Popping The Question with Men of Bachelor Nation
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Hey, it's Bob Giddey here from The Bachelor and of course, a co-host of Almost Famous to OGs. And I'm Jason Mesnick. I was a bachelor a long, long time ago and I'm your real estate agent here in Seattle. That's right. And this is I Do Part Two, a podcast all about finding love the second time around. Now, we are going to pop some questions. All right. Are you ready? Let's go. All right, Jason. Here we go. First question. If you sleep with a woman on the first date, are you thinking about her now for a long-term relationship?

You know, I would, I think the world's so different now. I think if I didn't, it'd be a super double, double standard. Oh, agreed. I totally agree with that. And sometimes love at first sight actually exists, right? All right, here we go. Do men get turned off if a woman double texts, you know, like sends another message before you even had a chance to answer the first one? Uh,

it depends on how long of a break there is. Like if she texts, like, you know, and, and the next text is an hour later, probably not. But if it's like every two or three minutes, it might get a little creepy. Yeah. A little much, right? A little much. Just let me answer it. Let me get it done here. All right. On a date, should a woman offer to pay? Uh,

Sure, why not? I mean, like, the world's different now. I'm not saying that you'd let her pay, but, like, if she wants to offer, that's a nice gesture. Yeah, I actually agree. My wife would always be, like, you know, reaching for her wallet, and I'm like, oh, come on. You're not going to pay. And she's like, no, but I at least want you to think I'm trying. And I'm like, okay. And I loved that. Like, I thought it was really sweet. Molly, will you listen to Bob here? Like, sometimes it's hard to pay.

Oh, here's a good question. And this is, this could be another double standard kind of question. Do you guys care about a woman's body count? Do you know what that means? Like a woman's number, magic number. Do you guys care about that? I don't think like, I mean, unless you're Wilt Chamberlain and like, it's like 10,000 or something like that, you know, who knows who Wilt Chamberlain is, but like, otherwise, like if it's a reasonable, reasonable number, I don't think it's. Right.

Well, I think too, that could be an age appropriate thing too, right? Like if it's, if someone's 22 and they've got, you know, a considerable amount racked up there and then someone who's, you know, 40 and or 50 or whatever, you know, and maybe, I don't know, maybe that, maybe it doesn't matter. Who knows? It's not 10,000. I'm just going to say 10,000. Keep it below 10,000 and there shouldn't be any conversation about it, right? Is ghosting ever acceptable and have you ever ghosted?

I don't think it's acceptable. I mean, I may have done it, but like, here's what's happening now. So my son's at the dating age, he's in college and a girl he was dating, he

I last year started ghosting him a little bit and seeing how he reacted to it. It pissed me off. Right. Meaning like, just don't, you can just say, Hey, things aren't going well. I'm moving on. Whatever it might be. I don't think like, come on, you don't need to ghost anybody. That's not cool. Just be a gentleman. Right. I mean, from the standpoint of a guy, I don't know what you'd say to a, to a woman on that one, but I agree to a lady. Yeah. I would, I would literally say if it was my son or granny, he's only five.

He's not even yet. He's not ghosting yet. Thank God. But yeah, when he gets older, I think I would say like, come on, dude, just be a gentleman, you know, whatever. She might not be that into you. You never know. Oh, have I ever ghosted? Oh, I have not. It's not my style. I would never ghost. I think what I would do is I would do what Jason, I would do what you're saying, Jason. I would be like, hey, this just isn't working out, you know. But I will say back in the day when I dated a lot, I would often...

make it so that they wanted to break up with me. What would you do?

I don't know. I would just be like, I don't know. You're like, yeah. Oh my God. What's wrong with this guy? No, but it's true. Like I would always try to like not be as like if I were, if I was just kind of over a relationship, I wouldn't be as responsive, but I would still be responsive, but I wouldn't be like, Hey, what's going on? I'd love to see you today. I'd be more like, you know, Oh, Hey Debbie. Yeah. What's up? How you been? You know, sorry. Can't get together today or whatever. You know, I wouldn't be as, as, as I guess available is the best way to put it.

Two questions specifically, Jason, I know you went through this one. So this is a good one. How soon would you introduce a woman that you're dating to your kids? Right. So we could go to your, to your past life, right? To your first stage of your life.

Well, I mean, I would actually say in the first stage, I had done it too soon. Right. There are times where like I thought mentally I was ready. Right. Even though I was not ready. So, again, like I think some of that comes with maturity. When I back then, you know, in my early this is my late 20s, I thought I was mature. And there were times where I did introduce somebody to my son way too soon. Right. Yeah. You're on a TV show like you're going to do it right away because that's. Yeah. Yeah. They're rolling that out hot.

Now, what if your kids don't like a woman that you're dating?

Are you basically like, okay, we're not doing this. This is over. I don't, that's a really tough one. And I've talked to like friends, family members about this. I know that like, even me, my mom brought in my stepdad when we were teenagers, he moved in really, really quick. We didn't, it wasn't like we didn't like him. We didn't even know him. Right. Right. Right. I think it's just being like, and I'm not saying yes or no. Right. But like if, if somebody is abusive, that's one thing, even if it's verbally abusive, right. And I'm physically abusive. Right.

But knowing that, like, give it a shot before you jump in deep. That's all I'd say. Because I have jumped in really quick and it never works out. Right. Backfires on you. You know, that's kind of to that end. I mean, you know, that's like what you and Molly did. I think that's so great. You stayed in your life. I mean, I got the same Chris Harrison advice and I love telling people to this day, you know, I'll be hosting something now and they'll go, you know.

So is this all you do? I'm like, no, I never quit my day job. And I still, I still do the same thing I've always done. It's just, this is kind of the fun side thing I get to do, you know, on the weekends or whatever. But yeah, I, you know, and that was great Harrison advice. I think your advice might kind of be right there with it and they should listen to what you're talking about. Cause I think that's huge. What's one thing that all women need to know if they want to have a success dating a divorce man?

Uh, be patient, I think. Well, be patient and then ask yourself if this is really what you want, because it can be a challenge, right? I look at about what my stepdad went through with us and I look what Molly went through. Molly was like, oh, this is easy. Like I looked at Jason's awesome and Ty's super cute. But I think the real part of this of like,

How is he going to look at me? What's the relationship going to be like? I think you really, this is, and only, you know, that like, if you don't love, if you never wanted to have kids and you know that what's like, what is it going to be like if you're dating somebody with a little kid or a kid? Just ask. Cause all of a sudden it's, it's turnkey family, right? You got to be on, you know, and you got, and you got to also like be attentive to it. Like you got to really care about them. Like I know Ty has got a stepdad for my ex-wife and he's a great stepdad. Like we get along awesome.

And make sure that's something you really want, but only you truly, truly know that. Right. Yeah. I agree. I agree with that. I think, um, one of the pieces of advice I would give, uh, when dating a divorce guy, cause I was a divorce guy without kids, um, from my previous relationship was, and this is a terrible thing to say, cause I do think it's a little double standard ish, but getting too comfortable too fast. Yeah. Right. So like, you know, um,

It's almost got to be an accident that you leave something over at the house the first time, right? It can't be that you put your stuff in a drawer and it'd be like, you know, it's almost gonna be like, whoa. Like, I mean, because everything to a divorced guy, whether they wanted to be the divorced person or not, you know, whether they wanted to not stay in that previous relationship or not is they don't want to make the same mistakes over again. So it's going to be cautious optimism at best. Well, and I would even say like, like be con be conscious. And I did this, how much does it affect the kids?

Right. I mean, like there was a girl I remember brought around. She was awesome. And even though it didn't work out after it ended, he started asking, like, where did she go? Oh, yeah. And he was so little. Ty was so little that he didn't have any idea like who she was, why she was around. But just be conscious that like your decisions really impact everybody around you. God, so true. Yeah.

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Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, now we're going to get into a little bit more of, you know, some a little more seedy stuff. So what is the biggest red flag that you think women ignore when they're dating?

What's the biggest red flag? Yeah. Like what's something that they see from a guy? And like, if you're on the, cause I actually know what I'm going to say to this one and I've seen it and I, and I know it. So let me go first. I'll go first and let you think of this. Okay. All right. So when a dude just is radio silent for long periods of time,

And then it's very shady about where they've been. Right. Like to me, I was always pretty much an open book. Like, you know, like I always tell Canyon, I would say, you know, I don't ever want anything I'm doing or saying when you're not around to, you know, be

like make you look like you're the joke or you're the butt of the joke, you know? So here's, here's what I do. Here's where I'm at. Here's what I'm at. Even if it was something that I knew she might not like, but it's just like, I'm doing this with my boys tonight, whatever. It was like this, this brutal honesty to a certain degree that I felt like, man, when we were still together, you know, three years later, I was like, geez, she really actually loves me, you know? Cause I wasn't exactly, I was like, I'm going with my guys to do this. And it was brazen at times, you know, but at least she knew where I was and,

And I feel like sometimes people make excuses for people they're dating who all of a sudden they'll be like, you know, oh, yeah, I went out with my buddies last night. Oh, is that why you never heard from me from seven o'clock until today? Two in the afternoon the next day? You know what I mean? It's like, come on, man. If you got a certain rapport going with someone, then, you know, anything out of that has to be a little bit of a red flag. Again, like if they want you around, like I think the biggest red flag, I guess, to me would be like if they're only calling you late at night.

Right. Booty call. So like, again, like if they really care and they want you around, they want you around other times than those, those moments. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They want you around those times too, but they actually want to do like other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I actually think one of the coolest things and I, and I definitely saw this with, with my wife was when I would do stuff with the guys and I would actually like want her to be there.

I didn't feel that need to have this like guy time, you know, I was more like, why don't you join us? We're going to watch the game, you know, whatever. And, you know, and she had the choice whether she wanted to come or not, you know, but it was like, I always wanted her to feel that inclusiveness. And, you know, she's often told me that that was one of the things that she loved about our early relationship. Yeah.

Oh, this is a good one. Why do guys send unsolicited dick pics? And why so quickly? I think that's a new thing because I can tell you honestly, I have never sent a dick pic. I have never either. Like, I don't like, and again, like this might be, maybe it's because we still have phones that don't show pictures. You probably got a really good point. You can't take a picture of the landline. I've tried.

I don't know. And again, maybe this is like, I'm married to somebody from the Midwest. None of that stuff would ever fly. Right, right. Same. And I just wouldn't do it. Part of me was always like, and I guess maybe it's because

I, you know, I mean, gosh, I was 32 when I went on The Bachelor. And even then, I remember I was, I mean, that was 2005 or four, wait, 2003. Oh, my God. When I was The Bachelor. And so, I mean, cell phones weren't that good at that time. Yeah, their iPhones weren't there yet.

Huh? We didn't have iPhones yet. And I mean, I may have even had a flip phone during my bachelor run. I'm not, I can't remember exactly, but I do remember thinking to myself when people were, I was already, you know, I got married after the bachelor, then divorced, then three years later met Canyon. And by that point I was kind of, you know, well known. And so I wasn't sending dick pics at that point. That's for sure. So I kind of missed the window of opportunity had I,

Had that been something I wanted to do? You know, it just blows my mind because I like I personally I've never even asked my friends about this, but you see it in the media. Right. Where like a figure has done something like that. I'm like, what the heck is going on in their brain to do that?

Right. Honestly, like, don't you know that they can send that picture to like 40 other people go, Hey, this is bills, you know, whatever. It's like, that's how I think of it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And I got one more. This is going to be the last question that we have during our speed round, which probably hasn't been as speedy as the producers would have liked because we're talking so much, but this is what happens when you get two guys who actually like each other on a call together who haven't seen each other in a while.

Now you're going to have to go back in the annals for this one, back in the dating annals. Got it. I'm back. All right. Is sexting ever a good idea? And when and when not would you do it? Sexting.

I, that's a good, that's a good question. Again, like I'm going back to like, I'm married to somebody from the Midwest and this stuff doesn't, this is not something right. Yeah. Yeah. Like if you are in a trusting, committed relationship, right. Right. Somebody that you've tried, like you trust, right. It's beyond having kids. Right. It's like there, there may be a place for something that is,

But I will say, in my personal opinion, like things on your cell phone are always findable. Right. I remember that. And I can't remember. Was it Jennifer Aniston or somebody, some celebrity, like all these pictures came out and she thought they were private. Just remember that. I think about what I'm telling my son right now about what you should post or not post on Instagram or whatnot. Yeah. The internet, your phone, it freaking lives forever. Absolutely. Dude, I think about it all the time. I tell my nephew that he's 25 now. And I was like, dude,

Just, you know, watch what you write out there because, you know, I get it in the heat of the moment you feel this way, but six months from now, it's probably not that big of a deal, but now that's going to follow you around. So just, you know, I think about it all the time. I really do. So I kind of keep my stuff to a very lighthearted, you know, level set medium at all times. There's cute winky face emojis for a reason. Yeah.

That is so true. Well, dude, I love it, man. I love catching up with you. Thanks for doing the rapid fire question with me with I do part two. I think I'm so glad when they called me and said that they're going to have you on it with me. And I was very excited about that. And great to get to meet Gary on the first the first part of the show and and for us to get to catch up with all of this. I mean, anything you learned from my answers today? Because I learned a lot from yours.

Well, I mean, I think, you know, what really took me to is just like talking to people that are like, even though you're a couple of years older than me in my in our age group. But Gary, like Gary's in a different stage in life. He's retired. He's looking for the word he kept on using was companionship. Yeah. And I think if even the younger people that are listening or watching right now, think about that word.

Like, what does that mean? He didn't say anything about attraction or jumping on it, jumping, jumping somebody's bones or something like that. He's looking for a partner, you know? And I think that's interesting because he,

I think we all are. It's just that, you know, when we're in our younger years, we don't really realize that that's going to be the thing that makes us so happy in the end is that person that, you know, hopefully we grow old with. And we, you know, we have these experiences with the share and we look back and it's, you know, it's all puppy dogs and rainbows, right? That's right, baby. We all know that's not always all puppy dogs and rainbows. At least when you have a five-year-old.

Right now, there's no puppy dog in there. It doesn't seem to ever be a light at the end of the tunnel or a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but I know it's coming. I know it's coming, I swear. Well, thanks again, buddy. And hey guys, if you're listening and you're ready to get back out there, but you want some dating advice or you're ready to find love, we want to hear from you. So call us, leave a voicemail with your questions. Our number is 1-844-4IDOOPOD. That's 844-443-6763. Of course, email us at idopod at iheartradio.com.

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