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At this stage of the game being set up, probably. Me too. You know why? I hate being judged off the picture.

No, I know. And you swipe this way and that way. Yeah, it just takes a lot. All right. Where are the best places to meet men? Football games, baseball games, golf courses. Stop right there. Okay. Always a golf course. Men are so involved when they're watching football and baseball and basketball games. Golf courses, lots of single men on the golf course. What about you? I play golf and yeah, I don't see a lot of single men. I see men, but...

You have to be at the 19th hole, Susan. All right. Who do you think was the hunkiest bachelor of all time? Jesse. Was he a bachelor? Jesse Palmer. I'm with you on that. I think he's gorgeous. But you know what? I think Joe, there's so many. Do we have to pick one? Do you want to get married again?

Oh, gosh. I used to think yes, and I would be open to it, but it's not necessary. I do want to be in love again. How about you? No. Yeah. Marriage is not on my to-do list, but I would never rule it out. So, Kathy, what is the best part of marriage?

For me, the best part of marriage was just having that time together, the intimacy of even if it wasn't having sex, just being together and talking about our days and traveling together. It was the togetherness. It was through thick and thin, the being together. What about you? Having kids.

Yeah, sharing children, raising a family. That's the best part. Okay. Make it out in a movie theater. Yes or no? I mean, I'd probably say no, but I'm sure I'd do it. If the moment happens, why not? I'm not going to go crazy, but yeah, I like kissing. Yeah, why not? I mean, why not?

Should you sleep together on the first date? Can we answer this in one word? No. Don't care what, how old you are, never do it. All right. Are one night stands acceptable?

If you're over the age of 55, what is this? 55? I don't know. You're still alive. Here's the thing. A one night stand is always acceptable. If the two of you are in agreement. Yes. I don't judge. All right, Susan, here's a good one for us. And we've actually talked about this. What if you and I both like the same guy? What happens? Yeah.

It depends on how much I like them. I'd probably put my head between my legs and go away. I don't want to fight. That or I'll go knock your ass out. Well, those are the two choices, aren't they?

I don't think you and I actually... We don't have the same taste. Oh, boy. Sex toys, are you into them? If yes, what are they? Can I answer that, Kathy? Because I bought Kathy her first sex toy for her birthday last year. I mean, we're alone. They're great. Yes. Yes, we love them. Yes. All right. The worst thing about menopause is...

You dry up? I'm like the Saharan desert. All right.

What's the best thing about menopause? You don't get your period. I can't get pregnant. Or you don't get a period anymore. All right, what about the best advice for women listening going through menopause? I would get bi-identical hormones. They're the most fabulous things. They help with your sleep, the night sweats. You're definitely moist like you were young again. You don't feel dried up like a prune and they help you think a little bit better. Yeah.

I highly recommend them. Okay. Would you rather have your kids overhearing you have sex or would you rather overhear one of your kids having sex? No brainer. I'd much rather hear not that I want to my child having it rather than me. Oh my God, Susan Berggruen again. Oh my God, you're so right. Okay. This was so fun. I feel like I know way more about you than I could have imagined, Kathy. Uh-huh.

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This is Kelly Ben Simone from the Real Housewives of New York City and the Ultimate Girls Trip. And this is Cheryl Burke, former pro dancer for 26 seasons on Dancing with the Stars and host of the podcast Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans. So let's do a fun game of rapid fire questions. Kelly, are you up for this or what? Yes. You start. Which do you prefer, dating apps or being set up? Neither. How about you? I'm up for this one.

She's like, I'm not dating. I prefer being set up. I like to have a connection with someone because then I like to like talk my friends. Yeah. If I were to choose, that would be it too. Where are the best places to meet men? You think football, baseball games or golf course? Neither. All.

that there are men, there are men. Those sports players, you know? All you have to do is look up and there are men. They might not be looking at you. They may be looking at a beer, but they're still there. Right. Who do you think was the hunkiest Bachelor of all time? I suck at this. I have never seen anything as far as the Bachelor franchise goes, but because Joey is currently on Dancing with the Stars and this man can move and there's been a notorious, like,

full-on horrible record of bachelors joining Dancing with the Stars and them not having any rhythm, I'm going with Joey. I love Joey too. I thought he was so charming and engaging and just genuine. Like he just oozes. Have you seen his dancing skills yet? No. Oh my God. I can't wait. It's amazing.

I don't know if I can look at him because he's underage. I mean, he's not my, you know, I'm 56. He's not underage. Well, I mean, it's just a lot. Age is just a number. Haven't you heard that saying? My kids would be like, stop talking about Joey. I'm like, oh God. I love how honest your kids are. Do you, do you, would you get married again? Yes.

Okay, me too. What about you? Would you get married again? Yeah, but I think the first I'd have to date, you know, sometimes I jump zero to a hundred. That's my addiction in me, but I'm definitely an addict. I go straight, let's get married. I meet you today, let's get married tomorrow. That's just, obviously we have to change that pattern. Well, that's what they say. You have to date until you get married. It's like with everything. Yeah, or just not, just not date. Just get married. Hi, how are you? Let's get married. Okay. Arrange marriage. That would be called an arranged marriage. Yeah.

I think you'd be okay with that, to be honest. I think you'd be like, fine, I'll just get married. Whatever. What's the best part of marriage? Well, if you're in a healthy one, I'm assuming, I think in general, just having a partner, a companion, someone, a best friend. You know, the one thing that I love about, you know, the relationships that I was just was like so crazy about was just like spending time with that person doing like really mundane things. Like,

I mean, I don't know if it was like, oh, we have to walk down the street and we have to walk the dog and then we have to go get paper towels. And that person's chatting about nonsense or whatever. Those moments are so special because they're not attached to anything. And that's what I loved about... I love that with my ex-husband, even though he was so much older than me, when he would... That was the time that he would actually spend with me. And I love that. I love that.

Making out in a movie theater. How old are we? Yes or no? 100%. I don't think it matters where the hell you are. If you want to make out, make out. Thank you. I'm not going to lay on top of you, but if I want to give you a little smooch, I'm definitely going to do that. I'm not going to make noises or be inappropriate. Yeah, exactly. Gross. Okay.

Cheryl's going to be like, Kelly, I'm in the movie with you. You're making too much noise. First of all, I don't remember the last time I was in a movie theater since COVID. Okay. So like, I don't go into those dirty places. If I were in a movie theater with a guy making out, you would probably be there. I'd throw popcorn at your head. Yeah. Kelly, you're embarrassing me. I'm embarrassing me. Hopefully I wouldn't be the third wheel. Hopefully I would also have a date though. No, you can have a date. You can have a date. Thank you. Should you sleep together on the first date? No. Okay.

You see, I've actually slept with someone on the first date and I spent a long time with them. That night or again afterwards? What do you mean? Like you spent a long time with them like in the future, like after that one night? Yes. Okay, got it. I spent a long time with them that night. No, I've had like men that I've like waited and kind of just like checked it out and kind of pushed and pulled and just kind of seen like where they are. Like played the game. Yeah.

not the game just was like, just to see like, what's really going to happen. I mean, I was married to someone so much older than I was. So now it's like when guys are giving me attention, I'm like, is it like well-intended attention or is it just like, they're just trying to like play a game with me. Um, so I have slept with the guy and we had, and I, I was crazy about him and then I've waited. So, um,

Yeah. Well, I don't have it. I don't have it. When I did that, I didn't, I never heard from them again. Most likely it was just this, it was more about my emotional wellbeing. It's not good. Like I feel like I was vulnerable enough to sleep with you and then you now have the power. But again, it's my control, controlling side of myself. So. Cheryl, hop on top. Don't tell me twice.

Okay. Are one night stands acceptable if you're over the age of 55? I think we kind of talked about, I don't think the age matters. Does it? I mean, I think that if you have a strong emotional intelligence and you're feeling good about yourself, but I mean, I think to have sex with somebody and then feel so bad about yourself the next day, I mean, what's the point? Why would you do that? I will fall in love with you if I have sex with you so that now you're warned, right? So now you've been warned. It's at your...

move forward at your own risk really see it's interesting because i'm like that too that's why that's like i try to like hold off because when if i have sex with someone i'm just i i am like all in but isn't that what's so fun it's like are we are we not are we like and then just i mean it is a game for me that is a game but at the end of the day too you have to protect your vagina and your heart yes protect the vagina yeah um we need t-shirts protect the vagina yeah um

What if you and I were both out and we were liking the same kind of guy? What happens? See, I always find that. First of all, it depends. Like if we have a strong friendship, you know, it's just like, and this is the thing, like this goes back to a question I actually asked my friend. When you're, if you're good friends or if you're friends and you have the same taste in men, what, I don't know what happens actually. What happens? Yeah.

You know, I'm just like, I'm not very competitive with women. That's good. Women should support women. You can see how I am. I'm like, you know, I'm... That's not normal, by the way. I'm just not. I don't know why. I'm just not competitive with women. And I'm not competitive with men. I'm competitive with myself. Like I'm so laser focused on myself that I like...

So I would probably help you. If you wanted to be with somebody, I'd be like, oh my God, let me help you. I'd like, let's say help Cheryl. And I'll find someone. Or like, what if you had called dibs though? Like, what if?

Then I'd be like, Cheryl, hands off. Yeah, exactly. Paws off, bitch. Right. I mean, in the words of Luann de Lesseps, there is girl code. There is girl code, actually. And a lot of people follow that for sure. And there's also a song associated to the girl code. What song? She has a song called Girl Code. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, got it. Now I do. Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford, and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty.

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I don't know. I don't think I would be into it in the, like, no, not at first. I mean, I don't know. I'm not into like pocket rocket is the maximum. I'm not going to stick anything up there. Like I've never done that. Nor do I put on it. Like, that's weird to me. Okay. So this was a long time ago. Julianne Rancic was hosting this party in New York. She's like, you have to come. It's going to be so much fun. I can't wait to see you. So I like, I, I go and I see her and she gives me a goodie bag and I'm with this friend of mine and,

And I was like, oh, thank you so much. I had no idea. I was not paying attention to anything. We leave and he goes, she just gave you a vibrator. I'm like, she did not give me a vibrator. That's a great gift.

My girls, because they're looking through everything. They're looking through everything all the time. I mean, you name it. And they're like, what is this? I'm like, I have no idea. We're all like screaming. I know.

I'm sure they know what it was. Then on Ultimate Girls Trip, I brought the ladies some friends with benefits from Kiki de Montparnasse and they had a meltdown that I brought them toys. So like I am not... I would love to entertain the toy process as long as my kids are not like looking in my... Looking or around. I mean, they're also... I mean...

I mean, I don't know. I grew up fast, so I don't know. I mean, in my late 20s, it was still me and my battery-operated only pocket rocket because I'm so sorry. Nowadays, I think a man created this when you have to charge your vibrator. Like when I want to use it, I want to use it now, not after it's charged. Like I don't know. That's...

weird to me like it should only be double a double a battery operated only yes people plug in their vibrators like are you do you leave it out in the open next to your toothbrush like that's odd that

That's weird. That's hideous. No. Yeah. I don't understand who invented that. That is not a good invention. No one wants to charge anything. I think anything that makes you feel good is amazing. Exactly. Okay, next. I just have to keep my children out of my drawers and- Well, boundaries. Even the children, they're young adults, but they need to stay out. They can borrow any clothes they want. Girls, I told you that. Oh, here. You see that thing right there? That's a safe. You should get one.

You can say your vibrator in there all day long. Here are the three things you need. Here are the three takeaways. You're safe. Yes. You're safe and you're safe. Worst thing about menopause. The worst thing about menopause is the worst thing about menopause was getting warm. The great thing about menopause is that your boobs get a little fuller, which is amazing. I mean, I already have some very nice friends, but now they're actually more friendly. They're perky? Yeah.

Just rounder. Nice. Fuller. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then I think I believe I'm going through parametopause. I don't know. Maybe not. I mean, I developed at a young age. At nine years old, I got my menstrual cycle. So best advice for women, I guess, listening, going through menopause or parametopause. What does that feel like? How do I know if I'm going through parametopause? I mean, obviously see a doctor, but...

You can, you know, I, um, from my experience, I'm not a doctor, but I could play one on TV. But what is, what you see is you see different, um, differences in the textures in your skin. Um, your taste and smell start changing. Um,

you see different quality in your, that your texture of your hair, you definitely, there's can be weight loss and gain. And then you can obviously have some hot flashes. I mean, all of these two, like I have all of that regardless of,

When I was in perimenopause is when I wrote, I can make you hot. And I cleaned up everything. I also have psoriasis. So I was like, we are on the clean diet. Cheese and I are in a toxic relationship. I just cleaned everything up and it helped a lot. I mean, there's also other things to do. But I feel like if you just really...

take care of yourself and give yourself a hug during that time. You can actually get through it. And how about your mood?

it goes up and it goes down. Well, yeah. It's so hard because nowadays, like I said, I'm not even kidding. I feel like I've got all the symptoms even 15 years ago. I sweat in general a lot. But you're a dancer and I started taking Dance Body and that actually helped me as well. Just the difference in movement and using my body in different ways. It's great.

Awesome. Would you rather have your kids overhearing you have sex? This is a horrible question. Or would you rather overhear one of your kids having sex? What type of nasty question is this? I didn't make that up. Neither. Thank you. Yeah. No. God, that's so disturbing. Yeah. Yeah. And you should, by the way, if you have solid doors, you should not be hearing either. So there you go. Yeah. And just wait. Stop. Invest in good doors. Yeah. Or put something in your mouth so you don't make sounds. I don't know what to say. Yeah.

Put a few cotton balls in it and shut up. Okay, cool. Suffocate yourself with a pillow. I don't know what to say. Wait, I love you. I love you. I love you. That was so fun. I feel like your answers are not what I expected. I was not expecting the cotton balls. Yeah, I wasn't expecting this either from me.

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