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I don't know if they have... What was Mia's thing? Fox Force 5. Fox Force 5. I don't see that in her. I do see if. Discover new movies every week on Paramount+. All right, so we're going to go into rewatchable scenes and we're going to do the rest of the categories. We're going to try to keep this less than three hours. I have a new record. This is the most amount of rewatchable scenes I've had for a movie that we've ever done. In fact, I think I have pretty much the entire movie except for about 20 minutes. So I was going to apologize for...
making you do every scene but i think that's what's gonna happen but you think we should do that here as well well not quite not quite i got it down to eight i think eight great yeah well i wanted to shout out at the top the end of the opening scene the beginning of the robbery into the opening credits i just really like how that goes the man a plumber yeah i love you honey bunny
Everybody be cool, this is a robbery! Any of you fucking pricks move! And I'll execute every motherfucking last one of you!
And then that music kicks in. Two songs in the opening credits, which that might have invented. I don't know if any movie had ever done that before. Well, the concept of the radio had been in Reservoir Dogs, but I think switching the songs in the middle because you hear him change the dial. Good graphics too. Like opening credits that could come out now.
And not be any different. Anyway. Can I just say about those graphics for people in my generation, it has not aged well because...
The graphics are the Stranger Things font, so I think kids are going to be like, that's Stranger Things. It's also the font for Cabaret, I think. It's like a font font. And also that first song, unfortunately, is a massive sample in a super popular Black Eyed Peas song called Pump It. And so I cannot help but sing Pump It to myself as I listen to that song during the beginning of Pulp Fiction. Oh, the Dick Dale song. Yes. Yeah, Miserly. Yeah. Yeah. That's...
One more reason your generation sucks. That and your lack of appreciation for Sean Young's performance in No Way Out. That's our opening list. All right. The first truly rewatchable scene, Vincent and Jules heading to Marvin's.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in Paris? They don't call it a quarter pounder with cheese? I mean, they got the metric system. They wouldn't know what the fuck a quarter pounder is. What do they call it? They call it a royale with cheese. Royale with cheese. That's right. What do they call a Big Mac? Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac. Le Big Mac. What do they call a Wap? I don't know. I didn't go on a Burger King video.
You know what they put on french fries in Holland instead of ketchup? What? Mayonnaise. I seen him do it, man. They fucking drown him in his shit. I would argue this is the most ripped off four and a half minutes of screenwriting in the past 30 years. Yeah. I don't even know who is in the finals against us. When you're going to parody this movie, this is the scene that was parodied. Yeah. Yeah. But also the scene that I think the most people probably were like, man, if I can just get this scene and have it have the same feel of
Vincent telling Jules about what life was like in Amsterdam. It's such a great write what you know scene though because we know that Quentin was literally in Amsterdam when he was writing it. Yeah. So he's just communicating something that was going on in his life through these characters. It's also a thing that I've never quite sorted out in this movie is the Europe-America conversation that's happening between all these characters. Like Tim Roth's character in the first scene is doing kind of like an anti-foreigner screed but he's British in America. Yeah.
Obviously, like, Butch is with the taxi driver and Fabian. You know, they're always talking about the differences between Europe when Mia's like, I go to Amsterdam to chill out for like once a year. I'm like, do you? Like, it's a very interesting, like, the relationship with Europe and probably European art movies and being cool is very pronounced. Well, we have three different things going on. One is the Amsterdam recap. Mm-hmm.
Oh man, I'm going, I'm fucking going. Uh, the little differences. Then we get into the Mia part talking about the pilot, the foot massage, Tony Rocky horror. What happened with Tony Rocky horror and the concept of a foot massage was a foot massage. A foot massage is nothing. I get my mother foot massage. It's laying your hands in a familiar way on my cell. This is new way.
I mean, is it as bad as eating her pussy out? No. It's the same fucking ballpark. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop right there. Eating a bitch out and giving the bitch a foot massage ain't even the same fucking thing. It's not. It's the same ballpark. Ain't no fucking ballpark, neither. Now, look, maybe your method of massage differs from mine, but, you know, touching his wife's feet and sticking your tongue in the holiest of holies ain't the same fucking ballpark. It ain't the same league. It ain't even the same fucking sport. Look, foot massages don't mean shit. Have you ever given a foot massage?
Don't be telling me about foot massages. I'm the foot fucking master. You giving a lot of them? Shit, yeah. Got my technique down and everything. I don't be tickling or nothing. Would you give a guy a foot massage? Fuck you. You give him a lot? Fuck you. You know, I'm kind of tired. I could use a foot massage myself. Yo, yo, yo, man, you best back off. I'm getting a little pissed here.
the entire walk and talk sequence into the apartment or into the apartment building and then walking up the elevator, walking through the hallways. And we also don't know what they're doing. We know they have guns, but we don't understand why these guys are so casually talking about all this. And they keep drawing you into the story, drawing you in, and they're having this weird random conversation about foot massages. And then the best is when Jules is like, let's get into character. Yeah. As they're about to go to the door, yeah. So you have that side and then the foot massage being the third piece of it and them arguing about...
Vincent basically ropes him in being like, oh, you're really good at foot massages. Give me one. I'm a little tired. I'm the foot fucking master. Yeah. We get foot fucking master. We get sticking your tongue in the holiest of holies. There's just so much good stuff. Ain't no fucking ballpark. It's not the same sport. And then we get Travolta using fucking within four words of each other in a sentence. And Antoine fucking should have fucking known better. He double fuckens it. Um,
And basically we set up the premise that Vincent is basically going to Ryan O'Neill, Mia Wallace, because Lee Majors is going out of town. Yeah. Oh, my favorite Hollywood stories. Right. Right. We can you can you take my wife out? I'm going to be out of town filming a movie. And I was like, I sure can. I could take Farrah Fawcett out. Do we do a lot of take it, take my wife out on the town while I'm out of town anymore? Yeah.
I just think it's a weird request. I wouldn't quite know what to do with it. I think it's okay for my wife to stay home. Yeah. Just one of my takes.
In fact, I encourage it at all times. Yeah. I think it's okay. It's okay for my wife to be Amish when I'm not here. Yes. It's a weird one. Go out with this super hot hitman. Where'd you stand on the foot massage argument, CR? What part of it? Is it? I think it's very intimate. Is it a sexual proxy act? I would not give my mom a foot massage. Like, that's like a, I think it is a very intimate thing. Yeah.
Sean? Don't massage my wife's foot unless you're a professional masseuse is one of my takes. Yeah. I think we're all lined. Well, legendary scene and that leads right to scene number three, Vincent and Jules in Marvin's apartment. Too early to give the Rick Dalton award for the best fucking act I've ever seen in my life. I'm in tears when I watch this scene. Looks like me and Vincent caught you boys at breakfast. Sorry about that. What you having? Hamburgers. Hamburgers!
The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast. What kind of hamburgers? Cheeseburgers. No, no, no, no, no. Where'd you get them? McDonald's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box? Where? Big Kahuna Burger. Big Kahuna Burger? That's that Hawaiian burger joint. I hear they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself. How are they? They're good. You mind if I try one of yours? This is yours here, right? This is a tasty burger. Vincent, you ever had a Big Kahuna Burger?
Want a bite? They're real tasty. An all-time performance. I hear they got some tasty burgers!
You mind if I have some of your tasty beverage? My underrated favorite part of this scene, first of all, is Frank Whaley is awesome as Brett. Great Frank Whaley run here. And I love... I think I have said, check out the big brains on Brett more in my life than any other movie line, maybe. Like, every time somebody says something intelligent, I'm like, check out the big brains on Brett.
Big brains on bread. But my favorite part of this is actually Samuel Jackson's interactions with Burr Steers on the couch. Yeah. He's like, keep chilling. Yeah. Flock of seagulls. Yeah. Well, and then the more you watch this, you notice some of the stuff Travolta's doing in the deep background. He's just fucking still half stone from the night before. Kind of wandering around the kitchen. He's smoking a cigarette at one point. This is just...
We're not even, by the time this is over, we're not even 10 minutes into the movie, right? Like 10, 11. And Sam is just throwing 145 miles an hour. It's every line that he says is memorable and exciting and something I repeat in my life. Like, this is a tasty burger. Like, I can't get that out of my head. I had it in my head for 30 years. Even just down to like him being happy that it's Sprite.
He's like, what is this? He's like, Sprite. He's like, good. That's that Hawaiian joy. Which person in the Frank Whaley crew could you have reasonably acted as in the movie if you were pulled in? Definitely a flock of seagulls. You wouldn't have been Arquette in the bathroom later? With the hand cannon. With the hand cannon, yeah. What are the odds that two different groups of people are eating...
Or I guess that one group of dudes are eating burgers at 7.45 a.m. It's one of the great unanswered questions in American cinema history. Craig, you're stepping on nitpicks. Jesus. Okay. All right. It's earlier than that. It's like 7.22 a.m. They wouldn't be awake. And they've already gotten the burgers. Yeah. I mean, we can do this now. I just thought maybe it was an all-nighter.
And that was the one place that's open. Brett doesn't seem like he's been up all night partying, but they have like a, we've been sitting here all night. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast. I feel like there should have been some video games there. And then that leads to the, we get the briefcase in here. We get the, pow. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration? We get the, what does Marcellus Wallace look like?
And then you read the Bible, Brett, and he does the whole thing. I don't even know what clip we'll play when we're actually running this. But that speech is not a short speech. No. Like, Sam's basically doing Othello on Broadway for five minutes. He's just doing boom, boom, boom. I wonder, like, how many takes this took. How hard was this scene to do? Did it just, like, flow out easily? Like, I don't know. I would watch a documentary about this scene. Everything you read is that
Tarantino's real good with actors and that they know exactly what they're supposed to be doing when they get ready to start shooting. Because there was one tidbit from the...
Half-assed internet research about burst steers that he kept fucking up the scene because when noises would happen, he would jostle. But when he would hear them shoot Brett, he would jump. So they had to redo it a couple times and they were like, what the fuck is this guy? And then he went on to become, he did, he directed Igby Goes Down and he did some stuff. Just to what Sean was saying in part one about
Tarantino understanding movie star persona, movie personas, the way he shoots Jackson kind of getting low, making him seem huge. Yeah.
And the close, close, close-ups are like movie star close-ups. Like, you start this movie and you're like, Samuel Jackson is the movie star in this movie. It's so perfect. There's a moment he turns his head from left to right and the camera follows him as he's turning his head and you're like, oh, that is, that's the McQueen thing. That's the Marilyn Monroe thing. Because in the first few minutes, you're like, oh, it's Travolta. Travolta's going to run this. Travolta's the alpha guy. Like, I'm watching Travolta and then he is a background player in this scene. They speak English in what? No!
English, motherfucker! Do you speak it? He's the best. I love George. The burger's going to come up later in another category, but it really does look delicious. It's fucking, yeah. The food in this movie is like uniformly fantastic looking. Next scene, Marcellus lectures Butch. I just had to put it in because it's an unbelievable, your prime is over. You got to realize that speech. Night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride.
Pride only hurts. It never helps. You fight through that shit. 'Cause a year from now, when you're kicking it in the Caribbean, you're gonna say to yourself, "Marcellus Wallace was right." I got no problem with that, Mr. Wallace. In the fifth, your ass goes down.
And it's the same speech that Pacino gives DiCaprio at Russo and Frank in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It's so awesome to see the motifs echo across his movies. I'm actually surprised nobody's edited the Marcellus speech to Butch and just put Biden's face on Bruce Willis. It's a hard motherfucking fact of life, but that's a fact of life your asses are going to get realistic about. Yeah.
Fuck pride. If you mean it gets better with age, it don't. It also gets the... First of all, we never see Marcellus, which is a really good Tarantino trick because he does it with me as well. So in your logic, when Butch goes up and Vincent's at the bar, would it be like Vincent's Nancy Pelosi? And be like, what's up, Palooka? Yeah.
I think you heard me fine, punchy. That seems great. I also think that's why, A, he keyed the car. Do we think that's why Butch threw the fight? Because he was offended by Marcellus' hitman? I think Tarantino was asked about that, and he says that he is processing in real time and making that decision after that confrontation. What do you think of the choice not to show Marcellus from the front?
During this monologue that's like two minutes. I think he's just... It's the same thing with not showing Mia until the car. I think he's just really good at character reveals. I think he's really good at building up anticipation...
creating mystery with just obscuring things. And you get this iconic image of the back of his head with the band-aid on his neck and he looks like the kingpin from the Spider-Man comics. And it's myth-making, right? It's like Marcellus is this mythical crime lord and we're going to have to wait a long time to see his face.
I just want to say to Paul George, this provision is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers. Motherfuckers who thought their ass would age like wine. The four-year max deal into your late 30s to try to win a title. You mean it turns to vinegar? It does. You mean it gets better with age? It don't. So it's, this is Biden and Paul George are now the same. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's where I went. Scene five.
Not underrated because it's perfectly rated. Vincent goes to buy heroin. We have Rosanna Arquette with 18 piercings, including one in her tongue that's a fellatio aid. Yeah. We have Panda, Baja, and Choco. Yeah. This is Panda from Mexico. Very good stuff. And that's Bava. Different, but equally good. And that is Choco from the Harz Mountains of Germany. Now, the first two are the same. 300 a gram. Those are friend prices. Yes.
But this one is a little more expensive. This is 500 a gram. But when you shoot it, you will know where that extra money went. Now, there's nothing wrong with these. This is real, real, real good shit. But this one is a fucking madman. From the Harz Mountains of Germany. 300 for the first two, 500. The other two are good. Third one, though. It's a fucking madman.
And Lance will take the Pepsi challenge against that Amsterdam shit. Coke is dead. Heroin's coming back. Dead is fucking dead. I'm out of balloons. My son pointed this out when we were watching it. He liked how...
And you don't notice it unless you're looking for it, but you can see Stoltz the whole time in the mirror on the right. But it's filmed from, you hear his voice and you see Vincent, but kind of on the side. It's easier to see in a movie theater than it is on a TV. Reflections and how we see ourselves is a big thing in the movie. You've got later on Uma Thurman looking into the mirror after she does the coke. You've got Fabienne being reflected in the television. Travolta in the bathroom. Travolta in the bathroom. This is like a thing that he does over and over again.
This also has the, which one's Jodi's that the girl with all the shit on her face, which is the single funniest line in the movie. So amazing. Hey, what do you think about Trudy? She ain't got a boyfriend. You want to hang out, get high? Which one is Trudy? The one with all the shit in her face? No, that's Jodi. That's my wife. All right, man. Thank you. No, I can't. I got to be someplace. All right, no problemo.
So good. 30 years of that line and it's still 100% funny. And then when you buy heroin, C.R., what did it get right? What did it get wrong?
This is Panda. Yeah, I think it underrates Choco. If somebody says they're out of balloons, and you're like, wait a second, what the fuck? Baggies? I don't know. Lance really underrated Choco. Stoltz is out of this world. He's so good. Perfect. It's the bathrobe and the Birkenstocks. His hair, the length of his hair. It does really capture...
the bullshit conversation you have with somebody while you're buying drugs where you're like, we know why I'm here. We know what I'm going to do as soon as this is over. Yeah. They obviously have like a friendship quote unquote so he gets high in his room but it's very funny to watch like it just sort of be like
When he's like, you want to hang out? He's like, no, I don't. Well, when Stoltz, when Vincent is telling him about his car being keyed and everything Stoltz says, he's like, yeah, man. Yeah, totally. So you can't do it. You know, he's just mimicking, just kind of moving his way through the conversation as quickly as possible. It's a funny little salesman thing where he's just like, I hope I still have some when you come back. The Stoltz-essence, I guess we could have put in part one. Yeah. Because that's our movie kicking and screaming the year before.
And it just seemed, and he's in singles as the mime, and it just seems like every director loved Eric Stoltz. What was it about Eric Stoltz everybody loved? Such an easygoing charmer, you know? Just seems comfortable in every kind of movie. So they met at Sundance 91, I guess. He's in Killing Zoe, right? No, he was in The Water Dance that year. Oh, okay. And he's in The Water Dance, met Tarantino after Reservoir Dogs. Pretty good movie. Good movie, yeah. Totally forgotten movie. Yeah.
and approached him at a party. It was just like, Reservoir Dogs is my favorite movie I saw at the festival. I'm down for whatever you want to do. And so he's Lance. Well, they were in Sleep With Me, Killing Zoe. Tarantino was involved in that a little bit too. He produced that, which was written by, and directed by Roger Avery. Yeah. The kicking and screaming was 95. Like, Stoltz's IMDb just from...
95 to going backwards to 93 he's in like 12 things including some TV shows but a lot of like basically bit cameo parts yeah because Back to the Future was that was going to be the one and then they knocked him out for Michael J. Fox yeah to me he was like the kid from Mask and Some Kind of Wonderful yeah and then he has this 90s indie kind of a heartthrob kind of a day player like somewhere in the middle of those two things oh it's good to see him yeah totally yeah
Scene six, the diner date. Unless you want to put Vincent going to her house and the... There's great stuff in there where he's reacting to the intercom. I'm just trying to move it along. I have Vincent picks up Mia at her home as part of it. Yeah, I guess the whole thing could be there. But they go to Jackrabbit Slim's and I love every single thing about Jackrabbit Slim's.
What an amazing world. They built it from scratch. I think it was, what was it, 20% of the budget? 15% of the budget? Just building this restaurant? No, they said, so Sandy and David Wasco, production designer, set decorator, I think they said $15,000. They did the whole restaurant. That was what I read in a book. Oh, I thought they...
One of the things I read was that this was the big expense building this restaurant because it doesn't exist. It's modeled after a couple of places that were around in L.A. at the time. Was it a Disneyland restaurant? Did they try? No, Disney wanted to do Jackrabbit Slims in one of the parks. Oh, they said no. Yeah, but there was a 50s style restaurant in L.A. The name escapes me right now.
that was very similar to this where it had the cars cut in half as the seats and it had the 50s movie posters on the wall and it had people dressed up. Seems like a bad business plan to buy these old expensive cars and just chop them in half and turn them into diner tables. Maybe that's why we don't have a lot of these. Don't you want to eat there right now though? I mean, I want to go right now.
I'll tell you this. If I went and they were like, I'm sorry, we don't have the automobile table, but we have this other. I'm like, no, you put me in the fucking automobile table. I'm waiting for Jim Mansfield. You know, I think that part of the reason that the food seems so good in this movie and the food seems so good at Jackrabbit Slims when they try the milkshake is because people are saying this food is so good. Yeah. You know, like when he bites the burger. A collusion. Buddy Holly, Marilyn Monroe. Buscemi is Buddy Holly. Yeah. It's kind of snuck in. Fox Force 5, she lays out.
the five characters. There's a blonde leader, a black demolition expert, a Japanese Kung Fu expert, a French seductress, and then she's the knives jokes girl raised as a circus performer. Mm-hmm.
I don't know. I would have filmed the pilot in real life for this. This sounds great. He kind of makes this with Kill Bill. Yeah. And Kill Bill is like the five women who have these different personas. This is basically Charlie's Angels blown out in the mid-90s that I just am surprised Fox wasn't like... I think if he was probably making this movie now, he would have done stuff like that. Do you think he ever wrote a Fox Force 5 pilot? I was going to say, I think he probably wrote out the entire Jackrabbit Slim's menu, so yes. Mm-hmm.
Did he do that? No, but you, but like, I don't know, but like if I asked you like, what were the other things on the Jackrabbit Slim's menu? If I asked Quentin that, he'd probably be like, here, this is, this is what was on there. Bloody as hell or burnt to a crisp, you know? So, so specific. But was it Martin and Lewis or Amos and Andy? What about you Peggy Sue? I'll have the Durward Kirby burger, bloody, and $5 shake. Anything with that shake, Martin and Lewis or Amos and Andy? Martin and Lewis.
Did you just order a $5 shake? Mm-hmm. That's a shake. That's milk and ice cream. Last I heard. That's $5. You don't put bourbon in or nothing? No. Just checking. I'll be right back with your drinks. The $5 milkshake thread is phenomenal. Yeah. And then he's like, Is there a shot of bourbon in it? God damn, that's a pretty fucking good milkshake. We get the Tony Rock e-horror foot story culmination to find out what actually happened.
And then we get out of nowhere, this dance sequence. So what does he do in that Travolta's like, that's one way of putting it. Another way of putting it. Yeah. Another way of putting it. But he never makes eye contact with her when he's talking. He's really bashful. And he's really insinuating and really charming. But...
Trying to like get under her skin a little bit. He's also on heroin. And he's high and she's high. She's coked out. But she's so good at it because she's just like. That's probably the most coherent drugged up conversation anyone's had in a movie. But he's like more low toned and she's up. She's just gotten out of the bathroom and she's just done a couple of lines. And she's like, if you look at Uma in the scene, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like leaning in and like much more aggressive. They talk a lot, don't they? Yeah. Yeah.
The dance sequence is great. And also had this. Oh, Travolta. He's doing it again. Yeah. Clear out for Johnny. As soon as he gets on his toes, you're like, oh, wow, he's locked in. Never can tell. Great. Chuck Berry dropped there. Never heard that song before this movie.
Yeah. We've done a couple of dance movies, CR, recently because we did the Tango one too. Oh, yeah. These movies that just assume everybody knows how to do a dance at the highest possible level without communicating. I love watching this scene thinking about how high they are because you almost feel like the way the movie is being made has like a little bit of a stone quality. Yeah. That scene of her in the bathroom where she's doing lines and all the other women are like, I just need some hairspray or whatever. Yeah.
That's real. But when they're in the restaurant, part of the restaurant, it's like...
The surf music's playing. Everything is going whoosh. You know, it's like this dream quality. So in a weird way, I sometimes in reality wonder what it would have looked like to have watched these two people start doing the twist in the middle of the restaurant. I think there's like a reading of the movie that it's incredibly surreal. And you've got a bunch of high people. And like, is a lot of this stuff happening? Yeah. Is a reasonable question to ask. Were they really dancing this well? Yeah. And Travolta said...
that when Tarantino asked him to do this and they started mapping out the dances, that he didn't want to just do a twist. He wanted to do other stuff. So that's why he introduced like the surf wave and the Batman dance and all this other stuff because he was like, I remember the late 50s, early 60s dances. It's crazy that that looks cool. I need to underline that again.
That should have been the stupidest scene in movie history and it's amazing. Yes. I mean, there's so many things in this movie you could almost have a category of would not have worked in any other situation. Like even Sam Jackson's Jerry Crow. Like a happy accident on the set. You're just like, is that too much? And it's perfect. Like there's so many things in this movie that just are kind of little miracles.
So I'm only going to mention my son two more times in this podcast, really as the proxy of watching Pulp Fiction with somebody who hadn't seen it. So anybody I know has seen this movie and he had no idea what's happening. Dan sequence ends, they come back with the trophy, which is our next rewatchable scene. And my son is watching it through the prism of, oh my, so let me guess, he's going to have sex with her and then Marcellus is going to want to kill him. Like he's talking to me as I'm going, I'm like, just wait.
Just wait. And I think I had forgotten the swerves in this movie because we've all seen it so many times. How this is built to make you think this thing's going to happen. And then over the next 10 minutes, this is, I might be my favorite stretch of the movie. The,
Her sitting down on the couch, getting a cigarette. He's in the bathroom talking to himself. She pulls out the baggie. There's that little stealth thing of if it had been a balloon, she would have known it was heroin, but it was the baggie. So now she's tricked by it. And then all of a sudden he's in the car going 130 miles an hour. Calling Lance. And it's one of the craziest six, seven minute scenes ever. There's one thing before that.
Which is he goes to the bathroom and she puts on the Urge Overkill cover and she dances. And that's like, to me, that's definitely a great shot Gordo contender where the camera's following her dancing and singing and going behind the beam in the house and she keeps seeing her emerge from behind the beam and then finally when she settles and sits down on the couch. That part is so great. I also always loved that
she is doing this whole lip sync dance thing, but then kind of gets bored of the song in the middle of the song because that's what people high on cocaine would do. They'd be like, oh, never mind, I'm going to hear something else. So I always love that. The car crash is super funny. Him calling Stoltz and Stoltz talking to him, they'd be like, pray call her, pray call her.
Hang up. Can we just quickly... Lance is in a bathrobe sitting watching cartoons. Eating cereal. Eating fruit. Fruit with a TV tray pulled up to his recliner. His girlfriend's asleep.
And then the third girl is just in there. Yeah, she's just on the couch. Still doing drugs. Smoking bulls. But it's like, he has achieved pure and total zen where he is. Yeah. He has mastered the childless lifestyle. Yeah.
The Quiet Stone friend. So Tarantino said, like, anytime he'd ever seen, like, people doing drugs or going to somebody's house, they're doing drugs, there's always this one person. You know how they got there? Yeah. They're just kind of there. So he's like, I got to put that into a movie. Just this random third person that has no business. It's a great touch, yeah. The Travolta freaking out about me is some good Travolta.
All right, tell me what to do.
Okay, uh, you're giving her an injection of adrenaline straight to her heart, but she's got a breastplate. You gotta pierce through that. So what you gotta do is you gotta bring the needle down in a stabbing motion. I gotta stab her three times? No, you don't gotta fucking stab her three times. You just gotta stab her once, but it's gotta be hard enough to get through her breastplate into her heart, all right? And then once you do that, you press down on the plunger. Okay, then what happens? I'm kind of curious about that myself. This ain't no fucking joke, man. Am I gonna kill her? No, no, no, she's supposed to come out of it like that. It's... All right, count to three. All right, ready? One...
And then, I mean, the needle is the first time in the theater, like we talked about in part one, it's like one of the most exhilarating scenes ever. And it was fun to relive it through my son, not knowing what was going to happen. The best is when they cut to Rosanna Arquette's face and she's like, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's also in Great Shot Corridor territory for me. Those three images in a cut in a row. He gets to do his one, two, three countdown, which he loves to do. Well, just also like the mistranslation of the instructions since they don't have the black book. He's like, you have to stab her down and break the breastplate. He's like, I got to stab her three times. I'm like, no, you only got to stab her once. Do we think this would have worked?
I mean, you know, I think it's Narcan. Like the guy who they had consulting on the drug stuff said that he had been revived from an OD by getting hit with salt water. I don't... So, I mean, it happens. Then he brings her back. I'm of the opinion that if Marcellus lived his whole life, he'd never need to know about this incident. And then, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to have a heart attack and tell some joke. So, he...
He purchased a fake chest for her and decided he didn't like it. And then they reversed it. So put the needle on her chest, pulled back, and then they just flipped it to make it seem... If you actually watch it, you never actually see the needle go in the chest. It just feels like it. I also really liked the... Because in the speed at which the movie is happening, I always forget that when he gets to Stoltz's house, which is in Atwater Village, he's like...
Do you know who Marcellus Wallace is? And Stoltz is like, yeah. And he's like, this is his girlfriend. And if she fucking dies on your lawn, I'm going to have to explain to him that you didn't help me. Well, he drops her. At one point, her head really kind of hits the grass hard. Stoltz said that they were knocking Uma Thurman around like crazy. Has there ever been a better actress for...
Somebody who is definitely hot but also could look like she got hit by a tsunami or a tornado and had a heroin overdose and can look like death warmed over but still alive. It's like four different movies like that. Yeah. The look on her face on the drive back is legendary. It's kind of like invented suicide girls. It's like a style with the eyeliner and everything. Courtney Love's like, I want that. Scene eight, the watch story, Walken.
This watch was on your daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured and put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew that if the gooks ever saw the watch, it'd be confiscated, taken away. The way your dad looked at it, this watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slope's gonna put the greasy yellow hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in one place he knew he could hide something, his ass.
Five long years he wore this watch up his ass. Then he died of dysentery. He gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass. Two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.
It's crazy to go from the adrenaline shot, which is one of the most exciting movie scenes ever made, to one of the most mesmerizing monologues in movie history. Like, right back to back. It's like being on a roller coaster where you're like, you think that you've hit a wall. Yeah. And then walk and walk. It's when the movie's supposed to calm down. And you're like, this is weird. Like, okay. And you're like, this is chill. This is just going to be a flashback, I guess.
And then as it keeps going and going and going, you're like, whoa, we're going back up again. I love that the guy kept the watch in his ass for five years. And he's like, he died of dysentery. So then I took it over. It's like he died of dysentery because he had this watch in his ass for five years. It's an amazing...
unbroken performance in a movie. And obviously, Walken has some experience doing this with other monologues, with Tarantino monologues. He knows what he's doing. He might be the goat of Poppets. He's the preeminent weird monologue. Tarantino monologues. Yeah. He died. He gave me the watch. He gave me the watch. He died. He gave me the watch. He gave me the watch. I love the fact that the watch is from Knoxville and that's where Butch goes. Yes. And where Quentin lived for a stretch of his life.
Ninth scene. If you notice, I've skipped a lot of Butch stuff. We're going right to Butch going back to get his wallet. I mean, his watch. I have the same thing. The watch monologue too. Butch goes back to his apartment and kills Vincent. The toaster murder. The off-brand Pop-Tarts.
I'm not positive Butch was scared enough going back to his own apartment after he had just robbed these mobsters of all this money. But that's part of his character, right? He's just like, all right, fuck it. I kind of disagree because the thing I was going to say is that that whole scene, every other director is like, Butch pulls up to his apartment and goes in. And he does that one-er shot of him climbing over all those quintessential North Hollywood backyard alleyways. Yeah.
And it's real time. It's not movie time. Yeah. So to me, as a viewer, you're like, I'm so fucking nervous. Yeah. Because. Yeah, you're right. You know, it's like that buildup is so. Well, you get that moment of relief where he walks in and he's like, no one's here. No one cares. No one's following me. I'm going to put a Pop-Tart in. And then the realization. Not positive. He should have put the Pop-Tart in. Might have just grabbed the watch. It was a bold choice.
Hard to overstate the shock value of Travolta just getting gunned down halfway through the movie. Stunning. There are a lot of moments in this movie that remind me of Psycho, but it is very similar to Janet Leigh getting killed in Psycho. Willis is really good in this whole stretch. So to your karma point from earlier in this conversation, do you feel like if Vincent isn't a dick to Butch at the bar, Butch doesn't kill him?
I think he dies either way. Or is it just like survival of the fittest at that point? Yeah, it's a good question. Should have been an unanswerable for sure. I think he kills him no matter what because he just needs to survive. Yeah, because the toaster thing. He just needs to survive. Leads to seeing Marcellus crossing the street, which is a great shot. Car crash. We get Kathy Griffin. We had a big chase. I'm going to end the scene there so we can go to scene 10. Bring out the gimp. Gimp's sleeping. I guess you're going to have to go wake him up then.
This is when the fucking, the ceiling comes off this movie once and for all. What did Ben say? Speechless. Didn't understand what, he kept going, what? What's happening? Like he just couldn't, all of a sudden these guys have red balls in their mouth. Yeah. It's not just that he's inspired by Deliverance, it's that he has teleported a pawn shop
in Tennessee from 1974 into the middle of Hollywood. Though, I will say there are parts of North Hollywood and Burbank that are pretty weird that way. Oh yeah? Tell us more. No. If you go on the other... Some red ball parts? There's a lot of gun stores in Burbank. It gets pretty choppy. Do you go to the gun store before you buy heroin or after? What's the sequencing? Do we need a gun store corner on every Rewatchables episode from you? What do you think the gun store in this town looks like? This is a good pivot for me. Junkie Chris.
The gimp coming out of the trunk has to be a top five what the fuck is happening moment in any movie. So psychologize. Because you're just watching him unlock and you're just like, what's this guy doing back there? And then all of a sudden this guy comes out with a leather mask on. Do you think that this is in the movie because he's trying to taunt or provoke a certain stripe of viewer? Yes.
Like that's, that's the intention of this. I think he's just trying to get as weird as possible in the basement. He's like, what are the weirdest things that could happen in a pawn shop basement? Well, what if there's a gimp in the trunk? Yeah.
But 98% of the people who see this movie the first time have no idea what's going on. They're like, I don't know, men being locked in a trunk dressed in all leather? Like, what is that? Well, there's a famous sequence, like party sequence in Wolf of Wall Street where like when you watch the movie, to me, it's always like this is hell. Like in Martin Scorsese's mind, this party sequence of like Wall Street traitors like dancing with strippers in 1987. He's like, this is the worst possible thing that could ever happen in society. Yeah.
To me, this is almost like, not just Bruce Willis, but like a black man, like a powerful black man's idea of hell is being locked in a basement and raped by hillbillies. And so like, again, the movie has this kind of surreal feeling where you're like, is this really happening? Like, this is so strange and so unlike anything we've ever seen and yet feels natural to the story at the same time. How do you feel about the gimp laughing at Butch? You know what the gimp...
He kind of like... It's like a guy who's so close to the end zone. And then he has to do the Dion Sanders taunting. You know, if he had just chilled out. Then they go into the back.
Then they also, it's funny to listen to if you've seen this movie a hundred times, but the sounds of the two guys with Marcellus where it's like, oh, yeah! Yeah! Woo! Yeah! Oh-ho!
It's like I just imagined the recording session of the two guys. Can you give me like two more uh-huhs and yeah. Yeah, I got it. Is that what you do when you and a friend are cheering on? So Butch breaks out.
And now we have the moral dilemma. That's what we do when we watch Paul George score 12 points. Four for 17. Two for nine on a Thursday night. Oh, yeah! Oh, oh, oh, yeah! And we got the gimp. We're like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. The gimp. Who's the gimp? Is that Daryl? Uh,
Going from machete to bat to chainsaw to samurai sword once he realizes. Sean's out, by the way. If we're in the butch spot there, Sean's gone. Well, is it you or is it Chris? It's your enemy. It's whoever your enemy is. Oh, good point. Sean's out. Sean's like, I gotta go. The Mets are on in an hour. It's some random guy who tweeted at you once. Some guy did a babble on Twitter. Yeah.
You got this wrong about twisters. I definitely will not save that person. CR goes back. I think CR feels bad. For as awesome as, like, this... I...
I probably would go back. The, uh, yeah. See, Sierra goes back. I'm gone. Of course. I'm out. I got to get a bandaid for my nose. I'm taking that. You never would have gone back to Fabian. You would have been like, Hey, you talked to the cab driver. You're like, why don't we pick up Scotty's money and go to Knoxville? She was like, I lost the watch. I'm like, I'm fucking out. This is it for us. I'm done. Uh,
You had one job. When Butch is walking out of the pawn shop and stops and starts evaluating the various weapons...
Yeah. Eventually getting to the samurai sword that activated much of the 16 year old men in the movie theater. Really? This is literally my dream. It's very video game. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny you mentioned that because when he got the sword, my son was like, Oh, yeah. Uh,
When he goes back down, Maynard's face is just perfect. That shot is unreal. It's a great shot Gordo candidate. Maynard's like, yeah. The camera's right in Maynard's face. Yeah.
Step aside, butch. It's very similar to what you said about not seeing the needle go into the heart. Same thing here where there's so much violence in this movie, but you don't see a lot of the violence. He doesn't really, and he's obviously been criticized for decades about the gratuitous nature of the violence in movies, but he's actually very strategic about what he shows and doesn't show. Nah, man, I'm pretty fucking far from okay. Pair of pliers and a blowtorch. Get medieval.
Does Zed die from the gunshot, which I think is right in his balls? I think he is. You risk him bleeding out. Bleeds out in probably two minutes, right? Gotta get those guys with the blowtorch over fast. I love the like, however the line goes, where it's like, no, I mean like, what next for you and me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what now? No, like for us. Let me tell you what now.
I'm gonna call a couple of hard pipe-hitting niggas to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. You hear me talking, hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your ass. I'm at one now between me and you.
Getting medieval on I'm going to get medieval on our on your ass was another one like like Marcellus was so cool in this movie and I think a lot of lines anecdotally just got pulled into real life. I wrote for the can you dig it. I'm not done with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your ass because I'm gonna get medieval on your ass was super popular. Yeah. And and and parodied and talked about and now I feel like it's kind of gone. Like I feel like that is has not ready to come back and it's a it's just a great line. Yeah.
There is no me and you, not no more. And Butch leaves. I also love his LA privileges have been revoked. Yeah. Fair. Yeah. Good deal. Maybe could have been a little more appreciative of the guy who saved them from. Butch could have been like, I have Clippers season tickets. Can I come back to see Corey Maggette? Well.
We have a special new category for this spot. We're still going with the watchable scenes. The My Sharona and the Gimple Word for Best Inadvertent Reconsideration by a Director. It goes to Quentin Tarantino, who was going to use My Sharona for the sodomy scene from The Kinks. Really? From The Knack. And...
He thought it would be really funny. He said, quote, it has a really good sodomy beat to it. I thought, oh God, this is just too funny not to use. Name me another director who would have said that. I wonder what else has a sodomy beat. We should do the sodomy beat pyramid right now. Or maybe next one. Reality Bites also wanted it for the convenience store scene. And the licensing people basically chose Reality Bites over the scene where they're like, hey, we have this movie. There's...
a gang rape in the basement of, of men. And can we use your song? And they were like, no, thank you. And now Tarantino says he's glad they didn't. Yeah. They said, no, he said it would have been too cutely comic. Um, so he picked Comanche by the surf band, the rebels, uh, another sidebar because we have so many probably unanswerable questions for this movie, probably unanswerable questions about the gimp. Question number one, what did the gift do all day? Um,
Yeah, I have. Is this more of a side hustle or a full-time situation? So you think this is an elective by the GIMP? I think he's enjoying himself. You don't think he is an imprisoned man? No. I think he's enjoying himself.
I think this is his pastime at minimum. Maybe it's his job. So like Tuesdays from 10 to 5? Okay. It's like, what are you doing today, Bob? I go to the pawn shop on Tuesdays. I had a follow-up question related to this. Does he have a W-2 for that? Does Zed offer a benefits package? That was my second question. Full-time job or part-time job? Well, Zed is an officer of the law, right? Sure. So he knows a little bit about getting good bennies. Or is he a mall security guy? I never got that straight. Did the GIMP get benefits? Yeah. I literally wrote the same thing. We're on the same page. Okay.
Was he an actual gimp? Did he have a disability? So... Why did they call him the gimp? I think the gimp is because of, like, the outfit. I think also the nature of his work. I think you're thinking limp, right? No, you're thinking, like, gimpy. Like, he's got some sort of gimpy thing. Yeah. Well, let's do BDSM Corner now. Let's see our... Get in there, Chris.
Bring it down for us. When I like, I fire up a spoonful of Choco. I get the gim out of my mouth. When the panda hits. You really see where that extra $200 goes. So, I don't know if this is correct, but I just Googled gimp suit and I'm reading about it. It says the term gimp suit is thought to have originated in the 1990s and the acronym gimp stands for guy in mask permanently. Oh, interesting.
Oh. So Tarantino has said that the Gimp was, the backstory for the Gimp is that he was a hitchhiker that Maynard or Zed got and turned into their sex slave. Oh. AKA the Gimp. I hate when that happens. So I'm assuming the Gimp didn't die. I thought he hung. I thought he died. I thought he did too. Yeah, I did. Well, you think Marcellus is going to be letting the Gimp live?
Well, that's where his benevolence comes out. I'm just saying there's a scenario where they don't think that Gimp's dead and the Gimp wakes up from his concussion. What do his next like five hours look like? They should treat him like a rescue dog, you know, just like let him off into an open field in his outfit. You think that Gimp just goes in and out? Yeah, you weren't involved with this, Gimp. Just drop him off at the tar pits, you know? Another Gimp question.
They say when they're taking Marcellus, they go take him in a Russell's old room, which is the room they go. What happened to Russell? Is Russell the gimp? Is Russell alive or dead? Oh, maybe Russell. Was Russell the first gimp? Russell's the guy who taught them how to like have a sex dungeon in the bottom of the pawn shop. Oh, yeah, right. He's like the scout master. Yeah, yeah. He's like Will Ferrell in Wedding Crashers. We don't think Russell became the gimp? Yeah.
No, I like the hitchhiker thing. He's basically being kidnapped and indoctrinated into this world. Yeah, they're driving. He's some guy hitchhiking back from Magic Mountain. Should we get CR again? Magic Mountain. I don't know.
You want me to have a GIMP? I'll get you a GIMP if you, you know, we'll put in for the budget for 25. Join me in the studio, the GIMP! GIMP, what'd you think of Presumed Innocent? Chris is like, here, sit down. Pushes his head down, sit next to him. You got to talk to Clutch about that. Get me a GIMP in your next contract. It's true, yeah. Figure that out. Next scene. Vincent shoots Marvin right to Jimmy's house. Marvin, what do you make of all this?
Man, I don't even have an opinion. Well, you gotta have an opinion. I mean, do you think that God came down from heaven and stopped... Oh! What the fuck's happening? Oh, man! Oh, man, I shot Marvin in the face. Why the fuck'd you do that? I didn't mean to do it as an accident. Oh, man, I seen some crazy-ass shit in my time, but this... Chill out, man. I told you it was an accident. You probably went over a bump or something. Hey, the car ain't hit no motherfucking bump. Hey, look, man, I didn't mean to shoot the son of a bitch. The gun went off. I don't know why. Well, look at this fucking mess, man.
We get the every bullet misses those guys. Divine intervention. But then, oh man, I shot Marvin in the face. There's so much good stuff in here just with like Marvin's brains on Jules's wig and all that. And then they end up at Jimmy's house. God damn, Jimmy, this is some serious gourmet shit. I really like the scene when they're in the bathroom together and they're washing the blood off their hands. Maybe if you had lava. Right. I mean, the two of them together are so good. Vince Yip also, crucially, is like
He's got that edge to where he's just like, I said I'm sorry. He wants to be forgiven immediately. They call the wolf. It's 30 minutes away. I'll be there in 10. I like when the wolf tastes Jimmy's coffee. When he comes in, he turns around and goes, it's good. And then please would be nice. Wolf gets mad. It's pretty please with sugar on top. We get Uncle Conrad and Aunt Ginny. We get the brain duty fucked up, repugnant shit.
Which I think might be my favorite back and forth with those guys. Yeah. Race car in the fucking red. Every time I think of Touch Brain, I'm super flat TNT. This also gets to let's not start sucking each other's dicks. Oh, yeah. My favorite line. You may get out of this yet. I can't believe this is the same car. Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet. Phase one is complete. Clean the car, which moves us right along to phase two. Clean you too.
So much good writing. I had that in my, in my comedy. I said that once to my wife when we were like, man, it looks like we beat all the traffic on the way to Ojai. And I'm like, that's the best time to use that. She's like, what the fuck did you just say to me?
I used to use it in my ESPN column and I changed it to popsicles. But always like the homage to the wolf. It's probably my second favorite line in the whole movie. I also like when he has the hose with him and he's like, okay, gentlemen, you've been to county before. Fucking banana slugs t-shirt. They're your clothes, motherfucker. Look like a couple of dorks.
I just love everything about this stretch. So that's scene 11. Scene 12 is breakfast with Jules and Vincent. Bacon tastes good. Pork tart. The argument about pigs versus dogs. Divine intervention. Moment of clarity. I got to go take a shit.
Tell that bitch to chill! Bitch, shut the fuck up! And that's the last scene, though, arguing about the suitcase and Sam's fucking cooking. What's Sam's best scene in this movie? I think it's still the Brett. It's still Big Kahuna Burger is his best scene, but he's mesmerizing in this scene. Bonnie's situation is my favorite chapter. Reviving Mia is the most rewatchable scene.
The stretch where as soon as Tim Roth sits down across from Sam Jackson, I think is the most... Is the thing I probably am returning to the most because it's the deepest moment in the movie. It's the movie that when you're like, what is this movie about? That's where thematically the movie is. The Old Testament jewels to the New Testament jewels. The transition. It's the... I think that and...
you know, I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing. Those, those two moments are the two best. They're like in war. I would go with the last sequence now at this stage of my life. You're both wrong. Okay. Most rewatchable scene is, is when Mia overdoses all the way through and the needle and he says, yeah, yeah. Okay. I said reviving Mia is my favorite scene from when he pulls up. So, yeah. Wait, so wait, do you have a favorite chapter though? My favorite stretch of the movie is when, uh,
When he shoots Marvin in the face all the way to the wolf going to the diner. Just that whole part is my favorite part. I think I prefer part one. Because part one, you also get the overdose. You get both Jules and Vincent, and you get Vincent and Mia. What do you got, Craig? Jackrabbit slims through Mia's revival. But I got to include Jackrabbit slims in that. Today's the most rewatchable scene brought to you by Paramount+. From blockbusters to fan favorites, find something new to watch every week a mountain of movies awaits.
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All right, what's the most 1994 thing about this movie? I'll give you seven nominations, and if you have any to add, feel free to throw them in. Restaurants having enough money in the register to be worth robbing. That's my what's-age the worst. Okay. $1.40 for a pack of red apples. Jesus Christ, what a country we had. Striving to be on a network pilot. Heroin making a comeback. Because Coke's dead is fucking dead. Julia Sweeney. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Riding a motorcycle with no helmet. A $5 milkshake seeming like a lot. Yeah, like a luxury. I think they're $18 at the Alamo Draft House now. They make a mean milkshake at the Alamo Draft House, but it's like $18. Yeah, you could go in basically a sugar cone after. Anything else for what's 1994? Watching whatever's on television.
But I feel like I'm with two of the number one purveyors of I just turn on the TV and flip around. Yeah, now we have like 500 channels. I just mean like, just like being like, what are you watching? A motorcycle movie? You know? And there's a series of scenes with people watching TV. You've got Young Butch is watching... Captain Kangaroo? No, no. Something super racist. Clutch Cargo. Yeah. Clutch Cargo. You've got...
Stoltz, you got Lance watching TV. And then there's one more scene. Fabian's watching. Fabian's watching. Yeah, so that's three. That's really good. I think the preponderance of Zippo lighters in this movie is... I remember being 12 and kids in middle school bringing Zippo lighters and being like, how cool is this, man? When I smoked, it would be like I would get a Zippo that I would...
burn it out, get lighter fluid all over my hands. And then my hands would stink for a long time. And then I was finally like, fuck it, I'm just going to get a Bic. Did you have a Zippo or just use a Bic? I was always an old school lighter. Just replaceable. Never felt like that was a good use of resources.
Uh, 94, uh, smoking in restaurants, obviously. Uh, flip phones. Yeah. You know, a couple of them have mobile phones, but they, you know. Prank caller, prank caller. Uh, I said this already, but knowing huge swaths of dialogue from a movie word for word because of the soundtrack. That's not something we really have anymore. It's good. Bruce's outfit when he goes back for the watch is quintessentially like 1994, like the jacket, white t-shirt, jeans, and a suede jacket. Yeah.
Single best line delivery is another category. I have so many nominees. Yeah, maybe we should just all pick three. Okay. Craig said he'd give me to watch. He'd give me to watch. He died, he'd give me to watch. He'd give me to watch. It's etched on in my soul. I'll be damned. Yeah. That was fucking trippy from Roseanne Arquette. Yeah. You can get a stake here, daddy-o. Don't be a...
Square. That's good. What's up with that? The square. The animated square. What is that in reference to? It's... There's a video about this that shows, like, the history of this. But in a series of TV shows in the 60s, this is something you would see, like, in the Flintstones episodes, stuff like that. People would draw a square on screen and you get the dotted line square. One of my nitpicks is that she actually draws a rectangle and not a square. I had that as a nitpick as well. It's an absolute 100% a rectangle and not a square. I think...
That's all you had to say. Yeah. Is really high up there. That is a tasty burger. Does he look like a bitch? For Bruce though, it's sorry baby, but I had to crash that Honda. It's probably like really up there. Yeah. For Bruce, I had Zed's dead, baby. Yeah. Zed's dead. That's good. How about you Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jingling and jangling? Yeah.
I have, well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet as my personal number one. I love that you sent in the wolf. I like that. No, man, I'm pretty fucking far from okay. Just the way he says that, you're like, oh, man. And then I actually like Amanda Palmer at the beginning with the, I'll execute every motherfucking one of you. She's great. A magic marker, a fucking black magic marker, a felt pen. A fucking felt pen.
I also like what Travolta does. Don't be looking at me like that, all right? I can feel your look. I respect you. What's aged the best? An all-time great movie poster, which we discussed in part one, done by artist James Verdis Soto, who also did Ocean's Eleven and a bunch of other great ones. And then eventually there was a lawsuit in 2021 about it from the photographer who took the Uma Thurman picture, who was pissed that he got left out of the world. So you can go Google it if you're interested. CR, this question is for you.
what's aged the best for me. Certain movies, I've never done anything more than pot my entire life. I've never tried cocaine, anything. But as I've discussed in past podcasts, certain movies where I'm like, oh man, I can see it.
The Vincent Heroin scene, the way it's filmed... It's pretty seductive. Does any piece of it make you want to go, ah, I could try it once? A little bava on a Wednesday night? A little bava while the Sixers duel the Hornets? With the music? I actually have...
what's usually best is a nostalgia I have for the lifestyle of this movie, but beyond heroin. Yeah. Cheeseburgers, vanilla Cokes, constant smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Having a beer in the morning, listening to cool music constantly. It can't tell if it's morning, noon, or night. Just like that...
The way it presents life is very like, I never had it exactly. Yeah. But I am very nostalgic for the time in my life that most resembled it. I had a much more specific but related version of that, which is that incredible feeling when you've gotten home from dinner and you're fucked up and happy and you put on some music and you're like, we did it. Because when Mia gets home and they have this so much sexual energy between them and he goes to the bathroom and she's like,
I'm in charge of the universe. She feels so good. She's so happy. That's a good one. The Hanoi pit of hell. That aged well. Just so fucking funny. Two great all-time let's keep this one between us if that's cool moments where you have me and Vincent after the overdose and then Marcellus and Butch are like, yeah, let's never talk about this again. I like when movies do that.
With age to best, the Tarantino Mexican standoff, which he figures out how to do again. I mentioned the stealth joke about Butch's watches causing his dad to die dysentery. Just kept walking, kind of slips that one in.
The baggy balloon thing, which I don't think I caught until like the 29th time I saw the movie. Which is why she gets confused. But isn't the heroine like really brown? Yeah. I think she's supposed to be so fucked up. Yeah, she is now. And maybe even curious when she sees... Because it's a speedball, so her heart would fucking explode when that happens. I like Willis and Travolta staring each other down. It's just aged the best because it's... You know, they're only in the movie two times together with these just brief interactions. Yep. Al Green. And then...
Another one you notice after 40 times that, you know, Vincent dies because he has to keep shitting because he's taking heroin, which makes you shit. Yeah.
Guy will go to the bathroom anywhere. That has shit all the time. Good point. No, I mean, it aged well from the sense that you don't notice it. Heroin makes you constipated, actually. I thought it made you have like the runs and stuff. At least according to trend spotting. It's as you, it's the opposite. Well, why does he have to just shit everywhere he goes? I guess he's just, he's also eating. Maybe he has irritable bowel syndrome. He's eating pancakes and bacon. That might be the answer. Any other what's aged the best? Uh,
So just the fact that Sam Jackson's performance actually transcends the meme-ification slash commodification of that part and every line is like a joke is...
or it's gone on to become like a saying or it's gone on to pop culture resonance. Yeah. And in the actual performance, it's like basically the only like analogy I have is like, it's like the Rolling Stones song Satisfaction. It's like you've heard it a billion times. Yeah. And then when you hear, when you actually listen to Satisfaction, you're like, holy shit, this is a really good, and that's how I feel about this performance. We just went to go see Apocalypse Now over the weekend and Satisfaction plays in that movie and I was like, this song is fucking good, man. Yeah.
There's good music in Apocalypse. Really good. Great shot. Go order a word. Wait, can I just say a couple more? What's each of us? Time-shifting storytelling. I felt like this really put that front and center. And now movies and TV. We talked about this recently on No Way Out. We're showing you something from later in the movie and then putting it. That's really popular. It's still showing up in Station 11. People are doing show like this. And just pop cultural references as a crutch for character building. Where it's like...
Like, this guy who you would not imagine likes the Brady Bunch is talking about the Brady Bunch in my movie. And so he's more relatable, even though he kills people for a living. Quentin's version of Shared Universe 2 is incredible. We didn't even talk about that. Kind of, like, gotten used to it with Marvel and DC and all this stuff. But his idea of creating, like, a movie-realistic version of Los Angeles and having all these characters, like, populating it and, like... It goes so deep. Like, I did not know this, but...
Bonnie is referenced in Reservoir Dogs. Yeah, the nurse. And is supposed to be the nurse who comes to fix up Tim Roth. Yes. And that's Jimmy's wife. I mean, that's fucking incredible. Yeah. And in that same scene that you're talking about, you know, Joe also references, um...
Alabama. Yeah. Who is Keitel's partner in that movie. And she shows up one year later in True Romance. And, you know, like, there's a million... Aldo Raines family and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. The Red Apple Cigarettes and all the stuff that recur in these first three or four movies that Quentin did. Tarantino gets what's aged the best, too. Because even they said that in that Ebert Siskel thing I mentioned earlier where they're like, is this too much too soon? What's gonna happen to this guy? And now, 30 years later, turns out to be one of the best filmmakers ever. I wrote the declaration of Tarantino as the future of movies. But...
It took a little while. He waited three years to make Jackie Brown and Jackie Brown, which is an incredible film, but was not celebrated like Pulp 2. So it did actually take closer to 10 years. Is Grindhouse after Jackie Brown? Kill Bill is after Jackie Brown. Great shot, Gordo. Most cinematic shot. I'll give you the shot looking up from the trunk of Vincent Jules. Land through the mirror selling heroin. The jaw shot from Mia getting stoned.
Marcellus with the donuts. What else do you have? We talked about a couple of them. The one-er of Bruce Willis walking through North Hollywood to get back to his apartment. The deep focus shot of Butch coming in as Marcellus is getting raped and Maynard's face. It was Maynard. And the shot of Fabian standing in the TV screen. I had that too. And he's like talking to her and he's like, what are you watching? And she's like, a motorcycle movie? Yeah. He's like, it's too early for this much violence. Yeah.
I like this is a less iconic one, but the image of Mia walking away from Vincent into the bathroom at Jackrabbit Slims. Yeah. And then the next shot you see is her head coming up from in the bathroom. Yeah. And then did you say maybe I didn't hear Butch leaning against the wall in the foreground as like a wounded Marcellus isn't walking down the alleyway with a gun right before they go into the shop. That's a really cool shot. I will say that for as awesome as this film has so many great shots.
To me, it's just an amazing act of editing. And like, so Sally Menke cut this. And the cuts, especially like transitions, are so sick in this movie that they're just like on another fucking level. Den of Thieves, Benihana Award, scene steal and location. It's got to be Jack Rabbit slums. Kid Cudi, Pursuit of Happiness Award, best needle drop. Let's stay together, son of a preacher man. Girl, you'll be a woman forever.
It was in the finals, I think. You don't like Miserlew into Jungle Boogie? Could.
I just think like it's the music dropping out of nowhere. My pick is Never Can Tell for the dance sequence, the Chuck Berry song. Oh, that's good. I also will just honorable mention for Flowers on the Wall, the song that Butch sings in the car after he picks up the watch. My honorable mention is If Love is a Red Dress, this Maria McKee song, which is being whistled as they collapse into the pawn shop. But it's a really good song. Yeah.
Well, we did it, guys. The Big Kahuna Burger Award for best use of food or drink. It's always good to hand out an award that's named after the award. So obviously Big Kahuna Burger might have to win. I got to say, though, can I make the case for $5 milkshake? Yes, please. And can I make the case for Jimmy's coffee? Yeah. Yeah. Good call. Good fucking gourmet shit. Bonnie goes to the store, she buys shit. It's ahead of the curve. Yeah.
I thought it was really interesting that the wolf drinks coffee with lots of sugar and lots of cream. I feel like if anyone were to write that character, it'd be like black. No, in the 90s though, I feel like that was a big, like, I want to see the spoon standing up in the coffee. So Quentin drinks his coffee with lots of sugar and lots of cream personally. And the only character in the movie who does not drink their coffee with lots of cream and lots of sugar is Fabienne. And she takes it black when she talks about what she's going to get at breakfast.
and esteemed Hollywood agent James Babydoll Dixon. Cream and sugar? I want the spoon standing on the fucking bottom of the cup, baby. So we get the Big Kahuna Burger, $5 milkshake, Jimmy's coffee, and I guess you could put Brett's tasty beverage in there as well. The Sprite? Yeah. Um...
I think the Big Kahuna Burger has to win because it's the awards named after it. Also, you're like, I thought about getting a cheeseburger each time I watched this. The cheese looks like it's perfectly melted. But the $5 milkshake is kind of the Sam Jackson of the best supporting actor category. Like, I can't believe I didn't win. So there's multiple dialogue pieces about me. Do you like vanilla Coke?
I do, actually. Do you like a vanilla cook? I don't know if I've ever had a vanilla cook. They don't have it in restaurants. I think they have it at the movie theater, right? Maybe. It's much harder to find. The Vincent Chase Award for Are We Sure This Guy's Good at His Job. Yeah. Let's talk it out. I have some great ones here. Can I make the case for Vincent Vega? Absolutely. Has a heroin problem. Seriously considers fucking his mobster boss's wife.
Nearly kills his mobster boss's wife. Loses Butch right after the fight. Fails to check the bathroom at Marvin's apartment. Accidentally shoots Marvin in the face. Has a serial shitting problem. Disrespects the wolf for no reason. Literally no reason at all. Has a bad temper. Leaves his gun in the kitchen on the counter during a stakeout so he can go take a shit and gets gunned down and killed. Why did he spend three years in Amsterdam?
Because he sucked. They told him to go the fuck away and get your shit together. This was a version of my hottest take. Okay. Is that Vincent has both the craziest 72 hours in movie history when you go through every single thing that happens to him and also he's completely incompetent. Yeah. And it just won't shut the fuck up about Europe. Yeah. I don't think that he's the winner of this category personally. Who is it? Well, I think it's Zed.
Because this is a real you had one job situation. You had one job. Your job was to capture these guys and rape them. That was your whole thing. You're Zed. That's all you do. You've got a guy literally in the trunk who's a gimp. A peace officer. But he only has that job so he can do this. Okay.
And you failed big time. He's a capturer slash raper. He took his eye off the ball. It is weird that they're like, Gimp, you keep an eye on this guy while you're... That's what I'm saying. Gimp, we're going to chain you up. Keep an eye on him and if anything happens, you'll be bound to the ceiling. Just moan a lot. So he empowered Gimp and he got killed because he did that. That's a huge failing. I like that you're using Gimp as like a proper noun. Can we talk one out? I have one more. The wolf?
Oh, okay. I thought about this and I pulled back. Come on. He got that car ready in 40 minutes. First of all, reckless driving. So draws attention to himself. Yeah, very true. Shows up. I don't think he gets off on the right foot. Sure, with Jimmy, he does. But he kind of makes Vincent and Jules seem like, you know, like he talks down to them. And his big suggestion is clean up after yourselves. And I know a guy who has a junkyard. Like, okay. I wrote that as well. So his big idea is like, clean up the car and then we'll take it to an impound.
That's the wolf. Wow. And leaves him at the impound. Are we sure the wolf was good? No. I just think that way at the end when they're like, oh my God, Mr. Wolf, it was an absolute honor to work in your presence. It's like, what the fuck did he do? He got Jimmy to give him some blankets. I have another one. Yeah. Marcellus Wallace. Oh, this is great. So Marcellus Wallace is a world-class crime lord. Well, are you sure? Well, let's just say that that's how he's presented in the film.
Later in the film, we see him walking across the street carrying a box of donuts. Sir, do you not have anyone who can go get you donuts? Did you really let your appetite get in the way of your future? I think he is a... So he obviously lives in the Hollywood Hills. He's very successful. He's described as a millionaire by the wolf. But I think he's like an upper middle class gangster. Chris. Chris.
You could have someone go get you donuts. Like, you don't have to go to the donut shop and you don't run a criminal empire. Maybe he likes doing errands. He likes keeping busy. Maybe he loves that part of... Chris says people get heroin for it. Choco? So, Vincent Vega, Marcellus... And the Wolf. And Zed. The Wolf and Zed. And also... Brett.
What is Brett doing? Brett is doing a deal with Marcellus Wallace and then reneging on the deal? You're Brett. What are you doing? I have a lot of sympathy for Brett. Why? Because I think Brett didn't know what he was stealing. They freak out. And Marvin fucking double-crosses Brett. He lets those guys into the room. Well, you can't let a guy like that in your crew. I guess not. But look what Brett's got to work with. He's got Marvin and Flock of Seagulls. So you think Marvin double-crossed them? Yes. He unlocks the door. I think the winner's Zed. I think Fantasy's right. Okay. You just can't be...
a professional hillbilly rapist and take your eye off the ball like that. You just can't. And on that note, we'll take a break.
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New category that I fucked up the first time. The Harry Dunn Award for best bathroom moment. Vincent in the bathroom as Mia snorts cocaine. You're gonna go home. You're gonna jerk off. Jules and Vincent cleaning up. Getting blood all over the towels. Marvin's buddy charging out of the bathroom. Mia doing coke with a bunch of bimbos. Butch and... They're just normal people. Let me cook. Butch...
Butch in the shower with Fabienne. Yeah. Vincent flushed in the toilet and bringing in his own murder or Vincent taking a dump at the diner and reading Modesty Blaze. Great call. I didn't realize there were so many bathroom scenes. Thank you. This is an incredible job by you. What do you got? Best bathroom moment. My favorite is the Jules and Vincent washing their hands. I think that's the one. His towel looks like a fucking mask.
But there's something very, very clever about making John Travolta cool again in one of the coolest movie parts of the 1990s and then having him get shot and killed in a bathroom. You know, like the sort of like embarrassment of that is really clever. I don't think people would have gotten over it if it was linearly structured. I think if the movie ended with him getting killed and Bruce Willis winning, I think people would be like, what the fuck is going on? The fact that he comes back is huge.
Well, the Butch's girlfriend award for weak link of the film, another category named after something in the film. Uh, the winner is 12 straight minutes of Butch's girlfriend. 12. It's been literally years that people have been waiting for you to discuss this. Um, I don't need to go too hard on it, but the defense, the defense of this character, uh,
Right. If you're going to defend it, if you're going to be like, I'm actually, I'm in the Butch's girlfriend business. You need some form of, of her as a character. It's like being in the James Wiseman business. Right. James Wiseman. It's like, listen, you need a big man. Yeah. Hurry. Pick and roll. We can teach him how to catch. Yeah. Light years ahead. Butch's girlfriend is like, Butch is a cocky asshole. Bet welching, boxing, murdering.
badass right but he also has this domesticated side he's got this girlfriend and she wants to have pancakes and i'm going to show this balance and then put him back in the world where he's being a badass again the counter to that um not a great actress butch gets gets back to the hotel after the fight doesn't ask if he won or how it went she has some thoughts about pot bellies
She has an IQ of about, I would say, 75. She's one way with oral pleasure. No, that's not true. They're just negotiating. He says, will you kiss it? She's one way. Let's be honest. One way. You're just tipping the scales here now. I'm going to finish my case. This is like late-breaking misogyny from you. You're like, these whores in the bathroom with Mia.
All these Gumars, dude. She forgot the watch, which is the one thing he cares about. She's forgot it. Well, that's indisputable. She eats blueberry pancakes and pie for breakfast like she's six years old. Sounds good. Forrest Gump or Fabienne? Who is dumber? Same here. I think Forrest Gump has a learning disability, so I think we're going to go with him. Okay. Is Fabienne pregnant? I don't think so. I actually studied...
studied the scene and researched it, I think she's just talking potbelly. I don't think she's pregnant. I think they would have mentioned it too. I was wondering if that was also like, I feel like you're not with my, this is the worst part of the movie that I skipped. When I get, when I'm like, I'm burning through it this time, I'm like, okay. It is undeniable that this is the weakest part of the movie. And I just said to you before, the second time I watched this this week,
I felt very checked out during this part. I will make the case that it is not a failure of the writing, but of the actor. And if you recast this part, and I'll give you three nominees, this is getting ahead of recasting catch, but it's important to the conversation. Let's say you want to stay French, Juliette Binoche. If it's Juliette Binoche performing opposite Bruce Willis, it's a much better scene. So you're doing the Sofia Coppola Godfather III scene.
right part wrong actor yes okay let's say you want to go latin american salma hayek sitting there salma hayek contemporaneous isn't going to be in desperado a year later if you put salma hayek in that part you're like well of course this guy's this woman is the most important thing in the world it's this guy if you want to just say american i was trying to think of actors who are about 60 which is a what the age of the actress who played the part jennifer beals if it was jennifer beals in bed waiting for bruce willis and jennifer beals but is she written the same way same way
Because I think that a lot of that stuff is cute. I think the like pot belly stuff is very funny. It's like very Tarantino. Tarantino has said that the whole point of that scene is that you're supposed to feel like you're intruding on private moments that you're not supposed to be seeing. So them doing baby talk and showering together and all that is almost supposed to feel uncomfortable just in a different way than watching Mia get an adrenaline shot. I just... I also this time around watched this... The first time through watching it this time around was like...
Does Butch think about Esmeralda for like five minutes back there where he's like, maybe I should stay in this cab? Because she's a functioning adult. Is he 100% in the Fabian business? You know? I think after the watch... It's a tough one to come back from. Yeah. I told you guys this, but when we watched with my son...
When he gets in the cab, I just fast forwarded 20 minutes to when he was going to the apartment because I thought I was going to lose my son potentially, who's 16, has no attention span. If you were Butch and she's like, he's like, and you're like, did you get the watch? And she's like, I think so. You think so? Would you just be like, well, it looks like you have to go back and get the watch now. Would you have made Fabienne go back? No, because she's not, she's not getting it. She's not confident enough. Yeah. So to you, this is a failure of Fabienne's intelligence. No, it's just, it's a, it's just the character doesn't work.
And it's fine. The movie gets by it. All great things have one piece that doesn't totally work. And now she lives on on our celebrated podcast. On the Butcher's Girlfriend Award. That's right. What's aged the worst? Harvey Weinstein. All the ways this movie has been ripped off the past 30 years, especially in the mid-90s.
The N-word stuff. More jarring by the year. There's different uses of it throughout the film that I think are different. Yeah. It's not flying in 2024, I'll tell you that much. I think the main one is Quentin's usage of it. His Jimmy character is the most... So do you think because that character was married to a black woman, he felt like it gave him cover? I don't know. I mean, I think that...
It doesn't really land the way it did back then. I think also it's really not up to me to decide whether or not it's offensive or not. Yeah. I would just say that the Marcellus use of it against Butch is clearly used to like subjugate Butch. But with the Jimmy Jules thing, I think it's supposed to illustrate their connection and their closeness.
But I don't know. I don't know if he would do it again today. I don't know. He's got a complicated history with, I think, the way he sees that. But I think he thinks he understands that world. They grew up, you know, in a Black community and, you know, his mom had Black boyfriends and he feels more comfortable with it. And I think also, I do think it is an accurate representation of
of his perception of how people really talk. And that when you see Tim Roth and Amanda Plummer in that first scene, and Tim Roth uses the word wetback to describe the people working in the back of the diner, and you're like, oh, God, that's so gross. But, you know, would a liquor store robber use that word while talking to his girlfriend in a diner in 1984? He probably would have. The same thing goes for the use of it by Lance. But Lance and the Maynard and Zed guys, you're kind of like, well, these guys
These dudes are sort of shitbags. Yeah, they're hillbillies. The slow-mo when Butch breaks out of the chair, I always felt like the special effects weren't awesome on that.
for what's aged the worst. It's funny. It jumps out at me too. I don't really have a take on it, but I'm always like, oh yeah, that's the only time this really is used in the movie. I have a lot more about... Do you have any good ones? I think that they're pretty lazy about forensics and DNA in this movie, with the exception of Butch trying to wipe Uzi down with a tissue. Still use the murder weapon there. Obviously...
Vincent and Jules leave an absolute bloodbath behind in that apartment. Right. Like there's been gunshots in that apartment for quite some time. At seven in the morning. At seven in the morning. Yeah. The cops are getting caught. Sadly, what's aged the worst is diners in Los Angeles. Yeah. A dying breed. Sucks. Hawthorne Grill was closed even when they made this. Right. That was like, but still like there's so many fewer. There's so fewer now.
I mean, you also mentioned earlier just the robbing diners and taking wallets thing just wouldn't play. It's a waste of Steve Buscemi. Him as Buddy Holly. It's like you've... There was a... Who is he up for? So he was going to do Jimmy. Yeah. That's part of the Tarantino plate and he didn't have time. Yeah. So that was what he did. He filled in that one though. They kind of shoehorned him in but it's like... Maybe he was like, I call Sam Jackson what to his face? Great. Can I play Buddy Holly?
What's aged the worst? The Tim Roth is the next great British actor? That whole era? Disagree. It's fucking awesome. No, it's just that was the narrative. Now it's like, I think we all like Tim Roth, but I don't think he captured it. Was Rob Roy the next year? I think it was. Yeah. It's like Penny Hardaway is the next one. Between, you know, Pumpkin and this and the cop in Reservoir. The dummy of Marvin in the trunk at the end is aged the worst. I don't know if you guys noticed that. It's like a mannequin.
Here's a good what's aged the worst. The divine intervention bullet scene. Bullet holes are already on the wall there. Yeah, that's a nitpick. Yeah. You don't think that scene works? No, it's just the Trump assassination now. It almost made me think like, oh, it's kind of like...
Start thinking about divine intervention in Trump. In this metaphor, is Trump Jules or Vincent? He's Jules. Okay. Well, maybe he's going to be the shepherd. Yeah, that's right. Maybe. He'll have his epiphany. Hold my hand. What do you think, Craig? Will Trump be the shepherd? Hold my breath. I think so. Craig, do I get a camera? Will you do that?
Here's one for CR. Smoking a cigarette while drinking a milkshake. Just disgusting. Awful. I can't think of a worse combo. I'll go a step further. Uma doing like an eight ball and then being like, burger time? Not happening. She's been doing coke all night and then she's like, I want a big cheeseburger. These are great when you come back from the bathroom and your food's there. It's like, you're on eight pounds of cocaine. Yeah.
The pop culture references, some of them have wood stages where it's just from nobody under 40 would know what the hell Arnold from Green Acres is or Flock of Seagulls. You mentioned Correctamundo. Correctamundo is another one. How do you feel about the background special effects when the cab's driving? I like them. Yeah? Yeah, it's like, it's an homage to 40s movies with rear projection. And to the point of like what we were talking about, like, I think his tone, and he's talked a lot about this, is like,
50% realism or naturalism and then 50% movie-ness. So certain things will like play out exactly as they would in reality and certain things are like only, this is almost taking place in a dreamy movie world. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, all the Pulp Fiction rip-offs we mentioned. Tarantino's acting we had talked about. Okay. Don't fucking Jimmy me, Jules! She comes home from work in about an hour and a half. The graveyard shift! In the hospital! Okay.
I've landed here. I actually really enjoy him in it as acting because we've already litigated that it's not great from 30 years ago. I actually kind of enjoy seeing him now. And I think that it's funny that he's trying to
Hang. Do your thing. I think it's it's the partnership is important in this. Well, that part is really criticized. But then when the wolf comes, there are two different sequences between where he's good. And Jimmy's good. They're great. There's the Aunt Ginny and Uncle Conrad linen sequence. And they're talking. And it's shot in such an interesting way where it's shot through the doorway. Yeah. And you're looking at Keitel and Tarantino's back is to the camera.
And then slowly you get a cut to them looking at each other where he's like, you know, your uncle Marcellus is a millionaire. Yeah. You know, Oak's good and all that stuff. Tarantino in that scene is really good. And Keitel is on fire. He's just killing it in that moment. And then there's a later sequence where they're talking too. And he's a really good performer. He just makes this choice to be like angry at Jules that just like tonally doesn't totally click. You're right. It's one stretch of...
the scene that doesn't work with him. Yeah. But he's, I actually like him in the other stuff. I like when he calls him a couple of dorks. Yeah. But yeah. I know how good my coffee is, Jules. Do you think, I'll save it for answerable questions. I have a whole Jimmy section. The Ruffalo Hannah Rubinick Partridge overacting award. They knew and they let it happen. Don't you call me lady. I come in here. I give these things to you. Give it all you got. Give it all you got.
I treated you like a son! You fucking stabbed me in the heart! Fuck you! Fuck you! Didn't we just throw somebody else in this? Who was the fifth person we added to this? It was Will Patton. Will Patton for Scott Pritchard. David! You have no idea what man of power can do! David! I'll give you Vincent. A fucking felt pen! Magic marker! I'll give you... You don't want to fuck my shit up? You're fucking my shit up right now!
From Tarantino. I have a winner, but do you guys have any other ones? I have Amanda Plummer in the last 10 minutes. In the best way. But she's awesome, but she's fucking... She's incredible. Yolanda! She has multiple lines where she's like, Why don't you execute him? Or when she's like, Shoot him in the face! You know, like all that stuff is incredible. And Jackson is basically saying what the audience is saying, which is, Tell that bitch to chill! Chill that bitch out! So...
All right, so that's a possible winner. I have the diner manager. Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting.
I'm not a hero, I'm just a coffee shop. Listen, everyone, be cool, cooperate, the swell will be over in a minute. Even just hearing him when we're looking at Sam Jackson, he's like, don't be a hero, you'll get us all killed. Yeah, he's just, he's like a TV actor. He sounds like he's in a Beavis and Butthead episode from that year. He's got a little Scott Van Pelt. I'm just a dynamite. Just kidding. Was there a better title for this movie? No way. No.
The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. Hottest take award is? Butch is a piece of shit for letting his corner guys get tortured by Marcellus. Oh, good one. And I think he only redeems himself by saving Marcellus. But if he hadn't, he was fucking done for.
It's pretty good. So this is a twist on what you described about whether or not Vincent is good at what he does. But this is just purely, this is the craziest 72 hours for a single character in movie history. So Vincent Vega gets back into town after three years and immediately aids in the murder of three men.
He survives six gunshots in an enclosed space. He steals a briefcase full of magical powers. He accidentally shoots a man in the face in a car at close range. He cleans brain matter from the inside of a car. He survives a diner robbery. He buys and uses heroin immediately.
He takes his boss's wife on a date and discovers they have incredible sexual chemistry. She overdoses on the drugs in his jacket moments before they are about to consummate. He revives her miraculously, and the next day he goes looking for a boxer who skipped town only to leave his machine gun on the boxer's countertop while taking a shit, and he is then murdered. Well, you don't understand. Choco is a madman. It's pretty good. It's a very compelling case. So that's 72 hours? About. Roughly. Yeah. That's pretty good.
You don't got Eddie Murphy in 48 hours. Well, that is a shorter period of time. Yeah, it's pretty good. My hottest take. I hate to tell Tarantino what to do. Who's incredible creative achievement. But if you dump eight of the 12 minutes with Butch's girlfriend and you put those eight toward an incredible Wilson versus Coolidge boxing secrets where Butch beats, uh,
Wilson to death, but we actually get like Tarantino's version of an actual boxing fight. Is this a better movie? Because I say it is. Here's the thing. Tarantino, not a big sports fan. Right. So that's what kind of intrigues me about what would his take on a boxing or would that have been? There's a very interesting casting what if related to this very, very take. I would like to see it. Like if I said, guess what?
Tarantino filmed the boxing scene with Bruce Willis and they cut it out. And the tweeted scene on the 30th anniversary is about to be revealed. I'd be super excited. And if they were like, and we put in 15 more minutes of Lance. Casting what ifs. So we have unbelievable. This is fully asked research. This isn't even half-assed research. This is the Quentin Tarantino list of who he wants. Yeah, we have the actual notebook of everybody he wanted. So the people that he wanted initially that are in the movie.
Kai Tell is Wolf. Walken is Coons. Roth is Ringo. Plummer is Pumpkin. Fishburne is Jules. We covered. So it ended up being Sam Jackson. Eddie Murphy was on the initial list too, which I thought was a really fun idea. Could have worked. And the kind of thing Eddie should have done. I don't know if he was ever asked. Well, it's like when Will Smith could have been in Django and he turned it down and it ends up being Jamie Foxx. Same thing. I'm not positive Eddie Murphy in the mid-90s was...
willing to go there like this he was moving into his kids movie he's moving into his let me just play a bunch of different characters yeah it's right it's before nutty professor yeah i don't know if he would have done it but after boomerang madsen is vincent and he picks wider boy he committed a wider up over pope that was really exciting and this would be vincent would be vic vegas twin i guess in this
Well, that was rumored after this movie that they would at some point do the Vega Brothers. There was buzz about in like, what, 2004 that there was going to be a Vega Brothers movie. And then when they're, before they set it on Travolta, Miramax doesn't want Travolta. And Weinstein's pushing hard for Daniel Day-Lewis. Who wanted to meet with him. What are your thoughts, Sean?
So conflicting because I would not replace Travolta for the world. No. But I'm trying to imagine what Daniel Day-Lewis would have done to get into the mind state of an assassin heroin addict. I desperately would love one, just one of these for Daniel Day-Lewis because you have the Irish films at the beginning and then it's basically like he works every five years and it's an iconic, towering, very historical, usually performance. Having him play like just one normal hitman having a weird day would be awesome.
But I'm happy it's Travolta. I think he probably tries heroin in real life to figure out the character's motivations and he's dead within five years. So thank God. Matt Dillon is butch. But he wanted to fight. And Matt Dillon was like, give me a day. And during that day, Bruce Willis was like, I'd love to be butch. And that was it for Matt Dillon. This could have worked, would have totally reset the trajectory of Matt Dillon's career.
Matt Dillon is the exact kind of actor that Tarantino was really good at being like, there's something special about this guy, but I've never seen him do something like this before. Yeah. He never really got back. No. Like he's in, there's something about Mary, wild things. Yeah, he has a little resurgence. He has a little moment, but he never really gets back to the mountaintop. It's funny that Tarantino, you mentioned about how he sees something. Yeah.
And Matt Dillon was a huge star in the first part of the 80s and felt like he was going to become as big as Cruz. If you'd said an 83, who's going to be a bigger star, even after Risky Business, Cruz versus Matt Dillon. It's still kind of... I said Matt Dillon, no question. Yeah. So...
He was never in a movie like this. So there's the story where it's like, he basically was like, can I have 24 hours? And Tarantino was like, fuck this. Then there's also a story where it was that Matt Dillon was like, I want to do this, but I want Butch to fight. Like, I want us to see Butch fight. And Tarantino was like, no, go with somebody else. Initially, he had Virginia Madsen as Mia, which is another great call. One of my favorites. And then she ends up having her moment in Sideways a good 10 years after this, but...
That's him seeing her in the hot spot and being like, there's something cool with her. So Miramax wanted Meg Ryan or Holly Hunter and Tarantino fought for Uma. He won. Reigns as Marcella, as Marcellus, um,
Some weird ones with this, right? Yeah, and it wasn't even positive what to believe, but he definitely wanted Max Julian. He definitely kicked the tires on him. Max Julian's like, guess what? I'm not going to be raped in a basement. No thanks. It was also Sid Haig was the other one who he apparently offered it to, and he said no, which is weird to imagine. And then Sam Jackson was a backup because he thought it was going to be Fishburne as Jules and Sam maybe as Marcellus. It's really strange to imagine Bruce Willis. These people are taking these roles, and you're like, let me think about it. Yeah.
Yeah. And imagine the movie with all of these different people. Imagine it's Matt Dillon, Virginia Madsen, Max Julian, and Daniel Day-Lewis. That's a weird-ass movie. And Lawrence Fishburne. But we always talk about this with the casting what-ifs. It's fucking incredible how much it's exactly like the NBA draft and the NFL draft. How much look goes into like, oh, we ended up with this generational quarterback because this fucking idiot team right before them took somebody else. It's also weird, like sometimes it's funny how we look back
We're like, Madsen's in Reservoir Dogs. And we're like, so he must be like one of Tarantino's guys, like a muse almost. And then Madsen's like, I'm going to make this Kevin Costner movie. Now, I have no idea what went into that. But it's so funny to see people just like make random choices. We're like, I think I need to do a comedy or I'm going to be busy until October. So I can't shoot. And instead, it's like you've missed out on being in one of the most important movies of the century.
So Lance, he wanted John Cusack initially, or maybe Gary Oldman, who he'd already done in True Romance. And then maybe Tarantino as a backup, and then Stoltz was a backup to the backup, and then Stoltz gets it. And then he played Jimmy because Buscemi couldn't do it.
He was putting himself in the movie somewhere. I'm not sure where QT. Yeah, he put himself in Reservoir Dogs and gets the opening monologue. I mean, worst case scenario would if he had been Lance because I think that was a bigger part and Stoltz is so good that I don't think him as Lance would have worked in the same way. He puts himself in a lot of the movies. You know, he's in Death Proof. Yeah. He's in, he's the narrator in Hateful Eight. He still does that.
Irene Jacob was the initial choice for Fabienne, and then it became the lady it became. Julie Delpy in there is a really interesting choice, too. She was also in the list. In Killing Zoe. You know, if Julie Delpy is Fabienne, I'm more interested. She communicates an intelligence that Fabienne does not currently have. Julie Delpy, very sharp. You guys recoiled when I brought up Forrest Gump.
Got all holy in the now. What do you mean? The holiest of holies. Fabienne Simple is in my notes. Marvin, played by Phil Lamar, who apparently was a comedian. He was on Mad TV. Yeah, Mad TV. He read for both Jules and Brett and ended up as Marvin. And then this is my favorite one. Courtney Love at some point claimed Kurt Cobain turned down the part of Lance and Love would have played the heavily pierced girlfriend played by Roseanne Arquette.
And that's when they audibled. I'm not positive I believe that one, if that's cool. Quentin Tarantino thanked in the liner notes of Nirvana's In Utero. Huh. The Clint Howard Award for the director loves this guy. Would you go Uma or would you go Sam? Sam. I think Tim Roth, too. Yeah, Tim Roth's a good one. He recurs in a lot of those movies and you can tell Quentin...
Tim Roth Samuel Jackson and Christoph Waltz are the three guys where I'm like Tarantino dialogue Yeah, those guys know how to nail yeah, you know dialogue That's why I wish walking had done more movies with Tarantino because he's so good at the monologues I would love to see him in scenes. That's how I feel about CRM podcasts. I know you do you wish I was on more podcasts Best that guy word Zed Peter Green
Is he Peter Green or is he Zed? I think he's Peter Green to me. He might be Peter Green. As a 90s. But you know who's Maynard? Maynard. Played by Dwayne Whitaker, but he's Maynard. I think Paul Calderon is beyond that guy, right? Paul Calderon, not of that guy. I would go Bronna Gallagher, who's the girl sitting on the couch. Had her down. Silent friend in the needle. And she's in The Commitments. Yeah. Is Julia Sweeney Julia Sweeney? Yes. Yeah.
Is Burst Ears Burst Ears? He is not. Nobody knows who Burst Ears is other than I am BB. Unbelievable that Burst Ears is just in this movie. Block of seagulls, man. Yeah, I had Peter Green and Paul Calderon as my cast. The cab driver and then the diner manager played by Robert Roof. Don't be a hero! You'll get us all killed! I think the winner is Jody's friend, Trudy. Bronnick Gallagher. Yeah. In fact, I gave her a new award that I didn't tell you guys about.
The Jody's friend Trudy word. Most impactful performance by someone who did absolutely nothing. And this goes to Tarantino, that thing I said earlier about how every time you go to a friend's house to do drugs, there's some kind of dead body there who's just kind of like, eh, and offers nothing. Do we think Trudy was sleeping in that house? Because her hanging out by herself smoking a bowl while Lance is- I think time is a flat circle.
in that house. So I think Trudy came by to smoke a bowl. By the way, you can go see that house right now. It's in Atwater Village. Yeah. Chris is not home. Trying to get CR to buy there forever. You know, if you just want to pop into the Atwater Village Farmer's Market, you know, take a right down. I got my eyes on a pawn shop in North Hollywood, actually. You down with the Jody's Friend Award? Sure. Let's add one more. We just got to keep an eye out for it. It's a conditional award. We don't give it out all the time. Well, it's time. The Dion Waiters Award.
I thought this was a no-brainer. Well, let's go through it. The nominees are The Wolf, The Gimp, Walken. Is Tim Roth eligible? Technically, but I feel like it's a lot of the movie. So Plummer and him are out. Roseanne Arquette's in. Stoltz? Lance. Stoltz is in. Lance. Maynard? No. No.
Zed. No. And the cab driver. Those are all of our extended nominees. This is about whether it's Walken or Keitel. I think Stoltz is in the conversation. I don't know! Stop bothering me! I fucking love Lance, but we're talking about Walken or Keitel in Pulp Fiction. I'm talking about Choco. In Pulp Fiction, this is Panda. So you've disqualified the GIMP. I've disqualified the GIMP. I'm sorry, Bill. Yeah. Woo! Woo! Woo!
You know when he puts his hand on his head and he starts with the fingers tapping the leather mask? So really, because I would say the wolf... You think the wolf said it too much? No. No.
Don't ever do that again. It'd be funny if we came back from a break and I just had a gimp next to me and I had my hand on the message. But we should do it not for Pulp Fiction. Just in general. So Watkins just, he check. Old school Dion Waiters just comes in and out. He's in for four and a half minutes. Crushes it, leaves. Wolf's in for like 20 solid minutes. I personally have, I have the wolf.
But I don't think I'm necessarily right. I'm going to go with walk-in because I think it actually adheres to the constitution of this award. I agree with Chris. He comes off the bench, he scores like 22 points in 25 minutes and he's gone. I mean, he scores 22 points in like four minutes. It's like a fucking Flip Murray experience. Comes in and hits five threes. He microwaves, yeah. What do you think, Craig?
And he put the watch up his ass. 100% walking. Okay, well, I think it's walking. That's like Reggie Miller, 8.9 seconds. Yeah, I think it's walking too. Man, it's tough to, the wolf doesn't win anything. We'll just have to create another award for him. Recasting couch director. He got best quote, maybe. Yeah. Recasting couch director of City. I like your Salma Hayek idea. I'm down with that. Or Julie Delpy. What if we set Pulp Fiction in Philadelphia? Yeah.
And Jules is played by Joel Embiid. Pulp fiction in Philadelphia. Actually, Marvin is played by Joel Embiid. Could you do pulp fiction in your hometown? Have you ever tried to chart out the places that they would go? It's a pretty interesting thought experiment. Pulp fiction in Boston, you don't get out of the pawn shop. You're just raped and left for dead. There's no mistakes.
It's touching. It's done and it's a wrap and you're dead. Okay. I'll tell you, Long Island's got a lot of diners. So that part tracks. A lot of potholes in Philadelphia. So I think Marvin's head would have gotten blown off for sure. Which announcer would you have wanted for the director's commentary? What do you got, CR? I had Doris Burke. I see you, Mr. Maynard.
You've been waiting a long time for this opportunity. And when Zed is done, it'll be your turn to show everyone what all that time in the gym has been about. Salute to you, sir. True Hanlon has been talking about this guy for a long time. You can see how bad he wants it. I want to say I'm extremely sorry to Darsburg. No, it's perfect. Kudos to you, Mr. Zed. You showed up at the perfect time.
Thank you for your service as an officer of the law. And Mike, I don't think people understand how hard it is to sit there with a red ball in your mouth. Butch is on the bench. He wants to get out there and compete. He's a competitor, Mike.
He could have left the pawn shop. I had Jim Ross, the wrestling announcer. You just abandoned Tony and Tim and Chris, yeah. Well, it's any announcer. I had Jim Ross for when the gimp is being let out of the suitcase. Jim Ross going, good God! That's the gimp's music! My God! He's coming to join the sodomy! Oh, God. I thought it was...
You thought Romo? I thought it was Romo. Romo with the needle? With the needle. And he was like, I'm Jim! Jim! He needs a marker! He's got the needle, Jim! He's gotta break the breastplate, Jim! He's gotta break the breastplate, Jim! Three titles! A stabbing motion, Jim! Jim, you got one shot! You got one shot to break the breastplate! Half-assed internet research. We've mentioned a lot of this, actually. Oh, God. He broke the breastplate. It's the Gibbs music! It's killing me.
I was thinking, one of the people that listens out there has to do those cuts where they cut Jim Ross with the gimp getting out of the trunk. It would just be a great video. We'll run that on the rewatch of the feed. Butch has a katana!
You could also do it that wrestling video where Hulk Hogan is revealed as the third man in Batman the Beach. You'd be like, who's the third man? And then the Gimp gets out of the truck. Oh my God! It's the Gimp. The Gimp in real life played by Stephen Hibbert, a comedy writer who was married to Julia Sweeney at the time. They're now divorced.
Apparently there's a story online where it was like John Lovitz, SNL John Lovitz, went to go see this. And when the credits rolled, he was like, I know the gimp! Tarantino used part of his Natural Born Killers money to buy the cherry red Malibu that Vincent drives in Pulp. And when they crashed it, they actually had a different car crashed. So the real car drove by so they didn't have to crash it. Okay.
Chris mentioned this earlier, but Tarantino wanted to, he sent this PA to South Central to buy a giant Afro wig. And she bought a Jerry curl wig instead thinking it was an Afro wig, brought it back. Quentin wasn't happy. They put it on and then it was clearly the right thing. And,
Sam said, no, no, NWA is starting to hit. This is actually like the right wig to have. And it all worked out. Man, shouts out PAs. Yeah. Hey, go to South Central, buy an Afro for me. Right. Okay. I mean, that's tough, but also you can't fuck up that bad. You know, you're another, you had one job situation. The film was shot on 50 ASA film stock, which is the Tarantino said was the closest we have to 50s Technicolor.
Oh, I had the budget wrong for Jackrabbit Slimes. $150,000 for the... That's so funny. I thought I read $15,000. Maybe it was $150,000. Maynard's Pawn Shop.
2933 Roscoe Boulevard in Canoga Park. Still there. Should I check that out? When we do our trip with the film crew to go to different locations. I think we should do our next live show there. Yeah. At the Canoga Park. Yeah, live from Maynard's. There's a bunch of stuff over by where Sean and I kind of live where it's like in Glendale, like Atwater Village, like a lot of that area. Foster Freeze, that's where Marcellus gets hit by the car. Right.
Pulp locations, Diner was in Hawthorne, it's gone. Mia's place in Beverly Hills. Jackrabbit's is on Glendale and Flower Street, but it's different now. Monster Joe's, Sun Valley. Butch's alley that he jumps out is in Pasadena. The place where they had the fight with the bill, that's gone. That got knocked down. Butch's apartment was in North Hollywood. Lance's place was in Atwater Village. And Marcella sees Butch on the corner of Atwater and Fletcher.
In Los Angeles. And then Jimmy and Bonnie's place is in Studio City and it was scouted by PTA. PTA was like, I have inside line on a place for you guys in Studio City to shoot. Tarantino. Yeah. Tarantino had the dance scene before Travolta was cast.
And always points out it wasn't. We didn't put this in. Social Volta, good dance. This was in here. Imagine DDL doing that dance. It would have definitely been different than anything he did in his career. Yeah. Imagine DDL drinking the milkshake. Yeah. I mean, he did it later in his career. One of our great milkshakes. I've abandoned my son! Jules' bad motherfucker wallet belonged to Tarantino.
It was a reference to the theme song of Shaft. How many times was the word fuck uttered in this movie? Do you know the answer? 180. 213. 265. The undercard of the butch fight was Vossler versus Martinez, which were two of their video archives coworkers. That's awesome. Did you bet on that one? I don't know who won that one.
And then that Chevelle Malibu convertible was stolen during the film. In 2013, a police officer saw two kids tripping a car, arrested them, looked up, found the VIN had been altered, and it turned out it was Tarantino's car all those years later. Holy shit. Did he get it back? The person who owned it had no idea it was stolen. I don't know if he got it back or not.
And then QT had Travolta speak to a recovering heroin addict to try to understand what heroin was like. And the guy said, if you want to get the bottom envelope feeling, get plastered on tequila and lie down in a hot pool, which Travolta then did with Kelly Preston. They drank tequila and lay in a hot tub, try to figure it out. And then here's one for Sean.
The 1980 Honda Civic, the white car Butch drove when he knocked Marcellus down. Same car Jackie Brown drove. Nice. Yeah. Jackie Brown, you a fan of that? Yeah. Me too. Great movie. Yeah. It's on the list. We couldn't do Jackie Brown without doing this, even though the feed's going to end after this. I thought this was the last episode. Well, if the feed kept going, we would do Jackie Brown. In the event, yeah. Let's take a break and then we'll do Apex Mountain.
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I think he could do whatever the fuck he wanted after this movie. He could have. That is true. He could have said, I want to do a sequel to untamed heart with Marissa Tomei.
This time Slater lives. Trying to think of like whether in some ways. Random poll. In some ways it's like, I think, would you say he's had a couple of like, because I think there's this, I think there's Inglorious Bastards is definitely one because it's like, look what I can do here. Like while everybody else has got to make franchise movies, I can do this. Yep. But Once Upon a Time was the biggest movie he ever made. Yeah. I would say it's this though. Yeah. No, no filmmaker has had
in the last 30 years has had... Well, I guess maybe now Nolan with Oppenheimer is probably the... Yeah. Nolan is definitely... I mean, his movies have made more money than QT's, but I don't know if they're as influential. It's kind of hard to say. They're both so singular in a way. I...
I don't know if it's his, I guess it is his Apex Mountain because you're right, he could have done anything he wanted to. And he went off and did do a lot of things that were not making movies in that three-year window before Jack Brown. He's hosting Saturday Night Live. He's doing crazy things that no director could. Acting, taking acting parts. Directing ER. Yeah. Apex Mountain for Amsterdam?
This is funny. This came up on Oceans 12, whether this is Amsterdam's greatest movie appearance was on Oceans 12. But now I wonder whether it's Vincent talking about it. The story's about Amsterdam. Yeah. How about MacGuffins? We haven't gotten to this yet. No. What do you think, MacGuffin? I think the Ark of the Covenant is like the greatest MacGuffin. Okay. Travolta.
You would be able to answer this better than us. I think it's Saturday Night Fever. I think that stardom in the 70s, if you hit with a movie, was just bigger and more impactful. Because there was just less going on. Same thing for Stallone with Rocky. You hit with a movie like that, and when you're famous, you're at a whole other level of being famous. What about diners? If you consider Jack Rabbit's film as a diner, I guess it's more of like a...
Well, you'd have to go with the diner at the beginning and end. Yeah, the Hawthorne Grill. Yeah, but like the presence of diners in this movie. Oh, just diners in general. Yeah, probably. Because there's multiple diners. What about the movie Diner? Eh.
You guys are not that into diner, I've noticed. I actually really like diner, but this is a $250 million cultural phenomenon. Diner's a 1982 movie about going backwards. So it feels like it came out a million years ago now. If you hadn't seen this, you would not have gone to diners as much? No, I grew up on Long Island. Going to diners is like a major part of life. Seriously. All right, I believe you. I'm not bragging about it. It's sad. You're the coolest. No, it's not cool. Shock-invented diners. No, it was something that was insisted upon in my life for some reason. Uma?
Apex Mountain for Uma. Probably Kill Bill, right? Yeah, Kill Bill. Yes. Milkshakes. Is it this or there will be blood? Or just milkshakes being a great beverage dessert? I want to imagine it's just like in 1957. You just go to the corner candy shop. I feel milkshakes have had better moments. I think the anti-lactose lobby has come from milkshakes in a pretty big way. It's a shame for me. I really can't have them. Milkshakes are the best.
1964, Chevelle Malibus. I'm going to say yes. Sure. Bruce Willis, no. No. Did you say Ving yet? I haven't gotten there. It's definitely Ving. Tarantino, three counts. One, two. Oh, yeah. It's a Tarantino device. There's another three count that I really enjoy from, you know, Fassbender and Glorious Bastards. Hmm.
Ving Rhames. Yeah. Because this gets him Mission Impossible. It gets him Don King only in America on HBO. It certainly does. Mexican standoffs? Probably still True Romance. Reservoir Dogs. I mean, Reservoir Dogs. The Twist? I think Chubby Checkers. The Twist feels like. Miramax? Shakespeare in Love? I think it's Shakespeare in Love. Souped Up Acurus? Yes.
Also, bizarre vehicle for the wolf to be driving. Walk-in monologues? Pool hall junkies? What about the Thanksgiving one in Annie Hall? I say yes for walk-in monologues. How about Modesty Blaze? Yeah. I do want to say the Comfort of Strangers monologue that Walk-In gives in the beginning of the movie. Unbelievable if people are not familiar with that. Modesty Blaze, no.
Because I think the movie Modesty Blaze, the adaptation of the comic strip starring Monica Vitti is Apex Mountain for that. Okay. Keitel? No. What is it? I mean... Taxi driver? Piano? Well... Ripping off some... I think this is a big drop in trial in Lieutenant. Yeah, showing the baddest Lieutenant. You know why he drops trial? It's somewhere in the 90s. Why? Because of the Mets. The way the Mets are torturing him in that movie. He's got so much money on the Mets. 74 Chevy Novas. Yes. Yes.
You're going through every vehicle in this movie. I'm going to put Apex Mountain, Jimmy's coffee, but also just coffee. Yeah. Coffee...
I would say cinematic coffee, this is up there. This is probably Apex Mountain. How about this? Starbucks has taken off. This might be the Apex Mountain for coffee. Apex Mountain of coffee. Shit's happening with coffee. I would say that this is... Coffee, like in the history of coffee? 30 years of coffee becoming this kajillion dollar industry starts with Jimmy. And I have to say, we've just gone downhill from there. Yeah. Because coffee was best when coffee was like, it's good coffee, it's okay coffee.
We don't need like all these different levels of coffee. We're in hot steak territory. Diner coffee and then slightly better than diner coffee is all that is required. How about UC Santa Cruz merch? It's elite. Do you still drink coffee? What?
Sometimes you say shit like, do we even hang out? Do you even know me? I've never seen you order a cup of black coffee. Yes. Many, many times. I drink a 16-ounce coffee first thing in the morning, almost as I'm getting up with a nicotine lozenge, and then I don't drink another coffee that day. And then you furiously masturbate, and then you set off on the start of your day. I'm so particular about my coffee. I had a breakfast the other day.
And I wanted to sleep later, so I decided to have coffee at the breakfast instead of at my house. Okay. Did it just throw you off the whole day? I was prisoner of, they brought this giant coffee, but I had no idea how much coffee I was drinking because it had those little tiny cup mugs.
And I'm like, okay. Oh, you have 18 cups? Yeah, I'm like, what approximates what I normally... And it's like, I've never figured this out. There's no way to figure it out. I was fucked up the rest of the day. It doesn't even matter. You might only have drank nine ounces of coffee, but when you're at a diner and they just keep refilling it, there comes a time... At some point, you're doing cocaine. It's me with the brown up your nose. Yeah, it's terrible.
Monster Joe's Truck and Tow. I'm going to say yes. Apparently named after Joe Dante, director of Gremlins. It was a filmmaker that Quentin interviewed in the 80s when he was writing a book about directors. And that was somebody who gave him time. I had wondered if it was Joe from Reservoir Dogs. Oh, maybe there's a connection. I don't know. His landfill. His junkyard. Conversations about pigs. I can't remember a better one. Animal Farm? They probably talk about pigs and babe. Yeah.
Horrifying male sodomy scenes in movies? Would you go here or Deliverance? I think Deliverance still has it, yeah. Okay. Squealing like a pig is still... Yeah. Another conversation about pigs. The Book of Ezekiel. Well, this is a misquote, though. But it's... I never even knew there was a Book of Ezekiel.
Well, that's on you. Well, I was raised Quaker, so it wasn't really a number one. Did you know the Bible existed before this movie? I did, but it was more of like a literary piece than like a spiritual guide. Apex Mountain for the Bible. You're going to say like no diners matter more this way. Okay. Cruise or Hanks? It's absolutely 1,002% Cruise. And if you suggest Hanks, I don't want to do this podcast anymore. It's Cruise's Butch. No, it's Cruise's Vincent. Cruise's Vincent.
Yes. No way. He can't do it. Yes. And it's Hanks as Maynard. But Gump. Yeah. I don't see Cruz pulling off Vincent. Disagree. Yeah, I can totally see it. I don't see it. I think he goes over the top Cruz. Is he that far from TJ Mackie? Is he that far from him? He fucks up the dance scene. He tries too hard. He tries to learn the twist that seems too choreographed. He won't understand how to be on heroin.
Like, Cruz is a bad drunk. Anytime Cruz has had to be a drunk in a movie, it's bad. Because he's an alien. But he shouldn't be Hanks. I'm just saying that. No, I have Cruz as Butch. Okay. Cruz as Butch works. That's a very small boxer. Well, they have weight classes in boxing, right? They do. It could be like a welterweight. Not very imposing. Middleweight. Is Bruce Willis, like, gigantic? Would I miss the Bruce Willis memo? He has a kind of strength. He has, like, more of a 1950s face, too. He's an action hero.
So where do you have Cruise as Vincent? I agree with him. Here's the other thing to consider. I don't see that at all. Fair points you're making. Cruise has never been directed by Quentin Tarantino. What do you have, Craig? I struggle to see Cruise as Vincent. I could see Cruise as Jules more than Vincent. Now that's crazy. Cruise as Jules is amazing. From the producers of Sean Young Wasn't Hot. You can't see Cruise going, that's a tasty burger.
That's a tasty burger! I'd say Hanks more as Vincent. There's a softness to Vincent. Hanks as Vincent would have been the part that he never played in his career, but it actually kind of... He would have had the Da Vinci Code haircut. Yeah. I mean, just no. There's just no way Hanks could play Vincent. You would have said that about Travolta.
There's always... Come on up, Luke, who's talking? There's always been like a kind of a darkness to Travolta, though. Like, Blowout is such a dark movie. There's no darkness to Hanks. You obviously didn't see the Family Ties episode when Uncle Ned had a drinking problem. So who's winning this? I have to mark this down. Cruz wins. Okay. Whether he's Butch or Vincent, Cruz should win. He should be in the film. And I feel like he's been on a little bit of a heater recently. Right? Is there a tally? It's tied. It's 9-9. 9-9.
Racehorse, Rock Band, or Fantasy Team Name. I will give you Five Dollar Shakes, The Gimps, Serious Gourmet Shit, Big Kahuna Burgers, Hanoi Pits of Hell, Dead as Fucking Fried Chicken, and Holiest of Holies. Zedd's Dead, I think, is the name of multiple bands. Zedd's Dead. I also had Tony Rocky Horror. Yeah. Oh. And Bad Motherfucker. Tony...
Rocky Horror. Tony Rocky Horror wrestler name. That's pretty good. What was the last one you had? Bad Motherfucker is a hardcore band from Philadelphia. Bad Motherfucker. I like Holiest of Holies the most. That's good. I think that's a great band. It's like, where are you going tonight? I'm seeing Holiest of the Holies. The Echoplex, yeah. It's their first concert, new tour. All right, Pickin' Nits.
You want to start? All mine are unanswerable questions. Okay. How could Vincent and Jules go into an apartment building, go upstairs, fire a dozen shots, and walk out with a hostage without the police ever coming? Let's start there.
This is a time when there were certain neighborhoods that the LAPD was not as interested in covering. But the guys that they go to are referred to in the script, I believe, as yuppies. And it's a yuppie apartment. Now, it doesn't look like that in the movie, maybe. But yeah, I take your point. Mia draws a rectangle, not a square. Butch's opponent, Wilson, has his weight announced as 210 pounds, which means Butch is a heavyweight. Bruce Willis, he's like 5'9". Butch's apartment...
We assume Butch was pretty successful as a boxer, right? No, I assume the opposite. I thought the opposite too. Well, he's on the cover of Ring Magazine in his apartment. They have a cover of it. So he's good enough to be on the cover of Ring Magazine. They make 12 a year, he made the cover. And he lives in this like nondescript apartment. Maybe he's bad with money. North Hollywood. Yeah. Honestly, if he knows this guy Scotty, maybe he's gambling a lot.
Fine. Just that one. You could have had a two-bedroom condo. How many fights did he have? I think you also view things through a very particular lens when it comes to real estate. No, I'm just saying the guy's a real boxer. He's the headlining of fight in LA. You're very understandably in sports movie consultant mode right now.
I agree with you. It's a cover of Ring Magazine. He knows Scotty the bookie already, I think. So he's like, I'm laying bets. Tommy Morrison led multiple cards and got cast in Rocky V. So Butch seemed like as good as that. Butch wiping his prints off the machine gun for two seconds and being like, that seems good. With a Kleenex and leaving the gun. Here's a big one for me. Would Butch be able to breathe with a broken nose and a red ball in his mouth?
Or would he just suffocate to death? Great question. That's actually a really good question. Thank you. This is the biggest one. I mean, the two worst ones in this are the bullet holes that you can see behind Travolta and Sam Jackson before they actually get shot at, which you don't notice until you've seen the movie 30 times. So Butch goes in. He kills Maynard, stabs him from behind. All we see is him coming in, stab, stab. And then he's like, hey, Zed, you want to reach that gun? Marcellus gets up.
He now doesn't have the ball in his mouth. He's not tied up anymore. And his pants are up. And he has a shotgun. I think they had tied his hands over the thing or something. Because he wouldn't have had his hands behind his back anymore. Right, but he...
You're saying that how did Marcello escape? We don't have the part where Butch goes over and cuts him loose. He just immediately is loose. So if he was able to just stand up like that, why didn't he fight back against the rapist? I think that's a great nitpick. Excellent point. Thanks. How did the guy in the bathroom miss every fucking shot? Like, you know how hard that is? Oh, the guy with the magnum? Divine intervention. Yeah, that's true. I'm carrying the pot at this point. You guys are just...
Are you being serious? Jesus Christ. I'm sorry. This is a bad one. Honey Bunny does two different line readings? No, that's on purpose, I think. I think that's the surreality of the experience of watching the movie. The same reason why the audio carries during the freeze frame and opening sequence. It's also that...
that end part is more like probably Jules' version of the events. Yes. So you're saying the movie that mistakenly put six bullet holes behind the guys who hadn't been shot at then nailed this double line thing? Maybe that was done on purpose too. I think it's a movie about upsetting expectations. The first one is any of you fucking pricks move and I'll execute every motherfucking last one of you. The second one is any of you fucking pricks move and I'll execute every one of you motherfuckers. Do you think that
I don't think they caught it. Master orchestrator just made the mistake? I don't think they caught it. They also shot all that stuff at the same time, so it wasn't like they went back and shot it again. So it would have been happening on the day of. I think it's purposeful. I think if you asked me, I'd say it's purposeful. I think it's purposeful. What do you say, Craig? If they shot it on the same day, I don't see how it's not purposeful. Okay. They're in that diner during the robbery for like 10 minutes.
No new customers, no cops, nothing. The diner one stretches belief a little bit. It's also actually, while they're doing it, you're kind of like, this is why people don't rob restaurants. There's too many different parts of the restaurant. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got to get the guys out of the kitchen. That's why you don't rob restaurants? That's why people don't. It's too much crowd control, for sure. Not enough heroin. Any more nitpicks?
No, I have all, it's just all answerable questions. We got a lot of answerable questions. Sequel, prequel, prestige, TV, all broadcast, untouchable. Untouchable. Untouchable. Okay, but can we just talk out a couple ideas? Vincent in Europe. Prequel? Yeah. Vincent in Amsterdam? Yeah. Vincent Vega goes to Amsterdam? Yes. Jules walking the-
You're not walking the earth. You're a big name for people like that. Real anti-homeless. Without a residence? Legal tender? Vincent, an enemy of the unhoused. Really? Seriously? And then, this is the one I'm most proud of. I was going to save it for Zee Want Nail, but I'm so proud of it, I'm going to put it in this.
Antoine Nakamura, Tony Rocky Horror going forward, gets a job as defensive coordinator at Long Beach Poly and winds up coaching Merriman from Den of Thieves. Oh, wow. We cross universes. And it's basically the defensive coordinator to Bank Robber Highway runs through Tony Rocky Horror, who's this guy in a wheelchair who is like also Vic Fangio. I'm worried about you.
You don't like that? I'm in. Why is Tony Rocky horror? Now you have me trying to figure out. Just because he's Samoan? Yeah. But just like. What's his connection to football? I'm making one. Okay. Now you have me trying to figure out how to merge Pulp Fiction and heat. Yeah. Now we're talking. Oh, it would have to be through the internet guy. Yeah.
Yeah. It's just not dollar. Just grab it. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Sam Jackson, JT Walsh, Byron Mayo, Harley Mays, Eva laughing, Ramon Raymond, Hudson from aliens, Philip Baker hall, or no. God damn Jimmy. I didn't know I was talking to super barista. I came here to watch Marvin's brain.
out of the backseat of my Nova. Instead, I got that gourmet shit. Well, you better stop saying the N-word so liberally or you're going to get canceled for a long fucking time, boy.
You have to take your headphones off. I always prepare. Oh, wow. What a pleasure to have Wayne back. I thought we'd moved toward Hudson from Aliens. I thought it would be maybe Byron wanted to get down with Jody and Trudy, you know? What do we got going on here, ladies? That stood for Felicio purposes. Tell me more.
I also have a stud. You know who loves Felicia? He's got two thumbs. He's ready. He served in the Navy. Just want to ask her who gets it. Jackson. Narrow QT. Director or screenplay?
everything I'm gonna say director I'm a little worried Quentin's gonna die without winning best director and uh that would just be a very normal thing and you could make the case that I mean we already did make the case that he should have won best director this year I I'm going actually just two Oscars who gets it and I would go Tarantino director and Sam for supporting actor I don't think you can pick one or the other both of them should have won period I agree best senior yearbook quote you don't really get to give this out too much
If my answers frighten you, then you should cease asking scary questions. Oh yeah. Great yearbook. Good job. I love it. Yeah. Put that in there. I'm trying to be the shepherd would be a good one. Yeah. All right. We have two, we separated probably unanswerable questions in the two categories. First, probably unanswerable questions about the briefcase.
Was it just, could it have just been a giant gold bar or a bunch of gold bars? And that's why they glowed. So the argument for that would be that most of the people, I think everybody who sees it recognizes it as something very valuable. So yes, that is an option. The counter to that is it does not appear to be that heavy. And if it was a briefcase full of gold bars that glimmered,
it would be a lot of gold and it would be very, very heavy to carry. It's also possible there's just light bulbs in the suitcase and that's what to illuminate whatever is in there and that's what the glow is. There are so many interesting clues about it. We can keep doing this. I mean...
It has a 666 combination which suggests something unholy, something evil. That's where you get the soul narrative in there. And is that Marcellus' soul? Like, that's been talked about. Tarantino has shot that down. He's been... I think he likes that people argue about this for the last 30 years, but he did say that Bing Ramsey had a scar on his neck and they put the band-aid because it was distracting for the shot he wanted. And that's how he accrued his powers. He sold his soul to the devil. Yeah, one of the internet theories is...
the soul marcel's the soul was pulled out of the back of his head in the briefcase they're acquiring your back but if you really think about that then
Why did fucking Brett and Burst Ears have ourselves a soul in a briefcase? It needs to be something that Vincent is like, oh yeah, we're happy. And that Ringo is like, is that what I think it is? So there's tons of theories out there. It's like Elvis's gold suit, the Holy Grail God. But it would have to be something that would make somebody happy and also that they would be like, is that what I think it is? I know what that is. On the other hand,
Jules does say it's Marcellus' dirty laundry. So it's like... It has a couple of different meanings within the film itself. Oh, you're right. He does say that in the diner. If I had to bet, and I think Tarantino loves this shit and intentionally never made a decision on what's in there, but what would make sense to me is it's like some sort of crazy giant diamond with lights on it to show the reflections of that it's an actual real diamond you can see inside it. Because for like Tim Roth...
for Ringo to open the suitcase and be like, is that what I think it is? It has to be something recognizable. If it was somebody's soul, how would he be like, oh wait, is that somebody's soul? What does that even look like? The last one, my last favorite question about this is does Jules ever give the case back?
Because the last time Jules is on screen is when he's not got to go piss at the bar. Right? So that would be the end of the chronology. They bring it in to give to Marcellus. But then he's like, I got to go piss and takes the case with him. Oh. So you think he just bolts? That's right when he's saying he's going to retire and walk the earth like Kung Fu.
Obviously, there is a reading that it is not anything, that it is like a representation of all MacGuffins in movies and this movie being a movie about movies. And, you know, like it is not actually supposed to be a literally interpreted thing, but just. I think that's what it is. Yeah. It's his version of a MacGuffin. Let the viewer decide. It'll be fun to hear people argue about it. I was just trying to podcast for you. It's fun to speculate. That's why we have its own category. I think what's interesting about this, though, is that Tarantino doesn't know the internet is coming.
when he makes this movie, right? It's like he thinks this is something they're going to be anecdotally talking about at cocktail parties that there's not going to be actual websites devoted to what's in the fucking suitcase. Yep. And Reddit threads like for the rest of eternity. It's interesting because it is such an overt mimic of the Kiss Me Deadly briefcase and then they open that briefcase and it has like, you know, it's meant to be like plutonium or, you know, like it's nuclear materials but in that movie it's a metaphor for like
Danger, you know what I mean? Like you open it you can never go back from it and it could be that in this as well It could be like the representation of like the criminal life or like being unable to go back cuz the whole movie is like Are you going to heaven you go to hell? So the 666 the band-aid on the neck. Those are the big parts of the case and then basically if you think Brett flock of seagulls and the guy coming out of the bathroom all work for the devil and
And then the devil decides. I think they stole something they didn't know what they were stealing. And once they figured it out, they were like, we're going to make a run for it. So it's just a great MacGuffin, whatever it is. So then if you have the bullet miracle and the concept of
you have a deal with somebody until they watch on the deal, which actually happens with Butch. So there's some sort of like, he's trying to buy his soul back. But it doesn't explain to me why you have these three goobers in an apartment who somehow have his soul. It's one of the great noir tropes, though, is somebody who's stealing something and they don't know what it is. We'll never know. We'll never know. What doesn't help doesn't serve him. Kierkegaard's never really said it. Maybe in his deathbed. I feel like he has said it's not anything. I feel like he has acknowledged that.
I think so. Probably unanswerable questions. How many robberies had Ringo and Honey Bunny committed before the diner? Some couple liquor store stuff? It doesn't?
A dozen or so. That's a pretty good run. They have enough to have a data set that they can talk about when you do this, when you do that, when you do this. Do you think you and Phoebe could have been like small-scale robbers in a different lifestyle? Just smoking cigarettes and just taking down liquor stores? No, because I find that she's too short-tempered and I'm too easily distracted. So I think that would be a bad combination for waving guns to people's faces. I don't want that for you guys. Yeah.
Although you're more Clarence in Alabama than Pumpkin and Honey Bunny to me. Thank you. I actually kind of like that. Why was Big Kahuna Burger open at 7 a.m.? We'll never know. Let's say it's 24 hours, but why are they eating it then? I have a bunch, so what do you have? Okay, so we can go wherever you want. I have a whole special for Jimmy, a whole section for Jimmy. But my first one is, when Maynard tells Zed that the spider just caught a couple of flies, how often do you think they kidnap people? And special sub-question,
What would the Mason Dixon pawn shop's Yelp reviews in 2024 be like? Great question. Do you think people are like, hey, I went in here to get a backup smoke alarm. Weird vibes. Gotta say, don't know why these guys have the only basement in Southern California.
Personally, love Maria McKee. Not sure why it's playing. Weird vibes. That's really good. This guy Maynard was sizing me up. So there's that. How much do you think Marcellus offered Butch
How much did Butch wind up making by betting with Scotty? Like what's the, what was the split? Well, he said, I thought he said 300 at one point. So he said eight books. That's 300. I thought that was $300,000. Okay. They'd probably split with the guy. So what do you think Marcellus gave him like 15 grand or something? Yeah. Okay. Uh, you want me to do the Jimmy special? No, save it. We'll do a couple of short ones. Save Jimmy. Why did Jules live in Redondo and why did he date a vegetarian?
Well, you know, he has a spiritual side. Yeah. And he's a progressive fellow. What's the vegetarian side in Redondo in the mid-90s? Surfing girls. Yeah. Hippie chicks. Okay. Why wasn't Jackrabbit Slim's a real place in real life? And why can't we go there after we finish the podcast? How has America failed us? It is really disappointing.
We have the Alamo Draft House, but we can't have Jackrabbit Slims. Would you want Jackrabbit Slims exactly as is with like Marilyn and Buddy Holly? Or would you want 70s people? You put like Charlie's Angels and Captain Steubing. Like you keep it within or you put 80s people. Would you like want Reggie Hammond to take your order? That sounds amazing. Or you get Jules and Vincent Vega. I know. Or you get grunge music and you have...
You know, Courtney Love is at one table. I don't really want to listen to a whole while I'm eating a cheeseburger, but yeah. Now that I've thought about this, I don't think I want that. All right. See you on Jackrabbit Slums. Shots out. What actually happened to Tony Rocky Horror?
Why did he get thrown out of a four-story building? He went on to be the DC at Long Beach State. And he had led his team to multiple... Why did Marsalis throw him out of a window? It was between the two of them. I bet he did something else to Marsalis that has nothing to do with Mia. I think she's right. I wonder if the suitcase was involved. That's a great question. You fucked something up. Was Honey Bunny the only white woman ever named Yolanda? It's good. Yolanda! Yolanda!
Did Butch's watch, even after all these years, still kind of smell like shit? It was in two assholes for seven years. At some point, odors just don't come off. And neither, and Cruz never says like, and I made sure to take it to an industrial level cleanser. Like, you know, it's like, what's the line? He died, he gave me the watch. Hide this hunk of metal up his ass for five years. Here's a good one.
Wouldn't Butch beating another boxer to death and then disappearing become the biggest sports story of the week? Yes. Like they're leading SportsCenter at that, right? More on in Los Angeles where a boxer was beaten to death. Esmeralda is listening to the radio station where it's happening. I think that's a huge story. Yeah. I think Keith and Dan are coming to the 11 o'clock SportsCenter. Welcome to the big show. Yeah. More stuff here on Butch Coolidge. Nothing technical about that knockout, Dan. Just beating him to death.
Do you think QT made a mistake not opening a fleet of Big Kahuna Burger restaurants? This was definitely discussed. Yes. The idea of merchandising aggressively. Is that Forrest Gump place? I'll be completely honest. At 16, I hadn't started smoking yet, but I would have smoked red apples if they were around. But this is part of what kept this movie cool. Yeah. Is that that shit didn't happen. Good point. We talked about why did anyone make a Fox Force 5 pilot?
I have a couple more good ones, but do you want to do Jimmy? Sure. How the fuck do Jimmy and Jules know each other? They were business associates. He's just, he's like, he's my homie. He's just like, I have people in Toluca Lake. He doesn't have to say they're a business partner. I thought he was like a kind of a small, small scale gangster. Okay. Unclear. He says my partner, but it's meant in the way of like my friend. Yeah. What do you think Jimmy does?
Did Jimmy actually go to UC Santa Cruz or is it just an ironic t-shirt? I think he did. I think he did. Nobody's wearing ironic t-shirts in 94. Bonnie is listed in the credits as being at the car crash as well. At Marcellus' car crash, she's listed as pedestrian and Bonnie. So was Bonnie actually also in another part of this movie? I think they just doubled up on a spare actor. And then there's a big Reddit theory that Jules is related to Bonnie.
And that that's how he knows Jimmy and that's why Jimmy feels comfortable using the N-word. Aha. Like cousins? You think he would have said that? He would have said my cousin's Vincent. Just saying. My cousin's husband or whatever. I had a Jimmy question about the coffee. What made his coffee so much better? Like he was buying the gourmet shit. Do you think he grinded it himself? Just spending more money at the coffee, like that grocery store? In 94, do you think he's grinding his own beans? Is this a Chemex situation?
Like he had like one of the first Chemex's? No, like one of the first at-home burr grinders where you can make it fresh that morning. Because they had shitty coffee makers back in the day. My dad just drank freeze-dried like packed coffee in a bag like that grounds. Yeah, this is the Folgers choice era. So is he getting his beans from like some store that sold like Hawaiian coffee and he's grinding the beans and stuff? Because everyone's like this coffee is amazing by 94 standards.
It's mind-blowing. It's also the only coffee I've ever seen transcend, like, if you're drinking a black, if you're drinking a cream and sugar. Like, I don't understand how. I have some. Let's hear it. Why did Vincent Vega go to Amsterdam?
For three years. Was it for Marcellus? Did he do a job for Marcellus? I had that as well. Was he kind of shoved out? Because he receives him so warmly when he comes home. I actually had it more on he did something for Marcellus and then Marcellus set him up in Amsterdam to disappear for a while. Okay. That's what I wrote. Did he kill someone for him? I would say definitely. Almost like Michael Corleone. That's what I wrote as an homage to the godfather. Yeah. Okay. We did talk about Butch Keying Vince's Malibu.
This is my best one. Did Maynard finish first with Marcellus and then Zed came in and went next? Yeah! Or... Yeah! Yeah, yeah. Or... No, Maynard is true beta. Did Zed have just really good staying power? Yeah, Maynard was a beta. Not to be... Wasn't Maynard masturbating? Could be. Was Maynard masturbating? Maynard was masturbating watching it, I believe. Oh. Maynard Marvel looker. Did Zed go a second time around? Is that what it was?
He complete. Wow. And then reload. Butch sneaks in behind Maynard and Maynard's kind of like shaking back and forth watching. There's no indication that the I like this theory though. The equipment is out. He's definitely masturbating. Okay. So that's an even more embarrassing experience. Craig's corner really pan off today. Where's the Craig cam? Look, I know Maynard, okay? Just reading about Maynard could get worse. I've known men like Maynard my whole life. I got another one. Yeah.
Has Mia cheated on Marcellus before? Yeah. And that was, this goes, I mentioned this earlier, but when Mia's like, oh, I go to Amsterdam once a year to hang out. Like, do you? Or are you just kind of like coked up and, yeah. Maybe that's why he needs Vincent to be with her is because otherwise she gets up to no good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Not trying to besmirch her. Yeah. Yeah. You said like Bill, she's a fictional character. Yeah. Yeah.
What are you yelling at? She was just another whore in a bathroom. I said bimbos. What kind of party was the wolf attending at 8 in the morning? I think it's a charity Vegas night. Like a charity casino night. At 8 in the morning? Still going? Yeah. Going from the previous night. By that time, isn't it like 11 a.m. by that point? No. I feel like it's a Molly's game type situation. There's some all-night poker game. There's people playing cards in the background. Yeah, there's blackjack going on.
Did Vincent intentionally kill Marvin? No. No. I don't think so. Are we positive? No, I think he actually, why would he want to kill Marvin? Why'd he shoot him? I think because Vincent's not that good at what he's doing. Well, that's probably the answer. He just went out. Yeah, he's a drug addict. Butch beats Floyd to death. Did Floyd think he didn't really have to show up for the fight because the fix was in in the fifth round? Yeah, Butch's whole thing where it's like, you shouldn't have been a boxer then.
Not very nice. Not very sporting. Yeah, very morally gray. And then when do we think exactly this movie was set? So why do you guys not think it's just like 1993-4? I do. I think it's 92 because Butch's fight was Thursday, July 16th, which was a 1992 date. God damn, Bill. Good catch. Did it say that on the card or something? No, that's just what it said on my Apple calendar.
On the card, yeah. It's on the card. Yeah, okay. That's just good work. But Mia was dancing to an Urge Overkill that came out in 94, or that song, or maybe 92. That's what it was. It's definitely 92. 92. He heard it, and that's why I went into the movie. Wolf's Acura looks 91, 92-ish, and all the references are 70s or 80s. Yeah, probably 92. Best double feature choice. Can I ask an unanswerable? Yeah.
Is it for sure that you would take a sword over a chainsaw? Quieter. Can't sneak up on anybody with a chainsaw. Yeah. Also, like, if you get down there and you pull the chain and it doesn't work, then you're fucked. It was the right move. All right. That's fair. You've got greater reach with a sword as well. I'm surprised that the sword was just like, like, sword maker sharp still. Right. But, you know. Also, I didn't know you could shoot up heroin and then drive a car.
I thought, Karen, when you were kind of knocked out. That sounds like a good special video for once we wrap here for Ringer Movies. Yeah, tell us, Chris. Right after he shoots up, he's on the highway. Let's get you lined up with a GoPro. Shoot up. Get you on the road. Get you on the 101 with Craig in my car. You feeling it yet? Best double feature choice? Chris mentioned Black Sabbath. Mario Bob, a horror movie. So you get an anthology movie. Saturday Night Fever.
Or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I feel like these movies are... That's what I had. I had Once Upon a Time. I have Bastards because I feel like structurally it's got some... The short story aspect of it is very... It locks in together. I liked Once Upon a Time because it's like beginning of Tarantino's career and then how many years later? Yeah, and it's LA. 25? Yeah, LA. The Indian Red Zawane Award. What happened the next day? I have Marcellus gets divorced and goes into therapy. Jules goes to Europe.
Mia goes into drug rehab. Fabian loses the watch again and Butch kills her. And then Ringo dumps Honey Bunny and becomes an acting teacher in North Hollywood. I have Butch leaves Fabian in a gas station in West Texas on the way to Knoxville. Is Butch disappointed when he gets back to the hotel room that she has been gunned down in the hotel room because the bad guys thought he was there? Yeah. What do you have? Would have Vincent survived?
He didn't. Yeah, he didn't. What if he survived? Didn't. And then what? Does he find, does he track down Butch and take him out? They could have had it where he was kind of down, but you couldn't tell if he was dead or not. I think it's great that he's dead. It's such a perfect, yeah. Well, this is the longest version of this category I've ever had. What piece of memorabilia would you want from this movie? I'll give you the Mia painting, Zed's motorcycle, the watch, the twist content trophy, contest trophy,
The big fake hypodermic needle, the samurai sword, the wallet, or the Coolidge versus Wilson poster that you could frame. We have a couple more. Yeah. Zed's keychain. Oh, good one. Pack of red apples. Yeah, but it would be hard to tell what was the actual pack. It's true. Lance's robe.
Lance's robe. CR would wear that. I would do Lance's little black book that they can't find. They find it? And probably, gosh, the Modesty Blaze. Oh, the actual Modesty Blaze? That's a good one. What do you choose?
I think the watch is the best thing to have. That watch was up a guy's ass. But not really. Well, we don't know. The watch they used for the scene. The twist contest trophy is a fun one. I'm just trying to think what would be fun to display. Samurai Sword would be good. All that stuff's good. But I would say the watch probably is the most value. Yeah. If it was in one of those auction sites, I feel like that would do the best. What do you think, Craig? Watch or briefcase?
Oh, briefcase. How do we not have the briefcase? Oh, the briefcase is the answer. That's great. Jesus. But then Craig. But then Craig. But then Craig. Coach Finstock wore a best life lesson. Respect for one's elders shows character. I wrote don't snort heroin. Why not? It's a memorable night, you know? Sure. She'll never forget it. What was that? What was the thing Keitel said about
Just because you're a character doesn't mean you have character. That's a good life lesson. That's from Color of Money. Doesn't he say that in Color of Money? Yeah. Who won the movie? Quentin. Quentin. It's amazing Sam Jackson didn't win the movie, but it's definitely Tarantino. He's the runner-up. It's a film by Quentin Tarantino. Yeah. The title card, right as the movie ends, when they walk out of the diner, and then it goes, written and directed by Quentin Tarantino, is a t-shirt. That's like a t-shirt that people wear to this day in that font.
Craig? Did you like Pulp Fiction? Can you imagine? Craig, what did you think of Pulp Fiction? Sam Jackson. Had you seen this one? A little too much. Overrated. Yeah, I've seen this probably a dozen times. This movie I truly think is better the second time.
It does get better every single time because the first time watching this movie, you're like, you're so fixated on figuring out the timeline. What day is it? Why is Travolta alive now? What's going to happen next? But when you can just kind of sit back and enjoy because you kind of understand the timeline aspect, it's so much better. Travolta really stood out to me this time around. I think I'm realizing that I love when movie stars play non-movie star roles.
Because I loved Stallone and Copland. That really stood out to me. And watching... I like when movie stars are at that inflection point in their career and they have to kind of take a risk. Yeah. Because they're no longer at that... On that movie star pedestal. So, yeah. I thought the Travolta stuff is very similar to the Stallone and Copland. I really liked... I really loved it. And then QT, I feel like, is...
I mean, he's every film major's favorite director. And what's awesome about him is like, it never, it never felt like he caved. Like he has always felt so original and authentic. Yeah. Um, he's, I mean, he's like, okay, he's, he's so famous, but he's been, he's okay. Just disappearing for four or five years and then coming back almost like a Daniel Day Lewis. Um,
And yeah, I don't know. It's like as much as you can put any other director's movies up against him, there's something about like his willingness to be okay stepping back, never selling out, never taking a huge commercial project. Even if these movies are commercial, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is like Leo and Brad Pitt and it costs $200 million. But it still feels like it's like authentic and indie and original. Homemade. Yes. Everything feels very like, yeah. He created his own universe. Very designed, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That was producer Craig Horbeck. Pulp Fiction, we did it. How long was that? Man, over four. 415? 420? New record for us? We have to just discuss, like, this is the most long-threatened but never-executed episode in the history of the show. Yeah. You said this would be the end of the show if we ever did this movie, right? Yeah.
So we've done it. I did say that, didn't I? We've done it. Yeah. But you've also, the feed is continuing. Do we have to say that? We're going to put up a pod the week after. I'll see how I feel tonight. Okay. That's good. You got to keep us in the dark.
Can I ask one more? I'm doing the LeBron. I'm just starting to be like, yeah, I don't know. Zero bill 30 could be it. Can I ask one more thing? Yeah. Uh, my friend and I were trying to figure out, cause I was, I was talking about how we were going to do this movie. And we were like, is it, where does this movie rank in the, Oh my God, you haven't seen that movie category. And then we started to talk about non-franchise movies, standalone movies, movies that have never had a sequel or are not a part of a franchise. Yeah.
is this the number one most culturally defining movie that never had a sequel or became a franchise? The only other thing I could think of was Titanic or maybe E.T. Where do you go? What do you guys think? In the history of movies? Like in the modern, I would say, you know, 70s on. But like we're talking about where nowadays, if you said you haven't seen that movie, I think Titanic and Pulp are bigger than Casablanca now.
I think that's true because people got old and died. If you go to a- I mean, way more people have seen Gone with the Wind than have seen Pulp Fiction. But- Way more. I mean, so many more people saw movies. I'm talking about people alive right now. Oh, right. Alive right now. If you went up to somebody and they said, I haven't seen this movie- Nobody under 40 has seen Gone with the Wind except like very few like super duper film nerds. Right. So just standalone movies and no sequel, no franchise. What is the biggest you haven't seen that movie right now?
See, I can never tell anymore because sometimes you get into weird gap years where you're just like, oh yeah, like, you know, there's a lot of fucking stuff to watch now. So I wouldn't be shocked if somebody was also like, this isn't really my vibe. For me, it's still Silent Rage with Chuck Norris. Yeah. How could they not have added that story? I still get upset when people haven't seen it. I feel like there's still time to do the Tony Rocky horror DC and it might still be coming. I think it's Titanic or this.
Yeah, I guess if you're approaching it, I like where Craig's going with this from the standpoint of you can't believe somebody hasn't seen a movie. Because of how culturally defining it was and is, but has had no follow-ups. Did Ben know what this movie was at all? Yeah, he totally knew what it was. He just hadn't seen it. I mean, even in this year, Forrest Gump and Shawshank are like,
two of the most seen movies of the last three decades. Gump is a good one. And they're both original. I think the original is Titanic. Because Titanic's timeless. Yeah. It'd just be weird if somebody hadn't seen it. You would never be able to recapture anything about that. It's a really fun exercise to think about. Another version of a thing I wish I had some time to think about. Yeah. E.T. was the only one that I was like, well, E.T.'s kind of surprising they ever did. But that's something that a lot of young people these days maybe haven't seen. Yeah. Because it's 40 plus years old now.
And because it doesn't have sequels in there, not like, oh, I guess I have to watch all the E.T. movies or something. This is a new one coming out. Yeah. Good exercise. This podcast was produced by Craig Korobach. Thanks to Jack and Gahow as well. We did it, guys. Good to see you. We did it. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Bill.