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Trump Appoints Elon & Vivek To DOGE As Elites LOSE THEIR MINDS + CNN & MSNBC In FIRE SALE! - SF492

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Russell Brand: 本期节目主要讨论了特朗普任命马斯克和拉马斯瓦米领导政府效率部门引发的媒体反应,以及对未来政府的展望。他认为这是一个令人兴奋的事件,但同时也指出了一些批评的声音。他分析了传统媒体的现状,认为其信任度下降,并可能面临变革。他还讨论了独立媒体社区的重要性以及言论自由的价值。他认为,传统媒体必须被摧毁,独立媒体才能生存。他还讨论了人们对政府和媒体的信任问题,以及民主党被企业利益集团控制的问题。他认为,真正的权力能够在不同的政党之间转移,官僚机构变得专制,利用各种手段压制反对声音。他还讨论了Sam Harris批评Joe Rogan的影响力,以及Joe Rogan的播客提供多样化观点的价值。他认为,应该进行独立研究,即使会犯错。他还讨论了找到新的目标来攻击之前让你痛苦的人,但这新的目标可能更糟糕。他还讨论了需要更多地关注寡头政治和媒体被少数公司控制的问题,以及人们批判自己所属阵营错误的重要性。他还讨论了利用自由主义掩盖专制主义的政党是世界面临的最大威胁,以及超越民族民主或共和政体的官僚机构是最大的威胁。他还讨论了民粹主义可能是对抗权力中心唯一的方法。 Van Jones: Van Jones表达了自由派媒体对未来感到迷茫和沮丧的情绪,认为他们输给了特朗普,并对未来感到迷茫。 Joy Reid: Joy Reid 认为对特朗普的投票中存在反黑人的因素,部分投票给特朗普的拉丁裔男性存在反黑情绪,并将哈里斯的政策描述为共产主义对许多拉丁裔人来说很有说服力。 Vivek Ramaswamy: Vivek Ramaswamy阐述了他计划裁减75%的联邦雇员,关闭一些政府机构,取消公务员保护,并为官僚机构设置任期限制的计划。他认为,如果不能解雇员工,就意味着你为他们工作,而不是他们为你工作。 Tulsi Gabbard: Tulsi Gabbard认为任命卢比奥为国务卿将是一个错误,因为他代表新保守主义的战争贩子,这与特朗普的政策相悖。 Eric Metaxas: Eric Metaxas 认为对政府过度依赖会导致共产主义和灵魂的死亡。

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Why did President-elect Donald Trump appoint Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to lead a new commission on government efficiency?

Trump likely appointed Musk and Ramaswamy for their entrepreneurial and business acumen, aiming to bring innovation and efficiency to government operations.

What are the concerns raised by detractors about Elon Musk's appointment?

Detractors argue that Musk, as an oligarch, is too close to Trump and lacks the necessary experience in government to effect real change.

How does the legacy media view the potential impact of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's roles in the new administration?

Legacy media portrays their roles as symbolic and lacking real power, suggesting they won't significantly alter the bureaucratic landscape.

What does Vivek Ramaswamy propose to do with the federal employee base if he were president?

Ramaswamy plans to reduce the federal employee headcount by 75% in his first term, focusing on shutting down agencies that he believes should not exist.

What is the significance of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in terms of transparency and public engagement?

The DOGE aims to be fully transparent and take public suggestions online, contrasting with traditional government practices that often lack openness.

Why might some people be concerned about Marco Rubio's potential appointment as Secretary of State?

Concerns arise due to Rubio's alignment with neocon warmongering policies, which are seen as contrary to Trump's stated foreign policy goals.

What does Pete Hegseth suggest should be done to reform the military?

Hegseth advocates for firing senior leaders involved in DEI initiatives, removing DEI and CRT from military academies, and reinstating combat standards from 1995.

How does the podcast host view the potential impact of Trump's administration on globalism and war?

The host hopes for a disruption of globalism and an end to unnecessary wars, with a focus on diplomacy and the health of ordinary Americans.

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President-elect Trump's appointment of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to lead a new commission on government efficiency has sparked excitement and debate. This chapter explores the potential impact of this unconventional pairing and the public's reaction.
  • Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy appointed to lead government efficiency commission.
  • Public reaction is mixed, with some questioning Musk's power and others expressing optimism.
  • Upcoming guests on the show include Dr. Robert Malone and Rudy Giuliani.

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- Hey, what's going on? Hello there, you awakening wonders. We're right in the middle of the show in a glorious day. We've landed, we've already done stuff today that's fantastic. We've got a brilliant week coming up. This show is gonna be fantastic. First of all, is it Doge with a hardga or is it Doge with a softga? Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. Are you excited about that? I'll tell you what, I am thrilled about myself.

is ingenuity and entrepreneurship. What are the detractors saying, though? I've heard some detractors saying Elon Musk's got no real power. What will people say? That Elon Musk is an oligarch who's too close to Trump. But what was it before when the oligarchical power of Soros and Gates could move the needle during a pandemic? And you know where that needle ended up, baby, right in your arm. But did it

it stay right in your arm? I'm saying, did some of those spike proteins migrate to the surface of the old heart? The evidence suggests that it did. Hey, we're going to have a brilliant day today and a brilliant show. And it's a brilliant week because tomorrow...

Dr. Robert Malone is our guest on the show. On Friday, Rudy Giuliani is our guest on the show. I don't know what you might love Rudy Giuliani from. His fleeting appearance in a Sacha Baron Cohen film when he was America's mayor during 9-11. Let me know what you want me to talk to Rudy Giuliani about. I met him before the RNC.

He had good granddad energy. He seemed like a kind, decent man. So we've got a few good things over the course of the week. If you're not in the Rumble chat yet, get in there. Like J Logan or Jude DeBrain or Argon Media. There's some interesting conversation flying about. And if you're not on Awake and Wonder, sorry yesterday about the locals chat, get in that Awake and Wonder chat because in a minute, we're going to be doing break bread with Russell Brand. 3.20, that's Eastern time. 8.20 GMT. I don't know what time it is on the Pacific, but...

Yeah, yeah, that dependent child. I see you. Jim Irvsey says, I'm looking sharp. Thanks very much. Which you go in the rumble chat. You're lucky we believe in free speech or that will be totally banned. Some people are saying that Rudy should be AG. Amazing. We're going to have a message for you, Rudy. I brought that up in front of him.

And you hadn't heard of that song. Have you heard of that song? It's a British ska band. I don't know. It's in keeping with my shirt in some ways. Hiya on the Pacific coast, nerd far away in the Rumble chat. In the Rumble chat. If you're watching us on YouTube...

For about 15 minutes, we'll be there. And we'll be talking to you about the media meltdown and breakdown. CNN are firing stars. Brian Stelter is going to be looking for a job. I see my mate Dave Rubin posted, and maybe I could give him a job. He could sit in the corner of the room. I could throw nuts at him. So if you know like Dave Rubin, he's got sort of, don't you think he's got Rat Pack vibes? Anyway, like, I'd like to work with Brian Stelter. He's just a legitimate suing man.

impression of him that I can do that's a little bit like Cam in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I'll work on it. But I liked it when it was, listen, why are people watching Joe Rogan? It's a question that's still being asked. We'll be talking about

about Van Jones's assessment of liberal media. We'll be calling Latino and black men racists now. And we'll be talking about the Sam Harris, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan spat, as well as the thing I'm super excited to talk about. Oh yeah. Pete Hegzeth. Pete Hegzeth, your new, like some of the appointees of Trump. Let me know how you feel in the comments and chat. A

about some of these appointments. It's gonna be a fantastic show and we're gonna have a lot of fantastic fun. Let's start off by talking about media and letting you know that if you're not an Awaken Wonder yet, become an Awaken Wonder because I'm gonna be with my teacher.

jay john a little later when i say he's my teacher he's the person i do my bible study with and it's super helpful so you'll be able to do a bit of bible study with me all right so cnn are sacking people all over the gaff top stars are getting laid off all over comcast is putting msnbc up for sale cnn are announcing massive layoffs how long in my country can the bbc keep demanding to be taxpayer funded when they're taxpayer attackers when they hate the people that they're

are meant to be broadcasting to, I'm talking about the news division, where they are sneering and contemptuous about ordinary people, where they hold their noses as they report the news, where they amplify smears and attacks, where they can't be trusted. Is this a revolution coming out of independent media? Are we going to see the legacy media quake and shake because of their attachments to groups like Logically AI and CRISP, shady organizations that are

Probably putting bots in the chat right now. They're censoring you right now. The mistake I will never make again, Lord, is this. Thinking for a second, like I did when I was a dumb fool celebrity, that it was about me. That somehow I deserved it because there was something special about me because I was all that and a bag of chips. When all it was is I temporarily had a bit of attention because I was useful to the system. Damn! I was able to play the role of the bad boy womanizer. Damn!

They needed one for a minute. And fool that I was, insecure wreck and wretch that I was, greedy worshipper of false idols that I was, I was willing to bow down before Satan. And Lord, now let me please stay true to you and realize that we have a great

community here on Awaken Wonders on Locals. We have a great audience here on Rumble, even on YouTube, controlled by the TNI, controlled by the Deep State, controlled by groups like the 77th Brigade, run by Mark Lancaster, married to Caroline Dynage, the very woman that asked I be demonetized. Really, forget woman. Men

of Parliament in the UK. Ah, it all makes sense now. I've seen the light, the deep state, the legacy media and global bureaucracies all aligned to support corporatism and the only thing that can oppose them isn't loud mouths from the UK or even mighty UFC commentators preaching across blue-collar America. Neither is it any one of the emergent stars in independent media is, of course, the

The fact that communities of people form around these channels, whether you're watching me or even the people that hate me, like I'm talking about Sam Seder or Dave Packman, the left-wing ones, support independent media because legacy media has to be brought down.

These corporations have to be destroyed. This is Buddy 1205. You were PSYOP, Russell. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It was a PSYOP, all right? But now we are fighting back. In fact, we're not fighting back. You are fighting back. When I knew you guys were smarter was some time ago. There was a Facebook whistleblower came forward. There was like Facebook...

It's really negatively impacting young people. And the government was like, that's why we have to regulate and censor Facebook. And I was like, for a minute, I was like, yeah, this is good, this. They should regulate and censor Facebook. And then all of the community, all of the people, it was YouTube at the end days. That's when you could be open and honest on YouTube. All of the YouTube comments were like, you idiot. This whistleblower is a stooge. They're creating a story to legitimize the regulation of Facebook.

But now we are fast, we migrate quickly to new platforms. You know that you can trust Rumble to be free speech because Rumble's banned in Brazil, Rumble's banned in France, Rumble's banned in Russia, curiously enough. So free speech don't care about your ideology. Free speech specifically don't care about your ideology. It only believes in one ideology, the right for you to speak freely. If we have that right, we can continue to attack.

those that want to see us silenced and what I want to say, bound, gagged, gagged, those that want to gag us out.

I know that's what Candace Owens thinks. We'll be talking about that.

a little later as well. We'll stay with you on YouTube for a minute, but then we're going to be on that sweet stream rumble. Hey, JT, I know you're watching the chat and regulating it right now because that's what you're doing. JT, come in and make this a bit smaller on rumble for me and check that locals is updating because I can't see locals updating. Hello, Lester Burner. Come in here now and do it for me, mate, on the laptop. Right, let's get into our first story. It's CNN's Brian Starr.

explaining that the public not trusting CNN is not his fault. But I want to recognize that for all the flaws of the mainstream media, and we have a lot of them, it's not just the media's fault that trust has been declining for decades. It's also decades of attacks by politicians. That is the main issue, is that like, I mean, yeah, it could be that the Washington Post is endorsing candidates, or it could be that there are millions of voters who believe lying politicians who tell them lies.

knowing that they are. I mean, that could be the problem too. Hey, I just heard you lot saying in the chat that Trump and Biden are meeting right now. Can we watch that on a stream anyway? Where can we watch that being streamed, Isaac? Brilliant. Let's go for wherever it's being streamed. We're going to be bringing you that in a second. Thanks for telling us, Luke. Here's Van Jones admitting that the liberal media have no idea what they're doing. If you're the Democrats...

What are you going to do for the next two years? How do you regroup? Therapy. We're all going to therapy. Why are we here? If you're a Democrat, all we can say is we hope that Suzy decides that she's going to take a long vacation, that they hire some terrible people and make some mistakes to give us a chance. Right now, they have everything. They've got the Supreme Court. They've got the Electoral College. They've got the House. Probably they've got the Senate. They've got the...

with a vote and we're just sitting here with the dunce cap on. This time last week we thought we were the smartest people in the world. We thought Donald Trump was an idiot. We thought his campaign made no sense and it turned out they were smarter than us and we don't have anything to say to you. I can sit here and pretend I know something. Here's what I know. Everybody I know is miserable. Everybody's on these Zoom calls. Nobody's got any good ideas and it's going to take us a while to figure this out.

I'm not good at coming here and faking it, pretending like that. No, we've got one. You can go to the spa. You need a massage and a cucumber water. I agree. And a cookie. That's right. All right. All right. Let's go over to this. Look at X. Bring on the X feed for us, Isaac. Let me find me in on there. Let me find that. Here I am.

Thank you very much. And politics is tough.

And it's, in many cases, not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today, and I appreciate it very much. A transition that's so smooth, it'll be as smooth as it can get, and I very much appreciate that, Jim. You're welcome. Well, Mr. President-elect and former president... Thank you. That's pretty interesting, that's the way that that unfolds. Is that quite a sweet moment? Is that a sweet moment that suggests that...

The transition of power is happening peacefully. Do you notice that that seems to be the passive aggressive dig that they continually offer? Morgan, who else thinks that Biden voted for Trump?

Who have you saw that speech he gave when he was suddenly super cogent? Did you see that? That was like a near miraculous moment. I really, really enjoyed that. Okay, well, so that's interesting. The cogs and wheels are turning still, but

X control, let's go X screen. Let's go me full screen. Thank you very much. All right. Okay, let's have a look at Joy Reid continuing to blame people for voting in the wrong direction. And it's this idea of I want to be with the side that's waving the biggest flag. I want to fit in. And there is a huge element of...

to be honest, of anti-blackness in a lot of this, anti-black American-ness specifically. And Paola and I have talked about this, that there is a part of that, that anti-blackness is a piece of it, even though Enrique Tarrio, who's the head of the Proud Boys, is a black Latino, but he's down with white supremacists.

down with them. And there's this idea that I'm black, but I'm not black. I may look black to you. I may be black if I'm walking through Bloomingdale's and get followed around. But in my mind, I'm identifying with whiteness because whiteness means privilege and it means not being a black American. This has to be unpacked because this shift among Latino men is significant. And it says something about where we're going in this country, about whether we can create an appeal. There's also the last thing I will throw in is this a

this the creation of the idea that everything that vice president harris was proposing is communism is communism that is a potent argument yeah for a lot of latinos oh yeah right because they come from um penury in communist countries where those systems haven't worked that's interesting though it doesn't feel like

Right. I'm going to try my best to see if I can actually say what I genuinely believe the problem is. The problem is that the Democrat party got captured by corporatism in the same way that the Labour party in my country got captured by corporatism probably around the late 80s, early 90s. What I mean is they became deregulatory when it came to financial industries and they forgot that the idea, by the way, of a

party that represents working-class people. That's the idea. That's the idea of the Labour Party in the UK. I don't know, you tell me in the comments and chat what the idea is behind the Democrat Party. I think it's menopause that idea. They represent ordinary working people. That's a good idea. Whether or not centralising state power

leads to a better society is obviously a question that your country in particular has completely rejected. And I can understand why that would be because if you replace our belief in a higher power or a God with belief in the state, you're essentially saying the state has the kind of rights that you would attribute to a God, those kind of rights.

values and powers, i.e. the ability to say what's sayable and what's unsayable, the ability to decide who can be killed and who's not able to be killed. And that's a kind of power I don't want the state having. And it seems like the Democrat Party are unwilling to have the hard conversation that's required. They made themselves pointless. They made themselves pointless. And until they make themselves valuable again, they're going to be in decline. And so I would say

moving into irrelevance. But the broader rhythms of matters like this appear to be that whatever real power runs things is able to migrate between parties. You know, like in the 90s, for example, it was Cheney and Bush that were the party of war, right? And they were in government and there were a bunch of wars that were beneficial to the kind of elite powers and corporate powers that we're describing now then. And

And then now Cheney is supporting the Democrat Party. And, you know, like the Republicans have peculiarly become some sort of...

Blue collar populist, blue collar, excuse me, populist movement. It's extraordinary the way that it fluctuates. And I think the way to understand it is, if you have a look at my conversation tomorrow with Robert Malone, we talk about how bureaucracies have become tyrannical. He taught me these two phrases. One, inverted totalitarianism, where entrenched government bureaucrats are able to supersede the power of elected officials. That was one interesting thing I learned. And another one was tyrannicalism.

fifth generation warfare. That's the kind of warfare where various bureaucracies and institutions come together to shut down opposition using myriad means. But they're not going to be able to do that stuff forever. If you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to be there for a couple more minutes. Let's spend a few seconds looking at this new... Hey, Isaac, mate, can you turn on the two lights either side of the screen? Because actually, on top of everything else, I use them for reading and I don't know what turns them on and off.

Thank you, mate. Sam Harris and...

put them on a list of things that we do before kickoff. Thanks man. Now I know the guy that manages Sam Harris and I'm friends with that guy's brother. So I'm always like, you know, when do we know? And Sam Harris has been on my show a bunch of times and I've had good conversations with him, even though he's an atheist and I don't agree with that. Even though he believes that sort of rationalism might be able to resolve all of our problems. Does he believe that? Because he's right interested in spirituality in the form of a kind of atheistic Buddhism.

He's criticized Joe Rogan. Now, I see Rubin the other day saying that, you know, once it was Sam Harris who was the up and coming neurologist who was making waves by talking about politics when he has no academic pedigree in the subject. And now it seems that he's reverting to that type of conservatism that is defined by, hey, shut up. You're not allowed to do that. You know, criticizing Joe Rogan for his influence. Let's have a listen to that. Let's have a look at Musk's response. And there's

Let's see if we can diagnose from looking at this conversation what the movements are even in the independent media space and how it's sort of likely to evolve once Trump takes office in January. That's a good few things to discuss, isn't it? The Joe Rogan Podcast is not a substitute for The Wall Street Journal or the Kennedy School at Harvard.

It is simply not progress to have a comedian like Dave Smith, who's apparently done his own research, interviewed about the history of the Middle East or the war in Ukraine. Whoa. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Okay. And then now he's talking about... So Dave Smith actually might be an autodidact. He might have done his own research and...

That's one of the things actually that really alarmed me during the pandemic when people started to criticize folk for not being experts and started to undermine the idea of doing your own research. The presupposition being that you're too stupid to understand information for yourself.

right, that you need information to be digested and pre-tuned for you, that if you're not an academic, you shouldn't even be talking about stuff. That's called orthodoxy. That's like what the Pharisees and Sadducees said. You can't just start directly worshipping God and ignoring all our rules that we use to institute power and utilize control.

Of course you should do your own research. You will make mistakes, but hey, we know in the post-pandemic era that some pretty serious experts made mistakes that were costly for us and beneficial for them. Like some of the experts that were working in government that now work in Pfizer or Moderna, they made mistakes, didn't they? Like they were telling everyone you had to take this vaccine or you might die. Turns out that was a mistake. I can tell now that it might be time for me to get off YouTube, start the countdown. You're going to want to stay with us because we're going to be talking about...

Some of the appointments. Do you think it's too hawkish and pro-war? Let me know about that. We're going to be talking about Marco Rubio. We're, of course, going to be talking about the DOGE or the DOG, the Department of Government Efficiency. Will it work? Can

it work? Is this a new era? And we'll be talking about the ramifications across the globe of this historic election. We can't talk about that on YouTube because it's part of the censorship industrial complex. You're all right to chat about makeup. Don't try to talk about revolution. Click the link in the description. Come on over to Rumble. Let's have a look at Sam Harris talking about Elon and Bobby Kennedy. I understand how satisfying it is

to find a new bully to beat up the other bullies who've been making you miserable.

Okay, but the problem is this new bully is worse, right? This new bully has no principles. This new bully has no journalistic or academic or scientific conscience to appeal to. Whatever might be wrong with a person like Anthony Fauci or Francis Collins or any of the other doctors who have been demonized right of center for their approach to setting COVID policy? Oh, wow. That's where Sam Harris...

Right, that's the hill he wants to die on. That's a crazy hill to die on because whilst Joe Rogan is by his nature a populist, i.e. he reaches a lot of people and is popular,

His guests have been interestingly diverse, particularly, I would argue, during the pandemic period. Who among us would have heard of Robert Malone, who's the guest on our show tomorrow, incidentally, if it were not for Joe Rogan or Peter McCulloch or Jay Bhattacharya or

many of the significant voices that changed the way we regarded what was happening during the pandemic. Didn't many of us learn for the first time as a result of Joe Rogan's conversations that you shouldn't vaccinate during a pandemic, that mRNA technology was not designed to be deployed in this way? We learned that from Robert Malone, the inventor of it. Didn't we learn from watching Joe Rogan

that getting out and exercising and doing breath work and subjecting yourself to cold were all important ideas. So it's not enough to say that Joe Rogan don't have a degree and should therefore shut up because a lot of times it's not him that he's saying, what do you think about this? And then listening. In fact, I like and a lot of you will have seen this post

that person that said Joe Rogan's like a fourth century Khan, like a member of the Khan dynasty. Uh, I don't know what century they would have been. Were they sort of early medieval? So yeah, early medieval. So saying like, explain to Joe Rogan, what is it? Science man, glasses man. Tell me what caused myocarditis. You know, like he's like a sort of a, uh,

an equestrian archer like Genghis Khan or his lineage calling experts to his court to explain complex ideas. Joe Rogan himself apparently rather liked that analysis. Maybe that's a fair description. He's someone...

who has authority and power now as a result of his popularity, but I don't think he's wielding it irresponsibly as he seems to be someone that's sort of kind of practicing what he preaches. He wants to get on with his own life, likes to hunt, likes doing Brazilian jujitsu, eating meat and stuff like that, talks to a lot of experts, cares about nutrition. And he was pretty reluctant even to endorse Trump, even offering Kamala the opportunity to go in there. I don't see like why Sam Harris is haughtily condemning him. And as for Elon Musk being sort of a bully, that the bully, a defeater,

an uber bully an end game bully an end level bully boss to beat all other bullies that doesn't seem fair either because there's certainly only certain stories emerge and other stories remain subterranean we still don't talk enough about the influence and power of the oligarch or billionaire class that benefit from for example the ukraine russia war we don't talk enough about media being

in the hands of a few corporations and them operating in basic alignment through the Trusted News Initiative and taking all of their money from big pharma and therefore being sort of locked in a never-ending tenacious grip with commercial interests that they should be able to report on objectively. You know, I feel like what we need

is get Dave Smith on. Yeah, let's get Dave Smith on. Good point, Dan the boy. Yeah, let's get him on. I think like what we need are people to be

critical of their own side. For example, like say you're pro-Trump and pro-MAGA, you should be going, "I hope they govern the way they campaign. I hope that they don't advocate for more war. I hope we do see a reckoning for Pfizer in the field of big pharma and a reckoning for the military industrial complex. I hope the Pentagon not passing their last six audits comes to light. I hope that troops and service personnel are honored and revered and looked after.

but the military industrial complex are bought under control. I think it's right to say that, yeah? Would you say so? Let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with that. But if you're a globalist, if you're a supporter of the Democrat Party, which I now regard just as a sort of a vassal for globalism in the same way the Labour Party in my country is and the Conservative Party in my country is, or the party that Macron or Trudeau head up, these parties...

that use liberalism to mask authoritarianism is the biggest threat facing the world. Bureaucracies such as NATO and the WHO clearly have great power and are tending and trending towards CBDCs so they can control that.

citizen ID so that they can social credit score us, I would say. And we've already seen the early symptoms and indicators of that. For example, the shutting down of the bank accounts or the truckers doing the process. You know, like the information's already out there. Bureaucracies that transcend national democracies or republics are our greatest threat. And their relationships with the deep state and their relationships with corporatism, commercial corporatism and capitalist corporatism, I mean, are fundamental.

the nexus of power that has to be opposed and can probably only be opposed by a kind of populism that forms around nationalism. There's an argument for you to mull over. And I'd sort of like to hear where Sam Harris stands on that rather than just saying that Musk

and RFK are bullies, but I bet that Elon Musk can be relied on to respond maturely and sensibly. And there he goes. Okay, let's have a look at MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell. Now.

Our main subject today is the DOJ, the Department of Government Efficiency. All the way through the campaign, new stars kept emerging. Vivek Ramaswamy, for a minute, was against Trump, weren't he? One of the candidates running for the leadership of the Republican Party. Then he yielded and became an advocate and supporter of Trump. Very sly, very sly, Vivek. I liked watching the bomb moths fly as Trump brought down his opponents. We've spoke to Vivek a bunch of times. He is sharp, he is

fast. He is clever and he's an independent, successful business person. So he's an interesting appointment. Elon Musk is perhaps an unparalleled American figure. Who are you going to compare him to? Is it Randolph Hearst, William Hearst, that media magnate? Are you going to compare him to Walt Disney, Carnegie

Rockefeller? Who's he like? I don't know. Maybe he's the kind of figure that could only emerge out of these times and this media in the way that Walt Disney emerged out of technology that defined his era. You know, animation being one example of that. Creating worlds from his imagination. Elon Musk and

and Vivek Ramaswamy have got their own new branch of government. The legacy media are of course claiming that it's an ersatz and phatic position, a symbol only, that won't have any real control. But when he was campaigning, Vivek Ramaswamy said he was going to sack off 75% of government employees. And what I've learned to understand is that many of these employees, whether they know it or not,

are the guardians of what we call the deep state. The kind of bureaucrats that mean that elections don't mean anything even when you have a fair and successful one. So let's have a look at this new department of government efficiency. You'll have seen Elon's memes. It's the very top of his page. Here's a picture of him in sunglasses and a chain. Yep, in fact, go to X right now. There it is. Him in them glasses acting all cool.

One second, let me have a look at it. Sorry about that, guys. I'm not a master at operating the internet. Maybe we can, hey, we should set this laptop so that it doesn't go off Isaac on a, like a, like, you know, like when you can have timers never, ever out time. So it just gently runs itself down. Oh, that's him dressed as a knight. That's no good. I want to see that one where he's sort of wearing sunglasses and stuff. Oh, there he is doing that with an American flag around him. That seems to be a duck. That's no use to any of us.

A lot of this kind of stuff flying around. There's a little dog. That's no help. Saudi Arabia, what's going on there? Oh, Tommy Robinson in Saudi Arabia. What's he saying? Obviously, it's always a risk to get involved with that. MSNBC's viewership drops by half in days. Oh, they must be terrified. Anyway, you know the image I'm referring to. It'll probably be the thumbnail, right, of our thing. The Department of Government Efficiency. It's like Elon Musk with, like, sunglasses on, that one.

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Lawrence O'Donnell on legacy media saying that Vivek and Elon's power will be merely symbolic. Is ultimately all power symbolic as we live here on this material plane, vapor, dust on the wind of history? Elon Musk suffered a humiliating demotion tonight by Donald Trump. The theory that.

I can already tell that there was a meeting before this where he went, "Do you know what I'm going to say? I'm going to present this as a humiliating demotion. It's the only way we can attack this now." Like, you can see the media that has been bested and cowed by the results of the election

scrambling to find their new position, perhaps recognizing that during the Biden and Kamala era, it was right wing media or at least anti-establishment media that came to the forefront. They surely must be realizing now that if you're anti-establishment, that if

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are about to become inverted commas, the establishment. There will be a void in media for people that are openly attacking them. The problem is, is in media spaces like ours, we're all gonna openly continue to discuss the government in exactly the same way.

Me, for example, I'm English. I'm not even from your country. I don't know what you should be doing. All I know is that I believe in certain principles. Free speech is one of them. The right to have the maximum power in your own individual life. The right to be able to rely on institutions that claim to have access to vital and verifiable principles like justice and kindness. To not see those things weaponized by the state, as they've obviously become in recent years. To have a media that you can rely on because they report the truth rather than

kowtowing to their imperialist masters and amplifying their messaging. You know, that's the kind of stuff I'm interested in and that won't change whoever's in government. So Lawrence O'Donnell here is immediately sort of framing himself, I suppose, as the voice of reason against Vivek and Elon. They've suffered a humiliating demotion. Let's see how he can undergird that idea because, well, I suppose what did it say is

in the announcement. I'm honored to announce that I've nominated Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to run up this new thing. I'd love to see that statement, actually, as a matter of fact. The theory that Elon Musk might become, in effect, a co-president or the real president while Donald Trump, in effect, retires to a life of golfing.

I didn't think that. Did you think that? Did you think that Donald Trump endured all the things that he has for the last 12, 15 years, however long this madness has been going on? Simply to say, Elon, it's over to you. I didn't think that was what was going to happen. I thought that what Elon Musk would be over is a bunch of government bureaucracies that were overpopulated with a pair of cheeks and mandarins, mandarins that are answerable.

only to diffuse deep state powers. They're not even remotely centralized or ordered, except in so much as they're generally supportive of corporate globalist enterprises, whether they're commercial or authoritarian, that we learned so much about during the pandemic, which we broadly understand to be the military industrial complex or the nexus of power that is built around health and big pharma and big food and big agriculture. I felt that Vivek Ramaswamy

And Elon Musk would be swooping, is the word I'm going to use, into those kind of agencies and going, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired, apprentice style. And my feeling is that Bobby Kennedy is going to be going in and like into the NIH and CDC and all that and going, whoa, you lot was lying during the pandemic.

Pfizer, let's see them files. And I'll have the files on my dead uncle as well. That's what I was anticipating. A lot of revelation and a lot of truth telling. And by the way, the election was less than a week ago and he don't take office till January. And of course, there's still lawfare going on. He's still facing like, you know, charges and attacks and stuff like that. Let me know what you guys think about all of that. Do you

Are you concerned about some of the military appointments? We'll be discussing that in a minute. And do you think that our man Bobby Kennedy is going to be able to make moves in the health department, for example? Because in the conversation that you'll be able to see with Robert Malone, he says Kennedy's a great leader, but how is he going to cope in bureaucracy? We're going to be asking all these questions until we get satisfactory answers. Suffered a significant setback tonight when Donald Trump announced that he would give Elon Musk a job

that does not exist and will last at most 18 months. And worst of all, Elon Musk, the richest person in the world, was assigned a working partner

who, like Musk, has also never worked in government before. They've not worked in government. And if this election's shown us anything, it's people love the government. And people love other folks that are deeply entrenched within the government. Why? Whether it's the victories in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or all the other swing states that went to MAGA Trump independent aligned movements, it's one thing is clearer than ever. People love and trust the government and the

the media. They want people that have been in government for so long they've turned into kind of evil skeletons or they're part dust by the time they become president. Joe Biden was the first dust president. We'd had dust bowl presidencies but never a dust president and we also want those kind of corporates

corporatized, hollowed out, vacant, staring officials that have worked in litigation and authoritarianism. That's what people like. They don't want plucky young guys like Vivek Ramaswamy who do push-ups on command or guys like RFK that attack Pfizer. No, we want a deep state more powerful than ever. Vivek Ramaswamy, who's not even a billionaire.

He's not even a billionaire. And what kind of racist is going to have brown skin like that? Even a billionaire. Elon Musk didn't even get his own press release from Donald Trump. He had to share it. Can you imagine how upset Elon Musk must be? I can't imagine what Elon Musk's life's like. Can you? SpaceX, Tesla.

Neuralink, government offices, children. Who among us can imagine what it might be like inside his mind? Even with the tiny amount of power that I wield, which essentially comes down to this thing, right? Pressing these buttons. That's my power, you know? And like some people watching me on Rumble and people watching me, like some of us, I think, man, you can't understand what it's like to be me, to even say that to me, to say that I'm controlled opposition. I'm really trying my best. I'm really trying my best to be...

honest and authentic. Did you not see how I was attacked last year? Do you not see how open and honest I've always been? I'm flawed, I'm fallible, I'm broken, right? So like, that's me, a person like on a low, low, low scale of fame and influence. So Elon Musk is not going to be like,

He talked about Vivek Ramaswamy in this press release. His mind won't work like that. In fact, in a way, what Lawrence O'Donnell, I believe is his name, said just then indicates as much of the media since the election continues to indicate how...

out of touch they are, how little they understand, how little hope there is of them ever again being trusted with power. That's what we're witnessing. And indeed, if you've watched my channel for a while, you'll know that because I read most of the book, The Revolt of the Public by Martin Goury, who's been a guest on our show, he told us this would happen.

Oh, he said people have got access to communication technology at an unprecedented level. You're not going to be able to control people with centralized media anymore. This is going to have all sorts of ramifications. We've already seen it play out in the record industry through Napster. We've seen it in protests through Occupy and the Arab Spring. And in Brexit and Trump, we see it play out politically. But this is just the beginning. What we're going to see is centralized authoritarian groups trying to justify taking authoritarian control. Probably he didn't say this bit. I'm adding this bit.

probably by doing stuff like having there be pandemics and endless wars and economic crises or ecological crises that legitimize centralized authority so that you can post-fact reverse engineer the need for total control. Luke, post that, baby. Post that on X. From Donald Trump. He had to share it with Vivek Ramaswamy. Elon Musk got the first shared press release of any of Donald Trump's appointment announcements.

Even the Fox host, who isn't even the richest person at Fox, got his own press release from Donald Trump when Donald Trump announced that he would nominate Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense. That's right, a Fox weekend morning host. Donald Trump announced, quote, Elon Musk, working in conjunction with Vivek Ramaswamy, will lead the Department of Government Efficiency. There is no such thing.

as the Department of Government Efficiency.

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Lawrence O'Donnell may think that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk are a couple of chuckling nitwits about to advance themselves into a bureaucratic tangle and mangle that won't amount to nothing. But Vivek Ramaswamy, when he was campaigning, said that he was going to eliminate 75% of governmental departments. He came out

show actually and said stuff like that it was one of the interviews that we passed posted of him it was brilliant when he talked about that or maybe it was on Jordan Peterson you know I can't remember anymore the whole thing that's why this election was so crazy because you've got so much access to information now that they don't want you to have and it's

carrying on and it's continuing. It's changing the world. It's actually truly amazing. Here's Vivek Ramaswamy saying that he would lose 75% of government employees. And I don't think that means hardworking men and women cleaning streets and genuinely contributing to communities. I get the sense he means a managerial class that are ensuring that nothing really changes with or without elections. Let's have a look. What's your plan to reduce the size of government, especially with the number of government employees? How do you tackle that?

Is it possible? Yes, it is. Yay. Yes, it is. We demonstrate it is possible. Look to the states. So the first thing is my first term in office, 75% headcount reduction across the federal employee base, 50% done in the first year. Take the government agencies that should not exist, from the FBI to the IRS to the ATF to the CDC to the Department of Education.

get in there and shut them down. That is how we revive the integrity of a constitutional republic. You know, if I'm the US president, that's your choice, not mine, but if you all put me there and I can't work for you for more than eight years, which I think is a good thing, then neither should any of those bureaucrats reporting into me. Civil service protection's out, term limits in for the bureaucracy.

And I understand this as a CEO. I've built businesses. Many of you run businesses, big and small, across this audience. You know it with me that if somebody works for you and you cannot fire them, that means they don't work for you.

Whoa, that's a famous quote, isn't it? It means that you work for them. Let me know what you think about that. Do you think the Department of Government Efficiency is going to land? Do you think that engineers and entrepreneurs and autistic genii are precisely what government needs right now? And do

you believe that this is going to bring about the kind of changes in America that were campaigned on? Are we going to see a reduction in government inefficiency? Are we going to see a reduction in corruption, a reduction in corporate influence? Someone in the chat pointed out Bobby Kennedy's not been given a post yet. Is he going to be given a role that means he'll be able to do what many of us hoped he would do, clean out the bureaucratic and regulatory corruption that's in groups like the FDA, NIH, CDC?

and replace it with transparency and openness. One thing I read about that Department of Government Efficiency, for example, is they're going to take suggestions online and they're going to be fully transparent about their governance. Transparency for the government, privacy for the citizenry. Not what they're trying to work out. Transparency for citizens, privacy for the government. Release the files, guys. Release the files. They're seeing the Epstein list.

Let's see who was getting down and dirty with whom. Let's see what happened. Let's see what's going on in Area 51. Let's see what went on with JFK. Let's find out the truth about the pandemic. But that's just what I think and what I'd expect. Let me know what you think in the comments and chat. If you're watching this on YouTube, remember to subscribe and turn on the notification bell. Because on Rumbles, where we stream freely with Uncle Charlie and Never a Democrat and Second Chance and Flower Powers,

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Just a few of the guests coming up. Robert Malone's on the show tomorrow. Rudy Giuliani's on Friday. So you're going to... This is appointment to view streaming. This is the kind of streaming that changes the world. If the legacy media didn't know it a week ago, they certainly know it now. Here's a little clip of Eric Metaxas. No, excuse me. My last break bread...

Before that, this is Jay John. Remember what this has got to look like? Remember, guys, we've talked about that. And here's a little clip of Eric Metaxas talking about what leads to communism. So they think, well, then what can we get? I guess, you know, voting for somebody who will forgive my college loans, who will take the money, the taxes of working class Americans to pay off my college loans. So you're back to socialism. You're back to the government being...

mother and father and giving you what it gives you. And you say, well, that's good enough for me. So I have to trade a little freedom. That's fine with me. Just give me my vodka and a place to sleep. And it leads to communism and the death of the soul.

Yeah, it's all happening, baby. Okay, we've got a lot. So I'll be having a conversation with J. John in a minute. Join me for that. Okay, let's have a look at this. What do we fancy? What do we fancy? Alex Jones, Marco Rubio. Tell me what you got. Tell me one, two or three. Do you want to see?

Do you want to see Bill Ma torching Democrat wokeism after losing the election? That's one. Do you want to see Candace Owens saying Trump is being manipulated by the deep state? That's two. Or do you want to see...

Alex Jones confronting Marco Rubio in the past. So one for Bill Maher, two Candice Owens, three Rubio. It doesn't mean you like those people necessarily or dislike them. It just means that's the subject. One, two or three. First one to 20 is the one I'll do. I'm watching both of you. Again, a lot of two on Awaken Wonders. A lot of two. I think it's going to be two. I think it's going to be two. I can't even remember which one two was.

What was it to? The Candace Owens. Yep, let's have a look at that. Okay, so Donald Trump hasn't even taken office yet. The election was only like a week or so ago, but some people are concerned that even a popular victor like Donald Trump won't be able to overcome the behemoth that is the American deep state, which we know to be one of the dark lashing tentacles of globalism.

Global corporations is one branch of power. The deep state is another branch of power. Global bureaucracy is another branch of power. Your NATOs, your WHOs, your military industrial complex, your Raytheons, your Lockheed Martins, your big farmers, your Pfizer's and Moderna's. All these things come together in a lovely little bundle.

Donald Trump

And I think now what it is is about holding...

basically everyone around him accountable, their feet to the fire and making sure that there is not an infiltration. And that is a major concern right now that there are people around him that have infiltrated. And the biggest example of that, of course, is the fact that Mike Pompeo's name was even being floated at all. Nikki Haley's name was even being floated at all.

I had it on very good authority, and I'm not going to name names here, but there were basically neocons, the war hawks, the people that love to send Americans over to die overseas, especially if they're Southern Americans. They love to send Southern men over to die overseas.

I like that camera. I like that camera. Rob, who's starring as a producer on Monday, I know you'll be watching this. That camera. I like that camera. Send Southern men over. That's like a Dr. John Campbell camera. Is that Alex Jones' camera? Send Southern men over to die overseas because they're probably the last shred of masculinity that we have in this country, you know? And they are...

are hell-bent on this war with Iran. And so the concern was that he was going to put people in his cabinet that are these war hawks. And so I want to know, yes, it's great. Trump tweets that Mike Pompeo, thank you, Nikki Haley, for your service. Thank you, Mike Pompeo. You will not be in the new administration. But what's important is who was in his ear that even suggested it? That

person also has to go. Every person who said to him, yes, hire Mike Pompeo, get him back in there. They also need to go because we have the neocons bragging in private that they've got a guy on the inside. And here's what they're saying. This is what I was told by somebody who was a president for one of these conversations held by a neocon. They basically said they know how to manipulate Trump. They know that all they have to do is to flatter him, right?

All we have to do is flatter Trump and tell him that if he does this is gonna be perceived as amazing. And they feel that because they came in at the end with money that Trump will do as they say. Now, I don't believe that. I know Trump is his own man. And I think that's going to give them trouble as Trump is an alpha. He's not gonna sit around and be bossed around by a bunch of people. But of course, this is a major concern for us. And we're still happy, we're still celebrating. But now we have to make sure that these cabinet picks are correct.

It's a crucial time for crucial analysis. It's interesting, isn't it? Do you see like Alex Jones now, his audience is growing, his biceps are growing, his body fat is being depleted. This is going to be interesting because you're not now just going to be able to shut him down. I know InfoWars is still under some judicial threat, but how are

all of the victims of lawfare going to fare now that there is a new central set of powers taking over these bureaucracies, particularly if some of the deep state entrenched figures are going to be chucked right out of there. It's going to be pretty fascinating. Right. A lot of you also wanted to talk about some of these other appointments. This is like

Marco Rubio is likely to become Secretary of State. That's what a lot of people are saying. Tulsi Gabbard spoke to Megan Kelly about that. Seemed to be under the impression that it would be not a good idea. I think it would be a huge mistake for President Trump to choose him because he represents the neocon warmongering establishment of Washington, D.C., which which

stands diametrically opposed to the very policies that President Trump has always stood for, going all the way back to when he ran for president in 2016 through that first term in office and the things that he's talking about wanting to do now. And it would just it would send the wrong message to a lot of folks who are

very concerned about the fact that we are on the brink of war with Russia and China and Iran and North Korea. If Marco Rubio is his vice president, then that is what we will face. And it will cause a lot of people to question what kind of foreign policy will actually be executed. Will it be the one that Trump wants and stands for? Or will it be one that will continue the deep state neocon warmongers who've gotten us into the mess that we are in now? Hmm.

Hmm, pretty interesting. Another appointee is Pete Hegseth, who I'd not heard of before, but he's a former vet and Fox newscaster. Guess which point CNN and MSNBC pundits highlight when commentating on that potential appointment. There's a chance to course correct it, but it would take the new Trump administration going after it really hard. How would they correct it?

Well, first of all, you gotta fire the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and you gotta fire this, I mean, obviously you're gonna bring in a new secretary of defense, but any general that was involved, general, admiral, whatever that was involved in any of the DEI woke shit has gotta go. Either you're in for war fighting and that's it, and that's the only litmus test we care about. You gotta get DEI and CRT out of military academies so you're not training young officers to be baptized in this type of thinking.

And then, you know, whatever the standards, whatever the combat standards were, say, and I don't know, 1995, let's just make those the standards. And as far as recruiting to hire the guy that, you know, did Top Gun Maverick and create some real ads that motivate people to want to serve. And there's lots of other ways in which you could identify who gets promoted and what. But there's an ethos change. I mean, there's a reason we're not people don't want to serve because they don't trust

that their senior leaders are gonna have their best interest in mind in combat. I know there were mistakes made on our tours all over the place, but I at least for the most part had a sense that my senior leaders were committed to the completion of the mission for the right reasons. And maybe there were strategic differences and all that other stuff, and it wasn't always perfect, and that trust is broken.

And you have to reestablish that trust by putting in no-nonsense warfighters in those positions who aren't going to cater to the socially correct garbage. My prayer is that this election is precisely what many people believe it to be, an opportunity to disrupt globalism. Globalism is dependent upon war so that the war machine itself can be fed, so that the military-industrial complex is kept in business, a business that'd be booted out of if the Pentagon could pass on.

an audit if we saw where your money is going and the wars that it's funding, let alone if we were to experience for a moment, as many as you have one way or another, the real horrors of wars, the loss of lives, the loss of innocent lives, the loss of the lives of combatants. This is the month of remembrance where we celebrate and commemorate those that gave their lives that we may enjoy the freedom such as we do enjoy.

enjoy them associated with contemporary life. What many of us want to see now is an administration committed to ending war, ending violence that uses the power of the United States of America to become a diplomatic force in so much as they're even involved in foreign conflict is to bring them to cessation, not profit in from their continuation. We want an administration that

...administrates and governs for the health of ordinary Americans, that to a degree, of course, ensures good relationships with the other nations of the world. Hey, I'm from one of those nations, but stands for true judiciary, for true due process, that stands up to the corrupt legacy media that brings them down, that ensures that across the world there are populist uprisings, that all of the bureaucrats that have seized control of the throat of the great nations of this planet have their grip unprompted,

and their lies undone, that we the people may rise again across the world in a new freedom, that we may be in a position to serve the Lord openly and contently with one another so that we can align with great principles, so that we can live in truth and glory and grace together. What we don't want to see are deep steps.

My prayer is...

he is able to govern in the way that he campaigned. My prayer is that there will be compassion across America and compassion across the world. Let me know in the comments in the chat if you agree with that. I know that you do. If you're watching us on YouTube, remember, turn on the notification bell and subscribe. If you're watching us on Rumble, subscribe to our channel. I know, I know that's a form of acknowledgement, John. I've got you, mate. I've got you. That means I've recognized it and I've understood it. Thank you very much. Now,

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over and join us. You might be thinking, Rob, should there be a camera there? So when Russell's looking at the comments, there's a camera picking up his eyeliner. I don't know what kind of things you'll think when you're watching this. Have a look at it, baby. All right, guys. So we'll see those of you that are members of our Awake and Wonder community in just over a couple of hours. And for the rest of you watching us on Rumble, considering Rumble Premium, considering 1775, considering Rumble more

broadly, I bet. Here's that little token, that obelisk of rumble. We'll be back tomorrow with a brilliant conversation with Robert Malone and Friday with Rudy Giuliani. So we're ending this week with a real bang and some fantastic conversation. Remember, get your comments in and your questions in if you haven't. So we'll be back tomorrow, not with more of the same, but with more of the different. Until then, if you can, stay free.