God’s Voice Over My Feelings | Girls Gone Bible
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What's up, babe? What's up? What's up? Should we? Oh, hi. I'm, you would think after all this time, it is ridiculous. We

We come in here and I swear it's like everything. It's like the first time wherever I know. Like we're not two best friends that are just sitting and talking. Hi, guys. I'm Ari. And I'm Ange. And this is Girls Gone Bible. We're a faith-based podcast and we talk about...

Everything from mental health to relationships to everyday life. Specifically, we talk about Jesus in the Bible. We love Jesus. He saved our lives. He changed our lives. We always say, come as you are, just don't stay that way. And we sure aren't staying that way, huh, Anne? I've changed so much that it's rocked my world. Sometimes we revert, but we all

Go watch our backsliding episode. It's a process for all of us. We're in this together. What's up, GGB? We love you so much. We miss you guys.

We love you. The response to Socrates' episode, can we talk about it? Talk about it. I had no idea. Like, I knew people were going to love Socrates, but I didn't know that they were going to. It's as if, like, everybody had such a close, like, attachment to him. Yeah. People were saying they were crying from the beginning to the end of the episode. Yeah, because you have—this is—

The biggest part of your testimony is him. And it's like, it's so beautiful because now they finally got to put a name to the, got to,

They finally got to put a name to the face. Yeah. And he's so pure and so cute. I love Sucka. I love him so much. And everyone just is like, he looks exactly like what you thought he would look like. My favorite thing was his outfit. I loved his outfit so much. I wish he brought the shafar. He did. Why didn't we have him play the shafar in the... The horn? Yeah. It's called the shafar. Why didn't we?

When he pulls out that shafar, I die. How was your week? It was so good. But can I hear about yours first? Sure. You were in Italy. Tell me about it. Italy was amazing. I got to literally eat croissants and pasta from morning, noon to night. Like, that's all I did was eat.

And I didn't realize how much – like there's nothing better than coming back to America. Like I love where I live even though I really realized how much we're getting poisoned with the food here. I know. I come home. I eat a meal. I was just telling Angela this today. I come home. I go and get a meal.

I get so sick because it's the first time that I'm eating like the oils and the processed food. The preservatives. Yeah, the preservatives. And it's just crazy, like the stuff they're putting in this food. And so I'm really picky with my food. I share that with you guys a lot, but-

Now I'm just like I'm in this place where I'm going to cook everything with my own oils. You have to be so careful what you eat because that's why so many people in America are getting cancer and getting sick. It's because of the food and the meats and the over process. It's just it's insane. Like it was so nice just to be able to go there and eat whatever I want and not have to worry about it.

And you said you got sick the first night. I got sick. You went to Erewhon, got the healthiest possible meal of all time, and you still got sick. And I felt sick.

That's crazy. The same thing happened to me. I went to Albania for the first time and I legitimately was eating probably like pounds and pounds of meats and fruit and just like fish and all this different stuff. And I had never felt better. I was very pleased. Like it was, I felt so good. I come back the first day, make such a healthy, make like chicken and carrots. And I was like,

just like inflammation throughout my whole body in the first meal that I had and I was like this is so sad it's really bad by the way sorry to cut you off what's up I make friends with one this one guy in Italy and guess who he is guess who it is who an Albini guy no how do you not tell me

I totally forgot. He's Albanian, the best guy ever. He goes, are you kidding? We're family. I'll drive you two hours to the airport. He drives me two hours to us to the airport. I know, I know. We could have gone. I know. I don't condone this, but I just, you know. Yeah, I'm in the airport. I see this guy where Jesus had. I go,

your hat I'm like Jesus isn't he just the best he goes my name's Jesus it's my name dead I'm dead oh okay sorry my friend G's laughing at me that's so good Jesus I love your

I was like, Jesus, it's so nice to see that. He goes, my name's Azuz. So good. Yeah, and then I went to the Elevation concert. It was amazing. I had a full circle moment because you guys remember it was the second episode. I said, everybody should go and listen to Stephen Furlick. He's the best. I'm calling him Stephen Furlick. Anyways, he went up and did a message and...

I was just looking at him and I'm like, because when I first started my journey, when I didn't know anything about pastors, I found him on Instagram. So I would just watch him for hours. And like the worst heartbreak of like when I was at the bottom, so heartbroken, I would just watch him and just fall asleep to him. And he was like curing me, you know? Wow. And so I'm sitting there.

him preach and I'm sitting there and I'm in my most healed, healthiest. I'm so happy. I have so much joy and I'm just watching him. I'm thinking, wow, I can't believe this. I can't believe I'm sitting so close to him, watching him preach. And I'm in this new version of myself and how much I've come, like how far I've come, how much I'm healed from where I was two years ago. And I just have one of those moments of being like, just don't give up.

Wow. Wow. Don't give up like that heartbreak or whatever you're going through. It might be so hard right now and you feel like you're not going to make it through, but you just wait to see what God's going to do through you. And you are going to look back at your new version of yourself and just be like, wow, I am so proud of myself. Look at where God took me. It's so

It was such a beautiful moment that I had. And I'll never take that for granted, that feeling of being healed and just being in joy, you know. That is so beautiful. I remember when we first met, you were like, this guy, Stephen Furtick, Stephen Furtick. I think his name is Stephen Furtick. It's unbelievable. That's so amazing. It looked so beautiful. Thank you. I wish I could have gone, thank you.

Sometimes, when Ari, by the way, when Ari wants something from me, you guys should see. She'll go, thank you so much. She gets like all professional with me. Because I know if I'm really nice to you, I'll get what I want. Yeah. Manipulative. The Bible says do not manipulate. Is that what it says? Anyways, how was your weekend? Is that what it says? How was your weekend? I don't know. Who are you with? Okay. Okay.

I was in Boise, Idaho this—whoa. I was in Boise, Idaho this weekend. Who knew that Idaho was, like, happening? I still don't really know where it is on the map. It's just so funny, like, going to other parts of America and realizing, like, wow, there's so much more than L.A. out there. And, like, houses with backyards. It's just, like, it's just a different world. But I went to—there's this church that I've been going to out in Boise. It's called River House, and it's just, like—

The best church, Riverhouse and Jesus Image are like my two. Like they're the best churches in America. Yes. And I've been to a lot of them and they're my favorites. Riverhouse is this like beautiful, beautiful, charismatic, spirit-filled church with the best community I've ever seen. Jesus is the main everything. Like they just, they love Jesus and they do it right. And unfortunately, there are some churches who like Jesus isn't always number one. Yeah.

What do they make number one? Jesus, the Holy Spirit. No, I'm saying like other churches. You know what it is? There are some churches and like to each their own. Like I don't necessarily think anything is wrong because some people like everyone has a different preference. But there are some churches that are so rigid in like...

30, 25 minutes of worship, 45 minute message. You like on the dot, like it doesn't matter what God is doing or how the spirit's moving. You stick to the schedule and like, that's it. And that's just not what either of us, we are like, Holy Spirit, take me wherever. Like we're nuts. We're absolutely nuts. And I love that. And that's how they don't suppress the Holy Spirit at all. Like they'll throw away a whole, um,

The pastor at River House, his name is Jordan Verner, and he will legitimately like have like a whole message plan, get into church and then throw it all out and be like, God wants me to talk about something completely different and like preach on the spot. And I just, I love that. I really respect that. Anyway, so they have their conference this weekend and it is like absolutely life changing. Three days changed my life, changed my faith. I knew it was going to. I always know when God is going to like,

level it up and like do something different. Can I tell you the funniest thing that happened? So one of the speakers, his name is Will Hart. He's, um, he's like the CEO or like he's the president or the leader, whatever of Iris global, it's Heidi Baker and his ministry. And, um,

Will is he's like he's basically he's up there and he's like prophesying and he's praying and he has everybody like, you know, if you want to be touched by God, like come up, whatever. I go up there. I want this man to prophesy over me so badly. I want him to pray for me. And like I had told my friend, I was like, yeah, I really wanted to go up there. But sometimes I get nervous. And my friend was like, well, the hungry get fed. So if you want something, you go and you get it.

And that's a message to anyone who's too afraid to do an altar call. You have no idea what you're missing when you feel a prompting, when your heart starts racing and you sit in your seat, when they say, if you have this or this, or you're feeling called by God and you don't go up, which I've done so many times, we have no idea what we miss in those moments. So finally, for the first time, I go up, I'm standing there.

And he's like prophesying over everyone. And I'm like, so in it. I'm like, I wish I could have been there. No, listen, listen, it's so funny. I'm in the glory and I'm like rocking back. You know how I get the arms that are going. I'm like in the glory. He's like, he says something and I didn't hear him fully. And he goes, if you're...

Like start waving your hand. I didn't hear him, but I'm just like, I start waving my hand in front of everyone. He's like, do you have metal in your body? But I didn't hear him. He wanted to heal somebody with metal in their body. He goes, do you have metal in your body? And I was like, oh.

I didn't hear him. He goes, okay, where is it? And then I was like, wait, what? In my brain. No, he goes, okay, where is it? And I was like, wait, what? He goes, you have metal? I go, what? No, I don't have metal. He goes, okay, so what's wrong? I go, my heart. In front of everybody. And he was like, okay. And so he comes down and he starts praying for me. And it was so beautiful. But I was dying laughing. I had no idea what to do. I'm like, my heart. Okay.

Can you imagine what I would have said? I would have made a scene. You already know. I love it. It was so funny. That was the most beautiful. I just love a good, spirit-filled church. There's nothing like it. When you brought me to Jesus' image. You know, when they do the altar calls, we're not kidding when we say we run down. It's actually a little bit ridiculous. You know...

Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. But the thing is, I will say we go down to the altar, but we put hands and we start praying on people. We do. Yeah. After we have our own moment. It's ridiculous. Ari and I really quickly want to mention, as some of you know, we are on tour right now. We are officially on the Girls Gone Bible live tour where we basically spend a night with you guys, loving Jesus, talking about Jesus, crying, laughing.

The number one response that we've heard is that everybody feels the Holy Spirit in the room. There's people that experience glory, the manifest presence of God for the first time. They experience an encounter with the Holy Spirit the first time. We lead people to salvation. There have been so many experiences.

and people coming home since we started. So we want to invite you guys to come to see us on the Girls Gone Bible live tour. You can go to girlsgonebible.com slash tour. Before we really jump into it, Ari and I wanted to talk about something that is genuinely so pressing on our hearts. And we have been behind the scenes talking with so many different foundations. Human trafficking is so heavy on our hearts. And God gave us the most beautiful message

thing in the world, which is a platform to be able to get involved with things like this. We are so passionate about human trafficking and

doing whatever we can about a situation that seems so unrealistic and so far away and so not in our reality when really it's happening all the time, all around us, right under our noses. And there's this film called City of Dreams that has come out. It's by the same producers of Sound of Freedom, which was...

Another movie about human trafficking, City of Dreams, is basically about like child exploitation and the fashion industry and sweatshops and what and the abuse and the horrific working and living conditions of literal children all over the world, all over the country in Los Angeles.

After watching this film, I remember driving down the street. You and I were so unwell after this movie because it is so horrific and so heartbreaking. And it's still as much as it hurts us, we still don't even understand the reality of it, which is so crazy. We're driving down the street thinking like legitimately any of these houses could be sweatshops right now. That's how under our nose it is.

And I just wanted to read a couple of things just off the page because I want to get it exactly about this film. Hollywood and theaters have posed significant challenges to City of Dreams. As you guys know, Hollywood and just like the industry and the media and the powers that be are very...

They're very, not to get conspiracy theory, but there is like so much evil that controls media. It is so, what is the word I'm looking for? The media and Hollywood have the ability to like filter the content that actually gets through. And so if you try to say anything or do anything or create a project that is against the

the message they're trying to send, which oftentimes is evil, coming from two people who have worked in the industry.

It is a very weird situation in Hollywood, and this film has had so much backlash. They have done everything in their power to not let this get made, not let this get produced. It gets flagged. It exposes one of the darkest truths in America, and that is child exploitation, child labor. The darkness will always come to light, and I am so happy that City of Dreams came out because although it was one of the most heart-wrenching things I have ever watched—

It was the most eye-opening, and it made me say, we have to get to work. Like, we have to get on mission. And I think all of us as Christians need to play a part and do—I mean, think about if this was your sister or your child—

Um, we can't even imagine what that would be like if that was one of our own or someone we loved that was taken. Um, and, and like Angela said, it is happening right under our noses in LA and you might be saying, well, how can we help? What can we do? The fashion industry is such a big one. Even me, I used to shop at these fast, fast fashion places. Um,

You know, like Shein. These kids were writing on the back of tags, help me. They were- On the clothing. Yeah. Like crying out to help through writing on the tags of clothing. Yeah. They were, there's so much trafficking through these fast fashion brands. So doing your part and yes, although these clothes are extremely cheap, maybe knowing that what stands behind it and not doing it. Yeah. You know, there's other amazing brands that are affordable that we don't have to go to.

Another thing is being very smart about who you vote for. We won't get too deep into that, but I think as Christians, no, I know as Christians, we all have to vote. We have to be smart when we vote. And so just do your research and vote right and be smart in who you vote for. Be cautious of where you're shopping. Get the word out as much as you can. If you can

Go see this movie and maybe send it to your friends because if you don't know what it is and about the fashion industry and the child laboring, you will after you see this film. It's an amazing movie. Support films like this and support Christian content. If I could ask you guys to do anything, it's every time there's a Christian movie, go see it.

You have no idea what's happening in the movie industry right now. Movies are not being made. TV is not being made. The dollars are low. They don't have money. Everything since they were like, it's just like all messed up. The whole acting industry, the whole film industry. But you know what is booming? Christian films. It's insane. So what you can do is continue to support any Christian film, any film of light.

There are so many incredible foundations that you can help children. We have been talking with these foundations, Christian foundations that are giving their lives to fight for these children, to find these children. So helping these children is something we can do. We put our money on all these clothes. Maybe we put a piece of that to help these kids that are in need. And we will put a foundation. We are partnering with a

foundation that is incredible, that is fighting for these children, that has saved children from years of abuse and sex trafficking. So we will put that in the box too. We all need to play our part. Okay, so what are we talking about today? We're talking about what God says versus how we feel. I feel like almost every story in the Bible is about focusing on God's will and God's voice and what God is saying as opposed to our feelings. Yeah.

as opposed to our feelings. Like...

I mean, we could name so many just off the top of my head, Abraham and Isaac, Abraham to sacrifice his only son. And Abraham went against his natural inclination to not want to sacrifice his son. And he brought him up to the mountain and he listened to God's voice and what God was telling him and speaking over him versus his own desires and what he was feeling. Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. I mean, he literally was sweating blood, having all of these

natural human emotions and being so burdened by the cross and like what he was going to have to face. But nevertheless, not my will, but yours, God. And like, so there, I mean, Sarah and Abraham too, like they had their feelings of being too old, not being able to have children. And God was speaking, no, you're going to have a child. And they had to believe that over what they were feeling

In their current circumstance. So it's all throughout the Bible. Yeah. I think that's a big reason of why people are so stuck and get just led in destruction because we, so many of us, like we're led by our feelings and feelings.

they're so deceiving and it's not real. And, and, and for me, like in my own situation, I always lived by the way, the way I feel. That's why I stayed in relationships too long. That's why I stayed in friendships too long. I would be led by my feelings and,

And it's like our feelings aren't real all the time. And if you think about it, one minute we can be on top of the world, we can be in the best mood, and then we can see something on TV or someone can say something to us. Totally. And all of a sudden we're like down in the dump. So feelings can be so deceiving. That's why we have to live by faith. We have to live by the Word of God. Everything we do should be governed by the Word of God. Yeah. And so...

That's personally what has changed my life. It's like, that's why this thing is the map quest to our life. It's life. It's the light because now it shows us how to live, how to talk, how to think, how to act, whatever.

when we have these feelings, we say, well, does this match up with the word of God? And if it doesn't, if it contradicts the word of God, then we don't do it. If it does great, follow it. And so that's been just the biggest blessing with me on my journey is that now when I feel things, I'm like, okay, well, I, is this right? Let me go to the scriptures. That's why I love in the Bible.

Like everyone will come to Jesus and try to question him or interrogate him. And what does he say? He'll be like, well, the scripture says. So it's like, and Jesus does that all through the Bible. Well, what does the scripture say? So everything we do, if we ever have questions, if we ever have like overwhelming feelings, we have to match it with what God says. What about you? Um,

Yeah, I mean, you and I are in such a similar situation where, like, we went our whole life having absolutely zero tools for...

emotional regulation and like even processing. Like I think you're like me where we both, like I never really learned how to process emotions. I never really, I didn't have, I was a very emotional person and I was ruled by my emotions. I was ruled by my feelings. Everything that I felt was a massive deal. Everything was all like, I just always had heightened emotions. And through my relationship with Jesus and,

The number one thing that he has done with me is deconstruct my perception of feelings and emotions. And, like, I think in the beginning of my journey, I remember...

One of the first things that I really remember going through with God was like, I just love how relational he is. I love how intimately involved he is in all of our lives. Like he cares about everything, like every relationship, every situation. I remember one of the first things we did because I was always like,

I love love. I love relationships. Like I love my boyfriend. And I remember the first thing he did was like, we are going to get to the bottom of this need for connection and all of these things.

And the first thing that he had to do was get to the bottom of like my feelings and my emotions. And he took me, it felt as if the first two years of my relationship with Jesus, he took me through thing after thing after thing where I had to go in direct opposition to what my feelings, what my heart wanted. And it came to relationships, friendships, and career stuff. I remember when I first...

I'll just go on career. Like when I first started to follow Jesus, I began to realize like, oh my gosh, I'm

There are so many things that I have been thanking Jesus for that he never wanted me to take in the first place. There are so many jobs that are incredibly ungodly, incredibly not glorifying Jesus. And I'm taking these things and I feel like it's a blessing and I feel like this is a good thing because this is a good thing for my career. And then he's like,

What you feel in these moments actually means nothing because I'm trying to speak to you. I'm trying to tell you how your feeling is deceiving you. This isn't good. This isn't godly. This doesn't glorify me. And it's not from me. And so my career was like a really insane thing that I had to navigate in acting, you know, to where I was like, even, you know, after I started Girls Gone Bible, I'm

I remember I was still holding on to acting like for dear life. I've loved it my whole life. It's what I've done since I was little. There wasn't a world in which I ever, ever, ever thought that I would be okay without it. Yeah. For so many reasons. I loved it. You work so hard at something for so long, you know. And then also it's like, this is my thing. Like I'm not, it's like a pride thing too, where I'm like, I'm not giving up on this.

And through some nights of wrestling and through so many conversations with God, he changed my heart and he showed me what it's like to lay something down regardless of how I feel about it. And so he's taking me through these things where I'm like, I feel like I want this. I feel like this is good for me. I feel like this is the will for my life. But God is speaking something completely different and I have to abandon all

my own will. I have to abandon my own will in this situation to follow God's no matter how much it hurts. In relationships, I'll never forget. I've told the story about this specific relationship, but I was like so in love, so, so, so in love.

And what's for who it was? You know. What? Yes. No, no. Not that one. I'm sorry, guys. I wish you, you know what? Come to our live shows. You can hear all the tea. Oh, we talk about it all. We talk about it all. And then, so I'm like in this relationship and God is like,

He orchestrates it in a way where I am literally, he's giving me, I don't think God tests us like in a bad way, like to see us fail or anything, but like he did, I saw two roads in which I could go. One is God's will, one is not.

My heart wanted to go knock God's will more than anything in the world. My heart was so over here. Please, Jesus, don't make me make this decision. And it was the first massive trust building thing with God and I, because he wants, we have to earn God's trust just as much as we think he needs to earn ours. And so I had to abandon my will and my heart in this situation for, trust me, it was a good thing.

And I picked up God's will and I went the opposite direction. And I grew so much during that season because I was like, it was the first time that I was like, wow, my feelings ultimately mean nothing. And I grow so much when I sacrifice my feelings. You know what I mean? It's so true. And I think it's funny you say that because that's the exact same.

I'm in right now. And I have been in this very long season of singleness and he's being like, I understand how you feel and what you want, but my ways are like you do. Like I, that's why I love the scripture. I trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding because I

What he has done through me, through my singleness, these past couple nights of the peace that I have felt in my home after Italy, coming home by myself, he has spoken in my heart so much of being like, see what I've done in your heart through this that you would have never been able to do had you had a partner in this.

And so it's just, it's crazy. It's like, we feel like we need someone. We feel like we're lonely. We feel like our time is running out. I'm in the same situation where I have these moments where I feel, I'm so content because God is, He am reading, I will redeem and restore all your years. Like I read these because they get me through and it's the truth and that's His promise. But then we will start to feel like,

oh man, is my time running out? Is, do I have to hurry up? I'm looking around and I'm at this wedding and she's, all my friends are getting married and they're all having kids and, and, you know, I'm still in this season and is it okay? And you're, you're, and then your feelings start becoming deceiving. Um, and so that's just, I love that you say that because

If you are in that season of just isolation, not even isolation, just a season of singleness longer than planned, it's because he is molding you and building you into someone that you are going to be so proud of that he would never be able to do. Have you been with someone? Because you don't realize when you are with someone...

It's not just you anymore. You're caring for someone else. You can't fully focus on even doing the Lord's work. It's like when you are in the season of singleness, you're fully devoted and it's such a gift. And so, yeah, that's where I've been too. Even with the career stuff, like

I had a struggle for so long, but who he built me in when I had to give up the career. I did struggle. I struggled for months. I was so scared. My whole life was built on me wanting to become something because I didn't want to struggle. Yeah.

And so if you just hold on, even when he says like just rest, like rest in green pastures, like he says that for a reason. Some seasons are just for resting. So he is because in that rest, he's building you into the person you're supposed to be. And then that's when he whispers, go. So good. You know, so beautiful. It's

The hardest time, I think, to ever trust in God's voice over your feelings is seasons like this, like season of singleness in the wilderness, in a really when your mental health isn't great. Like,

There are so many times where, I mean, but that's why Proverbs 3, 5 to 6, trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding. Every time that I try to lean on my own understanding, I get myself in trouble. We are never going to be as smart as God. We are never going to know what He knows. He lives completely outside of space and time. He knows so many things that we don't know. And like,

His ways are higher. His thoughts are higher. And he has plans for us, good, good plans. And our feelings, our feelings and our thoughts is the devil's legitimate playground. Like he loves, this is the area in which he loves to go around. And just the number one thing that I've been learning recently is there's this thing that I like to call imaginations, right?

And our feelings can be so built on imaginations and things that are not real, that are literally not real. And what I am so strongly believing in this season is like there are narratives at play. And like in any situation that we have, there are probably multiple narratives that we can choose to believe in.

And we have a choice. Most narratives are going to be ones that don't lead to peace, that don't lead to unity with people, that don't lead to reconciliation. And there are narratives that the devil is throwing at you, giving you the option to believe in.

But then there's always at least one narrative. That's the truth. That's God's narrative that leads to peace, that leads to unity. And we have the ability to choose a narrative in whatever situation to believe a narrative that leads to peace and that leads to hope and that leads to joy. And for me, like I what I'm learning more than anything is just that there are times where my feelings are so irrational and

And like, I believe them and you believe that they're real. And it feels like when you're having like really strong, intense emotions, it feels like there's nothing else in the world that is as big and as important as what you're feeling in the very moment. And the enemy in our own flesh has the ability to just amplify these negative emotions that we're feeling. And God is sitting there being like, if you look at me, I will completely deconstruct all of this for you. But you just have to look at me. Yeah.

And so often because the problems become so big, God is nowhere to be found. That's what I find within myself when I let these feelings take over. And so I just want to encourage anyone who's watching, like Jesus is so much bigger than whatever it is you're feeling in any given moment. And coming from two people who are...

somewhat hyperbolic and extreme in some ways and experience like intense emotions. Like this is something that we're constantly walking through where we're like,

My feelings feel like such a big deal right now. And they're really not like whatever feels so negative in the moment is probably not that big of a deal. And just like how Ari said earlier, one of the number one ways to combat these negative emotions that start to take on like a life of themselves is through God's word is through combating lies with the truth of God's word, holding every lie to God's truth. And what that looks like practically is like legitimately, um,

First of all, you need to be in community. You have to have wise counsel, wise people that you can go to and be honest about. What I've learned is coming from someone who has trouble sometimes voicing my opinion, especially ones that make me feel weak. Yeah.

Any emotion that I feel that makes me feel weak is so hard for me to tell someone I'm feeling. And you know what happens? It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And then you just, you bleed on everybody around you. Instead of the moment you start feeling something, just talking to someone and letting it lose all of its power. You and I just recently had to go through something where I let a feeling and an emotion get so big and

And the second I brought it to you, I had so much fear that like admitting this or just like being honest about how I'm feeling was going to make me look so weak and what my best friend in the world is going to judge me. Like, it's ridiculous. It's not real. Like all these things happen.

And the second that I am honest with you and I lay the pride down, that God forsaken pride that has caused so many issues in my life, that God is legitimately like refuse. I love him so much because he loves me so much that he's forcing me to like get rid of the pride. The second I am open up to you, this problem that is so massive becomes so small and it completely loses power.

That's what I'm walking through this season. And it makes you sick when you hold an enemy. It really does. And before you even talk, like, we, like, forget that we, like, Jesus is our father and we don't have to

pick and choose what we tell them. We don't have to hide things. And the more we come forth and be like, Jesus, just to get it out and be like, I am so mad at this person. This is what I'm feeling. Why are they acting like this? Why am I, is it true what I'm feeling? Am I being deceived by the enemy? Like I, I, I actually like had this conversation, conversation with Jesus the other day where I was just like talking to him in, in realness and rawness. And I'm telling you, like, it's,

There's nothing like it because it's like unpacking that stuff that's not even real. It's like the deceiving in your heart. It like comes out to God. You bring it to his feet and he reveals the truth and the light. And so...

Anything we're feeling, like feelings aren't meant to be fixed. They're meant to be felt. And let them be felt with Jesus. Everything at the feet of him and just pray about it and talk to him about it. Yeah. And it's so healing. It is. I mean...

Other than God's word, you guys know this and we'll tell you every day for the rest of our lives, for the rest of eternity that we have Girls Gone Bible or any sort of platform, we'll tell you two things, three things. Love Jesus, read the Bible, and make sure your secret place is strong. Spend time in prayer.

You have to be open to God's will for you. You have to be open to his life and you have to seek his will above your own. And like, for me, anytime that my heart is closed off and I go to Jesus and I'm like, no, this is how I feel, Jesus, about this situation. And this is how it is. And you need to fix it. And you need to fix that person. God's a little, I imagine him just being like, are you done? Are you done? Okay.

Okay, now let me speak truth into this. And so for me, my main goal is to always be aware that whatever I think, that's why I love praying in tongues, praying in the spirit so much, because I, my thoughts, I have so many feelings and ways of thinking about a situation and

that when I pray, even my prayers are biased. You know what I mean? I pray whatever I think I need to pray about. But then when I pray in the Spirit so often, I'm praying something that my heart, my spirit, the Holy Spirit Himself is praying for me that I don't even know is the root issue of whatever is going on. And then it's through praying in the Spirit that I begin to then, I'm telling you, praying in the Spirit is...

has changed my life. It's the only thing that will then I'm praying in the spirit and I begin to have thoughts that I don't even know where they're coming from, but I know it's the prayers that are being prayed through my heart, you know? And so being open to God's will and his voice and not, and sure come to him however you want, but just be open to the fact that God wants to speak truth into whatever you're feeling, you know? That's right. That's right.

And be careful being influenced by your feelings by others. Oh. Oh, talk about it. Yeah. She's been watching. I like that. I don't know what I'm talking about. It's true, though. You know...

Just, I just, you know, most of my life I would go to so many people and ask them, well, what do you think? Well, what should I do? And what do I, and just talking to them about the problems and how I should come at this person. And everybody has different opinions. Everybody feels different. And so going, of course, it's nice to get an opinion from someone that is good counsel. But I just...

So many of us are getting influenced by all these thoughts and whatever. So just be careful with that. Totally. Yeah. Ultimately, it's about putting your trust in the unchanging nature of God.

versus your ever-changing feelings and emotions and opinions and thoughts. Like we are so unreliable. What I thought two years ago, I feel so differently about now. That is why we're so lucky to have the word of God that never changes. And for me, seeking God's voice in everything, because it's the only one that is forever yesterday, today, and tomorrow. The only

voice that's the same. Whereas just like you're saying, you can listen to all these different things or your own heart or all these different people and everyone's opinion is different and everything changes and it's so confusing, but God never changes. Thank you, Jesus, that we serve a God who never changes and is forever reliable. Reliable and yeah, and lovable and forgives. And that's why anger is such a big part of our lives.

our feelings and sinning and do the opposite of God's word. And that's why in your anger, that's why it says in your anger, do not sin. When we are angry, angry, angry, we are angry.

We are angry. We go so out of pocket. We are not ourselves. Totally. We say things. We do things. It causes us to sin. And so one thing in my journey that I've really learned in my anger, like I'm learning to just don't act. Totally. Don't react. Yes.

Don't think on emotion. Take a step back. If there is conflict with someone and you are in anger, take a moment. Be with him. Sit in prayer. Even if you need to take a couple of days because we don't know what we're feeling. We're not right in the head when we're in anger. So really taking that time, remembering who Jesus is. Do you know, it's just...

Going back and thinking about every single time I have fallen short, every time I have done wrong, every time I have been disobedient, every time I have turned my back on him when I've known what to do is right. Totally. And every time he has sat there in grace with his arms wide open for me and forgiven me and still loved me through it. So...

I had a moment of thinking that, of being in that place of anger, but being like, but look at how Jesus was with me. Totally. And it like, you come down from that anger when you remember who he is. That's why one of my prayers is always, I want to have the mind like you. I want to walk like you. I want to forgive like you. I want to love like you. And when we keep repeating that and we keep understanding how he is,

It makes us act different, doesn't it? Yeah. Don't you think? A hundred percent. My main thing, I think what gets me down so much, like if I ever react in a way that I didn't want to is like, I'm always like, okay, before I speak, God,

God, Gord, I was about to say Gord. God, give me the mind of Christ. Give me the mind of Christ. Let me operate out of the mind of Christ. And then all the time I forget to put on the mind of Christ. And I'm like, oh, and then afterwards you just, you have such major regret because you're like, why? Why did I, why did I, why did I not seek the Holy Spirit in this before I reacted? Thank you for saying that about always waiting before. Give yourself a second.

If you're a firecracker, like I can be sometimes. Like we are. We're just like, Ari and I are very similar in the sense that we're just like, I mean, Jesus has really done a massive work. I mean, he has. He really has. Like changed us from the inside out. We used to be like, like,

We're taking off the air. Like, you know what I mean? We're getting out at the red light. Exactly. So you might have. No, I didn't. I would be too. I'm just kidding. I'm too scared. Have you ever like kind of like started something with someone like beeping and stuff and then they pull up next to you? Yeah. And then you realize they're like massive and you're like, I'm just kidding. So often. Coward.

No, I love what you say. Please, please, please take a second before. No, what I was saying, you and I are such firecrackers. We literally, God has to work so much in us to have us. It's so weird because we could be so incredibly patient and

Yeah. Most of the time. But then there are those moments where you let offense get in and you let pride get in and you let a trigger. That's what it is. Get triggered. Pride and ego. So much pride and triggers like we all have triggers and then you let all this negative emotion take over and then you act on it. And like, yeah, my me. Us women. You guys have it so.

Can we talk about how easy men have it? Oh, I see. You got I grew up with my dad. My dad raised me. My dad goes, you women are nuts. You know, these you you guys, you'll like you'll have a, you know, fight about something two seconds later.

Oh, it's all good, man. Oh, 100%. All done. No, it's so annoying. But girls were like four or five days processing. I mean, you and I are much better than that. I will stand by this. Men relationships don't even come close to the sisterhood of women. You know, when I think about

going by faith and not by your feelings, I think about the story of Noah. You know, God instructed Noah to build this ark because God was going to send rain, which in that time, that was never seen before. And you know, Noah was already at such an old age and he had spent years building this ark and everyone was making fun of him. Do you think he felt like building that? Do you think that

And, you know, it's so funny. I feel like with Noah, we have to believe God over, like, the tiniest inconveniences. Like, imagine if we ever had to go through what people in the Bible went through. We'd be done. Imagine us building an ark at 100 years old. Us two. Oh, yeah. Oh, no.

I did too. I'm not. Unbelievable. We get out of, it's, never mind. I know we make fun of ourselves, but you speak life over yourself, okay? Please. Can you pray for us? Oh, man. If I could leave you guys with anything, it would be Jesus is so much bigger than whatever it is you're feeling. Negative emotions, negative feelings, the lies we believe. Like, I know we talk about it all the time. Just don't engage in

And emotional awareness and, like, introspection, which is, like, you taking a look inward and, like, trying to – if I could advise you guys on anything, what's really helped me is always when I'm feeling something negative. And it's always so hard in the moment. It's so hard to take a step back from your emotions. But, like, you have to stay logical and –

I love being logic-driven. I am a highly emotional person, but when I'm ruled by my emotions, it wreaks havoc on my life. And so I always do my best to stay logical, which doesn't always happen. And it's an ongoing, forever process of trying to stay logical when I'm having heightened emotions. So if I could advise you guys with anything, it's just when you're feeling something, especially if it's negative.

try to separate yourself from the emotion. Try to take a step back and look at the bigger picture and be like, what am I feeling? Why am I feeling it? What is the root? And where is the lie? If it's a negative emotion, if something is wrong, like what am I, what am I,

engaging with right now that I could possibly sometimes things happen, which it's like your feelings are completely valid. Like that happens all the time. And even then, like you feel those feelings, but do your best to not be ruled by them. Do your best to just invite Jesus in. Like things happen. Like someone does something wrong to you or says something to you.

But just choose to bring Jesus into those moments and be like, Jesus, I am offended. I am hurt. I am sad. Would you just give me peace? Would you just love on me in this moment? But if it's something that it's like irrational emotions and feelings, zoom out, look at the big picture, try to figure out where it is you can invite Jesus in to like deconstruct and dismantle this like ever-growing negative emotion that you're feeling. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, so...

We love you guys so much, and we just love you. We love you guys. We love you. We are praying for you. Maybe in the comment box, write some of your prayers, and then underneath it,

pray for somebody else. Yes. Can we please do a prayer chain? I miss those. Yeah. Just like Ari said, comment a prayer. And then after you comment a prayer, go to the person under you and comment on their prayer and pray for them and genuinely pray. When you pray for other people, it is the best thing you can do for yourself. You partner with God and you invite God into your life by praying for other people. So I love that. Thank you for saying that. Yeah. Yeah. So please, we'll be praying for you. We love you so much. We thank you.

We thank you for sticking by us, sticking with us, accepting us, and just being our sisters and brothers in Christ. It's the greatest honor. So we love you. We love you so much.

May the Lord bless you and keep you. May he make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he turn his face towards you and give you peace and control over your emotions. Don't be fighting, people. Don't be crazy. Don't be taking out your earrings. Love you. Love you.

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