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And you know me, I haven't slept much in the last 10 years of my life. So I get the aura ring and lately the results have been a little alarming. Okay. Every morning I wake up and my REM and deep sleep is like 30 minutes and 10 minutes. And it's blinking saying, okay,

You better go. Like, it's almost like a car needs service. The oil needs change. They said, like, alert. You got some serious issues. You didn't need a ring for that. Well, I mean, and I want this to be noted. You said within a law fresh. Hold on, blood. You said within the last 10 years.

And I've been retired for 10 years. So I don't want to hear nothing about that. Oh, Marsha, you took 10 years off my life. I'm waking up and there's none of that. No, that's just how you've been getting down. So I actually was helping you, to be honest. You were helping me. But anyways, Gavin, this ring is the worst thing in my life because it's showing when I wake up. Like last night, I had three hours and 36 minutes of sleep.

And about 12 minutes of REM sleep. Sorry, Gavin, you only got seven and a half hours. You're a little tired right now. Yeah. It was nine and a half, if you want to really know. Yeah. You could sleep that long? Well, what happens after I, you know, the massage in the morning, I go to bed.

Get a little, yeah, it takes me a little while to wake up from the early morning massage. Is you flexing right now or is you busting jokes? Come on. I've already been on a marathon. I've already been working out whole thing. I get my workout after this.

Gavin, did you do the cold tub this morning in the hotel? Did you put some ice in there? Yeah, cold tub. If you knew what hotel I was at, there ain't no cold tubs here, brother. But you can make that. You just throw this. You get one of these right here. Are you, by the way, Marshall, cold tub. Put your finger in there. Was that a thing back in the day? I mean, you...

acting like you're the old guy, 10 years retired, which you ain't 10 years retired. But were you guys cold pledging all the time or is this some new fad? I couldn't do that. If it was the extremes, I couldn't do hot tub, cold tubs. Hell no. I could never do the extremes. Needles. But for sure. Oh, shit. But I will tell you this, though. We used to do...

A lot of massages. I probably get anywhere from four to five massages a week. Was that, I mean, right after the game or was that part of the whole training staff or is that just on, is that your own dime, own time? Yeah, this was outside of the Philistines.

outside the facility. See, Marshawn, the difference between me and Gavin is that Gavin's more of the new school athlete. He needs a lot of, you know, massages, cold plunges, sauna, red lights and whatnot. Red light therapy, PEMF. We just go play, Marshawn. I don't even know what that is, but it sounds, I saw it on some video. Yeah.

Doug low-key trying to call you soft, bro. Marshawn, you and I are old school. We just spit on it. We just spit on that thing and go. You know what I mean? Man, look, the funniest thing is we had some OGs from down south when I first come in the league. And I used to bust these jokes and shit like, yeah, man, put some Robitussin on it. Put some Robitussin on it. Man, I'm hurt. I think I broke my leg. Oh, shut the fuck up. Put some Robitussin on it.

Everything was put some Robitussin on it. I just remember my grandma for whatever, for whatever, she would have some Robitussin. Well, Marshawn, Gavin, you remember we had that icy hot stuff. Remember the icy hot? Icy hot. It was. Yeah. I mean, Jesus. I mean, I just I remember the two aspirins, but Robitussin. That's a good thing, brother.

I like that. Now they have, you're right. Now they got them all in, you know, they fly them to Norway for treatments. You know, they're always overseas. What the hell is going on in the NFL? Everyone flies overseas. Oh, shit. Aaron Rodgers overseas. Everyone has some little look. See now that now that's some different shit, but I will tell you, I remember this was, I think this was like my, maybe my,

My second or my third year. I had my brother there, man. Shout out Sidney Rice. He had got hurt in like the first, second quarter of the game. So we come in at halftime. You feel me? I'm like, bro, you good? Like, hell no, man. Like, I'm out. I'm like, oh, damn. He like, no, I'm out. I'm like, what the fuck you mean you out? Like, you ain't going to finish the game, right? He like, no, I'm out on my way to the airport.

I'm about to fly to Switzerland. What the fuck you mean? You finna fly to Switzerland? He's like, man, yeah, they got this treatment out there that I can use. And I'll just be out for like two weeks. I said, what the fuck, bro? I'm about to get ready to go back out here for the second half. And you talk about you finna fly out.

To Switzerland? Yeah, Gavin, you got to legalize stem cells in the U.S. Everyone goes to Panama. Oh, that's what it's for. It was stem cells. This motherfucker went to Switzerland in the middle of a motherfucking game. In the middle of the game. Yeah, bro, he left in the middle of the game, bro. I've had clients do that. I know. Well, Marshawn, you never left in the middle of a game for any reason. No.

No, hell no. I wouldn't. No, that was some of the most. What you talking about again? I probably left toward the end of the game. Okay, the end. All right, fine. Jesus. I'm on to you, man. I'm on to you. There was one game. I can't remember if it was in Chicago. Morshawn didn't get off the training table. I remember John had a call. He said, Morshawn's not getting off the table. He had something wrong with you. Remember?

Yeah, that was Kansas City. We got Woody in the waiting room, guys. Oh, good. Hello. There's Woody. How's it going? We're raging against the Cincinnati Bengals, and your name came up. Oh, right. Yeah, they've been doing pretty good. Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good.

Thanks for joining us, buddy. Yeah. And Woody, we got the governor up at 645 in the morning, California time. He hasn't been up this early. I don't know how long he's loving life. I didn't even go to bed. Give me a break. Give me a break. Damn, bro. I wish I could shake your hand, bro. Yeah, I'd like to shake yours too, Marshawn.

Yeah. You so stupid, Billy. Every time I see that, brother, I swear that that. Oh, my God, man. That shit is fucking hilarious, dog. I grew up on that. Thank you.

I grew up on that. Well, Marshawn, let me welcome to our great new podcast the three-time Academy Award nominee who starred in iconic movies, People vs. Larry Flint, White Man Can't Jump. I can, Marshawn, but a lot of people can't. The Edge of Seventeen, an epic role as Woody and Cheers in the hit show True Detective, also hosts one of the top podcasts on the planet, Wherever I Know Your Name, sometimes with Ted Danson.

And Woody, the owner of two of my favorite places in California, Holy Water in the Woods. Yes, I am a customer. The legendary Woody Harrelson. Woody, welcome to Paula's Ticket. Well, I hope I can live up to that intro. A motherfucking G.

A motherfucking G. So, Woody, how is Budapest right now? It's actually pretty great. I like it here. It's a beautiful city, and the people are really cool. First time out there, Woody? Yeah, yeah. I've been out here for six weeks. Yeah, it's pretty. What do you got going there, Marshawn, honestly? Man, a little something to calm my nerves, man. I'm meeting a fucking legend, so I needed to make sure that I was right, man. God damn.

I'm going to have to get you over to the woods, dude. Man, hey, look, it'll be a motherfucking honor. Hey, Woody, he's in L.A. right now. He can pop over after he's done taping some shows today, Woody. Oh, great. Shoot over there. Just right in we go. All right. Matter of fact, you know what? I think I can make that work. Woody, by the way, when did you open that place? What was the inspiration for that place? Well, um...

You know, a buddy of mine, Samba, great guy. He'd been wanting to get me involved for years because he had some dispensaries that he was already operating. And so he asked me if

He kept asking me to try to do it, and I didn't think I should do it. But then I saw this place, which is literally, it's so beautiful. You know, it's a consumption lounge, too. Consumption lounge. We call it the Don Jaeger Garden back there, and we have...

We have koi ponds, macaws, tropical fauna, it's greenery. It's like literally this is the most beautiful dispensary in the world. Everyone who goes there says the same thing.

So, hey, Gavin, picture us in Costa Rica with that little Buddha statue and some tiki wood like you're in Bali. That's what it's like. And by the way, I spent a good Sunday afternoon back there for about four hours. Not a good time, Woody. Yes, I did.

Well, Doug, you're going to have to let me know next time you shoot over there. I will, for sure. You got some good edibles because that's Doug. Yeah, we got all of it. We got everything you need.

For sure. Well, then look, because I got a brand called Doty. Oh. Yeah, we might have to get some Doty in there then. Yeah, well, bring it on over and show it to the guys. You know what? If you're going to go, I got to tell my buddy so that he's ready for you. Yeah.

Yeah. My partner. Is that the Dodie? What the hell is that, Marshawn? Yeah, that's a good Dodie right there. Hybrid. Oh, yeah, that looks pretty good, dude. Yeah, real, real, real awesome. This is all above my pay grade. Literally, I'm the odd man out with this crew. Jesus. Oh, don't trip, Gavin. We're going to get you a blunt. No, I ain't. Give me a couple. I got to get termed out before I'm seen hanging out with you and Woody. Well, look, I'm going to tell you like this. I'm going to tell you like this. On your term out,

I'm going to be right there waiting for you. It's like coming right out of prison or something. It's a scene right out of prison. Your release date. Hey, Woody, you never thought this podcast would be the governor and agent and beast mode, Woody. And we talk about everything. I mean, we're trying to get to your level at your podcast, Woody, but we've had fun doing it. That's cool. No, I saw one you did. It was really good. I really like the way you guys interact.

And it's cool you're doing that, Governor. I'm really psyched you're connected with these guys and making a dent. Not hanging out with lobbyists, not hanging out in the halls of the Capitol. Come on, brother. These are my kids, man. Not the one that made them, but the one that raised them. You know what I mean? I'm trying to get them right.

Yeah. Hey, Woody, before we get back to your great places in L.A., I had a question for you. As an agent, you look at some of these young kids come in the NFL that I represent, and you're going back to your start when you got on Cheers in your early 20s.

Uh, and the fame you had back then and, and the stardom, uh, was it, was it hard looking back and kind of jumping right in and here you are in one of the famous shows of all time. Uh, did you, were you equipped to deal with that the right way back then looking back? No, no, not at all. I, I think it's a very difficult, uh, prospect, uh,

You know, you know, you've seen it. You've seen it with all these people you represent once they get their head full of fame. And I always say, look, it's no problem. People telling you you're great. That's fantastic. The problem is when you start to believe it, you know, you need to not, you know, to get sucked into this. It's really it's a battle against the ego.

And I mean, I I faced it. I still face it. You know, it's just it's a really difficult battle. You know, everybody telling you the cats meow and you and you just got to try to not absorb it. They catch me out as a new one. And did you and did you have good advisors back then, Woody, as far as agents and managers helping the money and all that early on? Or you just kind of jumped right in and kind of learned as you went?

Well, yeah, I kind of learned as I went, but now I got a great team. But, Marshawn, you must have had to deal with that in a big way. You know, everybody telling you how great you are, and if you –

You know, if you just start to look feel superior to everyone, then you're then you're in trouble. All of you guys. Yeah, man. I had to be honest with you. I had a I had a great team and it was really it was really my family. Like I had good family members throughout my process that really, you know, kept me level headed. So it was very, very, very much interesting. Yeah.

But my mom, on the other hand, that's a different story because she took that shit and she ran with it. And now I will believe my mother. My mom is more famous than I am. Everybody know and love Mama Lynch.

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but we will find someone who can. Listen to the How to Do Everything podcast on iHeartRadio. But Woody, here's a great story about Marshawn. You know, it's been known Marshawn has saved most of his money and just spent the endorsement money. And he's always kind of gone to me and my wife actually about some big purchases. One year, they win the Super Bowl. He says, hey, Fresh, they call me Fresh. He's fresh. I really want this Lambo. I said, how much is it?

He says, 625. I said, 625 fucking thousand? He's like, yeah. I said, hell no. Hung up the phone. I said, no. He called me back a couple weeks later. Dude, I really want this Lambo. And I said, Marshawn, it's $625,000. No. Call me again. And I said, Marshawn. He said, look, Doug, I don't ask for a lot, but I really want this car. I said, all right, here's the deal. You got three appearances, 200 grand apiece.

that if you do these three appearances for the 600, then buy the car because you didn't want to do them. I said, okay, go do them. And he did. And one was like an autograph thing. One was something else. And he bought the car lime, lime, green Lamborghini. It's some kind of green. Looks like a Skittle. Looks like one big Skittle. Oh my God.

That was his one big purchase advice he ever had, but he did it by the three appearances. Why you out here airing me out? See, this is what happened. I love you have to beg Doug for, you know, spend your own damn money, man. No, no, that's not it. So I called Shiloh, and she was like, no, I just don't think it makes sense. And at the time, I was stuck in this mindset where I'm still in. Like, if I can't buy it twice and be comfortable, then I don't do it.

And when I did those signings, I was at a point in time where I could do it twice and it wouldn't be no, I mean, it wouldn't be too much of an issue. So I pulled the trigger on it.

And has that been a gratifying thing for you? Oh, I still got it. That was the wrong answer, Woody. He was supposed to say material things don't move me anymore. More spiritual. That's my baby, man. That's my baby. By the way, Woody, just back to fame. I mean, I think the first time, you don't even know this, I was a kid running around in Hana at the Hana Airport with a

with I think Chris Christopherson and this guy, James Meeker, Jimmy Meeker, Jim Meeker,

J.J. Meeker and met you many, many moons ago, but you've been out in Hawaii for forever. I mean, is that part of sort of the... I mean, we talk about the spirituality, talk about being level-headed, talking about addressing the issues of fame and not getting too full of yourself. You've notably sort of pulled away from being in the center of that spotlight, at least out here in California, right? Yeah, yeah. I went to...

Maui, yeah, they just don't care about that kind of thing. So it's really, it's cool. But then, you know, now I've been more in Austin. You know, I still go to Maui as well, but I've been more in Austin and I got to say, it's just a better life.

It's hard living in L.A. The traffic alone is brutal. Although I do have a motorcycle. But yeah,

Anyway, what were you doing there? We were involved in the Hana Ranch. We're still involved in the Hana Ranch. Oh, that's right. I think I met you. We talked about that. Yeah, a long time. But you were out there. But you were a Hawaii guy for a long time, though, right? I mean, you spent a decent part of your life out there, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I was in Costa Rica before that. I just decided I wasn't going to raise my kids in L.A. You know, I just couldn't do that. Well, then, man, that made me feel a little better because I went and got me a spot in Waialua.

out there close to North Shore. Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly what I mean. The quality of life out there is is solid as fuck. Like, I mean, I get up, go walk through the food trucks and I mean, don't nobody care. Hey, what's up, man?

Hey, brother. Hey, bro. I'm picturing you on a surfboard. Oh, hell no, man. I don't know why, but that water in that damn board and my because I got impeccable balance. I mean, my balance is immaculate. But for whatever I get up on that damn board, I can't do it.

But it is worth it. I tried it, though. Woody, one thing, talk about trying things and can't do it. I mean, you've belied that in your career. You've been a risk taker. You've tried. You've been across genres in terms of comedy and drama. You've worked with some of the most iconic actors, obviously directors. And, you know, I mean,

obviously something like deep drive that motivates you, that still has you going after all these years, Doug did the intro. We could have still been talking about your bio and all these extraordinary movies you've been in, but you're still at it. You're out there right now filming. You could dial it up. You can, you can hang out in Austin with those three kids retire. But what's, what's the drive. What's the motivation. You still trying to be something. Where is, where's that balance in terms of your own personal ambitions, the ego, you talk about the ego, the,

your own desire to sort of be fully expressive? Where are you on that journey? Well, that's a good question. You know, I guess I feel...

uh you know there's just so many good things good stories you know i'm really i'm a storyteller in a way you know uh so i i just want to be a part of these stories and they just they keep coming down the pipe i can't even keep track of them all it's like i feel extremely blessed to you know just continue to you know continue to work to continue to do what i love but i do love it i mean i would

If I hit the lottery, I could hit that California lottery. I'd still be doing it, you know? What's been your favorite project? My favorite? I mean, they're all my babies, you know. Yeah. They're all. Man, I'm really hung up on this white man can't jump.

Do you really ball? I love that. Yeah, yeah. In fact, I've been balling here on Sundays, playing full court. You know, I went from, you know, I've been playing a lot of, you know, paddle. Oh, the, oh, the. With the glass back and the sides. Yeah. I've been playing a lot of that. But I got into, you know, playing hoops again.

And full court. And I was like, oh, my God. Now that's some cardio. You got damn right it is. That is some cardio. Are you playing? I play a little hoop just to get cardio in.

More of a defensive player. I'm like a Draymond Green out there just fouling the shit out of everybody. Can Doug and I go on record? We're two white men that can jump just for the record. Man, Gavin. Is that right? Still. Yes. Yes. Can you dunk, Gavin? Gavin, we know I can. Can and could are kind of adjacent words.

You guys are still playing? Are you still playing hoops? Playing a little bit, yeah. Playing a little bit. But still, I'm a baseball guy, Woody. I can still go out. I mean, you get me out there, home run derby or something. We're going to have to play strikeout then, guys. So, Woody, I played baseball and basketball in college, and I played against those great Vegas teams. I'll never forget playing against Stacey Augman and Larry Johnson.

and Stacey Ogwin comes down one time, I mean, this fucker jumps right over me, and I'm thinking, I got the block, and this guy didn't even touch me. I said, okay, this game is not long for me. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Hey, Woody, let me ask you a question. We always say on this show, my tagline in Marshawn's is almost like we're on borrowed time. And what we love is a lot of people in this world live to work and a lot of people work to live. We've all been blessed to live to work, although Gavin sometimes probably thinks he works to live because his job sometimes will get to him. But me and Marshawn at least live to work. And I know you do, too.

Take me through the cell phone thing because I'm not no bullshit. I get probably twelve hundred texts a day. So when I do walk away as an agent, I can't wait to take this phone and throw this thing away. And you've lived without a cell phone. I don't believe that. Is that true? I love that.

Yes, close to five years now, four and a half years maybe. Yeah, I just was it became like another appendage. And I was just I was using it too much. And then my daughter, she gave up her phone. And I said, you know, I got to do that. And she says, when? And I was like, oh, I don't know. Two weeks, two weeks later. And got rid of it. Got rid of it.

I've been trying to wing myself off of it, so I went and got one of these. Oh, yeah. Well, better. Better. I'm trying to wing myself off of it. So you got a dumb phone, not a smartphone, Marshawn. I like that. So, Woody, how do you then communicate and keep in touch with everybody? Is it old school house phone? I still email, but it's a long ways from the zines of things from texting and WhatsApp and everything that used to just...

you know, overwhelm me. And, you know, like I just had a whole pile of homework that I couldn't address, you know. Yeah, you got to be feeling that big time, Governor. No, it's interesting. I mean, I'm feeling in a different way, which you'll appreciate. And I love the story about your daughter. I've got four kids and two of them with the cell phones. I can't take it, Woody. I can't. And they don't listen to me. We had a contract. I literally did a three page contract

I went to this. She turns 14. We go to the Verizon store. She's emotional. I'm emotional. She calls me. I'm the first call she ever made right there in front of the manager. He's looking at us like we're nuts. We're both crying. We take a picture together. She promises and pledges based on the contract to never break it. No bullshit. Three days later, we were doing an addendum to the contract. Yeah.

The whole goddamn thing thrown out. So what I just did, Woody, it's great to be governor, brother. What did I just do? I banned cell phones, at least in schools. And now she doesn't talk to me. She can't stand me. I'm so happy about that. I didn't know you did that. That is a great thing. That's fantastic. It's like bringing it. I mean, you know, Marshawn, I know you're the young guy, but maybe a little.

Like Woody, Doug and I going to school back in the day with a TV set or something. I mean, these things are literally they're supercomputers and we never let a kid walk into school with a TV set. I mean, they're sit there on YouTube all the all day and not in all these damn apps to your point. You said anyway. Well done, Woody. Well done. Yeah. Big ass box TV with that VCR in there. You roll that in there. All you know is going to be a good day in class.

No, I tell you, it seems like it takes precedent over any, like you could be sitting there talking to someone, but always that phone has precedent. Oh, I got a call. Oh, okay, go ahead. I thought we were talking. I frequently say to people when they get on their phone, like as we're talking, and I say, listen, can you say hi to whoever you're talking about and talking to and tell them, you know, I really wish I had your undivided attention like they do. It's...

It's maddening. Jump inside the phone for that to happen. No, but Woody, it's sad. You walk through the airports and the other day I did that. I had some time. I was walking through and no bullshit. I think everybody in the entire airport was on their phone. Nobody...

People don't even order food without being on their phone. No one's talking. Everybody's got their phone, whether it be sitting down, waiting for the flight, walking to the terminal. I'm like, this could be a great movie right there. I mean, not one person does not have a phone on them. They make you get that QR code where you got to take a picture of it to order your food. They got your boarding pass on the phone. I mean, there's so much shit going on. It makes it so impersonal.

So Woody, growing up in Texas, Woody, did you play football? Were you a football fan or what'd you play growing up? Well, when I got to, I didn't play then because I was there till 12 and then we moved to Ohio. But then I did start playing football and basketball and I did some track and I also did a little bit of wrestling. Uh,

You know, I don't like to say it, but kind of an all-around athlete. No ego there. No ego. But I also did another movie you might want to check out called Champions. And it's a basketball movie as well. And it's one of my favorite movies I've done.

I love that. By the way, Woody, when, how'd you get into this? I mean, the, I mean, obviously as a world-class athlete, as a kid, I mean, you know, it was hard, I'm sure to move in the acting direction, but was there an acting bug and acting coach? Was there someone you wanted to be when you're growing up and you're like, that's, that's, that's my North star. How'd this whole thing start? Well, you know what happened? I didn't have the itch. I was in high school and, um,

At one point, after Elvis died, this is really showing you how old I am, because I was in high school at the time. And then I got this...

You know, you used to be able to send away TV guide, you send a nickel and you get five records, but you got to buy them the rest of your life. And I got one of them was Elvis's Golden Oldies. And I never used to sing in public or anything to other people, but except for sometimes on the football bus. So cut to that.

I'm in that library and it's before Christmas and there's a lot of people in there and it's very festive kind of atmosphere. And they're like, Woody, do your Elvis. A couple of guys from the team. And I'm like, there's a lot of people in there. I can't do my own. Well, just do it quiet. I don't know how to do it quiet. And they're like, come on, man. Anyway, thank God they convinced me. So I was like.

I'm all shook up. And anyway, everybody starts coming around and they're like clapping.

And before you know it, I jump up on the table in a heartbeat. So it scares me to death, you know, and the librarians clapping at the end. Everybody claps and up comes and the clapping did help. And then up comes Robin Rogers, who's, you know, one of the most beautiful girls in the school going out with, you know, like Marshawn, like the greatest athlete ever.

And she says, I'm Robin Rogers. I say, I know who you are. She says, I'm the vice president of the drama club, and I think you should come try out for the theater. And that changed my life. Yeah.

And that was it. And then you go from Cheers to a decent proposal, which is, I mean, that line is still comes up today, 35, 40 years later in terms of that whole process. So that's incredible. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was while I was on Cheers, I must say, because I was on it six years before I got to do a movie and

it was a harder thing back then to transition into movies and I was really starting to feel like okay I guess my only part is Woody Boy did I'll never do anything else it was really kind of looking that way so it was a real awesome thing when I you know got to but first I did Doc Hollywood Michael J Fox and then I did Whiteman Can't Jump and then Indecent Proposal and then

and then Natural Born Killers and then it you know just kept uh luckily going but uh yeah you know lucky lucky I wasn't working with uh with Wesley oh great I love him just an amazing guy funny really fun oh man I had a uh I was at uh some thing for the Super Bowl in in Vegas

And I ran it to him and I'm like, oh, shit, like, like, damn, you know, kind of like starstruck and shit. And, you know, I'm I'm I'm like big on fucking with people. So I did my hands like this. And he got in the full mode, like, oh, my God.

I'm like, oh, shit. He's like, yeah, what, you thought I wasn't ready? Shit, I heard about you. They call you beast mode or something. I'm like, oh, shit. But I thought he was going to kick the shit out of me or something, though. I'm like, damn, like, you still move like that? Like, oh, that shit was hella funny. Like, god damn, but. Oh, yeah, he's like a seven degree black belt, man. I mean, he is. And it's the truth. Like, still, yeah, yeah, amazing guy.

Hey, Woody, with all these, I mean, you know, the Coen brothers, obviously, you know, Oliver, I mean, some, you know, next level greatness, but there's got to be, I imagine,

somebody you haven't worked with that you're hoping to work with a project that you've sort of you're trying to sort of position yourself or just like spiritually figure out a way to land there or are you just at a point where now it's like man whatever happens happens you feel like you you know you've you've proven things to yourself or i mean is there something you really you're really hoping to conquer next or work or someone work with next well i've been i've been writing uh i'm

a musical, believe it or not. And so I want to make that happen. You know, it's all moving forward. But in terms of someone I'd like to work with, I think probably like Paul Thomas Anderson or, you know,

Scorsese, you know, that kind of thing would be Tarantino. You know, that kind of I just worked with Jim Brooks, who's a good buddy of mine, but I always did want to work with them. So, yeah. So, yeah, there's just there's great directors. It's more, you know, there's actors I'd like to work with, but the great directors really excite me, you know.

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Tune into Risky Business every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, Woody, we've got a great up-and-coming actor here. I was, you know, from Marshawn and the movie Bottoms, and he's going to film a movie next week. And what's funny, Woody, no bullshit. There's like three or four kids that came up to Marshawn at my daughter's game, volleyball game in Vegas this summer and said, hey, aren't you the guy from Bottoms?

And now, Marshawn, people are not remembering the football career, but the movie career. So, number one, we need to do something with you and Marshawn, Woody. That would be epic. You guys maybe a road trip through Budapest or Bali or something. Hold on. You got to let me get my steps in first.

You know what I mean? Right. But Woody, what advice would you give him starting out as a young actor? Not so young, not kind of young. It sounds like he's doing pretty good already, but, uh,

No, I don't know. I always thought theater was a helpful way to figure out how to do this shit. I don't know if you're going to want to do theater, but if you're doing movies already...

Why not just stay the course? Why don't we get your buddy, your buddy McConaughey and Marshawn and you three can do, do a killer. You get in the airstream and go. Well, you know, me and Matthew are, uh, we're going to start in February, uh, a show together called brothers where we play ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. So, uh,

you know, Marshawn might want to slip through on that when that's in Austin. Yeah, man. Like I said, it'd be a pleasure. Maybe, maybe I'll run by your, by your, your consumption lounge. And then I could go down there, get my mind right. And then get some big fucking ideas.

There you go. I'll be happy to, you know, I got to get your info and, you know, we got to be able to continue this conversation. Yeah. But while we're on the subject. Oh, while we're on the subject. I mean, what he's about to say, if you're hungry, don't go down there. He's going to say, what are you going to say? This is coming.

Yeah, God forbid you're hungry or thirsty. Or thirsty, Jesus. But I do think that, you know, that bill you got, I guess, A.B. 1775. Not that you remember the bill, Duffer. Not that you remember.

That's a crucial one. I mean, I got to say, you know, I have the most beautiful dispensary in the world. No question. And we're struggling just to get by. The taxes are insane. The excise tax is 15 percent. The total tax is around 35. And you got like you got you got dispensaries folding all around the state. You got from thirty eight hundred growers to.

Yeah. One thousand of them this year did not renew their licenses. I mean, the whole legal business is struggling and we're being made extinct by the the overregulation and the crazy taxes like nobody. How was it that just two months ago the guns were not no excise tax on guns and ammunition until July?

And that's now 11%. We're at 15%. And you're talking about jumping it up to 19%. Now I've become one of those guys who's always in your ear. I know. That's all good. I don't want to be that guy. By the way. Get him. Get him. Get him. We've got to shut up. Close our doors. I mean, who's going to – if the most beautiful dispensary can't make it, then this whole industry will. I hear you.

And I will say one other thing. It's crazy that people can't be – why is bars can stay open until 2 a.m., but dispensaries got to close by 10? All right. Let's unpack this. Get a pothead off the couch. I mean, you know, we're not committing crimes.

All right, Woody, let's unpack this. Marshawn, Doug, I'm about to unpack this. Let's unpack it, Gavin. A lot of layers, Woody, to what you just said. Before you begin, Gavin, don't take away my Sunday afternoon chill spot, Gavin. Don't take away my Sunday happy spot. Let me go ahead and fire up.

and make sure that, you know. How the hell did I end up with you three on this damn topic? All right. First of all, Woody, you're dealing with the guy that did the initiative to legalize. Okay. So I just want to know who we're dealing with contextually. Why are you bringing up old shit? I want to pat you on the back. Okay. But that's serious, man. I mean, a lot of politicians back then, I mean, now everybody's Russian and saying they were always on board, but no one wanted to touch this issue. And we took it on in the biggest state in the country. And we were also mindful that

Colorado was the only other state. We want to learn the lessons on the taxation and we had state taxes. Here's the key. State taxes that were a step lower out of concern about the overtaxation regulation. That said, here's the thing that became the biggest challenge and is currently the biggest challenge, localism, meaning we had to allow the city's

have flexibility and their own regulatory framework. California is so big that was part of the agreement. And then they're layering taxes on top of the state taxes and regulations in terms of time, manner, and place along the lines of what you just said at the local level. And that's stuff that we can't necessarily unpack. So we can control what we can control. That said,

I'm deeply mindful. We have cannabis cafes in California. People think this is a cannabis cafe bill. We have them, but the cafe side, you can only bring in food, prepackaged food. You can't make food on the premises. And

And so this bill, what he is referring to would allow us to prepare food on site and also allow ticketed events. So you can have some entertainment as well. And so, uh, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm processing it. Uh, we're also reforming, we got to reform the whole system. Couldn't agree with you more. Uh,

We recognize that the world we created is competing now against us because a lot of unintended consequences. What we did, the illegal market is still proliferating and a lot of these growers are struggling. So all that being said, I got, what, 72 hours to figure out what the hell to do with this bill. But you made a good point. Well, just sign it. Just let us.

You just made it very simple for you. Yeah, I mean, you're going to not let stoners get hydrated and have munchies? I mean, it don't make sense. What harm could it do? And what harm could it do to stay open after 10 o'clock at night? I got a suggestion. I got a suggestion. What's your suggestion? Why don't you have me and Doug and Marshall, why don't you have the three of us

be part of your cannabis committee will be I'll go down to Sacramento. I'm a busy motherfucker. I'll come down there. We'll go down and we will figure this shit out with you and we'll have fun at the same time.

Oh, sure. We're going to solve a problem and have fun. I ain't interested. I forget about that. Yeah, now we want to create problems and then we want to we want to blame other people and then we want to hire lobbyists to screw them up even more.

But, Woody, that's a great idea. We'll throw our good friend Snoop on the committee. So it'd be me, you, Snoop, and Marshawn. Yeah, how the hell, Woody, how do you think it's possible with all of you surrounding me and guys like that I'm not going to sign this damn bill? How do you think it's possible? Ah, bravo, bravo. I didn't say what I was going to do. I just said, how do you think it's possible?

But, Woody, you'll love this, and I'm not diverting from this. That was very diplomatic. Hey, Woody, my biggest pet peeve of the NFL has been all these years. So when Marshawn was playing, you could go drink Hennessy or tequila or Jack Daniels after games. Your body's broken down, but you couldn't smoke pot. They'll give you tort all shots, long-ass fucking needles, and shoot you up with all the damage, but you can't smoke weed.

So I was one of the biggest proponents going to the NFL. So wait a minute, you can't, you can't sit there and smoke after a game. Would you rather have someone drink Jack or tequila and get in a car or rather have some sit in the couch, heal your body, you know, light up a little bit, get your body feeling good and get ready for next Sunday. So the NFL finally came around. Thank God they did. You know what I mean? So, um,

Again, me and Marshawn, we're sort of the subcommittee already, but we're glad to add you to the subcommittee, Woody. Woody will be a senior advisor to your junior staff. Thank you. Yeah. Senior advisor. He's the OG in this space, man. He was the one planting hemp seeds back in the day. You guys, this is before you guys were born. Yeah.

know who we're dealing with here for sure yeah but uh i think it is an important thing because a lot of these growers are going under a lot of the uh retailers are going under and the illegal business is now bigger than the legal business and and uh you know they don't pay taxes they don't

They don't have regulations. They don't have a license fee. And they got some good bud. And they got good bud. And you don't shut them down. You just give them a fine. I'm like, why don't I do that? That sounds better. Why am I going the legal route? Well done. You know, I'm not going to harangue you anymore, but I do want to be able to continue this conversation. And maybe it should be on me and Teddy's podcast.

Well said. No, I appreciate it. Get him on your home turf and then just go get him. Just go crazy. Just go get him. But Woody's point is right. I mean, one simple bill is not going to solve the broader industry issues. And by the way, Woody, just the good news is we're finally seeing progress nationally. I mean, after years and years, it got stubborn. No one was moving. Now it seems like folks are moving and it's becoming less ideological now.

Even, I mean, you know, even got, I don't want to bring up politics, but this former president that seems to be on board a Florida initiative. So it's interesting how the politics have moved, but now the regulations have to catch up to where the public is overwhelmingly. You did get it all started to your credit and God bless you for doing it. But it shouldn't be that Michigan with one third population now has more sales. Right.

Man, I read that talking point. By the way, I had to look that up. Hey, Woody, keep bringing them, baby. Did you guys set Woody up? Is this a whole damn... This is one of those programs where you got... Hey, Woody, delete my email I sent you this morning, okay? Delete that email I sent you.

No, I appreciate all the good shit you do, Governor. And I really, you know, you're doing so many good things and you're on top of so many good things from, you know, climate control to keeping freaking cell phones out of the classroom.

And let's not let this industry die, you know? Don't let it slip through your fingers. Don't let it slip through. So, Marshawn, it sounds like you're going to slip down. You're going to do some reconnaissance. You're going to tell me exactly what Woody needs. And I'm sure you'll be advising me this afternoon on this damn bill. I think you should sign the bill at the woods, by the way. Yeah.

Yeah. Get him over there. That's the worst idea. I'm not going to lie. I love my day activities, man. I'm not bullshitting. My Sunday there one day, it was, dude, the three hours I spent there, I could have spent about 12. It was just lovely, man. It was just, it was, Gavin, it brought us back to our Costa Rica travels. I mean, you just thought we're in the rainforest and it was just, you know, some beautiful people walking around. It was some good smells, some good vibes. Yeah.

It was everything, man. It was nice. And you know me. I like my Sundays, Gav. Well, we got to do this together next time of a Sunday, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. No pressure, Gavin. No, I know. I'll serve the first appetizer. I'll come out.

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Hey, Woody, let me ask you a question. Your podcast is killing it, and hopefully you're going to give us some advice for ours. But how did that start? Did Ted call you and say, I'm doing this? Did you call him? Did you guys get together? And is there anybody else you would have done that with, or how did that come to be? Yeah, I don't know. I had no desire to do it. I don't like to add to my work. I'm a lazy motherfucker. In fact, I'm incredibly – I'm like a good worker and a hard worker, but I'm a world-class loafer.

I mean, I can tee up a lollygag with the best of them. But Teddy called me and he's like, hey, man, do you want to do a podcast together? And I was like, well, if I get to hang out with Teddy, it's worth it. You know, so it's been fun and we've had some great ones. And I think maybe the Flea one, Flea's a good buddy of mine. By the way, I listened to that last night.

Oh, did you? Yeah, I did. What a great episode, man. Flea is unbelievable. I met him a couple of times, but what a, I mean, he talked about that, that yoga retreat and I was laughing. He said 10 hours doing a yoga stance. Marshawn, can you imagine? He's in some, he's almost like Aaron Rodgers drinking or smoking the woosh to whatever it is. The waskis. The

the Waskas and Flea sitting there doing a yoga pose, Gavin, for 10 hours. And then he said it changed his life and he went back again. He said that he got anxiety. Like, what am I doing here? But he stuck it through and it made sense. But no, great. That was a great episode, Woody. Oh, cool, man. Yeah, I love that guy. He's one of the most pure individuals. I was with him one time. You know, they played. I forget where it was, some big city. And he's checking out of his hotel room, right?

And he's cleaning up the bed and, you know, cleaning up here and there. And I'm like, you know, someone's coming in there here just after we leave to do just what you're doing now. And you're leaving a tip for them, a big tip.

And he goes, yeah, but I don't feel right. You know, I really like to make sure that it's not too messy for that. I'm like, this guy has such a pure he's he's a pure individual. I love that. I love that. And Woody, what do you got? You know, you're a love for me. I do. Trust me, I can shut it down and do nothing for a long time. You sound like three hours hanging out at Woody's. I mean, this is like hell is that now that you're retired, Marshawn, maybe I can take some time off.

Hey, Woody, if you had to take a killer road trip, who are three or four people you have must do in your end that you've known forever? You said, I got to have these three people go with me. Well, I'd say Matthew McConaughey, Owen Wilson, probably Flea,

You know, you're starting to get a big car there already. I think maybe just four of us might be good. And a driver. I'm just offering that's just some advice. Hey, if you want to drive. Not me, man. I'm just talking about you'll need a driver for that group. Yeah, that's true. I shouldn't be driving that.

I don't think Gavin know how to drive, though. Oh, you're going there? Really? You're doing that? You're doing the politician doesn't know how to drive thing? Batman. Batman don't know how to drive. How many years have you not driven? We're not talking about this. We're here with Woody Harrelson. We want to talk about his inspiration. But I agree. How many years since you got behind the wheel? Come on, man. Jesus.

Jesus, what the hell is this? This is a game. What are we doing the commercial break here? Don't we have to read an ad or something? No, in fact, we didn't tell you, Gavin. We're going

for two hours a day by the way he's like getting that all out of here by the way uh here's my segue were you and ted did you guys stay close all these years or did you guys i mean was there sort of decade where you sort of had to reconnect when what was did that show sort of connect you guys bond you forever we would we would uh hang out off and on but yeah we definitely uh

you know, we grew apart with all those guys. You know, I'd see them sometimes, George or Rhea or Teddy or whoever, but it's been a great thing because it's given me the chance to now every day

or not every day but at least you know when we're actively doing shows you know i gotta say i was like i thought what an easy gig you know you talk to people you know i've been listening to smart list this seems easy you turn the thing but uh it's it's some work it's some work because i'm sure you got another one after this one i mean you got to just keep rolling them

And they said 45. I said, 45? I can't do 45. I said, I'll tell you what, how about 20? And then, no, 20 is not going to do. So I said, all right, that's why it's Woody sometimes. It's Ted Dixon and then Woody sometimes because I can't do 45. I can do 19.

Well, Woody, we got to do either your show or our show again, but we got to do it in person. How about that? We got to get everybody together in studio or at the woods in LA in the courtyard in the patio. Did you see Batman over there? There's a Vito. He ain't ever going to. I'm not going to be allowed.

It'll track me down. Jesus Christ. We get you a little contact high, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no illegalities about that. No, no, no. None of your people are going to be upset about a contact. I mean,

I was in the car. And Woody, have you always been, have you always been this kind of, I mean, as a kid too, did you ever get stressed out or anxiety? Or have you always been just kind of chill and go with the flow and, and, and, and just laid back? Well, I think in some ways I'm, uh, uh,

A personality trapped in a B persona. I actually... I'm not entirely... I mean, I'm pretty laid back. I mean, I really can just relax. But yeah, as a kid, I was pretty... I'm just very in the moment. So in the podcast, you talked about almost kicking the shit out of somebody on the ski slopes. Is that a true story? Well...

Yeah. The awkward pause.

I used to have a lot of fights when I was younger, quite a lot. I don't know why, just people seem to find me, you know. I'm lucky I never fought Wes, by the way, Marshawn. I don't want to fight Wes. Luckily, that never happened. No. So they were just telling me that you did, what was it, a wild catch? Yeah, that's how we first met.

Okay. And that was a football movie? Yeah. It was like with Goldie Hawn where she coaches a school in, you know, inner city in Chicago. And, you know, I'm the only white kid on the team. And, uh, uh, uh,

You know, it's just a funny little comedy. But but I met Wes doing it. And I was like, this guy is pretty freaking awesome. Yeah, he was. He was very unique and very brilliant. You know, his mind. Even then, he was 23. He was quite brave.

So you find your white man can't jump. And then you say in the wildcats, you're the only the only white kid. So you seem to find yourself in that position pretty often. Well, yeah, that's how. In fact, when I was first learning basketball,

I went to the other side of the tracks to the, to the really where all the good players were playing. And that's where I developed my game and, and started learning. And, uh, you know, got a really good friend who helped me a lot with, uh, you know, my dribbling skills. And, uh,

I don't know. I got to get back into it. I know it's the best form of exercise. I don't know what's better. It's phenomenal. Yeah, that's all good. A complete segue, but related again, I just can't help myself because I've got to know Steve Schmidt a little bit.

But you did Game Changer. I mean, you played Steve. Do you get to know him before you did that, or did you just study the guy? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I spent time. I still – I talked to him just the other day. Yeah, I think that is one of the most amazing guys. Just talk about a brilliant political mind. I mean, things he can elucidate that I have no freaking clue about, you know. Have you –

You spent some time with him? No, he's, I mean, and Marshawn, Doug, you may not know who we're talking about, but Woody did this series on Game Change, but it was, he played Steve Schmidt, who is one of the country's most, you know, I don't want to say notorious, but

He's one of the brightest, as Woody says, political consultants out there. But he's piercing. He's tough. He's able to analyze, as you say, Woody, complex things and then distill it down and explain things in a way that few can explain them. And he's not ideologically rigid. He's a former Republican, but he's very independent in his mindset, has strong opinions, expresses them. And obviously, game change, he was working on another campaign. But

But it's he's a legend out here, Woody. He's a legend out here. Don't cross. Yeah. Now, what's going to happen with you in 2028? Well, I'm going to be working. I think I got this opportunity line cook down at the West Hollywood. And as long as that minimum wage keeps going up and up and up.

I'm okay, brother. Which we got to give you credit for. No, I tell you what. Marshawn calls Gavin Batman. So, Marshawn, what's Gavin doing at 28? What do you think? Oh, man. Jesus. I'm going to... What, your laundry or something? What the hell am I doing at 28? I thought he was going to be running for president, man. You'll be running in 28. I would bet my...

I bet everything I have you're running in 28. Hey, we tried. Hey, Woody, we tried to sneak him in 24. Oh, OK. I tried to sneak him in 24. I know. I thought he was going to sneak in there. I thought there was an opening. All right. The three of you. I mean, this thing, I think we're I've got to get to that read. We're done. We are done. We're done.

No, ain't no running now. Ain't no running now. Ain't no running now, Gavin. Ain't no running now. Woody, the great story here, all three of us, just side note, you know, so Gavin and I have been brothers now since the mid-90s. We kind of ran the streets together for a little bit right out of college.

And then Marshawn's been with me since... Mean streets of Marin County, Marshawn. You know what I'm saying? The jungles, baby, the jungles. Yeah, mean streets. There were some good road trips, too, Gal. Anyway, and then Marshawn's been my client since 2006. We all came together.

You know, the great governor here when he was mayor helped help Marshawn out with a few things with the league back in the day. Woody, let's just say there's a few minor traffic stops in Culver City that we had to make a couple of calls to 212 Park Avenue. They might have found a few things in the car, Woody. You know what I mean? Hey, Doug, Doug, quit bringing up. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah.

So that's how you guys got acquainted. That's the history, man. So we've known each other for a long time. So it wasn't just three in a shotgun approach, pick three people for a podcast. There's a reason there's a method of the madness here. Method. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Hey, Woody, it's been great to catch up, man. Thank you for, uh, thanks for joining us. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for inviting me. And appreciate you and everything you're doing, all your advocacy. And, uh, and thanks for, uh,

Thanks for putting the screws to me on this legislation. Well, I appreciate you listening and not getting upset with me. And maybe, you know, think about that. The three of us on a committee, we could do some good shit. And also, we could, you know, we want to increase the business, not decrease.

Right now, it's going the wrong direction. Hey, Woody, you don't got to sell me, Woody. Me and Marshawn are all in, and we're going to get that subcommittee formed. In fact, we'll start a subcommittee taxed after this phone call. Jesus. And don't forget to keep pressuring him. Keep pressuring him. Nice elbow there, buddy. But, Woody, in all honesty, you've been a guy. I've been a huge fan of yours, man, forever. I love your work. I love your mindset. I love what you do. It feels like we are brothers.

And you're just a great person, man, how you live your life and everything you've done, man. It's been a pleasure. And then when we told Marshawn you're coming on, I was like, God damn, Woody. And so this has been really freaking cool, man. I got to tell you, it's been really cool. And I just love what you've done, man. And I love how you keep living your life, bro. Thank you. That means a lot. And Doug, Marshawn, I'm going to get you guys of Sunday down there to the woods to

And the governor, he'll have to come through. We do have a bar next door called Holy Water, which I think that's legal for you. That's good. That's good. I love my Holy Water. All right. Well, I'll be in touch. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Woody. Take care, guys. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

I think a

A lot of people think that you're supposed to be going to therapy once you're like having panic attacks every day. But before you get to that point, I think once you start even noticing that you feel a little bit off and you can't maintain this harmony that you once had in relationships, that could be a sign that maybe you want to go talk to somebody.

There's always a benefit in talking to someone because we can all benefit from improved insight about ourselves and who we are and how we behave with other people. So if you're human, that's like a good indicator that you could benefit from talking to somebody. Find out if therapy is right for you. Visit BetterHelp.com today.

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