cover of episode All Eyes on Pennsylvania

All Eyes on Pennsylvania

2024/11/4
logo of podcast CNN This Morning

CNN This Morning

AI Deep Dive AI Insights AI Chapters Transcript
People
A
Alex Thompson
一名长期跟踪报道美国总统竞选活动的资深新闻记者。
C
Chrissy Houlihan
M
Mark McKinnon
M
Matt Gorman
M
Megan Hayes
R
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
主持人
专注于电动车和能源领域的播客主持人和内容创作者。
特朗普
美国企业家、政治人物及媒体名人,曾任第45任和第47任美国总统。
Topics
主持人:宾夕法尼亚州是关键战场州,两名候选人都将在那里发表最后讲话。最新民调显示,哈里斯在爱荷华州领先,这令人震惊,因为民主党自2012年以来就没有赢得过该州。哈里斯在周六夜现场的惊喜客串。特朗普在竞选最后阶段使用煽动性言论,攻击媒体,并对选举结果表示怀疑。特朗普及其盟友正在实施一项策略,该策略借鉴了他四年前挑战败选时使用的颠覆性策略。特朗普试图通过施压佐治亚州国务卿和副总统来推翻选举结果。特朗普及其支持者正在制造一种不可避免的胜利感,以便在输掉选举时更容易引起支持者的不满。最新民调显示,哈里斯和特朗普在战场州的支持率不相上下,但越来越多的决定性选民倾向于支持哈里斯。爱荷华州的最新民调显示哈里斯领先特朗普,这令人震惊,因为爱荷华州通常是共和党占优势的州。 Alex Thompson:哈里斯的势头增强,特朗普阵营士气低落,双方对选举结果都不确定。特朗普的竞选策略是描绘一个黑暗的国家形象,而哈里斯则采取乐观积极的态度。哈里斯调整演讲策略以应对不同选民群体的弱点。 Megan Hayes:民主党人对选举结果更加乐观,认为哈里斯的积极信息能够吸引更多选民。特朗普的愤怒信息无法吸引摇摆不定的女性选民,而哈里斯的乐观信息则可以吸引更多选民投票。 Matt Gorman:塞尔策的民调结果可能不准确,但值得关注的是竞选活动的行动。塞尔策的民调方法与其他民调机构不同,这可能导致结果偏差。塞尔策的民调方法可能存在偏差,导致结果不准确。 Chrissy Houlihan:宾夕法尼亚州对哈里斯的支持热情高涨,尤其是在郊区和农村地区。宾夕法尼亚州的女性选民,特别是农村地区的老年女性,对哈里斯抱有希望。特朗普的言论令人不安,显示了他可能再次当选总统后会如何执政。一些选民仍然感到被遗忘,并寻求能理解他们感受的候选人。民主党未能有效地沟通其平台及其与共和党平台的差异。 Mark McKinnon:特朗普将波多黎各称为“垃圾”的言论激怒了宾夕法尼亚州的波多黎各裔选民,并导致一些人转向支持哈里斯。哈里斯在65岁以上女性选民中的支持率很高,这可能对选举结果产生重大影响。即使塞尔策的民调结果部分错误,其方向性也可能表明哈里斯在关键战场州的优势。哈里斯将赢得选举,原因是女性选民的热情和老年女性选民的支持。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why is Pennsylvania considered a crucial state in the election?

Pennsylvania is key because both candidates are set to deliver their final messages there, and it could be a deciding factor in the election outcome.

Why is the Iowa poll showing Kamala Harris leading significant?

The Iowa poll is significant because it shows a three-point lead for Harris in a state Democrats haven't won since 2012, indicating potential late momentum shifts.

What strategy is Donald Trump employing in the final days of his campaign?

Trump is using dark rhetoric, attacking the media, and casting doubts on election results, similar to his tactics in challenging his 2020 loss.

How did Trump's pressure on Georgia's Secretary of State reflect his broader strategy?

Trump's pressure on Georgia's Secretary of State to find votes mirrored his broader strategy of undermining election integrity and setting the stage for potential challenges to the result.

What does the final New York Times-Siena College poll indicate about the current state of the race?

The poll shows the race is neck and neck in battleground states, with late deciding voters breaking 55% for Harris and 44% for Trump.

Why is the Iowa poll from Ann Seltzer and the Des Moines Register considered shocking?

The poll is shocking because it shows Harris leading in Iowa, a state that has been reliably red and hasn't voted for a Democrat since 2012.

What is the significance of the 'granny gap' in the Seltzer poll?

The 'granny gap' refers to Harris leading among women over 65 by 35 points, a significant shift from Trump's previous leads in this demographic.

How does the Trump campaign view the Seltzer poll in Iowa?

The Trump campaign is dismissing the Seltzer poll as inaccurate, despite its historical reliability, and focusing on other polls showing a tighter race.

What impact could the Puerto Rican community in Pennsylvania have on the election?

The Puerto Rican community, angered by Trump's comments about Puerto Rico, could be a decisive factor in Pennsylvania, a state where their votes could swing the election.

How does the SNL appearance of Kamala Harris compare to past candidates' appearances?

Harris' SNL appearance follows a tradition of candidates using the show to humanize themselves, similar to Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine, though Trump had to request equal time due to FCC rules.

Chapters
Analysts discuss the shifting momentum in the final days of the election, with Kamala Harris gaining traction and Trump's campaign showing signs of anxiety.
  • Kamala Harris is perceived to have momentum, with late deciding voters breaking for her.
  • Trump's campaign is increasingly anxious, with morale low since September.
  • Both sides acknowledge uncertainty about the final outcome.

Shownotes Transcript

Translations:
中文

Church's original recipe is back. You can never go wrong with original.

Still tastes the same like back in the day. Right now, get two pieces of chicken starting at only $2.99 or ten pieces starting at only $10.99. Churches. Offer valid at participating locations. It's Monday, November 4th, right now on this special edition of CNN This Morning. Somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and I don't mind that so much.

You wouldn't mind. Donald Trump wraps up dark rhetoric in the final days of the election, once again going after the media and this. Pennsylvania will be key, no doubt. All eyes on Pennsylvania, both candidates to deliver their final messages in the crucial Commonwealth, and this. They tell me I'm down in Iowa. I don't think so.

Iowa in play? We'd be surprised, but a shocking new poll shows Kamala Harris leading in the Hawkeye State, somewhere Democrats have not won since 2012. And this. The American people want to stop the chaos and end the dromola. Live from New York, it's Kamala Harris, the vice president following in the footsteps of past candidates, making a surprise cameo on Saturday Night Live.

All right, just a few seconds before 6 a.m. here on the East Coast, a live look at Detroit, Michigan, with one day left before Election Day. Both campaigns sending their VP hopefuls to this all-important blue wall state. Good morning, everyone. I'm Casey Hunt. It's wonderful to have you with us. This is it. Tomorrow is Election Day. The first polls will open just 24 hours from right now.

And the choice, your choice, could not be more clear in these final days. As I travel, I see Americans from so-called red states to so-called blue states who are ready to bend the arc of history toward justice. In times of uncertainty, we are reminded we pay in door for our

But joy cometh in the morning, and church morning is on its way. And I have this piece of glass here, but all we have really over here is the fake news, right? And to get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news, and I don't mind that so much. Because...

I don't mind. We got a lot of crooked people out there. We're fighting like a son of a gun. They are fighting so hard to steal this damn thing. We had the safest border in the history of our country the day that I left. I shouldn't have left. I mean, honestly. Harris invoking Martin Luther King Jr., Trump closing with more violent rhetoric, raising the specter of reporters being shot, and already casting doubts on the election results.

He said there he shouldn't have left in 2020. That is part of a broader strategy that we should be paying attention to in the race's final days. The New York Times wrote it this way on Sunday, quote, former President Donald J. Trump and his allies are rolling out a late stage campaign strategy that borrows heavily from the subversive playbook he used to challenge his loss four years ago. So what was that playbook? Let's review.

So look, all I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. He actually lost. Trump was pressuring Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the will of his state's voters. When Raffensperger wouldn't cave, Trump pressured his own vice president to simply overrule the American people.

If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people. Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that will be a sad day for our country. This was the scene shortly after Trump made those remarks on the Ellipse on January 6th.

Hey, my friends! Hey, my friends! Hey, my friends!

Generating that mob relied on thousands of people believing Trump's lie that the election was stolen from him. And now in 2024, as The Times goes on to write, quote, Mr. Trump and his most prominent supporters have pointed to partisan polling and betting markets to claim that he is heading for a, quote, crushing victory, as his top surrogate Elon Musk recently put it. The expectation helps set the stage for disbelief and outrage among his supporters should he lose.

It's been the message behind the scenes, too, with Trump aides and supporters trying to create a sense of inevitability that would raise doubts in the event of a Trump loss. But in the final hours of this presidential race, there are some signs that late momentum could be with Vice President Kamala Harris. The final new New York Times-Siena College poll showed the race neck and neck in the battlegrounds, but found signs that late deciding voters are breaking for Harris, 55 percent to 44 percent.

And the highly anticipated and well-respected Iowa poll from Ann Seltzer and the Des Moines Register, shocking the political world over the weekend with a three-point lead for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump in the ruby red Hawkeye state. That's a seven-point swing since the last Iowa poll in September. And right now, Democrats are cautiously optimistic that things are breaking their way. We have momentum. It is on our side. Can you feel it?

And we have the momentum because our campaign is tapping into the ambitions, the aspirations, and the dreams of the American people. Because we are optimistic and excited about what we can do together.

All right. Election day is tomorrow. Joining us now to discuss Solon Kano-Young, CNN political analyst and White House correspondent for The New York Times. Alex Thompson, CNN political analyst, national political reporter for Axios. Megan Hayes, the former director of message planning at the Biden White House. And Matt Gorman, former senior advisor to Tim Scott's 2016 presidential campaign. Welcome to all of you. Thank you so much for being here. Just one day out. All right. So, Alex, let me start with you. What are you hearing?

What do you know? I'm hearing Kamala Harris, underdog no more. I mean, you heard it in that clip right there. She's saying that she has the momentum. The Trump campaign, I can tell you that there's more anxiety on the Trump side than I've heard in at least a month. I think morale was low in September when it appeared that the Harris momentum, just they didn't know when it was going to end. Now, you know, they feel a little bit on the ropes. And I think both sides, if they're being honest with you, put the truth in their arm, they'd be like, we don't know what's going to happen.

I think what's interesting here is just the contrast between these two candidates at this point. And by that, I mean, you really are seeing the former president sort of lean on this dark portrayal of the country, trying to tap into anger of voters. And look,

anger can be a motivator to get to the polls as well. On the other side, you have the vice president with this sort of optimistic, positive outlook. You know, we're going to a church yesterday on one of the final days for her closing argument. You know, I've been following Vice President Harris and the Democrats a bit more than the former president. And just specifically with her sort of message as well, I think it's interesting that the different sort of how she tailors different speeches to address

different constituencies that amount to vulnerabilities for her campaign. Yesterday you saw her talk about Gaza. That represents Arab Americans as sort of the vulnerability there for her campaign. Because she was in Detroit. That's absolutely right. You've seen her, the former President Obama be deployed for Latino and black men as well as trying to empathize

saying, look, I know that you feel as if the government may have neglected you and trying to empathize there. And of course, also, we're watching the gender gap in this race as well. So, Megan, I mean, what are your tech starts saying? Do Democrats right now feel a little bit more optimistic about where they were? Because there was this period of time in October where it seemed

Like Trump was closing the gap in the national polling. They were a lot more excited about where they stood. I'm just trying to figure out how much that's changing here in the final days. Yeah, I think it started last week with the Cheney comments that you saw on Thursday. And I think that the winds are definitely changing. You definitely hear people saying they're more cautiously optimistic. Everyone's not Debbie Downer. I think everyone, you know, to Alex's point, no one knows what's going to happen. But I think that Trump is tapping into the anger because he knows there are no undecideds left to pick off.

that his message is not going to win with those undecided women in these battleground states. I mean, we saw that from the poll in the Des Moines Register poll. And I think that that's why the vice president is leaning towards more optimism because she knows there are still people to get out to vote. So this is an election of now you have to get these people to the polls to vote. And I think that the Trump campaign realizes that they need to turn out their base and she's hoping she can get undecided.

Here's the thing we don't know in this age of long early voting where this is one big election day. Right now, if this was 2000, 2004, we'd be at 5:00 PM on election day if you only voted in one day. So it's an open question. We don't know. Is it better to have momentum a week and a half ago? Is it better to have momentum now? As of the 29th of October, 50 million people voted already. About 75 million people yesterday, about 85 by the end of the day today. So really,

How do you quantify that? When is it best to peak? We're going to have a lot of answers, I think, by this time next week on what that is. Yeah. Can we talk about the Iowa poll for a second? Because let's put up the track record that Ann Seltzer has in Iowa over the course of recent cycles, because she honestly has had a very good track record. The last time she was wrong was back in 2004, and she was just kind of narrowly wrong. Here it is.

So you can see that the numbers now, again, I think we should note that the one that she has for Harris and Trump, it is within the margin of error. Matt and I were talking about this on set in the five o'clock hour. I'm not talking to anybody that really thinks Kamala Harris is going to win Iowa. What are they taking from this poll, Alex? Yeah, it's not about Iowa at all. It's about what it says, especially about white women in the surrounding Midwestern states.

The biggest voting bloc in this country is not black men, which we've focused a lot about, not white men that we've focused a lot about. The biggest voting bloc in this country is white women. If there is a significant shift, even a small shift, among white women in this country towards Kamala Harris in relation to the job decision, in relation to just being put off by Donald Trump, she could win this election pretty comfortably.

I agree with you. I also think it's a 65 and older block, and I also think it's showing how she's doing with rural voters, which I think people thought was going to be a problem for her. And I think that we need to be paying attention to when Kansas, Nebraska, and those results start coming in and how wide these gaps are. Yeah, I mean, that's an interesting point because that is one thing. When these returns start to come in, there are going to be states and places we know the outcome at the top line, but we're going to get a lot of really interesting information about the way these groups are moving. All right.

We're going to have much more coming up. Don't forget, tomorrow, how could you forget? It's election night in America, and from the first votes to the critical count, no one covers it like we do here at CNN. Our special live coverage starts tomorrow at 4 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN. You can join me. I will be hanging out with our strategists starting at 2 a.m. all the way through the morning, and we do expect this to go late into the night, early into the morning, so I do hope you will join us.

Coming up ahead here on CNN This Morning, we're going to have more on this gut punch for the Trump campaign. The new poll suggesting reliably red Iowa could have some blue leanings. Plus, is Donald Trump prepared to tap RFK Jr. as the next head of health and human services if he wins? Plus, we'll show you Kamala Harris' cameo on Saturday Night Live.

I'm gonna vote for us. Great. Any chance you are registered in Pennsylvania? Nope, I am not. Well, it was worth a shot.

This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. So much of your personal info is out of your control, like your insurance provider that has your social security number and your favorite retailer that has your payment details. If they get breached, your information, your identity, is vulnerable. That's why LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for threats. If your identity is stolen, they'll fix it, guaranteed to your money back. Save up to 40% your first year at LifeLock.com slash podcast. Terms apply.

Time to move? Skip the hassles of selling during the holiday season and sell your home directly to Opendoor. Request an all-cash offer in minutes, close, and get paid in days. You can even pick your close date so you can move after New Year's. Start your move at opendoor.com or download the Opendoor app. Opendoor is represented by Opendoor Brokerage, Inc., licensed 0206-1130 in California, and Opendoor Brokerage, LLC, in its other markets. Terms and conditions apply.

By the way, the polls are just as corrupt as some of the writers back there. They can make those polls sing. They can make them sing. They brag about it. I got a poll of 10 points up in Iowa. One of my enemies just puts out a poll of three down.

New reporting out that Donald Trump and his inner circle are reeling from the new Seltzer poll in the Des Moines Register. We were just discussing here at the table. It found Kamala Harris with a three-point lead over Trump in the usually reliable red state. Of course, the former president has won handily twice before. Sources tell CNN the former president is fuming over it, and Trump's advisors are trying to reassure him by claiming the poll's not accurate.

Accurate. In the last five elections, we showed you this. The poll has only been wrong once. That was back in 2004. That poll and Seltzer's record, renewing questions about the accuracy of polling throughout the election. Polling guru Nate Silver writes this. A shocking Iowa poll means somebody is going to be wrong. Either Ann Seltzer in the New York Times,

or the rest of the polling industry. Our panel is back. Matt Gorman, what do you think about this? Because, I mean, this has been my biggest question. You know, the polls seem to all be showing the same thing, which is an incredibly tight race. Obviously, this Seltzer poll is an outlier from what we're seeing. Someone's going to be wrong, right, about it. What do you think is underneath the hood here?

And we talked about this in the last half hour. I think a couple things. Number one, Seltzer's probably wrong. I give her credit for putting this out that is so contrary to conventional wisdom. She didn't necessarily have to. Ethically, it's the right thing to do, though. Also, watch the campaign's actions, right? If it was Vance or Walls going there,

Then I would think this could be real. But number two is, cells are a little different. Unlike most pollsters, she doesn't model the electorate and try to guess what it'll be. She finds geographic representation, doesn't stop until she gets the kind of appropriate number from every geographic. Now, in the past, it's good because you can pick up on rural trends. 2014, Joni Ernst and a couple other areas, she was able to get on things first in that regard. However, in the era where people aren't responding to polls as much,

except you are a progressive, for lack of a better term, a progressive super fan who just wants to tell everybody in the room to hate Donald Trump. It can skew the polls and there are some things in there. The democracy being over 50% as opposed to the economy. Not publishing the recall Biden number, for example, from 2020.

Makes me think this is a little off. Megan, we were talking a little bit earlier about what this says about women, especially older white women in the Midwest. Obviously, the blue wall, a huge focus. I think my sort of big picture question about the polling and what we're seeing is because, look, pollsters can only really do they can only pull the last election. Right. That's the information that they have at hand. This is the first presidential election since Roe fell.

And I do think there are some potential X factors that we don't necessarily know about. Do you see some of that in here? Yeah, and I also see just like a referendum on President Trump or former President Trump, right? Like people are tired of it. It's exhausting. But we also have to remember the vice president spent a significant amount of time in Iowa. So people know her in Iowa more than they would in other states when she was running for president in 2019. And I know she dropped before the election happened, but she did spend a significant amount of time there. So there also she could be benefiting from some of that. These people know her and have spent time with her and they will still vote.

for her. I really think it's pick your own polling adventure here because you can make a convincing argument either way. You can say that pollsters underrated Donald Trump in 2016. The COVID pandemic basically just screwed up polling in 2020. They're accurately counting Trump or undercounting Harris now. You could also say Nate Cohn in the New York Times polls noted that the gap of

between Republican white voters and Democratic white voters in terms of their response rate was as big as they had seen since the 2020 polls. It's possible that Republicans just don't trust a pollster when they say, hey, I'm with the New York Times. And they're still undercounting Trump polls. You can make a convincing argument either way. And I think we said, you know,

I don't think there's many that think Vice President Harris has a chance of winning Iowa here, but the trend you could pull out if you're on her campaign is that your message on reproductive rights is actually pushing people out and actually galvanizing folks, including in rural areas and specifically women as well. All right. Coming up here on CNN this morning, Pennsylvania polls, as we've just been discussing.

A dead heat on the eve of the election. We're going to talk to Mark McKinnon, who joins us with some new insights on the hundreds of thousands of Puerto Rican voters in that critical commonwealth. Plus, it's time to get ready to vote. I'll see you guys in Pennsylvania. More Hollywood A-listers lining up to campaign for Kamala Harris. Will it make a difference? We're going to talk about that and more with Pennsylvania Congresswoman Chrissy Houlihan. That's ahead.

All right, welcome back. Developing right now, election week weather. The southern plains bracing for severe storms, strong tornadoes, damaging winds, large hail, all expected in Oklahoma City and Springfield. Over the weekend, at least five tornadoes touched down in the state, two of those categorized as EF3s. Let's get to our meteorologist, Derek Van Dam, with more on this. Derek, good morning.

Yeah, Casey, that is a minimum of 136 mile per hour winds and that left the damage you see behind me. Look at that individual sifting through the rubble trying to make sense of the destruction that struck in the overnight period, adding to the danger. Now some of the greatest

importance now is getting electricity restored to these neighborhoods because of the polling centers and the voting centers, of course, with the big election day happening tomorrow. But no rest for the weary. Another round of severe weather possible today in and around Oklahoma City, where you saw that damage from and to the east. This is the area where I highlighting some of the strongest storm potential for the afternoon and evening hours, even though there have been a few tornado worn storms

there are no active warnings in terms of tornadoes at the moment. There are, however, a few severe thunderstorm warnings just to the west of Oklahoma City. So we're getting the act together. There's a strong upper level environment that's fueling these thunderstorms as a cold front marches eastward into the day tomorrow, of course, being election day. This is the cold front ahead of it. Record warmth. There's the weather that will impact places like Chicago all the way to Little Rock.

but from New York to Atlanta, mainly dry and generally warm for Tuesday's voting forecast. All right, and we will have more of that for you tomorrow morning. Derek Van Dam for us. Thanks, Derek.

all right it is of course all about the seven battleground states on the eve of the presidential election democrats hoping to keep georgia blue after flipping the state in 2020 here is your look at the latest cnn poll of polls trump leads harris by two points in georgia that is of course within the margin of error there's no clear leader cnn's nick valencia standing by live and

at the Gwinnett County Voter Registration Center in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Nick, good morning. So Trump made, of course, so many false accusations about Georgia election workers in 2020. We saw so much high-profile activity, so many, quite frankly, lives disrupted. How has the state prepared for 2024?

Well, they're very well prepared, Casey. And if you believe Georgia elections officials, these are some of the most secure elections in the country. The problem is, though, there are plenty of people who don't believe what they're hearing. And over the weekend, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, was on 60 Minutes on CBS and talking about that deep mistrust between MAGA loyalists and the conservative election officials here and how difficult it's been to stop the flow of election misinformation. They said there were 66,000 underage voters. There were zero.

Then they said that there was 2,423 non-registered voters. There was zero. But you're a Republican. He was your president. I work for the people of Georgia. I respond, and I work for the voters of Georgia. My job is to run a fair, honest, accurate election.

And we saw those efforts of disinformation pop up last week, Russian disinformation effort, a video circulating online purporting to be of a Haitian migrant who said he arrived in the country just six months ago and yet had already cast a vote for Kamala Harris and was on his way to do so again. That video, obviously a fake, was knocked down by elections officials, but you could see

What's already taking off that video seemed to take off, have a life of its own. Meanwhile, though, elections officials continue to push forward that message that these elections are safe and secure. You remember last time, though, this race was extremely tight and it's shaping up to be a tight race again. And for an election that was decided by just about 12000 votes last time, it could be a similar scenario this election cycle as well. Casey. All right. Nick Valencia for us in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Nick, thank you very much for that.

All right, still to come here on CNN This Morning, the election, of course, comes down to a handful of states. We're going to talk to Democratic Congresswoman Chrissy Houlihan about what she's seeing on the ground in her home state and actually a very critical region, little spot in Pennsylvania that she knows a lot about. Plus, if elected, Donald Trump considers letting RFK Jr. handle. I want to be in the White House, and he's assured me that I'm going to have that.

This week on The Assignment with me, Adi Kornish. So I'm sitting down with my friend David Chalian, CNN's political director. I think it would be a fool's errand, given how close each of these seven battleground states are, for someone to say that they know what the outcome of this race is going to be. What goes into the decision making at the decision desk? And what lessons have been learned from the election surprises of the last few years?

Listen to The Assignment with me, Audie Cornish, streaming now on your favorite podcast app. All right. Legendary actor, vocal Harris supporter Robert De Niro making a surprise appearance at a Philadelphia Eagles tailgate yesterday. He spoke about reproductive rights and health care in front of a crowd of fans whose votes could change.

probably will decide the election. In 2020, Joe Biden won Pennsylvania by about 81,000 votes. That amount is just over the almost 70,000 people who attended that very Eagles game at Lincoln Financial Field. On Sunday, once again, the presidential election could come down to that small handful of Pennsylvania voters. It's going to be very close. And Trump definitely has a connection with voters here in Pennsylvania. And that's why it's going to be close.

Interesting. Joining us now, someone who was there at that tailgate with De Niro, Democratic Congresswoman Chrissy Houlihan of Pennsylvania. Congresswoman, good morning to you. How was the game? First of all, I think we won. Hey, good morning. And importantly, I was not at that game. I was actually knocking doors and trying to make sure we could get out the vote. Oh, you were not at the tailgate. Oh, I'm sorry. The birds did actually win. Okay, yes. That's all that really matters. Let's be clear. But good morning again.

Good morning. No, and full disclosure, I grew up in the district that you now represent. And my high school is in your district. And as someone who knows the area well, I think my biggest question for you is what you're hearing and seeing from women

on the ground, both women who voted for Nikki Haley in the Republican primaries and also perhaps, you know, we've been talking a lot this morning about the Iowa poll, not necessarily because of what it says about who's going to win Iowa, but because of what it said about rural, older, white women. And I wondered what you made of that and what you were picking up in Pennsylvania on these questions.

So the energy is off the charts here in Pennsylvania, in the suburban parts of Pennsylvania and the rural parts. And to your point, the district that I sit in, the 6th Congressional District where I serve, is a combination of rural, urban and suburban. And I had the opportunity all weekend long to visit all the various different parts and pieces of our community. And the enthusiasm for Kamala is off the charts.

the chain, I guess I would have to say. The number of people who are showing up to knock doors, to make phone calls are in the hundreds. I think we knocked 90,000 doors just in our district alone, and then something like 800,000 across the entire Commonwealth. And so to your other question about the energy amongst women and particularly rural women, I was in a community down in the Kennet area, and I know you're familiar with that. It's sort of Southern Chester County near the border of Delaware.

women in the audience and all older women. And I think the atmosphere there is one of, I think they called it nauseous optimism. And I think that they're really hopeful that there will be a change and that change will be a positive one with Kamala in the White House and that President Trump will not return to the White House.

Congresswoman, do you feel as though, I mean, the Trump campaign has been kind of putting out and pushing, trying to set an expectation of winning? And also, of course, their candidate has been raising doubts about the process right along with that. What was

What was your reaction when he was on the campaign trail over the weekend saying that he shouldn't have left? And then he also, of course, made comments about reporters potentially being in the line of fire at future rallies. What's your response?

So speaking of nauseating, that is truly nauseating and really bone chilling. And this is an indication of were he to be successful and return to the White House. This is the kind of administration that he would undoubtedly run. The idea that he is

really frankly doing nothing but intimidating and casting dispersions and doubt amongst the electorate is, I think, pretty insidious. And so I think that that's one of the contrasts that you see here on the ground in Pennsylvania. You see, you know, enthusiasm, hope and happiness on the one hand, and you see sort of a dark, backward-looking vision on the other hand, with a lot of kind of punitive conversation and threatening talk. Congressman, I...

I take your point on that. John Fetterman, Senator Fetterman in that interview with Dana Bash kind of acknowledged, despite all of what you just laid out there, that Donald Trump does seem to have a connection with voters in Pennsylvania. Why?

You know, I think that there still is a feeling amongst some of the electorate that they have been forgotten and that they are looking for somebody who sees them in a way that they feel is not around in the environment. And so I feel frustrated because I feel as though somehow

all of us have not been able to break through and communicate all of the decent and good things that are happening under democratic control with a democratic White House and all of the really amazing things that have happened as a consequence of the Biden administration and hopefully of the Harris administration. You know, you stand on a street corner and you're watching people

pull the lead pipes out of our communities because they've been there for more than 40 years while we've known they've been hurting our children and our families because of the Biden administration and hopefully a future Harris administration. Those pipes are being eliminated. People are being more safe. And as a result, there's also jobs that are being created on that corner. And so I think there really is a disconnect that we're still struggling with to try to communicate really what the Democratic Party

platform is about and about the harmfulness of the Republican platform. Yeah, I mean, you really laid it laid it out right there. These these tensions, these questions. And of course, we're finally going to get some answers from the voters who always get the last say tomorrow. Congresswoman Chrissy Hoolan, very grateful to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.

All right, let's turn out of this. Donald Trump telling NBC News that he is tentatively okay with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s plan to get rid of fluoride in public drinking water. Over the weekend, Kennedy tweeted the Trump administration would, quote, advise all U.S. water systems to remove fluoride from public water on day one. The CDC recommends fluoride in water as a cost-effective way to improve oral health. The former president has said if he wins tomorrow, he'd bring Kennedy on to work on health care issues.

We don't know what I'm going to do. I talked to the president about it yesterday, and he asked me what I wanted, and I said, we're developing a proposal now. I want to be in the White House, and he's assured me that I'm going to have that. I want to be in the position where I'm most effective in the chronic disease epidemic, and I'm confident that if I wanted to do HHS secretary, the president would fight like hell to make that happen.

The president would fight like hell to make this man, RFK Jr., his HHS secretary. Let's just rewind the tape. Let's remember all of the things that we have learned about or relearned about RFK Jr. in this election cycle. Watch this. And that woman in the van in front of me hit a bear and killed it. A young bear.

So I pulled over and I picked up the bear and put him in the back of my van because I was going to skin the bear. And ever since that guy wrote the article about me saying I ate a dog, it hasn't been the same. Daddy would never do something like that. It was a goat. From the National Marine Fisheries Institute saying that they were investigating me for collecting a whale specimen 20 years ago. Have you killed any whales in your lifetime?

Maybe a brain worm ate that part of my memory. The bear, the dog, the whale, the brain worm. And now he's going to get to, you know,

take the fluoride out of the water if he wants to. My issue with the clip from Fox News the other day, a lot of I's, a lot of me's. No one's voting for RFK. No one cares what he has to say. It doesn't matter unless he wins. If you're a surrogate, stop talking about yourself. Stop talking about the top of the ticket. Because unless the top of the ticket wins, RFK, you're not getting anything. So that is my issue. And I think probably one of the things we both sides agree on is

For the last week, surrogates probably need to take a backseat. Too many surrogates and causing more headaches than not. I got to say, if Donald Trump does win, I'm really looking forward to the Senate confirmation hearing of RFK Jr. as HHS secretary. It would be quite a scene. I'd also just say, you know, Donald Trump, part of the reason RFK Jr., I can tell you, was wary of endorsing Donald Trump was because he didn't totally trust him.

and clearly what's been going on is that Trump has been saying you're making some promises about what his role be in an rfk junior is going out on TV being like well John Trump said this told me this yeah right I mean I do think this also provides a window into what a potential Trump administration could look like and his cabinet and that is important for voters you know to hear that somebody who has made health claims that have been debunked whether it be about

linking vaccines to autism, you know, again, debunked by most health experts, by health experts, excuse me. Yes, right. And just make even fluoride and water, you know, the idea that you could be providing that this provides a window into how, you know, people who are leading the country, who it could be that's leading our country. That's important for voters to know. Indeed.

All right, still ahead here on CNN This Morning, in just over 24 hours, just under 24 hours, well, over 24 hours, polls are going to open in the key commonwealth of Pennsylvania specifically. Up next, we're going to chat with Mark McKinnon about how comments he made at Trump's Madison Square Garden rally might tilt a key demographic in the must-win commonwealth. Plus, Donald Trump demanding equal time after Kamala Harris made a surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live. Really laugh like that, do I?

And I would just tell him that desperation is the worst cologne. I'd like to remind everybody that Biden wrecked his by 80,000 votes. And now we're going to be back in the same situation.

Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman slamming former President Trump over his repeated claims of voters fraud in the Keystone State, where nearly 1.8 million have already voted early. Both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump set to spend their final day before the election in the battleground Commonwealth in the hopes of winning over those waiting until tomorrow to vote. But for Pennsylvanians who've been bombarded by political texts, commercials, emails for months, they are just ready for it all to be over.

It's been going, I feel like it's been going on forever, all the endless text messages and the emails and then now in a blink it's upon us. I've already voted.

All right, joining us now, Mark McKinnon, former advisor to George W. Bush, John McCain, and the creator of Paramount's The Circus. Mark, good morning. Wonderful to see you. We can't confirm one of our producers has a 610 area code because she grew up in the same area that I did. And I am really glad that I no longer have a 610 area code. It's just on. It's so much to deal with. You spent some time in Pennsylvania in the last couple of days and you were particularly talking to Puerto Rican voters there. What'd you pick up on the ground?

Yeah, I'm here on the ground in Philly and have been here for most of the week and will be through the election. I think you had some really unique insights there.

last week when we were talking about the garbage thing in Puerto Rico. And it really got my attention. So we looked into it a little bit more and went to an AOC rally yesterday. And I want to tell you, you were right. First of all, every Puerto Rican in Pennsylvania has heard about the garbage comment. They all know about it. Two, they're all pissed about it.

I mean, again, you were right. I mean, there's this real pride thing in Puerto Rico, and there's like nothing more that Trump could have done to offend Puerto Ricans than to describe their country as garbage. And three, I'll tell you that we talked to a Trump voter, a previous Trump voter who is now voting for Harris, in addition to all the other voters that were there who were Harris voters, they're just on fire. So the Rivera's are on fire, Casey, out here, I'll just tell you.

And I have one other insight I want to mention about the Seltzer poll that I think is interesting. I think that there is a huge, I think a big story is going to be the granny gap. I mean, the thing that caught my attention in that poll, and you talked about it a little bit earlier, was the numbers, the polling with women over 65. So...

Harris is winning that number by 35 points. And just to put that in context, when Trump won in 2016, he won women over 65 by nine. When Biden won in 2020, he won them by 13. So she's winning by 22 more points than Biden won in 2020. So, I mean, that is a huge number. And again, let's say Seltzer's half wrong and she's got a great record. I know her too.

And I think the way she looks forward and not backwards is a really unique way of looking at polling that doesn't model after 2020. And I've been saying all along, this is going to be nothing like 2020. So look at the granny gap. I got a feeling this is going to be substantial. You heard it here first, the granny gap. It's great. You know, it'll fit on the banner, right?

There you go. That's honestly fascinating. First of all, fascinating about we talked to on the show, Eddie Moran, who's the mayor of Reading, Pennsylvania. He's Puerto Rican. It's a majority Latino city. And he reflected what what you're saying, which is that there were a lot of people who were like maybe they weren't even paying attention to the election. Maybe they were kind of interested in Trump.

But then this crossed their phones and they got angry about it. And all of a sudden there are more Puerto Ricans who are coming off the couch, which I think sounds like you picked that up, too, which is really interesting. But can we spend another? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Well, the other thing that I didn't realize that really surprised me, 7 percent of voters in Pennsylvania are Puerto Ricans.

I mean, in a race that could be decided by a margin of one or two percent, if you have seven percent of a population who are all on fire because of this issue, again, that could change the outcome of this election just among Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania, which I think is incredible.

- Yeah, no, it's certainly been a subject of text messages among the Puerto Rican members of my family, which is, I think, kind of part of what sparked this for me. - Well, you nailed it a week ago. You nailed it a week ago. You had it right. - You are too kind. Let's talk briefly, as we wrap up here,

The Iowa poll, what do you think? I mean, I have not talked to anyone. We have not talked and kind of the panel seems to agree that we can't really find anyone that actually thinks that Harris is going to win Iowa. Now, maybe Ann will turn out to be correct. But if it's true that Trump is going to win there, how do you explain what she's finding? Well, listen, again, let's just say she's half right. She's been the most reliable pollster that I've ever worked with in my career. And I've worked with a lot of them.

So, if directionally she's right, and Trump just wins Iowa by a lot less than we thought he was going to, that just has huge consequences for the actual swing states. So, again, I think if Seltzer's half right about Iowa, I think Harris could win all seven swing states. I'll just say it now. I know you're not on the prediction, but I'm getting in it. Harris is going to blow the doors off, and it's going to be because of women and the grand gap.

So this is our last Monday together before the election. Obviously, we'll hopefully be talking next, you know, a week from today and we'll have a lot more information. But what's your final prediction here? You gave us a little bit of that, but distilled. Who do you think wins and when do we know?

I listen, I think that we have overcomplicated this by a lot. I think this is the first post-Obs election. I think there are more women in America. I think more women are going to vote. There's an enthusiasm gap that's like 10 points. We got the granny gap now. Add that all up as simple math. Harris blows the doors off and wins big.

All right. You heard it here first, Mark McKinnon. Thank you very much. Good luck the next 24 hours. See you soon. All right. Let's turn out of this Saturday Night Live fans saw double this weekend. What do we always say? Keep Kamala and carry on a lot. I'm going to vote for us. Great. Any chance you are registered in Pennsylvania? No. Well, it was worth a shot.

The vice president making a surprise appearance in SNL's cold open just days before the election. Of course, she now joins a long list of candidates who have appeared on the show during their campaigns. You used to call me on the cell phone. So you dressed as yourself? Well, you know, Hillary, I have nothing to hide. I enjoy being myself.

I'm not gonna change who I am just because it's Halloween. Well, that's... that's great. I ask you, what should we be looking for in our next president? Certainly, someone who is very, very, very old.

Pretty good roundup of everyone on SNL. Now, of course, Trump ended up having to get equal time from NBC after the FCC raised alarms about this. Of course, the rules that dictate a broadcast network has to offer equal time here during a campaign. But how'd she do, Alex, on SNL? Even the fact that she made fun of her own laugh. Voters like people that are self-deprecating, especially in politicians.

My Rudolph is fantastic. I think that skit was great. I also like the What's That Name skit with John Mulaney and Senator Tim Kaine as well. You know, he should not be overlooked here, even though that whole skit was about him being overlooked. That one was good. Wait, hold on. I think we have that. The Tim Kaine SNL skit. Can we watch that? It looks like we have that. It's on my sheet.

I was Hillary Clinton's vice presidential running mate. At the time, you said it was the most important election in American history and that democracy was on the line. It's been less than eight years. What's my name? Hi, it is an honor. Not only does he look exactly like Tim Walz, his name was also Tim.

Really? His name was Tim? My name is still Tim. I exist. I'm a senator representing Virginia. Of course you are.

All right, if we're handing out points for self-deprecating, like Tim Kaine, you win. Yeah, you win. That was awesome. What did you think? I thought it was pretty good. It was standard. There was a Tim Scott joke in there, so I appreciated that. Look, it's always actually kind of funny, right? Like, Tim Kaine was very, very close to being the next vice president, and now he's just running again for re-election in Virginia. So there's an anonymity to either Walls or Vance, whomever loses.

They kind of will go either go back to the Senate or go back to the governor's mansion in Minneapolis-St. Paul. So there was one other thing that stood out to me that's funny. It's not from this SNL, but it's part of kind of the closing message here in the last 24, 48, however many hours we are now out from the polls closing tomorrow night. This is an ad that Will Ferrell cut for Kamala Harris. Let's take a look. This election is going to be one of the closest in history.

your vote will make the difference. That means you, Gary, oh, blah, blah, blah, I'm just one person. No, shut the up, Gary. Last time, only a few thousand votes kept Trump out of office. And this time, we will hold you personally responsible, Gary.

Matt, what do you think? I thought it was actually pretty funny. I thought it was a much improved, him and Billy Eichner did like something, a man on the street thing I thought was like very weird. That was actually funny. I thought that was pretty good. It also sort of reminds me of what Trump has been saying in some of his rallies. Yes, yes. Where he's like, you know, you have to get, not Gary, but he's like, you have to get him off the couch. Yeah.

All right, so look we got a minute here we're one day out from the election quick whip around What are you watching for in the next 24 hours? We've talked about the gender gap I mean what sticks out in my head though. I was just in Pennsylvania basically driving around actually following President Biden and we often say that Democrats and

President Biden before Vice President Harris have the union vote. But I saw that there was a break between union leadership and actually all that rank and file. The rank and file still divided reflecting America. The union vote is incredibly pivotal, particularly in the battleground states. Will it be divided when you talk about sort of the entire workforce? Yeah. North Carolina and Georgia, they count fast. They count early. We're going to know those results fast.

that first I think it's be indicative what ever have a long night or short they break for Harris it's gonna be short and if they stick with Trump well I'm watching that the gender gap and that role votes in that red state that will come in early to see how some of the blue wall states might break really interesting bucks County Philly turnout

Bucks County turnout, there's a smaller version to us, our party back in the economy. And if Philly turnout, if African-American vote is still low like it has been in the South, that could be a good sign for Trump. Yeah, no, it's very interesting. And I mean, Bucks County of all those colored counties, the one that may have better signs for Trump than say Chester or Montgomery. All right, here we go, guys. Tomorrow's election day. Thanks to all of you for being here. Thanks to all of you for joining us. I'm Casey Hunt. Don't go anywhere. CNN News Central starts right now.