‘Internal Affairs’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan
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The Rewatchables is brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where you can find The Watch. Yeah. With Chris Ryan, who's wearing a Broncos hat today. It's a Durham Bulls hat. It's a Durham Bulls hat? Yeah. It looks like a Broncos hat. No, it's Bull Durham. Yeah, it's a Bull. You'll see it right there. Wow. So who stole it from who? The Durham Bulls or the Broncos? That's a great question. I think that the Broncos probably have the copyright. Also, Van Lathan. Can you hear him on Higher Learning? Absolutely. He's wearing a cowboy hat. He's wearing a cowboy hat today? That's my new thing. I'm going to wear a cowboy hat.

I'm into it. Cowboy hats? Cowboy hats. I'm taking it back, man. Well, we are about to start playing lollipop with the service of Robert. Internal affairs is next.

Okay.

Let's go for this. Okay. This movie came out in 1990. I said on the text thread, they don't make movies like this anymore. And Chris's response today was what? I don't know that they ever did. I don't know that they really ever have since or before made a movie like this. It's a one of one. It is a Dirty Cop movie crossed with

I don't know. A psychosexual, cocky, and cock thriller. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, a dirty cop, when you say dirty cop, not just dirty cop in his profession. Yeah. The dirtiest, filthiest cop ever. Yeah. I'm talking about like,

This guy is the most dangerous dick that has ever existed on film. And Richard Gere wears it so well. I don't remember this movie being as unhinged. I've seen this movie a bunch of times. Watching it as an adult, it was a completely different experience, man. It's like, hey, Dennis Peck's going to drive your wife home. No, he's not. Yeah, exactly. Get out of the car. And no woman could resist. Yeah.

It was a matter of time before Dennis Peck is railing your wife and making you watch. Literally named Peck. Pecker Peck. We've been circling this one for a while, partially like as a mutual dare, I think. Right? And when you're watching it, this is like a special genre of film, which is the look behind you. Because you're like, is anybody watching me watch this movie? Right.

And make sure nobody can hear you watching this movie because you will get a lot of, what the fuck did he just say? Like from the other room, if you're watching this on TV, when I was a kid, I was like, I'm not supposed to be watching this. And now that I'm in my 40s, I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to be watching this. You know what?

I didn't even know they were talking like this in 1990. Because a lot of these things weren't. We've done so many 90s movies. They weren't. So a lot of this talk is up now because we're so porn obsessed because everybody has like a little thousand dollar pornographic machine that they walk around with at all times. I don't know if you guys use it for different things than I do, but that's what it is for me. What's going on right now? But anyway. So Vision Pro has really impacted your life. Vision Pro has changed it, right? New horizons.

But like the way he's even talking. We could do a whole pod on it. You're clicking around. Kalika's like, what are you doing? I'm like, nothing. Yeah. Read my emails. Too high safety.

But like this movie, like the way he's talking to him, he's talking to him like the foulest porn, crazy sex freak ever. And I just don't remember that being in a lot of movies in the late 80s, early 90s that I grew up watching, man. Where is this in the Dirty Cop movie pantheon for you, C.R.? It's pretty high up there. Can I give you some possibilities? Please. I mean, Departed and Training Day, I think, are in there. For sure. Like those have to be in there. Those are like the magic and bird.

For me, Copland's in there. Even though we already did it on the rewatchables. I love that movie. I was watching it a couple weeks ago. I'm just, Leota and that movie, I just can't get enough of. I mean, you have to go back to some of the 70s classics. Well, I was going to say, this one, Serpico. Serpico, yeah. Connection. Yeah, Connection. What else do you have? I mean, there's so many great, like the Seven Ups, the Roy Scheider movie that's kind of like French Connection adjacent has always been one of my favorites. Yeah.

Like there was not a clean cop in the 70s. They made movies about a cop. It was like he was on the take or he was up against a bunch of cops who were. He was doing so many dirty things. Prince of the City is another great dirty cop movie. So yeah, those are mine. Can I read you the Wikipedia? Just one sentence. Sure. About this movie. This is when they have the, where they describe the plot.

Meanwhile, Peck not only has a widespread web of corruption based on extortion favors to cops and criminals alike and complicit dealings with pimps. He also moonlights as a hitman. One sentence hitman deals with pimps, cops, criminals, and a wide web of corruption. But that doesn't even say the whole story. No deals with pimps, but unclear how.

I thought maybe he was a pimp at some point. He said that the pimp, that the girl was his snitch. Unclear his relationship with pimps and how. They seem to get along really well, though. Like he's hanging out at that food stand all the time. No, he's one of them. Yeah. But like, what's the relationship about? Probably information and looks out for them. Yeah, you guys get to operate freely as long as you feed me info. And has sex with all of the working girls. Well, I mean, he clearly has sex multiple times a day. Yeah.

He's just a walking Woody. Right. Multiple times a day, multiple different people. That's CR's favorite part when he goes to see his ex-wife.

She's like, where are you going now? I got to pick up our son at 12. I got to go get Ethan at noon. He just opens the door. Let's get a stunt one in. Once again, no one can resist. Every woman he sees, it's five minutes before he fucks her. So this is the magic trick of the movie. It's a really engaging L.A. crime movie. It's up there with live and die in L.A. It's like a really cool preheat L.A. crime flick.

But the gear thing is out of control. Like the idea that this is seriously the devil

It's the Antichrist version of Philip Rivers. You know, it's like he's got nine children. Yeah. And he's rolling around Los Angeles. And the problem with it is that you can kind of see it. You can kind of see he's so charismatic in almost every interaction he has with somebody. Even when he's like trolling Andy Garcia to the point of a fist fight. Two fist fights. So there's two scenes. The first scene is...

where I'm looking at him like, oh. So there's a scene and it's breakfast time. Yeah. And it's his ridiculously beautiful new wife played by Annabelle Oscuro. Yeah. A rewatchable's favorite. Just amazingly beautiful, right? Heather. On her way, 15 years away from selling cars and hooking up with Tony Soprano. But only a couple years away from being a very, very prominent figure in the lives of a lot of young black adolescent males.

Jungle fever. Oh, yeah. And hand that rocks the cradle. Hand that rocks the cradle, right? Unable to understand why everything has gone wrong since the nanny showed up.

And then, so he's in there and his ex-wife walks in, kisses her. She's beautiful. On the mouth. On the mouth. Full on the lips. Whole deal. And for a second, you're like, okay, which person is he in the relationship with? And you look at him like, that's the type of motherfucker who could probably pull that off. Yeah. She's like, I have a date. He's like, what? My ex-wife has a date? My ex-wife has a date. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then the other scene is when he's going back and forth with Dorian, who's played by Michael Beach. Yeah.

Boston's own. He pushes him to the ground. When he gets up, he's like, you still love me. You still love me. You're like, that's the kind of asshole charisma that makes a guy like that the leader of his squad or whatever. I was going to do this later. I'll do it now. I think this is his best performance in a movie. I agree. It's this and it's Officer and a Gentleman probably in the final two. Some would say Gigolo, but I don't think... Gigolo's a charisma movie, but he's doing more in this. And then Pretty Woman...

He pulls off, what he pulls off from Pretty Woman is like, uh,

A little bit hard to do. Pulls off aloof, charming, mysterious. He's a cutthroat billionaire who's basically looking for love. But also in that scene when he treats her like when she says, I've never treated you like a hooker. And she's like, you just did. And even then you're like, I still like this guy. I hope they work it out. Yeah, he can get away with almost anything because of like... My mom's favorite actor. This is his favorite of his own movies.

Is that true? Yeah, it was at the time. Like around the time. Well, this was the Richard Gere comeback season. 1990. He has this in Pretty Woman. He's coming off. We talked about this when we did Officer and a Gentleman. Does Officer and a Gentleman and goes on an eight-year fucking bender of just bombs. Yeah. And it's like King David and all these movies that just don't work. And then by 1990...

He is like the eighth choice for every movie after the other seven people have passed. Somehow he gets internal affairs pretty well. Well, it's the same thing. I think a lot of people pass on internal affairs. Yeah. And you can see why. I mean, the content is pretty toxic. But you know what else happens in 1990, Van? What? The Richard Gere comeback year meets the Andy Garcia sons.

Because that's happening. Because we have this and we have Godfather 3, which gets nominated for supporting actor. He's awesome in it. He's fantastic in the movie. Coming off Black Rain. And this is like, we think this is going to be one of the big actors of the 90s. Yeah. I feel like he had that in common with Ray Liotta, which I always thought that Ray Liotta with the looks...

the charm, the acting chops. I always wondered why Ray Liotta didn't break through to the next level of Hollywood star. And it's kind of the same thing with Andy Garcia. Fantastic, fantastic career from Andy Garcia, but never quite became the guy on the next level that I thought he was going to. It's a one movie away syndrome. Yeah. We talked about this a little when we were talking about Rebecca DuMornay last week, and actresses is a little more complicated. But with the actors, sometimes...

They just never had that one last part. Like Costner had no way out.

And it's like, oh, Costner, here we go. But then he had Field of Dreams. But it's also Durham. And then it just kept going. And you have to also move from the young supporting actor role or the, you know, like the basically the foil to the star to the star. And Garcia had a harder time doing that, I think. I wonder how much of it was the Latino thing. Just people being afraid to put him. Because I feel like he could have played 80% of the Kevin Costner parts. Sure. But...

Were there roles for him to play is what you're saying? Yeah. My thing is if you're doing scouting combine for like we're in NFL draft season, I've doing scouting combine for what you'd want from an A-list actor to lead a movie. He checks every box. And I was, I mean, I was, I remember when he got beheaded in black rain, spoiler alert. Yeah. But it was like, Oh no.

They got him. You can see it in The Untouchables. When he first pops up in The Untouchables, you're like, oh my God, this guy's like electric. He's going up against everybody in this movie. He's going up against Connery. He goes toe-to-toe with him. What's cool about this movie is I feel like him and Gere are at the peak of their powers. And the two characters, they just have a chemistry. There's a lot of backstory with that that we'll get to. But you just feel like...

they're competing for the movie in some ways, like who, whose movie is this? But then the two characters are competing against each other. There's the sexual stuff. Why do you think more movies don't do this with male actors where that like,

I could fuck your wife if I wanted to. The sexual component of movies has been almost completely removed. I mean, there's debates now about whether or not movies should have love scenes. But even beyond that, I don't even really think that there's a lot of like... I don't really think that films like contemporary mainstream movies really get too deeply into people's...

people's sex, sexual pathologies, I guess. Like, so what's going on with your marriage kind of dialogue and somebody using that as a weapon to be like, oh, there's something here. Now I'm going to really twist it. It's a lot more complicated now, but for obviously a lot of societal and cultural reasons. But I would also say this,

with what you're talking about with the guys and I'm fucking your wife type of thing. Think about this movie and the dynamic of the male leads. You have three fantastic looking male leads. You have Billy Baldwin. Then you have Andy Garcia and you have Richard Gere. Richard Gere is the guy who can fuck both of their wives. He does. He does one. He was on the way for the second one. He thought that it was going to happen. She looks fantastic in this movie too. So,

that in and of itself to play that role to like play the cook and like this another guy be the lothario a lot of those leading man type guys when they're in there they don't want to really do that like that you're seeding a sort of sexual power that a leading man should have to another actor and it's kind of difficult yeah cruz isn't signing up for this he's not gonna he would play so richard gare's gonna talk about fucking my wife and no i'm not doing that

Right. And then not only talk about fucking him, but going to drive you so crazy that you're going to believe that it fucking happens with the whole little flashback and all of that stuff. Yeah. He's just going to get in your mind like that. It's tougher for male leads to do that, I feel like. Well, they reportedly did not get along when they were filming this movie. And I like that. I feel like you can feel that. In the elevator scene, I think Gear got a couple extras in. And then in the research...

Not positive it's true, but it seems too weird not to be true. Garcia refused to attend the wrap party. - Interesting. - Oh, I thought you were about to say in the research, it appears to be true that gear fucked Garcia's girl. - Really? Just to get in character. - Just to get in character. - It's a method actor. - Right. - Also 1990, Dirty Cops. This is kind of the, we're about to hit, especially in LA, we're about to hit a five-year stretcher where this becomes the dominant theme, not only in LA,

but in the country. Yep. And this movie's early on it. And this is kind of the end of the dirty cops as popcorn entertainment era. Yeah, when does it start? Like, I mean... Rodney King shifts it. Yeah. It changes right after that. You can't do it quite this way. Even Colors has it, like, there is, like, something redeemable about it. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, they're...

in colors, they're more renegade cops than they are dirty cops because they still have some cop type ethos. Yes. But post-Rodney... Colors is not age well. No, I know. Colors will not be on the rewatch. Like...

Which is really saying something because we're doing internal affairs. But once we really started to interrogate policing in a real way, these movies kind of went... I mean, Training Day is the biggest one since that time, but these movies kind of changed a little bit. Training Day is in a completely different prism and it knows it. This movie's kind of like...

ah, it's fun to watch Richard Gere be a dirty cop. We should have more dirty cop movies. And then three years later, we're like, eh. I was rooting for him. Yeah. He had eight kids to pay for. Yeah, eight kids. Go get yours, Richard. When the shit happens with the van and the guy, I was like, God damn. Not my man Peck. What is Peck going to do now?

Like, who is Pitt going to have to fuck to get out of this situation? He's got to hit up another pimp. He's got to have sex with the mayor's wife. Right. His sentence commuted. This movie has lines like, you've had three 181s for excessive forces in the last 10 months. You're wearing a hole in the carpet. Yeah. And it's like, oh man, why can't Billy Baldwin just stop with the excessive force stuff? Five years later, that's out the window. But...

I do really like dirty cop movies. Like, I actually don't feel like we've had enough. Well, I think that... Because this is like the last line of defense for us, right? So when they're going sideways...

to me, it's just interesting as a viewer. There's so many different ways that could go. Like, has there been a great Dirty Cop TV show? Well, We Own the City is pretty great. The Shield? No, The Shield. They're not dirty in The Shield. What's a good one? They're pretty good in The Shield. The Shield? Yeah, they're dirty. I guess The Shield's the closest, right? We Own the City was only six episodes. Yeah. Um,

I mean, I think that there's like there's aspects of like the dirty cop thing in a lot of shows, but it just I think TV tends to do more procedurals. Yeah. So you tend to do more law and order type of things like rather than like let's do an expose on like I mean the wire. And so that's what I was about to bring up. Yeah. So the wire you wouldn't see the cop. You wouldn't say that the cops are dirty in the wire. Yeah. But they beat the dog shit.

Out of suspects. Yeah. At the drop of a hat, right? They'll plant a little evidence when they have to. You see a couple of these, Herc and Carver take some money, the whole not. So they're more human than they are police, which makes the lens that you look at them through a little bit different. Yeah, that's a good point. Billy Baldwin. Internal Affairs. Another guy that almost got there. Internal Affairs, 1990. Flatliners, 1990. Backdraft, 91.

Three of Hearts, 93, which I will still defend. That's a good movie. And then Sliver, which was just in the news because he had a back and forth with Sharon Stone. Hollywood gave him a four-year window. Give him a shot. Prove it to us. A little like Kenny Pickett on The Steelers. Sorry, Kenny. We gave you two years. We're trading you to the Eagles. Billy Baldwin got traded to the Eagles after Sliver was over and his brother kind of took the spot. I always liked him.

But something must have been missing in the Billy Baldwin package. But I always thought I liked him during the stretch. He might just be too cute. Billy Baldwin might just be too... When they're like, oh, man, Van, you're coked out. I'm like, is he? He seems like he looks great. His eyes weren't sunken in enough. No, I mean, he's just like, you can't mess... You can't scuff that diamond up. You know, like back then, like, so he does this, but...

Flatliners and Backdraft, right? Yeah. It's pretty much, yeah. Then Fair Game comes around at some point. That's when the wheels come off. Yeah, because she was so hot at that point. Yeah. She's like one of the worst actresses that's ever been committed to film. Right. But she was so hot at that point. If that movie doesn't get across the finish line, then people aren't interested in seeing Billy Baldwin

in any real way for like a blockbuster type of movie. I do wonder whether or not, just to quickly go back to your dirty copy. Did Alec Baldwin market correct Billy Baldwin? If Alec Baldwin doesn't exist? They were like parallel tracks. I think Alec's before Billy. Alec is before Billy. Do you think he ever thought about, man, if Alec Baldwin wasn't here, I would have gotten some great roles?

I could have been the doctor on Malice. Alec actually has talked about this before. He was like, at one point, Billy was the hot Baldwin brother. And that's the point that Alec starts. Because, you know, I think Malice, when does Malice come out? Right around here. 92, 93. Malice is good. Yeah, Malice is fantastic. So, like, Alec Baldwin is probably the more serious Baldwin brother, even during that time. But he was going in the 86, 87 range. It'd be like if we had...

I don't know, Daniel Ryan working for us, your older brother. And I had been doing the rewatchables with him because he loved Heat. Yeah. And you're like, man, I love Heat too. Why did Daniel Ryan get to do it?

That could have been me. Do you think that Bad Lieutenant pretty much ends the dirty cop movies? Did you like Bad Lieutenant? Well, I think it's the dirtiest cop that's ever lived. That one went too far for me. I know some people love it, but that's not a rewatchable for me. It's a fun movie. It's just so absurd. It tried too hard to be deranged. There's a line. That's what I love about this movie is deranged, but it doesn't try...

Too hard. Written by Henry Bean. Oh, I forgot with Billy Baldwin. He plays a guy named Van. Van Stretch. Van Stretch. Another reason why... How have I never called you Van Stretch? This movie, like...

Spoke to me as a kid because I never got to see anybody named Van in the movie. See, because one of my unanswerable questions for this movie was, is it Van Stretch like Van Lathan or is it Van Stretch like Keith Van Horn? And they just don't call him by his first name. They call him Van a couple of times. No, I think his name is Van Stretch. I think his name is Van Stretch. So how many movie Vans have there been? Not very many, bro. Van Wilder. Van Wilder's one. And by the way, all throughout college, they called me Van Wilder. You Wilder than Van Wilder? Oh my God.

Would you rather be called Van Wilder or Van Stretch? Gotta be Van Wilder. Okay. Because Van Stretch got cooked hard. So there's no like Van Johnson. You have to add like the weird last name too. It's gotta be Van Wilder or Van Stretch. Van Stretch. Like Van Smith. It doesn't work. This movie was written by Henry Bean and directed by Mike Figgis. Yeah. Who went on to leave in Las Vegas. And...

Pretty strange last 20 years for Mike. Yeah. Might have gone against Scientology a little and some things happened. So, Figgis is kind of an interesting... I'll do the fantasy thing where it's like, I'll just say like, he's like an interesting Hollywood director who was very like provocative within the system so would do these genre movies but then really push the boundaries of like what he could get away with within those movies. There's not a lot of guys like him, like maybe Neil Jordan or somebody like that, but...

a very, very, used a lot of different techniques like filmmaking wise and then also obviously was very interested in sexual...

psychology stuff. This movie is very well done for 1990. I mean, it's 34 years old, but it's very... It feels somewhat modern. Yeah, really? Honestly, the only stuff that's dated is the shootout. Well, and the phones. Yeah, and the phones. Chord phones are very prominent in this movie. Well, they also have the fucking classic antenna cordless phone. Oh, yeah. That's classic. The Gordon Gekko phone. Yeah, the classic. He...

If you watch this movie and you put it next to Leaving Las Vegas, you could tell that they have the same DNA. Desperate sex. Desperate, almost violent. Remember the one part of Leaving Las Vegas where she's walking on broken glass? Yeah. Like the whole nine. You could tell. They're both set in a place that's supposed to be full of promise but is in fact full of sin and desperation and all of that stuff. Should we do Leaving Las Vegas for rock bottom month? Yeah.

That's the... The amount of months you have on the stove right now. Find me a movie that's more rock bottom. Like, Leaving Las Vegas might be the number one. Requiem for a Dream? That's pretty rock bottom. But isn't there some redemption in that? No. Craig, who's the sponsor for Rock Bottom Month? Probably not people lining up. Boeing? Athletic Dream? Jesus Christ! Oh my God!

It's rock bottom. Buy the dip. That's a good way. Great stuff, Craig.

$50 million budget for this movie made $47.7 million. It did well. I saw it in the theater. And then was a cable, somehow, a cable mainstay. It was on all the time. It was one of the worst edited for TNT movies possible. Because Dennis Peck is just absolutely diluted Dennis Peck. But they would keep the black and white fever dream footage in there. Yeah. And I was always like, did I miss a scene that this is flashing back to? You don't understand.

That always confused me when I was a kid. So Ebert, I couldn't find a review, but I did find his At the Movies with Siskel. Oh, good. And they both loved it. And Ebert said, it's really a movie about personalities. It's not just a cop movie that plugs in the usual elements from other cop movies. This is a good movie. Gear is brilliant. It's barely a cop movie. So I'm going to say either three or three and a half stars for Raj. It's barely a cop movie.

It really is. It's hard to even explain what law enforcement is at stake. It's like IAD is investigating this guy and then when Van gets murdered, they think they have the witness who was the second guy at the shooting. That's essentially the cop part of the movie. This movie could have been like... Remember how in Ghost...

What's his name's character? What's the guy that was fucking Kerry Washington on Scandal? Oh, Tony Goldwyn. Tony Goldwyn. Like, okay. By the way, I didn't mean that literally, although there is talk. But... But... I've gone to some parties. Right.

So remember how in Ghost he was the dirty banker that was funneling money for the drug dealer or whatever? This would be the same movie with those two guys within a completely different... The cop element of this is not as necessary as you would think. Because it's a movie about power, manipulation, about like...

you know, usury and all of that stuff. The police stuff is just how these guys meet. It's a great turn because it starts out being literally about internal affairs department of the police department. And like you get introduced and Laurie Metcalf walks them through all the exposition of like, we're ID and we do this. And this is the, this is what we have to look out for. And this is what people are going to think of you. And you're like, okay, it's going to be a cop movie. And then the internal affairs actually turns out being like the inner workings of people's marriages and sex lives. This was an era of,

of movie. Because we always talk about the from hell. I guess you could say this is cop from hell, but not really. There's like... Because also Bad Influence with Rob Lowe and James Spader comes out this year. That movie's kind of unhinged too, where he's just like decided to try to ruin his life. But this...

89 to 91 stretch. There's a lot of weird movies. Even through like Single White Female. Yeah, that's another one. It keeps going into like 92 where you're like, what the fuck? This is really dark. Yeah. And it was like the sex, there wasn't necessarily a sex scene, but there was weird sex stuff. Like Single White Female has that scene when

She the bridge of fauna hears the noises and she opens the door and thinks she's with With a guy and the girl rolls over and she was by herself and she's like I am so glad that this came up Thank you. I figured it might be in your wheelhouse. I'll tell you I love single white female Okay, you're on the list. Yeah, we do single white female court And I were just arguing with about this Oscar winner Oscar winner. Was that an Oscar winner name drop? No, uh, it it it

Is single white female, just real quick detour, is that an erotic thriller? Yes. In a way, yeah. See, I don't think so. Because in an erotic thriller, doesn't sex have to be a real integral part of the plot? I think that the obsession borders on sexual. Yeah. Interesting. Okay.

When we do single-way female, I get to do my impression of the guy from Wings getting a blowjob and realizing it's not Bridget Fonda. That it's not his girl! Oh my God! Peter Wolverine? You want me to break it out now? Yeah, I'll do it when we do it. I'm going to tell her myself. It's one of my best 90s impersonations. That movie is absolutely insane. Do any of your 90s impersonations not involve an orgasm? Or Quint getting eaten by a shark? Let's take a break and we'll do rewatchable scenes.

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I don't have a rewatchable scene for this movie until the 26 minute mark. And the second and third force of this movie, basically an hour, is one of the best middles of a movie. The middle of the second act of this movie. And the beginning of the end of this movie aren't quite as good, but I think that it really throws a good like third to seventh inning is just elite. And that's where I had most of the scenes. But the first one I have is Ramon goes to see Dennis at the taco stand.

Raymond. I call him Ramon too. He's Ramon Raymond. Okay. I mean, he did both. I mean, maybe because I don't know. He's introduced both ways. I know because I think there's, you know, with his homies and his family, he's the Latin. I was trying to show Ramon some respect. Okay. Ramon Raymond. I'll do Raymond from now on because he is called Raymond more. But that's when Peck does the, you want to fuck around?

So first of all, I want to ask a couple of things about this scene. If somebody says to you, does your wife fuck around?

What's the proper response? No, I wasn't going to ask that, but that's, I guess, a great prompt. I just don't know what the answer is. What answer is the right answer for that? Just blind rage. You were just walking the opposite direction. Yeah, just blind rage. Just walking away, right? Because the question itself is so emasculating. It's just like a conversation ender. Well, to be fair, Raymond starts it. Like, Raymond's kind of like, let's talk about...

Oh, you fucking, yeah, Raymond has suspicions. It's actually above the risk of violence. He's like, hey man, as friends, let's talk about our friend in common. I think Penny might be sleeping around and that's driving him to cocaine and insanity. But Raymond in that scene, I think is insinuating that,

that oh he's definitely fucking with him yeah and then he's like you're gonna fuck with me watch let let's fuck around yeah right and he's like this is what happens and then i would like to introduce a new award to the rewatchables oh wow which is the once upon in time in hollywood rick dalton award for the best acting i've ever seen in my life and it's richard gear in this scene it's richard gear being like i'm married you're married we're married

Do you want to fuck around? Doesn't feel good, does it? It's fucking incredible. He is out of his mind in this scene. Little things with the hand. He's got his... He's drinking the... The two prostitutes behind him. Caught behind him. Perfectly framed. He looks away. He's drinking a small coffee. Yeah. He drinks the small coffee. He's doing this. And he's like...

It's intimate the way he's fucking with him. As a friend. As a friend. As a friend. He's drawing him in. You know how in Training Day, when Alonzo asked... What's Ethan Hawke's character? Jake. When Alonzo asked Jake, he's like, you and your white eye. I bet you still fuck her face to face. It's so obvious that he is...

pulling a power move on him. In this scene, you're thinking, I know he's fucking with him, but is he also trying to give him good advice? And get him laid. And get him laid. The manipulation is so top tier that it's fantastic. Gear does this move, and he does it in other movies, where he gets super close to who he's talking to, male or female, and he keeps the eye contact all the time. He's very intense. He's always good for the two-shot.

But he does it in this movie, and Garcia, he was doing the look away, and he comes back. He's so great. He's just like, this guy is shorting out my frequencies here. I can't handle the eye contact. You know what? That's probably because he actually really doesn't like him. I know. I know. They're all looking for strange, just like you and me. I don't care if it's your wife, my wife, his wife. They're all looking for strange. Tell you what about Wives, my vast, extensive experience with Wives.

They're all looking for strange, just like you and me. I don't care if it's your wife, his wife, my wife. It's all the same. You're looking for strange. At least you're looking. You see a pretty girl, you look. All right?

crazy, wearing the t-shirt. It kind of makes you go, wait, are they all looking for strangers? But it's also like he sets up the reality of this movie, which is that every single person is looking to fuck around professionally or sexually behind each other's backs. Yeah. So you can't trust anybody and whatever they're doing. And the reason why- The law of Peck. The law of Peck. The reason why that might be the first rewatchable scene is because up until that point, they do a good job of making you a little unsure

It just seems like a typical police movie where it's like, oh, this stuff's happening. There's going to be a band of LA cops that are a little dirty and then they're going to take him down. But Dennis Peck also, up to that point, has looked out for people. You see the way he operates. When he gets the guy... He comes over to Van and he breaks up the fight with him and his wife. Breaks up the fight with him and then, hey, I'm going to make sure that this guy works for you and send you to the Raider game with your kid. You're like, this guy's kind of the father figure to the whole thing. What's his real deal?

Second scene. I mean, the movie's cooking now. Dennis goes to have a drink with the Irokas. Jesus Christ. Bro, this scene is so fucking nuts, dog.

Immediately puts his hand on Tova Orokos' thigh. And she's like, she's electrocharged like she hasn't been in her whole life. This guy put her hand on like... John Capello's is perfectly cast. The fact that he can't get the waiter is amazing. He's like, oh, one second. I'll just go get you a drink. He's like, we've made contact. He's like making jokes that he's got his hand up his wife's throat. He's sweaty and weird. I want you to kill my mother and father.

Okay. Now we're going. Meanwhile, I don't know what's going on under the table. He's finger blasting his wife. Well, they don't give the one extra scene of like. Of him doing it. But she's so moved. She's starting to do. She's so moved. It's not like she's watching Field of Dreams. No, she's moved. He's moving her. She is aroused. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. The thing about that is, this is why I always think about characters like that.

The most important thing is, what if that goes wrong? Do you know how fucking confident? Do you know how fucking- But he clocks that dude the second he walks in. He's like, this guy is nothing. That is such a big part of the character. Like, he goes down there. He doesn't know this guy. He's fucking with his wife under the table the amount of times that's had to go right. Do you think the guy knows?

I don't think he knows. But he's dead because he's already been like, kill my parents. And so here's like, I already have you like, and when gear does the like, yeah, yeah, I can do it for 15. We'll just get some gangbangers to do it and like chop their heads off. And then I'm going to leave your driver's license somewhere. You know what I mean? Like,

And it's like, he's basically like, I own you now. That's the thing. For him, this is a complete power play. So he's not going to take the money the guy's offered. He has this big secret on him. And now he's also taking his life. It's the same thing he has with Dorian. And the same thing he has with Van Stretch. Right. So with Dorian, he's like, we're going to put this crime scene so that you, this is a justifiable shooting. And now I own you. Right. And now I own Van. And now I own this guy. And now I'm trying to own Raymond. It's amazing.

Of course you can trust me. I'm a cop. Next rewatchable scene, the second Dennis Raymond scene, when he's just trying to get Garcia to punch him. Sometimes I come on a little strong. Make up. Hey, man. Let's talk about new couples. Everything's in a hurry, such a hurry. You don't enjoy the pussy anymore. You start wondering. And then he does the... He starts talking about the wife and says she's a little too skinny. The skinny ones give good head. Pow! Bam! Boom! And then the...

He crosses some lines. Craig, just play the clip. I'm not saying some of the stuff he says.

That scene's incredible. So you think Gears better in the first scene than that scene? It's just, it's more subtle. Like, the fact that it comes out of nowhere. Because in the first scene with Raymond and Dennis, you're like, oh, maybe Dennis is leveling with this guy. They're going to kind of have this moment of calm before it goes wrong. And he just completely is like,

you know, oh, just as friends. Like, it's just so note perfect. The first scene, he's testing him in a very, very specific way. Like, even with, you know, offering him the girl, he's testing him out. And now he knows how far he has to go to break him. That's probably just a tougher scene to play. The second scene is, I'm going to get this guy to punch me a couple of times. In front of City Hall. In front of City Hall. It's part of the manipulations.

Well, speaking of manipulation, next scene, it's a quickie. Van calls his wife to tell her that he's going to play ball with Andy and our crew. And the camera pans back and she's riding Dennis Peck. This was in the movie theater. Got a gasp from people in the theater. It got a gasp like Thursday night when I was watching it. It was an absolute shocking reveal. Oh, no! Yeah. And... It's like one of the...

It's really sad, too. You're just like, nobody's even enjoying this. And it looks like... It almost looks like Van Stretcher's wife is sad. Everybody, yeah. Yeah, it's like sad. I've seen this scene many times before. She's sad and happy. Different types of cinema. But, like, in this... On the Apple Vision Pro. Van was like... Right. But, like, it's...

Even in that type of cinema, it's still debilitating when you see it. It's like, damn. See the Westerns? I've seen it. It's like, ah, I thought you liked Van Stretch. What are you doing, Dennis Peck? Right. Just can't resist. I have the Dennis gets Van killed and then kills the killer is a great twist. And then kills Van for sure. So you see, he's going in the van. You're like, oh man, I don't like how this looks for Van Stretch. And then they start to open the door.

And gear takes the step back. It's awesome. It just moves to the side. Just moves to the side. And you're like, oh, no, this isn't. And it's one of the better shotgun blasts. It's a little bit like throwback to Peckinpah when guys used to fly across the room. Yeah. Slow-mo. I like it. And then we get the twist of the van starting up, driving away. He's got to kill him. And then you get the really heart-wrenching, like, I'm not dead.

And I got to get back home to my kid. And he just fucking because the first thing you see from Van Stretch is him being like an abusive prick piece of shit. But by the time this movie ends him, he is a completely, completely vulnerable and character that you empathize with, you know?

It's a really good scene. It's a good action scene. There's another action scene with the big shootout with the other van shoot. That just keeps going and going. There's a chase. That's solid. And then, man, the jealousy scene. Peck having lunch with...

And that's when this sort of turns into the rear window a little bit, right? Or vertigo or something where it's like this guy has now become completely consumed by jealousy and his sexual inadequacy rather than the case. So this is all tied together. The lunch scene where he's on the street freaking out. Can't figure out where his wife is the rest of the day. Goes into the office, comes down, elevator opens, and Peck headbutts him.

and really said some inappropriate things that I'm also not going to say in the pod. Yeah, I was so hoping that you would give us... Craig's going to have to play this too. I have it in my notes as Bill to give a dramatic reading of what he tells him. Drove her crazy. She liked it in the ass, Raymond. That's right. Right in the fucking ass. Drove her crazy. She came so much. I thought she was going to pass out on me.

Drove him crazy. He's going to do it as Tony Romo in a little bit. Drove him crazy, Jim. Let's have Wayne Jenkins do it. I think even Wayne is like, damn, these are some dirty cars. I got to sit this one out. Goddamn. Then he gives them at the end after he

says a lot of uh inappropriate things and punches him and headbutts him you know what they say about latin fighters raymond you know what they say too fucking macho yeah that's right too fucking macho they don't backpedal when they have to they're used up young and throws his wife's panties at her dennis peck was going for it nuts and then the wife is so uh flustered later she's like

You came into the thing and cursed me out and beat me up and threw a pair of my panties at me. And I'm like, yo, man, you haven't seen what this motherfucker. You don't know what's been happening to him. What, uh, what do you have for most rewatchable? Chris? I have, I have when they first meet outside of the burger joint and

and he's like, you're married, I'm married, we're all married. Like that mesmerizing scene. You know, I have the elevator fight just because it's almost like a horror movie scene. Yeah. Are you like, is he going to kill him? Yeah, he's going to die right here. I like it. Peck has been like taking punches a lot and being like, oh yeah, right, I can't fight. And you're like, oh, this guy kicks ass. He is dangerous. Yeah. I have that whole stretch. The jealousy scene all the way through the elevator fight I have.

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Just as a movie device only, dirty cops planning evidence is always great. Yeah. Just as a gimmick where it's like, oh, you're going to put the knife in the sand? And these are the last of the great old, good old days where there was no CCTV cameras, no iPhones. Guys could just be like, yeah, let's just get this switchblade in a guy's hand. Yeah, throw this...

Now you'd at least be looking around and seeing are there cameras. Yeah. You remember we left out a Dirty Cop movie. I guess it's a Dirty Cop movie. L.A. Confidential? Is that like a thing? Yeah. That counts. Yeah. So like even in L.A. Confidential when Russell Crowe just walks in and executes that guy. It's not funny. I'm just laughing. I know it's not funny but it is. I forgot about that scene. It is kind of funny. He just walks in and just fucking kills the guy. And then just

It automatically puts the gun in his hand for the whole deal. And they're like, you're promoted. And they give him the whole thing. So it's kind of the same way at the beginning of this movie. And that kind of is something that you see over and over again. I like when a movie does this, Boston's own Michael Beach, when he gets him promoted to homicide. And then Andy Garcia is trying to pump him for info. And he's like...

That's just what he would do. You're just like Dennis, man. I like the movies where the good guy goes to the dark side. Is becoming the bad guy. Yeah. Always works. Yeah, absolutely. What do you got for what stage is the best? I feel like most contemporary menswear is basically what these dudes wear off-duty. Oh. Okay. The Richard Gere polo tucked into the collar, tucked in, the collar popped. Good pair of sunglasses. And I just, the double, the double award of like,

when directors do their own music. So Mike Figgis was like, I got this. Like jumps in. And then Mike Figgis is the dude Nancy Travis is having dinner with in the restaurant. Oh, I missed that too. So I was just like, this is just a great, like Figgis is like making sure he gets his shots up. That's great. I didn't know that's what he looked like. Do you know what I have with Asia's Best? Yeah. LA as a cop movie background. Oh my God. Just driving around. Also, like,

It just seems like much less traffic because I was doing some mapping for this movie. And I was like, man, these guys are getting from Long Beach to Granada Hills. Fucking they went from, they were, I know exactly where they were. And then they end up on Sherman Way. I'm like, that took a while to get to where I was. But I guess they are doing the night shift. So maybe traffic wasn't as bad. I had a similar thing. I thought they made LA feel like Miami in this movie. Mm-hmm.

It's very happy. The sun's out. It's very diverse and vibrant. You're wearing a blue sweater. Yeah, it's 64. You feel like you're almost in South Beach. I had the Garcia and Gear haircuts from very early 90s. It's crazy.

Garcia especially, it's almost like the flat top. Yeah. Brandon Walsh eventually would take it to another level on 90210. And then gear, I just like how his hair looks in this movie. Like, it just, it looks styled. It ties in with the fact that he's this good looking guy who can fuck everyone's way. He looks like the cop who can fuck. Yeah. Like, it's a cop haircut, but a cop who can fuck. So,

Laurie Metcalf's awesome in this movie. Incredible. We probably should have mentioned her sooner, but she's not, you know, it's like kind of not a great part. Yeah, but she's awesome. Every scene. She's good. She really clicks with Garcia. Like I have a feel for her. I'm sad when she gets shot at the end. And then, uh, I think she's good with, uh, Garcia. I like the line. How was your day? I got a racist boss, small desk and a new partner. That was his answer.

What about when Billy Baldwin is complaining to Dennis Peck and he goes, she's on somebody else's route. Yeah. Bruh. I've never heard of that. Have you heard route before? No. She's on somebody else's route. Penis euphemism? Right. And he didn't even know she was on his route. He was rooting his wife. Also, where that conversation takes place is in this unfinished discussion.

Granada Hills. Granada Hills development. Yeah. They've got like the third house where there's, and it's still just dirt hills. Yeah. In the background. That's great. You know what? That's underrated. Because when you think about, I guess it's Lethal Weapon 3, they're still building the thing. And then the other Lethal Weapon, they're building all of these new. Oh, construction and action crime movies. Yeah. But also just how the cops hide their money. Like where it's just like, how the hell are they like,

And when they go through what Van makes and what Penny makes. Right. And they're talking about the fact that, oh, he makes $38,000. They live in Granada Hills. Altogether, they make $80,000. They bought a $400,000 house, which show me what that fucking neighborhood is. This is all pre-internet. Post-internet, I think they're just plugging in the cop and all his holdings come up. They're like, wait, that doesn't add up. Yeah, then they go to Redfin and look at their house. Van Stretch's wife was played by Faye Grant, who's bounced around and been in a bunch of stuff. But I always liked her. I think she's good in this movie.

I don't know what else. I haven't seen anything. She was a big TV actress. She was in one of the procedurals. I like the married couple arguments in this movie with Garcia, like the tension, how she's sizing him up and kind of intimating. We had sex a little bit more often in all these different ways. They just have a good chemistry of her being sexually frustrated and him being work obsessed. The movie does a good job making his character

look like a pencil dick until he becomes obsessed. Yeah. And until he becomes basically Dennis Peck. Until he becomes him. Yeah. Some lessons there. How about what's aged the best? Just a great model of co-parenting. You know? Sometimes you gotta make it work. With your eight kids. With lollies just bouncing around. With your ex-wife that you still fuck every now and again. Just... Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't care. It's part of the alimony. Right. I like when...

Dirty cops say, she's my snitch, man. What do you want me to do? And the fact that they changed the original ending is what staged the best. Because the original ending. It sounds pretty convoluted. Yeah. He's in there longer. He seems like there's going to be some sort of sexual assault. Andy Garcia comes in. He gets shot. They end up going out the window, falling in the swimming pool. Peck drowns.

It seems like he drowned, but then he didn't. And it just did not work. And the test audiences hated it. My last What's Aged the Best, I was going to save this for later, but just Xander Berkeley as Rudy, the mall guy. Oh, I love that guy. And just the idea that all these cops have to have second jobs at mall security. I guess that's the Glendale Galleria or Sherman Oaks. I don't even know what gallery it would be. One of the best second jobs. Yeah. And...

him just being like, you guys just go into the bathroom and do coke. And the cops are all on coke. Yeah. And they got to work at the mall. Yeah. And hold on. It's not a very pro cop. Yeah. Being a cop is a great type of movie. No, it's like you make 38 grand a year and you have to work in Glendale. Right. Yeah, for Rudy. What was the cop movie with Jamie Lee Curtis? Blue Steel? Blue Steel, yeah. That's a dirty cop movie, right? No. No? In Blue Steel...

Isn't she... I thought... Somebody's dirty in that movie. Isn't she after a serial killer, though? I thought somebody's dirty in that. It is a serial killer. Yeah, she's after Ron Silver. My guy, Ron Silver. Yeah, isn't that... I love that movie. I interviewed Ron Silver at the Ali Junket in 2001.

And you had 10 minutes with every actor and actress. And I started out with Ron Silver about how much I love silent rage. We bonded. And I was like, he's never forgot. I was like, I'm a huge silent rage guy. And he goes, the guy who wouldn't die. And we were just, we clicked for 10 minutes. It was great. Uh, kid Cuddy pursued to happen. It's a word.

Best needle drop. Whatever music is going on with drunk, angry Andy Garcia when he's kind of zoning in and out. Oh, when he's drinking the Cuervo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that whole... Do you know something better? I had the music that drops when the pimp watches Dorian arrest his girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like this Jimmy Jam and Jerry Lewis song comes on. It's like... And then it goes back to the pimp and he's got like the bald head with a futuristic glass. Yeah. The Big Kahuna Burger Award for best use of food and drink.

What do you have for this? I just have all the Styrofoam cup drinking. Yeah. Styrofoam cup coffee. I had the big Pepsis when they're both checking out the girl that walks by and he realizes, oh,

Den of Thieves, Benihana Ward, scene stealing location. La Pantorosa? I think it's said. It's a long name. The club? Yeah, the club. Because they come out. He comes out. He stumbles out in the morning. It's a wide shot. I was like, that place looks cool. Not the Arocus Malibu place? No, that was a good one. That was a good one, too. The establishing shot from outside the house.

What'd you have for a great shot, Gordo? I had Peck choking out Van as the ambulance arrived. So you can kind of see it in the background getting closer. And you can see like the reflection of the sirens in the side door. It's really, it's cool. I like the shot of behind when he has his hand on the wife's leg and the camera's behind them. So you can see both of them. But Carl, the janitor is between them. Yeah.

And he's kind of knows Makona. Just that shot. Carl. He's like, maybe the kids haven't changed. Maybe you've changed. So this might be too on brand for me, but I have to give the best shot to the camera pull back to the wife being on top of Dennis. Just because that was a great shot. Yeah. Like I have to, because it seems like she's on the phone, but you're like, why is she kind of wincing? Broke Kalika.

Kalika got up and said, I can't look. She left. She walked out. She was like, because she saw Richard Gere and Richard Gere has a thing with the black ladies.

My mama loved Richard Gere. My grandmother loved Richard Gere. It's all ladies. I think it's all colors. And so she's like, oh, you're watching the Richard Gere movie? I was like, yes. She was watching it. She's like, you're kind of sleazy in this. And then she sees that. She's like, uh-uh. That's all she said. She walked to the back. She's like, you can watch this on Vision Pro. Yeah, exactly.

The Vincent Chase Award for Are We Sure This Character was actually good at his or her job. What do you have for this year? Is Raymond a good internal affairs officer? I don't think he is. I think he sucks. He's like three weeks on the job, goes completely rogue, beating up cops outside of City Hall, and chasing them all and stalking his own wife, frankly. What do you think his dev talk was like for the first three months? We see a lot of room for growth. A lot of potential, but you know.

did start a fight with your wife in a crowded restaurant. He like killed a couple of people. He's like, I want to investigate this pic. They're like, nah, fuck you. And he's like, all right, I'm going to do it anyway. I'm going to do it anyway. Pull all his financials. I zagged on this. I have Raymond's wife. As an art dealer? Art person. Are we sure this character is actually good at her job? Not just the art dealer, but like,

I'm sorry. Like, my husband is freaking out about some case that he has. Well, I think Raymond keeps it all inside, though. But some random person's like, we got to talk about Raymond. She doesn't tell him. It's not random. This is a coworker.

doesn't say anything so somebody at Spotify could call my wife and be like we gotta talk about Bill my wife's like okay we'll go to lunch right now and I won't tell him like I'd be so mad if I would you'd fucking tell him I wanted to hit that anyway that's fucking insane how does she not tell him immediately it's true

Hey, some dude called from your office. Do you know? This got this fucking ridiculously hot guy. I feel like he dropped by. And I also think that it's ridiculous. The assistant in the art in the gallery when she's like, yeah, she's not here. She went to lunch and went shopping. It sounds like she does that often. Now that you say that, she said she's not here. She went to lunch and

And she went shopping. Then he goes, what time is she going to be back? She might not come back. Right. Which is fucking with him because he's like, he's making 38K a year. So I don't know what that gallery. They did not have life 360 back then. He couldn't track her on the phone. The Butch's girlfriend award for weak link of the film. It's really tough to recover from him hitting his wife in a crowded restaurant. In 1990, it was tough. Now it's like, I think also the fact that it's horrible. The next,

they have, they go wild for each other as if that was all part of the magic recipe. If you talk to anybody again, I'll kill you. I'll kill you. It's like, this guy's fucking lost his mind. So this is, we, this is part of the thing that's aged the worst. This,

aggressive, toxic maleness that resolves anything by the man's unyielding desire for the woman. Meaning if you really love her, if you're really obsessed with her, anything that you do is cool. That used to be a huge, huge trope in movies. And obviously, we've kind of... You have to fight for her and actually fight her. Right. You know what I mean? Obviously, we've disintegrated that, right? Yeah.

We'll be back on slate.com after this. What's, what's, uh, what's aged the worst? I have one. Right. You got right off the rip pack, taking away that cops Raiders tickets. That guy was about to go see Bo Jackson. Oh, wow.

That's 89, man. Wow. That's Jay Schroeder quarterbacking. Iconic Tecmo Bowl team. Yeah. Iconic Tecmo Bowl team. Jesus. That's Shani into Art Shell. Oh, man. That's crazy. That guy could have seen Pete Bo. Yeah. He might have seen like a top three Bo Jackson game. And he's like, oh, no, we'll give it to Tropicante and his kid. He's like, what the fuck? And now he has to go work at the mall. And then some guy is going to come in in a Raiders jacket and just be like, man, Bo Jackson's

That's a great one. Nancy Travis is like, why is she with this guy? I was going to say for recasting. It's like, why are you two together? What if, is this movie better if Annabelle Shiora and Nancy Travis swap roles? Oh,

Wow. That's a good one. That's a really good one. You know what I mean? She feels like she has an extra gear. I think the movie's a lot better. You know why? That's a really good one. Because there's this whole...

dark Italian slash Latin thing that goes on. It others them a little bit more. There's more of a contrast with Dennis Peck. I think that's a, yeah. She can make him a pot roast and throw it at him. Like she did to Tony. Slashes tires. Yeah. That's a really good call, CR. I like that. I also have old police computers with the green type. Anytime you see those in the movie, you're like, how did people even read computers back then? Jumping Jack Flash.

So Ramone goes to his cousin's club. You're sticking with Ramone. I love it. Well, he's Ramone in this thing because he's going to the club and he puts the word out for the driver.

And this is one of these. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of these. The sync should have been like five minutes and awesome. Like what's going on in this world? What's your cousin's club like? They get it over in like 40 seconds. It's like, all right, we talked to my cousin. This is also a part of the movie where Amy is supposed to be this like veteran by the book IAD person.

and she just like completely lets Ray run the show. And basically turn into like Serpico. Yeah. Right. Well, that's another thing. Like he, there's a scene where he pushes her up against, or she's up against the wall and she's telling him that like, you know, I'm your, I'm like your senior officer. Yeah. That's pretty sexually charged as well. He asserts his power over her and that scene is almost sexual. You think that something is going to happen, you know?

But it's his maleness. By the way, I forgot something that aged the best real quick. Just real quick. A little latitude. Cuck holding has aged. Oh, it's just like a theme. As a theme. Like, cuck. It's way better known now. It's much better known now. Yeah. I didn't even know what it was called back then. Right. I didn't. Now there's genres. There's different. It exists in a way. There's genres. This created the cuck thriller. Cuck thriller.

The Cuck from Hell. The Cuck from Hell. Yeah. See, we should... That's Ringer Films. Cuck from Hell. Yeah. Call Cord. See? Cord's up now, right? The Academy Award winning screenwriter Cord Jefferson. And the Cuck from Hell. Cuck Cop. A guy named Raymond Ramone. I put this in for what's the worst. Cuck Cop. See, if it was the 90s, we could probably get that made. Yeah.

I put this in for Van. Where's the Ramon boxing scene? Where he's just fucking around boxing? I would say, they talk about he's a boxer. Where's the one of him training? Dennis Pett boxing analyst is also age the worst. I don't think he would really have much of a career. Right. But doesn't you want to see him like just in the gym? It would have been somebody saying like, man, you could have been gold gloves. Yeah. It would have been a good scene because it would have given him a little bit more, oh, like this guy's kind of a badass as well. You know what I mean?

We needed it. Last one is just this movie's attitude toward domestic violence. It's reprehensible. Everyone in the movie gets abused. My only... I can't decide if this is actually the worst or...

There has to be a middle ground for this, but it's the Andy Garcia, I'm so mad I'm laughing face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where like when she confronts him, when he's like, when she confronts him when he's eating Chinese food and working, he's like, oh yeah, you're mad at me. You're mad at me. I'm going to do what I want to do. And it's just like, why are you laughing at her? This is like,

Vincent does that. Yeah. Vincent had Joey's like, ha ha ha, fuck you. Michael, tell him one time, one time, tell him one time. But he has that like, I'm pissed off so I'm laughing thing, which I like, but I also don't know if it always works. Because if I was Nancy Travis, I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you laughing? I might have to add Ramon Raymond into the, is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins and Harley Mayo? Ramon Raymond. Let's take a break.

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for this movie i mean are you good with internal affairs great one what do you think about calling it too macho that's too i think i got a good one i i was texting my dad who's a former police officer about internal affairs and he said that they called it the rat squad oh that's a great name that's a great way better i like that and then maybe you get the departed rat in there yeah pretty good rat squad's good your dad was anti

Accountability, huh? He was pro-IA. He was like, maybe the larger LAPD departments didn't like IA, but he said at his department they had no issue with IA. I didn't know you were from here. I'm from the Bay. He was like, maybe at these larger departments people didn't like IA, but where he worked, he was like, they were fine. It was also a rotation. You would only do it for like four years. Yeah, because I think the implication is that he's doing this to get a promotion. They said that you get promoted. Yeah.

What do you have for Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award, Chris? It's funny you should ask because I've actually thrown a little curveball here. Because instead of the Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award, I have the John Hollinger Advanced Analytics Award. Oh, wow. For Dennis Peck's murders versus wives fucked ratio. So I counted him...

Directly being responsible for 11 dead people in this movie from covers up Dorian shooting, kills Van, kills Van's killer, has Steven Orocus's parents killed. That's five. Facilitates or participates in the double homicide of Steven and Tova Orocus at the end of Malibu. Probably calls SWAT on Avia's bust eight, nine, and 10 because three guys die in the shootout there. And then might have killed Amy. We don't know if she makes it through at the end. So that's 11. So it's 10 and a half. And then sex...

He has eight kids with a ninth on the way. Four ex-wives. Is still sexually active with one ex along with his current wife, Heather. Also beds Van's wife before killing Van. Stephen Orokos' wife before killing both of them. And graphically describes sodomizing Raymond's wife to Raymond. He also runs prostitutes out of a burger joint. So that's five. So 11 to 5 ratio. So like 2.2? Yeah.

Who's he competing against in the all-time standings? Of murders versus sex? Tony Soprano's up there. Nicholson and the Departed? Yeah. That's pretty good. Do you have a Stephen A. Smith? Do you have one? You want to go? No, I mean, I can go. Internal affairs, a cooler job than it gets credit for in movies. In movies, it's always like the shit job. But there's never been a movie that's made it seem like, oh, this is actually, these people are doing some good.

There's some dirty cops. We're going to try to fix what's going on here. And these are actually the good guys. But in movies, there's always like an edge to it where it's like the people that are doing it. You don't instinctively want to root for them as the movie viewer. For some reason, the psychology of it is I'm actually rooting for Dennis Peck. Yeah. Who's a fucking horrible guy. That's because of how...

effective copaganda is. The cops are the heroes in every movie. It's true. It's like a Jedi mind trick. I should be rooting for the internal affairs guys. The guys who are trying to hold the cops back from doing what they need to do. Right. So it's like, I need to blow some shit up. They're like the hall monitors. Yeah, exactly. By the way, let me tell you something real quick. I don't give a fuck what fucking area of life that you're talking about. Nobody likes a snitch.

The street don't like a snitch. The cops don't like a snitch. The mob don't like a snitch. The army doesn't like a snitch. But do you consider internal affairs officers snitches? I don't, but the cops in these movies do. Right, right. You're one of us, man. Because they're like cops that went sideways, basically. Even for me, it's like,

like network procedurals, you'll see like on Law and Order SVU, they'll be like, that fucking IA guy is here. Like, it's like, this is a, I'm just watching it. Remember in another 48 Hours? Oh yeah. The bad guy seems like it's the internal affairs guy. That's right. Meanwhile, he's investigating Jack Cates who is like just completely corrupt. A fucking lunatic. And it's like, why is this guy the bad guy? What do you have? This movie didn't need any more black people. It is the only movie that I've ever watched

that doesn't have a lot of black people that I was like this movie actively doesn't need more black people. It probably didn't need the black people that it had in it. We need to make did this movie need more black people as a category. As a category. I just don't. This movie didn't need any. No, only for you and me. Like in Risky Business we should just be like Risky Business maybe. This movie maybe.

No more black people. We don't want to have any part in what's going on. There's some representation in this movie, though. There's not. There are people in it. Don't get me wrong. Michael Beach and his career was in the whole thing. I felt so bad for him. He had to deal with all of this crazy shit from these white people going on in this movie. I felt like he was... This movie didn't need any more. It was a perfect amount. That's an automatic category for every watch post you do. This movie didn't need any more black... I'm with it. I can't wait for the Star Wars episode. I can't wait until we do Braveheart. Hey.

I've always thought Braveheart could have used one dude. Like Morgan Freeman, Robin Hood kind of situation. I love Braveheart. I don't care what anybody says. Casting what ifs. Speaking of Nick Nolte, our guy Nick Nolte was offered the role of Dennis Peck, turned it down to do another 48 hours. Well, he was sexiest man of the year one time. This has to be geared. Right. You can't do it, right? This is arguably, the research on this one suggests this was up

every actor in Hollywood was up for it. I almost didn't trust the research because it only said 20 white actors from 1990. I'll just read it off. Alec Baldwin, Tom Berenger, Jeff Bridges, Pierce Brosnan, Kevin Costner, Willem Dafoe, De Niro, Michael Douglas, Harrison Ford, which is the one that I would nominate.

I would be so great. Mel Gibson, a little on the nose. Jeff Goldblum, Ed Harris, William Hurt, Don Johnson, Tommy Lee Jones, Michael Keaton, Nick Nolte, Al Pacino, Christopher Reeve, Kurt Russell, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So let me give you my three from those. I think Don Johnson could have done that role. That's my three. So my three from that is, oddly enough,

Christopher Reeve. So let me tell you why. I know, yeah. So oddly enough, Christopher Reeve, great. I don't know if he has the swarminess, but to see him do it would have been fucking fantastic. And the fact that he decided to do Superman 4 is obscene. Don Johnson is almost as good of a character. He's kind of played this guy. Him and Gear were...

In the same kind of corner for a while there. Yeah, Don Johnson, I don't know if he has quite the chops, but he... The hot spot. Yeah, but he'd have been right there. He'd have been right there. Who's your third guy? You just gave us two. I fucking lost it. I had it, although, read the names again? I mean, it's a long list. Oh, fuck it then. Just thought experiment. 1990 Denzel as Dennis Peck?

That's a totally different movie. It's a big, it's called Training Day. Yeah. It really is. But like, bro, think about the articles. Yeah. That come out. The movie looks so different. Yeah. See, that's the movie that should be made now. Honestly, I think Denzel could have played that part though. He definitely could have. Yeah. I like when Denzel got a little dirty Denzel. Yeah.

Rafaela Hannah Rubin at Partridge Overacting Award. They knew and they let it happen. Don't you call me lady. I come in here. I give these things to you. Give me all you got. Give me all you got. I treated you like a son. You fucking stabbed me in the heart. Fuck you. Fuck you. Raymond and Kathleen's fight like the day after. They're just screaming at each other. Yeah.

Yes, yes, that's him! Why'd you lie to me? Why'd you lie to me? This guy comes into the museum and he tells me that you're in trouble. I know that you're in trouble. Why'd you lie to me? This guy tells me there's something wrong and you're not telling me jack shit. I was worried about you. I don't know what's...

Best that guy award. Harrison Ford was the other one. Harrison Ford. Yeah, Harrison Ford. Because he never played a role like that. This movie has so many that guys and that girls, including Carl the Janitor. John Capello's, yeah. Is he John Capello's or is he Carl the Janitor? I think most people would recognize him as Carl the Janitor, but he's been in so much stuff.

Breakfast Club, a movie with no black people. No black people. They need any. Zero. Is Michael Beach that guy? I don't think so. I don't think so either. I think he's Michael Beach. He's Boston's Michael Beach. And I think Xander Berkley is Xander Berkley. You think Xander Berkley is Xander Berkley? I mean, he's fucking Ralph from Heat. Who? Alan Havy is... I know him as Alan Havy, but I think he's that guy from us. Marco Rodriguez, the guy who plays Demetrio in this movie. The cousin that was also in Bad Boys.

Well, there's that's it. No, you're talking about cousin Gregory. I'm talking about the guy gets shot when they do the SWAT team shows up and he gets sniped. That's why like that guy's that's a super that guy. Well, there's two that guys Ron Votter who we did in Philadelphia. Um,

And the guy with the crazy white hair, I don't even know that guy's name, who's like the lieutenant. Oh, the dude who does like the Sig Heil to Andy Walsh? Yeah, he is in The Untouchables with Andy Walsh. He's one of those guys. That's right. And then Jack McKay's fiance from season three of 90210 is in the art gallery with Nancy Travis. That's all I got. I have Carl the Janitor. I still feel like he's Carl the Janitor. That's my winner. I had, well, two, the Latino actor that gets shot with that guy. Marco Rodriguez. Yeah. And then...

The guy who was also in Bad Boys that plays his cousin in the bar. Oh, that's... Oh, that guy. Yeah. He's a... I don't even know what that guy's name is. Yeah. What did Jack McKay do? Jack McKay was Dylan McKay's dad. I know, but what did he do? He was like... Why was he so rich? He was in jail for high finance, like Ivan Boski stuff. Oh. Because Dylan was the richest one. Right. Yeah. Low key. Low key. Yeah. Dion Waiters. I can give you Peck's ex-wife.

That's Lolly. That's the only name I have written down and it's in all caps. I have Mrs. Orocus and I think Van Stretch's wife was in it too much and doesn't count. Lolly just being like, yeah, sure, let's go into the bedroom. Van Stretch's wife. Ex-wife, okay. Recasting couch. See, I already nailed it. Yeah.

Would this movie have been better with Tony Romo or Chris Collinsworth for the director's commentary? This is clearly Romo. There's just no way it's that. You're over crazy, Jim! I'm not even gonna do it. He's trying to cuck him, Jim! He's turning into a cuck! Or when the Garcia, when he loses it.

What was the name of that place he went to? La Pantaloza or whatever. La Pantaloza. La Pantaloza, Jim. Half-assed internet research. So there's a deleted scene, which none of the deleted scenes are on the YouTubes, but there's a conversation. There's another Raymond and Peck scene. They're in a bar drinking and talking about how people want to be bad.

And cops want to be bad worst of all and the snitch is strip teasing. Oh, okay. And they cut it. I think they thought they were good on the Peck-Raymond scenes. I'm not sure they were. I think I would have taken that scene. I would have liked a little bit more. It depends on where in the movie. So that goes in between. Probably between one and three. Is that after he's beaten him up outside of City Hall though? I think it's before he beats him up. It would have to be before. Yeah. Yeah.

The car that Dennis drives in the film, a 1963 Chevrolet Stingray. The Volkswagen that Amy has, yeah. LAPD chief at the time, Daryl Gates, condemned this movie. Yeah, that's the least of his worries. This motherfucker. Wasn't a fan. He didn't like it. Didn't like it. The worst police chief man. I put that on the poster. Send his biography. Not a fan of internal affairs.

This is weird. This is a little bit of a downer, but, uh, fake grant was married to Stephen Collins, the actor. Oh God. And then he was the one that there was a whole thing where it turned out he was accused of sexual abuse of children and she got caught up in that whole thing and they got divorced and he never acted again. Weird. That's my last half-assed internet research. We're going to apex mountain.

Richard Gere. It is. It is, right? It's 1990. It is. This is a conversation. Pretty Woman is Richard Gere's apex. But it's the same year. Same year. He did Internal Affairs and Pretty Woman in 1990. So you're saying his moment is his apex. Yeah, he's it. It's the hottest it's ever been. Garcia?

This and Godfather. Godfather 3 is the same year, though. Yeah, let's do it. Just real quick. What are the signature Andy Garcia roles? To me, it's Untouchables. Untouchables. Godfather 3. Black Rain. Ocean's Eleven. Black Rain. Ocean's Eleven. When a Man Loves a Woman. Oh, yeah. When a Man Loves a Woman is a good movie. You're drinking is tearing us apart. Billy Baldwin. Nah, backdraft.

Backdraft was him and his... I think it might be Thief of Hearts. Like, they built the thing around Billy Baldwin and the Sting song. I saw that movie in the theater. I have one. Just hear me out. Is there a world in which this is Apex Mountain for the valley, and in fact, it's not Boogie Nights or Magnolia? There's a lot of different valleys. It's a different side of the valley. Makes you want to live in the valley when you see it. A lot of it... A lot of land. A lot of land.

A lot of it makes the valley look cool and wild. It's very LA Valley. You don't get how hot it is in some of the places there. Dirty LA cops before the worm turned? It's somewhere between here and colors. And then all of a sudden... Yeah, I mean, Onion Field, right? Isn't that LA? Yeah. There's Joseph Wambaugh books and stuff like that. That's a good one. James Elroy books. I like to say LA Confidential. Internal Affairs? Is there a better IAD movie?

There's not another movie where Eternal Affairs is this prominent in the film. How about Moonlighting as a hitman? Cop. What do you do for your day job? I'm a cop. How about do you mess around or anything else? Yeah, kill people's parents. Kill people's parents. Was Alonzo and his squad, were they hitmen? No, not really. They were rip-off drug dealers. Rip-off, yeah. They were rippers, yeah. Nancy Travis? No.

So I remember the ax murder. Yeah. I was thinking we could have done Nancy Travis month. Yeah. Could have done this vanishing ax murder. We've done three Nancy Travis movies. So what are the current, the current on the, on the drawing board months we have sex work month.

Oh, I love sex work month. Prison month. Dirty cop month. These are, for the people listening, these are actual months we've talked about. Nancy Travis month. Nancy Travis month. What goes in sex work month? Is this movie canceled month? Yeah, canceled month. That is the best month. That's the best. Prison month we had. Yeah. Those are on the board. We're doing a month in April. We haven't decided. Right. Is this movie canceled month? It'd be great.

I didn't realize you might want to do one or two. Oh, yeah. We should have saved Internal Affairs for his movie. More Apex Mountain. Laurie Metcalf, no, because that would be Roseanne. Roseanne. Annabelle Ciorano. Faye Grant, probably. Racehorse or fantasy team name. Van Stretch as a racehorse is a cool racehorse name. It's pretty cool. Yeah, Van Stretch.

But it is a mouthful to be like, and down the stretch they come. It's Van Stretch. Van Stretch. But there's a little double entendre there. The PA announcer might get a little tripped up there. All right, picking nits. I have four, but what do you have? Raymond out here getting in fights with Dennis.

getting in fights with his wife at Spago or wherever, and just nobody, no supervision of his behavior whatsoever. And then the other one is, I don't quite understand how much time has passed in this movie because Stephen Orocus needs his parents killed to diversify his business, but he has a house in Malibu. Like, I thought he was like, we live in a two-bedroom condo and we really need to build. But it seems like he's already...

quite wealthy. So what's the big deal? Just making a move. Yeah, sure. The Kings were for sale. He's trying to outbid Bruce McDowell. It's a two-man race. It was the Arrogas versus Bruce McDowell. You have any? I only had, I don't have any really nits to pick. I had a couple of Apex Mountains. Oh, go ahead. What do you have?

Is this the apex mountain of a man imagining his wife with another man in the scene? I've seen this a couple of different times. Oh, like those little flashback things? The little flash where you imagine your wife fucking somebody else. So what are the candidates? So best man. Remember the best man? At the end where he's imagining his wife fucking another guy. I've

Feel like it happens in that movie, The Big Picture, or it's the other way around? Oh, the Kevin Bacon one? Kevin Bacon movie, where he imagines himself fucking another woman while he's actually... That happens all the time. Right. Unfaithful is a big one, when Gear, after he kills the sculptor,

Yeah. When he's thinking about her with Diane Lane over and over again. What about, does indecent proposal count? Yeah. Oh, indecent proposal. That's probably the winner. That's the winner. Yeah, and just, it's obviously the apex mountain of cops fucking their partner's wives. I can't think of another one. I have an apex mountain. Yeah. Slapping in movies.

Oh yeah, because he slaps hard. He slaps Billy Baldwin like 10 times. Richard Gere to start the movie. If you watch, as he's doing that, you can see Billy Baldwin already has a big red mark on his neck. And then Nancy Travis slaps the shit out of Andy Garcia. That's real. Yeah. Now they would CGI him. Kickstart the school year with Apple gift card. You can send it via email or send a physical card to your loved ones.

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Let it fucking go to the answer machine. You're having sex. She's not like, this is a dirty cup. She's like, this is Dennis. Hold on one second. Yeah. That is, I don't think anyone in that scene is enjoying themselves very much. Let the phone ring. Yeah. But don't you have to, if the phone, if you let the phone ring. You're already going to come home? The husband? If you let the phone ring, don't you risk him wondering why you didn't pick the phone up?

Pick it up in a couple minutes. Although maybe Dennis Peck, maybe he lasted like 45. Maybe it's like, I'm Dennis is a 45 minute man. He's sting. Yeah. So Carl, the janitor is frustrated that his parents are screwing up the business. So he's going to hire someone to murder them. Yeah. This is just, that was the best outcome. He took a notepad out. He's like, all right, here are my options. The implication though is that his wife,

Has... I mean... Hasn't bought a box. She is honestly the... Like, the villain of the movie is Tova. Yeah. Because she gets... Probably prompts Carl to get his parents killed. Mm-hmm. Then...

screws Peck and pays Peck to kill Carl. Right. Arocus. So she is systematically eliminating his whole bloodline. Yes. It's Game of Thrones. Right, exactly. She's got him to kill his parents and then now they got Peck to kill him. That would have been a better hottest take. Tova is the real villain of this movie, not Dennis Peck. Peck has eight kids, nine on the way, which we've covered. It's just too many kids. He's not old enough to...

He started yelling. He's like, don't wait too long. That's what he said. He said, don't wait too long. You're basically every two years there for 18 years. He's been married four times and he's doing a lot of nutting. He's nutting everywhere. This guy nuts like crazy. You think Nick Cannon saw Internal Affairs and was like, oh shit. This guy's making some good points. That's the way you do it right there. Start early. This is a very small nitpick, but I'm passionate about it.

So in a bad guy, in the bad guy world with all the bad guys, and they're all like in weird clubs, like the club we see in this. And something happens where like there's Peck pays two shooters to kill his partner. So four people know about this. The guy drives off in the van and, and, uh, Raymond goes to his cousin's club right after and everybody, oh yeah, it was, it was Diego. He drove off. Yeah. He's he's blah, blah, blah.

In bad guy world, everybody knows everything that's going on. It's like there's a bad guy WhatsApp thread. They're like, hey, van shooter. And it's a movie trope and it's never explained. It's such a cemented movie trope that so many movies change. It's awesome. It's like the deal goes down at 5 a.m. tomorrow. It's like, how the fuck do you know that? How did you find it? You know what I'm saying?

Peck hires the two people. That's it. Those are the only three people that should know about it. And one's dead. Peck's not saying anything. So the other guy's like, oh man. Let me call up President Gregory. Am I tripping or does that happen in Heat as well? Yeah. It happens in all these movies. So it's like, it's going down nine o'clock at the diner. The streets talk. The streets talk in a way that I don't think is realistic in actual movies.

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast or untouchable. I have an idea for this. You have one? I have one as well. I would like to just keep the addition onto this category, which is or Apple TV's The Dynasty Patriots docuseries that takes a radical new look at what we thought we knew. And that would be Dennis Peck, loving father, trying to repopulate Los Angeles. There he is.

And Dennis is just like, look, I was just trying to keep people together, you know? Family is the most important thing. Bill Belichick is somehow to blame for Van Stretch's death. You could recut this movie where Dennis Peck is actually the hero because, like, look, he was right. He wasn't fucking his wife. The wife says they're not fucking enough. Dennis Peck is actually trying to get these two crazy kids back together.

Dennis Peck, the man. Well, and then you had the footage of Andy Garcia as a bad guy. Yeah. So you could, you know that Shining, where they have that Shining trailer where it's like a family comedy? Yeah. It's like Jack Torres. But Dennis Peck just tries to shake his hand and he flips out. My idea for a sequel is happening...

probably in the late 2000s pecs eight grown-up kids now terrorizing la they're like a gang all of them have gone wrong peck click peck click they're just terrorizing all the rich neighborhoods in la doing home invasions just killing people yeah there's a monologue my fucking dad man

Yeah, he did this to us. Do you think they have like a TikTok house together and they're all like doing stunts and stuff? They're like, nobody's going to do shit. The Peck sect. Yeah. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Catherine Hahn, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, Michael K. Williams, Raymond Ramone. Is it Ramone Raymond or Raymond Ramone? JT Walsh, Byron Mayo, Harley Mays.

or Philip Baker Hall. I think because it's about dirty cops, it can't be Wayne Jenkins. I think he's almost scandalized. But I do think Byron would get pretty into this whole situation. Like, Dennis, Raymond, Kathleen, Kenny, Heather, Lolly, Key, Tova, Amy. Why don't we get some oysters for Wolfgang Puck and see what happens? It's a natural aphrodisiac.

I have an unfinished house in Granada Hills. Just one big waterbed. Why don't we get some oysters coming? Put some Worcestershire sauce on that. Oh, man. Just want to ask her who gets it. It's got to be gear. It's gear, bro. It's fucking gear. It's fucking gear, man. Gear for sure. Probably unanswerable questions. Is everyone's wife looking for strange?

We'll never know. We won't know. Dennis Peck planted the seed. I'm really proud of this one.

What's a fair price for shooting someone's rich parents in 1990? Well, we don't know what he actually got paid. Yeah, so what was the price? What's the price range back then? It's 15 grand for both parents. No, that's what he wanted. And he's subcontracting it. No, but Peck... So that means he's not taking home... No, it's at least like 50K, right? You gotta give 40 or $50,000. I was thinking 75. 75.

Did you see the guy's house? He's like a 75,000. Giant compound. But I can't tell because like that house has all the covers on the furniture and it seems unlived in. So I couldn't tell like, did he buy that house after his parents had been killed? Was that Neil McCauley's house? It looks kind of like it. Mm-hmm.

Oh, we did the other one I had. Do you have any answer, Russell? I just wanted to know where the burger prostitute place was. Because you want to go there? I'm just curious. Is it downtown, you thought? I think it was downtown. Okay. Oh, I would have said... Because they serve pizza and pina coladas. I would have said that Beverly Boulevard part right before it hits the 101. Oh, I know what you're talking about. There's like that giant intersection and all these Alvarados sitting, all these...

We should make a fictional LA hotspot. Crime map? Like BJ's on Alvarado from Heat. The Burger Hut from Internal Affairs. That Tommy's right over there where you said. But also like...

like a fucking little Tokyo area down there. You see that place in a lot of different shit. Chinatown. 1990s movie LA is so much cooler than actual LA. Do you think it would be cool if, since we have such a flexible work, you know, work from home, work from anywhere. Just go to locations. If I just started like working out of a parking lot of a burger joint and you had to like come, if you wanted to talk to me, you had to like roll up next to my car and I have a giant Pepsi. Yeah.

Best double feature choice with this movie. This is easy. This deep cover. Deep cover was conceived as a sequel to this movie. You said that on text. How? Well, so Michael Tolklin and Henry Bean eventually got involved with the writing of that movie, but it was initially going to be an expansion of internal affairs in Los Angeles. Interesting. Victoria Dillard's in that one very prominently. I had bad influence just because...

This weird era that we're in now with weird psycho sex movies. You know what I had? Basic Instinct. Pretty good. Basic Instinct coded movie. The Indian Red Zawane Award. What happened the next day? How fast was the Raymond divorce, you think? It came lightning quick. There's no way those... Like two weeks later? There's no way they stay together, right? The darkest... No kids. Hey, let's just cut this off. The eventuality is that he realizes that he has to be...

so out there to keep her interested and for the relationship to keep the juice. So he's like, basically turns into Dennis. Right. Which gets called out by the Dorian character. You're basically just like Dennis Beck. I don't know what piece of memorabilia I'd want from this movie. It could be a hard pass. You don't want anything? What about the car? I like some of the polo shirts. I wouldn't mind going for an ice cold giant pet. I think if you told somebody's over at your house, you're like, yeah, I got this from the movie internal affairs. They just didn't really think you're a maniac. What's wrong with you?

It's the phone Van Stretch's wife was holding when she was riding with your gear. Yeah. Set warn. Coach Finstock Award. Best life lesson. Your wife wants to get strange? Oh, I was going to say don't talk about wives. Yeah. And then gear wins the movie. Yeah. For sure. Craig? Craig. Another one you hadn't seen. No. A movie that's older than Craig. Yeah. 1990, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um...

I'm fairly certain this is not the movie's intent, but I was just full rooting for gear in this movie. Yeah, it's not the movie's intent. But it's understandable. Yeah, they screwed it up. They made Garcia too shitty and not likable enough. There's like kind of nothing redeeming about him. And I just wanted more and more unhinged gear. And the movie gets way better as it goes on. Because I honestly thought the first 30 minutes were a little slow. But the movie just like picks up momentum and slowly builds and gets more insane and more insane. Yeah.

It feels intentional, right? I think that's why they, it's like a swerve. They started out traditionally and then it just flips. I think the key to a great villain is they have to be super attractive. I think an attractive villain is the best kind of villain. And I think Gear might be the apex of like hot bad guy. I wish he had played a couple more bad guys.

Yeah, I was sitting there for him. You know what? It wasn't the thing to do in that era. No, you wanted to be the good guy. You wanted to be the good guy. It wasn't the thing to do in that era, man. What bad guys did Bruce Willis play? Ever? Costner played zero bad guys other than No Way Out, if you count that as a bad guy.

I don't really think Bruce Willis did play one. Yeah, it wasn't. Tom Hanks certainly didn't. It's such a great turn. And, like, his sexual energy... Oh, in, like, Heart's War, like, eventually Bruce Willis is a bad guy. But, like...

Harrison Ford did What Lies Beneath. He was a bad guy in that kind of. That was the first one where he's like, oh man, look at Harrison Ford. This guy could be bad. It's some of the best performances. Even the little minute in Interstellar when Matt Damon's a piece of shit. He does that well though. Some of best Damon. I think Damon's a better bad guy than a good guy. He does that actually pretty well. There is no sexual electricity in most of the male leads now.

Like, Gear has something about him, and I feel like a lot of the older movies, Harrison Ford. Oh, my God, Dennis Peck got to Craig. Nowadays, it's like. It really did. Dennis Peck got to Craig. Craig's been peck-pilled. I feel like Dennis Peck got to Craig. Jesus Christ. Craig's there first night of Cut Cops. These guys are all. Friday night.

These guys are all sterile now, all these actors, man. Listen to you. He's made you rethink an entire generation of actors. Chris Evans is built in the laboratory. Yeah, he never could have been Peck. Could call Craig. You know who could be Peck now? Gosling. Yeah. If he wanted to. If Gosling wanted to be, Gosling could be Peck. Has Gosling played a bad guy?

Is he bad in Place Beyond the Pines? Nah. He's got a heart of gold. He's a crime dude, but he's got a heart of gold. Who are the two leads now? Gosling plays the serial killer in that Sandra Bullock movie. Gosling is the perfect pick. What is it? What's it called? The Frelty is the one with Anthony Hopkins. The two kids are in that one where he plays the serial killer. Murder by Numbers. It's actually a good movie.

That was like right after Remember the Titans though, wasn't it? That's him on the way up. How did, I have one question. How did Peck get Kathleen's underwear or was it not her underwear? It was, but I think he just broke it. He just went to that crib. He broke it and stole her underwear? Yeah. Okay. He didn't have simply safe back then. I was going to say, do you think you'd, this is, we could maybe cut this, but do you think you'd recognize your wife's underwear? But he does when he sees her after, he's trying to see if she has underwear on.

Yeah. And he sits her down. He's like, come here, come here, sit down. He's trying to like- He's doing so inappropriate. Check out. It's so inappropriate in that scene. I just wonder, would you recognize that immediately or would you have to be like, I have no idea? Do you know what the real takeaway is? Like, you're right. In this movie, Peck-

really, really, really is the man compared to... He is, bro. It is, bro. It's kind of like a whole Black Panther, Killmonger thing to where you leave... And you know what? Honestly, he talks shit to the very end. That's the best thing. It's like...

It's like even, it would be like a UNLV team that was losing by 20 and it's just like, hey, fuck you. Just so you know, we still got you. Right, yeah. And one of the best, I love the trope of like the bad guy who's just flexes his muscles and he's like, I'm just going to terrorize Raymond for like 30 minutes of this movie. And I'm going to use everything I have in my wheelhouse to ruin your life. And it was great. The guy walks in on pet fucking his wife and looks at him like...

Like, doesn't even... This guy's crazy. Like, doesn't even fuck... It's not even like, oh, shit, let me put this thing away. He's like, huh. The best thing is that his dying words are like, I just love my kids. Yeah, what was that? He was, like, erotically... Once you have kids, everything changes. I was like, what does that mean? You just, like, you have to fuck every woman in Los Angeles because you had kids? Wow. Everything changes. Everything changes, Jim! Dude.

The Rewatchables was produced by Greg Orbeck. We'll be back. We're accepting nominations for April, which will be some sort of month. So there you go.