendrick was- Hey, let's talk about the race factor in all this. Because I think- I thought I was like-

Drake is getting an unfair, like it's fucked up what they're doing to him because he helps so many artists like become bigger, gave them their first number ones, gave them careers. And now he's incredibly looked at. And now he's looked at like, oh, he just used all these people for his advantage. Incredibly whack. And also this is, you know, they always say like. But I don't, sorry to interrupt you. It don't matter because with everything, first of all, nothing gets changed here. All the Kendrick fans are,

the Drake haters, they get satisfied by what Kendrick's done. And then all the Drake fans, they either love what Drake did or they go, uh, he lied. So it doesn't count. Nobody moves at all. Everybody just wants whatever they feel to be valid. I know you said everybody just wants whatever they feel to be validated. It's no different than politics and no different than we have the

feeling already. Everybody on the West Coast right now, where it's been a minute since the West Coast really had like a real... I don't want to say that Kendrick wasn't a top guy, but it's been a while since the West Coast has dominated rap in some sort of way. Everybody's fucking so excited by this. They're like, yo, we're back on top. We fucking got this. We're the baddest motherfuckers. So their egos are satisfied. So...

Obviously, there's frustration, I'm sure, with Drake fans. Like, man, we really want to just clobber them and we didn't get this dub. But I don't think everybody just leaves Drake as a Drake fan. They've built too long. I don't think everybody, but you said it's like politics and swing voters is what decides the winner. Well said. And right now... But here's the thing that people don't realize about politics. Swing voters still only vote based on their identity. That identity hasn't really been swung. It's just been moved from side to side. So, for example...

The swing voter, like that middle America voter, that guy, if the Republican is saying we're opening the factory and the Democrats saying we're closing the factory, they swing Republican. If the Democrat is saying we're opening the factory, the Republicans say we're closing, they go Democrat. What I'm saying is they're not real swing. Nobody's going to change sides in this battle. You just go towards whatever your identity wants. And with those swing voters, as they call them, their identity does not change whatsoever.

They just go to whoever is going to fulfill their identity. The same thing happens in these bands. We're just saying that like now, if somebody was going for that top spot, I'm the best. So I think Kendrick has swayed people to give him that crown. He got the crown right now. If both of them dropped an album this year, I think Kendrick would also. Yeah.

That's what's crazy. Without some first. But I don't think it's, I don't think it's over. I don't think it's over. Consumption right now is like, people want to see Kendrick and it's going to be interesting when he does. They want to see him have the run with him finally having the crown. Right. And, and Drake fans are not leaving. Like, you know what I mean? Like Drake fans, like he's still going to be the guy. And that's why I think Drake should just be like,

He should look at this and be like, wait, I fucked up in giving this guy his first solo number one. And so many people are now on his side. I hate saying shit and it takes y'all an hour to say it. I really hate saying shit. Is that what's happening now? I say shit and you guys go, nah. And then an hour later you just say it and I'm supposed to go, oh, you got a good point? No one actually discounted that. We're saying that wasn't the...

What I'm saying is Drake still gave him a number one. It's still a feature. Oh, yeah, no, of course. It's a feature, bro. No, no, of course. You know what I mean? If your number one comes off the diss battle from the biggest guy, it's a feature. No, no, I'm still acknowledging that. What I was always saying is that this guy was always either 1A or 2. He's phenomenal. Like, again, that's why there's two different conversations. One is, like, is this guy, like, musically prolific? Of course. He's amazing at making music. He's amazing at rap. Like...

I don't even think Drake would even utter the words, he's bad at this. I think the reason the fact that he's even beefing with him is because he goes, this guy's awesome at this. I respect that. And I want people to know that I'm more awesome. That's what he's... Yeah, no, of course. But to me, that's that insecurity. It's like, if he just knows he's more awesome and he has the validation of the people coming out to the shows, the fan base, the ticket sales, literally every metric except...

the fans of the other guy, which you'll never sway anyway. The fans of the other guy are never going to be swayed. What I'm saying is it's a misstep based on his, what I perceive as, and we all have this as performers, we're like, I just want to win everybody over. What if these people who don't like me... I think you look at it like a comic, but that's not what... Like in hip-hop, it's a really contact...

adversarial sport. What I'm saying is you could do it without dedicating the whole song, which we agreed earlier, which is you just put out a banger that got a little few bars to Kendrick and then you make him put out the whole song first. By you putting out the whole song first, I think it gives Kendrick... I always thought that. I always thought him going first. But again, here's the thing too.

Kendrick has had the patience of waiting 10 years. And Drake, like, you know, Drake told me something, like, because he just went on, like, an 84-city tour. He dropped three albums, went on 84. Like, the dude is exhausted. Yeah. Right? Before he could go on vacation, this motherfucker dissed him. He wants to get this over with now. He just wants to do it now. He's like, all right, you know what? Fuck it, I'm going to lock it. I'm going to get this done. And Kendrick has the advantage of...

I could just play the whack-a-mole thing and be like, all right, well, I'll be back later. Yeah. You know? And I think Drake cooked up something, but hoping to hear what Kendrick was going to come with. And it was clear Kendrick wasn't going to drop again. And he's just like...

yo, what do I really got to do to make this guy rap? Like, you know, he's kind of posting on the gram like, yo, what's up? Any day now. And he's like, fuck it. I guess I have to start it off. However, I think that played into Kendrick's strategy because he was counterpunching. Like, yo, I'm counterpunching. It looks thirsty almost. Okay, you're trying to hit me with the hit song? With push-ups? Okay, bet. Let me give you this layered song about how I'm about to just dissect everything you got going on. Then Drake is like,

okay, all right, let me try to play your game a little bit and let me kind of cycle. And, oh, you're obsessed with these rumors because, oh, you were touched as a child. I remember you said that on your song and he's now doing that. And Kendrick's like, psych, I got a club hit too, motherfucker. So strategically, Kendrick played it. Oh, strategically. Oh, yeah. He is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Drake is a top tier chess player. Yeah, also telling Drake. Those little tidbits, yo, he has, I have the van that's the replica, I guess it's a replica, of that van that was on your first album cover. I crushed it in my video. Oh, okay, the place you shouted out for my city, New Ho King, I'm in there just chilling, showing you that I'm the boss of this shit. You know what I mean? Like, he's doing all these things against, like, I always said,

Thank God that Meek Mill was so fucking stupid because that nigga was just playing like, yo, he was playing like bingo. Like Drake was just running circles around him. But he's going at a guy who's just a master chess player that you can't even see his moves anywhere else. Like someone actually said this. They said, hey, listen.

Drake may have got a little bit of a big head. No, did he? Because of the win over Meek. And one of those things where it's just that Meek just madly and badly misplayed his head. Apparently he was like heavily on drugs at that time. Yeah, but think about this, right? Pusha T had Drake fall back with a rumor or not rumor, a confirmation of a child. But what's the biggest like expose you could have had of a rapper to that time?

it would have been, "You don't write your rhymes." Except you know how he fumbled it? The nigga tweeted it out three weeks before he made a song about it. It's like, if he revealed that on a song out of the blue,

motherfucker, you don't write your rhymes. And we're like, huh? What are you talking about? Then just play the reference tracks. We might look at that differently. And the song sucked. Yeah, the song sucked. All right, that's a prerequisite. Become a little bit of a rapper. Yeah, yeah. You got to keep this real. Did Drake feed him that information about the daughter? Because he's claiming that he fed him the information. I don't think he did. I think he's just claiming what the internet is saying. The objective, heck,

I do believe the daughter thing. I don't believe the other things. Oh, I didn't even know that that was up for debate. I thought it was like fact that he fed the information. No. No, no, no, no. That's interesting. I think the other thing... Your picture in the back of some fuzzy girl in the video saying, oh, this happens to be the same girl. No, no. I think he did feed that because I could tell they were recently... I could tell they were trying to recently feed like...

Yo, the other street dudes that usually hold down OVO in Toronto, they're getting tired of him. He hasn't been feeding the wolves. And I saw him randomly just beefing. They're like, fuck OVO. Yeah, the tide has changed now. What's up? Yo, you better put some money in the books. And I'm like, OK, you're trying to get them to feed into an angle. And I think I even said to Drake, I said, I said, fuck.

Those are boys still, man. Like, I'm not buying that shit. The one thing I don't think that was staged was I do believe that his father probably went on vacation with some girl and the suitcase got stolen. I do think so. Like, because that doesn't... Why would you have prescriptions in your name and shit like that? Like, you know what I mean? If you're trying to stage... Like, I think he did a good job on Family Matters to...

To own it, to be like, hey, well, the main back glove was in there because of me and blah, blah. That doesn't really make sense. I didn't even ask him about that, though. So, I don't know. But then why did Kendrick remove the cover art?

Well, I think it only got removed on Apple, I think. Well, yeah, you can't upload to DSPs like an actual medical script. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, the guy's name and address is on it. I still don't believe Drake fed him that because he would have said it right away. Yeah. Right away. He'd have been like, hey, dummy, we fed you this information instead of being like, oh, I got a daughter. Somebody nobody told me. I believe he did because that is so random.

If Kendrick had, if he said it so confidently, he must have had it from some really reliable source that I feel that, you know what all these guys are doing, right? Like,

They're sending... They're finding out information. How do they find out information on one another? This is kind of fun. Well, Pusha T said it. Pusha T said, everybody thinks that Kanye told me. No. 40 said 40. 40 was talking to a girl. They're all smashing the same girls. What'd I say? They're all smashing the same girls. There's a thousand girls that just get dicked down by all famous people. I found out that Metro Boomin hated Drake before it was universally known. I found that out because...

A chick, he smashed in L.A., I smashed in L.A. And, you know, we're all talking and, you know, nothing, a girl always wants to impress you by flexing the other popping guy she's fucked with. And they always just tell every detail. So I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, yeah, he hates the fuck out of Drake. I'm like, oh, shit. But then the same thing kind of came up again where people heard. Did you find out why? I still don't know why. I just know that he doesn't fuck with me. How do you know they're not using you?

How do you know the girls aren't sent to smash you, pillow talk with you? Have you ever thought that academics is working for me? No, no, no. Because me and Metro don't get along. Me and Metro don't get along. But what I'm saying is you could be doing stuff that you don't even realize that you're doing. Oh, no, no, no. That probably is. This is a really convoluted game, which I realize. I think Future and Drake, they're beefing over women.

I think that's a really simple thing to kind of like. Why are they beefing over women? I'm like so like, this is such a confusing notion that guys would beef over women that they're not even trying to wife.

I mean, it's not about the women. It's about the respect. His power and ego, though. I think they're saying things to these women, and then the women are saying stuff, relaying it back to the guys. So it's like, oh, fuck with him. So it's not that we fucked him, girl. It's like, no, no, no. I know you don't like me because this girl told me. Like a random girl that's supposed to... I don't know if she fucked Future, but she being around him, when I was trying to figure out, I'm like, yo...

Why haven't Future and Drake been around each other? Like a girl who's like get invited to these little parties that they do. And, you know, they're around like fly on the wall type shit. While some of these conversations was like Future, like Future was super pissed off that Drake did an album with 21 Savage. Oh, really? Yeah. Why? Because they beef like crazy? That's why I was a little confused because like he did an album with you. But according to the person who I got it from, they were like, hey, he felt that Drake used him.

at that time to have that cultural equity within the clubs in Atlanta, because... And then Future used him to have the cultural equity within the masses, and then everybody mutually benefits. If anybody, Future benefited more. But for them, they feel like, well, if you're going to come back to Atlanta...

and do it with another rapper, it should be me. That's what I've heard. But there's probably like a bunch of nuances. I'm like, so. It's like high school. I'm being honest. It's really like high school. Like all of this shit is like high school. Because most people who want to be famous are insecure, myself included. I'm not going to act like, you know, most of us try to work on it, but some don't. And then, especially I think if you're famous young, there's no need to work on yourself. And there's some thought that, hey, some people just,

Like, the dude's fucking flying around this bitch with a jumbo jet and got a $400 million contract while these guys, they get $15 million, which is, by the way, you know, you know what's funny? Watching Drake and Rick Ross argue about money. And Drake says to him, yo. Yeah, house looks like a slice of cheese. Yeah, yeah. And he says, like, he being Brett Barish's bitch. Like.

Like, basically, that's the guy who owns the spirits. Ah, that Bel Air is part of it. And if you look at Ross, like, Ross will be dissing everybody in the world with the bottles in his hand. Oh, he's always promoting. He's funny, dude. Rick Ross is genuinely funny. That was one of the times I thought Drake was going on script. I think he was losing what the people cared about. Like, we like funny shit. Yeah, and we're not going to beat Rick on funny. Yeah, Rick saying white boy and B.B.O. Drisky. I'm sorry. Phenomenal.

and Drake had that misstep with the whole texting his mom thing like that was corny what was that like he screenshot it oh mom Rick is being racist or whatever like even though it probably wasn't a real Texas mom but the fact that he tried to put it out that way that was real calling a guy racist yeah

calling a guy racist that is going to use the fact that you're not in the culture and you're a white boy you're kind of proving it with this you know what I mean huge mister that's a white guy I was like that is kind of racist kind of related to that the most of anything that was the best diss I've ever seen I think Drake should just you know

What's the next move? What is the next move for Drake? Hit song is way out of this. Now, hit song meaning about Kendrick or just about something else? Give him three lines here or there. Still a bitch. A nice for what? A God's plan. Yeah, I'm still bigger than you. Hey, listen, you're the liar that, you know, I gave you a couple of weeks, but that's it. Now, here's the problem. You put out, you try to put out the hit song. You try to do it.

and then it flops or doesn't work, that's bad. That's bad. Yeah, but you know what Drake does best? Do a collab.

Go to one of the guys, which is, by the way, this is one of the most interesting parts I've been looking at. Who still stands with Drake? Whose truth resides, exactly. Like, I've seen people, I've seen a lot of artists who you could tell, and that's what I was saying before, when you cut me off, I was saying, with every, like, billionaire, they have this story of you fucked over, like, 10 people. Or you had to, right? I think Drake, what we're watching now, especially the silence, right?

is a lot of people who not necessarily fucked over, but they might feel ever so slighted. Y'all remember when I just came in a game and you hopped on my song and then I got a little cool and I said, yo, could I, could you give me another verse? And you left me on red motherfucker.

But he already put you on. This is where it's like... No, because... We're also speculating. In music, it's more of these genuine relationships, not where you're only fucking with me when it's convenient. Those people become a little bit salty. Like, yeah, I'm salty at you that...

They feel essentially used even though it's really mutual. It's not even mutual. If you're an up-and-coming artist and then the biggest artist alive does a song with you, the only person that benefits from that is the up-and-coming artist. Let me say this. Roddy Ricch had a song with Drake. It got leaked. It's called In The Cut. The real song never came out. Roddy Ricch, obviously, when he dropped the box, was one of the most popular artists on the earth.

afterwards subsequently his career kind of cooled down a bit he just had a song with Drake that just didn't come out though I think he might feel a way I think he might you know not like salty but it's just like you know okay I'm not in the same space I was when we cut that record and that got leaked and didn't come out maybe he don't want to do another record

Now when I see Kendrick going at you, I'm a little bit more pro-Kendrick. He's now your West Coast croatee. You know what I mean? So I think Drake is watching, and we can't really see any artists standing with Drake. 21 Savage, right? Just brought him on tour in the 7th and 3rd. Of course, 21 fucks with Drake, but he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's from Atlanta.

You can't go against Future. Future is king in Atlanta. You know what I mean? I remember doing an interview with 21 and he told me, he said, yo, in Atlanta, Future is bigger than Drake. Like the people of Atlanta care more about Future than Drake. Right? So he can't go against Future. And then his man is also Metro. So he's like noticeably absent and quiet. And Drake is kind of out here fighting by himself. The second thing we've also not seen during the meat mill thing, when all that was going on,

Yo, Drake was popping up in Houston clubs, got bitches shaking their ass to back to back. It looked like he was the culture. Like he was what people were liking outside. And I'm watching now, look like Drake is stuck in the booth. And even though we haven't seen Kendrick, his music seems to be outside. Everybody's dancing to the song like,

I don't think he's stuck in the booth. I think it looks at least Pierce. He's trying to keep the women on his side. Like he's popping up at Nikki shows. He's popping up at a sexy red shows, like not doing the beef.

Yeah, recently he was on tour with Nicki. Not on tour, but he did a few different dates with Nicki. That's after he dropped push-ups. Shit got to another... Not since this next level. That's when he's winning. When I'm winning, I'm outside. It's a good time when you win it. It's a real good time when you win it. Yeah. It's just odd how no one is speaking up for Drake. If I'm Drake, right? And I built...

I built the way I orchestrated my career is instead of, and there are some artists that have done this, trying to shut down every new artist that comes out out of fear that they're going to take them over, like literally trying to like squash and silence careers instead going, I'm gonna give you your first hit. I'm gonna give you your first hit so that when you blow up, you remember me, we can continue to work together. And you'll always remember that, you know, we built something good and I'm gonna put you on. And, um,

Maybe he really likes putting people on. Maybe he's I mean, like I know there's look, Joe Rogan likes putting on new talent. He's done it with so many of us. He enjoys it. He doesn't ask for nothing back. He literally just enjoys putting on people who are nice. So maybe there's a part of Drake like that. And he's done it with so many people. Now, when Joe's going through anything, he got a lot of motherfuckers like me that are ready to start swinging.

Because we know how important he was. Same thing with Charlotte. Charlotte going through anything, I'm riding with Charlotte until the end of times. So it's like, if there's anything that affects any of those guys, we're riding.

If I'm Drake right now, I would be kind of hurt that I put all these fucking people on, did all these songs with these people who are really, you could say, oh, they're popping. They were no names in terms of international play before he puts them on. Probably has made them through that millions and millions of dollars. Right. I'm very vocal about the credit, you know, who I give credit to the people who put me on. Very vocal. Right. Right.

I'm sure those people in some way must feel if they're like reasonable human beings. And then nobody talking, nobody speaking up. I'd be tight, bro. Well, they don't want to go against the other side. And also this is what the other side do. But that's well, well, now you play in politics. Well, here's the thing, too. I think there's a lot of people in the industry that resent that motherfucker. But beyond that, they have looked at Drake and they have really, really.

Maybe seen a little bit behind the curtain and they're respected less now. What does that mean? There was a time when they felt that he was the instant I get on a verse is going crazy It's gonna fetch it like I think now people look at him and be like well What is Drake if he doesn't have a yachty next to him or if he doesn't he's not riding this wave they don't look at him as Untouchable anymore

Do you think it... I'm playing devil's advocate because, again, I'm the Drake hater on the team. Do you think it says something that none of those guys will go to Beth? Because there's nothing anybody could say about you to make me go, I believe you, I'm going to stay quiet. I'll die for this guy. You'll die for... But that's the thing. But that's the telling. Is it not telling? I don't...

I'm actually asking you, do you think it's telling that nobody's coming? Do you think that says something about Drake more than the people? You see what I'm saying? Nobody. Like, is every one of these guys shitty? You see what I'm saying? I mean, in this business, you get people who are incredibly desperate for fame and they're incredibly in our business, too. And they're willing to do like I just had a buddy who who said that they weren't going to do something or they were going to cancel something. I'm gonna try to be vague here.

And they were going to cancel something because doing it was getting them a lot of hate. And that thing that they were going to do is with somebody who really, I mean, kind of put them on and give them opportunities, et cetera. But just because they were worried about their career and what was going on with them, they're like, I got to cancel it.

So people are going to prioritize themselves first. But I hear the point you're making, which is like, oh shit, maybe our perception is that he's so benevolent, he's helping all these guys when maybe they don't really see it that way. Is that what you guys are saying? Yeah, like zero people are coming. There should be one person, I would think.

Now, granted, I think you were first to support Rogan and that helped open up. I was supposed to actually do, after his controversy happened, I was supposed to do the pod that Monday, which was crazy, but like never crossed my mind to not do it. I was like, man, you gotta, this guy's helped out Schultz. Schultz has helped out you. He's offering you this platform. You do this fucking podcast. There's no question about it. There's no one doing that for Drake. Zero people.

And again, I am biased. And I don't know if he's a bad guy. So maybe I shouldn't present this. All these guys are industry friends. Like all that twin shit, like they're not really friends. Is there one human being, just one human being who's like, yeah, this is a good guy. I'm going to vouch for him. But it's not them vouching as a good guy. They would have to go again. Birdman is the only guy defending you.

What's going on? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. The industry is against all of these guys? This is a great point. If you're industry friends and the industry is against him, then you're going to side with the industry because you see your security, safety, and longevity within the industry. Yeah.

It just exposes that these friendships and my twin, my dog. Metro said it earlier. Everyone has to pick a side. If you pick Drake's side, you almost have to hope that he survives it. Obviously, he'll survive, but he'll survive for Drake. Will Drake still have that ability to help you because now you're making an enemy of the weekend?

You're making an enemy of Metro Boomin, Future, all of these guys who, there's much more that's not even, that's not present. Like, there's a whole faction. This is why, like, being able to have your own audience and create your own shit, like, not feeling so dependent is so important. We can go to war for Joe. We can go to war for Charlotte. We can go to war for any of the people that we really care about, right? Yeah.

because we're not dependent on the industry. The second you are dependent, the second, oh, fuck, man, the only hit I ever had was with Metro. And if I say this, Metro not gonna feed me any more beats. And then what if I just bought a house and then my kids in private school and shit, I won't be able to pay. All right, let me just be quiet. Yeah, you have, you're shackled by,

by your ties to the industry in that regard. I'm still wondering, though, what the fuck did he do to all these guys? That's what I'm trying to ask. How don't you know this shit? Could you speculate? Well, we've just heard bullshit reasons. Reasons that are just very light on the surface. Yeah, like...

Things like that. I mean, Rick Ross on his song, he said, yo, it's because you sent a cease and desist. But like, the guy you're mad at, French is still following Drake. There's a deeper issue, and I've seen Metro allude to it. He said, stop acting like the reason we fell out is because of a girl. You didn't fuck my girl. I'll spare you. He said, I'll spare us both, to be fair, because he was going to look bad, too. To be fair to Drake. Metro, whatever the reason was going to be, he said, the reason I'm not telling you is to make both of us look bad.

Did he say that? No, no, no. Yeah, he said that. He said, I'll spare both of us. But he says, you look much worse if I tell what it is, but I'll spare both of us. Yeah, okay. I read it as if like, oh, if I say what happened, I'm going to be embarrassed, but you're going to look like the bad guy.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think what we're all trying to say here is it would make Drake look way worse, which is why Drake won't come out with it. He still looks stupid. Yeah. Metro will still look, he'll have some sort of negative feeling about it, but not as bad as potentially Drake.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe this has happened time and time again, and enough people have been affected that nobody's coming out. I didn't even ask Drake. I was like, yo. Yeah, what he's... I mean, I don't know. It's your guy's business. I don't... Well, I mean, and I don't think he's gonna... This is probably... Again, the mere fact that we've gotten two albums, a bunch of diss songs, and none of these guys have said, you did A, B, C, and D. Yeah. Like, that's odd. Like, we're beefing and fighting, but we can't even address the reasons why because

What Drake has told me was like, yo, he honestly just feels it comes from like people viewing his position. Like, you know, the jealousy, the fact that he's at the top, he got the jet, the lifestyle, the, you know what I mean, the money. And because of whatever, you know, maybe wrong or slight, even sometimes if he doesn't intend it.

they may have just like harbored feelings for me. But I still look at them like, nah, not this amount of niggas. It's time to get them today. There is some validity to jealousy. We all get jealous. We all whatever. But when a guy at the top writes off everything as they're just jealous, I don't fully believe that either. You know what I mean? That's not.

And especially it looks even weirder when you're the guy like you're the guy that took Jay-Z's motto to super sane when you put your hand around the new guy. Yeah. Like if every comic went against Joe Rogan and wouldn't say why, you would probably have to say, what the fuck did Joe do? Yeah. The easy thing to say is, well, yeah, you're Jeff is his spot. But it's like, well, he's kind of helped all y'all. Yeah.

And this is a fucking great conspiracy right here. I really don't know. Anybody who spent time with Joe will vouch for Joe. He's a great fucking guy, blah, blah, blah. That's not happening. Has anybody vouched for Drake?

Birdman. Birdman. Yachty. I'm sure Yachty's been-- I don't even know if Yachty's-- No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Yachty had liked a post that seemingly was dissing the other guys. And he said, no, it was a mistake. Yeah. It's like, bro, it's your man's. Like, you guys paint your nails together. You got to stand on it. There's time. Like, yo, you get the little gel joints done together. You got to stand on it right now. They just did a podcast together on the beach with it. Yeah. Who's Zach something? Kendrick said you're playing dirty with Zach.

He's a mutant too, or he's accusing Drake because that's another angle that is masterful. He's defeated every possible angle Drake could go. Number one, there's the angle of, hey, the venue for this beef is Academic Stream, and he's a number one Drake fan. How does this play out? You know what he says? He's compromised. He hits everything, and so the Zach Bia thing is,

At first, the internet lopsidedly was like, yo, it's Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake, Drake. And Kendrick kind of negates it by kind of like trying to air out and put into air. Drake is using a whole bunch of bots. Zach B is a guy who's, I think he manages Yeet, but like,

There are these nefarious individuals that kind of make narratives happen. Oh, excuse the bot, man. Well, that's what he's alluding to. You're the bot, man. You know what I mean? Like, yo, you're cooking up the bots with Drake. You know what I mean? And him kind of like throwing certain things into the air. You got to listen to these songs. I know. You're driving me crazy. He's speaking with so much authority. I sent him every song in order. He did. He did. Now, to be fair, I've never spoken to authority about the music. Yeah. No.

I don't care. You got to. Not like us is such a fucking banger. It's crazy. It is the back-to-back of this battle. Two minutes of song. Give it to him. If Meet the Grams was actually all factual, it would be probably one of the biggest knockout punches we've seen.

To not only reveal, and I wrote a verse to your mom explaining that this industry has corrupted her son and turned him into a pedophile. Let's say that's also real, which that's not real, obviously. And then I showed how you've neglected actual real responsibility, chased the worst things that comes along with fame, the things that you think I'm jealous of you for.

Till you have not only your ear. It's not just like parenting. It was just like you're hiding another child.

He's like, you know, he's dropping these lines like, you call yourself the boy, I'm going to help you turn to the man. Like, that's kind of like, it's taking every, like, you just can't listen to Drake just talk about, yo, I'm going to the club to fuck some bitches no more. Like, this guy's basically saying, this guy's a piece of shit and a creep. Yeah, fuck a rap beef. It's a war with yourself. Yeah, yo, y'all want to listen to this guy? Crazy. For the turn up? I should have listened to that. When I heard that one, I was like. Good thing it was lies. I was like, the whole time I'm listening, I was like, what?

Then I found out I was lying. I was like, whoo, dodged a fucking bullet. Anybody ever pick me apart or expose me in that way? Dodged a bullet, man. I have to off-bust him. He picks him apart in a way that it's like he can't recover from. If the stuff was real, he wouldn't recover. It was lies, so we don't count that. Do you know the master's theory that Drake got a part of this larger contract that has everyone's masters going to him and he's getting a piece of everything? All right, guys, we're going to end the episode here publicly.

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