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57. Chelsea Bruck – The Halloween Mystery

2021/4/25
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Chelsea Bruck and her friends attend Big Mike's Annual Halloween Bash in Monroe, Michigan. After losing each other at the party, Chelsea is seen crying alone in a field, marking the last time she is seen.

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Our case this week begins in southeastern Michigan, a small town called Monroe. Becky Brinson and her friend Chelsea Bruck have been looking forward to this specific night all summer. It was finally Halloween, and in this small farm town, there was going to be an epic party for them to attend.

Chelsea and Becky worked together at a restaurant called Olga's Kitchen, where on this Halloween day, they had been endlessly talking about tonight's party all shift. This party was called Big Mike's Annual Halloween Bash of 2014. It was the biggest party of the year in this small town. Everybody knew about it and everyone looked forward to it all year. Chelsea and Becky worked together at a restaurant called Olga's Kitchen,

Chelsea and Becky's friends would be there. Bands would be there. There would be food. It was just going to be so fun. Chelsea and Becky had been to some of Big Mike's parties before. He held them at his mother's farm. They were always fun. And Chelsea and Becky were going as Batman villains this year. So Chelsea was going to be Poison Ivy at this Halloween party. She had spent weeks sewing on artificial leaves to her leotard.

So she would have the perfect costume. She even had a red wig, a wine jug. The costume was perfect for the party. She spent a lot of time on it.

And fun fact, I used to watch Batman when I was little because I don't know. And I loved Poison Ivy. Like I loved her. I was obsessed with her. That's funny. So it was Saturday, October 25th, 2014, when Chelsea and Becky headed to this long-awaited party. There were two giant open tents set up in the field, like those big white ones that don't actually have walls. They just kind of are a covering. Heavy metal bands were playing on stage.

literally 600 to 700 people showed up and loomed in the crowd at this party. How did he have such big parties? I think he was just kind of known for it. And so people would come from out of town. It reminds me of like the Great Gatsby. Yeah. So and his Halloween one was the biggest one. Okay.

Chelsea and Becky were standing with their friend Penny Watkins. Penny was older than the girls. She actually had her own kids at home, but this was the time when she could come hang out with friends and kind of be 20 years old again, you know? Chelsea was only 22 at the time. She had grown up in a small town called Mabee, Michigan. She was the youngest of five kids. Chelsea still lived at home with her parents at the time of the party.

After midnight, a huge bonfire was started as the bands cleaned up their set like they only were going to play till midnight. Meanwhile, Chelsea was walking and actually bonked her nose on a tent pole at the party like she ran into a tent pole. It wasn't bleeding, but it hurt. Her friends kind of began laughing and after a minute, Chelsea was fine and just continued enjoying the party. Okay.

Around 1 a.m., the girls were going to head home. Penny was supposed to take Chelsea home, but as the time came, Penny and Chelsea had actually lost sight of each other as 1 a.m. came around. Penny would have called, but Becky had actually been holding Chelsea's cell phone all night because in Chelsea's Poison Ivy costume, she didn't have pockets because it was a homemade costume. So she said, here, Becky, take my phone. And then now they can't find Chelsea.

Penny, who doesn't want to leave her friend without making sure she has another way home, knows that she has to go anyway. She's a mom. She has to be up early. Like this was a fun night, but she's got responsibilities in the morning. So she looks around one last time, but she knows Chelsea knows other people there. And so she's like, OK, she'll find a ride home. I'm just going to leave. So Chelsea and Penny are at this party.

Well, they're with other people, obviously. And basically, Chelsea doesn't go missing, but she says... They lose each other at the party. And there's a lot of people there. And Becky, their other friend, has Chelsea's phone. Got it. Okay.

So Becky can't decide if she should stay and look for Chelsea or if she should go home with Penny as originally planned. She did have her phone, but they had been looking and they couldn't find her. Becky kind of just felt stuck. So after some time, Becky decides, you know, I'm just going to leave with Penny. Chelsea knows people here. She can come get her phone tomorrow. She would check in on her in the morning after she caught a ride home with whoever she's currently with now where they can't find her.

And I'm sure you all know where this is going. But Chelsea was spotted later that night alone in the field crying. And that was the last time Chelsea was ever seen. Alone in the field crying? Yeah. So she kind of gone away from the party and was spotted crying in the field. Okay. As Sunday came around, Becky called Chelsea's mom and left her message saying, Hey, I have Chelsea's phone. I lost her at the party. You guys can swing by anytime today. I'll be home.

but no one responded. In fact, Becky didn't hear anything until later that night when a Facebook message came through. And the Facebook message was from Chelsea's sister asking if she had seen Chelsea because Chelsea had never come home from the Halloween party the night before. Becky replied, no, I haven't seen her, but she's probably just at a friend's house. Like we had been drinking last night. I'm sure she's just recovering today. She just went home with someone. We'll find her.

When Monday came around and no one had heard from Chelsea still, everyone began to get a little worried. Oh, no. Her family began reaching out to whoever they could, friends, Big Mike, the guy who hosted the party, and even the police. Big Mike searched his field where the party had been, looking around a couple miles. But when he came back to the house, he didn't find anything. Chelsea's mom was actually at the house.

And she was like, hey, can we search? And he said, sure. So about 15 people showed up and began searching the area. Yeah. Big Mike actually let them camp out on his property, even though he kind of felt like everyone was blaming him or suspecting him. Like, well, it was your party. Like, it's your fault. Is she here? And you know where she is? Do you know how big his land was? His property alone wasn't huge, but it was like a small town. So property just kind of...

Kind of goes on forever. It's pretty scarce in between houses. By Monday evening, Big Mike was actually accused of having Chelsea locked up somewhere on the farm. Like the accusations came out. They weren't just like kind of being speculated, but he denies the accusations. He's like, listen, I'm letting you guys camp here. I'm letting you search here. I have nothing to do with this.

When Penny found out that Chelsea had never made it home, she was worried. But she felt like maybe Chelsea had gotten stuck somewhere, hit by a car, lost something. Because she couldn't believe that foul play could happen in a place like Monroe. And definitely not to her friend. And I am just going to say this. When I've talked to people who don't like true crime, they kind of say, well, that will never happen to me. That will never happen to me.

Everyone thinks this isn't going to happen to them. Every single victim doesn't think they're going to be the victim. You know what I mean? It kind of reminds me, I mean, this might not go exactly, but the quote from Mike Tyson that says,

Everyone has a plan until they get punched. Yes. Yes. It's the same thing. Like you have a plan until. Well, so Tuesday morning, police visited Becky's house to ask questions. And this is kind of when Becky felt like maybe something worse had happened to her friend, human trafficking, kidnapping something, because now the police are here and they're asking questions about that night. Penny began helping Chelsea's family in the search and,

Yeah. Yeah.

People were coming and going. There was no invitations, no sign-in sheet. Chelsea's sister says that Chelsea wouldn't leave on her own accord. She wasn't dating anyone currently, but had been interested in a couple guys, but none of them went to the party that night. Police brought in most of those guys in Chelsea's life, searched their homes, their

their phones, even their clothing, but nothing. There was no leads on them. As police dig deeper, they discover that Chelsea had borrowed six different phones to make phone calls that night after her friends had left. She had even called Penny and asked her to come back and pick her up. But Penny was drunk and didn't want to go back in the car. Chelsea said, it's fine. I'll just find another ride.

Chelsea never called her family that night as she was making those six phone calls. But as we know, Chelsea was seen crying later that night. She told someone she had no one to give her a ride home.

A man tells police that around 3.30 a.m. that night, he talked to Chelsea about her costume. And when he talked to her, he says a taller, slender man with glasses and swoopy hair was kind of standing by Chelsea at 3.30 a.m. And he kind of got the impression that him and Chelsea like knew each other. So he tells police, I saw her and she was with this dude. Maybe it'll help you. So a sketch was released of the guy, but nothing really came of it.

Four days after Chelsea disappeared, police brought in Big Mike for interrogation. They asked for consent to search his house, and when he said no, they came back later with a search warrant and SWAT team. I know we haven't gotten there yet.

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It was around this time when a new tip came in about a young man named Harlan Bird. And he says, well, the tip says, hey, I think he'll have something to do with it because he said that he remembers two men assaulting a female in the parking lot that night.

Um, Harlan says he intervened and helped the girl off the ground. And he says this woman he helped was in a poison Ivy costume. He says his shirt even got her blood on it, but he had washed it by now as police are talking to him interrogation. He's like, well, yeah, her blood got on me because she was being assaulted. Um, but I've already washed the shirt. Yeah. He says that he set her in a car and,

the woman in the poison Ivy costume. He set her in a car and went back to the party to ask around if anyone knew her and could help. Like, is this anyone's friend? She's just been assaulted. When he came back, the car that she was in was gone. That's what he tells police. Was Harlan trying to cover up the fact that he had done something?

Why had someone called in and said he knew something? He didn't come forward. That story seems a little sketchy. A little sketchy. Police begin confronting him. Your story doesn't make sense. It's sketchy. The exact same thing. And Harlan eventually tells them in interrogation, okay, I made it all up. It was a lie. I don't know why I lied. I don't know why I made it up. I just made it up. What? So he's saying none of that actually happened? Yeah. He literally made the whole story up? He literally made the whole story up. He was telling people that...

Someone called in and then he got brought into the police. What the heck? So he was arrested for lying to the police and hindering an investigation.

At this point, Chelsea had been missing for a week. Vigils are held. Her family is suffering. I just, I feel so bad for the family. The search operation is moved to a vacant bank where they could set up headquarters, like have people come in. Okay. You're assigned to this area, this area, this area. Try to make it a little bit more. I've heard sometimes that when families are searching, if it's not organized, it can be like, like people miss things. Um,

So they were trying to make it more organized so it could be more efficient. I feel like they're really putting a lot of effort into the search. Uh-huh. A ton. I mean...

That's all you can really do when someone's missing. But it's good compared to some of the other stories you've had. Yes. They're really going at it. Yeah. And posters of Chelsea's face were hung up around town. Purple ribbons were tied. That was her favorite color. And her family was just trying to keep the search going. But Christmas came and Christmas went with nothing in this case. Oh, man.

Finally, a week into 2015, so this happened in October, so now we're in January of 2015, a woman tells police that her boyfriend confessed to killing Chelsea. She says that he dumped her body in a cemetery in the Toledo area. The woman's name was Carrie, and she tells police that her ex-boyfriend was coming after her next.

And he needed to be arrested right now because he killed Chelsea. Police interview the boyfriend and he says, it's false. Carrie, my ex-girlfriend, she just wants revenge. Like she's just upset. She's an upset ex-girlfriend. So police bring Carrie back in and she admits that she too had lied. Why is everyone lying?

She just wanted revenge on her ex. Carrie, like Harlan, is arrested for lying to the police and hindering an investigation. And police go back to an almost stagnant investigation because once again, they're back to ground zero.

By late March, a woman calls in saying she had found something on the edge of her property that was about two miles away from where the party was that night. Her name was Cheryl. She had been cleaning up for spring and found a shoe. It was a flat red leather shoe. Cheryl's husband brings up the idea that it could be the missing girl. So she finds it and her husband's like,

Hey, that could be like the missing posters. That girl, that could be her shoe. The party wasn't too far from here. Cheryl's like, no way. They searched all...

all over this place, like all winter. There's no way they wouldn't have missed this, but they decide to report it anyways. They're like, well, better safe than sorry. And after checking with Chelsea's mom, police confirm that the shoe found two miles away from the party was in fact Chelsea's shoe that she had been wearing that night. That's actually, I feel like it's pretty far. Two miles. It is like, how did, where did things go so wrong? You know, a

A search begins around the area that the shoe was found and nothing else was found. It had been five months since she disappeared and all that was left of Chelsea was her red shoe. A man named Eric Cassaw begins searching for scrap metal to sell and he's searching about 10 miles away from where Big Mike's property is.

And he kind of looked inside of an abandoned shed-like thing. And this might seem weird to people who didn't grow up in, like, a place where there's a lot of land. But this is pretty common of, like, buildings that are just wasting away because they were used for some reason but aren't being used anymore. And they're usually small like this. And while searching that, he came across a red wig and leotard with plants sewn on it. Oh, wow.

They thought nothing of it, him and his friends that were searching until about a week later when Eric actually saw a missing person poster with a picture of Chelsea wearing the poison Ivy costume. Oh, so those posters work. Yeah. Cause he was like, Whoa, that's the thing we found in that shed. So Eric goes back and he kind of wants to report it, but now he feels like, because he, so he says, I watched, he says he watches true crime shows and he's like, I've touched the leotard and then I left it there.

And he's like, so now I'm scared to report it because I'm scared they're going to be like, you're a suspect. Like they're going to pin it on me. So he tells his sister, he's like, I'm nervous. And she's like, you need to report it. So he decides to report it anyways. And I feel like he thinks like me because I constantly think if I'm like in a suspicious thing, I'll be like, oh, don't touch or move anything. Don't do anything because you don't want this time back to you, you know?

So police collect the costume and find it had been ripped in the straps. So the straps of the leotard had been ripped and the crotch area had been ripped open. Oh no. And so they send it off to the lab and immediately they bring in Eric for questioning, confirming Eric's worries that he's now the main suspect. They ask him all types of questions and Eric stands strong. But as police search the area where the costume was found, they actually discover something.

While they're searching, they realize they can see Harlan Bird's residence from the search area. So Harlan, the guy who came in and lied and said, oh, I saw her being assaulted. No, never mind. I'm lying. They can see his house from this abandoned shed. He lived right across the street. When Harlan comes in for questioning this time, he brings an attorney.

He admits that he's been to the building where the leotard was found, but he has nothing to do with the leotard being in there. He passes a polygraph test and they take his DNA and then send him away. They have nothing else. On April 24th, 2015, seven miles from Big Mike's place, a man is building what he calls his dream home on his property. And so he's excavating, he's digging, he's clearing out area to build his dream home.

And as he's doing that, he finds a body on his property and he calls 911. He had actually backed his dump truck up to like a pile of dirt where he was dumping dirt, but the truck got stuck. So he got out to look what was happening. - It was a body. - And there was a body behind him. He wasn't stuck on the body. He just got out and saw the body. And if he hadn't, like if he hadn't have gotten stuck, he would have dumped the dirt right on top of her. - And no one would have ever found it. - Yes.

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They test it and realize that it matches the costume Chelsea had been wearing. Despite not having solid confirmation that this is Chelsea, they tell Chelsea's family that they found a body that they suspect to be hers so that they wouldn't find out from the media, which we see happen way too often. Dental records verify that Chelsea Bruck, who had been missing since Halloween the year before, had been found. It was her body. Oh, man. That's so sad.

DNA results come back from the leotard around this point. So they had sent it off. They're starting to come back. And Chelsea's DNA and blood was found on the inside of the leotard. And another unknown male sample was found as well. Police run it through CODIS. Nothing. They check Harlan and Eric. Nothing.

But the sample was good. It was solid enough that once they found the person, it would be locked and good to go. It wasn't like one of those dinky samples where it could be like questioned. It was like, this is a pretty big, solid sample. Yeah. Medical examiners conclude that blunt force trauma to the face is what killed Chelsea. Wow, that's brutal. Yes. And this is why her face was unrecognizable by the man.

Chelsea's funeral is held and in September, the man who found Chelsea's body was still building on his property where he calls police again because this time he had found a red leather shoe. Chelsea's other shoe was also found on his property. Police search around the shoe and they find her green tights as well. So now they found everything that Chelsea was wearing that night. They've found Chelsea again.

And they haven't found her killer. So everything was buried like underneath the dirt? Yes. So the killer had literally went and buried things in separate locations? It wasn't deep. Okay. It was more just kind of like thrown and then some twigs thrown on top of it type thing. Even her body. But...

The leotard is found clear, I mean miles away, but that's pretty far away in a shed. But that's the only thing. Her tights are back at the burial site. So it's a little bit weird.

As the one year mark comes up on this investigation, so we're back around Halloween, Big Mike decides that he's not going to have his annual party. He's like, it just is weird. It doesn't feel right. And people are like, no, you should still have it. And so he's like, okay, I'm going to have it, but I'm going to take it into the city. I'm going to go to a club in Detroit and we'll throw it there and we'll start a new thing there instead because it just feels wrong to do it back on the property. Yeah.

The investigation was stalled. Nothing new was coming in. But in June of 2016, police received screenshots. They were sent in from a video that was taken at Big Mike's Detroit Halloween party a year after the murder of Chelsea. They were of, and keep in mind, this is in June. So the screenshots were sent to police in June. A long time after the party. A long time after the party.

They were of a white male with a mustache who had been at the party and people had said he was acting strange. But the only reason these screenshots were sent in, he resembled the original sketch that was released at the first party where the guy with the glasses and the long brown hair resembled him. And people were like, he was acting weird and he resembles the sketch.

After the Detroit party, this man had actually rang someone, some random person's doorbell around 3 a.m. and said, hey, I just got done with this party. Can I sleep at your house?

And this guy's like, obviously not. Like, I don't know you. You can't just ring my doorbell at 3 a.m. and ask if you can stay here. Like, go away. So the kid just ends up passing out on this guy's front porch and then leaving in the morning. And when he leaves, he leaves his leather vest behind. So the owner comes out and goes, oh, my gosh, this kid, like, passed out on my porch and he left his vest. And he picks it up. And when he does, he notices that there's a knife and rope in this guy's vest pocket.

Like hand rope to tie hands? Yes. Okay. So the kid comes back later to get his vest and the owner gives it to him. But the owner had called him and like, hey, this kid left his vest, but like police didn't come confiscate it. And so when the kid came back, he's like, here's your vest back. Police released the photos of this man and the man in the video comes forward. He's like, hey, that's me. I was really drunk that night. I really don't remember much. Police take his DNA and schedule him for a polygraph.

before the polygraph could be taken. Oh, no way. The lab calls. No way what? I think I know what's going to happen. What? Well, the lab calls and the blood's going to match. Okay. The lab calls and claims we have a match to the unknown DNA on the leotard and it's not your guy from the video. Oh, okay. So release him. And it's not Eric. And it's not Harlan. And also it's not Big Mike. It matched a man named Daniel Allen Clay. Okay.

And police had no idea who he was. He lived in Monroe County. He moved from house to house. He was unemployed. He had a couple kids with different women. And he had been arrested a couple months earlier when he had stole a backpack off of somebody. Like just walking. He ran up and stole it and got arrested. But in this state...

Stealing someone's backpack off of them is a felony, which means that his DNA was taken and entered into CODIS, which is how it popped up. He also had two warrants out for him for unpaid child support. So police decide to arrest him for those warrants without saying that he was a suspect in Chelsea's murder.

They locate him at a mobile home and he takes off running from the cops. But officers had been around the house, like surrounding the house. And so they caught him because there was no way he could run.

They put him in a room and he is surprised to interrogate him. And he is surprised when they start asking about Big Mike's Halloween bash back in 2014. Yep. Daniel denies knowing Chelsea, seeing her at the party, or even like recognizing her. It's July 2016. And detectives confront Daniel asking if his DNA would be near or on Chelsea. And he says, no way. I don't even know who that girl is.

So that's when police tell him, well, your DNA is on her costume from that night. So how could that happen? Yeah.

He's like, fine. I had sex with someone at the party. It might have been her, but she was fine after they left. We just had sex and left and she was fine. Isn't it funny how instantly he changed his story? Yeah. Instantly. But the DNA they found wasn't semen. So they're like, oh, so that's why your DNA is like, yeah, yeah, we had sex. And then they tell him the DNA wasn't semen.

It was skin DNA and it was located where the leotard had been torn in the crotch and the straps violently. So they're like, this didn't come from sex. So the detective says, listen, you need to come clean about this. And then the detective sides to tell him a lie.

They tell him that Chelsea had brittle bone disease, which means that her bones could have broken easily. It was an accident that you broke her face. She has brittle bone disease. You guys were having...

You guys were having rough sex and it just happened, right? You just crushed her because she has brittle bone disease. You could touch her and her bones could break. And Daniel's like, oh yeah, yeah, that's what happened. Yeah. Wait, why did they tell him that? Because they want him to admit that he did it. And then later they're going to be like, she doesn't have brittle bone disease, dude. Are you allowed to do that? Yes. Detectives are allowed to lie. Okay. So Daniel's like, yeah, okay. Yeah. I had sex with her and she, I was choking her and she just went limp.

And so he's like, I attempted CPR, but I crushed her chest. That's what he's trying to say. He says he took her to these railroad tracks where he carried her to this property and covered her up. He says he doesn't know how her leotard ended up five miles away from where he dumped her. That's all the story we have.

In May of 2017, Daniel goes on trial for murder and he's pleading not guilty. He's claiming that it was an accident. Exactly the same story. When they confronted him and said, hey, she doesn't have brittle bone disease. He says, no, that's how she died. What did I wonder what his attorney said at this point? Yes. So he claims it's an accident. And the D.A. is like, dude, it wasn't an accident. She didn't have brittle bone disease. There's no way. There's no way.

So the state says they don't have the full story. So this is what they say happened. Daniel went up to Chelsea and he tried to come on to her and she denied him. Chelsea denied Daniel and he in turn took her life, freaked out, got mad at her, whatever, took her life. Also at trial, they talk about how hard it would be to tear a leotard.

And I don't know if anyone knows this, but I basically like lived my high school lives in leotards because I did ballet every day. Leos are meant to stretch like far, like they're stretchy material. They're meant to stretch far. It would need a lot of force and take time to tear a leotard in three spots. It couldn't just be like ripping buttons off a shirt. You know what I mean? And so they're like, dude, you didn't just rip her clothes off and

while having sex with her, this was like done violently to her. Daniel's team argued that it was an accident due to strangulation. Daniel actually testifies his own trial and says that he didn't beat Chelsea. So her broken face probably just happened because he dropped her five to six times while hiding the body. That it was an all, all an accident. I choked her. She lost consciousness. Then I must've just like,

Dropped her on her head a couple of times. Oh my gosh. The jury comes back and obviously finds Daniel Clay guilty of Chelsea's murder. Chelsea's mother actually forgave Daniel at the sentence hearing and handed him a Bible, which we've seen before. And, and it's like, you need to read this. And he's like, thank you. I'll read this. I'm sorry what I've put your family, like he apologizes.

The judge then, with no mercy, sentences Daniel to life in prison, says you're a liar, you're a murderer, and sentences him to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Dang. And Daniel appeals his verdict and...

And Big Mike actually moved his annual party to Detroit for good because it still kind of feels a little weird. But he was like, we're just going to move him over there for good. And Becky and Penny never attended another one of Big Mike's parties. Oh, man. Ever again. But yeah, that is the case of Chelsea.

That's crazy. I just don't understand. I feel like this happens a lot and we probably don't hear about a lot of these stories like at these big parties. All of a sudden people just go missing and it's just sad. I mean, not just parties, everywhere. People just go missing. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm just happy for Chelsea and for Chelsea's family that they saw justice because there are a lot of people who go missing in situations like this.

that, I mean, what is justice, right? But I mean, like law, justice, civil justice, they don't get that. They don't get it. And it's just heartbreaking. And some sort of closure, right? They were able to actually find Chelsea's body and so forth. And once again, DNA comes in and closes this case. They had no other leads. There was literally nothing else that were leading them to Daniel. Yeah. And then his DNA got matched. Yeah.

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