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Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast. This is Murder With My Husband. I'm Peyton Moreland. And I'm Garrett Moreland. And he's the husband. And I'm the husband. If you are watching on YouTube right now, you have most definitely noticed that our set is different. It's because we are in LA actually recording at a different studio and we're really, really excited about it. So if you're a little taken off guard, that's okay. It does look a little bit different. But if you're listening on podcast and it's exactly the same, we might sound a little better. Yeah, we might sound a little better. Who knows?
Okay, so also I did just want to say we have a couple, well not a couple, a lot of new listeners this week. So if you are a new listener or a watcher, hi, welcome to Murder With My Husband, the podcast. We are a podcast about true crime and we try to focus primarily on the victims of the stories we tell.
And our community is amazing and you are accepted here and welcome no matter who you are, unless you're a murderer, in which case you are probably not accepted.
Garrett is my husband right here, and he not only hates true crime, but he also has no idea beforehand about the stories we tell him. His reactions are raw and real, and although not very dramatic, he is probably the best part of our show. And like Peyton said, we usually don't do this intro every single time, but just because we know we have quite a
bit of new listeners. We're doing this intro. And so everyone knows I have no idea what she's telling me each week. Every week's a new story. So that is real. Nothing is scripted on my end. And we're happy to have you here. Okay, Garrett, do you have your 10 seconds for this episode? I do have my 10 seconds. So this week, I was actually going to change it up a bit. There were some comments on YouTube and Instagram I wanted to read because I thought they were funny and they were about me. So the first one is...
So Stefan said, with all the knowledge she has, I wouldn't piss her off, Garrett. Talking about me. Talking about Peyton. And then the next one is by Taylor. And it says, my favorite podcast ever. My husband and I drove six hours from NC to KY. I asked if I could listen to y'all on YouTube because I missed last week's episode. And he said, I'll only listen if it's the guy who does the 10 seconds. And I thought that was pretty funny. That is funny. My infamous 10 seconds. Yeah.
Okay, so our case sources for this week's episode is Wikipedia, a YouTube video from that chapter, and then also NewYorkTimes.com and A Sword in Skell episode number 88. And those will all be listed in our episode notes if you want to check them out.
So our case this week begins in a suburb called Danvers, Massachusetts. And Danvers is actually the new name of this area, which was originally named Salem Village. And so, yes, for those of you putting two and two together, Danvers is best known for the Salem witch trials in 1692 that took place on this exact land we're going to be talking about, which is pretty crazy to me. I mean, I'm interested in the witch trials and all, but I just think that's insane.
So I would dare say that some pretty horrific things happened on this land far before 2013 when our story takes place today. But that doesn't mean the morbidity had stopped. Once again, we will have plenty of haunting footage that goes along with our case today. So if you want to watch as you listen, go ahead and check us out on YouTube. It's just Murder With My Husband.
By 2013, Danvers, Massachusetts was home to roughly 20,000 people. It was a pretty decent suburb with a high school named none other than Danvers High School. The high school is near the local airport and had around 1,000 students around the time of our story. There was roughly 100 teachers at Danvers High School, and one of them was named Colleen Ritzer. Colleen was born in May of 1989 in a town near Danvers.
Colleen was really close with her family and spent a lot of her free time with them. She went to college to become a math teacher and ended up as a ninth grade algebra teacher at Danvers High School in 2012. And I loved my college algebra teacher in high school, so I just...
kind of was thinking about her as I was doing this story. But Colleen was actually active on Twitter. She would tweet little fun math games and things for her students to follow along with. She would tweet about Taylor Swift, like just trying to, you know, kind of keep up with them. She wanted to inspire and find new ways to help her students, not just in school, but in life as well.
So on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2013, 24-year-old Colleen woke up and went to school to teach like any other day. Halloween was coming up, which is always an exciting time at school. It's like the first big holiday of the year. Colleen's average teaching day would usually end around 2 o'clock. And at this point, she would stay after school and meet with some students who needed a little bit of extra help, sort of like a tutor session.
Around 2.54 this day, Colleen Ritzer left her classroom of students and made her way to the bathroom. Around 4 o'clock, the Danvers High School day would end and extracurricular activities like in clubs would begin. Do you know if it was like a big high school?
Well, I said a thousand students, a hundred teachers. Yeah. It was during this time at soccer practice, which Garrett played soccer. To be exact, the soccer coach actually noticed he had a player who was skipping out on practice. That player was 14-year-old Phillip Chisholm. The coach wasn't exactly worried, though. Phillip was a new student who had only been at Danvers High School for two months.
He had moved to Danvers from Tennessee, so he didn't have a large amount of friends yet. As the day kind of moved on and after school time turned into dinner time, Phillip was still nowhere to be seen. His mother Diana began frantically waiting at her phone for a call and checking the clock. Why had Phillip not come home yet?
She had no idea where he was and she didn't know any friends that he could be with because he was new. He didn't have that many. Diana and Phillip's father were actually going through a rough divorce, which was the main reason she and Phillip had actually moved to Danvers that summer. Phillip seemed to be having a hard time with the divorce and the move. And so Diana was especially worried because of that.
After Phillip had still not called or shown up, Diana called the local police at 6.34 p.m. to report her son, Phillip Chisholm, missing. But Diana was not the only parent around town worrying about their child's whereabouts. Peggy and Tom Ritzer were a little worried around dinnertime when Colleen, Mrs. Ritzer, the teacher, wouldn't answer her phone.
She lived with them and would normally have been home by now. And if she wasn't coming home, she always called to let them know her plans, you know, where she would be. If not, Tom Ritzer decided to head over to Danvers High School and see if he could find his daughter, Colleen. So the teacher lived with her parents, with her parents. She was only 24, like she was still pretty young. Her dad thought, you know, maybe her phone had died and she was just working late at school or something.
As he drove up to the parking lot of the school, he noticed Colleen's car in the lot and felt relieved. She was just still at the school probably working.
Tom checked the school but couldn't find Colleen inside the school. He asked around had anyone seen Miss Ritzer and no one had. Tom decides to begin calling Colleen's friends in hopes that maybe they had just picked her up from school and she'd forgot to tell her parents. All of Colleen's friends said they hadn't heard or seen her. Tom and Peggy decided to call the cops and report their 24-year-old daughter Colleen Ritzer missing.
Around 8 p.m., the Danvers High School principal sent out a mass email explaining that 14-year-old student Phillip Chisholm was missing and they were searching around the school if anyone could come out and join. It was around this same time that that same principal got a call about a missing teacher from his school, 24-year-old
Colleen Ritzer. That's so weird. See, like a missing student, I understand more, you know, but a missing teacher, that's so weird. Especially a missing student and teacher. Okay, yeah, that's so weird. The principal was baffled like you. How had two separate individuals gone missing from their school in one day, especially a student and a teacher? Was Philip in Colleen's class? Yes. Okay, I don't know if you said that yet. I'm not.
I was going to. Okay, got it, got it. But yes, he was. Okay. So trying to answer this exact question of how a teacher and a student can end up missing together, I mean, we don't know if they're together, but like, what are the odds? Yeah. People begin to put together that Colleen Ritzer actually taught Philip Chisholm. And Philip had been in the last class Colleen had attended that day, the tutor session class for the kids that needed extra help, remember? Got it. So police do not take this information lightly. Colleen and Philip had attended
been last seen in the same class and were now both missing. It had to be connected, right? Despite the horror of two missing persons, police decide that they will focus the majority of their investigation into the minor for now. A missing 14-year-old, really weird. A missing 24-year-old, she could have just
So how does that work? They're just focusing on Phillip and forgetting about Colleen? No, they know, but for now they're like, we're just going to push the majority into finding the minor. Which I don't think is that weird if they don't have enough task force to split it equally. And I guess like you said before, if it's someone over the age of 18, they usually assign
They wait a little bit longer. Assume first. Maybe they ran away. Maybe they took off. Yeah. And I don't want it to seem like Colleen wasn't being searched for. There were people looking for her, just not as big of a push as for the minor. Totally. So police decide to try and trace Phillip's cell phone. And they discover, to their relief, that it's on. And it's pinging near a movie theater in Danvers. So police rush to the movie theater and they search the theaters. No Phillip. No Phillip.
But they interview the employees and discover on the cameras that Philip had in fact been to the theater around 4.30 p.m. that day. And he had watched Sources Differ, maybe Blue Jasmine, which is like a Woody Allen film, or Gravity with Sandra Bullock. The sources can't seem to decide which one he watched. So I'll say both. And did the parents know that he went to the movie? No. Okay. And...
The employees and the cameras show that he was alone. No teacher, no adult woman with him. And they were figuring that Colleen and Phillip were together. So police begin searching the surrounding streets worried about Phillip's well-being. He was obviously ignoring calls and messages while his phone was still on. Like his mom had been calling him while he was at the theater and he was ignoring it. So none of it was making much sense. What the heck?
Meanwhile, police back at the school begin searching the camera footage from that day in hopes of tracing both Colleen and Phillip until the time they went missing. So like I was going to ask, like always, where's the cameras? So there are 140 cameras in the school. They had just gotten a new system. They had like updated, gotten this new system, but they didn't update everything. And the 140 cameras were connected to an old and slow computer. Of course it was.
And so as like the school cop is going in trying to find the footage, the images keep freezing or crashing that he can't get them to load. It's taking hours to even get two up. And there's no number system for the cameras. So it's not like, oh, let's go to the camera near Colleen's classroom. They don't know what of the 140 cameras is near her classroom. Of course, it's not working. While that's happening.
People and police begin searching classrooms and bathrooms near Ms. Ritzer's homeroom, hoping, okay, well, maybe she's just here. It was during this search that police canvassed the bathroom nearest the classroom and discovered what they determined to be blood smears in the bathroom. It was not looking very good. What? Yes, blood smears in the high school bathroom. Just like everywhere or? I think just everywhere.
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So police outside also discovered an empty purse laying on the ground kind of near the school and positively identified it as Colleen Ritzer's. But all of the belongings inside the purse were missing, like her wallet. I mean, there were a couple of things in there, but most like her money, her cards, her ID, everything was gone.
So police are like, was she jumped? Yeah. Like, why is her purse here? They also found some clothes strewn about around the purse and two pairs of shoes. One pair of women's like black flats and a pair of soccer cleats. So one of them was Phillips, I assume, because he played soccer. Who's still missing. Yes.
and one of them they're assuming to be Colleen's. It was after this that police discovered a recycle bin, like in the middle of the woods by the school, that had a pair of bloody gloves near it.
And then a note nearby all of this that said, I hate you all. So the police are going around finding all this, correct? Yeah, they're canvassing and they're just finding random things here and there in the woods. And obviously at this point they go, whoa, like something's going on. Something's going on, like something bad has happened.
Back at the search for Philip, things were beginning to look up. Around 1 a.m., he was found walking on a sidewalk in Topsfield, which is a small town roughly 15 minutes away from Danvers High School. 1 a.m., like the day he was missing? Yes. So like he went missing. No, the day he went missing. So he went missing after school, right? Yeah. And was missing, went to the movie that we know and then was still missing. And then as the clock rounded up to 1 a.m., he was found. What in the world? Yes. Yes.
It seems that he had actually stopped at Wendy's after the movie to, you know, grab some food or whatever. But things didn't stay joyous for very long. He was found in a hoodie wearing a, like, drawstring backpack.
And it was while searching the drawstring backpack he had that police discovered a box cutter, a pair of bloody women's underwear, and all of the contents of his teacher, Colleen Ritzer's purse inside his backpack. Oh my gosh. And where was he going? Just walking. When they asked him where he's going, he said nowhere. Twice he said that.
And they said, what's with the backpack? And he said, survival like items. So when police ask him, OK, why do you have all of your teacher's things? Philip told them that he had broke into her car at a gas station and stole them. But we know, according to her dad, her car never left the school parking lot. Her car was still in the parking lot when he got there. Police are like, OK, OK, what about the box cutter, the blood and the underwear? Yeah. Like, where did those come from?
And Philip replies with, the girl. That's all he said was the girl? The girl. They put him in the police car. They take him back to the station. I'm confused because, I mean, obviously the story is coming together. But why? Like, why? Yes. Like, it's his teacher. Uh-huh. In the early hours of the next morning, back at the high school, police had discovered the unimaginable. Underneath some leaves, Colleen Ritzer's dead body was found near the high school. She had been murdered and dumped.
Colleen was naked from the waist down and left in a suggestive pose. You can look up what that is if you want. She was covered in dirt, blood, and scratches. And Philip Chisholm's ID was found in his school backpack near the body. But he was found with a drawstring backpack. So he had at least two backpacks. Now I need to clarify here that some sources say Colleen was found after Philip Chisholm.
But at trial, police testified that there was some confusion going on about a missing boy and a teacher and that they didn't really know the teacher was missing because police had pushed the missing boy so hard. So when it came over their radio that a body had been found back at Danvers High School, police thought it was the boy like he had been found dead. I see. And then they like found him walking. Police like found him walking later.
And so that would mean that she was found before he was. So I'm a little like there was not much clarity, but I'll go by the trial that she her body was actually found right before he was found walking. OK, we are going to play some footage on YouTube now because you'll be able to watch this whole next part as I explain what's going on in the video.
police discovered on the cameras at school. So as the night turns into day, the cameras start to work and they start to be able to like figure out what cameras which and piece together what had happened. If you are watching this footage without context, it's not that creepy. It's just some like school footage. But now that we know what happened that, you know, he had all of her stuff in his bag and
It's one of the most eerie things I've ever seen watching it because I have context. So according to Catherine Q. Seeley with the New York Times at 2.54 p.m. that day, you can see Miss Ritzer happily exit her classroom and walk down a hallway towards the women's bathroom like we said.
literally seconds after her you can see philip chisholm step out of the classroom and into the hallway he looks around and then he ducks back into his classroom again just a moment later he reopens the door and comes back out into the hallway this time with his hood on weird okay she walks out you can literally see that she walks out he's waiting for her goes to the bathroom minutes later he pokes out
Looks around, goes back in, comes back out moments later with his hood on. Okay. There is footage of Miss Ritzer right after this, like in the same minute, passing the drinking fountain that sits in between the men and women's bathrooms. And you don't physically see it, but she goes into the women's bathroom. So the camera is pointed at the drinking fountain in between the two bathrooms. And then you can kind of see like the bases of the doors, but you can't like if the door opens, you can't have a camera pointing into the bathroom. Does that make sense? Yep.
So she goes in and a minute later, Philip walks with his head down along the same path that Miss Ritzer had just took. So in this video, you can see him following her. It's like a horror movie. Yes. And as he comes into the frame outside of the bathroom door, you can see him pulling on rubber gloves. He's putting gloves on like in front of the drinking fountain about to go in. He's crazy. He's so young too. 14. 14.
He's nuts. At 3.07 p.m., another female student moves into a frame outside of the bathroom in front of the drinking fountain, and she actually opens the women's bathroom door. And then she immediately turns around and leaves. Like, she opens it, doesn't even walk in, closes the door, turns around, and leaves. In the same breath, like, I'm pretty sure the door doesn't even close all the way, you can see Philip exiting the bathroom door, and you can tell that he is...
clearly uncomfortable. He's adjusting his clothes and he's like almost running. He's like walk running out of the bathroom. So I'm confused. Someone exited before him. Someone came in to go in and didn't go in. Open the door. Whatever she saw made her not want to go in the bathroom and she turned around. Not even two seconds later, he follows her out. He did come out looking uncomfortable because
He had just stalked his teacher, Colleen Ritzer, into the women's bathroom in the middle of the day, 11 minutes earlier, and came up behind her in that bathroom and choked her. He then stabbed her at least 16 times in the neck and slit her throat with that box cutter. Holy crap. All in the school bathroom. And we've talked about this before, but how it's anger. Like it wasn't even, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Like to stab someone's neck 16 times. Yes. Yes.
So once she was down, Philip had sexually assaulted her and he was just pulling his pants up when the other student opened the door and all she saw was his like butt. Oh, okay. And seemingly caught, he rushed out of the bathroom after her, like not wanting to be near the scene. If she was going to go tell someone he was getting out of there.
According to sources, the other student said it looked like she had walked in on someone getting changed or someone having sex. Because she had no idea. Yeah. And so she just turned around as fast as she could. She couldn't clearly see what was going on. She just felt embarrassed. Like, I know I shouldn't be here. No matter what's going on, I know I shouldn't be in there. Yeah.
At this point, Philip then, you can see this on the camera, made his way outside to the student parking lot. And there's footage where you can actually see his hand covered in blood as he's walking down the stairs. Like he walks out of the bathroom and you can see that he's clearly covered in blood. At 3.09, two minutes later, he comes back into the school, this time without his blue hoodie.
So he's gone outside and ditched his blue hoodie and he comes back in just wearing a white t-shirt. I can't believe he thinks that he's not going to get caught. Like that makes me so mad. I don't know. He made his way back to Ms. Ritzer's classroom and then is seen on the cameras coming out the door again at 311 with a red hoodie on now. So he's changed his clothes.
You can clearly see at this point the panic beginning to set in. He's now like run walking everywhere. People are trying to talk to him and you can tell he's kind of just like trying to lead them away from the bathroom or because there's like still people like school still happening.
So there's like people walking around around him talking to him as he hid Colleen in the bathroom. And this is all on the footage, correct? All on the footage and like at 2.54. Like it's the middle of the day. Yeah. He goes somewhere and then emerges back into the camera view with a recycling bin at this point. And he gets to the bathroom with it at 3.16 p.m. So he pulls, he goes outside and pulls a recycling bin in from outside and brings it all
all the way up to the bathroom. Six minutes later at 3 22 p.m. Philip exits the women's bathroom in a white t-shirt again so his red hoodie is now missing once again. He was wearing a black ski mask and pulling the bin with Colleen inside toward the school elevator. He makes it to the elevator and then pulls it outside and that's obviously where we lose frame.
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The district attorney would later state that Colleen was most likely not completely dead at the point that, like, while she was in the bin, she was most likely still alive, just unconscious. Yeah. While outside, Philip, you know, takes the bin to the woods, gets Colleen out, and does some more unthinkable things to Colleen in the woods and continues to harm the body, both physically and sexually. Got it. And also, it's like...
The second time he's hurting her as if he didn't get enough in the bathroom. Does that make sense? Like he did what he did in the bathroom, maybe got interrupted by that girl and then took her outside and continue to do it. And we don't really know if she's alive or dead at this point. Yeah. He also posed her obviously and then left the note.
The DA also states that if she was alive at this point, she would die very soon after to blood loss. Like she would just lose enough blood to die. Around 30 minutes later, the video catches him coming back into the high school. So he spends another 30 minutes in the woods with her body or her. Writes the note and then. Does what he does. Comes back in the high school. Which is awful. He comes back in the high school around four o'clock.
By 4.04, he's now wearing a black shirt. He's changed once again. He has glasses on and he's carrying a pair of jeans. He makes his way one last time to the women's bathroom and then leaves the school for good one minute later. So how many times has he changed now? Like three. Oh. Three or four times though. Okay. And is still carrying a lot of different clothes as well. Yeah. And he's made trips. Like he's in this footage, he's just back and forth, back and forth, running, walking, talking to people. Like it's crazy. Yeah.
In 2015, Philip Chisholm was tried as an adult after attacking another woman guard while waiting for trial.
So they're like, okay, we're going to try him as an adult. While he's waiting to go to trial, he attacks another woman. He had actually followed her into a staff locker room area where he was being held and stabbed her with a pencil. I'm glad he was tried as an adult, but I guess I'm surprised because he's 14. I think just the graphic nature, it wasn't just like he followed her in there, did what he did and left. Followed her in there, did what he did.
covered everything up brought her back out spent another 30 minutes hurting her like it's just a it's a lot and on top of that he attacked someone else yes yes ridiculous so this new lady he attacked was saved after other guards heard the commotion and came in to check it out the guard that he attacked was not seriously injured and it's kind of weird because it's eerily familiar to his first attack on colleen like he's in prison for doing what he did to colleen
and then follows another woman in somewhere and tries to attack her again. Yeah, that's weird. At trial, the defense said Philip had lost all of his structure by going through a hard divorce. He was not mentally aware of what he was doing. His life had been falling apart. And the state's like,
No, he knew right from wrong. Like there's other kids who go through divorce and don't do this. Yeah. Something is obviously wrong with him, but he is mentally aware of his choices. He's crazy. They point out that he had a girlfriend back in Tennessee and in Tennessee, he was like, he liked to skate. He was the top scorer on his soccer team.
He had friends. He was popular. Like, no one saw this coming. No one. The jury found him guilty for what he did on October 22nd, 2013 to Colleen Ritzer.
And he was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 25 years due to his age. Okay. So he'll be 39. Well, he also was sentenced to two 40-year terms to run concurrently for like robbery and rape inside the bathroom. So he was actually though acquitted of the second more gruesome rape that happened
in the woods. Because there's no evidence. There is evidence. Like he used things. So there was like evidence with DNA on it. But it was unclear whether or not Colleen was still alive at the time of the second rape. And if she wasn't, that charge would not be rape. It would be, you know, like awful acts to a dead body. That's a whole different charge. So the jury was like,
Well, we don't know if she was alive. Even though he's the one who killed her, he can still get acquitted for that. So there is a slight chance he could get out, but he would be like in his 80s or 90s.
A student would later come forward to police and tell them that before Philip stalked Miss Ritzer out of class that gruesome day, she had actually been in the tutor class with both of them and observed Colleen and Philip talking about China. Like China, the place. Apparently, Miss Ritzer then mentioned Tennessee, where Philip had moved from, and Philip became visibly upset.
She said Ms. Ritzer pushed the subject a little longer, but once it was obvious that Philip was not happy and did not want to discuss the move, she changed the subject. A friend of Colleen's and a fellow teacher that taught across the hall also comes forward and says that Ms. Ritzer had told her she was unaware why Philip was staying after school for help. She hadn't told him to.
So this class after school that would like come in for help, he was not a part of it. He just showed up that day and she voiced to another teacher, I don't know why he's staying after school. So it's not like he had to be there. So was it all because of the Tennessee thing that just flipped him off or what? I don't know. That same student who said that also said that after this, she saw Philip talking to himself, like under his breath in the classroom, like
Something had obviously gone weird, but this is a lame excuse because according to police, they believe that the crime was planned because he showed up to school that day with a box cutter, a ski mask, gloves and multiple outfits.
That's true. You don't just show, you don't get triggered in school and then just have a kill kit. Yeah. You know what I mean? So they're like, no, he planned this. He planned this. He went there uninvited. And just because she brought up Tennessee does not mean he just got triggered and killed her. And we don't know why he chose her really? No, we don't. Okay.
So according to the New York Times, Dr. Eugene Barrison, who is a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and a specialist in adolescent psychiatry at the Clay Center at Massachusetts General Hospital, says...
I personally have never seen anything like this in the hundreds of cases I've had and the thousands of cases I've supervised. Most kids who commit violent acts have a history, a history of something, of impulsivity, of mood disorders or abuse and neglect. They've had a rough childhood.
He says, I see kids every day who witnessed the most horrifying sexual and physical abuse, for example, or have been abused themselves and they don't do this. Yeah. Any number of internal factors such as.
A psychosis or a neurological condition or external factors such as abuse could be involved, but none that they can like point a finger on. They say most kids who do this have had, you know, like the signs of a serial killer, right? Totally. Like a rough childhood. There's just... Well, I don't... They've been abused. I don't know many cases, but I only know this one because...
paid and made me watch the movie. But kind of like Ted Bundy in a way, right? No one had any idea that someone like that could be a serial killer. Correct. And this is kind of where everyone's confused because
Normally, there are signs. Violent, aggression, whatever. And they're just... Yep. I mean, even in... A couple weeks ago, we covered the case where another teenager killed a young girl. And he had snuck into the house. Like, there were small signs, right? Like, he had snuck into the house. He had stolen pictures of young girls. He had...
child pornography and like violent pornography on his computer. So there were tiny little secret signs that like, okay, something was a little weird. Nothing like this in this case. Nothing. He seemed like a normal kid.
Colleen Ritzer was a beloved teacher and most students identify her as their favorite teacher. They claim she tried her hardest to make them feel safe and loved. She was respected and loved and over 1,000 people attended her funeral. There is a scholarship fund in Colleen's name that goes to help kids who want to go into education and teach the future generations. You can check that out or donate at ColleenRitzerScholarship.org.
And I will say this, the only person who had the power in that bathroom over what was happening was Phillip. - Yep. - And despite what his defense said, he's not the victim here. There was nothing that happened that could make him do this.
Colleen only got two years of teaching, which was her dream. And she only got to do it. She was 24. She was so young. She only got to do it for two years. So in memory of Colleen, whose legacy was to be a kind and inspiring woman.
woman we will remember her and think about her poor Colleen that's crazy insane that is so insane I think for me the thing about this case is the footage that goes along with it which like I said you can check out on our YouTube because like I said without any context it looks like a guy following you don't even
really notice that they both go into the bathroom and then the girl comes in and leaves and he leaves you can kind of see him running which is a little weird you see him pulling a bin with a ski mask once you know the context of what he did when he followed her into there that he was in there stabbing her in the neck raping her the footage becomes a lot more eerie like eerie to watch and just heavy and like oh my gosh it's insane that's so crazy
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