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Quetzalcoatl is a god from the past. Is this a sci-fi film or a crime story? Who even cares? This flick flies by so fast. 92 improv minutes to be precise. It's Q, the winged serpent on how did this get made? And it's talking opinions.

As we go to the reviews, do you think you'll be swayed? This is by far so bizarre, but they gave it five stars. Amazing! Yeah! Give it up! Hello, all you undercover mimes. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Q, the winged serpent, a movie that Discord user MaximumDerek thinks should have had the tagline,

Cue the winged serpent. More improv than dinosaur. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you, Maximum Derek, for plugging my own show. Yes, dinosaur. We just got off a big week-long tour on the East Coast. For more info, you can check out my website. But that's not a plug. I don't want to be plugging right now. I want to be applauding Maximum Derek.

Thank you, Maximum Derek, for that alt tagline. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to our Discord, right? Just jump on there, put it up, and maybe, just maybe, if you plug one of my shows or my book, or it's just plain funny, we will select you for this highly, highly coveted spot of...

Alt tagline. I don't know. We don't have a title for that, but you won. You won something there. All right. Coming up on today's episode, you'll be hearing all of your corrections and omissions on Q, the winged serpent. Then Jason will stop by to chat with me about the music and the podcast that we are currently listening to. And you're going to want a pen because we're going fast and there's a lot of good suggestions in there. Plus, as always, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. Heads up. Our live stream. How did this get made? It's doing a live stream. It's available all around the world. It's on December 12th.

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Last week, we did talk about Q, the winged serpent. We had questions, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is time for Corrections and Omissions. It's time for Corrections and Omissions. We've got a couple things wrong, but we're going to fix that right now. That's why we're singing this song. We're going to take a couple phone calls. Maybe you know something we don't. Perhaps we can change our business.

Thank you, Brash Menagerie, for that theme song. Let's go to the Discord. All right.

This is what we got here. Mick G3D writes, can we talk about how after they shot and killed the bad guy who was doing the sacrifices at the end, they just left the body in the room, closed the door and put a do not disturb sign on it and walked away. Like how little do they care about who is going to come and clean that room?

Mick G3D, we talked about that in the show. It was crazy. Not only do they not care, they put a like a little sign there for the maid to find the body. All right. So this is a cop who who was on. He's in the scene of a crime. He committed an act.

of violence, he should be filing a report, but no, he just leaves it for the maid. That's the 70s for you. Cops, you shoot them, you go home. There's no reports to file back then. Sean McBee writes, Paul's tidbit about the real scientist examining the abandoned nest long after the production had wrapped came from writer-director Larry Cohen himself on the film's commentary track. Larry said the story was on the front page of the New York Times.

I was curious, so I went to the New York Times archives to attempt to find this article. I searched every conceivable term that might turn up the story, and what I found is...

Oh, no. I know what you're doing, Sean. Larry Cohen is a big, fat liar. Okay, not only was this never a New York Times front page story, but there was never a story about this in the New York Times or anywhere else because it never happened. Larry claimed that anthropologists descended on New York, curious about the mysterious nest found in an abandoned police station as if it were a nest built by the ancient Vandals.

Lunapa tribe of Manhattan and the city constructed a police station around it. No one who finds that fake ass looking nest in an abandoned building is calling scientists. They're calling trash pickup. Well, Sean McBee, it sounded odd. I agree, but I had to share it. And I'm glad that you were able to call out that Larry Cohen loves science.

to make up a good story, as we all know because we loved Q, the winged serpent. All right. Lovely Lizette writes, I thought for sure Paul was going to mention it in the episode. Uh-oh. What did I do, Lizette? The woman who plays Carradine's wife was his actual wife at the time. Okay. You thought I was going to mention that. Is that interesting? We'll see. Also, the sacrifice victim was played by Carradine's brother. I'm going to bet that both castings were due to the short-

notice of pre-production. I agree. I agree. That's actually, you made a good point at the end. I didn't know if it was worthy of mentioning it because Carradine's wife is barely in the movie and the sacrifice victim is barely, again, these are, you know, small parts, but you're right. I think that that probably just speaks to the fact that they were so rushed and

They're just, you know, calling anybody to get to come on down. I mean, look, the director is in the movie as a sacrifice victim. He just threw himself in there. That's what I'm talking about. That's movie making. That's 824, 1970 style. All right, let's go to the phones. Rory from New Orleans. What do you got?

Paul, I was a minute or two into the Q episode, and I noticed that you scoffed at the idea of a robbery homicide unit. That is what most cop units call that. Like, if you look up any city's RHD division, and Jason should know this as a big Bosch fan, RHD is a big part of Bosch. Robbery homicide is the...

common denominator. That's what they call that. So look it up. Look up, you know, Corpus Christi RHD. It's a thing. Bye! Worry? Thank you. As a Bosh fan, I am embarrassed. I've watched all seasons of Bosh, and I'm very excited for the new Bosh spinoff. I guess what I found weird was that they were investigating them both simultaneously. It's like, we got robberies, we got murders. I guess what you're saying is...

They're doing both. They're doing both simultaneously. So if a bank is being robbed, that's the same person who's also investigating a serial killing. If that's what you're saying, then I found it hard to believe that those same cops are doing both jobs. I would think that there would be a specialization on some level, but Rory,

I'm going to believe you just like I believed Larry Cohen, that the same cops who are investigating a serial killer often also are solving robberies. All right. And you're probably right. I'm saying it like disbelieving, but you probably are right. Well, first of all, let me say this. I never saw Bosch bopping back and forth between I saw them doing a robbery homicide, but I didn't see them doing like a robbery murder.

End of homicide. I still don't believe you, but I know you're right. All right. Ashley from California, what do you got? Hey, Paul. So the latest episode, Cue the Winged Serpent. So I am a public school teacher, a fifth grade teacher in the state of California. And we have a story in our reading comprehension curriculum called

called How the Fifth Sun Came to Be, which is an Aztec myth which features the god Quetzalcoatl, which is Q, the winged serpent. So I just wanted to share that little bit of information as we are shaping young minds here in the state of California. Bye.

Ashley, you are shaping the best young minds. We need to bring back Quetzalcoatl in schools. Gavin Newsom, I hope you're listening because we need Quetzalcoatl in every school. We need the Book of the Suns. By the way, speaking of which, we do have an amazing shirt that we just made at TeePublic. It is called The Winged Serpent. I mean, what else would it be called? I guess, is that Quetzalcoatl? I don't know.

I didn't know that he was a winged serpent like that. But I love that you're teaching that. And please, if anyone else is teaching that, let me know what the kids think about Quetzalcoatl. All right, back to the Discord. Del Preston writes, one thing I noticed during the end credits was the song, in quotes, Michael Moriarty played in the bar was actually listed as the only song on the soundtrack. He just made that whole thing up on the spot, obviously, but they still credited it.

And it was titled Evil Dream. And at the end of the episode, you played that scene with him and Candy Clark, where he says, I get all this evil dream, you know, evil dream, go away. And I didn't put two and two together while I was watching it.

But a couple days ago, I realized it was obviously a callback to his song, and he's harking back to the lyric slash title of the song, which is why he says it in a sing-songy weird way. Del Preston, hold on to your butt, because this might be the winning one. I mean, right now, you just uncovered something that blows my mind.

This is what Michael Moriarty is doing. It's one of the best performances of all time. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I love this Del Preston. All right. Joel from Chicago. All the things he speculated about improvising scenes, shooting without permits, letting actors run wild were par for the course for Larry Cohen and

His maverick, okay, reckless approach and sense of humor are well-loved among cinephiles, no less than Martin Scorsese is prominently featured in a great documentary about Larry called King Cohen. We know Larry as a B-movie legend, but he also infiltrated the A-picture realm, or at least mainstream Hollywood, for penning scripts for Phone Booth and...

the How Did This Get Made favorite, Cellular, which is essentially Phone Booth. So I guess he had a phone-related fixation for a bit. He even wrote a movie directed by the legendary Sidney Lumet, Guilty as Sin. And now here's a note from our producer, Scott. Cohen actually also co-wrote Cellular with Chris Morgan, who wrote and produced several Fast and Furious movies. Yes, Chris Morgan, legend. And here's what I'm going to say. I have a feeling that Larry Cohen wrote Cellular.

And then Chris Morgan was given that script to punch up and he added so much of his own stuff that they got a co credit on it. That would be my guess. I don't think that Chris Morgan and Larry Cohen were just in like a coffee bean and tea leaf, you know, slamming out pages on that one. That is great. And I have to watch King Cohen. I know everyone's so happy that we did cue the winged serpent. I am too.

If there's any more Larry Cohen that we should watch, let us know. Django2108 writes, Michael Moriarty is actually a genius with his tarp over the building obsession. Anyone who owns a winged creature knows that if you cover their cage, they go right to sleep.

Well, that is true, right? Yeah. If they drop a tarp on the building while Q is in there, it would be an easy kill or capture. A much better solution than shooting randomly at the top of a building. All right, well, Django2108. I had birds growing up. My stepfather had birds and we would put the tarp over. But here's the thing you're missing. That's for birds.

Not dinosaurs. I mean, that is a winged creature. You called it out. I don't know if the same rules apply for like parakeets and parrots as a winged serpent. That's a serpent, not a bird. A serpent. Anyway.

Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but I'm not going to lie. I already said it. There's one winner, and that winner is Del Preston, who did the hard work. He let this movie infiltrate his brain, and he found a connection to something so obscure that I think this is one of the best corrections and omissions that we've had in a very long time. Bringing it back old school, Del Preston, you are our winner, and you get nothing back.

But this amazing song from Joel Terry. Hit it! You win, everybody else all loses. You don't get a medal to prove it. But you don't need no accolades. You can sit back and say, I win tonight on Paul's mini episode. I win tonight.

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Okay. But coming up after the break, Jason will join us for a classic Just Chat. I want to remind you that if you are a fan of the deep dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Rayfield, they are doing a holiday live stream. You can get tickets for that also at hdtgm.com. It's going to be a lot of fun. I just built a brand new studio and they're going to be christening it. That's going to be a great, fun show. Now,

Before we go to commercial, I have a bonus scene from our Q, the winged serpent live show. This is exclusive just to you. Last looks listeners. I mean, it's not that exclusive, but it's exclusive enough. Here we go. Check it out. I did like about the cops and their relationship. I feel like in a lot of cop movies that came after this, everybody seems so young. And these guys together, David Carrey, David, let's like, oh, they're old. They're old, but rest assured they fuck.

Oh, the thousand percent. But, like, there's something nice about that. Again, this movie is a movie that purports that the NYPD is about six dudes who cover all the cases. Yeah. Like, because it seems like Richard Roundtree is...

Like, why would he even ever be talking to Michael Moriarty's character? There is no reason to. And that's the thing. Are they detectives? Are they, do they have a, like, I could, are they patrol? And then also, David Carradine is leading the operation to also take down Q from the top.

of the building. Like there doesn't seem to be... Well, he's also interested in pursuing, you know, Q as a winged serpent and Richard Roundtree is like, this is bullshit. I will not abide this. Like they're at odds, which is strange. What's so funny to me is also like David Carradine...

went home and wrote like a book report about Quetzalcoatl like he's like here's my report my report is here and he got evidence like police reports are like we came in we saw this like he seems like he wrote a book report about trying to give some background information and by the way I would have loved to have read that report oh it looks like it was in a nice folder it reminded me of something that I might have done

Somebody should have given more of like an expositional download. I would have appreciated it. Yes, me too. Well, we have that whole walk and talk, the very awkward walk and talk. We have two of them, one outside of Columbia and one inside the museum where they really try to break down. Now, I thought one of the guys who was sacrificed at the end was one of those professors. Quite possibly. Was it? Was it? Was it? Oh, okay.

Interesting. All right, I like that. Do we ever really get insight into what they are up to? I don't know. Who they represent? What they're all about? I mean, I think that they're just trying to bring back Quetzalcoatl. That's it? Good news. He's here. You know when you go get your car serviced

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Do something a little bit musical here as well. So this week's episode was Cats. Next week's will be Spice World. So we'll keep that music alive through the Thanksgiving holidays. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Monday. And now, without any further ado, it is time to just chat with Jason. And to play us in, we have a special theme in the style of jizz music from the Star Wars universe. Yes, we've talked about this a lot.

The music in Star Wars is called jizz. That's not a joke. It's real. So move over, Max Rebo Band. It is time to hear the Action Jackson 5's jizz chat theme. I love it. Here we go. Jason and Paul just chat.

Talk about comics and movie biz. June's got a bad feeling about this. Star Wars music and all that jizz. Jason and Paul just chat. Jason, oh my gosh, it's been far too long. Here we are. Here we are, November. Here we are.

It is fall, baby. And if you're listening to this right now, we're probably on the East Coast. Yeah, we've been doing shows. So come out, see us do shows. And of course, so excited for our Christmas show that's coming up. Our virtual live stream. Has the movie been announced for that? Do we know what we're watching? It's called Christmas Mail. Christmas Mail? M-A-I-L or M-A-L-E? M-A-I-L. And it seems to be about a mailman. I think that's not quite the title. Let me look it up.

Producer Scott interrupting the flow. It's called We've Got Christmas Mail. Oh, okay. We've Got Christmas Mail. So playing off of the AOL You've Got Mail, but it's now We've Got Christmas Mail. Jeez.

Geez, this is a 2010 classic. Oh, 2010. I was going to say, like, to be using the AOL catchphrase at this point does seem insane. Well, what's so kind of interesting is I've been looking at this poster because I make all the ads. That's, you know, the way we do it here. And the Weave Got is very tiny.

Christmas mail is very big. It almost looks like the Christmas mail, but we've got, I'm just like, how did I miss? We've got it. Yeah. So tiny. We've got, it's very strange. And is this a, um, does somebody turn into something? Does an anime? Look, I want to enjoy it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know a thing. I know that April, uh, found this, uh,

And she never misses with the holiday films. I know a lot of people wanted to do Frosty Hot or whatever. Frosty Hot? There's a few out there that people wanted to do. There's a Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift one that Jessica's... Wait, what?

Yeah, Jessica sent it to me. Oh, no, it's not them. Oh, no. You're saying it's like based on that. I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, for a second, was like, wait, have they already done a movie together? That would be amazing. I would love to see. I would be thrilled. Yeah. I mean, I love that time of the year. I mean, when I go to my dad's house in New York, I'll just pop on Lifetime when I'm going to bed around Thanksgiving time, and it's already begun. Life is, you know, yeah. See, for me, that period of time I don't watch those movies, that is reserved for Gilmore Girls.

Okay. Gilmore Girls, like Thanksgiving to Christmas is peak rewatch Gilmore Girls season, which is incredible.

See, now, how many seasons are there of that? Seven seasons of Gilmore Girls, although season seven, I think you can put brackets around and never watch it again because it's the season where the Palladinos were fired from the show. So it feels like it feels like after season four of West Wing, where the driving force of the show and its unique voice has somehow disappeared. Yeah.

I will say while we're on the topic, I've started listening to the audio book, Kelly Bishop's audio book, The Third Gilmore Girl, aka Emily Gilmore. And it is dynamite. She reads it. It's fantastic. And you very kindly gave me a Gilmore Girls advent calendar.

Thank you, Paul. I was so excited to find that and get that for you. And I wanted to make sure you had it for day one. Can't wait. Day one. And here's the thing, Jason. You said seven seasons, but do you include the Netflix season?

Well, I didn't get there because I was going to say, and there is, of course, Amy Sherman Palladino does do her final season, which is, you know, 12 years later on Netflix, which is four movie length episodes, a year in the life is what it's called. Do you, you don't seem as,

Well, let me be clear. I think it's gangbusters with some fantastic cameos. Yours truly makes a cameo. But I think it's very uneven. I think, though, it is one of the best shows

Emily Gilmore storylines in the show. Emily Gilmore is like one of my favorite characters in the show. And I feel like doesn't get is kind of can oftentimes be relegated to like the villain or whatever. But her story overall and including those four episodes of the A Year in the Life are right. She's doing incredible work.

I think Kelly Bishop is amazing. Also amazing in Bunheads. But, you know, Emily Gilmore, I won't hear spoilers for a year in the life only because the actor Edward Herman has passed away, has long since passed away. Right. Who plays Richard Gilmore. And so her story is quite like incredibly one of just profound lofts and grief. And that is a very compelling story.

I love that. And just because I have not seen it, who do you play? Who do you cameo in there as? Oh, I play a zero. I play a nobody. I basically said, I will do anything. And they took that and they ran with it. So I am a lawyer who makes a 40-second telephone call to Rory Gilmore to fire her from a job she's had.

I work for a woman who's made a publishing deal with Rory, and it's played by Alex Kingston, River Song from Doctor Who, of course. Right. And so I'm in my only scene with her. That's it. Okay. I don't meet any of the Gilmore Girls. So you didn't get to go to Stars Hollow. I didn't go to Stars Hollow. I'm in a random building. I was there for like 40 minutes. It was the thrill of a lifetime. Oh, I can only imagine.

I mean, like, uh, I mean, what, what, uh, it, those are the best pop-ins pop in, pop out, especially when you're such, when you're, when you're a fan, it just feels cool. And I tried to play it cool and I was professional. And then when I was done, uh, and the Palladinos came over to say, thanks so much. I was, I started to give them a spiel about what a big fan I was and how much this meant to me. And they were like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. We, we heard. And that was it. Uh,

Oh my gosh. You know, we were talking this weekend, um, that my son has gotten into star Wars and, uh, we talked about a little bit. Um, and I have to tell you, did you see the trailer for skeleton crew? I,

I haven't watched it yet because I'm just going to watch the show. I'm just like, there are certain things that I'm like, oh, I'm so excited. I don't want to get spoiled. I don't want to know that this or that might happen. I, you know, I don't want to be waiting for, well, in the trailer, I saw that clip of blah, blah, blah. I don't care. I want it to all feel new.

You know what? I appreciate that. I was just trying to show him because my son now is like, well, why aren't there more things? Well, this is going to be right up your alley, kiddo. Watch out. We're watching Taskmaster Kids. We're watching Skeleton Girl. Love that. You've heard Paul and I talk about Taskmaster in the past.

James Acaster, a past Taskmaster contestant, just guested on our Dream a Little Dream episode, which perhaps is out by now or is imminent. But the new Taskmaster season that's airing right now is...

Rose Mattafeo, incredible Rose Mattafeo from... She's a Taskmaster contestant. She's starstruck. She's fantastic. Go ahead. She's great as the Taskmaster. It's a very different dynamic because it's kids. And...

It's fun, though. It's still very funny. And the first thing in got me hooked. They put their assistant, the new assistant for the show. Mike Wozniak is his name. Yes. They put Mike on a rotating circle, right? So it's a spinning around. Like a lazy Susan. A lazy Susan. And that's spinning. And he's wearing a very tall top hat. And the goal is get as many things into my hat as

Great. As you possibly can without stepping on the red that surrounds the lazy Susan. And my gosh, these kids right out of the gate figured out how to subvert that beautifully. And they got a, they got a lot of sass, these kids, you know, very simple task. Uh, but already I'm like, this is going to be a lot of fun.

So fantastic. He's also a favorite of mine from past Taskmaster seasons. Both of those two have been on fantastic seasons of the show. And I think they do a good job so far of making it feel very much like Taskmaster without... Look, there's certain things you can't do with kids. And I think rightly so. But it also is incredibly funny. Oh, so good. The only thing I wanted to tell you about Skeleton Crew, and I don't think this is a spoiler...

because it's not really a plot point. Oh, no, you can say anything to me. I'm happy to talk about it. Well, they got a kid, Max Rebo. Max Rebo, if you might remember from Return of the Jedi, plays the piano. Oh, he's playing jizz in Jabba's place. Jizz, the canonical music of Star Wars. Oh, my God, I hate that. How did they do that? I mean, what is...

Every time fanboys get all upset about George Lucas is infallible. George Lucas meant this. George Lucas meant that this is against. Just remember that he's, he created a music and called it jizz. Right? Like, what are you doing guys? I,

And the fact that there are certain things. How did it get so far? Because it's not like, oh, he wouldn't know what jizz means. Yep. But why keep it? Oh, no, it's too good. I love that there's a kid Max Rebo. Yeah, I saw that in a picture. That's what I was very excited about. I don't know much more about it.

It's got big Goonies vibes. It's just in case there might be people on in the audience who don't know what Skeleton Crew is. It's a new Star Wars series on Disney that is a group of kids. It's like a Goonies kid adventure with Jude Law as the adult.

And I think it's basically they, from what I understand, again, this is us talking out of school. They steal a ship. They steal a ship. And, and that's where the, the adventure begins. And it's John Watt who did the, right? It's John Watt who did the, the, and David Lowery is directing it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Directed some episodes. And also my, my friend, a director of twisters, uh,

uh, Isaac Chung, he directed as well. And David Lowery, if you don't, if you aren't familiar, does, has done everything from like Pete's dragon to the green night and you know, all the ghost story and all these incredible movies. He's one of the great like visual stylists of our time. Well, you know what? All I'll say is, uh, when it comes out,

Make sure you set some time aside to watch an almost Christmas story, an animated holiday short by David Lowery produced by Alfonso Cuaron. It has John C. Reilly is in it, Natasha Lyonne, Jim Gaffigan. It is a beautiful story.

stop motion animation piece that he did that you will absolutely love. Is this new? Is this something that's available right now? It is available. I believe by this time it will be available. Yeah. Great. So maybe we'll put it in the show notes or something. Yes. A link or something. Almost Christmas story on Disney plus inspired by the events of a tiny owl named Rocky, who was found at the Rockefeller center Christmas tree in 2020. That's how it all goes. And wow. I, I,

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Sure, sure, sure. So I'm going to shout out a couple of live shows I've seen and in doing so shine light on those artists as well. So one of them we've talked about a million times before, I know you weren't able to make it, but June was Joni Mitchell at the Hollywood Bowl. Absolutely brilliant.

I mean, like a like a Hall of Fame concert for me, like a one like I know we had an incredible time in Seattle last year. And this was like that, just like it just also was at the bowl, which was which was awesome, you know. And I saw her do like a little version of what we saw in Seattle with Brandi Carlile. But this really I heard was like.

her show. She ran it. So in Seattle, I'll say like in, in Newport and Seattle, the, the first two kind of Joni comes out of not retirement, but it comes out in this plane again, she seemed really kind of still recovering from her ailments and illnesses and a Brandy Carlisle doing an incredible amount of work to kind of, um,

doing guide vocals and doubling Joni and really keeping it moving. At the Bowl, this was Joni's show. She felt healthy and robust, and she was in beautiful voice. And the set list was incredible because it was all, like, my favorite Joni. It was all, like, 80s and 90s Joni Mitchell. It was, like, Hegira, and she played half of Hegira. She played songs off of Mingus, off of Dog Eat Dog. She played three songs off of...

off of night ride home which is like a 90s album that i love uh incredible song list uh she played some hits but not nearly as many as i think people wanted it was a absolutely stunning show um and just great and her archives have continued to be uh releasing there was a great box set recently of live era joni recordings from the asylum years and and beyond there's great stuff in there um

I saw Destroyer, Dan Behar from New Pornographers, and, you know, of course, Destroyer. Can I ask you a question about, Joni? When we were in Seattle, it felt to me like that concert was being taped. We saw drones. We saw many things. Yes.

A word on that. So that's Cameron Crowe. So Cameron Crowe has been making a Joanie documentary for years. Okay, got it. So this is part of a larger thing. And he was shooting this as well at the Bowl, I believe. There was cameras all over the place. So I'm assuming that all of that footage is for his documentary. That's my assumption. I could be wrong. Maybe there's something else going on or multiple things going on. But I do know, and I did see him in...

uh, Seattle. Uh, so I know he's still doing that. And at the time of the taping, as I just Googled him just a few hours ago, he had his third baby. Cameron Crowe. Yep. At 67 years old, has a baby. Wow. His, uh, first with his girlfriend. Um, and, uh, yeah, there it is. Holy cow. Third kid out there. Yeah, there you go. Good work. Good work. Cameron Crowe.

So, yeah, so Destroyer. Destroyer, incredible show at the Lodge Room here in Los Angeles, which I love. Beautiful room. I went to the Terragram Ballroom a couple of weeks ago. Love that venue. Love that venue. Love that venue. Great, great folks who work there. And I saw the incredible guitar player, Emdu Mokhtar, who is a Nigerian musician.

Guitar player, desert blues kind of guitar player, just shredding guitar solos, overdriving rhythms. Fantastic show. Got to meet him briefly and was absolutely fascinating. Super interesting guy to talk to. I am a big fan of...

Destroyer and I am bummed that I missed that. I don't go to see concerts anymore. I feel like it's, I'm so bummed. Well, there's some good ones coming up. I also went and saw last week just before we had our shows at Largo. Yeah. Mary Lattimore, who I saw in London, had a show at Largo where she played duets with her mom and it was incredible, who also plays harp. So it was two harps on stage. It was stunning. The show was phenomenal. The way that I heard that show described,

was really amazing. They said that, you know, normally in a show that is a little quieter, inevitably you'll hear the cough, the rapper, whatever it is, like those things that kind of take you out of it. And our friend Michael was like, it was deadly silent and everyone was in a frenzy.

full trance enjoying the music. He said it was never, never had been. And this is a person who works at Largo. He never has. He's seen a show where everyone was so locked in on the same page. It was, he's right. I, that's how I felt. Every, it was, everybody was like completely engaged and wrapped by the show. It was, it was so beautiful. And you know, it is quiet. So you have to be quiet to, to listen to it and to hear it. And it was so,

So beautiful and so moving. The show itself was fantastic and also so, like, lovely to see Mary interacting with her mom. And her mom was just a hilarious character and was wonderful. And the mom played songs by herself. Mary played some songs by herself. And then they played songs together. It was just a fantastic show.

Loved it. Loved it. Loved it. And just for people who might be in Los Angeles, I think this is probably out there already, but Mary is going to be doing a residency at Zebulon in Frogtown in January. So I think you can see you'll have...

I think a bunch of opportunities to see her play, which is I really urge you to avail yourself of the opportunity to see her as much as you can, because quite often every show she has different guests. She's like one of music's great collaborators in that she is constantly bouncing off of other people's

an accordion player, a guitar player, all sorts of different stuff, which leads to such different, um, avenues of exploration. So fantastic, um, experience going to see Mary Lattimore. I have to say, uh, you know, I, I met a guy in a band and I think we were talking about this, maybe backstage a little bit. Uh,

I also want to recommend the Wolves of Glendale, which are a funny band. But I know that that's like a hard way to kind of... But they're a band band. They're a band band. They play great music. Their songs are great. They're on tour right now. Check them out online if you want to check out a song. I'd say start with The Gym and then see what you think. But they are on tour, and I just met them right before they left tour. And they told me, Ethan, one of the members of the band, said, you know, I just watched Trap.

And I got to listen to your episode before I left. And I said, well, you better be careful because, you know, you're playing a lot of these gigs. There might be a butcher out there for you. It might be a trap. Yeah. And I think. Oh, that's funny. I think that we're going to be in D.C. on the same night as them. So we wanted to meet up and say, hey. Oh, that's great. I met some of them. They played at.

When we were picketing at Paramount one day, they came down, set up, and played. And it was... I had no idea. They were great. Everybody was so excited they were there and so excited they were playing. It was a blast. They probably played for 30 minutes while everybody was walking in the big circle. And it was awesome. They were great. I got to meet them very briefly. Yeah, really funny guys. Really, really funny guys. And also just fun...

Like, that's the thing. Sometimes I feel like music takes a backseat when you have funny comedy bands, right? And this doesn't happen like that. No, I agree. That can be often the case, which is the jokes come first. And these guys are for real musicians. This is not a joke band. This is a rock, an indie rock band that happens to be clever and funny.

I love it. There's a new Yasmeen Williams album out that I cannot recommend enough. I think it's fantastic. And then Daryl Johns, who I'm like so obsessed with from a song he put out like two years ago. This guy has only had like one song on Bandcamp for years that I was obsessed with.

And then finally, he's got a new album out. And it's so far, the tracks I've heard are great. By now, the album is out. But as of this recording, it has yet to come out. There's only a couple of tracks and they're fucking fantastic. So Daryl Johns, can't recommend that enough. I think super interesting. Great. There's a lot of great music happening right now. Geordie Greep.

from Black Midi, the British post-punk band. Black Midi has a solo album. There's new Waxahachie. There's new Florist. Come on, guys. There's great. The new Jowby record, the LA jazz ensemble, absolutely fantastic record.

Yeah. Porridge Radio, new music from Porridge Radio. New music from The Innocence Mission? What? A band that existed, a Christian folk rock band from my college years have just put out a new record? Come on. Wow. Great work.

I love all this. You know, we've threatened it, but I think that people have been trying to keep up with all your recommendations. There is a lot of Spotify lists. If you go onto our Discord, you'll see people are trying to... I've got to figure this out. How to make a... I want to make a playlist, but it's very difficult. You just give it to me and I could get it... Oh, maybe that's it. Just write it up and I'll just do it. I'll label it as that and that will be it. Just tell me what you want on it and I will show it to you before I do that. You know, look, I know that it's a couple weeks out now, but how are you feeling about...

You know, John Dutton on Yellowstone, Jason. I mean, a lot of people are, you know, is he dead? We don't know. I mean, you know, I think we're all... You know, it's... Are Yellowstonians? What's going to happen? I mean, it looks like he... Look, it looks like he killed himself. It does. But I know that John Dutton is not a guy who's going to kill himself. It's not how he's going to go out. I don't know. I'm still curious. I hope it's in the shower thing. A very... Oh, it's a who killed JR? Yeah, I...

That would be incredible. If this new, like, Dallas-esque Western soap opera did a full-on dream season, that would be awesome. I feel so badly for Kevin Costner. I was joking about this the other day because he, look, he took a very big shot and made this, you know, horizon, this eight-hour epic, and God bless. And you know what? Look, I think we should be making big shots

We should take our shots. We should make our things. I don't know if you're reading the room 100% right by making an eight-hour-long epic Western, but I will say this. The way in which he left Yellowstone as if, buddies, go fuck yourself. I did it. I am going to be on another level. It's so crazy to me, too, because it's like unquestionably Yellowstone allows him to make Horizon at this level and on this scale, you know?

And you leave it. It's, uh, you know, not to recall one of our old films. Uh, it's the, it's the, the, the, the Jade issue. It's, it's our, our friend from NYPD. He's David Caruso. He's Caruso-ing this all the way. I mean, it's, and no one ever learns. Caruso did get back. He got back on the track, but, uh, but man, oh man. Did he? Did he what? On CSI Miami? Oh yeah. I mean, that, that is, I mean, how many seasons did he do that? I mean, I think he probably did a bunch. Uh,

Uh, it's my gosh. Yeah. You must've, I, it's always one of those things that surprises me. Like I remember I was talking to Ted Danson at one point and I knew that Ted Danson was on, uh, was on CSI. And I, and I was, I said to, I said to June on the way home, I was like, I wonder how many seasons Ted Danson was on CSI. I think it was like a season or two. And I Googled it and it was like seven seasons.

No. No. Wow. So four seasons. Four seasons. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Not bad. Not bad. Plus damages. And I think he did a spinoff, CSI Cyber. Oh, wow. I didn't know he was on Cyber. Yeah, he did CSI. I mean, as I'm saying, Cyber as well. Yeah.

We don't even know what these people are up to. Two seasons of that. Two seasons of cyber. Really? I mean, that is the golden age right there. When a CSI could support two seasons of cyber. That's it. We can't do that anymore. Michael Irby is on cyber. Oh, yeah. You know, you got a bunch of Vanderbeek cyber guys.

Peter McNichol, Cyber. Peter McNichol? Yeah. Patricia Arquette, Cyber. From Ghostbusters? I mean, this is what we're talking about. I mean, it does seem that Ted comes on in season two of Cyber. Okay. Wow, wow, wow. Since we were talking about things to listen to, I'm going to throw in a new podcast into the mix. One of my favorite long-running podcasts.

music podcasts is the great KCRW podcast Lost Notes. Okay. This new season of Lost Notes is all about groupies. So it's all about the groupies seen in the late 60s, early 70s, LA groupies, like wild, crazy stories. I'm also at the same time watching

The MTV three part documentary about like the 80s hair metal era of the whiskey and the sunset strip. So that's those two are overlapping quite a bit in kind of just straight insanity. Fantastic. I want to call out. Well, you know what?

Just because it's a podcast and we could talk about the other part of this podcast in a second. I will say that I have been loving the penguin on HBO. My friend, Amy Nicholson, she hosts the companion podcast to the penguin show. And wow.

It's been a great, like, I've never really done that where I've been able to time up my watch. That's one of my favorites. Great way to do it. That's one of my favorites with either, and it's usually either with Chris and Andy on the watch. Oh, right. They do a bunch of that. Yeah. Or with Mallory and Joanna on House of R. Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson are just the two of the greatest in the biz. Yeah.

And then I also will listen to Joanna Robinson and on the Prestige TV podcast where they've been talking about, you know, so all three of those cover shows that I watch. So I'm watching Slow Horses. So not only, of course, I love it's one of my favorite shows. But so then I'm also listening to all of the podcasts that are covering those episodes.

or Bad Monkey or whatever. Agatha. You know, all of those podcasts will then have watch-along, or not watch-along, rather, you know, episodic breakdowns of those episodes. I gotta get into more of that stuff. All right, well, Jason, this is great talking to you. We will reconvene in just a little bit.

All right. I hope you enjoyed that just chat, but now it is finally time to announce our next movie. We're going to be going from a shoddy cop story to a body swap. Corey, how do you like that alliteration? Next week, we will be doing the 1989 body swap comedy,

Dream a Little Dream, starring Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Piper Laurie, Meredith Salinger, and Jason Robards. Here is a breakdown of the plot. An accident swaps the minds of a married older man and a teenager chasing his dream girl.

Yes, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 9% score on the Tomatometer, and Roger Ebert from the Chicago Sun-Times wrote, the plot is a disorganized mess, and the director, Mark Rocco, seems unable to tell even this simple-minded story with any degree of clarity. Dream a Little Dream is an aggressively unwatchable movie, and I have to say, Roger is not wrong, but...

but at the same time, I found it to be interesting. I mean, it's long. It's too long. Would I recommend you watching this? Hmm. Maybe on a faster speed? I don't know. You gotta watch a little bit. But now listen to this bizarre trailer for Dream a Little Dream. Now, this trailer lives in my brain because I saw it a bunch as a kid, and it really kind of

Got me by surprise when I actually watched the movie because the trailer does not reveal that this is a body swap movie. So when I was watching this movie, I thought I was going to see a Corey movie. And no, it's a Corey Robards movie. Anyway, take a listen to the trailer. Sir, this is my IOU homework. My IOU homework, sir. Bobby and Dinger had high school down to a science. Perfection. Until Bobby decided to steal Miss Right from Mr. Wrong. Man, it's a party!

Who's got the chips? Now, one false move and their history. Jason Robards, Corey Feldman, Piper Laurie, Meredith Salinger, Harry Dean Stanton, Corey Hain. Hello, honey. Dream a Little Dream, rated PG-13, starts Friday at a theater near you. Dream a Little Dream is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video, Freebie, Tubi, and the Roku channel, as well as Plex.com.

In addition, I encourage you to check out Hoopla, Canopy, and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, e-books, and comics for free. All right, that is it for Last Looks. If you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Make sure that you are following us and you have automatic downloads turned on.

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