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Okay, so our case this week was sent in by Olivia May, which is the cutest name, might I add. So Olivia May, I love your name. I wish it was mine, but you can keep it. And so thank you for sending that in. And our case sources are a disappeared episode on season two called Paradise Lost and a BuzzFeed Unsolved episode called The Disturbing Mystery of the Jameson Family. And also Wikipedia has a pretty extensive page about.
I saw something about BuzzFeed Unsolved being renewed again or something like that. Well, they have like a lot of seasons. I mean, their episodes are short, but they go on. And I love them, by the way. So if you haven't checked them out, BuzzFeed Unsolved, this is not sponsored. I mean, I just love them.
Our case this week starts in Eufaula, Oklahoma. A woman named Cherilyn meets a man named Bobby Jamison during the summer of 2002 and immediately knew that he was the man she wanted to marry. Bobby seemed like a gentle man and they fell in love and got married in July of 2004. Later that summer, Cherilyn and Bobby Jamison welcomed a daughter whom they named Madison into the world.
Madison becomes the newlyweds whole entire world. Madison lit up their life together. It's now 2009 and Bobby Dell is 44. And Oh, I'm going to say their middle names because their daughter Madison has a very good one. So I'm just going to go through this. Okay. So Bobby Dell, the dad is 44 now. Sherilyn Leanne is 40 and Madison stormy star is six. Okay. That is a cute name as well.
So the Jamison family have been looking to buy a 40-acre plot of land near Red Oak, which is roughly around 30 miles away from their home in Eufaula.
They had found the secluded land on the internet and wanted a fresh start for themselves. Moving near Panola Mountain, which is by the property, is exactly what they want. They would be living next to a small community there who all pride themselves on independence and self-sufficiency, which is exactly the slow lifestyle that the Jamison family is looking for. It's a very off
grid area, you would need a generator, a septic system. A lot of people there live off grid, that type of thing. And this is exactly what the Jameson family is looking for. Yeah.
Yeah. On October 7th, 2009 at 10 a.m., the Jamesons load up their pickup truck to go look at the property they had found. They plan to take a storage container that they already owned on their property they lived in now and move it up to the new property and live in that because the new property didn't have a house. And I'm only including that detail so you can understand how off grid they were wanting to go.
During the drive up to the new property, the Jamisons run into someone who already lives off-grid up in the area. They stop to talk to him and the Jamisons tell him that they are looking at buying this land in the area and they begin asking him questions about it. Like, how do you live? What's your, like, solutions to things? Bobby and Sherilyn ask the guy for directions to the specific plot of land they had found online because they were kind of lost and struggling finding it. And he goes, oh, this is where you're going to go to get there. And so they finally drive to see the property in person.
The next morning, October 8th, 2009, the Jamison family packs up once again and heads up the mountain to see their property. This was the place they would live out their dreams together and alone.
Eight days later, on October 18th, 2009, near Red Oak, Oklahoma, some hunters are hunting for the day when they come across a parked truck near the top of Panola Mountain. It's around 3 p.m. when they discover the truck and they get out and peek in the windows. They find a sickly looking dog abandoned in the truck.
She had been stuck in the truck for days with no food or water. Oh my gosh. The hunters look around for anyone else but find nothing and decide to call the Latimer County Sheriff's Office. Police respond to the call, find the abandoned truck, and break the glass to safely get the dog out and taken care of. Police begin searching the vehicle and immediately feel like something had gone wrong here.
In addition to the dog being left, police found cell phones, a wallet, and purse in the truck, as if whoever had abandoned the truck had planned on coming back way sooner than today. Police also find a bank bag stashed underneath the driver's seat with $32,000 of cash in it. Police identify the truck and belongings as the Jamison family's truck.
Police believe that Bobby, Cheryl Lynn, and their now six-year-old daughter, Madison, must have parked the truck and gotten lost in the woods nearby somehow. Yeah, because it's weird that the money, like if someone was trying to rob them or something, there was 30 grand just sitting in the truck. Yeah.
It would be quite easy to get lost in this area as they didn't know the area well. They had just gotten lost the day before, as we know. Well, the day before they went missing. And, you know, the woods were dense. It's hard to see once you walked in. So five to six deputies began searching the surrounding area of the mountain. Police knew that they needed to move fast. After talking around, they discovered that no one had seen the family for roughly eight days.
And it being October, the nights were getting cold. The family's jackets and coats had all been left in the truck with the rest of their belongings, which made police believe that if there was any chance that they were lost and alive, they didn't have long to find them. It had been eight days. As the search was going on, police also began trying to figure out the last moments of the family's life before they had vanished. Why had no one reported a whole family missing? It had been eight days.
Law enforcement discovers that the Jamison family was a private family, and with their new direction in life trying to go off-grid, it wasn't unusual for them to go days without speaking to friends or family. They would leave town without telling anyone and had also just pulled Madison out of school because they were wanting to homeschool her once they moved up to this new property they were looking at.
So on October 17th, 2009, the search party uses the family cell phones inside the truck to identify if they had moved at some point with them. And it looked like they had. The GPS on the phone showed that they had walked up the hill at some point with the phones. And police positively identify six-year-old shoe prints and some mud along the way. So like they walked up and somehow came back and put the cell phones back in the truck? And then went missing? Okay. Yeah.
They followed the footprints up to a rock where the family had spent about 15 to 20 minutes hanging out, it looks like, according to the GPS systems. They noticed the cell phone had a picture of Madison on it from this area that was taken that day. So they hiked up, took a picture of Madison on the phone, hiked back, put the cell phones in the truck and went missing. So there's a picture of her right before this family went missing.
And all seemed well in the picture. It looks like after taking the photo, the Jamison family hiked back down to their truck and what happened next is a mystery.
Upon the discovery and remembering the large amount of money in the truck, police decide to tape off the truck and start treating the area like a crime scene instead of a family who had maybe gotten lost in the woods. Essentially what we know so far is that this family who was looking to go off grid and had found a property to do so near Panola Mountain had packed up their truck one day with their coats and purses and wallets and toys for Madison as well as $32,000 in cash and
and had made their way up the mountain. - So they had everything.
- I mean, they didn't have, I mean, they still had a house. - But they had a bunch of stuff. - They had a lot of stuff. - Okay. - They had pulled their truck off the road, gotten out, bringing their cell phones with them and hiked a ways up the mountain to hang out as a family, taking a picture of Madison while doing so. And then afterwards they hiked back down, put all of their belongings, including their dog, their coats, everything in the truck, locked the truck. All of that was locked inside of the truck.
and then vanished together as a family without a trace. I don't understand. I don't even know how you figure out what happened. It's like almost an impossible feat. There's no one out there. Yeah, I don't understand how you find anything.
So if the family had willingly left, leaving all of their belongings behind, why leave the dog to die? So if they were like, we're going to disappear, why leave the dog to die in the truck? Why not just leave the dog back at your house property? Also, I already said it earlier, but you wouldn't leave 30 grand just sitting there. Especially if you were going to go off grid. Yeah. Police think that as the family was leaving that day, they were stopped by someone in Metfell Place. So they don't think it was willingly that they left. Yeah.
There were no signs of struggle, though, by the truck. No blood, no broken glass, no signs of a fight. How do you get three family members vanished or in your car or wherever they took them without any signs of it? Police keep the area taped off and continue the deeper search of the truck, digging through the many bags and belongings that were in there.
This is when they come across a buried 11-page letter written from Sherilyn to Bobby. So from wife to husband. Ooh, okay. In this 11-page letter, Sherilyn was lashing out hard against Bobby. It was filled with hate, addressing the stress of the marriage, talking about divorce. Police ask family and friends, and they confirm the status of the Jamesons' marriage, the rocky relationship between Sherilyn and Bobby.
They had been looking at selling their house and moving off-grid in hopes of fixing their broken relationship instead of getting a divorce.
Police asked when the relationship had taken a downturn and everyone pointed back to 2003 when Bobby had been involved in a car accident. He was driving his truck and came around a blind curve and was hit on both sides, making him unable to work and suffering from chronic pain. Medicine wasn't helping with the pain afterwards and he became depressed. The inability to do daily things in depression put a strain on their marriage. Mm-hmm.
Upon discovering this new evidence, police are even more worried when family tells them that Cheryl Lynn actually owned a pistol that she carried in the truck. Usually police search the truck and even the Jameson house 30 miles away, but still don't find the pistol. It's still just weird to me because say she did go in.
Decide to kill them. I mean everything's in the car. There's phones. There's money So this whole thing is just it's just strange and also it's pretty I mean I don't want to say it's easy But in a wooden area where you have acres and acres of land, it's pretty easy to hide two bodies But to hide your own body after if it's a murder-suicide, right? Yeah, because if it wasn't murder-suicide, she would have taken the money Yeah, but if it is a murder-suicide which police are now thinking how is she hiding herself? She has to be out in the open somewhere. You know what I mean? Yeah
It's been two days since police discovered the Jamisons abandoned truck and they are no closer to figuring out what happened to the family. Things have just seemed to actually get more confusing now. All the fire departments and locals decide it was time to do a huge search for the missing family.
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The rough terrain of the mountain made it extremely hard. Tracking dogs, helicopters, police release everything they can. The dogs hint on a large water tank, but nothing is found inside. Missing posters are hung up around Oklahoma for the missing family.
Police begin diving deeper into the Jamison's lives as time goes on. They discover that Sherilyn and Bobby had some secret beliefs about spirituality that they see and talk to spirits and all of that. The angels had been playing with Madison and she was talking to them as well. So Madison, the six-year-old was also talking to these spirits and
and that they also had some evil spirits lurking around their house as well and had actually asked a local preacher if there was a special bullet they could buy to kill these bad spirits. Whoa.
Sherilyn had begun spray painting things in the neighborhood. Things like witches don't like their cats being killed. She had told people that she was a witch at times and her cat had actually died and she felt that someone in the neighborhood had poisoned it. So she was spray painting things to try to get a message across. And once again, this case grows more interesting, but no closer to finding the family. Yeah, because I don't know. I guess everyone has some weird.
Everyone has their own life. I don't know. Everyone has their own life. And what constitutes weird? Yeah, exactly. So on October 23rd, 2009, seven days after the Jameson family's truck was found, police discovered that the Jameson family's home was outfitted with surveillance cameras and had actually caught the family on camera the day they went missing, packing their truck up to go to the mountain. Okay. At some point, the couple intervened
is seen bringing out a brown briefcase to the truck that wasn't found in the truck when police searched it. So this makes the pistol, the gun, and the briefcase are the only two things missing along with this family.
A briefcase that they don't know what's inside and a gun and the family are all missing. And what could possibly be in the briefcase? Right. Like, was it just a regular size briefcase? Yes. And the money bag was underneath. Yeah. The weird thing about this surveillance footage, though, is that the couple walked in and out of the home multiple times in what some people would call a trance-like state, according to the Disappeared episode that covered this.
Police found it weird that both Sherilyn and Bobby probably walked in and out of the house packing the car around 20 times that morning. And each time they would pass each other, they wouldn't acknowledge each other. They wouldn't look in each other's direction. It was just like, like walking in and out. So do you, when you say that, do you mean almost like they were like being followed or being watched or something? Like my first thought was forced, right? Like there's someone standing out of the camera's way, forcing them to do this.
Or those evil spirits. I mean, that's a personal thing. Or drugs. Like there's an op, like maybe they're just out of it. Yes. So psychologists actually study the footage and conclude that the behavior indicated drug use. Okay. So they go with like the most obvious sign and say, this is why we think the family is acting like this. It's weird enough that behavior, that something you can tell something's off. And in Oklahoma, there is actually a major problem with meth.
And police feel like this drug connection could explain the money found in the truck. Like because both Sherilyn and Bobby weren't working. They were just getting disability checks from the government. So it didn't make sense that they couldn't track where this $32,000 had come from. What about the daughter? Was she walking in and out of the house? What was going on with her? No, she's not packing the truck with the husband and wife.
So friends and family think the police are wrong. That the Jamesons didn't use drugs, that they weren't selling drugs. This was not how they were making the money. They couldn't explain the money, but they were like, there's no way this couple, this couple's just like a normal couple. They believe in their spirituality thing, but that doesn't make, they're not doing anything
wrong. They're not harming anybody. Not doing meth. Yes. Okay. So police confront the family with the cameras asking why they would need so many cameras if they weren't connected in shady business like which
I mean, maybe just for safety. Okay. But they've got a lot of cameras. Police are like, why do they need this many cameras? Family tells them, okay, the reason they installed these cameras is because Bobby's father, Madison's grandpa was abusive and threatening. And that the re that was the reasons they had installed them. And that Bobby had actually filed a protective order against his dad and
stating in it that he had purposely hit him with his car at one point, that he had threatened to kill him multiple times, and that he was scared for his life. But I guess in the early 2000s, it would be a little strange. For that many cameras. Because...
It's not like a ring doorbell that everyone has. - Now everyone, I mean, they're a lot more accessible than they were before. - I agree. So the FBI is actually called in on this case and they searched the family home and there were no traces of drugs in the family home or the family vehicle.
Police learned that Sherilyn had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and struggled with taking her medication. Friends and family say that when Sherilyn was taking her meds, she was great, but anytime she felt good and would try to go off them, she would become a whole different person. She was very angry. And people think this explains the angry letter that they found and some of the disturbing journal entries that they actually found in her journal back home.
Investigators rule out her disorder as having anything to do with the family disappearance, though. They also rule out murder-suicide, and they also rule out drugs. So now we're kind of back to did the family just get lost? They rule out everything, yeah. By November 1st, it's been three weeks since the family went missing, and there has been a lot of evidence, a lot of backstory come up
but nothing that can help them solve this case. But around this time, police learn that in July of 2009, the Jamesons had actually taken in a boarder who lived with them that was a handyman. They allowed him to live there as long as he worked on the house and did the things that Bobby couldn't do because of his injuries.
But the man had made Sherilyn uncomfortable by telling her that she thinks she should be killed for having Indian blood. He was kind of like a white supremacist. And so Sherilyn actually pointed her gun at the man and said, "You need to leave, get out of my house."
The FBI tracks down this handyman and rule him out as a suspect as well. Like he had an alibi. So a lot of locals begin to point fingers at the Jamesons as being involved in gang or local crime. Like that's gotta be why they went missing. But police don't think those are true. They don't, they say the family isn't involved. They're just gone in the wind. Yes. Just gone. And all these leads lead nowhere. The search was eventually called off in the Jameson family disappearance be
became a cold case. They had nothing to go with. Until November 16th, 2013, when...
Almost four years after the Jamison family went missing, hunters were out searching the woods for a place to hunt in like days coming up when they come across some bones, human bones. And it ended up being the partial skeletons of three different bodies, two adults and one child. Wow. Okay. These remains were,
were found less than three miles away from where the Jameson's family truck had been abandoned that day. Police searched the surrounding area where the bodies were found and found a pair of shoes, torn clothing, adult teeth, and some more bones, and the bones would eventually be confirmed as the Jameson family, Bobby, Sherilyn, and Madison. All of them.
All of them. Okay. The question is, were they alive during the time of the search? And that's why they hadn't been found because they weren't three miles away. Or had they really been there the whole time? I mean, this search was one of the most exhaustive searches in this town's history. And they were only three miles away from the truck. That's what I was going to say is I kind of have a feeling they were a lot. I don't know. Like hadn't landed there yet. Yeah.
A cause of death could not be identified because there was no evidence of trauma to the bone and there was no skin left. It was only bones. They were outside for four years. The cause of death was ruled suspicious, though, because they have no idea how they weren't found out there and how they even got there.
And just like everything else in this case, the bodies didn't seem to help. They got the thing you need the most to solve a case and it still got them nowhere. And the disappearance of the missing Jameson family is still a mystery to this day. What?
That's it? Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. I thought you were going to be like, man, this happened and then this happened. No, it's an unsolved case. Oh man. We're going to go through very quickly some four options of what people speculate might have happened. Okay, yeah, let's hear it. So the first option of what happened that day is that the Jameson family simply got lost in the woods and died from exposure.
The temperature would have been around 40 degrees at night and eight days out there. I mean, the days go on. But three miles isn't that far? To hike back to your truck. Yeah. So say they did go put everything away, their cell phones, everything, took their coats off, put everything away, and then decided, oh, let's just run home.
back that way for something without our cell phones or anything. Yeah, that's weird. It's still, you would, that's so weird. You could probably stay alive for enough time to make your way at least back to the road. I just don't think you would leave your car with, without any of that stuff. It's so weird. So that's the first option. Okay.
unlikely to me, but also I don't know what else, you know? So the next thing is that the, it was a murder suicide and that's why the missing gun is also missing. Um, but they didn't find the gun, which how would, uh,
Whoever had been the last one killed in a murder-suicide shot themselves and then the gun wasn't found. Could they tell if someone was shot or would you not be able to tell? No, they don't know because there was no damage to the bones. They're not sure how they died. But, you know, murder-suicide due to the bad nature of their marriage or the bad spirits or the mental illness, anything like that could have caused a murder-suicide and maybe that's an option. I don't think it is because...
Like, I feel like they would have found the gun. The next theory is that they were on drugs and were unaware of what they were doing and just wandered off that day or were not doing it in a sane mind, like drove up there, weren't in the right frame of mind, wandered off, couldn't make their way back because they were under the influence. I don't know. That does seem to tie in a little bit to the weird surveillance camera, but also the
Maybe they were just in a fight and loading the car and not looking at each other. You know what I mean? The next and last theory is that the family was targeted and murdered by someone. Like someone followed them up that day. Someone found them and had ill intention and murdered them. It could have been the father. It could have been the boarder who lived with them. It could have been the people who lived off grid nearby. There's even talk that maybe there was a cult that had murdered
Targeted her because she was claiming she was a witch and they had followed them up there that day and done it. But truth is, we have no evidence pointing to any of these things. Oh my gosh. I don't even know what to think because there's nothing. Do you think it's foul play or do you think it's natural? I don't know. I really have no idea. I don't think it's natural. I think that someone...
Even if it wasn't like that, they knew the person. Maybe it was just like someone who lived off grid or something and found them or they got in a fight with someone or something happened where that would explain they were packed up getting ready to leave. And then they met foul play or they were taken away by gunpoint. And that's why there's no evidence of a struggle there.
Yeah. Because if they got the daughter, I feel like the parents would do anything to protect, like they would just go. You know what I mean? But why was the gun gone?
Where's the briefcase? And where's the briefcase? And if they took the briefcase, why did they not take the money? And what was in the briefcase? Because the briefcase wasn't with them. And obviously it wasn't money. And if it wasn't money, why would the person who killed them? Need the briefcase. Yeah. And then also. Too many questions. If it's like this some weird thing that they're involved in, there would have to be a paper trail at some point to point to like, oh, this is the trouble they had run into. I really don't know. I honestly have no idea. I don't know. Because there's so many holes.
We have a lot of backstory. We have a lot of, I don't want to call it evidence, but just details about them and about that day and about what they had in the truck and about their marriage and what they were involved in. And it doesn't lead us anywhere. Yeah. And that is the Jameson family disappearance. I thought for sure you were going to be like, and then. Yeah.
- No, we have to throw in some unsolved ones. But I also like there's family out there wondering, I mean, they had people who cared and they had friends who cared and they're wondering what happened. - And they went missing, that is crazy. - And this poor family and their daughter, their six year old innocent daughter is missing and there's no- - They died. - Yeah, they're dead and there's nothing to show, like there's nothing we can say or help them or anything like that.
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