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Morning Joe Hosts Meet with Hitler...Sorry, Trump, Kamala Paid Oprah $2.5M & RFK vs Vaccines – SF496

2024/11/20
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Key Insights

Why did Joe and Mika Scarborough meet with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago?

They sought to restart communications and find common ground on divisive issues, despite years of portraying Trump as a threat akin to Hitler.

What was the reaction of Megyn Kelly to Joe and Mika Scarborough's meeting with Trump?

Megyn Kelly criticized the meeting, questioning the necessity of cozying up to Trump for the sake of ratings and questioning their journalistic integrity.

Why is Richard Besser, former CDC director, concerned about parental choice in vaccinations?

Besser believes that parental choice undermines public health efforts and could lead to unvaccinated children spreading diseases in communities.

How does Robert Redfield view Bobby Kennedy's stance on vaccines?

Redfield sees Kennedy's skepticism as a call for transparency and honest discussion, making him more reliable rather than less.

What is Nigel Farage's claim about the Southport murders?

Farage asserts that there is a significant cover-up and that the public is not being told the full truth about the case.

Why does Russell Brand believe America is a sick nation?

Brand attributes America's health issues to the food and medications people consume, which are influenced by powerful corporate interests.

What does Russell Brand suggest as a solution to America's health problems?

Brand suggests confronting powerful interests, particularly in the food and pharmaceutical industries, to create a healthier nation.

How does Russell Brand view the relationship between the state and media?

Brand sees a collaboration between state, media, and corporate entities to tightly manage and control public perception of reality.

What does Russell Brand advocate for in terms of freedom and democracy?

Brand advocates for operating on the basis of freedom and democracy, allowing information to be uncensored and vocal opponents of the system to be heard.

What is Russell Brand's personal approach to freedom?

Brand submits to God to avoid inadvertently submitting to worldly influences and to manage mental problems and distractions.

Chapters

The chapter discusses the hypocrisy of Morning Joe hosts meeting with Trump after years of comparing him to Hitler, questioning their journalistic integrity and motives.
  • Morning Joe hosts met with Trump after years of comparing him to Hitler.
  • The hosts' actions raise questions about their journalistic integrity.
  • The chapter explores the implications of their meeting and the broader issue of media bias.

Shownotes Transcript

Hello there, you awakening wonders. Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand. The headlines are this. Adolf Hitler has met with...

Mika and Joe Scarborough from morning not out of Hitler Donald Trump always get those mixed up I don't know why something in my mind made me equate Donald Trump without all yeah, I know what it was It was morning Joe that made me equate Donald Trump with Adolf Hitler by every single day saying he's a lot like Hitler that guy before actually meeting with Hitler But that's not the only thing that's happening in the world. AOC has dropped her

pronouns. This is the falling of the Berlin Wall when it comes to gender fluidity. Once again, we're in a brand new world. Also, Kamala is the front runner for Democrat candidate for 2028 and Ukraine are using long range missiles inside Russia. So all of this stuff is moot because we're

all going to be destroyed in a nuclear apocalypse. If you're watching us in the Rumble chat like Wraith87642 or American Son or Malgie, hello, or Uncle Charlie111, it's good to see you all there. Become an awakened wonder and then you'll be able to join us in a matter of moments at 145 EST, 645 GMT. And remember, I would love PT and Australia in that list as well for my conversation with Jack Posibic. Jack Posibic.

So be it. So the it Jack Paso be it with a Jack Paso be it at 145 for break bread. So join me for that as well. Before we get into the main stories, you know, the apocalypse and all that kind of stuff. If you watch this on YouTube, we'll be there for about 15 minutes. Then we're going to be exclusively streaming on Rumble where we can speak presciently.

We'll be covering the Morning Joe stuff. We're going to be covering the vaccine climb downs of big pharma. And we're going to be looking at censorship in my country, the United Kingdom, even though I right now am in Miami. Let's have a look at British farmers who are preparing for globalist shutdowns of their whole industry by being heavily tooled up. You're watching Sky News today. Still to come, farmers preparing to protest in Westminster as inheritance tax anger grows.

We'll be speaking to Cyril Phan. I've had enough. They've decided to go nuclear. Elon Musk's responding to this viral steal. Can I see the tweets? I've got to read it. So thank you.

Big Mac, Filet-O-Fish, large fries, Elon Quarter Pounder, 10 nuggets, large fries. Which ones do you go for? That was such a fun night. After his assembling for this administration is good. Look at Bobby Kennedy there, just sort of reluctantly holding a McDonald's.

recognizing the nature of what he's got to contend with and deal with. Okay, so New York Times have confirmed that Kamala actually did pay Oprah 2.5 million. Why are we waiting for the confirmation of the New York Times? Do we trust them one iota? Let's have a look. Everyone accused Oprah of getting paid a million must immediately retract because it was actually...

2.5 million. I wonder how many of the people who's, are we, are we, am I in pip now? Like, I wonder how many people who offer those endorsements were actually paid for them. It's undermined the entire thing. Here's Eric Adams on The View saying that ordinary people don't care about the Hitler narrative. Well, neither did Morning Joe ever did. I say let's dismantle the hate. And what you saw in this city, in this election, when you saw a shift

and the city becoming the state becoming redder is because we stopped talking about broken class people issues with mom and pops are afraid. I can't pay my college tuition. Uh, the rent is too damn high. Um, healthcare is too expensive. We stopped talking to every day. New York is in America. When I'm in the street talking to them, they're not asking me, Eric, tell me about, uh,

of fascism. They're talking about finance. They're not talking about Hitler. They're talking about housing. We need to talk to everyday working class people. And we stop doing that. And those are the issues that they are afraid of. They're afraid of the future of their children.

Everyday working class people care about one thing: exactly how like Adolf Hitler is Donald Trump and tell me what are your pronouns? There's nothing else that your Joe Sixpack, blue collar worker, all-American man cares about more than exactly the ways in which Trump is like Hitler.

The main people pushing the Trump-Hitler narrative, I would say, were Morning Joe, weren't they? They were very committed to that idea. And if you actually believe that someone is a genocidal despot who will wage war across the world, then the last thing you want to do is cozy up to them at their golf course.

But Morning Joe have done exactly that, leading us, I would say, to the almost immediate conclusion that they never thought that Donald Trump was like Hitler. They just thought, what can we say that's an effective campaigning tool when the political institutions we support

are not significantly serving the ordinary people of America and are owned by corporate interests, most terrifyingly the military industrial complex which requires perpetual war in order to operate. The only way we can justify supporting a democratic party that sits at the apex or at least administrates on behalf of those at the apex of such systems is by claiming that their opponent is worse. So much worse in fact that they are the equivalent of

The worst person that ever lived and that's Hitler. Well, we're gonna have coffee with Hitler at Mar-a-Lago. Over the past week, Joe and I have heard from so many people, from political leaders to regular citizens, deeply dismayed by several of President-elect Trump's cabinet selections, and they are scared. Last Thursday, we expressed our own concerns on this broadcast and even said we would appreciate the opportunity to speak with the president-elect himself.

On Friday, we were given the opportunity to do just that. What? What? It's almost as if all you care about is ratings. Do you not just care about anything other than ratings? Do you know what rates will? Hitler. So should we have golf with Hitler? Because people watch that stuff, it turns out. That. Joe and I went to Mar-a-Lago to meet personally.

She does look a bit forlorn though, Micah. I met her before I went on that TV program, Morning Show, and I went there in good faith with an open heart, but it turned out that what I experienced there was somewhat indicative of what throbs at the essence of that little institution, a kind of piety and spirit of condemnation, a kind of certainty in yourself and your own judgments and opinions. It doesn't surprise me

that they would go right out on a limb and say, you know, Donald Trump, he's all right. He's like, I don't know, maybe he's a bit of a tycoon and a reality TV star that has an easy touch.

touch, common touch when talking and dealing with normal people. But we prefer the Democratic Party for these reasons, because of these policies. Because that wasn't an argument that was available, they really went hard on the Hitler thing. And now they're in the ludicrous position of saying, you know how we said that guy was Hitler? Well...

We've gone and met with him. Look at Micah there. She looks slightly pale. She has the pallor of a veal calf, seeing its first morn, only to discover it's the very day that it will be slaughtered for some dinner. - To me personally, with President-elect Trump, it was the first time we have seen him in seven years.

Now, we talked about a lot of issues, including... Now, I know this might look like I'm a hypocrite, having spent the last four years telling you, for example, that he was a Nazi and a bastard and a son of a bitch and an asshole, while describing Joe Biden as sharp as a tack.

as a brilliant maverick at the top of his game. I've never known him so sharp when it's quite clear when you watch Joe Biden wandering off into the Amazon burbling and blubbering about nothing in particular that I must live in some delirious state continually saying whatever's necessary in order to make my payments and to make it to sleep at night. But nevertheless, what I've just done now is gone to Mar-a-Lago at the behest

of President-elect Donald Trump in a desperate bid to not have this show canceled. Seeing how legacy media figures across the board are being slashed into the irrelevancy that they deserve, we thought, okay, in one last desperate roll of the dice, we're going to Mar-a-Lago. I'm going to surprise you. I like Donald Trump.

A lot of issues, including abortion, mass deportation, threats of political retribution against political opponents and media outlets. We talked about that a good bit. And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade, that we didn't see eye to eye on.

Oh, they're not gonna see eye to eye. Oh, Donald Trump and Joe Scarborough. This is the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul bout we all wanted. Now what comes as a surprise to us is the breathtaking hypocrisy of anyone, of any institution, broadcaster,

or a human being that would claim for years that Donald Trump was beyond the pale of political conversation, beyond consideration, even in a democracy as a potential president, to hear that within weeks of him winning an election, you're in his garden. Woo!

cooing up at the balcony in a desperate attempt to remain on the television. That's what comes as a surprise. We didn't see eye to eye on a lot of issues, and we told him so. I mean, you'll get no lick, spittle, shoo, shine boy from me. I'll kowtow to no one in my desperate attempts to remain on the television. Is this being streamed? Is this being broadcast? I'm still on the television, ain't I? What we did agree on was to restart communications.

We thought, it's all like the haughtiness and the sort of sense that what they're doing is important. This is so important. I, a person with genitals that will die one day, have gone to a golf course to meet a president who simply, as has been pretty resoundingly proven, doesn't need my approval. My father often spoke with world leaders with whom he and the United States profoundly disagreed.

Yeah, I remember that's how you covered when Tucker went to meet Putin, right? You would, that's what you said. You were like, my father often met with world leaders with whom he profoundly disagreed. Oh no, you didn't, did you? You said, Tucker shouldn't be in there. Putin's a murderer. Putin's a war criminal. This is a desperate attempt to reframe a reality that no longer needs him. Profoundly disagreed. That's a task shared by reporters and commentators alike. We had not

- Spoken to President Trump since March of 20-- - Looking up to the left, it must have been March. Spring was in the air and I knew that we were in Nuremberg actually and the sound of jackboots pounding on the sidewalk was all we could hear.

I met with him under a red, white and black swirl of swastikas. I remember thinking, what's this guy planning? March of 2020, other than a personal call Joe made to Trump on the morning after the attempt on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. I did. I mean, I've always believed some things are transcendent of politics. Firstly, when there's an assassination attempt. And secondly, my hair gel. Butler, Pennsylvania.

In this meeting, President Trump was cheerful, he was upbeat, he seemed interested. He was cheerful, he was vulnerable, he was weak. He was licking up the remnants of a Big Mac from his own legs. I remember thinking, I'm better than you, I'm better than everyone. Seemed interested in finding common ground with Democrats on some of the most divisive issues. And for the conversation that took place before this was streamed, broadcast, whatever they call it these days,

was this, "Oh no, what are we gonna do? We've spent the last four years, eight years, however long it's been, saying that Trump is Hitler. Now we're gonna have to go and meet him because we no longer have a centrifugal and dominant position in the media landscape. We are peripheral and could be about to fall over that periphery into the abyss." Well, what if we sort of say we were on the phone with him after Butler, Pennsylvania?

What if I say my dad spent hours on the phone to Stalin? He brushed his mustache. He combed his mustache.

with a knit comb. - divisive issues. And for those asking why we would go speak to the president-elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I-- - It's not like you're a pairing with Trump and the forthcoming Trump administration. And we don't need an answer to that question. We know what the answer is. It's a desperate attempt to avoid obsolescence. - I would ask back, why wouldn't we?

Now, why wouldn't we? The show could get canceled. You're saying now what you should have been saying during the entire campaign. Why wouldn't we? Five years of political warfare has deeply divided Washington and the country. We have been as clear as we know how in expressing our deep concerns about President Trump's actions and words in the coarsening of public debate. But for nearly 80 million Americans...

election denialism, public trials, and January 6th were not as important as the issues that moved them to send Donald Trump back to the White House with their vote. Joe and I realized it's time to do something different. And that starts with... Something different would be some humility and some transparency. Different. And that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.

Okay, well that's amazing. We can actually see some of it happening. Oh no, it's not happened yet. This is just the prelude. It's a prelude. They're building up to it. It's happening on Friday.

Like people in the Rumble chat, absolute fucking morons. But Cayman, she makes me sick. Killer gorilla, resting smirk face, disgusting human beings. Why is she wearing that brown shirt? She's clearly a brown shirt Nazi. I did think that as well, because before the SS were called that, they were known as the brown shirts. So who's the real Nazi now? You better believe if Trump wore a brown shirt like that, Michael would be. And look, look at that shirt.

That's a clear indication. Anyway, let's have a look at Megyn Kelly reacting to this. As for us, we also let him know that we will continue to speak truth to power and push back. What's this? Has it already happened, the interview? Where are we in the timeline? Look.

It says in this thing, spent 90 minutes kissing Trump's ring. So it's already happened and they're going to stream it soon. I would guess. All right, here's the view. Angry. They're angry. The viewer angry. The bottom line is that America needs a free press that is willing to speak truth to power right now more than ever. And...

I think that we have to be very clear-eyed when we think about the president-elect and cover the president-elect. And I don't think you need to sit down for 90 minutes at Mar-a-Lago and kiss his ring to be able to speak truth

and to be able to cover a story. So maybe they're not journalists. Speaking truth was never the objective. Speaking hysterically has always been the objective. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. They had to come up with a way of condemning Donald Trump. And now it's been proven that that was all hysteria, hyperbole, and madness. It was completely ineffective. Most people, literally most people, didn't buy into it and believe it. They've got to talk to their remaining audience who are like, what?

So you're gonna have to have him on your shows and your channels if you want to survive. Yeah, that's right because we're a business. We're a business and we're in the business of taking adverts. We're in the business of being owned by a massive conglomeration. We're in the business of doing what we're told. So now we're gonna have to contort ourselves into some new shape that makes sense of a reality where we're gonna cling on to our shows for as long as possible before hopefully

fading into some delicious obscurity. Not journalists in the true sense. Maybe they're saying that they're opinion general, uh, journalists. But we have to remember that Trump is the guy who ushered in the era of fake news. He didn't usher in the era of fake news. He pointed out that a lot of news was unreliable and fake.

And the reason that Maxim has stuck and entered into common parlance a delicious neologism that it is, is because we all recognized it to be true. So then they had to create the categories of misinformation, malinformation, and disinformation to keep up with and to sort of make sound more academic and more realistic. The idea that there's certain types of information you can trust and certain types of information you can't trust, and their preference would be

that you trust information that's coming from them and supports their agenda. He is the guy who ushered in alternative facts. He is the guy who attacked three black female journalists. He's the guy that revoked Jim Acosta's press credentials for asking him a question. And so I think that this president-elect,

I hate to say it, would like nothing more than to have only Fox News cover him, would like nothing more than a state-sponsored media. I don't think he cares, actually. And I think part of the problem was the preceding globalist bureaucracy masquerading under the thin veneer of social justice ideas that

easy to talk about, difficult to execute and useful for distracting us from widespread corruption and affiliation with powerful globalist corporate entities. They were the people that were trying to have total control over the media. They were the people that were paying millions of dollars for celebrity endorsements. They were the people that participated in the mass censorship of true stories during the pandemic period.

They're the people that have just sanctioned missiles being used inside of Russia by Ukraine that certainly exacerbates an already fragile geopolitical situation. Donald Trump isn't the problem. Donald Trump is, even if you want to take the meanest possible analysis, is a symptom of problems that they have created and people that are optimistic believe they use the solution plainly. That's why he's been elected with such a powerful mandate. And no

above all else, how seriously these people take themselves and their opinions. The View is meant to be a lighthearted daytime show. I don't know how everything got so overtly and ludicrously politicized. Morning Joe, they've named it after like coffee, right? Here's your morning, Joe. It's part of your day. Imagine if when you took your cup of coffee, it started telling you it was

better than you and you aren't in a position to recognize whether something's true or false and whether or not someone's Hitler or not and why they're now friends with Hitler and cozying up on the golf club and then claiming it's out of journalistic integrity. The view is meant to be breezy. Hey, are you at home in the daytime with your kids or for some other reason? Well, why don't you flick this on and listen to us discuss some banality quite lightly. When did everyone start getting the idea that they had such

fundamental offerings conjured up out of the dead culture that they're trying to defibrillate into meaningfulness when it's been completely designed to fulfill the opposite of meaning, to create environments where it's impossible to locate meaning other than through the pursuit of pleasure, identification with

dumb products. Their dumb little world just got the shock it deserved. They're waking up as a result of that shock and trying to sort of desperately reframe what happened last night like a drunk. Oh, sorry, well, what it was, is there vomit on the bedspread? Is there blood on my socks? Well, what happened was I was trying to protect you from Hitler.

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If you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to be with you for another 30 seconds. Start the 30 second countdown, Isaac. In fact, we're going to be after that talking about vaccines and RFK. Former CDC director Richard Besser has told CNN that the idea that receiving vaccines will be a parental choice scares him. Why should you be choosing what the government injects into your children? It's not like recently the government injected some stuff into your children that's needlessly harmed them and potentially didn't protect them at all.

all is it? Remember, click the link in the description because for the rest of the show I'll be speaking a lot more freely and I've got a lot to say, baby. Click that link. Get on over here. Remember, in about an hour after this you can join me for the Jack Posobiec. A lot of people think there's only one syllable at the end. Posobiec.

American Sun 76, Pokemon Go. Vixen 6 Morning All. American Sun 76, toilet paper. Don't know what you mean by that. I don't know why you're saying that. I'm struggling for some context to that. Tumble to Rumble says Matt James 288. Nice. That's catchy. That's catchy. If you're watching in the Awaken Wonders locals chat, does that need updating? It looks like it. Let me have a look. Then remember, we'll be with Jack.

in a matter of moments. Get over here. I agree. No more view. Yeah, you had enough of that stuff. All right, what else we got? Tell me what you want to see next. You want to see me talking about vaccines and RFK, UK censorship,

Or do you want to see me talking or Joe Rogan guaranteeing that Biden voted for Trump? One, vaccines, RFK. Two, UK censorship. Three, Joe Rogan guaranteeing that Joe Biden voted for Donald Trump. Let me know. Let me know what you fancy. The first one to get to 10, I'll do. Is that rumble chat moving?

Let me know. 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. Oh my god, that's like, you're messing with my head. That's going in sequence, 1, 2, 3. It's hard to do. I'm going to start with RFK then. I'm going to start with that. It looks like you're, it's very broad. You're all interested in all this stuff. Okay. Alright, so let me tell you the loose framing for this.

CDC director Richard Besser says that, you know, he doesn't want parents. That's people who have grown children in their belly from their ovum and sperm and then raised them, deciding what gets injected into them. Jen Psaki panics when she's reminded that the current secretary of health and human services is not a doctor either. That's what people are saying. Bobby Kane, he's not a doctor. And former CDC director Robert Redfield says RFK's question of vaccines making more science oriented than a lot of his critics.

During the pandemic, we learned that science had become a new orthodoxy. What I mean by that is they were making claims that were not undergirded by empiricism and observable evidence. They were making ideological claims. Shut up. You're not a doctor. The medical establishment was placed at the heart of our culture. Science was placed at the heart of our culture. God was cast to the sidelines with no individual connection to God.

you are free to be told what to do by whoever tells you that they are your God now. Well, it looks like the orthodoxy has taken a pretty significant blow. Of course, we all believe in science, the process by which we find out previously indeterminate truths through processes of clinical trials, observed evidence. But part of a...

rigorous scientific process would include who paid for those experiments, who benefits from those experiments, why are these experiments like, you know, vitamin D or ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine experiments not taking place? Is it to do with money? Is it to do with power? Real science is what we want and to conduct real science you need real principles. Bobby Kennedy,

has real principles. That's why the establishment is working so hard to destroy him before he takes office. Let's have a look. First of all, former acting CDC director Richard Besser saying that children's vaccines should be issued by the state and any parents that attempt to get in the way should themselves be

- I don't know, is there some sort of vaccine available that makes you sort of very tired and makes your heart weaker? They should be given that. If there is one, I'm not saying there is one. - The idea that receiving vaccines would be parental choice scares me. One of the things that we have in America- - Good that, because it's just a few words, but it's the revelation that underneath their systems of government and control are assumptions such as you are stupid.

You are stupid. That's why we need the ability to censor because you can't decide truth from fiction. You are stupid. You can't decide whether or not your children require a particular medication. So we should decide for you. You are stupid and you are not valuable and human beings are fundamentally not valuable. There's a lot of assumptions based into that perspective right there, just in a few words. What we have in America is a contract between each other.

And an important part of that in public health is vaccination. I vaccinate my children to protect them, but also to protect other people's children. You know, sending a child to school, you need to have that confidence that the child sitting next to them isn't going to give them measles or whooping cough because their parent decided that they didn't want to get their child vaccinated because they're hearing all of this misinformation. Well, one thing we could do.

is have some publicly available clinical trials to look at when it comes to the efficacy of all these vaccines. One thing we could do is look at any examples where big pharmaceutical companies have behaved deplorably. You wouldn't want to find out, for example, that Johnson & Johnson settled out of court for hundreds of millions because baby powder was causing cancer, allegedly, never proven, didn't go to court. Or

wouldn't want to find out that there was an opioid crisis that was needlessly induced because people put profits ahead of the value of human life. And if you did have access to that information, if during the pandemic you also found that Pfizer's files were going to be sealed for 75 years, that they never clinically trialed for transmission, that Moderna had extraordinary connections to government and are even now still spending money to censor and control the voices of significant online personalities, you would have to

the question whether or not you would trust them. So before we get to the bit where we're judging parents who are cynical and skeptical about big pharma who exist only, I would say, to make profits and maybe almost as an inadvertent side effect may occasionally come up with useful products, before we get to the point of attacking parents, let's ensure that we're not institutionally corrupt. And the kind of man you need to undertake that investigation is

Bobby Kennedy. So you better get on and smear that dude or assassinate him, otherwise there's some changes coming. We cannot. What if that child had an immune problem and they're in there and their children who decided not to be vaccinated? We vaccinate our kids because we care about our children, our families, and our community.

Yeah, that's right. We care about our families and our community. Why is that? Is there some inherent value in people? Were people made in someone or some things likeness? Is there a reason for us to be ethical? Is there a set of values that we can rely on? Is there an investigation that could be undertaken there? And is the person to undertake that investigation former White House press secretary, current MSNBC or CNN? They all look the same to me. Pundit Jen Psaki. Let's get into her perspective on

We have seen nominations before from presidents of both parties where there have been ethical and substantive issues. Let's not forget, we had a nominee for HHS secretary in this administration who had never dealt with health care before being nominated. So I think that the notion that I'm not look, I'm not here to defend. He was the attorney general for the state of California. This is a little bit of a difference. He experienced doing health care companies, but not anything to do with health care.

Wait, no, hang on a second. As an Englishman, I reserve the right to drink in this way. Now, Robert Redfield used to work at, was it the CDC or the NIH? It was the CDC. And I met that Robert Redfield briefly. He'll come on the show, by the way. We should put him down as a guest. He'd be a good guest. And he has pointed out that Bobby Kennedy's skepticism actually makes him more

reliable and useful, not less. Indeed, when dealing with corruption, skepticism is a pretty good utility. Do you think we should be worried at all? Like, if he gets confirmed... Should we? Can we worry? Can we? Should we? ...confirmed that he could sort of start a real no-vaccine culture and put that into public policy?

No, Brian, I don't think that. I mean, I'm probably one of the biggest advocates for vaccine. You mentioned that I when I was CDC director, I would say that I think vaccines are the greatest gift of science to modern medicine. And I still believe that Kennedy's not anti-vaccine. What Kennedy is about is transparency about vaccine, honest discussion about vaccines, asking for the data. Because he's not anti-vaccine, he's pro-transparency.

We know that that's a perfectly reasonable position. Pro-transparency, what a great position. A position that could be mapped onto many government departments. Now because the media

and the sources and resources from which the media get their information know that we'd be sympathetic to that. Well, transparency, that's a good thing. Being skeptical and having conversations, that's a good thing, right? Because they know that you'd agree with that. What they have to do is amplify the charge to Kennedy and say, he's an anti-vaxxer, he's a lunatic. In the same way that they have to tell you that Trump is Hitler so that you don't vote for Trump, how did that go for them? They have to say that Kennedy is a lunatic, a kook. He's

He's strapped a whale to his head. He's got a worm that lives in his mind.

bear in Central Park with the tip of his dick. Don't let him be in charge of your kid's medicine. When in fact, all he's actually done is said, should we just have an honest conversation and have access to the data? Their lies are so ludicrous that in the end, it's inevitable that they become exposed. And when they're exposed, they try to repo. The only criticism I have of Robert Redfield is that you should change the angle on your laptop. Asking for the data to show that these vaccines are safe and

And they're efficacious. And the mere question of asking what's the data for safety, many of his detractors say, okay, well, you're anti-vax. No, just show me the safety data. Show me the efficacy data. I have high confidence that Kennedy is going to be successful.

a strong supporter of transparency on vaccines. And where the vaccine data shows that they're efficacious and a benefit to the American public, he will promote them. I think, Brian, we need transformational change. Right now, we've created over the last 20, 30 years, we've developed a disease system. We need to make a health system.

And when Kennedy says he wants to help make America healthy again, when I was CDC director, one of the challenges was we lost about 1.2 million people died of COVID. Other countries like Taiwan lost less than 10,000 people. Why did we lose so many people? We lost so many people. Because our people are unhealthy.

We're a sick nation. And Kennedy is really committed to making us healthy again. And I do agree with you. We should all get behind him. Making a healthy America is not a partisan issue. We ought to get behind him and help him manage.

If you love science so much, why stop the investigation there? America is a sick nation. Why is America a sick nation? What are the conditions that make America a sick nation? Are American people fundamentally weak when they come from such a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds? That doesn't make sense. So it's not genetic. All right. So it must be their conditions.

Well, what is it? Is it the air? Is it the plants that's making America sick? No, it can't be that. That doesn't make sense, does it? Because not all Americans are sick. Right, let's have a look at it then. Is it the food that they're eating? Yeah, it's the food they're eating. Is it the medication?

they're taking, yes, the medications they're taking. So what is it that's creating those conditions? It can't be weak and vulnerable things because weak and vulnerable things by definition don't have control of circumstances. So it must be powerful things. What could those powerful things be? Might they be corporations and institutions? Might they in particular be the relationship between

big food and institutions of government. Might you find when you look at the nature of government that there are deep seated and entrenched individuals that can't be fired even when a new administration is voted in? Hmm, might we find that there are donations and lobbying that take place that come out of food industry that prevent it from being regulated? Might you even find that some of the regulatory bodies are themselves funded by the very corporations that they're meant to be regulating?

as happens within Big Pharma by the FDA that receive at least 50% of their funding from the Big Pharma companies that they regulate when it comes to matters of clinical trialing and patenting new medications, at least. So what we're talking about are institutional problems. Why is America sick?

because of powerful interests. What would make America healthy again? Taking on and confronting those powerful interests. How will that be possible unless you have a government that has a mandate to serve the interests of ordinary people and leaders that are willing to take on these entrenched bureaucratic policies

classes of people and powerful globalist corporations. And hopefully, in Trump and Bobby Kennedy, we have that. But that's just what I think. Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat. What an exciting time this could potentially be. In which ways do you imagine that the CDC and Big Food and Big Pharma are

are like the blob they are, morphing and reforming in order to keep their grip upon the levers of power. There will be myriad ways in which they are trying to take control, and that is what we're going to have to be alert to. This might not be a perfect administration coming in January, but what you can see pretty clearly is that the establishment are terrified. That's why Jen Psaki is sort of panicking about whether or not former presidents

of the health institutions were themselves doctors. That's why you've got former heads of the CDC saying, "Oh, it's terrifying the idea that parents should make choices for their children's health themselves." What an outrageous position to undertake. And from where would you get the ethical undergirding and confidence necessary to oppose those kind of gargantuan tyrants? I suppose if you had a set of spiritual principles, that's why you should watch "Break Bread"

our live streamed show where we have Christian conversations with the likes of Tucker Carlson, my teacher, Jay John, and indeed, Jack. Come on, I can do this.

I interviewed this incredible couple, absolutely amazing.

And someone murdered their son and they met the murderer and they embraced him, hugged him and forgave him. I mean, can you imagine that? That man had murdered their son, but they forgave him and they talked about.

the effect it had on their lives and on the effect it had on that man's life. It completely transformed him.

Jack Posobiec will be with us in about an hour, I think. So if you're watching us in the Awake and Wonder chats, I'm talking to you, Jim Irfsey and The Red and all you guys, then join us. And if you're in the Rumble chat right now, I'm talking to you, Kenzie67 and Ibsum and Jcup21. Get over and join us. Sensitive hearts, I hope you all stay. You loved the conversation with J. John, did you? That's not Christian, says Galaho9. Like first degree murder, that's a bit much. Embrace it. A lot of people having trouble with the concept of forgiveness.

Forgiveness is a frequency. Like it says in the Lord's Prayer, forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Not because it's a transaction. I give you forgiveness. You give me forgiveness. No, because it's a frequency.

If we live on the frequency of forgiveness, which I find very, very hard to do, it's like a living thing. You live in a state of being forgiven and of forgiving. So you're not like a rigid thing buttressing up against the apparently external objects of this world. You are in a flow state of love and acceptance. It ain't easy. And the reason you need God to come to earth in human form to explain it to you is because it's beyond what's possible for mere human beings.

It's beyond what's possible for mere human beings. It's beyond what's possible for us. I can forgive reality, but not its handlers, says Say Hub. Yeah, it's not easy to forgive, man. I don't like forgiving people. I want vengeance. I want vengeance. There's a lot of people I want vengeance, but we can't live like that, guys. It's no good.

We must do what he says. Why don't we do what he says? You know when people say there's no guidebook? There is a guidebook. There's a guidebook. It tells you exactly what we're supposed to do. All we've got to do is do it. It's not that hard. Well, actually it is. It's near impossible. But nevertheless, we have to do that. West Chesley Monthly says, No, Russell, I don't have a problem with the concept of forgiveness. I have a problem with people selling their religion and the CliffsNotes of their son's murder.

picturing them hugging the guy as I need the rest of that Westchester monthly I have a problem with people selling religion and the cliffs notes of their son's murder look what I think I sort of understand we're saying but who's selling their religion who's selling their religion here who is selling it like what's what's what's being offered and for

How much? There's nothing for sale. You've got the same access to God as I've got. There's no seniority. There's no hierarchy here. You don't need me for access to God. Of course you don't. Not vengeance, Russell. Justice. Okay. So, mad lad.

Who's going to be in charge of that justice? Human beings? Because currently, sitting at the top of the hierarchies of the judiciary are plainly human beings making their rules. In some cases, it's determined by the Abrahamic faith, some Mosaic law, Deuteronomic

law, but people have taken some giant jumps and leaps. That's why it's interesting when people say from now on we want you to use these words, not these words. And that's why it's interesting when AOC rolls back the pronouns and is like, oh yeah, we're not doing this anymore. That was a fad. It was a fad. Of course people that are trans should be respected. We've already got a principle for that. Kindness and love. There's already a principle for that. You don't need a new one that's going via human beings so they can use it in slow ways to create conflict, you know?

half-assed ranch. That's a strange hypothesis that you've come up with there, you lunatic. You absolute lunatics, all of you. All right. Okay. Now, a lot of you want to see, I asked you a minute ago about the stories in the UK and you're interested in it. So, the United Kingdom, the country I'm from, that gave us the Magna Carta, that gave you your language, that may yet give the world a contribution to emergent freedom is under attack.

attack. People are being jailed for social media posts. There are stories in the press, high profile stories about the murder of children where certain facts are being obscured from the public. Elsewhere in my country, there are amplifications, exaggerations and downright lies when it comes to using the media and judiciary in concord with one another to create control. So has the UK become a totalitarian state?

Is the UK using migration to bring about disruption? And what exactly went on with the murder of those children in the north of England earlier this year? Terrible, tragic story. And how are we being lied to? Nigel Farage says he has access to information that most of us don't have when it comes to that story. Nigel Farage is the leader of a nationalist and populist party.

British party that did better than expected in the last election. And Nigel Farage, whether you like him or not, certainly was the engineer and architect of the Brexit victory, which was concurrent with Trump 2016 as a moment where people realized they can't control the people using legacy media in the way that they once could. So he's a significant figure. Now, whilst your country goes for his reawakening and renaissance through MAGA, and whilst it goes for his recriminations and doubt, trying to work out

Whether Trump's Hitler or not, even Joe Scarborough of Morning Joe seems to have doubts about that. Now, the UK is going through its own crisis. Winston Marshall, if you haven't heard of him, he's a popular British YouTuber who was formerly in the band Mumford and Son, was on Greg Gutfield talking about people being jailed for social media posts. Let's have a look at that to kick us off on this subject. A week ago, my lawyer back home called me up and said two of your...

tweets are technically illegal. You could be arrested when you return. That's not a joke. They've been clearing out the prisons to put in people now for literally Facebook memes. There's someone in prison right now. They cleared out the prisons, by the way, and actual offenders, criminal, violent offenders, one person re-offended

the day he left. There's one guy in prison for a Facebook meeting for three months. There's one woman who's doing two and a half years for a tweet, right? Free speech is in utter peril. It's a disgrace. It's not just England. It's the whole of Europe. It's unbelievably concerning. What are you in here for, mate? Well, I, uh...

I don't know why I done it really, I've been out drinking. I posted some pretty stupid tweets. But I come from a tweet family, see? Me old dad before me, he used to post tweets as well. We're one of the old East End tweet families. Me old granddad, he was posting tweets to the craze. And yeah, we used to meet up with the New Jersey tweeters.

Crime syndicates and tweeters from across the world tweeting each other. Senseless. Of course, Al Capone, he was doing tweets during the prohibition era. That's where he made his bones. They would make tweets in the bathtub then. Get a lot of different bleach and that. He makes the moonshine tweets. Just tweet them out like that. Oh, dark. Here's Elon posting on that.

Britain is turning into a police state. And that often leads to populism and new and popular, well done, Isaac, and new and popular leaders that the establishment don't like. This is Nigel Farage, a person with whom I have a long and colorful history of conflict. And let's see what he's got to say about the Southport murders. Three little girls got murdered at a Taylor Swift-themed party. It was terrible. It was brutal. The kid that did it

was the son of migrants. Initially, there were untrue posts about the kid being a Muslim and it sort of stoked existing tensions in the UK between working class people of all colours and religions actually and presumed migrant communities. Now those posts were incorrect

and were wrong. But that doesn't take away the fact that there's a lot of tension in the UK and that a lot of people, whether they're right or wrong about it, want changes when it comes to their nation's immigration policies and inner democracy. I suppose they'd be offered a referendum or a vote on that. Would they? You let me know in the comments and the chat.

Anyway, now it seems that there are still key details about this story being held back and controlled. Certainly that's what Nigel Farage says. There are things that we're not being told. Now because of X, you'll be able to go on X now and look at it and work out what it is. And you'll probably be able to look in the chat, in the Rumble chat. You'll be able to post it all. People are already bringing up the name of Tommy Robinson, for example. People are saying Freedom Tina Peters. I don't know, there's an American flower I don't actually know.

who she is. A lot of people are saying that Keir Starmer, two-tier Keir Starmer, the farmer-harmer. That's a good rhyme. Well done. Well done, Plant Shield. Okay, well, let's have a look at what Farage is saying about all this. On Southport, all I can say to you right now is I know a hell of a lot more than the British public know. A hell of a lot more. I've been completely silenced.

I dared the day after Southport to do a video to say, can we please know who this man is? Was he known to the authorities? Why do I feel we're not being told the truth? The level of demonization I came under for that from both front benches was astonishing. From media commentators, um,

demonization on a level that I'd never even experienced. Now I'm told by the Speaker of the House of Commons, I can't ask questions about it in the House of Commons. Parliamentary privilege is out of the window. Even rumors today that the court case, which is due in January, every effort is being made to defer it. Right? Yeah, this is what's going on. We are witnessing one of the biggest cover-ups

we've ever seen in our lives. And I won't say any more than that. I genuinely would never wish to be in contempt of court. I have respect for our legal system. It's not perfect, but it's a damn sight better than most of the rest of the world. Hmm. That's pretty fascinating, isn't it? Because whilst our countries are very different, the United States and the UK, there are clear corollaries when it comes to our expectations of our politicians and our justice systems. Clearly, there are relationships between deep state entities in your country and my country.

Jen Psaki, no, Karine Jean-Pierre bemoaned the fall of the Five Eyes. No, Rachel Maddow, it was Rachel Maddow. Rachel Maddow bemoaned the fall of the Five Eyes that would likely be concomitant with the rise of a second Donald Trump presidency. The Five Eyes being the agencies that Edward Snowden exposed were collaborating on domestic spying to get round laws that prevent such things.

Now it's become increasingly difficult to repress information that belongs in the public domain. Once again, there is the assumption that you can't be given information on the basis that it's true. You should be given information on the basis as to whether it's convenient for the state or the powerful...

for you to have that information. Whether that's medications you might be giving to yourself and to your children, whether it's information that might change the way you see the state's power and the judiciary. What we're experiencing more broadly, and as we've told you pretty much every day for as long as we've been doing this show on Rumble, thanks for the free speech that we enjoy here, is that there's a collaboration between the state and the media, global bureaucratic entities,

and corporate entities to ensure that reality and our perception of reality, more importantly, is tightly managed and controlled. That's why during the pandemic, people couldn't talk about vaccine injuries. That's why during the pandemic, there were widespread protests

almost immersive media campaigns telling you to take certain medications. And that's why even at the moral and social cultural level, people were shamed if they didn't want to take that medication. Now we're seeing that what was revealed during the pandemic was

essentially the paradigm for how those institutions collaborate, or you could say conspire, when it comes to control. They will ensure that you're only given certain bits of information. They will conceal other information. If people are too outspoken and attack them and their interests, those people will be smeared and brought down. Take Nigel Farage, who's not a person I agree with on every single subject in the world. He had his bank closed down. We're at

at a point where technology can be used to create individual and therefore potentially social and cultural freedom, or it can be used to create mass centralized control. The way that crises play out in our civilization these days

usually legitimizes further central control. There's a pandemic. We need everyone to carry a vaccine passport. There's an ecological crisis. We need everyone to stay inside their homes or to pay some additional punitive tax.

You will notice that the measures and solutions proposed for these global crises and problems are never punitive to powerful interests. In fact, as we've observed many times on this show, whenever there is a crisis, the crisis appears to be beneficial to very powerful institutions and interests. The pandemic was

was very profitable to some beneficial to governments with their abilities to regulate and control wars which are terribly detrimental if you happen to be a ukrainian living in one of the war zones or a russian person conscripted or merely fighting in the conflict are beneficial not only to black rock but also to the military industrial complex and to nato nato are pretty keen for this war to continue it seems joe biden recently sanctioned further attacks within their territory so

We've got to ask ourselves some pretty simple questions. Who do we trust? Who don't we trust? Do we want information to be censored? Do we want vocal opponents of the system to be destroyed? Or do we want to operate on the basis of freedom and democracy? You know freedom, don't you? We say it every day on this show, stay free. Freedom is part of who we are. Now, I would let you know that personally,

I freely and of my own volition submit to God so that I don't inadvertently submit to worldliness, wanting to worship the culture. Mental problems like my tendency to just go crazy inside my own mind, which is talked about in scripture a lot as kind of influence of the devil. Or the flesh, the way that drives and compulsions can make us pursue things that are just dumb and stupid distractions.

The freedom to submit is what Jesus Christ demonstrated. The most powerful entity that's ever lived on this planet spoke not under trial and complained hardly when nailed to the cross, other than saying, you know, this is a pretty hard thing to live with.

So the power to submit is the height of all sovereignty and power. But that's a sort of a power that we can only access individually, not a power that's imposed from above. But that's just what I think. Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat. If you're watching this on YouTube, remember, turn on the notification bell and subscribe to our channel. Also, if you're not an awakened wonder yet, become an awakened wonder and you can join me for my conversation with Jack Posobiec,

in a minute on break bread. So stay with us, pride folks. Oh man, Ezekiel, these bones shall live. That was my reading today. Did you have that reading today? That's weird. Shall these bones live? Why are you bringing that up? Why are you bringing that up? I read about that today. Russell needs to start meditating. Get out of your mind. I meditate every day, you lunatic, on the holy word. All right, we can't make this show without the contributions of our commercial partners. Here's a message now from Rumble Premium. The war against free speech continues.

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What's the time? I want to like the amount of time between now and when it starts. So in 45 minutes, that's good. If you could get that into the script level, that'd be amazing. So in 45 minutes, you lot, I'm talking to you, True Chimera and Alpine Sweet and you, Dean SNJ in the Rumble chat and you pulling the strings.

I don't avoid Israel and Gaza. I have an absolute position of end all war, end all violence and end all interests that perpetuate war. If you want to come and join me in break bread for Jack Posobiec, it'll be a good conversation. Get over Captain Sire. Step lightly. Stay free. I only watch free streaming. Yeah, I feel you, Dean SNJ. It's hard and it's keep coughing up more money for stuff.

All right, but yous lot like Alpine Sweet, Pride, Faults, Freedom Within 28. We'll be back in 45 minutes at, I think the time will be the EST 145 PST. What would it be? In Australia, what would it be? 545 PST, or did we say PT? What time is it in Australia? You're Australian, aren't you? Sensitive hearts. Persobic. Yeah, that's a good spelling of it.

Yeah, like for me, I need things. It's weird, isn't it? That's the way my disc looks. 10.45 in Cali. Thank you. PT, Beth in Wonderland. Thank you, you lot. 2.45 in Perth, Jim Earthsea. All right, you lot. I'll see you in a minute. Plus, we'll be back with another show. What is tomorrow? Wednesday. We'll be back with another show tomorrow. I'll see you then. In the meantime, if you can, stay free.