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A Former Disinformation Reporter is Running The Onion. Plus, Birds ARE Real.

2024/6/7
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节目主持人:本期节目关注三个主题:特朗普支持媒体的困境、讽刺新闻网站《洋葱报》新任CEO的经历以及一个名为“鸟类并非真实存在”的病毒式阴谋论。这反映了当前媒体环境中虚假信息、讽刺和阴谋论的复杂互动。 Ben Collins:从报道虚假信息到领导讽刺新闻网站《洋葱报》,他分享了其职业转变的经历,并探讨了讽刺在揭露权力和应对虚假信息浪潮中的作用。他认为讽刺不受约束,可以直言不讳地批评当权者,并对未来媒体发展具有独特优势。 Ian Beacock:他分析了“鸟类并非真实存在”运动的传播方式和社会影响。这个虚构的阴谋论通过讽刺手法揭示了人们对阴谋论的迷恋,以及参与者寻求归属感的心理动机。 Annalee Newitz:她从历史视角探讨了故事在塑造人们世界观和进行心理战中的作用。从古代到现代,故事一直被用作武器,影响人们的思想和行为,特别是在文化战争中。 节目主持人:本期节目讨论了美国右翼媒体的困境,包括Steve Bannon入狱、Alex Jones的InfoWars面临清算以及Epoch Times的洗钱指控。这些事件凸显了虚假信息和政治宣传的危害。 Ben Collins:他详细阐述了其在NBC新闻期间对虚假信息的报道工作,以及其对互联网文化和政治极化的观察。他认为,虽然对虚假信息的关注有所下降,但其影响依然存在,并且需要持续关注。 Ian Beacock:他深入分析了“鸟类并非真实存在”运动的内涵,包括其讽刺性、传播方式以及参与者的心理动机。他认为,该运动既是一种对阴谋论的讽刺,也是对寻求归属感和意义的年轻人的回应。 Annalee Newitz:她从历史和社会学角度探讨了心理战和文化战争的联系,以及故事在塑造人们世界观和进行政治宣传中的作用。她认为,在文化战争中,暴力威胁和煽动性言论是心理战策略的体现。

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This week, the Department of Justice accused one of the most influential right wing outlets of laundering tens of millions of dollars. On this week’s On the Media, a former reporter on his progression from defining the disinformation beat to running one of the most famous fake news outlets, The Onion. Plus, a satirical movement about birds illuminates the inner workings of conspiracies.

[01:09] Host Micah Loewinger interviews Ben Collins), newly minted shareholder and CEO of the satirical site The Onion), about how his background in disinformation reporting led him to his latest gig. 

[18:03] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Ian Beacock) about Birds Aren’t Real), a prank conspiracy theory that is itself a case study in how misinformation spreads.

[34:41] Lastly, Brooke interviews Annalee Newitz) about their latest book, Stories Are Weapons: Psychological Warfare and the American Mind). They discuss how stories have long been spun as a means of controlling people — from the 18th century to today’s culture wars. 

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