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A Special Episode About Comedy Specials

2021/3/19
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Nate Bargatze discusses the release of his new comedy special, The Greatest Average American, and the unexpected early viewership on Netflix.

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Surprise, folks! Got a little extra one in. No one knew it was coming. Not even basically you guys. Welcome. We decided if we're recording this today, my special is out right now. So this will come out tomorrow, the 19th. And we just wanted to do one. A, thank you to everybody. People have already watched the special. It comes out at 3 a.m. Eastern.

And you already got already got people that watched it. And which is nice. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, like sometimes people it's like, well, if you're in Pacific time, it's midnight. So that's not that hard to I was up to like 130 last night. Yeah. And so, you know, it's two here.

The last time I saw it, this time, I was pretty beat. And so I was like, I'm just going. It's going to come on. You were so close. I was so close. I know. And I just had stuff today. So I had to do a bunch of stuff. So I had to get up early. I had to wake up at 9.15. Come on. That's insane. Crack of dawn. Crack of dawn. 9.15. So I knew that was coming. I woke up the day before, 7.30.

I had to do morning radio yesterday. That's what you're calling Rogan now? Yeah. Morning radio. Yeah, Rogan's morning radio. Drop time.

So, no, after Rogan, after we taped Rogan that morning, I had to do, so you have to do radio tours. And so it's where you call, a guy calls your phone and then you just sit and go to different stations. So I'm just on the phone and he's like, all right, we're going to go first. It's a rock station in Indianapolis, you know, and tells me who they are. And then you go to it and you're just on the air. You're live? You're live. Sometimes they're pre-taping them and sometimes they're live.

And so you just click and you're on. They're like, what's sitting here with Nate Bargetti? He's got the greatest African-American special. And then he just starts talking to him, whatever.

And then you just, he's like, all right. And then when that one's done, he's like, all right, now we're going to Cincinnati. This is a country station. And then you're just on. And so you just do that for three hours. Wow. And I mean, there's times where you go, what city is this? You're just kind of rapid kind of firing. And if they go long, they're timed so fast.

the timing of it is like so scheduled that, I mean, some of them, I would be mid sentence and he's like, I'm like talking. I'm still like, yeah, you know, the special is exciting. The guy's like, all right, we left that one. We're in the next radio. And I'm like, oh, okay. And I'm just, then it's like, yeah, I'm excited about the special. He's in another talking to another place. And it was, it was very funny to how quick it, how quick it went.

So, yeah, so we wanted to do just kind of a, since the special's out, kind of a special episode. Also, the Nate Land live podcast taping. I don't know if you know, it is sold out. It is? It is sold out. Wow. Pretty crazy. Already sold out. Something that I know that I know that you guys do not know, though, is we are adding a second show. Oh, all right. I didn't know we were sold out, so. Yeah. Wow. Second show is added.

And it is on sale. And so at Zany's April 15th, we'll be doing two live Nateland podcast tapings. We're still figuring that show out, but I think it's good. I think it'll be good. I think it'll, I think it's gonna be comment heavy. I think it's going to be kind of a, you know, I'm hoping to get some live comments and all that kind of stuff and, you know, and, and do something more for all the, all, all, all the folks out there listening. Yeah.

So, uh, what we have, so the, the special, so yes, I, uh, promoted and has been, uh, pretty wild. We did, I went to Austin, I did Rogan, uh, which was the first time I, you know, I've told the story about meeting Rogan here. So that was my only really experience with him. I maybe a couple of times here and there I've been around, you know, cause I'm friends with all his friends.

But dude, he's the best. Just the best. I mean, a super humble guy, signed a giant Spotify deal, but just a real guy. Yeah. Comic.

He loves comedy, loves being a comedian. And that's, which is my favorite is because, you know, it's like guys that are true to like, no, dude, we're just, we all just look at ourselves as like, we're just road comics. Some people get to get up to the top. Some don't. It's like, but that's, we're all the same. We're all just bouncing around doing comedy on the road. And, uh, the, the, the show was awesome. That's such a giant show. Uh,

And it was very cool. Then afterwards, we went to him and Chappelle did a show at Stubbs Barbecue. They do a show there. And I got to go to that and hang out. Nice. And watch it. And so I got to see Chappelle. And it was in Michelle Wolf was there. I'm friends with Michelle. And so we just hung out back there and hung out all night. And they hung out till I mean, till like one. That's when I slept, got no sleep.

And then woke up the next morning to that radio thing. I woke up, weirdly, I woke up at 4.45 that morning. And I was so confused. Like, I was thinking I had to be up at 7.45 Eastern. And I was thinking I was in Pacific time. And I was like, I guess I gotta get up now. Because I gotta do the radio. And I mean, I'm just like looking at the clock. I'm just confused. But then, man, when I found out I have three more hours of sleep, that was...

Not much better than that. Yeah. It's almost worth it to just set it artificially early so that you can go back to sleep. Yeah. Feels that good. And not like just, oh, 10 more minutes. I mean. Three more hours. Three more hours. You're like, ooh, that was nice. Yeah.

but yeah the whole the whole rogan experience i mean it's funny i've got i mean i've got a lot of texts about it like what's rogan like what's ro you know it's like because i'm i was with i'm like everybody else you don't know i don't really know know the guy that well but i mean he's he's just a great dude man like he was you know not that i would tell you if he wasn't but i wouldn't be saying that he i would just be like had a great time yeah he's that good of a guy and yannis told me which we had yannis here yannis said that he's like dude he's

He's just a sweetheart dude. That's just what he is. He's roots for comics, and that's what I love. Someone to get that high up and to help out comics is a big deal. Is there an interview show in the world bigger than Rogan, which you're going to get more listeners? Not that I can think of, man. Not that I – I mean, Conan, if you do Conan's thing, I think it's pretty big. But I don't think there's anything like Rogan.

I think it's just so different. Yeah. And it's, I mean, dude, I mean, if he's in the Smithsonian, like, couldn't he be in that? Don't they do TV stuff in there? Like they have like the Cosby chair, the. Yeah, they have the Seinfeld puffy shirt. Yeah, Seinfeld puffy shirt. Cosby chair might not be there anymore, but.

What was the Cosby chair? No, not chair. Cosby sweater or something. Or whatever it was. Was it a chair? I don't remember there being an iconic chair. Archie Bunker. Archie Bunker. Okay. His lazy boy that he was in. I feel like Cosby had his sweater in there. He always wears a crazy sweater. Yeah, Archie Bunker had a chair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Cosby one. They all just...

I just picture them hauling that back out right after. Two doors have to spring open and part of the Titanic's right there and you're squeezing by it because you got to move, you got to haul it out of there. I don't know if they hauled, if they got a sweater out. They probably did. Can't do stuff. They get rid of it. Gone. Gone.

So, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, Rogan's got to be I mean, it's it's the top man. I mean, it's, you know, people made the comparison all the time of it being like the Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. It's like the closest thing we have now. So it's like a really as I mean, he's made people. Yeah. And so that's I think that's the sign of if you're making careers and he has done that, which is insane, you know, to be that that big of a thing. Yeah.

So, yeah, so the special... So, I mean, this episode, we're, you know... It's not going to be the longest one. We just kind of wanted to get on and... A, I wanted to thank everybody for watching and all that stuff. And then... But it's...

I wanted to talk about specials or any of the world around that. You get asked a lot of stuff about it. I get asked a lot about can they watch it versus to come see me, is it going to be different? And I know we've addressed that a bunch. But again, do whatever you want. I mean, I'm hoping by the time the theater tour starts, I'll be an hour new. I think I got 25, 30 minutes new now. If you come see me at one of the comedy clubs coming up,

I think I'll have half new and then half probably not new. But you never know. Maybe I'll get a nice 20-minute chunk. That's what you're looking for. Just a nice run like that. What do we have on specials? Well, do you guys remember the first comedy special that you ever saw? So I remember the – yeah, mine is Sinbad, Afros and Bellbottoms. Oh, wow. And so I remember that. Is that the one outside? Outside.

I don't know if I remember that well. Okay. It was, I remember Emmy wore, I want to say purple pants or something or a purple jumpsuit. Okay. Something like that. And I remember watching it because he was a clean comedian. So we were allowed to watch him. And I just remember ordering McDonald's, like someone sitting at the McDonald's menu, not knowing what, how to order McDonald's. And he was just like,

You know, like it's insane not to know what it is. Okay. That's not the one I'm thinking about. There was one he shot maybe in Jamaica or something outside. I don't know. When was that? Yes. That's the outfit. Just this is what a power move that is to wear that. Yeah.

It fits him. Yeah, it does. I mean, it's kind of perfect. It looks good. For that crazy of an outfit, too, it does look good. I still think it looks good right now. You know what I mean? Sometimes you look at these outfits and they don't stand the test of time. Some don't hold up at all. And that one, you're kind of like, I don't know, dude. I'm kind of on board with it. I would love to see you do your next special in something like that, man. I would love...

If I could wear a jumpsuit, I would do it. I mean, just it's a one-piece, I imagine. Is that what a jumpsuit is? Just to have a one and just be like, this is what I'm wearing. I think that's a two-piece there. No, I think he's just got a belt around the middle. It's one-piece and he still has a belt? You think he just put a belt over a jumpsuit? I think it's like what Santa Claus sleeps in is what I think it is. And they're...

And then he puts a belt around it. I mean, I think girls do that, right? They have jumpsuits. But Santa Claus has, I don't know. It's a two-piece. You don't want a two. You can't have a two-piece, dude. Like he's, I don't know. Did you have any wardrobe issues this one?

I did not have a wardrobe issues. My hair's got a kind of a weird thing. I don't know if you might even notice it, but it's, uh, my, I had a, when they fixed my hair, I just had the front of it kind of like had a space in between it. So if there's any side shots where it's the right of me, you can be, you'll be able to see like a little, just, it's a little space. Yeah. Shouldn't be there. Uh,

No one may have gone back a little bit more. That's the only thing that on this one is that that was kind of the issue I had. So the hoodie that I'm wearing in it, I had to buy that morning.

I went, cause I had, I had a shirt, just a t-shirt I was going to wear with that, with my jacket. And I mean, when we went and looked at it the night before, it was like 56 degrees. And I was like, I think I'm going to be too cold. Like, I don't want to be cold as you do this, but just shivering, you know, like those drives, some of those driving dates were just like where you were shivering and it was freezing. And so, and the 56 degrees is not the coldest, but standing for an hour,

You just don't want to be tense. You don't want to be, you know, I needed to try to be as relaxed as possible. And I went that morning and bought that hoodie. So then that was the quickest I've ever bought something that. Yeah. Well, that's a wardrobe issue. Yeah, that is. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. It's a wardrobe, but there was no, yeah. Nothing like there's a hole in something, but it was, yeah, that was a little, you remembered your shoes and all that. I remember my shoes. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about that. Right. Yeah. Tennessee kid, Tennessee kid. Shoes got put in a cab.

It costs more for the shoes to get there than it did me. This one, I had all the shoes. Yeah, I mean, I make sure now. I make sure, like, shoes, everything is kind of there. So now that you've watched it, I've watched it. Yeah, I watched it this morning. Yeah. I mean, you feel good? Like, I thought the final, I thought it looked great. I thought it was awesome, man. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't watched it, like, on Netflix yet, but I've watched it.

before when we were editing it and, uh, and put it together. But it's, uh, yeah, I watched, I do, I do feel great. I do feel good. I mean, the people that have watched it, you know, you're always very nice that you have a lot of people that will watch it right when it comes out. And, uh, they were all very nice and they loved it. And, you know, I mean, that's, that's all you want. You just want, you hope people just really laugh and have fun and,

It is what it is. I don't, you know, it's hard. It's exciting when it comes out. It's crazy that it's here.

especially just with what we've had leading up to it to go from, I didn't, you know, a year ago. I mean, it's crazy. One year ago, I used to be doing theaters. This podcast does not exist. We're doing theaters and I'm going to take a special. Everything's going to be normal to then now what all, you know, this podcast, we did a bunch of drive-in dates. We did shoot a special and the special was the only thing that was really planned for

That actually still came and came out. Yeah, you refined it, obviously, and added some stuff. But the bulk of it you had before the pandemic hit. You were ready. I was, yeah. I would have liked...

some, you know, a good run up to it just to like make sure everything, just to tighten everything up a little bit. So that was good at least to be doing those driving dates. But I mean, it was definitely the weirdest it's ever been leading up to a special. I mean, I mean just to, just to have to do stuff outside and not be able to really hear crowds. I mean, it was, you know, three months of really not being here in the crowd outside of like doing some zany shows. You just, you know, and like, and it's, and that's almost the way you can trust it is because you would do the zany shows and

And they'd be half capacity. But you're at least here. I can hear the laughs. And then you got to take that to the special taping and to even when we did those driving shows to when you're telling these jokes just to trust. Like these, I think they're doing good. They've done good other places. So as long as I deliver them the right way, they're doing good now.

And it'll be very memorable from years to come because it was outside, people were wearing masks, the helicopter flying over. Yeah. I don't want it to be where it's like no one watches it ever again because it feels too timely. Yeah. But we did capture that. I mean, they had masks on. We were trying to... I was saying, and the director...

He was saying we didn't want it to be Troy Miller as the director. He was like, we don't want it to be like too masky, like showing too many masks or too much like COVID, right? Like this is a COVID special. But the helicopters also captured that. I'll be interested to see what people think of it. Helicopters is the thing that I want to see what people think about. Just because it was like, if you haven't watched it yet, and I mean, you're C, but it's like that was not...

planned at all. There's not even like a thought about that being a worry. Yeah. Until it happened. And then it happened a bunch. Yeah. And, uh, for people that have either watched it or they're about to watch it and not giving anything away, but we did find out the reason there was only helicopters, there was a police chase.

near the universal studios where we filmed it and so there was a police chase going on and that ended up being why there was so many kind of flying over throughout the show because i think there was even a little bit more than we put in but we put in just uh i think like four times or something like that yeah yeah yeah you what's your first special do you remember

Sweat the Small Stuff by Kevin James. I remember my brother bootlegged it, and I had that special memorized word for word. I used to perform it for people on field trips and stuff. And I still watch it every now and then. I think it holds up. I think that's like an all-time great special. I agree. So funny. Yeah. That was my first one, man. Yeah. I agree that I remember watching that one, and I remember when he talked about riding the Sea-Doo. Yeah.

And the Wave Runner and getting stuck behind it. And when I saw that joke the week before, I had that same problem with the Wave Runner. Oh, yeah. And so, man, that, it hit me hard. Like, I laughed so hard just because it was such, it just happened to me. I went with my buddy, John Paul, and it just happened with that. I just had trouble with this, and he just described it perfectly.

Perfectly. He has a whole bit about water skiing, and he can't water ski, and he's got the anxiety of his friends on the boat being like, God, who brought this guy? Yeah. And I told y'all, I just started taking golf lessons, and I told the instructor, I was like, I want to get to a point where I could potentially tag along and not have the rest of the people going, God.

Who brought this to me? That was my goal too. It just did not be a liability. So I think about that particular bit all the time. He's going to take his own car.

That's what you do. That's what we throw. We just throw Brian in his own cart. I mean, my goal in golf is to no one to notice me. Yeah. I know I'm not going to be that good where they'll notice me. I just don't want to be so bad. That's not a bad goal just in life in general. Well, I'm doing great comedy. I'm killing it. Yeah. I'm too good at it. I –

I did. I like the idea of like, I live, like live my life like that. I know in comedy, we're not doing that, but I, I go in every business I go into it. You're just trying not to be, not to be a bother, not to be, you want to be just the most normal experience that they've ever had. Yeah. And there's, and they don't, you know, they go, yeah, they were very nice. Oh yeah. And they don't really remember you and you just get in and get out. Yeah. That's the best. Yeah. That's the best way. Yeah. What was your first special? Andy Griffith? Yeah.

I was going to ask you if you wanted to guess, and I knew you would say something like that, but you beat me to it. You want to guess again? Andy. I don't know if people know. Do people know Andy Griffith was a comedian? There could be a lot. Did you know that? Somebody just told me that recently. I knew that he kind of, but he was like a serious comic for a while, right? Yeah. I only know him from the show and from music. He had a joke about watching football for the first time.

And I mean, might've been like literally going to watch football. It's like, it's like from the forties or something like there's this new thing. Yeah. Football. And he, uh, it actually might've been like, he went to a game and just having to explain to him. And, uh, I've listened to some of his standup. They played on and they played on like serious. You'd be able to listen to some of his standup. Yeah. Uh, I would say your first special when, uh,

I mean, would it have been Eddie Murphy Raw? I mean, you wouldn't have been, is that what it is? Oh, wow. It was, which I know doesn't quite fit my comedy, but my parents wouldn't let me watch, you know, we didn't have cable and they weren't going to whatever. So when I was in high school, Eddie Murphy Raw came out when I was in high school and my friends rented it at the video store and we watched it. Yeah. Uh,

I mean, did you not think like, ah, I shouldn't be watching this? Yeah, I thought that. But I mean, by then I'm in high school, so I think it's really cool that I'm- That's all part of the thrill. Yeah. Yeah. So Eddie Murphy Raw, which I read, it's the top grossing standup comedy special of all time. Yeah. Was it in theaters? Yeah. I think it was released like a movie. Yeah. It was. I wish they would do that. Kevin Hart had his do that. I like that idea.

It's mostly, I looked at the top 10, the top eight are black comics. Black comics do it, Stum. The Kings of Comedy did it. Kevin Hart's done it. Martin Lawrence has had a couple that have done really well. Kings of Comedy, what's so good about that special is, I mean, is all of it, but Bernie Max.

Bernie Mac was a killer. I've got him pulled up. I think Bernie Mac's Def Jam outfit is maybe the best. Maybe the best outfit of all time for stand-up. And it works. Yeah.

He pulls it off. I don't think I could pull off my face airbrushed on my jeans like that. That's his famous set on Def Jam. That's not a special, but it's a clip. I ain't scared of you. Obviously, it's a little dirty if that's your thing. If it bothers you, it doesn't bother you. It's a very famous, as comedians know,

you know it's like that dude that's like describes comedy like that's like him doing that is representing every comedian to every audience and not the great audience but like rough audiences where it's him up there i ain't scared of you like you know just keep saying that because isn't it supposedly everybody was bombing the story was that everyone was bombing on that show and then he came out and just straight up told him i'm not scared of you guys yeah and murdered yeah yeah

I had a similar line. Oh, dude, that's so great. Yeah, the clip has like a million views on YouTube now. Yeah. That clip of... There's a clip... I mean, I post it, so I don't know. Like I found it, but...

Black audience surprise when white boy takes the stage. I come out all this black, they just die laughing when I come out. Because I come out to like, hard out here for a pimp. Yeah. First thing I say is, I'm the opposite of Bernie Mac. And they got it. Yeah, they knew exactly what I meant. It's, yeah, he was, when he did that, that was such a big, that's such a big deal and such a big,

I mean, yeah, just not be – I ain't scared of you. Like, just the control that you have, like, over an audience, like, that's what it is. Like, the confidence and the control. Because he's not – I mean, he's been killing forever at that point. But no one really knows who he is. But he's been in clubs, and everybody that knows him knows this dude's a killer. And then he does that. And then his king's a comedy. I mean, he goes on at the end of that. Yeah.

I mean, that one's unreal. And someone else was like, who was it? Cedric. Cedric. Cedric was, he backs the car up and stuff like that. I mean, that's such a show. Steve Harvey's got great, I mean, everybody's great in that one. And then DL. DL. Steve Harvey, when he calls out that guy in the front, I mean, it's unbelievable. It's in an arena. Yeah. I mean, just, I love, like, how...

That's such a big audience in that special. And like for them to capture that, that is, it shouldn't work. It shouldn't work. It shouldn't. And it just does. That energy is just too, they're just that big of acts. Yeah. Yeah. Their energy is so big and it just works in that,

in that arena that they were in. Yeah. Well, who were the two or the two, the other two in that top 10, probably blue collar comedy tour, right? That was probably one of the highest grossing. No, um,

Fluffy. Jeff Dunham. Oh, Fluffy. Fluffy was one. Yeah, yeah. And the number nine was like some weird thing. I never – Bette Midler. And there was some type of kind of weird variety movie. Oh, yeah, variety show. Yeah. I mean, there's not a ton that are ever released in theaters. But – so the top – well, I want to finish about –

Eddie Murphy's Raw is the top grossing movie all time stand up movie 50.5 million is Richard Pryor in there I was about to get to that okay um it set the the record for the use of the F word 223 times wow until Sticks and Stones broke it um

No, no, no. What's the name of your... I believe that. Shirts and Skins. I believe the joke. Sticks and Stones would have been better. Oh, well, I believe that joke. 223 times in an hour? Sticks and Stones is a special. I think we just said it. Sticks and Stones is Dave Chappelle. Yeah, yeah. Okay, all right. My bad. I believe that joke. Richard Pryor, you asked about. So I looked at a couple of the rankings of like...

top comedy specials of all time and there's a ton of them out there i looked up rolling stones and vulture because and they each had richard pryor's top comedy special of all time but two different specials which is kind of crazy yeah rolling stone had richard pryor live in concert um is number one and then vulture had richard pryor live on the sunset strip yeah which i think that one he bombed on he did originally yeah i think about documentary yep yeah

Live in the Sunset. That's the one where he came back after he'd been burned. Yeah. First time in a couple years. And I think, yeah, like bombed and they did it again. I think so. And then it was like. I think they shot it over two nights. Yeah. And the first show was bad. And then the second show they did again. And he like, and it became what it became. I mean, the other famous bombing one of some of the bomb was Mitch Hedberg.

Mitch Hedberg is like Comedy Central Presents where he sits down and it's kind of become famous, but it's him not doing good. Like it was not good. And then he sat down and it was almost like it came together. And it's crazy just to be in that moment. And you know, you got that feeling of probably something not going good and then it becomes this legendary special. Pretty wild. The Richard Pryor, the first one, that's the first one released in a movie theater. First full length stand up set released.

Do you have the first stand-up special? What's the first stand-up? I don't even know what would be the first. I mean, George Carlin or Bill Cosby. Mark Twain. Do you record any of his? No. Nate's a little bit closer than you are. Lenny Bruce? Well, they probably did albums, but as far as a video, it was Richard Klein, 1975 HBO. Wow.

Not Robert Klein? I'm sorry. I'm Robert Klein. I'm bombing here. Yeah. Robert Klein. Robert Klein. I was about to say Richard Klein. Like there's another. Robert Pryor did that. Robert Klein did it. It was the first ever hour long special. And he said it was the first time he got to present an act and not have to be in a hurry.

I mean, can you imagine being the, he's a lot. Yep. Like, so the first, that's, that's how young standup comedy is kind of what it is now is that Robert Klein is alive. I mean, he's, you know, I mean, he's probably 70 or something. At least. I mean, that's less than 50 years ago.

The first, can you imagine being the first special? Like you telling someone I'm Tate. Yeah. I don't even know what you're saying. He's 79 now. He had to just go, I'm going to film. I'm going to film. And they're going to put it on TV. What? What was it on? HBO. Yeah. So HBO, I mean, HBO started it all. HBO has been the king until Netflix. Yeah. You remember when you were first considering doing the special and where to put the platform and you're like,

What do you think? We're looking at either Netflix or Comedy Central. Yeah. And I was like, you got to do Comedy Central, man. Yeah. You got to do Comedy Central. This wasn't that long ago. This was like just a couple years ago. Yeah. That was the day I stopped listening to breakfast. I stopped eating breakfast that morning and never looked back. You got to do Comedy Central, dude. Now nobody even knows Comedy Central exists. Well, Comedy Central was such a...

I mean, such a big deal for me. And so, and there's people at Netflix that, what I love about Netflix and what I love is the people that have done this, my, any, everything I've done is you, you work with these people over this long period of time. And Grigioni is over there. She's, she was a producer. She, she works with Netflix.

And she's been with me. She's not with me. She's worked at Comedy Central and Netflix. But it's since my first appearance live at Gotham. And so she's done all of them to the Presents, to the Comedy Central special, the Hour special. And then now she's at Netflix. And I mean, it's pretty wild that you're just with these. She's been in every single one of them. And it's such a crazy thing.

It's a, it's a, it's a Joanne Grigioni, pretty wild. And then, uh, Robbie Praw, who's also at Netflix, he was at Montreal just for last festival. And so like you end up working with these people and he did new faces. I did new faces with him. That was 2008 and now it's 2021. And we just did our second Netflix special. And he was, and he's, I mean, he's the reason he asked me to do the standups.

He came to me, he went to Netflix and he goes, Hey, we want to do the standups. We want to do like a half hour thing. And I was like, I don't know, man, I just did an hour economy central special and Netflix is, you know, I think Segura is on there. I knew net, I know Netflix is big. It's good. It's big. It's not,

it's about to be netflix netflix but it's like and he's like we're doing a thing where i want to get like six comics we'll do like a half hour and i want you to do it and i was like i don't know dude i just did an hour like i don't want to go back to a half hour like it takes forever to get to it to be able to do an hour on tv and now i gotta go back to a half hour and he was like i think it would be good and i remember just talking to her and talking uh talking you know me and brian when i had dinner i broke it down to him and gave me the worst advice uh

And then, but I remember talking to my managers and agents at the time, or I don't know if I had agents at the time, but my managers and talking to them and just like being like, you know, then realizing like, look, I think it's better to do it because it's, I think Netflix is going to be, just to get in that family and you want to be in that Netflix family. And it was like, I should do it. And then, I mean, the rest is, it's, we're here where we're at.

Michelle Wolf was supposed to do it too. And she did her own HBO special, which I think she's going back. She didn't know the Netflix special, right? I think so. Yeah. And then, but I remember Michelle going to do the, and I was like, I don't think I was like, I feel like she should do this half hour. Cause I was doing it. And I was like, I think in the half hour, I think she would have destroyed it and done great, whatever. But her HBO special was so great. And she obviously made the right decision to do what she did. And then she went back to Netflix.

after that. Soda as an HBO special. It seems like HBO, Netflix are the two top. Yeah. I just don't think anybody's touching Netflix right now. Netflix has made it where people know stand-up

No, we're not having to do TV shows. I mean, look, I want to make a TV show. I'm still going to try to make a TV show, but it's nice to be like, I don't know if it doesn't happen. You just keep putting your specials out. It just, I mean, hopefully Netflix keeps letting you, but if they do, you just keep writing new hours and putting specials out. That's what's, you know, you get to be a comedian. We get to be a standup comedian where the older guys had to do Seinfeld, Ray Romano, Kevin James, uh,

All those guys had to do TV shows. George Carlin, I mean, he was known as a stand-up his whole time, but he had to do a bunch of movies too, a lot of stuff like that. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Netflix is obviously I'm there. I'm on it. It's on right now. But they're just so gigantic. That's what everybody says. They go, like to me, when are we going to see you on Netflix? That's like the comment. Nobody's like, when are we going to see you on Netflix?

When are we going to see your Comedy Central hour? VH1. Yeah, exactly. When are we going to see your VH1 hour? Yeah, when are you going to be on TNT? Let me know. Dry bar is where it's at, guys.

dry but dry bar is great dry bar is great it's the future of stand-up uh if you want to check out uh brian bates as a dry bar yep it's special dry bar is great dry bars got huge clips yeah i mean a lot of people see it i mean now people are doing internet stuff they're doing youtube they're you know we had mark norman uh sam real joe list a lot of people were putting out stuff on youtube i looked up their numbers last night all in the millions for their specials yeah i mean it's

You know, it's tough to get in. Like Netflix, Netflix is tough. It's tough to get in there. They have a lot of comics. They got, you know, once you kind of build your audience in Netflix. And so you kind of stay in and you hopefully do it.

And keep doing more. Not that they don't add new people, but it is tough. I mean, it's tough to get stuff. And a lot of it's just timing, man. It's like, when do you get in? I was lucky enough to be farther along in comedy to even get a chance to do that half hour. That then led to all this, where it's like, I've got to do more from there. And the Netflix thing did really good. I mean, everybody watching is the reason I got to keep doing more. Well, that weekend that the stand-ups came out, we were in Tacoma.

And immediately you saw a difference in that weekend. Yeah. Yeah. That was the first weekend where I was like, oh, have y'all heard these jokes? And they said yes. And it was the first time, you know, because now you kind of know. Everybody's asking, should I watch a special? People come and they know. But yeah, it's a crazy time in your career. Because that's all you ever want, man, when you're a comic. You want people to be like, you want them to know who you are.

And they're there to see you. And I remember, you know, you saw comics, you saw Burr, Louis C.K. or, you know, any of these big comics. I mean, Chris Rock would go on stage with his notebook and, you know, stuff. And they were having to do their new stuff because people were coming to like they got they got to have a new act. And so they would always say, well, once I'm done with the special, then I retire that act.

And, you know, it's always funny too, because you always say, younger comics say that, where you're like, don't worry about it, dude. Like, you know, you put an album out, you're like, keep doing this stuff. I mean, Y'all Don't Have a Clown, I did some of that stuff on Comedy Central. Because you can. And your fans that find you at that point, like on your CD, they know, they

they're growing with you. They get in so early as being a fan of you that they realize, you're like, yeah, I got to go. If Comedy Central or Netflix said, do a special tomorrow, you're going to do your album. What you just did on your album, you're going to go put on that special. And everybody that watched that album,

they they're those people are comedy fans like they're fine they love stand-up comedy and they're searching out stand economy the way they people search out music and so that i feel like those fans know like because you see it where people they're commenting like yeah dude he got a bigger thing right he's got a good that's what they they know what comics do like this is how it works i always get it with youtube comments

Because people are like, I feel like it's the same act on all these YouTube clips. Like, yeah, dude, because when I was coming up, YouTube was new. So you were putting everything on YouTube because you usually were, you know, you would hear about the word viral and you're like just trying to make something go viral. And so, like, I mean, you have the same jokes just on different comedy clubs. Yeah.

And so then now people are like, why are all the clips the same? You're like, dude, that was 10 years ago, 15 years ago. What do you want me to do? I don't even own, I don't have control over those clips. They're all posted by someone else.

And they're not like on my YouTube page. Most of my YouTube old standup clips are posted from somewhere else. Like I would have to ask that person to take them down. And then it's, it's like, you can't, you can't just get it taken down. You have to be a lot more careful now. Like now I'm realizing that,

You have to be so much more careful to your material. You just get way more protective over it. And you have to be like, we're not filming, right? It's not going to go out anywhere because you don't want it to go out because, man, that's the hard part now about doing a Tonight Show. It's like, you know, it's five minutes. And then it's usually a really good five. You pick a good five minutes. So, you know, my Tonight Show, those jokes are on the Netflix special.

And so then people see it and you just want to be like, I just, you, I want like the next special, you're like, I don't want any of that stuff to be like, it's not on anything. Yeah. And so then when people watch it, it is zero to 60 minutes of, I've, no one's ever seen, unless you went to a live show, nobody has seen any of this material. Mm-hmm.

that's what I want for my next one. I don't know if it'll happen. Tonight Show asked me to do it again. I'm like, all right, I'll do it. I would love to do Tonight Show again. But when you put out Full Time Magic, did you still keep doing those jokes in the clubs? I remember I was at Raleigh, Raleigh, North Carolina, Charlie Goodnight's.

Uh, great comedy club, kind of a famous comedy club. Comedians love, uh, I think helium owns it now. And they, uh, I remember being there and I, I was asking that weekend cause that's the special that aired the same night of the Mayweather Pacquiao fight.

And so I asked people in the audience, I was like, Hey, did y'all watch this special? And I remember there, you know, there was like five people that said yes. So I could do all those jokes. I mean, no one was, no one was there to see it. And so it was like, I could do it. I bet, you know, I remember wanting to build a new act. I knew I needed to get a new act. I just had an hour special, but that was, that was the thing that was hard with Comedy Central. They,

You know, they aired the special twice, and then I don't know if they ever aired it again. And then you were... I mean, maybe someone... You could buy it on iTunes right now if you wanted to buy it, but it just sits there. That was the comment central...

Whatever their system is, I don't know. But it's like, how do you not? They had everybody, dude. Those Comedy Central presents were enormous. And that's where so many people watch this stuff. Dane Cook, Hedberg. You saw all these. Dane Cook was the one that blew up. Nick Swartzen. Adam Sandler saw Nick Swartzen's half hour and called him. And now Nick Swartzen works with Adam Sandler. I didn't know that.

Yeah. He saw a special and like talk to him and was like, man, I loved it. And then that's how their relationship kind of began. Uh, and so you would see, I remember the commonsensual presents, you would see them all. Everybody got to pick their backdrop, you

You know, so you got to really decorate your stage. That was a big deal. I was the first year they didn't do that because the whole when you're coming up, you're going, what do you go? What would you do for your kind of special? You're like, oh, you're going to put like a barn door behind you or, you know, you're going to decorate like Ted Alexandro had a basketball goal on some trash cans like and that's his that was his backdrop. And and so I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. And I remember they just go, we're not doing that anymore. Yeah.

They just put our names behind it, which honestly was better just to have your name sitting behind you. That was right. Because you're not in control of editing those specials, like the half hour on Comedy Central. So right when you get done, I did it with me and Chelsea Peretti taped the same thing.

night together. And right when we got done, you walk over and a guy's sitting there and he goes, all right, let's like, we got to edit some of this. Yeah. So he's like, rank your jokes, like from one to, you know, whatever, to 50, just to see, or one, he'd like do,

your one to 10 ranking of jokes that you don't want taken out. And I mean, he asked you right when you walk off. Wow. And I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I wasn't like prepared that I'm going to get asked that. And so then you have to go over there. He's like, rank your jokes. And you're like, all right. I mean, I liked the, I mean the wife thing, there's the car thing, you know, and you're just sitting there talking about your jokes. You're like,

I don't know. I don't know if I remember. It's like all just like kind of a blur. And you kind of end up just being like, just do whatever you just do. Do what you're going to do. Yeah. Like you're like in Breaking Bad when he gets shot in the gun. He goes, do what you're going to do. Right before you get Hank. Just do what you're going to do. He's already made his decision 10 seconds ago. Yeah.

So I looked up the first comedy stand-up special on Netflix. You guys want to guess? First comedy stand-up special on Netflix? Yeah. I mean, Segura was very early. And so, I mean, I would almost say him just because. It was Bill Burr. Oh, wow. You people are all the same. 2012. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Now, when I look up on Wikipedia, just the list of all the, they have every Netflix special that came out in the year and everything. Yeah. They didn't even have that one listed. They had the first one. Because I think that was on something else and they bought it. Oh, maybe that's why. Yeah. So that's where, because that was a big thing too, was you wanted to try to get, like Mulaney has New in Town, I believe was a Comedy Central special and then Netflix bought it.

Maybe that's the difference. Because that's what you'd want to do. That's what I want to do with full-time magic. I would love if I could ever get it off common central and have it put on Netflix. But they don't. Common central Netflix, I mean, at one point we're not getting along.

Because they were just doing comedy. And Netflix got such known as a stand-up place that they're just... I mean, they're losing all their comics to Netflix. Yeah. Well, according to Wikipedia, the first Netflix special was Russell Peters in October of 2013. And then Aziz Asari did one like a few weeks later. But then none in 2014. I don't know why. And then 2015, just a ton. And then by 2017, just so many. Yeah, which I think stand-ups in 2017...

is when I did that. Okay. I believe so. Because 17, 19, 21. I think I've done every two years. Yeah. So I don't know why they took a year off assuming Wikipedia is right. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, they're probably just filling out what works, what happens. I mean, they've become so big now. And you can see that now. I've watched The Crew with Kevin James. It's great. He works at NASCAR. It's a great show. But it's like an Everybody Loves Raymond type, King of Queens type kind of sitcom where they're starting to figure that out.

And like, that's going to be where Netflix becomes a problem. Like once they start getting where you're like, you're just going to Netflix and you're like, Oh, let's watch this, you know, sitcom, like those funny sitcoms are what I think make networks almost like that. They're the comedy sitcoms are just really good. They have so many documentaries and all that kind of stuff, but you gotta, you gotta get the casual, like, look, I'm not trying to,

I don't want to be crying at 7 o'clock at night watching some sad documentary. You're like, I want to eat dinner. I want to watch a fun sitcom. Me and Lars are watching The Crew, and The Crew's great. The cast is great. It's very funny. So I feel like they're fluffy. He's got a sitcom on there. So they're starting to get into that multicam world.

you know, where they're starting to make those sitcoms. And I think that's just going to make Netflix even just get crazier and crazier. Because then you're going to start getting, you start getting even regular, like people in the middle of the country that will always think of that,

Or a little later to Netflix. I mean, I was later to Netflix, like even getting it. I mean, I don't think I had it when I did it. You used to use my password. Yeah. When I did the stand-ups, I was using Brian's password for Netflix. Didn't even have it. Didn't you do like a meeting with executives at Netflix? Yeah. You were using my password? Yeah. Yeah. I've been watching everything. Yeah.

We just watched. My email is bbates at channel5.com. It was something like that. That was my login. They're like, wow, that's a weird email. I was like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. I like my privacy. Yeah, yeah. We just watched Cobra Kai. Yeah. It's not a multicam, but it's very good, fun. That was a YouTube show.

yes the first season was on youtube red and then it went to netflix but there's a scene have you seen it where they're the students there's a nerdy kid and another kid they're trying to work together to move this big rock and the nerdy kid says what we need is a fulcrum which i didn't know what it was except through air and it's like a it's like a stick that lifts the other side right yeah i still really was that the cool kid in the class that was the nerdy kid that said yeah the fulcrum it's

but there you go. You immediately get beat up by that fulcrum. I think he did. I think the other kids like used some karate. Cobra Kai's great. Like people love it, right? Yeah. I mean, I loved Karate Kid. If I didn't love Karate Kid, I don't know that I would love Cobra Kai so much, but it was fun. So yeah. So we've talked a little bit about how now a lot of people are putting out their specials on YouTube. Sam Morrell, Mark Norman, Joe List all did great. Andrew Schultz put his out last year. Um,

for uh for free for people to see so that's kind of uh and i mean that's a pat i mean and schultz just did netflix you know because uh i mean he was the one that because he made fun of himself because he said netflix is over and then he's doing a netflix thing but uh

that's the you know or do they have live shows on netflix like are or that kind of like weekly you know like john oliver's like weekly michelle wolf's was like that right yes yeah yeah i feel like one if they get that too like that that kind of aspect to it i mean they're going to end up becoming like they are like tv and then they just look i mean they're they're there but like

But once they start figuring that kind of stuff out, then you're the television. Netflix is the word for TV. I think it already is in a lot of ways, man. It is for me. I don't have cable. Yeah. But you look at other stuff. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. But I'm mostly living out of Netflix. Yeah.

Yeah. Just cause that just kind of feels like home, like your homepage almost. Yeah. I like the shows that, and they're starting to go back to more of this, I think where they release them once a week. Yeah. Um,

I love the idea of that. I feel like it's more community. Everybody's in it together. Yeah. As opposed to someone who binges it before I even get up that morning. Yeah. And they've already ruined the whole season for me. I like that too. And they've done it. They're doing that with some shows? Yeah. Like The Mandalorian, I think is like that. And I was trying to think of some other ones. Disney Plus. Great British Bake Off. Okay. They do it like that. All right.

Mandalorian is every week. WandaVision was like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, so you make it where, you know, water cooler talk or people don't really get around. What does he say? Water fountain anymore. Water cooler. Water cooler. Yeah. Is that what Borsht Costanza says?

And they go, we look, we call it a water cooler show. He's like, oh, that's interesting. Because people don't really talk about water fountains anymore. When they were pitching the show to NBC? Yeah. Yeah. And then he said something else. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah. No. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Something I don't think about too much. Yeah. I was trying to think of some unusual stand-up specials that people took a different... Well, yeah, I know. Drew Michaels. Yeah. I was about to say. Yeah. Yeah.

uh, comedian, Drew Michael did a special, no audience. It was just him talking. It was a one man show and it was on HBO. And, uh, it was, uh, Gerard Carmichael, uh, worked with me on my pilot, but they, like he did that. I mean, it was a very interesting idea. I mean, you got to look at stuff as like trying, like you just try trying to separate yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And that's about the most way you can get into the audience. Yeah.

I always think sometimes you don't want to get too cute with things. You don't want to get, you know, it's like do what it is, you know, not saying that he should, he can, he can try that. I mean, try it. Look, if you, if it works, you can be the guy that changes everything. But I, you know, it's like, just, I like doing standup.

In the oldest format of the way that I know it as stand-up comedy. And you go up there and you tell your jokes. And then you're like, all right, there you go. And I think it's a wonderful thing. Yeah. And I kind of stick with that. Maria Bamford's done some fun ones. Yeah. Even before COVID. Yeah. Like in houses and stuff like that. And she, it fits with her. Yeah. And it's great. Yeah. She did one to her parents.

In their living room, right? Where it's just... But in Maria Bamford, you're kind of buying into that world. So it's whatever the world is that you're selling. That's what really works is that kind of thing. You're just like, yeah, I dig... Maria Bamford's an unbelievable comedian. To her parents, man, that's so funny. Yeah.

I mean, it's, you know, the idea is funny. And then, I mean, she's a, her jokes, she's a great joke writer. She's very funny. Yeah, she's great. So some of the, real quick, just some of the other top specials that both of these mentioned, both of them had Chris Rock bring the pain as the number two. So I remember they said with him, with that special, I believe it was that special. So that was the one that set him off, right? Yeah. So I remember, yeah,

I think it might have been Louis C.K. telling a story or something or someone like that. So Chris was on SNL. Chris Rock was on SNL. And then he got done and like and then went on the road. And so no one really saw him. And I don't I would say like, I mean, he was on SNL. He's famous, but it's not like he's he was becoming Chris Rock that he's become. Right.

And so Chris goes on, leaves New York and just goes on the road. So no one sees him. And so they don't know where he's at. And they're like, well, he's not even, he's like on the road. He's not working or anything, whatever. And then he comes back to New York and does a show and they go watch it. And it's basically, it's bringing the pain is what he goes. And they were like,

you know, Louie's like, I gotta be different. Like, I mean, he, everybody was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I always think about that. Like, that's what you want to do when you, like when I left New York, I was like, when I go, every time I go back, I want the other comics when they watch, they go, uh,

Okay. All right. Well, we got to go get it together. Like, this is crazy. Yeah. And that's what it was with Chris Rock with Bring the Pain. Like they, the other comics watched and he was murdering so hard and it was so good. And they go, oh, that's where he's been. Yeah. And it's unreal. That's what he's been up to. And you know, like you can just tell at that point they could, they could, they're watching. They're like, well, he's about to leave us. Like,

Like, we got our little crew together, and he's about to be gone, dude. Like, because this dude, he's going to film this special, and it's going to be, it's flawless. Like, it's pretty crazy. Yeah. You ever see Eddie Murphy's, like, raw, like, him working on that material? No. Because I always wondered that. There's YouTube clips of him at the comic strip doing, like, the ice cream bit. Okay. And it's pretty interesting to see it, because you know it from...

on you know i mean on stage in the red suit and to see him doing it on a tuesday night and at the comic strip because eddie murphy you felt like if you told me he made all that up i know comics don't make stuff up on the spot if you told me he made that whole special up i would believe it because you just never heard about him i think that was delirious delirious yeah you never heard about him traveling you know i mean i didn't

No one, I mean, if you're like my, you know, Chris Rock and Seinfeld, if you ever hear them talk about it, they would hear him, like they saw him doing spots. But you never, you know, I never heard he was doing spots. I never heard he was like going to a funny bone. You know, he was at Zayn, he's doing something. Like you just never heard that kind of stuff. And so it's pretty neat to see.

There's a great comic strip clip. The comedy club in New York called The Comic Strip. If you go on YouTube, they have great clips that are... You can see Ray Romano. A lot of comics that are just popping in when they're first starting out. And they're just doing a show for 50 people. Yeah, it's cool. Delirious. Both of them have that as the number five best special all time. He was 22 when he did that. Think how crazy that is. He's the phenom in my...

In my head. I know Chappelle was very, very young, but I mean, he put that special out. That was his first one, right? Yeah. 22 years old. That's so young. And that is an adult special. Like that's like, uh, you know, a 20 year vet comes up with that special. It's so crazy. That still, you see it in people's acts today. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of style from it. So just real fast. Some of these, uh, Louis CK, shameless, uh,

That was his big coming out. I mean, he'd been around for a while, but that was one that kind of just set him apart. So his big thing when he turned, uh, got big too, was like, I think I've heard him talk about it where he said, uh,

You know, he like had a joke about a dolphin and he just was like, what am I doing? Yeah. Dolphins. And then he kind of went in with the, like, I hate my kids. Yeah. And then you start talking about it and went that route and that registered with like so many people that, and then, then he became, he changed. It was like a different comment. Yeah. Yeah.

Robin Williams, Evening at the Met, Bill Cosby himself. That's the dentist joke that's so famous. So some of that, if you ever watched the pilot of The Cosby Show, he does his act in that. Mm-hmm.

And which is funny, the pilot of the Cosby show, we talked about that before. It's one of the best episodes. It's one of the best episodes ever. Most iconic lines. Yeah, yeah. In the pilot. Yeah, in the pilot. The first episode. I mean, shows change, dude. Seinfeld was called a different, it was the Seinfeld Chronicles, and the parents were different. I mean, they changed Seinfeld so much after the pilot. And for the Cosby show to be like,

The most memorable lines are from the first episode. That's wild. Yeah. Dave Chappelle, killing them softly. Yeah. And then some recent ones that, now this was from 2015, so Tennessee Kid, probably would have been on here if it wasn't for that. Kevin Hart, let me explain.

That took him from a star to a worldwide superstar, they said. And Patrice O'Neill, Elephant in the Room. Yeah. Which was originally on Comedy Central. It was 42 minutes because of commercials. But then they re-released it on Netflix and it's 77 minutes. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I need to go watch the Netflix one. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen that. I don't think I have either. Yeah. I don't think I have either. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I mean, Patrice...

Patrice would have been fun to be alive right now and see what he, uh, did. He was a Patrice. Patrice would have been, I mean, it would have been nuts to like what he would have just produced and the specials he would have made. Yeah. It had been unreal. Yeah. Uh, all right. That's it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's basically it. Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, yeah, we weren't doing much, you know, today. Just, just pop it in. Uh,

So we've already, we're already getting emails from people asking about specific jokes in your act. So maybe a future episode, we could talk some about some of those. Yeah. We're, I mean, yeah, if you, if you want to know anything about, uh, what I've talked about in my, uh, in this special, the greatest average American, uh,

Yeah. Ask, email us, hit us up, comment, whatever, do what everyone do. And, uh, we're collecting once we get enough word, we're maybe do it. So it might be a month or something. I don't know when, however long it takes people to, once we feel like we got enough questions, but yeah, if you want any questions about any of the stories, any of the jokes that I told in this special, uh,

You can see it. You're in the special. Yeah, in the credits. Yeah. A couple seconds. That whole part's hilarious. Nick Novicki. Yeah. Definitely let us know that. That could be fun to talk about that.

And then, yeah. I mean, look. And we did, I know we did the voting on Instagram about like the March Madness, the greatest. Everybody that voted in that, thank you for doing that. That was a lot of fun. It's been interesting to see. I mean, some of them got close. Ranch Dressing and Drive-Ins is which is more average American. It was very close. Mm-hmm.

Very, very close. Drive-ins or drive-thrus? Drive-thrus. I'm sorry. Drive-thrus or ranch dressing, which is drive-thrus is an interesting one to think about. Ranch dressing is very funny to me though, as an answer. And so, yeah. And so, yes, thank you for doing all that. Thank you for everything that you've done. Remember we, the second show that we are added is on sale on,

So by the time this comes out, I don't know if it'll be sold out or not, but make sure you get your tickets. If you want to come watch the, uh, uh, our, our first live recording first, maybe last live. We will see live recording of the Nate land podcast. Again. Thank you. Good. Thank all you folks. We love you. And, uh, we will talk to you next week at our normal, normal time. See ya.

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