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The Trump Case Against E. Jean Carroll and The Progress of #MeToo

2023/8/9
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Brooke Gladstone: 本期节目讨论了美国联邦法官驳回特朗普对E. Jean Carroll诽谤反诉的案件。Carroll此前在一场民事诉讼中胜诉，指控特朗普在1996年性侵犯了她，并被判赔偿500万美元。特朗普随后对Carroll提起诽谤反诉，但被法官驳回，因为特朗普未能证明Carroll的陈述是错误的或并非至少基本上属实。 Rebecca Traister: Carroll的案件具有里程碑式的意义，它揭示了社会运动改变法律和生活需要很长时间的现实。该判决也表明，去年关于Me Too运动衰落的担忧被夸大了。Me Too运动并非始于2017年，而是一个循序渐进的过程，经历了多次事件的推动和反弹，例如Access Hollywood录音带事件、Gretchen Carlson对Roger Ailes的指控、以及Christine Blasey Ford对Brett Kavanaugh的指控等。虽然过程中有失败，但也有积极的回应和进步。Carroll的案件也挑战了传统观念中对“完美受害者”形象的刻板印象，许多受害者在遭受性侵犯后会有各种不同的反应，这并不影响其经历的真实性和诉求的正当性。Carroll选择提起诽谤诉讼，是因为性侵犯的刑事诉讼时效已过，这表明她决心维护自己的声音和故事的真实性。性别平等的进步更多地取决于女性自身的行为和勇气，而不是仅仅关注施害者。 Rebecca Traister: 媒体常常关注短期事件，而忽略了更广泛的历史视角，导致对社会运动的进展判断失误。许多遭受性骚扰或性侵犯的人由于各种原因无法获得公众的倾听，这凸显了社会对受害者声音的忽视。E. Jean Carroll的案件是一个重要的转折点，它展现了Me Too运动的长期性和复杂性，以及取得进步的艰难性和可能性。它也提醒我们，在争取各种平等和包容的过程中，这是一个需要终身投入的事业，我们不能在胜利后沾沾自喜，也不能在失败后灰心丧气。

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Rebecca Traister discusses the impact of the #MeToo movement and how long it takes for such movements to effect change in laws and societal attitudes.

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This week, another legal blow for former president Donald Trump after a judge ruled to dismiss Trump's counter defamation lawsuit against E Jean Carroll for statements she made about a ruling on civil case earlier this year. Back in May, a Manhattan federal jury found that former president Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll in a luxury department store dressing room in the mid 1990s, and awarded her $5 million for defamation and battery. The jurors, however, rejected Carroll's claim that she was raped. This came at the end of a seven-day trial, during which Carroll testified against Trump's claims that she was lying, and that he had never met her. The day of the verdict, Carroll strolled out of the courtroom onto the New York City sidewalk, sunglass-clad and triumphant. Rebecca Traister) is a writer-at-large for New York magazine, and author of “Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women’s Anger.” This week, she speaks with Brooke about the place that this nearly thirty-year-old case holds in the landscape of Me Too, the premature death bells of the movement, and just how long it takes for movements to fully permeate laws, practices, and attitudes.

This is segment originally aired in our May 12, 2023 show, *Her Day in Court).*

 

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