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Hey there, folks. Welcome to I Do Part Two, a one-of-a-kind experiment in love and podcasting. And we are not here to help just any old body find love. Oh, no. Robes, we are here specifically for certain folks. Yes, for folks who didn't get love right the first time or maybe even the second or third time, just like us. We are two of your hosts for I Do Part Two. I'm Amy Robach.

And I'm TJ Holmes, along with our fellow co-hosts, Jenna Kramer and Jenny Garth, as well as our celebrity mentors. We are going to give guidance based on all of our varying degrees of relationship experience. Experience, you say? Well, for us, that means two divorces each. So we are not here to sit on our pedestal and point fingers. No, we encourage all of our listeners to call in, write in with their stories. We know we're not alone. And their hopes for getting love right

The next time. And one of those folks we heard from is someone that maybe some of our listeners are even familiar with. But take a listen now to one of the people who called in and say they need help looking for love. Hey, this is Elizabeth Brown, and I was just listening to the podcast, and my friend had told me that I should call in, so here I am. I'm 44 and three and a half years divorced. I'm

co-parent a beautiful six-year-old daughter together, and they're the next show. So anyway, any way you can help, any advice would be well appreciated. Thanks. Bye. So sweet. So sweet. Elizabeth Brown. If that doesn't sound familiar, maybe you remember her as Elizabeth Kitt, Elizabeth Kitt Brown. But Elizabeth is joining us now on the podcast, and I'm

Honestly, we actually asked our producers, Elizabeth, whether or not you actually just called in or if there was some sort of a reach out to you. And no, you genuinely called the podcast asking for help. And folks might know who you are because you were a contestant on The Bachelor. Yes, ma'am.

A long time ago, yes. Season 14. Season 14, and then also, so I know Bachelor in Paradise, but you were on a show that predated that as well, correct? Yeah, Bachelor Pad. First season. Okay, remind us what Bachelor Pad was about.

So it was more of a game show where you had a chance to win $250,000. So you were looking for money, not love on that one. Yes. Maybe a little bit of both. Win-win.

Win-win, yeah. But you did end up getting married to someone who also was in the franchise. He was on The Bachelorette. So you ended up not on the actual shows you were on, Finding Love, but in a way because of the show, you found love. So tell us a little bit about what happened. We know you're divorced now, but tell us about the romance and then what happened.

Yeah, so coming off the shows, Ty was in L.A. visiting, and I met up with him and a bunch of the other Bachelor people watching football, and I...

Took to him right away because he's tall and he's a country boy. And there's that immediate attraction right after the show. But then we both got into your relationships. And it was at the end of my two-year relationship and I changed my status on Facebook. And 12 minutes later, he slid into my DMs and said, I think we need to talk. 12 minutes? Elizabeth, 12 minutes? After you changed your status? Yeah.

12 minutes after the status change. He was just standing by hitting refresh, refresh, refresh for two years. Yeah, so it was pretty cool. And he was living in L.A. or sorry, he was living in Nashville. I was in L.A. and I was looking to leave L.A. at that time. I'd been there five years and we just decided I would move to Nashville. And it was fantastic.

pretty quick dating relationship until we got married. So it was all really fast. But how fast? I moved here. And when we started talking in February, I moved here in April, right in with him. Wow. Yeah, I've never lived with a guy really before that. And then

We got engaged in October and married by that following March. Wait a minute. Okay, help us here. Again, everybody has their own journey, their own experience. But to meet somebody, it's one thing to move in with somebody after, what did you say, February to April. But you moved across the country. So what went into that big of a decision to not just move in with a guy but to uproot your life and move across the country for a guy? Yeah, you know...

It wasn't the first time I'd moved across the country. Oh, okay. So I was kind of used to it. It's your thing. Okay. I don't know. I was 33 and he was 34 and we were just kind of at that age where, you know, we just wanted to kind of go for it. And, you know, I really wanted, you know, a lot of kids and,

Yeah. You're in your early 30s. The clock's ticking. I get that. There was a lot of thought. No judgment here. I was engaged in four months and married in 10 months. It also ended in divorce. So I understand how sometimes you can get caught up and maybe not do the due diligence you should have done to make sure you're actually compatible, make sure he actually is the one. So I know it's

We both know it's so hard, especially when children are involved, to make the decision to divorce. What happened, if you don't mind us asking, what happened in your relationship where you all decided that was the next best step? Yeah, I mean, we, I think looking back, I needed to do a lot of work on myself before getting into a marriage. I'd always been the girl that was in the long line.

relationships and I went from relationship to relationship since high school and I guess I never really found myself in order to present myself well to a partner and so looking back this last three and a half years I've done a lot of work and just kind of

being single and just being alone for the first time. And there's been so much growth in that. I finally found really who I am and I'm comfortable in who I am. And I had to get to know, what do I even like to do? What do I like? Because I would always get into a relationship and just become whatever that person wanted me to be. I was good at it. So yeah, really being alone and sitting in that and

Discovering myself the last three and a half years has been really kind of cool.

So I probably should have done that before. You know, I feel like I gave it a good go for seven years with him. And, you know, we had some struggles with fertility. So we did the whole IVF thing and got our miracle daughter and who we both adore. And we co-parent very well together. And yeah, I think now I'm kind of ready to start dating. But it's a challenge, you know, it's

It's not just me that I have to think about bringing someone else into, you know, this little world that we have and, and just finding time as a single mom and, and,

Just all the things, you know? Elizabeth, can I ask the work you said you've done in the past 300 years and 300 years, three and a half years. It feels like 300 years. Okay, three and a half years. The work you've done on yourself since divorce, the person you are now and what you've become now,

Is this Elizabeth better prepared to be in that marriage that you were in? Can you be a better partner? Can you all potentially work now because of where you are or that ship's just passed? Well, he has a girlfriend now. So no. And they've been dating for quite a while. Okay. That ship has failed. Thanks, DJ. No.

thought about it, you know, right when we got divorced, you know, could we get back together? I just think that, you know, he probably wouldn't have married me now because, you know, I'm just so much more grounded in who I am and what I want and my boundaries and, you know, my voice. And so, yeah, I just, I don't know that it would work. And we co-parent really well. And I like his girlfriend and I think they've got a great thing going. So, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, and you know what? That's awesome because that woman, if she's...

hangs around is obviously in your daughter's life and will be a part of your daughter's life. And so that's always something to consider. I just came out so bad. That woman. Yeah. Well, I don't know what you were saying. I mean, look, we've been down this road. I've been down that road. I've been on both sides of it. I have my daughters have a stepmom. I've been a stepmom. So I get it. It's you're not just marrying or dating a person. You're dating their

their children too, and their family, it all matters. And so that's a big part of the equation. Have you dated in this three and a half years? And what has that experience been like post-divorce?

It's been wild because I've, you know, never really been single this long. And I guess right after my divorce, I kind of put myself out there too soon. And I went on a few dates and I'm like, you know, this is not the time. But it was also really strange because for the first time ever, really young guys would be the only people that would hit on me, like really young. And I'm like,

I don't know about dating younger guys. I've usually dated people my age. And so that was something that was interesting from the start. Did you go on dates with those younger guys? Did you say yes? I did, yeah. And what was that like? They were fun. They were like...

They, well, I feel like I'm kind of young at heart too. And especially, you know, I'm 44, but I have a six year old daughter. So I'm kind of more in that, you know, younger age group with my mom group and things. So, um, but yeah, they felt like the younger guys really put in more of an effort and they got really excited about the dates. Whereas,

The older guys, or guys my age or even older, they're just kind of like, yeah, you want to go on a date? They're just not really excited. You know, Elizabeth, you say younger guys. What age range are we talking about? Like 10 years younger, like early 30s. All right, you're not going out with 24-year-olds. No, but they would hit on me, and I'm like, sir, you are way too young for me. Why do you think that is? Why is it that younger guys are coming after you?

I don't know. It was kind of a joke there for a while because anytime I'd go out with my friends, you know, the only guys that would hit on me were really young and they were like, how old was that one? I'm like, just way too young. How old was that one?

Some women might say that's not a bad problem to have. I was going to ask you, is that a compliment to have a young guy? It is a compliment. I would absolutely think that was a compliment. I mean, look, I snagged a younger guy. TJ is four and a half years younger than me. I'm curious, how much younger would you feel comfortable with dating and maybe eventually marrying? Do you have a number going younger and a number going older?

Yeah, so because I put a lot of thought into that and there were some, you know, younger guys that maybe I wrote off a little too soon. But my criteria is I don't mind them being, you know, 10 years younger, probably at the most. But my thing is, you know, they're 34 and, you know, do they want kids? Because I don't want to have any more kids. You know, I'm 44. So kind of past that.

I think if I were a decade older and they were a decade younger at the time, I don't think it would be that big of a deal because the baby years are kind of off the table, if that makes sense. Where and how are you meeting folks to date the past three and a half years?

Oh, geez. Sometimes through the app and sometimes out and about. Ideally, I think I would like to meet someone, you know, that is like a setup, you know, through a friend or something because it would feel more vetted or at work. But now I work from home, so I don't like go into an office every day where I'm meeting people all the time. And I live on a little five acre farm outside of Nashville. So I'm kind of

a lot. So it's kind of harder. I feel invisible a lot. It's like, how do I get out there and meet people? Don't put too much stock in going to the office and meeting people. Office romances go really bad. It can actually end your career. Yeah, that's what we hear. So...

We wish we had a five-acre farm. We could have absolutely used that about a year ago. Do you have, you know, you said you don't want any more kids of your own, which is understandable. You've got your beautiful six-year-old daughter. But what about dating or being with a man who also has his own children?

I would love that. In fact, when I was in my early 30s and not married, I started thinking I'll probably be a stepmom because I'm getting a little older. And I was excited about that idea of being a stepmom. I think the hardest thing, though, has been I've met guys that have kids.

But then it's trying to find time, you know, like with parenting schedules and everything. It just seems like if you're if you have opposite weekends, forget about it. You know, you'll never see each other. What is the I guess how serious would things have to get before you would allow somebody you're dating to meet your daughter who is six? Right. So has anything gotten that far? And what what would need to happen for you to be comfortable with somebody meeting your daughter?

Yeah, I've put a lot of thought into that, too, because I don't want, you know, her getting attached to somebody and then not working out or, you know.

whatnot. It would just have to be, I don't know if there's exactly a timeframe on it. I've heard like six months is a general rule, but I think it would have to be, you know, I could really see this person being in our lives, you know? And so anytime I start talking to somebody, I think of that. I'm like, well, how would they fit in what we have going on? You know? My ex,

And Ty's got a good situation because she's got two boys that are around my daughter's age. And Blakely's already calling them her brothers, which is cute. So I love that for her to have that sibling, the siblings. So yeah, if it happened for me, that'd be great. T.J. just said that's cool to hear. And it is so nice to see a mom supportive of

of her daughter's experience in another family and just knowing I used to always say this but I think you're in the same wavelength the more people who love my girls the better they're going to be so why would I be jealous or territorial if it just means they're being loved by more people and that's I think how you have to look at it if you're looking out for their best interests

No, that's so true because I ran a half marathon a couple weekends ago. Congratulations. Thank you. And I didn't have anyone to watch my daughter and his girlfriend was available and she said, I'll take her for the morning. So I got to drop her off, you know, with his girlfriend and they went and got their nails done. And then afterwards I went to pick her up and me and the girlfriend talked for quite a while, you know, just kind of hung out and talked.

And it's really cool to see that. And she was excited because she doesn't usually get one-on-one time with my daughter. So she thought it was really special that they got their girl time because she's a mom of boys, you know, so she doesn't get to do the nail stuff very often. So it's cool.

What are your, and again, that's wonderful to hear given we have two divorces, excuse me, four divorces between the two of us. And, you know, those family dynamics can be difficult and it's good to hear it's working as well as it is. So,

So really, we just got to get you hooked up here. So what are your absolutes? For me, it's smoking. Like if I hear somebody is a smoker, that would be an absolute. I don't even want to go out on the date. Do you do you have some absolute non-negotiables? I will not compromise and date a guy who does blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. Do you have any? Gosh, you know, really, I just.

I'm looking for someone that's very kind and somebody that loves kids. I guess probably if they didn't love kids, that would be a big deal breaker for me. So just like loving kids, being family oriented, I also have to have the same sense of humor because I realized that in my marriage, I was like, you don't get my jokes. My jokes are funny. Yeah.

It's a little highbrow, but, you know. We're dark humor. Yes, and I think one of the ways we connected as friends was through humor, 100%. And that had been something that I hadn't experienced before, someone you can laugh with. And I love that you just said that because...

I think we both, I know I have learned that that for me is a huge component of our relationship is that we can laugh together and laugh at the same types of things together. And yeah, when you don't get each other's humor, that's tough. That's a huge disconnect. And I've had that. Like, you're like, well, this is just, and then you can't have fun. The whole point of, right, we should be enjoying each other and you kind of have to enjoy each other's sense of humor.

Yes, and I never realized that was such a big thing for me until, you know, yeah. And then when somebody laughs at me, it's almost like my love language. I'm like, oh, they get my jokes. Like, they get me. And so I just love that. It's so funny what you just said because...

DJ laughs at me. I laugh with him. But I'm okay with that. I'm fine if I'm the source of the humor, not something that I was choosing to be. I tell you this all the time. You're one of the funniest people I know when you're not trying to be funny. Just you being you, I end up falling off. Yeah, you're hilarious. You really, really are. But when I try to crack a joke, it falls flat every time. So now I just be me, and that apparently is funny. It works, baby.

That's awesome. We also had someone else, I think a friend of yours, Rebecca, right? Also who's a member of Bachelor Nation, ended up calling in as well. And again, we're telling folks, this came out of the blue. We did not solicit. So you all just happened to both call in. We're going to hear from Rebecca a little later on I Do Part Two. But you have us now. Look, we have a lot of relationship experience between the two of us. And so if you have access to us and all of our vast...

experience and background, what would you want to ask? What are some questions you have for folks like us? Oh, gosh. Well, I love that you guys met and you were friends first. You know, I think ideally that that's what I would love to have. But like,

I find myself going on dates and kind of sabotaging them from the start because I don't want it to go too fast. You know, I'm like, I just want to get to know each other's friends. Can we just go do fun things in Nashville? And if, you know, we fall in love, we fall in love. But, like, I'm not going into it trying to fall in love. I just, you know, want to get to know people and hang out and, you know, see where it goes. But, like, how do I...

How do I say that on a first date? Like say I met someone from the apps and I'm like, I would argue that you have a challenge if you're on a dating app and you set up a meeting with the person of that dating app, they're going to think they're on a date period. Yeah. So it's hard to get someone out for a meal or whatever. And you're, you're halfway through your surfing turf and that bottle of wine and you say, Oh yeah, by the way, I just want to be friends. That's not going to go over well. I'm serious. It just, it's difficult to set it up that way.

I would argue, and I will ask the question as well, is there someone already in your life who could end up being that mate? Because for eight years, I didn't know this one sitting next to me. I would end up in a relationship with it. Never crossed my mind.

So it's possible that person's already in your life. I just think, Robe, she's like it's a challenge to on a dating app get somebody to then think, oh, we're just I just want to be friends and then see what happens. So I think, yes, saying that is off-putting immediately. And you're right. I do think that probably sabotages because I mean, if I heard that.

from someone who I was excited about meeting or seeing, I would feel like, wah, wah. It would be like, was it something I said? Do you not like how I look? That's a good point. You would feel that immediately, so you're immediately going on the defense. But I think that if you have it in your mind and you know that you want...

a relationship that is built from a friendship, I think you don't have to announce it. You'll just feel it out. If you have that friend vibe with somebody who you also are attracted to, that's obviously what you're looking for, right? So I don't think you have to say it. I don't think you have to announce it. I think you just know, I'll know it when I feel it. I'll know it when I see it. We're laughing at the same things. We both like to watch horror movies, whatever. We both like to run half marathons. You start to see that you've got similar interests and

and similar ways of reacting. I was a similar mode of operation. I've noticed that in looking at what's worked and what hasn't. If you value the same things, you operate similarly and you like some of the same things, that is how friendships are built. So if those components are there, there will be a friendship in addition to the romance. But I think you just have to look for it. If

if you announce it, I think you're going to turn people off for sure. Yeah. And that's happened. It kind of feels like a rejection.

Or like you're on a trial basis and that doesn't feel good. Like, oh, now, you know, now I'm... A trial basis is a good way to put it. And I think it would definitely make me feel like I wasn't good enough. Or, you know, I think that might be... And not that women don't have egos too, but I think the masculine ego tends to be even slightly more fragile sometimes in those moments.

And I asked Elizabeth, is there anyone you can think of in your life right now? You might not even be thinking about them as a romantic partner, but do you have some friend that's been around a long time? Do you have anybody in mind? You don't have to say who it is, but do you have anything like that? Somebody who's been kind of just hanging around for the past, I don't know, eight years? Yeah.

I wish I could say yet. When I moved here and moved right in with my ex, we got friends together. So I kind of moved into his world. And after the divorce, I've had to find a whole new group of friends. And they're all married. My mom, they're all married. So not yet. No, I don't. But that's what I would think about that situation. But yeah, to her point, you don't have to announce it. You'll just feel it and it'll...

It'll flow. And if y'all want to get together again, next time it might be for a baseball game or it might be for something more laid back and not necessarily have the pressure and the romantic feel of an actual date. And it'll just happen. It's funny because I think so many women go into these dates, especially someone who may be divorced, looking for a new partner who's had the time to work on themselves and kind of almost feel like in a rush, like,

I don't want to date you unless you're serious. It's so funny you're saying the exact opposite. But both of those things, I think, send people running. Do you have any thoughts on where I would go to meet single guys instead of going on the apps to set that up? Luckily, I've never had to do the app thing, but I've only heard... I mean, there are obviously success stories, but it feels like it's so hard to determine what people's motivations are on those apps. So I would...

So you mentioned you just ran a half marathon. I don't know if Nashville, but I'm assuming they have run clubs. But I feel like if you love running or you love hiking or you love biking, whatever it is, join the club in your area. Like we see this all the time in New York. We have run clubs everywhere and it's so cool. But this is like the new non-dating app, but like person to person, in face, marathon.

meeting with folks who share the same passion and you could start running together and it just could develop. There's no pressure then because you weren't swiping left or right. You're actually just doing something you love and they are too. So that would be a suggestion of mine to join a run club. I know you've got a young daughter, but if you can fit it in once or twice a week, you might meet some really cool, awesome people who share your interests. Yeah. And usually the runners are in pretty good shape. Um,

That's just an added bonus. But your friend group, I know you talk about the other moms. I mean, they're all coupled up, but in that group, anytime there's a chance to get to little folks you meet, we are invited to so many little events.

I don't know, movie premieres or little book signings. Anytime you can get into a situation where there's not pressure, where it's just a group of folks hanging out. Say yes if a friend wants to drag you to a church potluck. Say yes if a friend wants to drag you to whatever it may be. I think you always have to get into a situation where there's no pressure when

when you've met these folks. There's no pressure to sit down for a meal, no pressure to make a connection. And it just happens naturally to get, go to a wedding, go to any social, any of these social gatherings where they're just, people just want to have a good time. And I think that's the way to go. Say yes to everything. I love that. I love that. Now you guys are both parents. So what are your thoughts on the whole introducing someone to your kid thing? Like what,

what are your thoughts on that? Yeah. I mean, I think it's obviously we all want to protect our kids at all costs. And I,

would not and did not introduce my then young daughters until it was somebody who I knew was going to be in their lives for a long time. But you can't ever predict the future, obviously, and it's a case-by-case basis. I wouldn't, for me, I don't know that I would give it a timeline. It'd be more, if we are in an exclusive relationship and we've decided to take that next step not to see other people,

it's hard to constantly... And some people choose to do that, and I respect that too, but I think...

once you've made that commitment, that for me would be when I'd be willing to start to introduce that person into my children's life. I agree. And we, or we just went through this again. My daughter is 11, but we let her guide, um, how she wanted to be introduced. We, there was never a time I had to, I put pressure on her and say, this is what's happening. It was more let her guide when she got curious or when I continued to talk to her about it and say, Hey, are you okay? If robot comes to this or comes over to that and then it's just become, um,

To the point now, sometimes my daughter doesn't want to come over and hang out or go do something unless, oh, is Robot going to be with us? Right. She asked for it. So we got to this great place. But she 100 percent led the way on what she was comfortable with and when. Six years, seven years old, like your daughter is, maybe she is getting to the point. She can make that call and she'll get curious. But it really helped to kind of the child is old enough to let them guide.

Yeah, I love that. That's really good, letting them guide. What happens if they meet the person and they don't really like them? What do you do? Do you stay in the relationship? Well, you know what? So, especially if they're older kids, like you could be in this position, right? So you could be introduced to this guy's children who are older and they may not like you. And I think...

I would just say whoever the person is who's not being liked by the children, that's kind of a red flag because those children are never going away. And you might want to spend some time trying to convince them, but sometimes it just...

doesn't matter and you are setting yourself up or that your potential partner is setting themselves up for a lot of friction that is almost impossible to undo. That's why, yes, take your time, but if there is a bad experience and a bad feeling and bad juju,

that might be really hard to overcome. And I think it might be, I mean, the person who is not liked might be the person who has to say, this isn't a comfortable situation for me to be in and nobody wins. So that's a really tough one because I'm sure there are people who can, and children who can be convinced and persuaded, but sometimes you have to ask yourself, can I be in a relationship with somebody when I know every time their children are around, I feel uncomfortable or they feel that it,

I have found that to be a very difficult situation. Then you have to ask some questions about why the kids might not like the other or the boyfriend or the girlfriend. And the onus has to be on the parents of that children to a great degree. Like what, what have they been saying? Why have they not guided this process a little better? Because no kids should just, they might not like somebody because, okay, my mom is being replaced by other parents. They might feel that way, but they shouldn't. And I know it's delicate and it's very difficult, but,

But to just hate somebody outright, you have to have help from your partner to guide that situation. But to Robach's point, it is so, relationships are hard already. Blending families is hard already. On top of that, we have to navigate your children not liking me. That is difficult to almost impossible to do. So that's a really, really big deal.

Yes. No, it is. And that is something to, like when you have children or when the other person has children, that has to be considered. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Very much so. Well, being out on this farm and working from home, I don't have a lot of opportunities to get out there and meet people, not to mention the time, right? So I've got my daughter 50% of the time, so the other 50%, I try to use that to go out. But then I'm

Sometimes I just need some me time to do an alone time. So my time is pretty limited. I say, how far out is this farm? I mean, do you have to drive into civilization? Why can't you go out? Yeah, I mean, I have to drive in. So it's like 35 minutes. That's effort. Yeah, that's effort. That's effort. Yeah. That's tough. Well, you know,

I don't know what you're doing in early December. I know what she's doing because we're going to drag her ass out to L.A. This is what's going to happen now. This is what's going to happen. We're going to all take a road trip. All right? So we're going to get you off that farm and you are going to be our guest for the Jingle Ball December 6th out in Los Angeles, California. You're not just going to get to go out and have a good time and party and walk the red carpet and do that whole thing. You're actually going to come out

And we're going to put you to the test. I don't know how you're going to feel about this, but our celebrity mentors are going to come out.

And they're going to observe you. You're almost going to take a flirting test. They're going to watch and see how you operate as you're trying to meet people. And then they are going to give you kind of a grade on how you do. And they're going to help boost your confidence, getting back out into the dating world, putting yourself out there, showing up at this big event and just helping guide you. It's scary to start over and to say, this is what I want. I'm

I'm putting myself out there. I mean, you called us, which I'm really amazed by. By the way, what were you, what are you, why did you call and what were you hoping to get out of it?

Gosh, well, I've been a long-time listener of you guys when you first launched your podcast, and I've been a long-time listener of Jana Kramer's podcast, the Why No podcast. And so when this came about, and my friend Rebecca called me and told me, have you heard of this I Do Part 2? And I said, no. She said, well, listen to it. I just called in and left my information. You need to do the same thing. So, I mean, she

She's been my in it to win it girl. This whole, we went through our divorces together. We've been listening to y'all's podcast together and kind of going through it. So yeah, this is kind of funny that she told me to call in and now here we are. Let me ask it this way. You're going to be out in LA, of course, a jingle ball. They're going to observe you, maybe give you some advice. Yeah.

what's the best way to put this? Do you think you have game, Elizabeth? If there is a guy that you're interested in, do you know how to make it clear to said gentleman that you're interested? Are you a good flirter? You know, some people say

people say I am but then I don't think that I am I can talk to people but I don't know that I have any game but you know what I think that is game like knowing who you are knowing what you are good at and knowing that hey I'm not going to be able to like sweet talk my way into something I'm just going to be myself you get to a certain age right where you're like hey

This is who I am. This is what you get. I might not be smooth. I might not have swagger, but, you know, I bring other things to the table like humor and athleticism and all those other things. So we're really excited about this amazing event. Jingle Ball, you ready? You excited? I'm excited. Yes. Are you going to come out? Are you going to bring the little one with you or are you going to this is going to be a mom trip?

No, this is just me. Smart. Well, we will see you out there for the Jingle Ball. And Elizabeth, this is really cool getting a chance to get to know you a little bit. This is really, really fun.

I'm excited. Thank you guys so much. All right. More to come. We can't wait to hear all the updates, Elizabeth. And it was great getting to know you. Thanks for calling in and thanks for being on the podcast. Yes. Thanks for having me. It's nice meeting you, too. Good to meet you. And we will see you in L.A. And folks, we want you to know that if you want to put yourself out there, do not give up on the idea of finding love again. That's right. That's why we're here. And here's the thing.

Here's what we want you to know. You can call us just like Elizabeth did at 1-844-4IDOPOD. Let me give you the numbers if that's tough because I hate when I have to find the letters and then figure out the corresponding numbers. Here are the numbers you need. 844-443-6NOW.

You can also email us at idopod at iheartradio.com. How are they going to find love? They can't even find us on social media. Suddenly I forgot how to read copy. It's quite all right. But all this information will be in our show notes that you can rate and review the podcast. We certainly would appreciate that. I Do Part Two, an iHeartRadio podcast. We're falling in love.

is the objective. We appreciate you spending some time with us wherever you are. If it's your first, your second, your third, maybe even your fourth. We hope you got love right this time.