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Pretty Little Episode #10

2024/10/25
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Key Insights

Why did Tig decide to embrace her gray hair?

She found it cool and wanted to be distinguished.

Why does Mae sometimes feel like an imposter in glamorous circles?

She worries about her appearance and whether she fits in.

Why might Tig consider getting Botox in the future?

She thinks technology will improve and it might be a quick procedure.

Why does Mae think Botox might hinder her acting performance?

She worries it could limit her ability to emote.

Why would Mae consider going on testosterone for a bit?

She's curious about the physical changes and reversibility.

Why did Angela move to Italy?

She fell in love and married an Italian.

Why might Tig consider moving to a foreign country?

For love or to experience a different culture.

Why does Mae like Amsterdam?

It's beautiful, fun, and socially progressive.

Why does Mae think she'd be a good cleaner?

She enjoys cleaning and is good at it.

Why does Mae want to move to Amsterdam?

She loves the city and its vibe.

Why does Tig want to hoard cats if she were a dragon?

She loves cats and always wants more.

Chapters

Tig and Mae discuss embracing aging, changing appearances, and considering extreme makeovers.
  • Tig discovers gray hairs and considers embracing them.
  • Mae contemplates Botox, fillers, and extreme makeovers.
  • Both discuss the potential impact on acting and performance.

Shownotes Transcript

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Pretty Little Episode. Every time. Every time. Every time. It's a delight. Yeah. And I can't... We say Pretty Little Episode. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's good. That's a really good thing to call it. Hey, guess what, Tig? Oh, what? I got my hair trimmed and the person cutting it goes... Well, she was dyeing it too for like continuity for the show and she goes...

I like the salt and pepper. Should we keep it? I go, sorry? She goes, yeah, like in the back and sides here, you got salt and pepper. And I was like, well, here we go. And I went, I hadn't noticed it. And then I look and I got like a 12 to 14 fully gray hairs.

Okay. And does that terrify you? And did it remind you looking at me? Is that what reminded you? Well, honestly, I was thinking it's fucking cool. You've got it like in your sideburn there. And it's a very cool look. And I thought I want to be distinguished. Yeah, I got to embrace this. And it also was like, oh, man.

I've been having a tough summer. I've gone gray, like over stress, I think. Yeah. Well, I think I've shared my, another ex of mine used to call it going great. Going great. I like that. Yeah. Can you picture me with fully salt and pepper hair? Yeah.

I'm really not great at picturing things. I have to see things. Like Stephanie will be like, should I wear this thing or with this? And I'm like, I don't know. You have to put it on so I can see it. Yeah. But I'm usually into salt and pepper hair. Yeah. I do have moments when I'm, and maybe I've talked about this on the podcast. I have moments when I'm sitting around with like beautiful, glamorous actresses. Yeah. Yeah.

Have I talked about this? I don't think so. And it dawned on me recently that they might be staring at me going, does she not know that she can bleach her teeth? Does she not know that she can dye her hair? Does she not know? You know, because if you must know, I haven't done anything. I mean...

You don't, but you don't need to do anything. I think if you had like, like paper white teeth, like, like that gleaming, like it would be so strange. Yeah. Or like a full jet black hair. Yeah. Jet black mustache as well. Yeah. Which I would do. But I don't know. I think I would imagine you would look good. You're obviously an attractive person. So why? Yeah.

Careful. Okay. I am married, but you know, you can be on a diet and still look at the menu. I do think, I do wonder if I'll get like Botox and stuff one day. I think I probably will. I think the technology will get so good that it'll just be like a two second thing, you know? So if it gets good, should I do it then? Well, yeah.

I don't know. It's not that... I mean, you don't... Go on. Give me an honest answer. I'm trying to think. Well, I was just thinking, like, would it hinder your performance acting-wise, not being able to emote that much? And then I thought... Oh, see, my abilities hinder my acting. I can't... We can't blame this on Botox or whitening teeth. But yeah, I do have fantasies sometimes about just going for it. Like...

Like extreme makeover. Yeah, just bleaching my teeth, getting Botox and filler and dyeing my hair, getting some fake boobs and...

just really going for it. I feel like you would do that as a bit and you'd like really commit to the bit. I was about to say, and I'd mainly do it as a bit. Yeah. I think it'd be worth it. But can't you kind of backtrack if you do that stuff? Don't your teeth become yellow and stuff again? Yeah. Yeah. Like Botox is temporary. I guess if you get something like a really bad facelift, you know, if you from, from some back alley, yeah.

searching, then I don't know if you'd be able to backtrack. Well, I wouldn't get a facelift. I would just get stuff you could put in and then maybe take out or it wears off. I don't know exactly what the process is. The filler looks crazy on people. Sometimes people just start, they look like a balloon. Like they look so kind of

Yeah, it's weird. And then there's others that look like a deflated balloon, like myself. No, you are the handsomest. That's all I needed to hear. I also have had moments where I'm like, and I don't feel even remotely trans myself.

But there's moments where I think, oh, how could I do that just out of curiosity to like see what that would look like or how that would feel? Yeah, there's no rules. There's no rules. I know. But I mean, and then but does it wear off or you can go back and... Some things do. Because I obviously like when I started taking testosterone, I'm, you know, because you don't really know how you're going to feel. I was like, what's reversible? What's not? Yeah. And yeah, things like...

your voice dropping it doesn't go back although my voice has really not dropped significantly my voice yesterday I realized my female co-star has a deeper voice than me she's like hi Mae and I'm like anyway guys uh

But yeah, if your voice drops, it doesn't go back. But things like body hair and weight distribution, and I think that stuff is reversible. Okay. And where does the weight distribute to? Without being on testosterone, it would go more to your hips and your butt. And then on testosterone, it goes more to your abdomen and you build muscle easier. So wait, you gain fat in your stomach? It's more like if you do gain fat, it goes to different parts of your body. Well, maybe I'll get my teeth bleached

I'll dye my hair black.

Yeah, go on testosterone for a bit. Yeah, I'll get filler and Botox. And get boobs, but go on testosterone. But go on testosterone, yeah. And just see. I mean, it's like we're only alive once. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, as far as I know. As far as we know, yeah. What if you live... Do you think cats are like, come on, you only live seven times? Yeah, yeah. Wait, is it seven...

Oh, nine. Oh, nine. Nine. Yeah. Well, that one's already lost too. Yeah. Let's jump off the roof. We only live nine times. We got to do this. Why do cats have nine lives? Yeah. Why do they say that? I don't know. Do you think you'd live differently if you knew you were going to come back eight more times? But you don't know which number you're on. You just know everybody gets nine chances. Yeah. I would probably do...

Well, I'd have to get over my fear of heights and stuff. Why? Because I'm picturing myself doing, I guess because I look like Tom Cruise, I'm picturing myself doing Tom Cruise type things like, you know, ramping off of something on a motorcycle. So you'd be more risky? Yeah.

Like you wouldn't be so risk averse if you knew. Right, right. Yeah. I think it would take away some of my motivation. I'd end up scrolling on my phone even more because I'd be like, I've got eight more lives. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, listen, Pretty Little Episodes famously are where we take listener questions and hear what people want to hear from us. Everybody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about it. I love that song. Me too. That song. Yeah. Should we listen to our question? Yes, please. Hello, handsomes. My name is Angela. I'm 53 years old and I'm originally from Indiana.

However, I've lived most of the last 23 years in Northwest Italy after I met, fell in love, and married an Italian. My question for you is, would you ever want to move to a foreign country and live out the rest of your life there? And if you would, where would you like to move to and why? So where would we...

If we were going to move for the rest of our days to a foreign country. If it was for love, like Angela, I would do that. I feel like that's kind of the only thing that it's worth. Wait, I was going to say that it's worth living in a foreign country for, but that's not what I mean. I mean, like that it's worth uprooting your life and really, I don't know what I'm saying, actually. But that's not even true because you moved to the States.

Yeah, and I moved to England for 12 years. Your story is falling apart very quickly. I think... Sounds like you'll go on a whim no matter what. But she doesn't speak the... I mean, to move somewhere with a different dominant language, that's like a big... Oh, was that part of the question? To move to another country? But let's pretend it is because that's kind of juicy. Yeah. I mean, Stephanie and I have...

We've gone to Amsterdam a bunch. I love it there. Yeah, it's just so beautiful and fun. And it's like socially progressed. Yeah. Norway, Finland. Yeah. Those places are, yeah. Although...

I'm really, I go back to climate change. But does that make you want to get away from LA a little bit? Climate change? Yeah. Cause LA is going to be rough. I think. Oh, LA is already rough. Yeah. Maybe New Zealand. Yeah. New Zealand's good. Canada's good. If I was going to move somewhere with like a totally different culture and an

and it was for love, let's say, I would move to, well, my parents moved to Greece in their 20s for five years. And Greece is pretty beautiful. But I think I'd want a kind of more urban feel. Yeah, Amsterdam's

looking pretty good. Berlin. I love Berlin. But comedy wise, I don't know. I feel like Amsterdam's got the comedy scene too. Yeah, exactly. And you know, you'd find me in a window in a red light district. I live happy as Riley live in the dream. Would you would you do that? Yeah, I feel like we've talked on the pod about how when I moved to England, I looked into becoming a

An escort for women. But there wasn't much of a demand. Yeah, there wasn't a market for it. What if you signed up as an escort for men? Well, I'd have to advertise really clearly what they were getting. You're getting a little cowboy and you better be prepared for that. Yeah.

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Have you seen that company in Los Angeles where it's topless housekeep cleaning? No. Wait, what? You're kidding. No. There is a business where you can hire topless housekeepers. You're joking. May I'm not. Thomas, you know this to be true, right? But also, yeah. Are you going to say imagine if you and I worked there?

Well, I always, whenever I see that, I'm like, oh my God, what if I interviewed for that job and I just had scars across my chest? And they'd be trying to not make it obvious that they're discriminating based on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I didn't know that existed. That's so wild. I still think I should do some sort of prank and

See if I can get some cameras in there with me trying to get a job there. I think you should do that too. I'm a pretty good cleaner. Are you? Yeah, I just don't have boobs. Right. Yeah. So let's move to Amsterdam. I like Iceland, but I couldn't do dark all winter. They've been having volcanoes erupting. Yeah, I don't want that.

I'm not interested in that. There's nowhere to escape. No place to escape. Dude, ain't that the truth? And you never escape yourself. No, no, you don't. The man in the mirror is always looking back at you. Yes, indeed. Do you speak French pretty well? Here we go. Oh, my God. No. No.

Tig, I was on a red carpet at TIFF. Congrats, mate. Thank you so much. Yeah, congrats. And you're going down the line and they're interviewing. And so this person's like, hello, this is CBC Canada. Do you have a message for our French Canadian listeners in French? And I go, bien sûr. And then I blank. And then I couldn't think of anything to say. And I go, yes.

C'est l'Halloween, which was like this song about Halloween that this pineapple used to sing when you're in school. This pineapple teaches you and he goes, C'est l'Halloween. Hey, C'est l'Halloween. And the woman looks so disappointed. Thomas is nodding his head. He clearly knows. I love that song. Yes. And it's just so insane to think of French Canadian people hearing me be like, of course I have a message. It's Halloween. Yeah.

The woman looks so disappointed. Better than I can do. Yeah. You had to do a French accent in something too, right? I did. Why'd you have to bring it up? I did that Indigo Girls musical. I loved what you did before there. You know, I have to say...

I really was ashamed by my performance. But did I tell you I got a text from Amy Ray from the Indigo Girls? No. She said that she was dying laughing. Listening? No, when she watched the movie. Oh. She was laughing at my part. And I don't even think she was laughing at me.

me having a bad accent. Like, I think she thought I did a good job. And, and that has actually helped me because it was, I was carrying a lot of shame. I was carrying, oh, shame.

Oh, yes. I just, it was hard for me to, you know, I went to screenings of the movie and was promoting it. And when I'd sit through it, I'd be like, Oh God. Oh God. And when you were promoting it, did you keep like reference, like making fun of yourself? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Haven't you found like, just from sitting in an edit and having to watch myself, I found like, we don't know. Like, sometimes I'll be like, oh, I in that take was thinking about something completely different. I was not present. I was not. And then everyone's like, that's our, we like that take. And you're like, no.

We don't know anything about ourselves, really. Yeah. I mean, I guess my character people thought was funny, but I'm very focused on I did a terrible French accent. Yeah.

And I think what comes over me is like, I just feel like an imposter in that moment. And I'm like, of course. Yeah. Anyway, I don't need to go on about it. But I'm sure I think if it was that bad, they would have told you not to do it. Well, that's what I have to just go with, you know, when you're filming and you think that wasn't quite right, like you're just saying. And then the director isn't going to move on if they're not happy with it. Yeah.

But at least Amy Rae was happy with it. Should we hear the answer? Yeah, let's hear it. Oh, we know the answer because she moved to Italy with her true love. Yeah. Should we hear another question? I think we should. Hi, handsome. It's Maddie from the great not state of DC. My question is, if you were a dragon, what would you hoard? Like most dragons sit on a pile of gold or something.

I feel like this is somebody up your alley, Mae. Why? Because I like dragons? I don't know. It feels very Mae, like if you were a dragon and then even knowing that dragons sit on things. I'm like, what do you mean? I only know fire flies out of their mouths, you know? Dragons sit on things. Yeah, you're right, actually. When I heard the word dragon, I did get a little flicker of enthusiasm. And do you know that dragons sit on things? Of course. Of course.

Well, yeah, they, um, you ever read the paper bag princess by Robert Munch? Of course not. Oh, it's a, it's a classic. Yeah. Dragons, they, they hoard gold and things usually, but, um, I didn't know, even though I was a, I'm a big fan of Pete's dragon. Yeah.

Oh, really? Yeah. Pizza Dragons kid. Yeah. I do hyper fixate on things though. And I, and I buy, so right now I'm into vintage cameras, like 35 millimeter film, still photography. And so I'll just go on eBay and be getting these cameras for like

50 bucks and they show up and I don't even remember ordering them. And I've got, so I'd be, I'd be a dragon sitting on a bunch of old cameras, I think. Wow. And then cameras would just be taking pictures of your backside. Yeah. My scaly bum hole. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? What would you hoard? What would I hoard? Vegan desserts. Yes, I would hoard vegan. I would just sit on

A key lime pie, a vegan key lime pie. Tiramisu, actually. Did you know that's a fetish? What? Sitting on cake. No. It's a fetish where people, they take their underwear off and they sit on cake. Mae, they're ponties, Mae. They're ponties.

And wait, do these people do this by themselves? It's just like they're home alone sitting on a cake? All I know is there's- They swing by the grocery store, go into the bakery and pick up a few cakes for the week. Yeah.

I know there's a lot of videos. There's like a whole community of cake sitters. Hey, I want to swing by later on. I'm going to be sitting on a cake. Sitting on a cake. What would I hoard? I would hoard... I feel like you would just hoard your family. Like you would just sit on your... I'd just sit on my family. You'd sit on your family. And my cats. Yes. Get in there. Got you guys. Yeah. But probably...

Yeah. Dragon hoarding cats. Yeah. I would just feel like, come on, because I'm always asking Stephanie, don't we have room for just one more? Oh my God. No, we have three and it's a perfect dynamic. They travel around the house together, sleep together, and

And she said, if we brought in the wrong fourth kitty, it could just destroy the peace in our home. It would be like when you introduce polyamory into a relationship, you're playing with fire. Exactly. You got to get the unicorn, like the perfect cat. And the chances are you're going to someone's going to get jealous. I

I know. And we have three perfect cats. And that's why I'm like, that's that gambling where I'm like, I'm sure that fourth perfect one is out there. Well, if it's nurture, not nature, then you could create the perfect cat. Get a brand new kitten. Yeah. Okay. So you're as a dragon in a cave sitting on like 25 cats. Oh my God. Way more than 25. Way more. Way more. Should we hear Maddie's answer? Yes, we should. My answer is yes.

I would be hoarding all of the lost socks from the dryer. I'm the reason that you only have one of the pair always. Thank you. Okay, I love her. I love, I'm the reason. Okay.

I am the reason. Yeah, I like that a lot. I didn't realize that they get stuck down the side of the dryer. I thought it was like one of life's great mysteries. How come you lose one sock? But apparently it's because they're small enough. They work their way into your dryer. Oh, I didn't know that. That seems like a fire hazard. Yeah.

Well, not our problem. Not our problem. Until our dryer explodes, then it is our problem. Yeah. Well, that was a fun episode. It was. I like our vibe. I love our vibe. Yeah, I love our vibe. Reminds me of just having lunch with you, you know? I know. Yeah.

I know. What the hell? What the hell? Get a clue, Fortune. Get a clue, Fortune Marie. Yeah, I hope people please keep sending in your questions. For sure. And tell your friends about this podcast because, you know, people are always saying, we don't want it to end. We don't want it to end. Well, the way to keep it going.

Keep it going is to continue listening, subscribe and share episodes that you love with your friends and continue to grow this really incredible community. To keep it going, keep it growing. That's right. And until next time, keep it pretty handsome.

Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro, and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Ouellette. Email us at handsomepod at gmail.com and please follow us on social media at handsomepod. What a podcast! What a podcast!

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