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So, Rie-san, thank you for coming today. Thank you for having me. How are you? I'm good. How are you, Rie-san?
Thank you for your time. Thank you. This is the second time. The theme of this time is confidence. Confidence. I will talk about it in detail later. This is the first time I invite guests to this podcast. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad.
Let me introduce you to Mr. Morihiko Sekita from Sutherland Co., Ltd. and Mr. Masaaki Kuroyanagi from Sutherland Co., Ltd. Hello. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thank you. Both of you are working as art directors at a design company. Nice to meet you.
Thank you for your great partnership with 3D.
Mr. Sazan, you've been working with 3 for a long time. What kind of work do you usually do? We've been working with 3 for about 7 or 8 years.
It's a quick process. It's been 10 years since 3. Maybe you have a visual book at that time. Basically, I make visuals. Also, when you look at the product, there is a mark of 3 in the product.
There is a logo, not a logo type, but a symbol mark. This is the most memorable thing for us and the most important job in terms of making the face of the brand.
Please take a look at it later. It is actually inscribed on the product. I'm doing such a job, but to put it broadly, I'm making the face of the brand. Simply put, it's a design. But there are various ways of looking at design, and of course, there are times when you simply design it, but by making it, the brand value
We work on the design of the car. So, we think that 3 is a great company
I'm serious. I'm serious. Thank you. I'm very reliable. Even if you speak in a language like "Uchuu-go", you will understand. I'm an alien. Even if you speak in the language of an alien, you will understand.
We are a very loving partner. We are also aliens, but we live on a different planet. We are talking in a space language. It's like a Zen-mon-do. It's like a one-stop shop. We are doing it together. It's really fun.
Thank you very much. I have a question for Mr. Kuroenagi. I think there are many jobs that you have done recently. Can you tell me about your recent work? Yes, there are many projects going on right now. There are many. I can talk about it here, but it's okay. I'm working on the visionarium 3 at Miyashita Park in Shibuya.
We got a great theme from Rie-san. The concept of the store is borderless. We got a difficult theme such as lines without boundaries, colors that mix and have no boundaries, and ambiguous situations.
I made the visual. But I couldn't express it with just the visual. So I made a video. The theme was really interesting, so I made it with the idea of making it together. That's my recent job. I think that the experimental concept is flowing in Shibuya.
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I can imagine the spirit of Zen.
I think it's different. Maybe it's in the water, but it's in the sky. Maybe it's in the stomach.
I'm very satisfied with the work. Sazerland is a great company.
Sutherland is a wonderful company. Thank you very much. I have to say "333" with "333" because I can't just go to Sutherland. I'm having fun. Thank you very much. Let's get to the main topic of this time.
I'm not the main subject. I'm already in the main topic. The theme of this time is confidence. This is the place where you can capture the confidence of 3. I would like to talk a little about the theme of confidence that 3 captures.
Confidence, confidence. I wonder where confidence comes from. I think it comes from my experience and time. I think I have built up confidence from that.
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You can be happy with people's happiness. You can understand people's pain, and you can understand people's feelings. You can understand people's feelings. You can get used to it.
I want to give myself confidence and do what I do in my daily life.
I think there is a big difference between working with confidence and not working with confidence. I think that kind of experience leads to confidence. Thank you very much. It's really deep. It's the axis.
Mr. Sekita, are you confident in yourself? I'm confident. I've lived a long life, but sometimes I'm not confident.
But when you think you're confident, things will go well. You know that. But when you're not confident, things don't go well. You know that, but you can't do it. But if you're asked if you're confident, you'll say you are. If you don't think that, you can't talk about today. I think I talked about my confidence when I was here.
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You can't just spend a day doing it yourself. It takes about two days. I wasn't confident five minutes ago, but I'm confident five minutes later. That's the environment. We're living, so the same thing doesn't happen every day.
So, if you ask me if I'm not confident or not, I think I'm confident in what I do. I think it's true that the environment changes, but I think it's important to always be confident.
It's important. When you do something, you think, "I'll do this from the core grip. I'll do this from the core grip." It's completely different when you start with "Is it okay?" I think that's important. Thank you very much.
Kuranae-san, do you have confidence in yourself?
I'm just saying based on my character. I'm quiet but I have confidence. You're cool. I'm cool. But it's okay. I'm doing it with a mindset of what I'm doing at work.
Even if you are presented by someone who is not confident, it's not interesting. As for Kuroyunagi and Sekito, when they design, they are always judged. Good or bad, good or bad. My job is also good or bad, but that's still ...
If you are always bad, you need to be confident. You can't move forward. There are times when you feel negative. You have to move forward. The client designs and sends me. I'm like this.
I don't have a reply for 2 or 3 days. I don't like this. It's basically useless. Even if you call or LINE, it will be recorded and it will end. I understand. But in such a pile of various things,
I feel like I'm getting better at it every time I clear one.
I used to be a little bit rough when I was young, but I think that's the experience I mentioned earlier. After that, I think I'm confident that I've been able to do it. It's a job, but it's fun and interesting.
I think that's what makes me feel confident. I'm really interested in your experiences.
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I was a designer in the past. I was a black guy. I went to the club after that and drank in the morning. I went to the club without sleeping. I was a designer and a business man. I enjoyed it. I didn't know if it was good or bad. I did a lot of work and failed.
I went to the club, got drunk and became a servant. But there were various people there. I was stimulated by various people. I didn't know if it was good or bad. I experienced that. I don't remember where I first met Rie. I remember that it was a drinking seat. Is it in Japan? Yes.
So I introduced myself to someone. I remember you doing your best to introduce yourself. There was a makeup artist, so I wanted to introduce myself. I asked him if he was okay with me.
I found it interesting to talk about it. New Yorkers also said that they had different experiences from me. I also have experience by listening to the stories of people who are doing fashion and beauty in New York. By sharing time in various places, a different place will be born. It will all be experience.
That's right. In that sense, it's interesting. It's not a intersection, but I've never passed one before. Suddenly there is a connection. But I don't know that.
I don't know if he likes music, art, or design. But if there's one thing he doesn't like, he'll find it somewhere. I'm working with Rie now. Of course, I'm working with Trollil and Kuro-Rain. I don't know why I met him. Maybe he didn't have the keyword "design." I didn't do my best to design.
I think that the experience will lead to people's experiences. I don't have a specific answer, but I can tell you that I just like it.
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I don't have a clear goal or purpose. I just wanted to do what I like.
What am I talking about? Experience. It's okay to talk about life. What is the turning point of experience? It's not a bad thing.
I don't know what to know. Please give me an objective. He didn't go to design school. He went to a furniture store in Tokyo. You may not know what an idea is. It's a furniture store in Japan.
Are you a furniture designer? No, no, no. The furniture store is doing various things now.
There were many furniture shops and restaurants. It was the first place that made Japanese people aware of Japanese interior and space. It was in front of Blue Note in Aoyama.
I'm sorry, but I might be a little off topic. This is a story about when I went to New York with Mr. Kuroenagi and Mr. Rie. Do you remember Mr. Ari in Brooklyn? Mr. Ari? Yes. Mr. Ari went to a furniture store at that time. I went to a furniture store. I've been watching it all the time. We're connected now. I like pubs. I like pubs very much.
But after all, it's the same as the mind of the creative. After all, seeing good things is also an experience. After all, seeing a completed one is cool, or I want this, or it becomes my property.
I value seeing a variety of things. That's also an experience. I felt the same way when I talked about New York with Mr. Kuroenagi. Some people go to the store they are interested in.
I went to the store and found a carpet at a carpet shop. I didn't know what it was, but I thought it was good. We had different perspectives. It was fun shopping together. But I don't buy clothes.
I bought it. I bought it because I saw the information and got it for free. I really don't buy it. I'm wearing the shoes I bought today. I go shopping and say that it's good. I say I should buy it, but I never buy it. I like to buy it for people. I like people buying it. I think I'm satisfied with the information.
And when it comes to what you really want, you pay a lot of money to buy it. Like stones. It's really expensive. So you probably have to build up your experience and eventually buy it.
I don't like it, but I'm really like that. I often go to New York with everyone. I go to various shops with Rie-san for shooting.
I don't buy anything. I've never seen you buy anything. You're a very stingy man. I think you've been to many countries and done a lot of activities. What are some of your memories?
I've never had this much experience. Please tell us about that. I remember it even before I came here. When I went somewhere, all the makeup tools were gone. That story is interesting. That's something only you can do. It's hard to talk about that. That's a great experience. I think I did that twice. The first time was...
I went to Africa for a job. I was supposed to get my luggage, but my clothes were already out. I was told that I had to buy makeup tools. I was like, "What am I going to do?" I didn't have a department in Africa.
I was like, "What should I do?" I thought I'd be there by the next day, but I couldn't. So I went to a nearby store and bought something to eat. And at the end, I melted the soil in water and applied it to my skin. At that time, my skin was really pale.
And the next day, I got a message saying "What?" After the shoot. It's amazing. It's challenging to work without using the tools you usually use. That's really hard. You have to take responsibility as a professional. You have to deliver your parts properly. It's really...
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The end of the day
Even if you use this or something else, you should think of yourself as making the same makeup. That's right. That's amazing. I've heard that story a lot.