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Okay, so our case was suggested this week by Emily Matthew from Ohio. So thank you, Emily. And our sources are sfgate.com, sfchronicle.com, timesreporter.com, and pressdemocrat.com. Our case starts on August 18th, 2004 in Jenner, California. Jenner is known as a sleepy town in Northern California.
The Sonoma County Sheriff's Department gets a 911 call this morning that there was a man stuck on a cliff that needed help. They dispatched a chopper to locate and further understand the predicament that incited this 911 call. But once up in the air near the beach, the helicopter pilots spot something else.
Down on the beach, there appeared to be two bodies wrapped in sleeping bags that hadn't moved the whole time they were up there scoping out the man that was stuck on the cliff.
Right.
Whoa. So the guy's up on top of the cliff. He's stuck. He needs help. He's stuck and the helicopter spots the two people below. So they're like, oh, they're just sleeping there. But the whole time they're up there, you know, surveillancing this situation with the man. They're like, those people have not moved. They haven't got out of the sleeping bags to look at what we're doing. I mean, they're low enough to the ground that they can definitely see these people. Okay.
22-year-old Lindsay Cutshall had grown up in Ohio. 26-year-old Jason Allen had grown up in Michigan. They had met at a Bible college in West Virginia and fell in love, getting engaged soon after. They were a long way from home this summer night, having just finished up working as river guides together for a Christian summer camp in El Dorado County.
Colleagues at this camp stated that Lindsay and Jason were going to take a three-day road trip down the coast.
since they were in California already and thought it would be fun. So they go down here, they're engaged, they're in love. They go down to teach at this summer camp in California. And after the summer camp finishes, they are like, you know what? Let's just take a road trip. We're a long way from home. We're here already. We'll make it three days. It'll be so fun. We'll see some sites we've never seen. Their credit card receipts show that...
They had, in fact, been visiting tourist sites as they made their way down, stopping at the Golden Gate Bridge and Fisherman's Wharf before this dreadful day at the beach. Earlier that night, they had stopped to get a room at a motel near the beach, but there was no vacancies.
And although sleeping on the beach on this specific stretch of land was prohibited, Jason and Lindsay must have decided, you know, what the heck? We're on vacation. When are we going to get the chance to do this again? We have some camping gear. Let's just park our car, go down, and sleep on the beach for the night. They made their way down to Fish Head Beach for one single night of sleep.
Jason and Lindsay left their red Ford Tempo along a pull-off on Highway 1. Together, they discovered an entries visitor log that was kept on the beach. And Jason wrote, as I stir this mac and cheese, I think to myself, what a wonderful life. That's what he wrote on the log? Yeah. So there's like a little book down on the beach that's like, hey, if you're coming here and you're visiting, write your name, write whatever message you want. They come across it and he writes this message. And
And this actually kind of breaks my heart because it appears from this message I'm getting out of it that they were just so blissfully happy. So fun, loving, playful, soon to be married. Just two kids having the time of their life. Doing a stir on the, you know, what a wonderful life I think of myself. And actually saying, as I stir this mac and cheese, I think to myself, what a wonderful life. And it just makes me sad because I'm like, we were just having fun.
- Fun, like they were just being silly and goofy together and totally in love. - So what year are we in again? - So we are in 2004. - Okay, thank you. - Yeah, so it wasn't until three days later that their bodies would be discovered by that helicopter.
Upon first glance, it appears as if someone had approached them either late Saturday night or early Sunday morning as they were sleeping in separate sleeping bags on the sand. They had both been shot in the head. Police had quickly ruled out murder-suicide. There was no sign of sexual assault on either body, and jewelry and money were left at the scene.
And their car was still pulled off where they had left it that night. So it's not robbery. Yep. It's not sexually motivated. It's not murder-suicide based off of how the shots had gone in. And it's just two shots to the head. It wasn't even, you know, torture. It wasn't murder-motivated. How long did the police say they thought they were there for before they found them? Three days. Okay. Yeah.
I mean, it is a long time on the beach. But also, you see two sleeping bags on a beach. It's not that weird to see people laying out on the beach. You know, like you're not going to go up and check on them. Hey, are you OK? OK. So this seems to police like it was a hit. Like these two kids had been specifically targeted by someone they knew and killed because the two shots to the head were.
In and out. No, nothing taken. You know, like it's just weird. Which seems so weird because they're traveling. Yeah. They're not from where they're at. They're not from Jenner, California. Who would have it out for them? Had someone from their camp that they had been teaching at followed them there? I mean, they had been honest that they were going on a road trip. Had someone from home traveled out here to hurt them? Police are literally confused. Yeah.
After investigating, police conclude that the murder weapon that was used was a .45 caliber Marlin Model 1894, which is a hunting rifle most commonly used by ranchers. And this gun is extremely unusual for the area.
police immediately began going door to door looking for anyone who might have this gun. But it's a dead end. They're like, nobody here has this gun registered to them. It does seem a little weird because it's not like they are in...
i guess in the country yeah right you're in the middle of a city northern california or the california and someone shot someone with a hunting rifle that's used by ranchers it's like a very old rifle i guess you have to have specific like bullets for it and so yeah you said 18 94. and so um cops are like nobody has this gun this isn't really weird
As it seems like no matter what police, you know, did, this case went cold and fast. They hadn't forgotten, but now this murder seems completely random and they have nothing to go on. Okay.
On March 24th, 2017. So this was in 2004 and nothing comes of it until March 24th, 2017. Jason and Lindsay's murder is still unsolved at this point. But that day, Sonoma County officers respond to a 911 call from a town named Forestville. It seems as if there had been a brotherly dispute.
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Police knew who Sean was. He was a longtime criminal in Sonoma County. He had gotten in trouble a lot. So when they showed up, they weren't too surprised to see that he had killed his brother. Are Forrest and Jenner correct? Are those close together? Yeah. So it's the same county. Both Sonoma County officers were dispatched to Jenner and then also dispatched to this brotherly dispute between the Gallen brothers, which wasn't a dispute. One murdered the other. Yeah.
So Sean Galland, the kid who murdered his brother, he was a self-identified survivalist and had been convicted of assault in 2009 for shooting an arrow at a man. So I'm listing all these details because this is just a crazy ride we're about to go on that is Sean Galland's life.
Sean had built an AR-15, which he used to kill his brother that day. He quite literally, with no motivation or trigger, walked out to his car that day, grabbed the gun that he made, an AR-15, and went upstairs into his house and shot his brother unexpectedly in the chest. So they weren't even arguing? They weren't arguing. There was no trigger. There was nothing. He just walked out, got the gun, walked back in, and shot his brother.
What the heck? His brother didn't immediately die from the first shot. And this homemade gun jammed. And while gasping for air, Sean unjammed the gun and then finished his brother off.
So he had a chance to stop and call cops, but he didn't. He just unjammed the gun while his brother was suffering and shot him again. So confused why he would just grab his gun and shoot his brother. Right. Makes no sense. So when police interview Sean about his brother's murder, he begins talking. He says that his brother held a grudge against him from the time they were a childhood because one time Sean punched him.
And that's why he shot him that day. Literally no reason at all. Like just completely dumb. Yeah. And although we don't know exactly what was said in this interrogation between police and Sean, police begin suspecting Sean for the unsolved double homicide in Jenner 13 years earlier.
How I'm wondering what made them put out of 13 years later, two and two together. So I guess he confessed to a dumb, a double homicide. He was like, Oh, I did a double, a double homicide. And they were like, well, maybe it's these Jenner murders, but Sean wasn't being like the most cooperative. So by 2018, they do end up charging Sean gallon with the murder of his brother and
the murders of Lindsay Cutshall and Jason Allen, and the attempted murder via a homemade package bombing meant for a man from a bar that Sean had gotten in a fight with in Monte Rio just two months before the Beach murders.
So they convict him of the murder of his brother, the murder of our two victims on the beach. And then also with this bomb. Attempted murder. Yes. He made a homemade bomb, put it at this dude's house. And he said, oh, I picked this dude because we got in a bar fight once and we forgave each other, but I just never really let it go. He's insane. Insane. But this guy's wife went out to grab the package, not him.
And so she was maimed in the accident. So she wasn't killed, but he like severely wounded and disfigured this woman. And it wasn't even meant for her. It was meant for her husband. But like... What in the world? And all this just randomly comes out. Wait, I'm confused. So obviously they didn't find the bomb maker from when the wife got hurt. They never knew who it was? It was unsolved. Yeah. Wow. They only know that this guy, Sean, had kind of been a criminal for just...
for poaching and other crimes like that. And also for attempting to shoot that guy with an arrow that one time, but not making bombs. And then once they arrested him for his brother's murder, they find out, okay, we're charging him with the double homicide. We're also charging him with this bomb. That was like, it's insane. I wonder why he confessed all this, right? Yeah.
Sean pleads guilty to the three murders and was convicted by a judge to three consecutive life terms. So he doesn't go to trial because he pleads guilty. And the judge said, you know, there's no question that Sean should spend the rest of his life in prison. And so he gets three life sentences. He's like, the judge is like, obviously you're a danger to society. You haven't even been provoked and you've killed people.
So Sean's defense attorney told the court that in 2001, Sean had overdosed on LSD and was never the same person after that. They claim he had mental health issues. And although this is completely unsatisfying, they say there is actually no motive to the killings other than unhappiness in his own life and being tortured by voices and demons.
Interesting. So that's why they're saying he killed those two people in Jenner. Yes. It's because, you know, they didn't actually do anything. There was no reason they hadn't bumped into each other. There was no like road rage situation. He just felt like killing people. Yeah. Because he had demons, which I mean, I think he probably did have demons, but we all have demons, right? Like we're not killing people. It comes out that a family friend had actually gone to police
about her suspicions of Sean in this double homicide murder before he killed his brother. It's that time of the year. Your vacation is coming up. You can already hear the beach waves, feel the warm breeze, relax, and think about...
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Bad like bad. I feel like whenever they start digging further all the stuff comes out on this round the record Yeah, like oh, yeah, I came and said they she actually thought he was the guy and he actually was been killing animals for fun for the X amount of years Which is like a telltale sign right and not I mean they're not just hunting. I mean he's been oh, yeah, like illegally torturing killing animals not just hunting animals and
So back in 2004, when these murders happened, weeks after the murder happened, Sean had actually gone to jail for unrelated charges. So when they're like doing this investigation, he was already in jail for poaching charges, not for the murder. And so when this girl comes in to say, hey, I think that it's him. She said, hey, Sean, I'm coming in to tell you this because Sean asked his dad to get rid of his guns after this double homicide and before he went to jail.
So she told people that in 2004? She told police this. In 2004? Yeah, she came in and said, hey, this guy kills animals for fun. I know him. And days after this murder, his dad got rid of all of his guns when you guys were going around checking people's guns. Oh, but nothing ever came of it. Nothing ever came of it, even though she said this in 2004.
Sean has two children and the mother of his second child had actually threatened via Facebook message to turn him in and collect the $50,000 reward that was set out there for Jason and Lindsay's murderer. So it kind of seems like a lot of people in his life knew that he did this, knew that he did these murders.
But nothing had really been done about it. That's so crazy. So detectives had searched his property back in August of 2004 in hopes of finding evidence because of his criminal record, they did look into him for the murders, but for no reason. There was no evidence that led them to him. And they were in hopes of finding that evidence. They searched his property, but because his dad had gotten rid of the guns, they didn't find any guns. There was no evidence.
Sean had actually been a suspect early on because a week after the murders, he was found wearing a camouflage jumpsuit with a loaded gun in his pocket walking around the beaches. In California. In California, a week after these two were murdered. And that's why they like kind of initially, once they already knew who he was, they were like, okay, we're going to look into this guy. When he was released from jail during the investigation for the poaching charges, he shaved his beard off and dyed his hair.
So he also changed the way he looked.
Like everything was pointing to him. According to the Press Democrat, two doctors evaluated Sean after his 2017 arrest for the suspicion of killing his brother and all of these other things. And they described him as having schizotypal personality disorder, which often develops in early adulthood and involves antisocial behavior, paranoid thinking, and occasional psychosis.
A psychologist who assessed Sean in 2011 when he had applied for disability benefits reported him as having loose associations and bizarre thinking and that his reality was really off, noting it would be difficult for this guy to keep a job, so he should get the benefits or whatever. It's noted that a social worker had actually tried to enter Sean's home in 2004 on suspicion that Sean would hurt his brother.
So like really people had been called in and Sean's mom, Mrs. Gallen, wouldn't let the social workers in. And then Sean's dad, who hid his guns, ended up taking his own life after lying to police about where he put Sean's guns after the murders.
So he confesses and he's like, oh, my dad hit him. In 2018. Yes. They go to his dad. They're like, hey, where'd you hide the guns? And he's like, oh, I don't know where I hid them. And then he committed suicide. In 2018, correct? Yes. Yes.
So Sean repeatedly blamed his victims for his murders, stating that if they hadn't done this or they hadn't have done that, he wouldn't have done this. So his defense attorney's like, oh, he just had demons. That's why he killed them. But when they asked Sean, Sean said, no, it was illegal to sleep on the beach. So I killed them. If they wouldn't have been illegally sleeping on the beach, they wouldn't have died.
What in the world? That's so messed up. So that night, Sean noticed the couple making their way down to the beach earlier. He returned later that night, already deciding earlier that he was going to kill them. So he watched them walk down to the beach, get ready to camp out, and he's like, I'm going to kill them. He scaled a 200-foot cliff in the dark, which...
with a small flashlight, found where the couple ended up being asleep, and then walked back up to his car and grabbed his rifle. So he hikes down, finds where they had ended up sleeping, goes back up, hikes back up to get his rifle, scales the cliff again, comes back down, and walks over and kills them. He had actually sawed about a foot off of the barrel on his gun to easily conceal the weapon. Okay.
And according to Matthias Gaffney with the San Francisco Chronicle, Sean himself said, I saw two people asleep in sleeping bags just laying there asleep. I just made myself do it. Like, I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. He said a voice told him that he'd regret his action, but he went ahead. He shot Jason first from about seven feet away.
He said the girl then sat up, looked at her boyfriend, and by that time I had already cocked and shot her behind the ear.
As the audio played to the crowded courtroom during this, Lindsay's mother sobbed in the front row as her husband rubbed her back. They had never heard these details of the murder. They didn't know that Lindsay had sat up at the sound of the gunshot to Jason and looked at Jason and then got shot as well. It's just devastating. This is horrible. Yeah. So Lindsay's father says, I'm a man with a broken heart and I always will be and I'm okay with that.
Lindsay's worth it. This man is not going to have any power in my life. This man doesn't deserve to have any control over me. And he doesn't. And so Emily Matthew from Ohio, the girl who suggested this case into us, she said that Lindsay was from my hometown and her father was a well-known and loved pastor in the community. It rocked the world of our small town and left so many questions. The parents of the victims handled this trial with such grace. So...
What was the conviction? Three life sentences, remember? So that was the actual conviction. Like he went to court, but he didn't go to trial because he pled guilty. But there's also like you have to get witness statements. And, you know, Lindsay and Jason's family had to get up and talk about them before the judge would sentence him. And he did sentence him to three life sentences. Well, it's interesting that he said a voice told me that I would regret it.
And he still did it. So obviously he was aware that, hey, killing someone is not a good thing to do. And I think obviously, you know, they even like professional doctors diagnosed him saying that he has some mental illness. Yeah. He has psychotic episodes. He has all of this stuff.
But it's just sad that like nothing was done despite all of the warning signs. Yeah. Like there was so much warning signs before he had to go and kill all these people. That's horrible. So the hearing ended with Lindsay's mother asking Sean if he had a Bible. So this whole hearing ends. She looks over and says, do you have a Bible to this guy who killed her daughter? And he said, yes. And she replied, please read it.
And then that's how it ended. Dang. Yeah, but that is the story of Lindsay and Jason Allen, the beach murders. Dang, that one's crazy. I think because it was also so just...
I guess this is what happened and they found the person. And it's just, it would have probably been cold forever had he not actually come in and been like, oh, I did a double homicide. You know what I mean? And I think having Emily Matthew, our listener's opinion and just first person account of this murder is,
Kind of just makes it crazy. Like she said, it just impacted our small town. And her parents handled this with such grace. And I just kind of think, you know, these stories are real. These people are real. Jason and Lindsay, this was tragic what happened. They were just starting their life. This is just a horrible situation. So keep their family in your prayers. Keep these people in your thoughts. Just out of nowhere. They literally were killed. No reason, which is just the worst thing.
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