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Man, what's happening, man? You got more shine beats my old Lynch. Doug Hendrickson. And Gavin Newsom, and you're listening to Politically. Well, Gavin, I got to be honest with you. I'm really kind of sick and tired of people talking negative about some places in California. I just did the drive from my office in L.A. down to beautiful San Luis Obispo to see my daughter there.

and the great Cal Poly volleyball team. And let me tell you something, it is God's country. And then I drove from there all the way back home today. Are you just trying to get father of the year? Is that what you're trying to really communicate? Well, truth be told, you're not allowed to have your car as a freshman on campus. And so because of that, I was told to go pick up her car. And so I made the little quick drape trip down there.

Took her a nice little dinner, had coffee this morning, and then got on my way. But spent about five hours enjoying the beautiful coastline of California.

It is spectacular. There's no easy way to get down to Cal Poly though, from the Bay Area. So that was, again, you get extra brownie points for being down to the year. - Shout out to United. There's three flights a day. - Okay, well there's that as an alternative. By the way, what is it? Freshmen can't have cars now on CSU campuses or is that just a Cal Poly issue? - I don't know if it's CSU. I know it's Cal Poly. So if you're a freshman, you cannot have a car on campus. Which is not the worst thing in the world for a father.

to not have your daughter have a car. So I'm not that bummed about it. And you're just saying Cal Poly, like people use the word Harvard and Princeton because you're proud of the fact your daughter got into Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, by the way, which has a lot of people that were also accepted into Stanford, rejecting Stanford to go to Cal Poly.

San Luis Obispo, one of our best state schools, one of the best state schools in the country. No, it's great. And by the way, Gavin, on a better, on a brighter note too, since our co-hosts will be joining us today, they did come out today with the first time the list of the Hall of Fame entries. And of course our partner in crime, Beast Mode, is on the initial list. Now they whittled that down to 25,000.

semi-finalists in about a couple months and then to 15 and then they announced the final five I believe at Super Bowl and

So the next six, seven months is going to be pretty interesting how we go here with him. So is this like these Hall of Fame things for sports? Is it like, you know, the Oscars and Sega? I mean, where everybody's like you're hustling and you're lobbying and you're marketing, you're promoting. Or is this thing already sort of figured out or are you able to influence folks? No, nothing to promote. They figured out the writers vote. And so there's nothing to promote. There's nothing to it's not like an Oscar or an Emmy.

So it just comes down to how many people they let in. But he should be one of the guys and it'll be a fun ride for us. How many people are on this first list? There's like 15 new guys that would make sense. There's 85 guys. 85 guys. There's 15 people that make sense. And how long do you stay on the list? Is it rollover if you don't get it? 10 years. 10 years. And then you're kicked out because they're never going to get on. Yes. So this first year of eligibility, he's on there. Big deal.

Big deal. What are the running backs? Any new ones on the 15? Well, the last two running backs to get in were Edger and James and I think Fred Taylor in 20 and 21. There hasn't been a backs in four years that have gotten in. So he would be, you know, one of the first. Who are the other ones on the list that have been rolled over? His former former Seattle great Sean Alexander. Remember Sean Alexander? Yeah. Well done, Marshawn. Gavin, how's your week going? What's going on in your life this week? Bill signing, bill signing. Nine hundred and ninety one bills.

991 bills. I think there were 1,200 bills. We got this legislative session at the start of the week with 991 left to go. Tons of AI bills, tons of social media bills across the spectrum, you name it. There must be 991 problems to solve, so I've got to review all of these. There'll probably be dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds of vetoes. We're cutting through the vetoes right now.

but that's the week that's consuming me. Well, Gavin, I got a question. If I, as a person, wanted to create a bill, how do you someone create a bill for someone to get it signed? Well, you saw that, man. You saw that. You know exactly how the schoolhouse rocked.

He's just a bill on Capitol Hill, exhausted, trying to walk up the steps. You remember that growing up, right? I missed that week in school. So can you edify me? That'd be great. You don't even know how it works. Now, the only thing missing with a bill on Capitol Hill, Schoolhouse Rock are the lobbyists. That was the only thing they didn't tell you about back in the day. Now, bills come in many different shapes and forms, but fundamentally,

they flow through either by the author, meaning, uh, the legislator themselves. So if you're assembly person, why are your Senator, uh, Z you introduce it? Cause you saw a problem. You want to fix it. Or you read a constituents, uh, note, or you had someone call complaining. You said, you know what? Um,

Madam Smith, I'm going to fix this for you. I'm going to introduce a bill in the next legislative session. Or they come often through groups and organizations that try to find an author. And they basically go out and shop an idea and say, here's something we want you to fix. Or here's a loophole we want you to close. And that's where you start getting the lobbyists. That's where you get all the special interests. And that's where people oftentimes are sort of protecting their own interests and locking out other people's interests. And that's what I always have to keep my eye on.

is this about incumbency protection or is this about what's in the best interest of California and our innovation? So it's a lens to which you look positively, but also oftentimes with a little cynicism as well. Well, is there any bills, Gavin, like a mother who has an issue with something or whatever and decides to write a bill and doesn't have a lobbyist, doesn't have votes and just presents the bill to you? Not only that, we've got some heartwarming ones this year. There's an intern,

this young girl that interned for one legislator and literally came up with an idea through her internship

and got her boss to introduce it and got it through both houses of the legislature. It's on my desk. And she keeps sending me these amazing videos. And then her parents reached out saying how proud they were of their daughter, which of course got me teared up. But I love that. Like an intern coming up with an idea. And it's like one of those, I don't know, that's what it should be about. You know, real people doing real things to solve real problems. And

And and now she's just hoping I don't screw it all up and and send it back unsigned, which is another way of saying veto. I love it. OK, good. That's but it's I mean, it's you know, look, remember, California is the size of 21 state populations combined. So there are all kinds of issues from every. How many in comparison? How many bills in my my dad's great state of North Dakota are they think on the desk? I don't know. But I mean, yeah, look, look.

These legislators are all across the country are active. They don't meet every year, a lot of states, and they don't have sessions that last as long as ours. I mean, I'll give you an example in Texas. They have a session every two years.

In California, we're just basically full-time every year. So we're active and we're busy. But the other big thing that's animating us right now is not just 900 bills, but I'm in the middle of a special session, which means I extended the legislative calendar with one issue and that's to deal with the issue of price gouging and oil companies and what's going on with gas prices here in California that impact gas prices across the Western United States, particularly in Nevada.

and places like Arizona. And so it's a big deal, high stakes, and we're going to battle with our friends at Big Oil.

Good. And I just, uh, I was, I was in a hotel last night. I was watching some Oprah's out there stumping for a comma right now. I did some big special with a bunch of A-list people, correct? Yeah. We're flooding the zone. I mean, this is, this is it. I mean, this is the sprint. Uh, you're going to get early voting now nationally across the country. Uh, so we always say about, uh, we talk about elections in November that the election ends in November election day in many States as well as a month before, uh,

election ends that first week of November. So early voting, absentee ballots, and all that opportunity to make your case now. Outside of Taylor Swift, is Oprah probably the second most powerful? And of course, Obama and Clinton and them? Oprah was the dominant. She's still in many respects. Taylor Swift may be right up there with her. But yeah, those are the two biggest gets.

in politics. And that's why Trump was so taken aback by it and got so bent out of shape, not getting Taylor Swift. But Oprah is still a force, next level force in American politics. And as she said at the town hall with Harris yesterday,

She's an independent. I mean, she's not, and I know I've gotten to know her pretty well. I saw her last week, in fact, in New York. We were both on a CBS morning show. She's fabulous. She's tough, and she's incredibly bright and studied on all things politics.

And she doesn't just dial it in if you're a Democrat. She tends to vote Democratic, but that's on her social issues. And so she's all in for Kamala Harris. And that was a big deal yesterday. They raised a ton of money, but more importantly, they got a lot of new eyeballs, meaning a lot of people tuned in. And a lot of people that have been tuned out of politics tend to tune in to politics when Taylor Swift talks about it. And when people like Oprah Winfrey can't understate the importance of those policies.

those influencers, that celebrity support. But it's a little more than just celebrity support with Oprah because she's earned a different relationship of trust with the public over decades. And so it was a big day for her. Well, and the reality, Gavin, is like we talked about, people just need to go out and vote. And that's the thing. That's going to change things at local level.

the state level and the national level and just go vote. If you want to vote for Trump, vote for him. You want to vote for Kamala, vote for her, but go vote and have a voice. And do the research. Don't just be, I mean, as important as celebrity endorsements are, I think it's more important. I mean, at least that wakes you up to, all right, there's a campaign in it and there's a candidate, but it's important.

critical that people look at the issues and see if they match where the candidates are on issues that you care about. I mean, we're going to be talking to Bill Nye in a moment, the science guy, and it's all about science and scientific discovery and critical thinking. It's not about being an ideologue. It's about being open to argument, interested in evidence, and it's about dealing with issues of our time like climate change. And Bill is in the room right now.

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the bridge of the big pillars all the way to the sky in the fog. And I was so terrified. I had a panic attack and could barely come down. While you thought this was the best day of your life, it was the worst day of my life. A thousand feet above the water, cars, hundreds of feet below you rushing by and watching that blood flow. And you just gripping the white

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What I want to do, Gavin, and for our partner, Marshawn, here, is to welcome literally an icon in his field in the world, a graduate of the great Cornell University, Gavin, something you and I could not get into. No, no. Who has written dozens of books.

I wish I had him when I was a kid because all my kids grew up on it with Bill Nye in terms of his education. He's a former mechanical engineer for hosting the unbelievable TV show of better understanding and appreciation for the world around us. A legendary science educator, the great, the great Bill Nye. Welcome to Politiken, Bill. It's so good to be here. And let me just say, Bill,

Marshawn Lynch is out here, right? Somewhere. Yeah. He's, he's, he's literally finishing up filming and he's going to jump on as soon as he possibly can. But I know you're a Seattle kid. Exactly, man. I'm a Seahawks fan. I saw him play. I was in the stadium a half dozen times. I saw him play on the TV.

countless times, countless. Yeah. He'll be joining us. And Bill, he was so excited to know you're coming on and, and, and going back to we'll break, we'll save that. But I know that seismic run he had in the beast quake or something, you probably looked at and studied as well. Correct. Because I'm looking for his moves, you know, I mean, the way I'm built, you know, I, I think he's really a model for me. There you go. Guys with my physique, man.

I could do what he did, I think. I've looked at you and I've always saw you and him or him and you. Yeah, I know. We're going to talk about science and governing and all these wonderful things. All these wonderful things. Doug and I were talking before you got on a little bit about

what's going on, not from a partisan perspective or lens in our body politic with the elections coming up, not just presidential elections, but elections in every state, local school board races, et cetera. But we seriously were talking about critical thinking. We were talking about being open to argument, interested in evidence, not being ideological. And what a great segue to your career and the work you've done looking at data, looking at facts,

looking through the lens of science. And maybe we can just take it from there on some of the issues that define our times, not least of which the most important issue for me that we battle every day, and that's climate change in California. Climate change in California. And let me say, congratulations, Governor. I believe I have this number right, 100 consecutive days

uh with uh some fraction of the grid running on renewable power it's uh i mean it's remarkable that you even know that we got to 106 days in this calendar year this is unprecedented running the fifth largest economy in the world on a carbon-free engine for at least as you say some part of the day proving bill not just asserting proving we can get this done absolutely and uh you know my uh

my thing is the U S constitution. And I met many people. I, as I like to say, you can get it in paperback now. Many people, as a CEO of a nonprofit, I have gone to congressional offices, many times Senate offices, many times I've met senators, members of Congress who know the constitution took an oath to it and so on.

And they're generally familiar with Article 1, where we're going to have a Senate and a House of Representatives the way they do in Britain with their House of Lords and their Commons. But I've met a lot of people who don't know Section 8, Clause 8. Clause 8.

Congress shall promote the progress of science and useful arts. Useful arts. The word science is in the Constitution, peoples. And useful arts to me, Governor Doug, is using science to make things. Engineering. What would we do in 1786? We'd build a bridge. We'd make a plow, some harness for a horse. We might have the elements of a steam engine. We'd be doing that.

and that would be the useful arts of science. So the founding fathers, whatever else one might say about them, realized the value of science for the health and well-being of citizenry and for our international competitiveness, even in 1786. And Bill, it's interesting, and I love that you bring that up. I mean, the idea that science is in the Constitution is something that

vast majority of us are unfamiliar with. I mean, what were you? Was this intuitive? Did you grow up and then you were reading in sixth grade that the Constitution and saw the word science or even you, Mr. Science Guy? Did you come to this later in life? No, no. It was pointed out to me a long time ago. But the guy who really drove it home for me is John Morris. You know, Laurie Leshen? Yeah. Yeah.

Why do I know that name? She's head of the Jet Propulsion Lab. That's it, JPL. The first woman to head the famous JPL in Pasadena, California, where they make spacecraft that land on Mars. And her husband is a big fan of that. John Morris is a big fan. He's a heliophysicist, a studier of stars. And he is a big fan of that path.

passage. He pointed it out to me 25 years ago, and it's stuck with me ever since. I love it. It should stick with all of us. And just, you know, before Doug jumps in, Bill, I mean, you talk about that passage 25 years ago, the passage of time. Did you, I know your parents obviously outsized influence as they are on all of our lives, but where this passion for science, did that come in early age, nature, nurture?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I say all the time, I've told this story many times, but let's say I was four years old and we were playing cards and I'm going to claim we were playing crazy eights. And so maybe I was six years old, but I got stung by a bee sitting on the front porch of the house in Washington, D.C. I got stung by a bee, which was traumatic. And then my mother,

resourcefully put ammonia on it. Now, this is back in the day, everybody. Ammonia, if you don't know what it is, it's what you smell when you smell Windex. And so hardcore window cleaners, such as my mom, would buy, you still can't, buy a bottle of ammonia and dilute it and clean windows, clean glass. But the thing is, the bottle has skull and crossbones on it. My mother's trying to kill me.

And I was a rambunctious young boy. I can understand where she'd want to do that. That'd be interesting. Yeah, yeah. She talked about it my whole life. Anyway, it was fascinating. It denatured the venom somehow. And then in Ripley's Believe It or Not, in the Washington Post newspaper,

It said one week, actually, they've published a version of it many times, really, over the years. According to aerodynamic theory, bees cannot fly. And I remember thinking, wait, the bees...

The bees are flying. There's something wrong with this theory of yours. And that really did give me a lot of pause for thought. And then bees are fascinating. I had a fascination with helicopters. I love bicycles. So I became a mechanical engineer. And Doug, I think you...

read from a very, very nice intro, but I'm not a formal former mechanical engineer. I have a license. You are a mechanical engineer. Well, yes.

Well, what's interesting, Bill, is Gavin and I are around the same age. And so it's and Gavin is probably the same way yours high school as well. In high school, science wasn't cool. It was like you skip science class. You skip woodshop and no one cared about math and I'll add math to that. And at least I skipped them. Yeah. And then and then, Bill, you come along, you leave Boeing.

You do your own science show, and now you're the hippest, coolest thing in the world where all these kids now want to go to science class. They want to learn. They watch your stuff. We didn't have that back in our day at all, and I'm kind of upset about it. But the cool thing, Bill, is that you've not taught these kids that science is cool. So have you seen that evolution as well, like going back –

30 years ago today for these young kids, which I think are the most important kids to teach and learn from, that now they look at science like this is something you've always looked at, like being cool versus, you know, we didn't have cool science teachers. We didn't know to learn about it when I was in high school. So, well, I say all the time, you guys, I'm serious. I try to get it. I try to understand the influence of the Science Guy show. But it was huge. People come up to me.

Every day. See, the reason I'm a physician, the reason I'm a mechanical engineer, and I met some people in the lobby of a big building in New York over the weekend who said, hey, I'm an industrial engineer because I watch your show, and I'm an environmental scientist because I watch your show. It's really amazing. But you guys, what happened to me was...

I had parents who were really into science. They weren't full-time scientists, but they appreciated it. And we had a show called Mr. Wizard. And Mr. Wizard was, his name's Don Herbert. I met him. I had lunch with him. I went to his memorial service. He was a very influential guy on television. But since that show, or rather when we did my show, and I say we, the producers and the crew and I made the show,

we had the benefit of research. So are you of an age where you remember Beekman's World? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Beekman's World did a very reasonable thing, which was, look at this cool thing. Look at this cool thing. Here's another cool thing. Look at this. And it jumped from topic to topic. And if you're interested in science, you enjoy it.

But you don't get what educators call, they have a technical expression for it, you don't get lift. You don't really increase your knowledge unless you come to it with an interest in it. So we had the benefit of this research back in the 20th century, back in the 1900s, and we made every show about one thing. You know, everybody talks about the arc of

So each show, each half hour is about one thing. So it's dinosaurs, dinosaurs, dinosaurs. It's, um, structure, structure, structures, erosion, erosion, erosion, and you get more lift. That's, and this, we, you know, we had how to say very compelling research sponsored by the national science foundation and the, um, uh,

National Educational Organization, National Science Association, studied it. And it's very compelling. So thank you. We put our hearts and souls in it. We arrived in the universe at a time when the Children's Television Act had been created. And so stations, television stations were required to have two stations

three hours of educational programming every week. Ah! Ah! Ah! Going to destroy TV and entertainment. Yes, networks had a license to print money, and then all of a sudden they had... But so, Bill, it's interesting. You know, I'm a big believer, and so is the governor here, that, you know, life is short, and we've got to live it. So you pivot from probably making great money at Boeing to say, I want to start my own science TV show. I had a Volkswagen bug.

I did. Hey, those were hot back in the day. So, I mean, you're leading edge. Seriously, guys, when you got out of engineering school, you could, in those days, you could get a job. It was not, you know, there was demand. I mean, it was like, as I say, it was vocational school where you learn to do homework problems. I got paid to do homework problems.

I love math, Governor. I love science. Anyway, I was also a new guy in Seattle. I got a job in Seattle. I was really interested in mountain climbing. And I got a job in an area where you can drive to glaciers in the Seattle area in those days. So I climbed a bunch of local peaks and this and that. And I was new in town, so I was a United Way big brother. You know what I mean?

And I volunteered at the Pacific Science Center, which is still there, a venerable institution built in 1962 for the Seattle World's Fair. And I would I'd wear a vest and I would pour liquid nitrogen around and this and that. And after winning in Seattle, only in Seattle.

I won the Steve Martin lookalike contest. I started doing or trying to do stand-up comedy. And I met these guys and it's Ross Schaefer, John Keister. And they asked me to submit jokes to this comedy show. So I did. And then eventually I quit my day job, October 3rd, 1986, roughly. And tried to pursue this comedy full time. But what was gnawing at me

was the kids, the kids today. We have to get young people excited about science. That's the deal. And so we had also in those days, we had research that 10 years old is about as old as you can be to get what they call the lifelong passion for science. And I think it's as old as you can be to get the lifelong passion for anything. Like, Governor, when did you want to run stuff? When you were a little kid, right? You wanted to be a leader.

Uh, and Doug, when did you want to tell stories? Probably from the gettist of get goes. And so, uh, we had made the science guy show deliberately at people in fourth grade, 10 years old and younger, because, uh, that's what the research indicated would be the most effective age at which to aim. So, uh, we had benefit of research. We had these, these things came together and, uh,

I went for the car, as we say on the game show. You went for the car, and you not only got the limo, you also got the yacht. So I appreciate what you've done, Bill, because it's been very impressive. It's an incredible run and career. And by the way, everybody, I'm in two unions, all right?

and we want to make sure I'm screen actors and I'm writers. And writers, that's right. Yeah. So you guys, we want to make sure we keep production in California. Yeah, we couldn't agree more with that. By the way, we also want to keep writers writing and actors acting. What about the science of artificial intelligence? Where are you on the AI spectrum? Well, I've messed around with it. So everybody, what we want is

is to have, you mentioned this earlier, we want everybody to have what nowadays is called critical thinking skill. When I was in school, it might have been called logic or logical reasoning or something like that. But you want people to be able to evaluate evidence. I have met in the 21st century, in the United States,

I have met people who ask me or ask somebody to ask me if I thought the world might be flat. And I mean, but it was a sincere question. It wasn't intended just to provoke people who are graduated from high school in the United States asking me. And I just, it seemed. I remember Kyrie Irving lasted that in playoffs a couple of years ago. Oh, I know. Yeah. And he started, he was, he knocked it on or made it bigger than it might've been before that. But he was, he didn't come to it.

as you attorneys say, de novo. I mean, he had heard it from somebody else and really got to questioning it. So you're here to break the news, to tell us if it is? Well, it's round. You know, there's a great t-shirt you can get with the NASA logo, the meatball logo, and the earth is on it. So it's round. We checked. We checked. It's pretty good.

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I met many people who, and family members who didn't get vaccinated at first because of this pseudoscientific notion that vaccinations cause autism. That has been debunked six ways to Sunday, as the old saying goes. And so that's really troubling because one of the reasons our

Quality of life is so high here in the United States, Europe, Japan, South Korea, what have you, is because of vaccinations, because of public health. I went to, I'm so old. How old are you? I went to elementary school with a guy who had polio. You do not want polio, people. No, no polio.

I grew up in Washington, D.C. in the summertime in English units. It's 99 degrees Fahrenheit and 99% humidity. You're a little kid. All you want. But this is every I'm not joking, you guys. This is before air conditioning was everywhere. We did not have air conditioning and you wanted to go swimming. That's what you wanted to do is jump community pool. Anyway, you weren't allowed to go because polio is somehow a waterborne virus.

So then when I was five, polio virus was developed and distributed. We went to the big middle school. In those days, it was called the junior high school and took a sugar pill, a sugar cube with red liquid in it. And I don't get polio. And so this thing with COVID and the

vaccines and people not getting vaccinated and having it mutate and infecting more and more people and everybody freaking out. And people didn't, if you're a parent, you did not want your kid in school with those other sick kids, hypothetically, other sick kids. And it just, blah, blah, blah. And so if we had vaccines,

I say we, humankind, had jumped on the idea that vaccines work and everybody got vaccinated, we would have had kids back in school in six months instead of two years. It's just crazy making. So how do I mean, I mean, you know, having experienced

experience this, and I mean, I imagine with all of your work, I mean, it feels like a big setback. I mean, what's the diagnosis going forward? How do we start to get people back on track, recognizing all the progress humankind has made, and how science and research and folks in your profession and disciplines are the guiding light in terms of that progress? Well, what is it

about your favorite teacher that you liked. Doesn't matter what subject. It was his or her passion. And so what you want, Governor, what we want is for people who come out of, let's say, four-year liberal arts college

who have a general knowledge of the world and have developed through four years of getting Socratic interrogation from professors and teachers that they have critical thinking skill. We want them, a fraction of them, to choose going into the teaching profession. And for that, they need to be able to make a living.

They need to be able to choose between going to work at middle school or going to work at Google at some level. And I may be exaggerating a little, but we want it where teachers make a good living so we can attract passionate, good teachers to the profession. And what has happened here in the United States, and it wasn't my idea, is we have tied property taxes –

to schools and teacher salaries. And this is just, you know, the at-risk kids get more riskier. And the really nice neighborhoods get nice teachers, good teachers and good facilities.

and this i know it's a solvable problem redistributing wealth but it's a challenge man no and then we're i mean you're we're in the epicenter of that the the history that we made proposition 13 in the state of california uh which in so many ways the original sin uh in that space and the tax revolt movement back in the 70s but it's you know bill this the issue of i mean it it is i've i've got to imagine it's it's got to be somewhat demoralizing to you just to see

All that progress run into this sort of new reality. And there's almost I mean, you know, people are celebrated for not believing in science. People seem to be venerated. Careers are made. Money is made. Well, we fight the fight, Governor. I mean, we fight the fight. Look, you've got to be optimistic. If you're not optimistic, you're not going to get anything done.

And I'll state categorically to everybody, as speaking of government employees, you mentioned Bill Clinton. Does anybody remember Barack Obama? He was a federal employee for- He was another public servant. Anyway, he pointed out a cool thing. He said, if you're, as we say in law school, you can't argue with my hypothetical. If you could, through some science fiction way,

Give a person a choice of be born when in human history or where on earth you'd want to be born now. If you can't pick where you'd be born on earth, this is the most exciting time for more people than ever in human history. More people are better off than ever in history because of

Science and technology, because we now feed over 8 billion people on less land that used to feed fewer than 2 billion. It's because of our agricultural technology and our infrastructure, we're able to distribute food and refrigerate food and make sure food is safe to eat.

then that is, and more, as troubling as the housing situation is, there are more people with a place to live than ever. So you guys, we can do this. We can do this. You've got to be optimistic. You're not going to win the game, but you do have to work. And everybody, people say to me, Bill Nye, science guy, what can I do about climate change? And what do I say? Two things. Talk about it.

If we were talking about climate change, we were talking about a bunch of other stuff. We'd be getting her done. And then the other thing is vote. You've got to vote. Well, speaking of climate change, Bill, it's interesting. My son and I, we watch the Animal Planet and those things like three times a week. But the great thing now is that in those shows-

20 minutes of the hour is talking about how the glaciers are going away, the land's going away. So now my son and daughters are looking at this. Back in our day, you just watched lions kill zebras. Now you're seeing the effects of if the glaciers fall off, the polar bears have to go longer to get food, blah, blah, blah. So these kids are learning more and more, which is a really cool thing. And guess who we have here? We have Mr. Beastquake right now. Speaking of climate change. Speaking of climate change.

Marshawn, meet Bill Nye, former Seattle resident. You know, Marshawn, I lived in Seattle. I watched you play a lot.

I was on the field in October. I raised a 12-man flag. How you get to raise the flag before I did? I don't know. It was a clerical error, I guess, in the front office. Anyway, it's great to see you. That must be John Snyder over there doing that because I don't even raise a 12-man flag yet. If you went back, they might, you know, it takes a lot of strength. I don't know.

I might not be able to handle it. I was just there not too long ago. It was cool. It was quite an honor. It was cool. Seahawks beat the Browns. Marshawn, we were talking about polar bears right when you got on. Oh, yeah, that's me. I'm a polar bear. Yeah. Doug's just worried about climate change, and he's worried about sort of the realities of ice sheets melting, polar bears being displaced.

No, but the cool thing, and Marshawn, you can get the story, but I was telling Bill, I was telling Marshawn you were coming on, and I think Marshawn's been trying to talk to you for a long time and get with you for a long time. So, Marshawn, you can tell him that story, but Marshawn kind of grew up more in the science era than me and Gavin did. Thankfully, I think to you, Bill, that was Marshawn's heyday back in those days. Yeah, for sure. Man, it's a pleasure to meet you, Victor. It's cool. It's cool. We're electronic. Hey, let me ask you a technical thing.

How many plays do you guys memorize? Is it 40? Two dozen? It's a lot more than that. And it depends because I play with so many different teams and it's different type of offenses. So you got to learn. I mean, depending on your offensive coordinator and what kind of offense you like to run, it could be upward of,

in somewhere in the hundreds. Hundreds. Yeah. All right. It's complicated. I watch you guys. I can't, it's complicated. Bill. It's interesting. You've tried to sort of deconstruct. It's interesting. I'm just watching your career as well, back sort of science and sports. That's been an area of interest for you. You, you, I mean, talked about the baseball and you've, I think, don't you have a patent in that space? Yeah. Yeah. You guys. So, uh,

I don't know if you know this expression, hitting a fungo practice. Absolutely. I remember the old fungo. Well, you still do. Throw the ball up and hit it. Well, I have a thing that goes on the end of the bat. You poke it onto the ball and you can pick it up like those tennis ball pickup things. And so I thought it would take over the world, but it hadn't. You know, the way to have a good idea is to have a lot of ideas. So that was the...

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And when I was a real little kid, before I really remember, they were traded, became the Minnesota Twins. Then when I was in high school, they became the Texas Rangers, which was heartbreaking. But all through that, Marshawn, I was an R word fan because that's what we had here in D.C. And then when I got a job at Boeing in 1977, I

I was an instant Seahawks fan, man, back in the... So you really, you really like a scientist, scientist. Well, I worked at Boeing. Yeah. And I tell people I worked on 747s. If you're ever on a 747, don't worry.

I was very well supervised, what I tell people. And I got to tell you, everybody, Doug, Marshawn, Governor, the culture has changed, man. Whatever is going on there. What is going on at Boeing? It was not going on when I was there. So speaking of being in unions, you know, they have a strike there.

Part of it is I think that workers are just concerned about the decisions management is making. You guys, I know we're talking about California, we're talking about renewable energy, we're talking about science, but

uh they got a different company making the fuselage you know the tube like what if you make airplanes what else do you make besides the tube like dude and so uh uh it was a different culture for sure and i know there's wages i'm sure there won't everybody always wants more money but there was an expression when i lived in seattle i lived there for 26 years

And I was there. You guys, I was there last weekend. Marshawn, did you watch Almost Live? No, I said within a week. I think we probably just missed each other because I was there for for the home opener when they played against. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. But I was I went to the Museum of History and Industry where we had the 40th anniversary of the comedy show I started out on, you know, Joel McHale.

He came from this show. He's an old Seattle guy, Joel McHale. Oh, Joel's great. Hey, so Bill, when the Beastquake run hit, it was interesting because that created a whole craze with that seismic activity and whatnot. So I'm sure you've been asked about that. And you obviously, were you at that game, Bill? No. But the stadium is made to be earthquake worthy. Yeah, they show me these little...

these little uh uh these machines that they put i think like outside of the stadium to i guess to record the seismic activity yeah oh yes to go back to uh what is it peak pacific northwest oh it what's the place that they got over at uh at the scientific science in washington the seismic uh oh seismic lab university yeah i went to visit that place and they showed me like the

the diagram of all of the uh yeah they showed me the diagram of where they put all of those earthquake detectors inside of the stadium so were you there you know when they were building the stadium there was an earthquake and these i guess it was five guys were working way up high the high iron or whatever and they fell off they got knocked off by the motion of the

of the platform and they were all wearing safety harnesses. So they were okay. They were hanging there above, you know, hanging right there. I'm like, Oh shit. Hey, can you guys get me down? But that's safety first people.

By the way, Bill, speaking of seismic safety, we've had a flurry of earthquakes in California in the last couple months, particularly in Southern California. Nothing dramatic, 4.6. No, I have a house in Studio City, and...

We were in the headquarters in Pasadena. We just got outside. You got outside. Were you the beneficiary of the early warning system? Yeah. What's the science? You have one of those. Yeah. What do you think of that? Is that technology real? Is that going to get better and better? So everybody, you know, this thing on your phone, if it's a startup with the iPhone, you do this or this and the image changes, right? Yeah.

So there's a, in here is what's called an accelerometer. And I'm introducing the word before the idea, but it measures down. You know, if you drop something, it accelerates toward the center of the earth, it falls. So these tiny, tiny silicon little flaps, right?

detect where down is and that's what enables the picture to change when you do that. And so that same gizmo connected to the right software, an app, detects this motion that is coordinated with other phones in the neighborhood. So you can't

You can't get Caltech to declare there's an earthquake just by doing this. Everybody's phone's got to be doing it. Yeah, it works, Governor. It's not perfect, but it works. We put a lot of money into it, so I just want to make sure our investment is sound. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. And so as we say, if you have 10 seconds, if you have 10 seconds of warning in an earthquake, that's a lot, man. You can get outside. You can get under a solid table.

This business about the doorway, that's kind of a myth. Get under a table or if you can manage to get outside away from a building, which is what I did the other day. We have a big parking lot we could get outside. Because as we have the old saying, earthquakes don't hurt people. Buildings hurt people.

It's when structures fall down and you're underneath them that stuff goes wrong. Let me ask you a question, Bill. I can tell my 12-year-old. Name one or two things you think he's going to experience when he's 50 and 60 years old that is, or I know it's more than that, but is there a few things you like, look out for this? Two things. Uh-oh. No, no. I'll bet you in 50 years, someone has figured out how to do fusion.

on Earth's surface. There are so many companies working so hard at it, and universities working so hard at it. I bet somebody doesn't. So a nuclear power plant that we have now, you take these large atoms, I mean, they're atoms, but these large atoms, and you get them to split apart. And as they split apart, the splitting, they run into other atoms, and they split some more in the so-called chain reaction, like Oppenheimer, what have you.

But in the interior of the sun and all the stars in the sky, there's so much gravity that the repulsion, the force that would keep these particles from smashing together is overcome. And that also releases even much more heat. That's the hydrogen bomb. All right. The sun is a fusion power plant running day and night. There's no night. It's the sun. And so, yeah,

So bet you somebody in the next 50 years has got fusion working, and then we would have, humankind, would have really, you all, unlimited electricity. Which changes everything in every way. The economics of everything radically changed. Availability, the universality of that. And so if I were king of the forest, Governor,

governor, we'd be throwing money at that like crazy. And you think it's, I love that you said 50 years, because we've been promoting this as in the next four or five years, next four or five years. Yeah. See, he said he's, he gave me 50. All right. So you're, you're covering your bases. So you got that covered. Hold on. What's the, what's the second thing, Bill? Well, Marshawn bases are a part of a baseball. It's a different game from your profession. Yeah. Anyway,

I'll swing it back to you. Yeah, I bet you do, man. All you guys are just extraordinary athletes. I'm not changing subject. When I was on the field in October last year, I was impressed by the whole thing. You guys are so big and so fast. It's just weird. And you're also so quick. It's just weird. It doesn't look real. And then you guys just warming up, throwing the ball to each other. It would take my arm off.

I mean, it's the guys throw it so hard and guys like you, you get it instantly. You've got your fingers on the seam or the stitches just instantly. It's amazing. But the thing that freaked me out or freaked me out, the thing that made such an impression on me was the punting. I mean, I've kicked a football, I think. Yeah.

These guys, they kick it up. It comes down with frost on it. It's been in the atmosphere or something. And then they say, okay, I'm going to kick it over here. The guy's got a flag or an orange thing. Kicks it over there. He kicks it over there. He kicks it end over end. He kicks it short. He kicks it far. It's just, whoa. I mean, just sorry. It made an impression on me. Yeah, that's a different beast. Yeah, Marshawn, I noticed he didn't talk about running backs. No, no, no. I'm just saying it. Yeah.

I started out with running backs. They're so big, so fast, and so quick, and they get the ball. Yeah, he missed that part. Don't worry. I thought he was talking about the receivers there. Don't worry. That's just the governor doing the governor's thing. Do they still have receivers? Okay, so the second thing, Doug.

is discovery of life or evidence of life on another world. If you give me 50 years, somebody's going to scoop around under the soil on Mars. Man, I don't know if you're just saying this just to say it out loud.

Now, I'm not talking about aliens beaming stuff. I'm talking about some Martian bacteria under the sand of Mars where there's still this very salty slush. And then on October 10th, as we say in space exploration, NET no earlier than October 10th.

You and I, we taxpayers, are going to send a mission, a spacecraft, to Europa. Europa is the moon of Jupiter with twice as much ocean water as Earth. If you have saltwater for four and a half billion years, is there something alive? No.

On Europa, are there Europanians swimming around under the ice on Europa? Why are we talking about Mars so much? Why are we talking about Europeans? Well, Marshawn Winsor Mars on his TV show. That's that smoke screen. Get you thinking about this shit over here while they over there doing what they're doing. You know, that's politics 101. Oh, is it? We're deflecting on the real mission? The secret missions to Europa? Yeah.

That's what y'all doing. By the way, the amount of money we spend on these planetary missions is nothing. It's less than a cup of coffee once. By the way, when you, this thing leaves no earlier than October 10th, it will get to Jupiter in 2030. 2030. A huge flipping rocket, gigantic rocket will not get to Jupiter for six years.

Almost six years. It's so far away. And are they putting people on that? No, no, no. No one's on it, Doug. Oh, I was about to say that. Man, who the fuck want to go out into space? That's why it's so cheap. There's no people. You don't have to feed them. You don't have to have them...

take care, process their waste. It's a spacecraft full of instruments. Well, Bill, why are more people not going to the moon? I mean, I know we did that back in our... Yeah, by the way, that was not staged either, Bill, was it? I mean, I know we have flat earthers. We still have people, literally, that do not believe we ever went to the moon. And it does beg the question, why haven't we been back if we were there the first time? We are going back in 2028. They're all sexed up on Artemis.

No, people are going back no earlier than 2028. There's been a setback with the Star Cruise, CST, another Boeing product has been a setback. And SpaceX has not flown what they call the Starship in orbit around Earth or out to the moon or all that. But

people are working really hard on that and it's going to happen. Bill, on a serious note, what is the benefit? I mean, obviously the moon going back to the moon, but is that the highest and best use in terms of those space dollars or is it to do what you guys are trying to do before October 10th? After October 10th. So I am CEO of the Planetary Society. We promote planetary science and

so that people everywhere on Earth will know the cosmos and our place within it. That is our mission. I applied to be an astronaut four times. However, I don't really especially need to fly in Earth orbit. I don't especially need to go to the moon. I really am not interested in going to Mars anymore.

Unless I'm coming back. Yeah, there is the return flight issue. Yeah, yeah. So whether or not it's the best use of our tax dollars, I defer to you all. But it is happening because enough people think it's a worthy and cool thing to do that we're doing it. Interesting. Hey, Bill. Well, hang on. The reason we went to the moon originally was because of the Cold War.

Okay, you can say that all sorts of amazing science came from it. We learned so much more about the age of the Earth and where the moon came from and where moons writ large come from and where the significance of asteroids in the evolution of life on Earth. When the people walked on the moon, there was no good idea of what happened to the ancient dinosaurs.

It wasn't until 1983 that people worked that out. And it was in part by studying the moon. Doug, back to you. Well, that's fascinating. It's interesting as an agent, Bill, and Marshawn will be back in a second, but the advent now about new therapies and things to do,

You know, now it's the new fad of these cold plunges and these red light therapy saunas. How and by the way, our governor who uses them every day. I don't use them every day, just every other day. I mean, I've never been healthier. Is he wasting his time or are these legit, Bill? Well, it's up to the person. Let me say as much as we may think it's a new idea.

People in Scandinavia have been using saunas and cold baths forever. People in Japan are fascinated with the ancient Romans had the baths. You can go to Britain and there's the town of Bath named after the baths. Like it's not an extraordinary new idea. What's cool now or cold now is we can get things so much colder, so much quicker, so much cooler.

faster, we can get things so much warmer so much more quickly than we could in the good old days. So the answer is clearly without question, maybe.

See, I love the certainty of science. That's why you need scientists in the world, not politicians. I think what it is, is your results may vary. You did a series with Seth MacFarlane about disasters. And you talked about volcanoes. You talked about asteroids. You talked about all of these issues, including solar flares, I think was one of them. That's the one. That's the one you're most worried about? Yeah, I mean...

Asteroids, everybody, by the way, everybody hip to Apophis. Apophis? I want to claim I am just in case I look stupid, but I have no clue what you're talking about. Well, you won't now. So I'm not kidding. April, Friday, the 13th of April, 2029, an asteroid is going to come between us and Sirius XM satellites. And it's called Apophis, which is

One translation, the Greek god of anxiety. Very good. So during that flyby of this rock, we are working to get an international consortium together to make it what we're calling a dress rehearsal for deflecting an asteroid. Wow. Because it's a real thing. An asteroid impact is a real thing to really physically actually worry about.

But the one that I'm really worried about of the six disasters we did is this solar flare, what's called coronal mass ejection, a CME. And the real thing that could go easily wrong is two of them 12 hours apart. So you'd turn off all the lights on Earth, which would just be catastrophic. Wow.

And you were, I mean, these weren't, I mean, completely hypothetical scenarios that you were laying out, including, by the way, hurricanes, Cat 5s versus Cat 6s. Well, so Cat Category 6s have occurred on the open ocean. One hasn't landed yet.

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As well. But is it about awareness, about waking up our senses? Yeah, it's about paying attention. So in the case of coronal mass ejections of solar flares, turning out all the lights, this is a solvable problem. So you all may remember when the Texas grid, now some of my best friends, as they say, are from Texas, proud Texans. And they're very proud of their electrical grid. They're very proud that they were independent. Right.

But then we got a little bit cold, a little bit quickly, nothing extraordinary. And the tower went out all over the place. The famous pictures of here's Texas in the dark and here's Arkansas with the lights on. And El Paso, I think, is not quite on the grid. So it's a solvable problem. What we have to do is the expression they throw around is harden or get the

electrical grid more robust so when it gets cold and warm, the system keeps running. And the one that, another one you want to design for is this very strong electromagnetic field that is induced when these charged particles from the sun interact with Earth's magnetic field. Who could forget 1859, the Carrington event.

So Carrington was an astronomer, observed these sunspots, and then fires were started in telegraph offices. The telegraph lines...

The energy going through the telegraph lines interacted with the Earth's magnetic field and these charged particles and zap stuff. And as before, we had phone calls like this and all this electricity running all over the flipping place. It would be catastrophic. So we need to shield them, shield this stuff. Yeah.

And so, I mean, so that's, I mean, it's a demonstrable threat, not a hypothetical, because you're able to connect it to that date. What is it? Is there any seriousness of purpose the federal government's placing on this? Or is this or is the byproduct of our general efforts to upgrade our grid, harden our grid, decentralize our grid and all of the other things going to benefit? Well, hypothetically, it would benefit from decentralized. But still, you need to shield things, the real vulnerable communities.

part that we were we read some papers about you know this people engineers who studied power grid is the transformers those cans on the utility poles those are the real vulnerable component components of the electrical grid so we need to shield those and there's

Have you ever heard the story in the thunderstorm, stay in your car? I mean, is that literally the advice in this case? Absolutely. Stay in the metal car. Stay in a metal car. The energy of the lightning will go around you. It will go around. If the car is metal, if you're in a plastic car, things will be different. But it'll go around you. And the guy who...

developed Faraday's law. Michael Faraday did this analysis that's now famous where the term Faraday cage has caught on. If you have a metal cage, a conductive cage around an object, it will protect it. And then you can optimize it so that you also have that energy go to the ground like a lightning rod. It's doable.

But we have to design for it and plan for it and throw money at it, tax dollars. Bill, take me through your campaign of too hot not to vote. Explain that to us. So I just encourage everybody who wants to vote

thoughtlessly for conservatives that you should vote on Wednesdays. Be sure to vote on Wednesdays. We know where your leanings are. I was well, leanings. I'm way past leanings. You're past leaning. You're not leaning. I get it. No, no. So I ran this nonprofit where we worked very hard to be political, but not partisan. Yeah.

But now we can't do that. This is it. Climate change, this is it. If we do not address climate change this time, four years from now, it's just going to be really hard to do it. Bill, you really feel like we're at that tipping point where, I mean, literally, because we keep talking about it in some ways. Some people feel like we can continue to move that bar, but you feel like the next few years. It's easy for us to be called alarmists in a critical way.

Paul Revere was an alarmist. That was good. That was good Paul revering everybody. He got everybody revved up and we have a country on the counter. So it's not that there's going to be what has often been analyzed as a tipping point. Apparently, the latest research is it's just going to get worse and worse.

It's just going to get hotter and hotter. More stuff's going to go wrong. More sea level rise, fewer glaciers, more displaced wildlife, more wildfires, more difficult to predict weather, more extreme weather events in the Gulf of Mexico, nor'easters, Pineapple Express. Everything's just going to get amplified. And human migration, human displacement. So it's happening in the States, you guys. You can't get insurance anywhere.

for your parking, parking your car in Florida because of the saltwater coming over on the King tides and coming up through the limestone in Florida. And so people are going to move, not immediately, but sooner or later, where are they going to go? What are they going to do? Homeowner insurance as well as it relates to impacts of wildfires. And then wildfires in California and then now in Palos Verdes. So I'll tell you, Governor, the head of the Jet Propulsion Lab,

during the Viking missions, the Voyager missions, the 1970s, the heyday of those missions. Bruce, Bruce, Bruce Murray was a geologist. And he used to just, oh, you know, Southern California, this isn't rock. It's just, it's just dried mud. This whole place is going to fall apart when there's an earthquake. He used to say stuff like that. And so Palos Verdes is

That's where it's going on, man. It's and if you guys aren't unaware, it's I mean, back in the 50s, Palos Verdes started to slip. There was some landslide movement. Now it's been accelerated. The last two years of massive rains have been moving up to six, eight inches. I mean, it's it's a serious thing. They're losing electricity, losing their gas. And it's a very it's a tends to be a wealthier community and impacts even with with folks with means.

is pretty outsized. Folks with means, and then where are they going to go? And if you've lost everything, even if you're rich, it's a drag. Amen. Amen. But all byproducts of this sort of foundational reality that we're still debating, Bill, we're still debating the science of climate change. It's amazing. And it should be, one would think it's not a partisan issue. Everybody's invested in

in the health and safety, health and welfare of our citizens. Everybody can see that there are more wildfires. And you can say, well, there's more fuel. No, no, there are more wildfires. There are more floods. These hurricanes are devastating. And we have more people living everywhere. And so there are more effects on us. Agriculture is a – everybody can see that. Yet the fossil fuel industry has been so influential.

in convincing people that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus 2%, is the same as plus or minus 100%. And so you just can't do that. No, Bill, I mean, what you just said, I think it's really important. I

Even if you don't believe in science, to your point, you have to believe your own eyes. And the hots are getting a lot hotter, dries are getting drier, wets are getting wetter. Lifestyles, places, traditions, you have places like Paradise, California, wiped off the map, grizzly flats.

places literally that people have experienced for generations. You try to go to Yosemite Park, all of a sudden you're with the grandkids. You can't even experience what your grandparents allowed you to experience as a child because they're closed. So this is, I mean, serious stuff and it's costing taxpayers a fortune. But you said, and I cannot impress upon folks more, this is not complicated. The climate crisis is a byproduct of

of greenhouse gases emissions from the burning of fossil fuels of oil, gas, and coal. It's not complicated. And the complicity of the oil companies to deny and now delay and obfuscate facts and science is of outsized importance to highlight. So anyway, Bill, I just, hats off for you for calling balls and strikes.

Let's talk about it. Talk about climate change and vote. Look, I got to tell you, Bill, this has been an absolute pleasure. You are, you are, it's so impressive and all these things. We could talk to you for about seven more hours or seven more days or seven more weeks, but this has been unbelievable. I know Marshawn has a couple of things left. No, it's all good. I just,

No, I'm good, big dog. You have a question, Marshawn? Just hearing you speak and just knowing that I was back. I love you, man. That's enough of me, big dog. I appreciate it. So you know what he brought to the game, you guys? He played with joy. Yep. Marshawn played with joy. And you could see it. Yeah, that's unmatched.

Yeah, that's unmatched. Hey, Bill, do you know, just today, Doug, this joy has now brought Marshawn as one of the new 15 folks to be considered for the Hall of Fame. Just came out. Oh, wow. Sure. For some reason, I'm not consulted, but of course. Last thing, Bill, because I always tell Marshawn this. Marshawn has lived his life with joy. He's lived his life how he's wanted to do it. He lived it with happiness.

equate that to length of life, Bill, because I think if you live like more Sean does, he might live to about 115. So I think more people need to live like more Sean. So you have to put in the hours to do that. So, you know, doing the podcast, a different podcast, we had a guy on who studies a physician who studies people who are over a hundred years old. And he said, there are two kinds of people that live to be over a hundred people who are just happy.

It was happy. Stuff goes wrong, they just roll with it. And then people who just take all the stress, all the stress, and put it on everybody else. It was really very interesting observation. I'm giving you

hearsay of what this guy told us on the podcast. I haven't done the research, but could be. I think I might unload my stress on you and Batman. Oh, man, you do that every day, Marshawn. I think I might unload my stress on y'all. Oh, man. That's why you're going to go 115th. So anyway, Governor, you know, I will vote in Studio City and I look forward to voting.

And everybody, people are talking about the seven swing states and all this stuff. But don't forget, you got to vote. Even if it's nominally or people perceive it to be in the bag, you got to vote. Everybody, please vote with the climate and the future of humankind in mind.

Thank you so much for having me on the show. Thank you, Bill. It's been a pleasure. All right. Anything I can do to help, man, Governor, anything I can do to help, let me know. Thank you. I don't want to be in the way. Let me know if I can help. All right, you guys, carry on. Let's change the world. We will. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Bill.

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