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Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul Scheer, and today we are talking about the M. Night feature film, Old...
What do you need to know? Well, I'll break it down simply like this. What do you need to know? I mean, really, at this point, a family goes on vacation. They get sent to a private beach where they find out that they start to age rapidly. Hence the title Old Man.
But I won't say any more than that because that's just the first of many little twists. Please welcome my co-hosts, Jason Manzoukas and June Diane Raphael. How are you both? Well, getting older by the minute. Yeah, every second. I feel like I'm living this movie. I feel like I'm living this movie. I feel like there was a moment in this movie and I really, I'm wondering for you guys. I feel like there was a moment in this movie and it's when Gavreel,
Gael, the main couple that we're kind of following, although there's a number of families on this beach with them, the main couple we're following is Vicky Kreps from the Phantom Thread and Gael Garcia Bernal are the married couple. And when Gael's eyesight starts to go...
And her hearing starts to go is when I was like, oh, I feel like they're my age now. I feel like they're starting to degrade the way I am. And then I that's when the movie like I was like, oh, no, I feel seen by this movie and I don't want to be, you know. You know, it's so interesting because I kind of connected to it in a surprising way. I don't know when it was made or when it came out, but.
As someone who feels very much so. It just came out. It just came out. Okay. So as someone who feels very much so. It was shot over the pandemic. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I auditioned for it during the pandemic. Whoa. What? To play which character? Yes.
Well, Jason, and I told this to June many times last night, I auditioned to play two parts. Two parts? Two parts. Because I first auditioned to play Ken Lung's part. Okay, Ken Lung, who is great in this movie, he plays Jaren, the character Jaren. But correct me if I'm wrong, this movie is essentially, to me, a riff on a Lost movie.
It feels very Lost adjacent to me. No, this feels like an episode that he's... And wasn't he on Lost? Yes. He's one of the guys that comes in in the later seasons, I think, with...
Not the others, but like, I can't remember, but he was definitely on Lost. And I was like, wow, he's really in on sci-fi, tropical set, mystery box scenarios. I mean, look, I auditioned to play Ken Long's part. I didn't know the premise of the film. I was given a hefty monologue about being able to swim and magnets, which was in the film. And I tried to put it together, but I did it in overwatch.
in a way where I didn't even have June read with me because it was in that part of the pandemic where it was like, I don't even feel good enough to have June read against me. So I just try to memorize all my parts and then did it together as like a big monologue. Oh God. So I did that. That's such a hard way to, to give a performance like fully, fully one-sided where you're just offering your own lines with nothing else to go off of. I know. And I just, I was in a weird spot and I was like, I'm not going to make June put me on tape for this. And,
And then I got a call and they were like, hey, they like you, but they have this other part. And that was for the hotel manager. And the only line that I had to audition with was like, welcome, so-and-so family, come this way. And that was it. And I was like, well, I'm...
I was like, pack my bags. I'm going to go shoot this M Night movie. Get ready. I'm going to the Dominican Republic. Nope. Nope. Nope. No, by the way, I think this was shot in Philly. This is interesting. This is a suburb of Philly where this beach is. Yes, like all M Night movies. All M Night movies shot in Philly. And like all M Night movies, I was shocked that at the end, Mr. Glass was there. In the laboratory. He was right there in the laboratory. And then he walked right up to them on the beach and he said, I'm Mr. Glass. Get ready. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
I'm going to be so bold as to say something, which is I think I liked this movie quite a bit. I mean, I... What? Yeah. Here's what I'm going to say. Here's what I'm going to say. And I liked elements of this movie. This movie felt like a... There was a lot of strong Twilight Zone kind of vibes to it that I thought was good. I thought the performances were good, but it's too light.
For a movie that is just about the people on the beach getting older and trying to put the clues together, this movie should not be essentially two hours long. Well, I don't know. I mean, I thought so. Obviously, I was getting a Manny and Petty while watching it. And I saw a step up from we're getting it while we're recording. So this is a good this is a good deal. Yeah, we're learning. Yeah.
Yes, I got it. You know, and I have I'm so thrilled that my manicurist and pedicurist has agreed to come up to the bedroom and just do it sort of bedside. Oh, boy. So that's a real scene, Jason. It's a real scene. To do it bedside is like that's the statement that is chilling. Like, oh, I'll walk into my room and see a whole operation going on. I was always like, oh, I have to be downstairs like in a living room or a kitchen. And then I was like, we've been together. Me and him have been together for years now.
And I'm like, why can't I be cool? Like, I want to be in my bed. Like, why? And I asked him, I said, do you mind coming up to the bedroom? You know what? How much more time will have to elapse for you to be getting a mani and pedi while asleep? I have fallen asleep, Jason. He comes in. I did fall asleep once. Okay. He does it while you're in some sort of like sleep state and you just
You just wake up and it's done. Honestly, that's my dream. That sounds great. That's my dream. Put on a sauna blanket. Because we had an incident one time. I will not bore our listeners with what happened, but something happened with my nails. And so it ended up taking almost three hours. It was 1130 at night and I did fall asleep. Oh, well, man, that seems a bit more. And it was great because you could work on the hands. How long is manicure and pedicure? It should only be like an hour and a half, two hours. I mean, he is here for a long time.
That's a longer time than I would think. A lovely man who is here in our house. He seemingly comes at like 7 o'clock at night and leaves at the witching hour. Like, I mean, it is... The witching hour? Ooh, that's right. I guess it still is spooky season. Yeah, I like a spooky season. You know, I was getting a mani and pedi, so it's like one of those things where I have my hands...
Like I can't look at my phone, can't be distracted, honestly can't get up and like walk around. And so I was sort of trapped there with this movie and I felt so relieved. You were watching a movie. Well, I guess, or you could just say, wow. Trapped there with a movie, meaning I couldn't do anything to distract myself from the movie, which normally I do. I do because I'm so sorry, but these movies are usually very hard for me to get through. Right. Right.
They are. Jason and Paul, you both. Paul, I barely see you looking up. Oh, I don't disagree. Yeah, this means they're really hard. The work we do and suffer through. Yes, I agree with you, June. We're heroes. We are. We are. Why aren't people banging pots and pans when we're done with a podcast? That's what I ask. Shh. Shh.
So I, you know, yeah, it's usually really hard for me, but this went down. Oh, so smoothly. So smoothly. I love the way it looked. I enjoyed it. And honestly, so what I was going to say, Paul, before you interrupted me with your story and all of the parts you didn't get. I was going to say that I actually did connect to this movie because
In terms of feeling like the pandemic has robbed us of time. Yes. And especially for someone like me who is in the prime of her life. Wow. And firing on all cylinders in every way. And to feel like I had to, you know, stop. And that time was...
taken from us, that a lot of time was taken from us. I really did connect to it and enjoyed it. Now, I couldn't tell you what happened at the end and what the twists on twists on twists really were and why. But I bet you probably could figure out pretty much what it is. It's pretty basic. So it's not that clinical. They're just, you know, medical. They're doing medical experiments on people. Right. But
And because of the properties of this beach or this cove or whatever, the magnets, they can test medicines faster. What has gone on in Hollywood that we have just committed to fucking magnets? James Bond magnets, Fast 9 magnets. Everyone's got fucking magnets. We are like... What do they know that we don't know? Why has everyone been like, how about some magnets? I mean, but then...
part of me was like, would more people take the vaccine if we had trials take place at that island? So interesting. Would more people feel comfortable if they knew that people had died quickly? No one knows about this island. No one knows. No. Okay. Here's the thing.
I think the reason why I didn't get the parts is because... Wait, are we still on your audition? Yes, yes. Do you want to drop your tape in here? Now do you want to just drop the audio of your audition tape in the pod? I went to go look for it because... You did? Oh, I went to go look for it. I was like, I'm going to play... You saved them?
Oh, I mean, they're probably on a Dropbox somewhere. Here's the thing. The reason why I don't think I got it is because I wasn't weird enough. This movie, everyone is weird. Like, are they sweet and are they weird? Are they weird? Are they weird? Like, my baseline is off because everyone appears to be weird from the minute you meet them. Like, they all look a little dead. The hotel clerk is a little, like, I'm like...
There's no twist when everyone looks fucking weird. Everyone's standing and staring and looking. He does that thing where everybody has a secret. Yeah. Everybody has, you know, like literally like characters have secrets that we don't need them to even really have, you know? Molly just put my audition in the Dropbox, by the way. Oh, my God. Incredible. Incredible. Should we watch it? Yeah.
I'd love to see it. It probably is terrible. It was at the height of the pandemic. I'm alone in a white t-shirt trying to take myself. I'm sure any auditions I did during the height of the pandemic are mostly just me sobbing on camera, no matter what. Um...
I also, and I connected with this movie similarly, June, because I feel like here we are. It is already November of 2021. Like the last two years essentially have evaporated from underneath us. When I look at myself, I look older. I feel older. My eyesight is getting worse, has gotten worse. I need to get a new prescription. Like all of these kind of things
markers of the aging process are so present and so in the last few years and have been moving so quickly that when that started to happen, especially again to the Gael and Vicky Cripps characters, I think because they're closer to my age,
When their aging started to really kick in, I was like, fuck, this movie is this movie is really about getting old. And this movie is about confronting those issues. It's a it's it's not it's it's not a good movie. Let me be clear. It's a bad movie, but it is playing with things that I found very compelling. I did, too. And I found them to be pretty haunting because.
I felt the same, like, oh, we've all, by the way, we've all aged so much because of the trauma that we have collectively been through as a global community. And so it feels like not only did it remind me of just aging in general and the struggles of aging, but also the fact that it feels through the course of the pandemic that that has been time has sped up.
Yeah. And slowed down. It's a very weird feeling of like I because of the amount of collective trauma that we've all experienced. January 6th, the Trump, the election, Black Lives Matter, all of it like it has aged us.
But let me just say this, right? I am the person that will cry. I was crying before this movie started thinking about, oh, my God, to see my little baby go from like a five-year-old to like a 25-year-old would be like... Devastating. Well, the moment that made me cry that I was going to mention to you guys because I feel like you would have access to this more is when...
the daughter who early in the movie as a young girl is singing quite beautifully on the bus. And then when she's an older, like, I don't know what she's meant to be. Maybe late teens, twenties age actor is now playing that character and she's singing, but Vicky Kreps has become too deaf to hear her child sing. You know, she's not able to hear her daughter sing anymore. Like losing those connections is,
First of all, I didn't realize they were played by different actors, so this speech isn't real. Oh, the beach isn't real. Yeah, this wasn't a documentary. Oh, okay.
Wow. Okay. Now I'm thinking about it differently. Okay. This is interesting. One of the things that I did think worked for me was I thought the, like the replacement of the child actors with increasingly older and older actors. Yeah. I thought they did a great job with, I will tell you the one thing I didn't think they did a great job with was, uh, and I, and I, I, I,
I feel like some of the older actors... When Crystal's bones cracked upside down in the cave. Oh, I mean, that, like, body... I was like, why is this happening to her? Is this, like, Suspiria? But there's, like, there's a moment here where, like, where our lead character, like, when he gets older, he's like...
Now I'm talking like this. Oh, yeah. Garcia Bernal does an old man voice. Yeah, that's true. Here's the thing. Were we fighting about something? I don't remember.
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I just think like the thing that is driving me nuts about this movie. First of all, you set up this whole world and I get the idea. Like there's so many things at play, right? One, which is, and I think it's important to note, you like this movie is fantastic.
the most clunky ass dialogue I've ever seen in my life. Everyone not only says who they are, but their profession. It feels like a zillion times. So much so that as a device, the young boy, when Trent, the boy, is at his youngest, he runs around asking everybody, what's your name and what is your profession? And be like, I'm a cop. I'm a dancer. I'm like, what the fucking?
Well, that's the thing about M. Night Shyamalan movies is they are so... They're written as, like, exposition dumps. Like, just as dialogue. You know what I mean? Like, everybody is speaking text, not subtext. Nobody is...
everything is just out in the open. There is no, it feels like people are talking to each other the way that strangers talk to each other, not married couples for, you know, decades. Well, that's what I'm saying. Everything is on this weird baseline, but I want to play just a montage of everyone saying who they are and what they do. Oh, yeah. It did feel like Sesame Street to me. What are your names and occupations? I'm Midland. My uncle,
Who's the resort manager here? I'm an actuary. I calculate people's insurance rates based on their risk profile. I curate exhibits for museums. I'm not a forensic pathologist. You're a police officer. I'm Patricia. I'm a psychologist. Hi, I'm Trent. This is Idlib. What are your names and what do you do for a living? Oh, well, I'm Suki Watson. I'm a chef. I'm Greg Mitchell. I'm a cop. Cool. And I'm Mellie Mitchell. I'm a dancer. What's your name?
And I guess there's two things at play, right? Because you meet these characters and they're like...
You live too fast. You live too slow to just right. You know, like everyone's like kind of setting up these baselines of what. Yeah. The main couple, like I said, Gael Garcia Bernal and Vicky Kreps are in the process of separating and they haven't told their kids yet. This is going to be like their last vacation before they tell their kids they're splitting up and that the mom has a tumor.
Right. They're fighting. And, you know, like it's so like I said, there's no subtext. They literally one says to the other, you live too much in the past. You live. You only care about the future, you know, is the reply. Like, yeah, I'm like, oh, OK. So I guess this movie is about time. I mean, one of my favorite one of my favorite moments is when when Vicky Krupp says, like,
When people start to age, she goes, I work in a museum, so you know I'm not hysterical. I'm like, wait, hold on. Why does working in a museum mean that you can't emote? Well, I do think M. Night's, I think the thing I struggled with the most really was the portrayal of women and how they age, specifically that one character.
Woman that's... The calcium woman? Crystal? Yeah, because I'm like, it does... You're talking about Rufus Sewell's wife, right? Yes. The woman who has to take calcium pills? Yes, she has to take calcium pills, which is, I guess, why her bones did that at the end? I don't really know. I couldn't figure out why her bones did it, but I'm assuming... She seemed to have needed calcium. But she sort of set up as a woman who's completely vain and obsessed with how she looks...
And it seemed like as the kids are aging, and the kids are aging much more rapidly because of how kids develop and grow over a year's time. But it seemed like the kids were also mentally aging. Well, this is what I was trying to figure out. And what bummed me out so much about her and about...
M. Night's view of young women was like, oh, she's so vain. And as she's aging rapidly, that doesn't change. She's never able to look at her body and think, oh,
oh, this is just a vessel. I shouldn't be so vain. I have more to offer. There's it. This isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. I'm learning something about myself. It was just like, that's the wonky part of this movie is like some people feel like they're only there for a day. Right. And, and they're aging so rapidly. And, and,
It feels like aging is giving them wisdom, but wisdom is only given through a life lived, right? So they're not learning anymore. Can I quote you on that, Paul? So beautiful. It's actually something that I have said in my first book. Maybe if you'd brought that to the audition, you would have gotten the part. By the way, I did find the audition. We'll play it at the end. Wisdom is only given through a life lived. And that's why when they do this weird moment...
I don't feel the same way I felt yesterday or this morning and I don't think my parents would understand. My thoughts have more colors in them now. Yesterday I had a few colors, they were really strong and now I have more and they're quieter.
She says that now she sees more colors, but those colors are muted. And I'm also like, what does that even mean about aging? Well, you're right. They don't give really... And to speak to your point, June, about Crystal, and also...
All of the other characters, almost none of whom are given any interiority except for our main family. Right. We don't understand Rufus Sewell. We don't understand Crystal. We're not given access to midsize sedan. We're not given access to... Midsize sedan. I mean, like... Is that a joke? I mean, that is a joke, right? Well, when they first said it, I thought so. But it's true. His name in the credits is midsize sedan. Later, he says his name is Brendan, but... Right, no, but I mean, I felt like, why? Midsize sedan? Like...
I feel like M. Night is writing this movie being like, oh, his rap name is Midsize Sedan. I'm crushing it. Yo, did you see Hatchback and Midsize Sedan last night on Veracruz? That was off the hook. Oh, I like Kia more than them.
Kia. Anyway, like I feel like nobody is given any kind of except for our main family and our main couple. And they seem to be aging with wisdom, to your point, Paul. And with by examining their personal histories and all this kind of stuff, we're given access to their their inner lives. And nobody else are we? Everybody else is super broad strokes. Yeah. Rufus Sewell.
Crystal is a racist. You know, Crystal is vanity. They are almost embodiments of like the seven deadly sins. I thought he was just mentally ill. Yeah. Well, I felt like he was treating midsize Sudan frequently as the only black man, as if he was trying to steal from him or as if he had killed the woman that he was with. He kept attacking midsize Sudan in a way that was, to me, felt racist. He did stab him in the face.
To me, it felt like he was being, it was racially motivated. Like, but maybe, I don't know if you guys didn't read that. Well, I thought that at first, and I kind of thought that that was supposed to be a little bit of a misdirect, that we thought he was just racist, not just, but racist. And then as the movie went on, we realized he's racist.
going to lose his career and everything he's worked toward because he has this raging mental illness. He has schizophrenia, I believe. He has schizophrenia and he's trying to murder everyone. I mean, he becomes mixed. He just becomes a stabby. I mean, he's stabbing everyone at all times. And I would say that one thing about this movie that I did love was it was a beautiful representation of mental illness and it really... A compassionate, thoughtful examination of mental illness. Yeah, almost like that Anthony Hopkins movie, The Father, just really got you in there. I mean,
His mental illness just became like stabbing. And they had this like exposition line later on where it's like, I don't think we should put the mental illness people with the sick people, which is also like when they are doing this test, like, okay, so wait, hold on. You're just like throwing. So everyone takes one pill and that one pill. Well, like it also is a bizarre idea. Like that one pill sits in their body and,
for the 24 hours and that's how they determine like the course of it. So if you were to take like one dose of chemotherapy, you could see if it could cure your cancer. So you're saying so when they got their initial cocktails, that their pill was in there. So but other people that they're with,
don't take anything. No, they all have their own thing. Mental health, that they all have their own weird. Oh, but they're family members. Like, yes. So like Jaren, Jaren wasn't given any kind of medicine. His wife was, you know, they cured her epilepsy. Um,
And, you know, Vicky Kreps has the tumor, but Gael Garcia Bernal doesn't have any illness inside of him. Well, he has a weird thing with his throat to make him talk like this. He has old man voice. He's stricken with old man voice. But, you know. But what a terrible way to do it. Like, if I'm the resort manager, which I should have gotten that part, I would have. Why let people with children? Jesus.
Well, that's... I don't know. Why not separate them? Why not separate them? There have to be a single people that you can... If you're going to do this, it is...
truly morally corrupt to do it with people with children, you know? But that seems to be, like, exactly what they're doing. I mean, oh, go erase their hard drives. Make sure you never get any record of it. Yeah, and they find, like, the dolls in the sand, and it's like, well, oh, my God. This is, like, it's always got kids? Why? By the way, I did love the way the kids spoke to each other because...
I thought, here's my big thought. And I was like, this is going to be the best twist that that little kid that talks to our main boy was going to turn out to be M night. Like that M night, like age. Ooh, that would be so fun. That's why he doesn't have any friends.
And that would have been like a fun twist because I felt like there was something there. But M. Night, if you're worried, M. Night is in this movie. Oh, big time. Big time in this movie. And when it's like him looking through the camera, I was like, oh boy, come on, guy. We can't.
We can't be doing like, look at me. I'm the filmmaker looking through a camera. I like when Hitchcock used to just walk through a frame. We don't need the whole scene. We don't need a whole thing where you're like, look at what I'm doing. I'm doing the thing on screen that I'm doing off screen. Here's my question. I didn't even think about that. When that little kid says that his uncle doesn't like the coral and sends our hero family that note, is he trying to warn them? Yes. Yes.
Oh, okay. Because when we come back to them and to that kid, it doesn't seem like he really knows. Right.
He doesn't know. He just knows his uncle doesn't like the coral. He just does. But he doesn't know what's going on. He knows also that all of his friends disappear because you heard that. And never come back from that beach excursion. I mean, I think because this medical research company is in the is in the business of killing. By the way. So when so this medical research company. So they are attracting. I was I was a little confused about how people got to this place.
Like they were just, it just felt so happenstance. They were targeted. She saw it in a Facebook ad. They were targeted. And no, they were given a, they were,
They were awarded... She said it was a sweepstakes that she was told she won. Is it... All right, so this hotel... This hotel... So the hotel is a normal hotel except for these patients. Handful of people. Or is it staggered that every day, like everyone in that hotel... I don't know how often...
A trial begins. I would love to look at the books. I would love to just see some of the books. You'd love to get in those books. This is trial 77, so unclear. By the way, for trial 77, this shouldn't happen. Because of this speech, we have been able to save hundreds of thousands of lives with new medicines. Before we're done, it will be millions. We do trials and fail constantly, but not today. One of this cohort was a woman with the epileptic seizures.
Her name was Patricia Carmichael. She suffered debilitating seizures her whole life. Nothing could help her. The medicine we gave her when she arrived turned out to be the exact mixture. She didn't have a seizure for eight hours and 17 minutes. 16 and a half years, we cured her of her epilepsy. We'll now fast-track trials, make that medicine, and share it with the whole world. Every single person that needs it. They're applauding as if
Like, this is new information. Like you said, it's trial 77. At this point, I don't think you're applauding another successful day of killing multiple... No, what they're applauding is that they... The drugs worked. That the drugs for epilepsy worked. So they now have a viable cure for epilepsy. But they've also killed...
a tremendous amount of people. Oh, they've killed all these people and have like hard drives full of watching them kill each other and then die grisly deaths. See, Paul, this is why you didn't get the part because you couldn't really understand this moral quandary and how many people's lives could be saved from that epilepsy drug. Well, look, I get it. I just don't think that you need to put other kids at risk. I think like, let's separate. I think it's worth it.
I think it's, I think it's worth it. By the way. Yeah. Ends justified. I thought it would have been interesting again, if that little boy was a remnant, like he was like, oh, you are, you didn't go with your family on that trip to the beach. So now you stay here forever. You know? Well, I also was like, you know, Trent, uh,
you know, goes from being a six-year-old kid to being like a 50-year-old man in the course of the day. I mean, obviously, he's still a six-year-old kid. But he isn't. But, you know, and he isn't, but, you know, he ends the movie as a 50-year-old man, but was a six-year-old kid just the day before. A good-looking 50-year-old man. Anyway, regardless...
It takes him so long to remember that he has a note from the kid at the hotel. Like one of the things that bothered me in this movie was they never do an inventory of what they have. Well, they got all that food. They've got all that food. They've got stuff that I'm like, find the note earlier. Like you have. Yeah. You have something here. Why wouldn't you ever think today? I know a lot's going on. Listen, I get it.
No. You were six years old. Four year old is giving birth to a baby. You had a baby. And the six year old has to bury. You had sex with a kid and then had a baby that died instantly. Then you watched your girlfriend fall off a cliff and die. Then your parents, you know, I get it. A lot's happening, but.
Look at the note. Come on, guys. I mean, there's a lot to be going on. I didn't understand why that baby died. She said she put it down for a second. Because they put it down for a minute, which to the baby was hours. And they said the baby died because nobody paid attention to it. But that seems like a crazy diagnostic call to make. Like, how do they know that?
I think, I don't know. I think that's just what they decide. There are a bunch of scientists and dancers and, uh, librarians. Well, you know, um, can't, no, well, you know, um, one is a nurse. One is a doctor. One's a rapper. One is an actuary. Oh, the actuary. When he talks about the kids getting hurt on coffee tables. Oh my God. That actually gave me the most pause in this entire movie. Uh,
But yeah, there was... I was very hurt on a coffee table. But I guess this is like my issue with it is like, well, if that baby was... Wait, I don't remember that. What did they say about kids in coffee tables? When they first go into the room. Most children get hurt, like 95% of childhood accidents are kids in coffee tables. When June and I were in Montreal, we were put up in this very nice...
or apartment, I should say. And it was very modern. And every table had such an edge that we were going around taping table edges and tennis balls. We were like taping t-shirts to the corners of tables. It was like watching them in bunches. Well, Sam had just learned how to walk too. And his literally every point, it was a super modern apartment. Every point was like a sharp edge and
Same eyeline. It's interesting that that's where Sam learned to walk because I often think that he walks like a Canadian. He does. I mean, that's one of the things that people say a lot. That's why we put braces on him. Forrest Gump. That's right, Canada. We have to fix our kids legs when they come back here because you're ruining them. They're walking too relaxed. By the way, if any of our listeners have seen my Instagram, but I'm still for some reason, it says I'm based in Canada and I can't.
Wait, what? I don't know why. It says I'm based on Instagram. It says that? I mean, congrats. Thank you. But I don't, I can't seem to get it off. Canada has claimed you, I believe. I think that was one of the deals that I made. You are a,
You are one of what they call a disputed person. When I left the country with the kids without you, I think I had to give you to Canada. That was a part of the deal I made with customs. I will just say that there are... First of all, go back to the calcium woman for a second. Crystal. Crystal, who does a great job. Again, I think every one of these actors is like...
trying to ratchet up these lines. I love the acting. And I think the acting is actually very good. Good, great actors. But I will say it was odd that like, I feel like she did that thing where she's like, I have one wrinkle and she went in the cave, like she went and hid in the cave. Well, she put a blanket over her head and was like, don't look at me. I was like, what is this? This is crazy. Like, what was that thing that you and Jessica were, June, in the Christmas episode? Oh, Crones? Oh, Crones. A little Crones. She was a little
Yeah. I thought she did a great job. I thought, you know, all the performances, especially, I will say again, the kids, I thought were very compelling. I think this movie really could have fallen apart. What did you say? When you saw Vicki Krebs acknowledge her son's giant bulging crotch, like that's how she saw that he got older. I thought she was recognizing that his shorts didn't fit.
fit at the waist. Yeah, that's what I thought too, Paul. You thought? Oh boy, Paul. Well, you know, I mean, it's so crazy to think about the fact that our eyes never grow. You know, like our newborn eyes are, are, are,
same eyes, but our noses are always growing. We lose our baby teeth and get adult teeth, but we don't get adult eyes. Those kids should be losing teeth. They should be spitting teeth during some of this. Yeah, they should have. I did think that them having sex on the beach was, again, this is what I don't really understand because if he's a 60-year-old kid at the end and when he's a 50-year-old man, he's like, hey, we're going to bring you back to your aunt. He's like, oh, great.
Yeah, I'm sure that my aunt's going to want to see the 50-year-old. Like, he's so bitter and like, you know, like he's not like there's an element to him. Wouldn't you be too? But not as a five-year-old. But he's not mentally a six-year-old anymore. That's the difference. They have a line of dialogue that explains it from the Kara character. She says...
I'm thinking differently, too. Like, I'm having... That's the color thing, right? Where she's like, I'm seeing things in different colors now. Oh, is that what she said? Okay, maybe you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do try... Again, it's wonky, and this is the part that's hard, is, like, yes, like, they are aging, the kids are aging, and M. Night definitely wants them to be confronting more adult things, so he can't have, like...
a six-year-old intelligence inside of a 16-year-old and then a 50-year-old. He has to kind of let... He's having his cake and eating it too, because I agree. The version of the movie that makes the most sense, I suspect, would be the 50-year-old man with the mind of a six-year-old. You know what I mean? Their bodies age, but how do you... How does the beach age their minds? That doesn't make sense. That's what I feel, because some people are aging in a way where...
I don't know. And why did Kiyosurento have a bloody nose in the beginning? He had a blood clot disorder. So he was one of the... They were experimenting on him as well. So, but I mean, but that just means that he would just have a slightly bloody nose? Because it's just like kind of just... It's not...
It doesn't seem like... Well, I think his blood, whatever was blood, it wasn't clotting. Okay. So it would be running. So it wasn't clotting and then he took the medicine and it just started to clot and that was how we knew it was working. I don't think his was working because they say we didn't get a chance to get good results on him because the schizophrenic, because the mentally, that was the guy's case for we shouldn't allow mental illness patients in because the schizophrenic killed our clotting case.
subject. You know, so we don't have, we have insufficient data on that medication because he was killed too early. Midsize Sudan was killed too early. I'm going to be a broken record about this, Niels. We should separate the pure medical subjects from the mental illness subjects. Our violent schizophrenic patient cost us the data on our blood clot patient. Sydney, I doubt we'll alter protocol at this point, but...
put it in a form and submit it to Warren and Warren again. But the girl and the girl also died very early, who also had the same blood clot disorder. Right. Because she got on the beach. I think she had something else. I think she had a different. I thought that's how they bonded over their disease. They both had MS. Oh, did they both have the same? Yeah. OK, OK. Sorry, I misunderstood. Through some sort of. Got it. But if you go in the water, you just disintegrate. What do you mean?
Because they find Ken Lung in the water and he's dead. And then she was in the water. Oh, I think that their thinking is Ken Lung swims out, goes unconscious, the same as what happens in the cave, and then drown. Okay, so then what happened to that girl? She took off her clothes. I'm assuming the same. But she didn't know she was trapped on that island. She just went out too far.
I either that or she aged into her own natural death due to her illness, her illness or her whatever. You know, like what I couldn't the one thing I couldn't figure out was how because midsize sedan and the blonde woman whose name we don't we never learn the skinny dipping woman. Yes. They seem to be on the beach the night before.
Right. So they're on the, they've already been on the beach for a full day. Yeah. I couldn't figure out what, why he, why midsize sedan didn't know more of what was going on. Cause it seemed as though he had been there longer than everybody. Were there other people when he got there? Maybe, I guess not. No, they seem to think they went at night. Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of like, again, as the, as the hotel resort manager, I would have staggered it a little bit better. Uh,
I would have made sure that people got there at the right time. Not your call to make. Okay, well, I mean, I would have talked to M. Night about it. This back-to-school season, spend less on your kids with Amazon. Now, here's the thing. I love back-to-school season, but I'm going to be honest. It's expensive.
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I will say that, I mean, and again, I'm not trying to like unpack. It's a Twilight Zone episode, and I think that that's really fun. Yeah, if you poke too many holes in it, it's going to be not fun. But I guess like there's something about it where I'm like, what was hard about this movie was...
For me was what I think what you're saying, Jason, there's too many things that they're trying to do, which is sort of like that moment where the husband and wife like confront each other. And it's like, I read those texts from that guy. I can't believe that you texted that guy. Like they're aging rapidly throughout the day. You would think that he would drop that petty thing of seeing a text from this other guy. But I guess that hung with him so much. I feel like.
In a world where life is passing you by, these people are getting caught in the weeds a lot more than just trying to enjoy... Well, I feel like they needed to work that out so they could die together peacefully. Okay, okay. I think so. I also think, like, again, like, their entire lives are happening in a matter of hours. Their children are having... Like, they're watching all of these deaths occur. So, yeah, I don't know if they can peel off to be like, hey, I know that you were cheating on me, you know? But they do have that...
I thought that moment was sweet, you know, as they get older, kind of demonstrably older in those final moments. I liked that moment too. I think that the thing I felt...
I really related to sorry, Paul, was when I thought it was I thought it was actually quite beautiful. And he was like, I don't know what we were fighting about, but I'm not mad anymore. I thought that was so beautiful. Like none of those fights that you think are so important. And in the moment of whatever the frustrations of the day, disappointments of the day, like nothing matters.
really matters, the end. I thought that actually, because I couldn't connect emotionally to the kids, which was surprising because I always can. I know, that's what I thought too. I was like, I came up real empty there, but I did...
to the couple and what they were going through. I did too. And not because of the coupleness of it, but because of the aging of it. And exactly like you're saying, the time eroding all of those things and those feelings and those things that you think are so paramount and so important. And, you know, like the ocean washing the sand away or turning the cliffs into sand. Those things don't matter. Go ahead. But I guess this is where I'm really fighting it. Because I do agree that that scene was well done.
And appropriate for a story like this. But yet to tell me, like, are their bodies aging or are their minds aging? Because if their bodies are just going, but their mind... And I think this is where I've gotten confused, and I know I keep on going back to it, but I will say that, like, when that boy comes out with the girl and she's pregnant, he's like, look, she's fat. So his mind has not progressed to a teen at that point, because a teen would understand pregnancy. So, like, there are moments where, like...
Like even the calcium woman. That's where I say I think he's having his cake and eating it too. I think when he wants them to be still kid-like to benefit from that innocence and innocence lost, he has it. And then when he needs them to be slightly older to have like a heroic moment or a moment of breakthrough, he allows them to be older. And, you know, like it's not, this is where the movie is a failure for me, you know, is if it could have been half an hour shorter, much more economical, right?
And been a tighter story and a much more satisfying story, I think. But it's it's so bloated and in its bloat, it gives stuff. It just is. It's it's messier. It's messier inside of the story, inside of all these characters. It's just messier because he's kind of giving you competing information. I would love to see a sequel, though, where.
They have to go on trial, like Big Pharma has to go on trial with these people and they have to explain. Well, yeah, well, technically. All right. Hold on now, because I do feel like there is an element of this movie that like I don't know what I'm I don't know what I'm rooting for, because I think the Twilight Zone idea in my mind would be that.
If you had a chance to see your whole life in front of you in a day, you would change the life that you live. Right. Like that would be the that would be like that's the Fantasy Island episode. Right. This was an episode of Fantasy Island, which was a TV show when we were kids or at least when I was a kid. Yeah. Also functions a lot like this. You know, people who have problems or whatever, they land at this resort and the resort sends them on like a journey, supernatural adventure that solves whatever their problem is. And this felt like very much like that.
And but at the same time, I don't know, I can't. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail and unpack it. I just I'm just I think you're really turned around, Paul. It's hard to know what you're reading of this movie is because so much anger and resentment is coming through because you didn't get the role as the. You know, I think that's probably June. Speaking the truth here, I think one of the things that made this movie hard for you to get on board with, Paul, is the resentment that.
That, you know, your performance, which again, we will all see at the end of this recording. I'm so nervous. I'm so nervous. It's going to be terrible. You know, you just know you have it out for this movie. And June and I... I got some things. Do you think your role, all the questions you have and all the confusion you have, do you think you playing that part would have solved all that? Yeah, I do because I wouldn't have rolled up my sleeves...
I would have gotten on that beach with M. Night and I would have said, listen, my friend, let's break this down. Oh, we would have been in Philly over cheesesteaks. How happy are you you didn't have to do all that swimming? I mean, look. By the way, a movie in which multiple people while swimming are bumped into by corpses. That first one got me good. That first one got me good, too. But I was like, this would not happen like this. Ah.
Yeah, it was almost like the corpses were like, had some sort of sonar where they were trying to find people. It was almost like it was like it kept in a small like tide pool, like everything keeps on washing to shore. I will say that... Yeah, it was a really dark moment for me when what's his face? The doctor turns to Crystal and as she's aging before we can see her face. Because M. Night does a ton of that. Like before...
the audience is revealed. He won't let you see. He won't let us see. Which I thought was actually pretty effective. I actually did too. But, but when, when her husband says to her, put on some makeup. Yeah. It was just so,
dark to me. Oh, yeah. Well, he really is using them as like the ugliest of ugly. Yeah. You know, like Crystal and I can't remember his name. I mean, Crystal straight up runs when her daughter is giving birth. Yeah. She runs and leaves her. Away.
Yeah. It was just like, oh my God. These people are really despicable. This world also, like people are speaking so close to each other. It's staged like it's a multicam sitcom. Like everyone's within earshot of each other at all times. I mean, I do love that wave POV where you're in a wave watching a scene, but everyone is saying what they should be whispering just out loud. Like when the two kids talk to Ken Luong and his wife, it's,
They're like, oh, how old are you? And they're like, I'm six. And they're like, oh, these guys are lying to us. Just go with it, honey. Okay, you're six. Like, but they're facing them. Like, there's so many moments in this movie where people are like, put some makeup on. That was weird. Yeah. That was weird because it was like, they're literally two feet away from you and...
it made me feel like, are the kids zombies? Like when this character turns around, like what are we going to see? Well, and why aren't the kids, this is where I felt like the movie should have cut immediately so that we see the kids are bigger. Everybody sees it. Everybody gets on board. Like this is, he tries to like milk this little, these moments at the end of the first act into the second act as if he's teasing it out.
And I'm like, we know the conceit of the movie. Everybody is looking at a six year old who's now a 15 year old. Why are you, why, what's going on right now? Don't be coy. Like, let's, let's get it and go. We don't, this is too much wasted time here. I almost feel like he has a great idea for a movie, but then it's like, so you're like, oh yeah, so I have this idea for a movie. It's like a beach when people age. Oh, that's a great idea. Oh, I know. And then, and
And then get a girl pregnant. Oh, Clark. Yeah, that's interesting. Oh, and then and then and then. OK, then the person like he keeps on like adding on and on and on. It's like, oh, that's a great idea. Yeah, I guess it's gonna make sense. Oh, and then you find out it's actually big pharma. There was a moment at the end. There was a moment where near the end where like the parents are dying and the main parents that we've been following. It's really just down to their nuclear family or the only people left and the parents die.
And I was like, wow, we're really getting to it. Okay. And I clicked on the thing and I still had 40 minutes. I was like, what on earth is going to happen here? This is absurd that there's still so much going on. But I liked the conceit that is inside there. He's very economical. Yeah.
So like the, the idea that like the setting up the, the rusty utensils that later Vicky Kreps can use the rusty knife and it will poison Rufus Sewell. And I was like, okay, I like that. I like those little, those little things that are clever uses of the rules or the,
the beach that you've already set up. I thought some of that stuff was really good. I thought it was like, I really liked the, like I said, like those moments where, um, Gael Garcia Bernal's eyesight starts going where she starts to lose her hearing when aging is a part of it. That starts to get very sad to me. Like that stuff. I was like, Ooh, I'm really enjoying this. The, the, I agree with you. The children's journey from little kids into like young adults,
I was like, this is interesting, but I couldn't, I didn't access that storyline as much as the others, you know, because... I just think that the better version of this is San Junipero, that Black Mirror episode, like where, I mean, it's not exactly the same, but this idea of like where we...
Yeah, what we've, you know, I think that that's part of it is regret. Part of it is you're right. Like, June, I think what you're saying about like what fight is really important after time has passed, like what are these things that we're really concerned about? And when it really comes down to it, you know, what are our true connections? I think all that stuff is there, but I feel like it should have had such a more.
climactic ending. And what it builds to is just M. Night looking through a telescope. Then you go to this weird lab and then the kids knock over a vial of cocktails. And then it's like, all right, we're going to send you home. It wasn't satisfying. No. The M. Night classic signature twist is
just really wasn't satisfying. The twist that it's all like a megacorporation, big pharma megacorporation. I was like, oh, this is so not personal. Like the twist at the end of the sixth sentence, which is obviously what he's been chasing ever since he made that movie, is so satisfying for...
in terms of the character, Bruce Willis' character realizing the stakes of the reveal, which I don't know why I'm not spoiling, but regardless, please.
Please, I do want to see it. He's Luke Skywalker's father. Oh my God. So anyway, so it's like, but this is like, this is so not personal to the people that we've been following all along, which is to say like, oh, it's big pharma and big pharma really doesn't care about who has to die in order for their bottom line and their blah, blah, blah, and this, that, and the other. I was like,
oh, well, this is now just a bummer. You've not paid any of the respect to the emotional journey that these people have been on. You don't even really get a very good satisfying moment for Trent and Maddox, aged 50 or whatever they are at that point, to have a real moment. You know, because he's...
I would have come in and I would have really gotten in there. What will be so funny is that the tape will be so bad. But I did not know that that was my character. You'll see when, but I could have brought a lot of that. What you're both talking about is what I bring
to a project as an actor. And that's the movie that, like, that's where this movie, I feel like, could have been great if it had been a little less pleased with its, like, twists and turns. Oh, I thought you were going to say with me. And had a little bit more Paul Scheer in there, bringing that... Fine, yes. Bringing that sheer madness to it. I will say this. We obviously have opinions about this movie. There are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Second Opinions.
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And that is a old Second Opinions theme. And if you want to hear some older themes and older episodes, every Monday we are releasing an old episode of How Did This Get Made back into the stream. So check it out. We've had Drop Dead Fred, The Island of Dr. Moreau, Halloween 3. We're trying to keep them paired thematically with what we're talking about each week here on the show. I'm curious if any of our listeners have...
A how did this get made either team Fred or team sanity tattoo. Oh, we have seen some. We have seen some Fred tattoos. I have not yet seen. You mean like a drop dead Fred tattoo? Yes. I have not seen a how did this get made? Yeah. I'm saying does anybody have team Fred as a tattoo or team sanity as a tattoo? People definitely don't have team sanity because they are they are not going to do that.
Because those people are too sane, you think? Yes. Or are they just crazy enough to do it? So look, here's the deal, people. These five-star reviews, there are 90 of them. Oh, wow. Yeah. Because this just came out. This just came out. 57% are five-star. Wow. So this is, you know, people liked it. And here we go. This is from Retired Soldier Sailor. He writes this.
Cautionary tale. Nothing is free. A cheap vacation just might be the death of you. I liked it. It made my looking forward to another birthday, 6th of August, 1949, a little less grim for me. Watch it. Unless you're nearing your 90th or 100th one. Oh, boy. Wow. And he titled this, Ah, yes, the story of a bunch of folks that grow older a lot quicker than they wanted to. Five stars.
This one is from Ashley Sanchez. Ashley Sanchez says, I can't wait to watch this one. My husband watched it already. My turn next. Five stars. So she's getting on. Hasn't watched it yet, but five stars. Five stars and just the anticipation, like getting out there just to let people know she's going to get in. This one from AST says, Pro, fun ride, good acting, movie draws you in, con, story could have been more cohesive. Yeah.
Could have done without the nudity. Was there nudity?
Just a butt shot, right? It was just like the skinny dipping woman. Yeah. I think you just see her butt, but that was it. That was five stars there. Yeah. And then, you know, there were a couple of third opinions, which we don't normally do, but these are one star reviews. And I just like this one from Ashley Reynolds. I went to the theater to see this movie and I've never been so disappointed. The only interesting part was the calcium lady. And that was only for two seconds. Oh my God. Yeah.
And a lot of people just enjoyed the ride. People have been defending this as a straight up comedy. And they're like, you should be looking at it as a comedy. Do we agree with that? No. Yeah, no, I don't think so. No, I don't think I don't think I certainly don't think that's the filmmakers intent. Yes. I understand why people might approach it from that point of view. But I don't think that's your audition, Paul. Well, as a comedy, we will see in just a second. Originally, this was shot as a three camera sitcom. Yeah.
Old came out and it was shot that way. It was shot like the league was shot. Everyone just standing in a row like so many big, giant, full cast scenes. I was thinking about it. I was like, this scene has eight people in it on a beach. This must be awful. Wind. Everything must be 80 yard. This must have been crazy. I mean, especially the Philadelphia winter. You have to be in those beach scenes like that.
Tagline of this movie was, it's only a matter of time. The budget, $18 million. The opening weekend was $16 million. It actually made $48 million and it made $90 million worldwide. So this is pretty big. It came in 20th out of all the movies made in 2021. And it must have cost nothing. Well, the budget, $18. Oh, $18 you said. $18, yeah. That's more than I would have thought. Well, maybe for all the COVID tests. Yeah.
But here's the interesting thing. The only time that M. Night has ever done somebody else's work, this is an adaptation of a graphic novel written in 2010 by writer Pierre-Oscar Levy, and it's called Sandcastle. And it's that and the other movie we actually did on this show, The Last Airbender. Those are the only two times that he has gone away from his own work to kind of do a preexisting piece. Got it.
But yeah, so that's some of the stuff there. And now you've waited long enough. I haven't watched this since I put this up. And oh my God, I'm nervous. I'm like legit nervous. Please don't judge me on this. I did it by myself. It was late at night. This is so good. Late at night? Oh my God. Oh yeah, because I was like, I was too embarrassed to do it. All right, here we go. Oh, you look so cute. Adorable. All right.
This is amazing. I like you guys immediately. You seem like a really nice family and I...
You know, I'd love to arrange a van to take you over there. You'd like. Great. Well, it'll be our little secret then. I'll make all the arrangements. Okay. Thank you. And there you go. Okay. First of all, are you open to feedback, Paul? Can we give notes? Yes. Give me notes. Okay. First of all,
I just adore you. And I'm biased because I mean, I love that man. I just love you. So there's that. But I do think that in that reading, I knew something was wrong about the excursion.
But so don't you think that you got that from the other guy? In Paul's reading? In Paul's reading. Really? I knew something was wrong. Whereas in the movie, I don't remember knowing something was coming that early. Oh, that's so interesting because my note was going to be the opposite. My note was going to be this man, the Paul that is in the audition tape,
seems to just be doesn't I didn't feel like the the underlayer of perhaps sinister that the man who did it in the movie had the man who did it in the movie had like a like something was felt off. And listen, you're you're always going to lose out to a redhead. Look, I'm going to lose out to it. Is that is that the case? We've been always always. Always.
If it's not you, it's a redhead. Like, forget it. I also do believe that the accent... Yeah, that's why I'm always losing parts to the guy that played Tormund Giantsbane on Game of Thrones. He's like me, but redhead. I will say that because I also...
I didn't know anything about the plot. There was nothing given to me. It said resort manager. So I was coming in simply as... You didn't know that there was like a... I didn't know what even... There was nothing given to me. And to that end, you did a great job as the... Resort man. ...smiling kind of... So good to see you. We have this, we have that. You know, like, yeah. But I will say this. I think at the end of the day, someone who is not American is going to be more interesting in that part because...
I feel like I...
I don't read. There was a brief moment where you said, Ola. And I was like, is Paul going to be doing a foreign accent? No, no. I played up the Ola. Like I was like, Oh, you know, like I was like, yeah, like just trying to be like a brief second. Interesting though, that I thought it was a little overdone and Jason thought it was a little underdone. So, you know, just this sinisterness. This just felt like a happy go lucky hotel manager guy. Like I would have cast you in the hotel manager in like forgetting Sarah Marshall. You know what I mean?
You know what I mean? White Lotus. I would take it. I was in that movie. I was in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I don't know. Wow. That's awesome. Did you audition for it? I have been cast in a movie. I've sent out an audition and I've been cast. Wow. Which is always a nice feeling. So cool. Yeah.
We've all been cast, right? We can all agree that we've all been cast. We've all been cast in things usually predicated on an audition. A lot of times on an audition. But sometimes people come to us and say, hey, we want that. And maybe if, you know, whatever. I don't want to get into any of that. I thought you did a great job. You look adorable. I mean, I did that all by myself. I cut out everybody else's lines. I know. And you were totally off book.
which I never am for auditions. That was great. And you know, I wonder actually if you didn't have the beard, if you would have had a better shot. Interesting. Like the guy that got the part though, has a beard, but a red one, Jason, but it's the American thing of it. It's the American thing. Would you, I mean, I think we've already kind of discussed this, but I'll just go around, around Robin. Would you recommend people watch old?
Yeah, I enjoyed this movie. This is a movie that I was happy to sit with and be with. And does it, is the impact there at the end? No, absolutely not. It's not, but there's some really interesting themes explored that I was really curious about. For me, it went down very smoothly. I thought it looked beautiful and I was, yeah,
Again, I'm also saying this- Sounds like it's your favorite movie of the year. Yeah, wow. I loved it. In the canon of the movies we watch, I did enjoy watching this movie. Now, does that mean it's amazing? No, but it was a smooth ride for me. I will say that it was-
not a slog to get through. And we, Jason and I both lamented that you weren't here for The Uninvited because I know you got to watch a lot of that over my shoulder, which is a movie that you were saying that you wish you could have, yeah, you know, been on the podcast for. But I do agree that it was not...
There are a lot of things about it that are interesting. And I was expecting to be more emotionally impacted. Like I said, I can cry at a commercial. I can cry at a lot. It's very easy to push me over the edge. And this one, I felt like it was a cool conception. No, I'm not. Did you get pushed over the edge by this movie? I mean, I guess it brought up a lot of trauma for you because you didn't get the part. Yeah.
And you didn't get either part. You know. So you think now you're punishing the movie because of that. I might be looking at it through, you know, whatever the opposite of rose-colored glasses are. Shit-colored glasses? Shit-colored glasses, yeah. I'm going to say, you know, I'm somewhere in between you guys, I think. I enjoyed, I certainly enjoyed elements of it. I think the movie is really...
helped by the fact that I think the cast is fantastic. I'm sorry to say that to your face, Paul. You felt like the casting in the movie across the board, Jason. I felt like they nailed it. I felt like they nailed it. Wow.
I feel like they nailed the casting. I will say this. I will say, honestly, after seeing... No one hit a false note. I will say... Especially the hotel manager and Ken Leung. Like, those two performances were flawless. I can't imagine anybody else in the world. Oh, God damn, this hurts me. I will say this. I don't often hold grudges against parts I don't get.
And I didn't in this either. When I did see it, I was like, that guy actually did a great... I mean, he creates an energy, but that was exactly what I said in the beginning. Everyone was a little bit weird and off. And if I would have... And that was the thing. Everyone was...
There was no twist because in the beginning I knew something was not right. Even from when the mom was watching the family through the window, like things are off, things are off. And that's why I felt like, like the movie is clumsy. The movie is, you know, like, like I said, wants to have its cake and eat it too. It's, it's, it's uneven. It's too long, but the performances are so good from both the adults and the kids, especially that I felt like I, I enjoyed watching it as well. It's like a total, it's a good afternoon watch.
You know, it's like I would not I would not I would be disappointed if I was like if I'd gone to the theaters to see this or if I had if I had like been like, oh, this is going to be my Saturday night movie. I would be like, oh, that's a bummer. This was not what I this wasn't as good. But if I if you put this on it like four o'clock and just kind of like watch it, I'd be like, oh, yeah, four o'clock movie. It's a four o'clock.
movie. I like a four o'clock movie and some commercial breaks in there and you kind of are washing dishes or organizing some vinyl, whatever you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Washing vinyl, organizing dishes, whatever you're doing. See, and I think it's also an 8 p.m. to almost 11 manicure pedicure. Yeah, that's a type of movie. I don't understand. Yeah. You know, I don't have that. But I get what you mean. Yes. Um,
Yeah, no. And so I think I think people will have fun if you've listened to this and you're intrigued. Yeah, it's a it's a one idea movie. It's a to Paul's point, it's a Twilight Zone episode. And it's and it's not bad. It just it just it is. It could have been even way better. I think it just needed. I wonder if it was rushed into production, you know, or something, because I think there could have been some edges smoothed off because even the big pharma ideas and it's
If I sat down and told you this, that's a cool idea for a movie. It just it felt like it. That's the premise is more interesting, I think, than some of the execution, even though I feel like the actors are doing their best to get above all of that.
Yes. Now, look, you might have a different opinion about this. You might want to talk to me about this. You might want to talk about your life. You might want to talk about this movie. You can do that. Give me a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 619-Paul-Ask. We'll play it on the mini episodes. We'll talk about your problems. We'll talk about this movie. You can also get on our Discord at discord.gg slash H-E-T-G-M, where we have our new home. And it's very easy to sign up. It's totally free. Everyone's been loving it. We have great mods there. It's a safe space.
And you can check that out. I also want to plug, I'm going to go first on plugging right now, our friend, a friend of the show, How Did This Get Made All-Star, Seth Rogen, has a podcast called Storytime out, which is really fantastic. It's this deep dive into people's
weird stories from being attacked by a bear to listening to David Crosby talk about his friendship with George Harrison. They're very produced stories with Seth as this like narrator, circus kind of ringleader bringing you through this like
story that comes to life in this podcast. The podcast is called Storytime and I am on this week's episode. It's called The Crappiest Place on Earth and it's all about me finding out that I am lactose intolerant at Disney World when I was a child. It's hilarious. I listened to it. I loved it.
Oh, that's great. I'm excited. So it is available right now. You can listen to it. It is called Storytime with Seth Rogen. When you said earlier that it was based on a graphic novel. Yes. And you said it was called Sandcastle? Yes. Boom. Whoa. Oh, wow.
You have it there. I own this book. Have you not read it? I did not put it together. I think I read it years ago. I think I read it years ago and literally didn't put it together until you said Sandcastle. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. I know that. Wow. Well, you have to get back on the mini episode, read it, and let's have a little discussion, a little talk back about it. Yeah, we'll totally talk about it. So that's so funny. You said that and that was the trigger in my brain that was like, oh, wait, I own that book. I love that. Jason, what do you got?
Um, the new animated show Star Trek Prodigy is out. It's on Paramount+. I play one of the crew members on this kind of younger, skewing kind of team of Star Trek adventurers. It's kind of in the mold of like Avatar The Last Airbender or Star Wars Rebels. It's a great inside Star Trek canon. Kate Mulgrew reprising her Captain Janeway character, and it's a really fantastic
fun kids adventure show. And also, I'll say with that, Jason. Yeah, go ahead. With that, it puts you, me, and June all in Star Trek. We all now live in the same Star Trek universe. And I was just going to say, I have been watching Lower Decks and it is, I'm plugging my Star Trek show, but now I'm going to plug yours. And I'm going to plug yours.
I've been, I'm almost through season one of Lower Decks and it is also on Paramount Plus and it is fantastic. It's really funny, right? It's like, it's so funny. It's such a good show. I'm loving it. So I will also plug, so I'll plug both of our Star Trek shows, both Prodigy and Lower, because season two of Lower Decks just came out recently, right? Yes. And it's, and there, we're at work on season three right now. Um,
Can I, this isn't a plug, but watching this movie made me think of, there's a Mike Mills who made Beginners and has the new movie Come On, Come On coming out. He, along with the band The National, made a short film that's like 27 minutes long and it's called I Am Easy to Find. It's on YouTube. Oh, wow. And it is, I thought of it while watching this movie because it unfolds over the course of one person's entire life. Yeah.
And so that is the story. So it's it is about aging. It is about all these all the a lot. It's a much better. It's a much better piece of art that gets at a lot of the themes that are inside of this movie. It are much more interestingly explored in this short film that Mike Mills did with the band, the National Alicia Vikander stars in it. And it's interesting.
It is incredible. I cannot recommend it enough. It is called I Am Easy to Find, and it's on YouTube. So you can just watch the whole thing. And it is different than the album. This is just the video. Yes, this is a single black and white short. A big shout out to our super producer, Cody, our audio engineer, Devin, our amazing movie picking producer,
Avril Halle, our researcher Nate Kiley, our quality-controlled July Diaz, and our MVP Molly Reynolds. I want to say thank you to all the people who do the art for the show. That is Kyle Waldron and, of course, Zach McAleese, who is the ghost of Craig T. Nelson on Instagram. Like I said, join us in the mini-episode. Maybe Jason will be there. We'll talk some more. We'll hear about this comic book. And give us a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 619-Paul-Asked. We'll see you next time. Bye for now. I'm just gonna be here now.
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