#45 The Renaissance
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Hello, folks. Welcome to Nate Land. If you're watching this, Brian Quipp.

All right. Oh, God, he's still here. Sorry, guys. Sorry. I got back in. We had to pre-record this to make sure. We expect one of these guys not to make it during the whole run. So trying to get it in. All the listeners have odds. You guys are on DraftKings. Really? Yeah. Who's the favorite?

To make it and not make it, they think Brates is going to die in this room. He ain't going anywhere. Aaron, they think that you will go back to construction. I don't know why they said that, but that's what they – I think they assume you do construction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you got the construction look. Do I? No, I don't. Sunny D, that's what they usually wear. That's what they drink sometimes. Yeah. I guess you don't have – yeah. Yeah.

You would be like, you know, the construction look of, you know, it's funny. It's like wearing those, wearing a shirt like that. I like that shirt, but like construction workers will wear shirts like that. Yeah. Like you're still like, it's like a polo shirt and they're just wearing it to get dirty. Like it's a shirt that's made for hard labor. Yeah. And then it's our nice, it's also your nice shirt. Tuck it in. I don't know. All right. This is why this is. This week, you're actually listening to a prerecorded episode of

uh so we're gonna get into it we're gonna uh just go ahead and uh we start with the comments uh first up Rochelle Rochelle Cordell or Rachel probably Rochelle I thought the E-L-L-E was uh that would be a weird way to spell Rachel and I like Rochelle Cordell just having a name that rhymes like that is pretty nice pretty nice Rochelle Cordell hey um Rochelle Cordell like a law office

It does a little bit. Yeah, Rochelle Cardell, a lot of law offices. News anchor, something like that. Thank you for creating a podcast that is family friendly. My husband and I love that we can listen with our kids. In fact, our 10-year-old son listens to episodes as he falls asleep.

Just when we think he's asleep, we will hear a laugh. And then in the morning, he gives a recap of his favorite lines from the night before. He had to give a presentation at school this week and made sure to include some jokes. When I picked him up from school, he was so excited to tell me that he got the most laughs. And in his words, he killed it. Keep up the great work. We look forward to seeing all of you perform live, hopefully sooner rather than later. Well, that is awesome.

Killed it. He's using the right words. He killed it. The words in comedy are tough. Killed it. I murdered last night. It's a lot of that. But yeah, he did. He killed it. That's awesome. Yeah, that's great. Nathan Smith. We have a saying in my family that perfectly describes people like Nate. Often wrong, never in doubt. At least three to four times for podcasts, he lives out that idiom. Often wrong, never in doubt.

So, like, I'm wrong a lot, but I always assume I'm right. You're confident about how you feel. Yeah. But I do say, I don't know. I could say, I don't know a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. That's what this is, you know? It's like, it's just your world. It's like, I don't know, dude. Who knows? Who knows any of this stuff? Idiom. Idiom.

Start calling your family idioms. Yeah, a bunch of idioms. Jordan Lundeen. Nate, I think YouTube has cinched your lack of grammar. The only ads on this podcast have to do with Grammarly, a program that changes your sentences to sound smarter. YouTube is like your mini adjunct professor. Are they that? They know that much? I don't know. They're that much. YouTube's in it.

Could my grammar be that bad? You know, it's like I've thought about should I try to fix my grammar, but then I just don't think so. That's what I...

That's when I think about it, then I go, no, I'm not going to. Well, I don't think it's as bad as everybody jokes about. I think you speak very good. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. It is good. Tom Letary. Letary. Let her in. Tom Letary. A favorite recurring bit is Nate interrogating Aaron about the words his family may or may not use around the dinner table. In a segment I'm calling, is that how y'all talk? What?

It feels like anytime Aaron uses a word with more than two syllables, it's like blood in the water for Nate, and it makes me laugh every time. I'm curious to see the long-term effects this has on Aaron's vocabulary going forward. Keep up the smart shaming. That's what I'm talking about, man. Everybody shames dumb people, but maybe smart people need to get shamed a little bit. Okay. So you know what it feels like to live on the other side of the tracks. Doesn't need to be brought down. Yeah. You're up there.

What do you do right after a podcast? Go drink tea or something? Is that just to get it? You know what I mean? I put my monocle back on. Yeah. And then I go. And then you get in the car and your driver goes, how was it? And you go, you know. You know how it was. And then...

I don't even think, I'm not joking like you come from money. It's just you're that smart that you were able to talk your way into getting a driver. Yeah, just convince some guy to be my driver. And he goes, I guess I should do it. That's my favorite part too, Tom. Devin Alexander. What's up, folks? Nate, Aaron, and Brian. I myself am a fellow comedian. If you guys ever do an episode about dreams, I just want to know if you have ever...

If you have ever or still do have dreams where you gain insight and material for your stand-up, I've received some of the best bits that I have from my dreams where I've popped up wide awake at 3 a.m. to write something down so I can remember it. I love the show. I've been listening to every episode without missing one. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Devin. Yeah, I've had...

I've definitely had a lot of great thoughts. Sometimes they don't pan out to be that way, and you write them down, and you're like, what was I thinking? Like Seinfeld, what did he write down?

uh, as an old, that's an old episode where he wrote down something. He went to the psychic. Yeah. I went to the psychic and he writes down joke. He's like, I was trying to write down, I wrote this down in my sleep. It was funny as he predicted, the guy predicted a score of a Spurs that just happened. I saw that recently. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, it's like from 90 or 90, I think. Yeah. And it said Spurs beat the, yeah. Somebody had the score, right. Had the exact score, right. Yeah. Pretty crazy. Yeah. It's wild. Uh,

But yes, I do. The key to it is to write it down. Just always write it down. There's still times I'll lay there and I go, I'll remember it. And sometimes you do remember it. And then sometimes you're just like, you know, and you just think about it. What was there? And you can't remember it. So it is best to write it down. You do. Yeah. I feel like your brain's the kind of freest at that point. And you're trying to go to bed and then you can't.

Because your brain just keeps going. But yeah, that's great. That's a good way to do it. I don't remember anything from dreams, anything concrete. Like I'll wake up and realize I just had a nightmare. And I was like, oh man, that was awful. But I don't remember anything that happens in them. You have a lot of nightmares? I have been lately, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Like two weeks in a row. What about? Just a nightmare every night. I don't know what they're about. I just wake up and I know that I just had a nightmare. I don't remember any details. Do you go, oh.

That's just the sleep apnea. Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know what's causing it. Yeah, with the nightmares. Wow, we got a lot going on. Yeah. Seth Lynch, we need a Nate Land golf classic. The neighbor gets the Aaron Webber Memorial Gout Awareness Program for the cure. You think it's the gout that's calling you a nightmare? That's an office reference. The rabies one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Scott, something for the cure. Something for the cure. They solved it already? From Meredith.

Yeah, we – yeah, she got hit by a car and they did rabies. Yeah, she had rabies.

I want to know why you have nightmares. I'm trying to think if I have nightmares. I definitely have just like a scary dream. Yeah. Like I've definitely had that, but it's not often. This is the first time I've had just a string of them. Do you just wake up in a sweat? No, I just wake up like, oh man. And I just know that I just went through something. Yeah. Scary, but I don't know. You don't even remember what it was. No, I don't remember what they're about at all. Yeah. Huh. Are you in the street?

I don't think so. You just wake up and you're just outside? No, I'm never like falling either. I don't know what it is. Our buddy Dusty, you know, that was in the hospital, he said he was on some hard drugs and he had some crazy dreams. Yeah. I mean, even while he was sitting in a chair, he would just shut his eyes and tell his wife what he was, it was like he was dreaming while he was awake. Wow. Yeah.

I would pay money to see his dreams. Yeah. Just Dusty's. You know, they always talk about lucid dreaming. Yeah. Like where it's like you experience. Have you had one before? You can apparently train yourself to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I think like Pete Holmes does them where Ray Romano had them like where it's like they really believe they're flying.

Wow. And like, yeah, it seems like it'd be, I guess it'd be fun. The training of it where like you got trained to do it. You're like, all right, dude, I'm not. I don't want it this bad. Yeah. It's like you're trying to go to bed and you're, it's like you gotta, it's a real thing to like train yourself and you're like, I'm not doing all that, man. Aaron studied in college. Lucid dreaming. He had a class. Did you?

No, I didn't go to Hogwarts, dude. I mean, not far off. Notre Dame is what it's based off. Notre Dame would be what I would imagine is the closest to Hogwarts. There is. The dining hall on campus does look just like the Great Hall in Hogwarts. People always called it that. I don't know why Notre Dame feels like that, but it's like what they're wearing. It's like a proper school. We're wearing normal clothes. We're not wearing cloaks. I think y'all do.

I think if you had stayed a little longer, you would have seen those cloaks. If you had majored in philosophy, that's when they bring it out. Yeah, if you got the degree. Brett Skinner. Hey, Nate, Aaron, and Bark. Long-time fan, first-time folk. What do you guys think about being invited to be a groomsman and being told you have to go buy expensive clothes for the wedding?

I've always felt like when someone asks you to be in his or her wedding, it's pretty rough if they're making you go spend a bit of money on clothes that you may never wear again, especially since it's not like you can really say no when they ask. You know, it depends. Everybody has to go buy their own tux. That is always kind of crazy at your wedding. But it's like when you get married, you're like, well, I can't afford to buy everybody's tuxes. Yeah.

And if you go make them buy something really nice, a couple hundred bucks. I mean, honestly, it depends on how old you are and stuff like that. If you're 24 and you're making some other 24-year-olds do stuff, I mean, you can be like, what do you want me to do, man? I'm 24. If your groomsmen are in their 30s, yeah, they can probably be – it's a little bit better. They probably have more money. But if you're asking college kids –

to like go spin. How much is the tux? Like two, 300 bucks. You should know you're getting ready for this. Yeah. I'm doing this right now. It is awkward. Cause I have to get my groomsmen. They have to go get fitted for a tux. And then there's a bunch of comedians that have, uh, two comedians. Um,

Three guys who claim to be hands-free. Yeah, apparently it's not me and not two in this room, I guess. But it is like it costs like 200 bucks to rent it, and it's so awkward to ask somebody to do it. And that's not – you're not going super crazy with it. No, it's just like one of the more basic ones, dude. Yeah, yeah. But I've done it a few – I've been in a few weddings, and it's just –

something you have to do yeah you know you're a close friend of that person so that's kind of the deal that's kind of the deal yeah it's part of and if you were in that like yeah i mean truthfully if you're close if you were like dude i can't i can't afford to you know some reason you gotta say you're like i don't have money right now dude uh it is it is a weird thing which is the women have to buy their they yeah they do dresses i don't know they're even crazier probably because yeah

Oh, $200 too? Could be. Could be. There's a little Nate Land spinoff over here. What's going on? Brian Land. We're doing fashion. She's been waiting all these episodes to finally speak up on something. Finally, something I'm interested in. That's what we just talked to the woman. All right, we'll talk to the lady. Hey, what are dresses like? And you're like, all right, well, she can talk about other things. You're like, can't she? Yeah.

Why are her shoes so tight? Now, are you getting the Grimmsman all a gift? Oh, yeah. I'm supposed to. I don't know. I'll think of something. Give him like a flask. That's what people give. Give him a flask. I was going to have a custom bobblehead made of everybody. I thought that would be a cool thing. Yeah, yeah. Then they're going to keep that for the rest of their life. That's...

I was trying to think of something unique. I mean, look, the ship's probably sailed on that. I'm getting married in a month. I can't have all that done. You know, like I always think money clip's not bad. Like it's something that they would be like, you know what? If someone's got a wallet and they're like, oh, you know what? I'd like to try a money clip. I remember I got a money clip once. And you're like, oh, it's fun. It's something that I don't have. Do you use a money clip still? I use a money clip now.

I don't use that one, but I've used one now. I've got knives and flasks and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, money clips, you can have their initials on them. And that's, you know, just like I think if you think of something that someone would want to be like, oh, I would like to try that. You know, and usually it's something very, you know, you can give them a notebook. Like someone just sent me a notebook. Yeah.

But, you know, if you want to do that, like, you know, I don't know. Just something that they think even they're like, yeah, I think I do want to try this. And maybe they don't. But maybe bobblehead would be, you know, they might like a bobblehead. You give them all bobbleheads of you. Of themselves. No, they might like that. I don't know, man. Where are we at? Steven Pelkey. Can we get an episode about production, the stage hands that make shows happen?

Also, can we be introduced to the crew in the room? You cannot. We've been talking to them. Yeah. Do y'all want to introduce yourselves? No one can hear you. She's like, I didn't ask to be. You got to yell real loudly. That's it. Tristan. Behind. Tristan. I always said Tristan. He goes way there.

Caleb is only on air and land, so he's not here today. Caleb is usually on air and land. Yeah, there we go. Everybody's in. It's a fun crew. It's a fun crew. Yeah, we could do an episode on production, how they make stuff. You know, when I did my pilot, I always sound like I just did comedy 40 years ago. You guys don't know what it's like. But to see the crew on that, it's 100 people.

The guys that are building the sets and stuff like that, they just build them everywhere. And they just go in and like them getting stuff set up, how specific the designers get stuff. It's a very unique kind of thing to be like, hey, I need a house. A, to make my, in the show, my parents' house was like, all right, I want a parents' house. I want a Southern house. And I want it to be older. And like they made the kitchen really look

Kind of old and specific. They had a seat, like a roller chair, like this kind of chair. Yeah. Computer chair. They had that against in the dining room, on the dining room table, the kitchen table. Because it was like being like, well, this dad would want his own chair at the table. And so it's like that kind of specific of a thing to be like, well, that's kind of describes the character of the guy. Yeah. It's like doing something like that. So, and then they had to design our house that was...

you know, more like shiplack or whatever that is, you know, like make it look more Southern like that. Is there any chance that house could be used on another show? No, they used it. They actually used it for something. God, what was it for? Because they asked us to use it for something because they were going, like another show was going, in their episode, they were going to a TV taping.

So I think they were going to use ours, which I almost need to know what that was. I wonder what that was. Maybe it was blackish or something. That's cool. But yeah, so they would have used it for that. Yeah. Which would be cool if I could see it on TV. I never really got into that. They ask if that's okay. They ask me, and you're like, am I even allowed to answer this? I'd be like, no, we're good. Billy Dempsey.

Sounds like a baseball player. Billy Dempsey. Sounds like he's a good ball player. Last week, I was playing solo behind a group of four, and they would not let me play through. After about seven holes, I decided to lay up on my approach shot every time so that it would land about 20 yards from the green as they were putting. Nate, what are some of your biggest frustrations on the golf course? Here we go. I'll be back in 30. Yeah, it's...

Yeah, I'll tell you how to act on a golf course. If you're not good, look, if you and your buddies, you and Aaron go play and neither one of you are good, do whatever you want. Y'all can be the nonsense, but you got to keep moving. You feel like people behind you, let people through. Yeah. And like, no, we're just hitting it or whatever. Just be very aware of what's going on. People are very oblivious. You can't.

You know, like, I don't know if I talked about it. You can't cheat. You can't act like you don't cheat, but then you do cheat. That's my biggest thing. Someone that goes, I want to play for real. But they will cheat because they will take mulligans. They will kick the ball out if it's a hard shot and all this kind of stuff. So you can't cheat. And then when you get on the putting green, I got to watch you putt five times because you're not – like, that's my problem. Yeah, we talked about that on the philosophy episode. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So –

Yeah, listen to the philosophy episode. Well, why wouldn't that group of four let them – why would they not let him play through? People are just clueless. And if they're not – if they don't play, they don't know to let him play through. Public courses are the worst. If you go to a private course, everybody plays pretty quick because they know – and usually you can tell –

If someone's out there with guests, that's the time they can get a little slow. But the member, then it's his job. It's not really the guest's job. It's the member's job. If on a private course to be like, Hey, we're gonna let these guys play. Is it the etiquette to, uh,

If you're playing slowly, you say, hey, play through? Yeah. Or do you ask to play through if you're going faster? You never ask. You're supposed to ask. So that's what this guy never got asked. This guy never got asked. And so he played behind him. And he was right. He was correct. Now, he was by himself. If you turn and see a solo behind you, like a guy alone, I mean, absolutely. You just let that guy. That guy could tee off with you. Yeah.

And he would – like, you can even do that. Like, here, we already hit, but go ahead and hit, and then just play through us. And then he's going to get to his ball, hit again, finish the hole. And then if you do play through like that, you tend to –

You kind of hit. You give yourself a gimme. You're probably going to get a par, like unless you're terrible. Because you're a par bogey because you're going to just – you kind of hit, and then you kind of chip it up. You kind of speed up on that hole, and you give yourself a little – you have like an eight-foot putt. You just kind of hit it. You go, ah, that's good. And then –

Have you ever got invited to be a guest with someone, but then they play really slow, so you feel awkward because you're holding people up, but you're the guest of the guys that you're playing with? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, you don't know what to do. And you just kind of... You know, because when I play, I play with guys now that everybody's kind of good, so we play very quick. Not super quick, but we can play in three and a half hours, three hours. Depends if we're walking and stuff like that, but...

Yeah, I've definitely done that where you've been with people and then they're not good. That's why I get asked to play a lot on the road, and it's just tough because it's like you just – but some guys will send me their handicaps just so you have an idea. If someone's like, I'm a five, and you're like, all right, that's what I am right now. So you're like, all right, this dude's going to be able to play. Under 10, eight's good. You start getting above 10, you're like, ah, boy.

Oh, boy. What are you, Brian? It doesn't matter. It's enough. That's what it says. It's enough. He goes, well, it's a stroke a hole. He's a 20. He's got to be at least a 20. Probably more. I mean, people get higher, but you're going to get a stroke a hole. Yeah. He will. He's been playing better. No. You played the other day. You won when we played the other day. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? I don't know what you're talking about. Beat Aaron and Felix. Oh, yeah. That's true. That's true. He's better than what I realize now. And you can tell that you've gotten better because you're playing with people that don't play much and you're beating them. Yeah. And so that's a pretty big difference. You know, that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it up, Brian. Yeah. Thank you. I'd like to see if y'all went at it. But I mean, he would kill you. He'd have to give you strokes. You think Brian would kill me? I don't think so. I think he'd have to give you strokes.

I think he'd beat me. I don't think he'd kill me. I mean, when we played the other day, it was pretty close. I don't think it was at all. I think he was like 11 over and you were...

one or two over this was on a simulator but it was yeah i think it was pretty far off and that's a that was giving us 20 foot gimme putts you played my buddy michael and like you had to give him a stroke you should have seen the glow on his face when he had to go to michael all right i'll give you a stroke on this so i mean his whole his whole time we play is like i'm giving him a stroke every hole and he gets to be like

I'll give you a couple of strokes. At one point he goes, no, re-hit it. I'll let you re-hit it. Don't worry about it. That's awesome. Travis Kent, been gay, trying to defend his research from Wikipedia is one of my favorite parts of this show. Since elementary school, I've been told never to use Wikipedia for research, yet somehow this podcast has 41 episodes centered around just that. Nate is right. School was pointless.

Yeah, Wikipedia. Who can you trust? What stands out there to me is he's been told that since elementary school. Wikipedia wasn't even a thing. I was in my 30s before Wikipedia even became a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it is crazy that they tell you not to use Wikipedia.

How does anybody not do it, though? I know. It's just so easy, dude. And everything is on there. And it's way more reliable now. When it first started, I remember being told that in school. Like, would you use Wikipedia? That's like putting Google as your source. It's just so much different now, I think. Yeah.

Alec Richardson, Nate, you did a set on CMT Host about Melissa Peterman early in your career, and you did a joke about time zones. And to this very day, any time a time zone is mentioned, my brother and I quote that joke. So happy to see your success. That is that poster right there. Taped it in 2007. Wow. Aired in February of 2008.

And then that poster got me that gig, that college gig. But it was, yes, that's very funny. Yep, that CMT, it was like John Reap, Mycon. It's a good lineup. Vic Henley. Vic Henley. Killer Bees. Killer Bees, Greg Hahn, Etta Mae, Trish Seward, Greg Warren, Kelly Tranova, Tom Mabe, Gary Mule Deer has been around forever.

John Wesley Austin, I think I mentioned everybody. Robert Hawkins. Mike Armstrong. Mike Armstrong. Robert Hawkins is very, very funny. Greg Warren's very, very, I mean, all of them are very, very funny. Gary Muehldealer has been around. I mean, people might know. He's been around forever. He lived with Steve Martin. Yeah. Him and Steve Martin were roommates. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah, pretty crazy. Yeah, so that was the first TV thing I did. It was in Nashville, which was cool.

So the first thing I got to do, and I stayed at the hotel next to Vanderbilt. Oh, that's cool. The Lowe's Vanderbilt? Yeah. Well, the one that you see. Yeah, the one that's very on now, maybe. Oh, from the football stadium? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we stayed there. And I remember I could have stayed home, but I was like, you know, I wanted to stay at a hotel. Dude, if you get a hotel room, you'd take it. Yeah, you're like, I got to stay in it. All right, Raleigh, Fornia. What was the joke? The time zone joke. Do you remember? Joke about time zones.

What was it? I don't know. What time? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. No, I don't. Alec can write back in and tell us. You had the one about your friend Kevin lives in Florida. Or not Kevin, friend. Yeah, I did have a time zone joke. Yeah, the one about someone's like, oh, I'm from Tennessee. And they're like, I have a friend named Kevin. He's in Florida. Yeah, something like that. I don't know. It was early on. Yeah.

Riley Fournier, Brian, don't feel bad about your nose whistling. One time I was crouching down to pick something up in my bedroom and I heard a cat meowing. I stood up to look around, got on my stomach to look under the bed, but couldn't see anything.

I crouched down again and heard more meowing. I called my wife in the room and she informed me that it was my wheezing when I crouched that was making this sound. So at least you don't occasionally sound like a distressed animal when you breathe. Wow. Yeah. I think that's, uh, yeah. Is that worse than gout, Aaron? Uh, heart. Yeah. Everybody. Thank you very much for writing in as always. Uh,

So, yeah, we did this one. I'm excited about this one. Good. I think so. Good. Well, we'll see. We will see. An hour from now, we'll check back in with you and see how you're feeling. So today we're talking about the Renaissance. The Renaissance. Just going through periods of time. Today we're going to talk about 1982. 1982.

We'll eventually get there. We did the Middle Ages. People seemed to enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah. People liked it. Yeah. So we picking up right where we left off with the Middle Ages. Renaissance was next. I know I was thinking we should have go through all of these.

You know, like all the time periods. You know, I told you that, because you asked me the other day, what comes after that? And I read one place, the Enlightenment. Yeah. Which is after this. But then I read, most places I read just says the Renaissance led up to the modern age. Yeah. I think you can break it down different ways. What's before the Middle Ages? Was the Roman, when Rome ruled the world. I don't know what they called that, but the Roman Empire. Yeah. So we should do that. We can do that. And then what was before that?

I don't know. Yeah. We're out now. Oh, look, what was, go before. Ancient history, prehistory. So prehistory is first. Classical antiquity. Oh, yeah. That's all the ancient Greeks and stuff. I should have known that. Is that the philosopher type? Yeah, it would be all the philosophers and stuff. That's when they were running around. That's why they would have a weird name like that. And everybody else is like very normal named stuff. And then, well, what area did you grow up in? Oh, the classical antiquity. Yeah.

That's when I was alive. Oh, were you, Socrates? And Alexander the Great came, and he's like, when are you alive? The Middle Ages. And then the Renaissance. Renaissance is not up there. Yeah, see, that's the thing. Every chart you look at has different listings. That doesn't even list the Renaissance. See, look at me using Wikipedia, dude. It's under early modern period. It talks about the Renaissance. Yeah.

So what is the years of this? So this is basically the 14th century to the 17th century, roughly. But it's mostly the 15th, 1600s. Okay. Why do they always do that? I know. Why does it always say 14th century, but it's 1500? So we're in the 20th century? We're in the 21st century. Yeah, 21st century. Why do they always go? Why do they do that? Because we've already had 20 centuries.

Yeah. So we're on the 21st one. Yeah. Like when it started, we were already, that's our first century. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when it was zero. When it was zero, yeah. That was the first century. That was the first century. It's like the Pneumonium Party. Yeah. Yeah. Got the date wrong. Yeah. 20, you don't think that's weird? It always, I always have to think it's one less than. I appreciate you saying that instead of just making me feel dumb. What are you talking about? Yeah.

I think you'd be nice, but you played it like. Literally every time somebody's like 19th century, I have to think, oh, subtract one. It's the 1800s. Yeah. Every time I have to do that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because it is weird. Because you want to go, it's 18th century, the 1800s. Yeah. But it's not. But it's not.

So this is basically, so we're leaving the Middle Ages. We're in the Dark Ages. This was your time to shine. There's no charts. There's no graphs. Science was kind of looked down on. Yeah. All right. And now we're transitioning to the Renaissance where air and shine. This is like science and philosophy and learning, education. Oh, you loved it, didn't you? Yeah. Just dinner conversations, asking everybody questions at the table. Uh-huh.

Renaissance means rebirth. It's kind of like when we get back to learning and education, things like that. So what did we say? 14th century? 14th century to the 17th century, roughly. So that's the 1300s and 1600s. Yeah.

I wonder if they know. Do they know we're changing into different times? I guess it's like you name this stuff after. Yeah, I think it comes after the fact. But I mean, so many of the famous people, which we'll get into throughout history, all lived in this same short period of time, very close to each other.

A lot of them knew each other. We'll get into this with these people. So there was this movement called humanism, which is basically where it's like a cultural movement where people started talking about not just –

themselves about god but more about living for yourself yeah and kind of individual freedoms and stuff like this this is a lot of people doing that now yeah yeah for sure yeah this is when the catholic this is what aaron went like catholic church started getting a little pushback and they were trying to hold people down oh this is where it began yep this is where it began and you guys stayed strong

Still doing good? Weather doing all right. Doing all right. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. You're doing real good. You're still the biggest one. The biggest. Yeah. Is Catholics the biggest religion? Yeah. I guess you guys got it all figured out, don't you? You mean the biggest Christian? Yeah. I mean, there's more Muslims than Catholics, right? No, I don't think so. Really? Yeah. And look that up.

I'm sure we'll find out when they fight. Well, this is when the Protestant Reformation started. We talked about this once before. This is where the Baptist and everybody else started springing up. Kind of some new stuff. Yeah. Got a different t-shirt over here. Yep, yep. And when we talk about... Oh, there's more. There's more Muslims. I didn't want to... It sounded like I was way too upset about it. Yeah.

Oh, man, there's more. Let's back up a little bit. Yeah, I guess if you talk about 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, 1.8 billion Muslims. So if you lump all the Christians together. Oh, now you need us. Oh, now, yeah. Coming back around. Hey, guys, we were kidding, all that persecution. Come on back. Let's talk a little bit. No, I didn't know that. The printing press, we talked about that in the inventions. Now everybody can read and get books on their own. And so ideas just started going crazy, and people started living it up.

So maybe the most... Like this is when reading started happening? Well, more for yourself. Most people couldn't read. And I think bishops and monks would read to people. I'm looking at you like you know, but... Yeah, well, my understanding is that reading was...

rich, wealthy, affluent could read and all the peasants couldn't. So they controlled all the information, dude. Yeah. And then when that got flipped on its head, that's when everything changed. It started, yeah. Yeah.

So now everybody's reading. Yeah, or you could at least spread information and you couldn't just squelch it out because it's just spreading so fast. Yeah, a lot of this guy, this guy's not my type of guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So probably the biggest thing you think about through Renaissance is art. Can you name a famous painting? Mona Lisa? Yeah. It's from the Renaissance. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Can you think of anything else?

I don't know. Now that I'm on the spot, you know. Da Vinci Code? Da Vinci Code. Well, that's creepy. I was trying to leave that. They're a great band. Da Vinci Code, yeah, that's stupid of me. Da Vinci Code, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, and Lord of the Rings. Go ahead. The Last Supper? The Last Supper. Yep. Renaissance. Very famous. What about The Scream? You seen that one?

The Scream? The Scream, dude. You never seen The Scream? Probably. I bet I've seen all these paintings. I don't know if I know the names of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this one. Yep. The Scream.

This might not even been the Renaissance. I'm sorry I brought it up. Yeah, I don't think it is. I think it was 1893, not even close. Sorry. Come on, Aaron. Know your art, man. It was the 19th century, Aaron. You stupid. Just barely. Almost the 20th. Almost the 20th. We were borderline. They were probably already saying we're in the 20th. I think I was alive when the screen was painted. It was done by a computer. So dumb.

So Leonardo da Vinci was maybe the most famous painter of the time. He painted the Mona Lisa. He painted The Last Supper. And the Mona Lisa is the most famous painting in the world, according to Wikipedia. So who's the most famous painter now? That one guy that does... Banksy? Banksy. Banksy.

Probably. I mean, I can't name another one. Yeah, I couldn't tell you a painter. Banksy's the only one that people want to buy that stuff, right? And he pops up out of nowhere. It's like, you got to have a mystique about you to be a big... Leonardo da Vinci, was he just all around town? Yeah, he was one of the few painters, I think, that was famous even in his own time. Yeah. So, yeah, he was just hanging out.

He's just a, yeah. They didn't have TV. A lot of these guys didn't become famous until after they died, too. So it's like, who knows? Who knows what guy's living now will be famous later.

Yeah, yeah. Well, Banksy's the only one you hear because he just pops up. People like mysterious things. Yeah. Well, the Mona Lisa, that's one reason why it said it became so famous. Because, I mean, if you guys – I know nothing about art, but I always wonder why is it so famous?

I mean, I couldn't do that. Because they tell you it's famous? Well, it just has such a history. There's so much history behind it. It's a picture of George Washington was a woman. That's true.

It's supposedly a painting of an Italian noblewoman, Lisa Giordini. Oh, sorry. Sorry, Lisa. I think she's dead now. But I don't know. I didn't look that up. But King Francis had it in his house. I think Napoleon had it at one time.

And then it went in the Louvre. It's the highest known insurance valuation in history. In 1962, it was insured for $100 million, which is about a billion dollars today. Wow. I like to ask, if you ever see someone have a Mona Lisa, you go in and go, is that the real thing? You ask them that. And they go, no. Especially when it has a goatee and a mustache on it. No, it's a...

It's just a print. It's just, anytime you see a famous painting, because people have like just pictures of it. Just go, is that the real? Is it the real one? Is that the real one? Yeah, in your house. In your house? In your apartment? And we talked about on a previous episode, it got stolen once from the Louvre. And a guy like just put it underneath his jacket or something and snuck out with it. Yeah, now you can't get near it. No, it's behind bulletproof glass now. Yeah. And...

I don't understand. So I shoot it. People have thrown stuff at it. Oh yeah. Walk me through stealing a famous painting like the Mona Lisa. What do you, what can I do with it? Well, that's the problem. Um,

That guy, there's a couple of stories. He says that someone got him to steal it for him. And I guess that person was going to pay him. But then that guy disappeared. And then that guy, he says, sold six fake Mona Lisas around town that everyone believed was real because the Mona Lisa was missing. But if you bought one, it's like you can never really show it. You're just going to get caught. Right. That's what I'm saying. If I stole the Mona Lisa, let's say I just have it in the back of my car.

Like, what can I, you know, it's only worth money if somebody pays for it. Like, can I just sell this to some? Well, that's what happened. This guy hit it for like three years. You're going to sell it and someone's going to want it. Yeah, but to whom? The mob, the mafia. I think they would do, I think they would be able to do it. How do I go about? I think they fine you. I think if you steal the Mona Lisa, I think you're going to.

people are going to know. And then they display it because they can't tell anyone. They don't display it. It's just the fact that I think people like the ownership of something. Like it's, you know, the Mona Lisa is gone. I know where it's at. The whole world wants to know where this Mona Lisa is at. And this guy knows. And so like, yeah, I mean, I think there's no way you're not getting caught. But the thrill of it before that. Yeah.

Maybe. I guess. Yeah. Well, um. It is crazy. Why are, why is art worth so much? Like, what's the. Because we agree. We just decide. We decide that it is. Yeah. We just decide that it is. Yeah. Is that like the NFT things? Oh man. I don't really know how those work. Have you, have you looked into that at all? No. But it's like, aren't they buying tweets? Like it does, that doesn't make sense to me. And it seems someone said that, uh,

I thought I saw something about it was like even like with Bitcoin. It was like it's like it's all this stuff that's just worth whatever we make it be worth, which is scary because if everybody just, you know, goes, well, I don't want now that's not worth that. Like it's almost like quick cash grabs. And then if people are like, yeah, we're not doing that anymore. And you're like, you could be like, well, I just spent a million dollars on this.

And then it's like, yeah, well, it's over. Yeah. Because people don't want to do it anymore. Like, that's the thing that scares you. You got to pick the thing that's going to be, you know, what was not going to go away, which would be this kind of stuff. Yeah. Well, it's like the guys who paid millions of dollars for, like, Barry Bonds' home run ball. Mm-hmm. And then, you know, nobody likes Barry Bonds anymore. Oh, yeah. And then that just tanks in value. Uh-huh. Yep. Crazy. Uh...

But that would be – then you just got – you got to have enough money to be able to sit on it and be like, yeah, that's his ball. And then you just wait, I guess. But I guess some people don't want to sell it. I went to the Pablo Picasso exhibit at the Frist Museum in Nashville. I just don't understand art at all. I mean, some of it just looks like a kid doodling. Yeah. And it's worth millions of dollars. Yeah. And I just – I don't understand it. It's like – I think it's like –

you got to picture it and like, it's whatever it means to you. Like it means something like, so they go, you know, they're like, Oh, like how, you know, I don't know how, you know, what his thought process was when he made this painting and the story behind it. And it's, you know, people just want to talk. What do you think the thought process behind the Mona Lisa is as we look at it?

What's the point of view here? I can tell you a couple of things that made it so famous. People interpret her smile different ways. It's almost like the dress...

What was it? The black and blue. People see it different ways and hear different words. Some people see that as a smile. Some people, they said, see it as she's smirking. Well, she had to probably sit there for 15 hours. So I'm sure, you know. It's hard to hold a smile. I mean, that's what I would be like. I bet it's as simple as like, yeah, he asked me to do this. And I was there all day. So I'm sorry I wasn't.

just glowing with positivity. And he goes, I'm going to do the lips last. I'm like, are you kidding me, dude? The painting also could have been her throwing something at him because she had to sit there and she's like, this is rich. Should be just her like stretching her back out. She's like, oh my God, dude. How long does it take you to do this? And he's like, I am Leonardo, dude. Don't you dare tell me to hurry up.

He did the lips last, so it's just like a hole right around there. She's like, can I rest my mouth? Nah, I haven't gotten there yet. I haven't. Lisa. What's her name, Lisa? Yeah. Mona Lisa. She's like, can you add some eyebrows in? Nah, I can't do that. Yeah, that's another thing. She has no eyebrows and no eyelashes. Oh, yeah. Well, because she had to go. So what does that mean? That she's been sitting there. I think there's a lot of stuff.

That, like this. I don't need to get to finish it. That we can, that we, and you know, go think about philosophy and you break down all this stuff and she's smiling and you're making all that stuff in your head. And it's as simple as like, she could have had a bad day that day. Yeah. And like whatever reason, she's like, I don't know. I just didn't, like that day was like, it was raining. It's like, this guy's been,

you know, sending pigeons to my house for months being like, will you paint? And I had to write back and put it in a pigeon's beak that my pigeon doesn't grab it as easy. And then, you know, I think that's how they talk to each other back then. Yeah. And then you sit there and, but I mean, it could be, what if stuff is as simple as that?

Could be. Could be. Probably more of that than we realize. Yeah, we do probably look into it more than they even wanted us to. Yeah. We romanticize it. So what did she do? Nothing. Just her husband. They think her husband just hired Leonardo da Vinci to paint her. Yeah. And it just became famous. The smile, though, people see it different ways. It used to be the rumor was her eyes would follow you anywhere around the room. I remember hearing that. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Like an optical illusion. And where is she at?

You mean, where did he paint her? Yeah. Looks like the planet Venus. Yeah. I don't think that's where she was. I think that's just what he chose to paint in the background. Yeah. Yeah. You know. What about her hands here? Can you read into that? I mean, what's going on there? That her fingers a little bit more. Is she there? She looks like she's there against her will, to be honest with you. Yeah. Well, I think she's trying to be the most comfortable. I mean, she sat there for, she had to have sat there for a long time. How long does it take to paint someone? This took three years. Three years.

Did it? That's what they said? She didn't sit there for three years, but it took him three years to finish it. So why is her smile like that? I don't know. She came back and forth for three years, and we're all going, I think she's not happy. I would not be either. Her husband said, I want you to paint my wife. And she's like, all right, I'll do it. This is when women weren't allowed to do anything. And so she's got to go sit there.

And she's like, I don't know, my stupid husband making me go do this painting. She's got a bobblehead. Yeah. Even better. So in December 2010, an Italian art historian said that you could see tiny letters and numbers in her eyes, which he said, if you magnify it, which was some type of hidden secret, he said. But art historians disagree with that. He's like, no, there's nothing there. It's just cracks and stuff.

You see anything, Aaron? Yeah, a lot of H's. For humanism. Yeah. What word has 40 H's in it? That's the code. That's the Da Vinci Code. That's the Da Vinci Code. What if that was the Da Vinci Code, just H, H, H, H, H? Yeah. I read the Da Vinci Code books. Yeah? Don't remember anything about them.

I could reread them right now. Do you ever see the movies? Yeah. The Tom Hanks? Yeah. Were they good? Yeah. I don't really remember what it was, but... I saw them. I don't remember them now. I don't remember anything about them. The part I do remember is what I'm talking about next is The Last Supper. That was the other Da Vinci's big painting because that's supposed to have some hidden stuff in it or some people think it does. Art historians don't really think of it. So The Last Supper...

The painting's supposed to show Jesus right when he tells his apostles that one of them's going to portray him. And just any will do, Aaron. Yeah, I'm trying to find a big one. I am fine with art, though. I know we're making fun of it. None of this means anything. But I am fine with people, if you want something to be worth something and they like it that much, I think that's not a bad thing. If that's your thing and you're into it, then that world of it, I get it.

I could see having a crazy painting. I'm not saying I would even be against, like, you know, if you had, like, some kind of crazy painting, you know, that was something that would be pretty fun to watch. Yeah. Dead Horse? Dead Horse with Kevin. Golly, dude. I'm bombing trying to find this picture. But I do understand. I do get the reasoning behind it. You know, I could see getting into art. I think you get older and you just go –

you could look at it more. That one will do. Yeah. All right. So this is Jesus telling us. That's a perfect one. Yeah, it is. That's funny that you go, you're like, no, that one works. The best one. Yeah. Yeah. Zoomed in as close as possible. Yeah. Go ahead and let's do that one, Aaron. The one that's perfect. Go ahead. All right. Brian, go ahead. So what he did is broke it down in groups of three. When you said that one would do, I was not looking. So I turned to go. You thought it was going to be awful. I thought it would be, something would be off.

You go, he goes, that, you go, that. I was being sarcastic because he tried a hundred that looked pretty much the same. I was trying to, this was the one I was waiting on. I was trying to get that nice. And I thought, all right, I guess it will do.

Perfectly, because it fits the whole screen. It looks like I have the Last Supper thing. Just leave that up there. Yeah. Is that the real thing? All right, so 12 apostles, he breaks it down in groups of three. You see, they all have different expressions. And so people have interpreted what it means. Let's go left or right. All right. So those three guys, that's Bartholomew, James, and then- Bartholomew. Is that right? It's pretty close. Yeah, pretty close. Yeah. Yeah.

They're all surprised. I think that's pretty obvious. Bartholomew. Who? Who and who? Bartholomew looks like he just showed up and he's trying to say, what's going on? Yeah. I can hear down here. He's leaning in like, what'd he say? What's that? What's going on? He's got a big neck too, huh? Yeah. James, son of Alphaeus, and Andrew there with his hands up. What's on his middle finger there?

Oh, gosh. Oh, it's the cursor. Are you kidding? How old are you, dude? I mean, that's so crazy. What does the mouse do? The mouse. The mouse. What's at the top that says a photo? I thought I found something hidden that nobody had ever found. You're like watching a DVD. What's that triangle thing at the bottom? That's the play button, dude. That was perfectly on the tip of his finger. Did you ever notice that Google's in the top of this? You ever look at the top of it? Yeah.

What's that browser? All right. So these are the three. These are like the lowest tier for sure. Nobody cares about these three guys. Why do you say that? Just because you don't hear much about these three. They look like afterthoughts. Okay. Are we not allowed to interpret a painting? Are you saying that... It looks like Da Vinci drew the other nine and was... And then put those guys in? I mean...

If you had to talk to Leonardo da Vinci, if he paints this, and you're like, well, you're going to be weird about me, dude, because I'm trying to interpret your painting. And he goes, all right, man, I'm sorry. What does Sonny D mean? You go, it's orange juice. And then he's going to go, what? I got to have a conversation with you? You're wearing a hat about juice? Regular juice.

I think Leonardo da Vinci would ask you to leave. I think he'd ask, he'd say, I want to paint you. And you'd be like, well, that's an honor. And then he'd leave and you would sit there for hours. Or he would make you sit there for hours and you go back and it's a cat. And then he's like, and you're like, you didn't even paint me, dude. He goes, you're wearing an orange juice hat. No, I didn't paint. I'm sorry. I didn't paint you.

I bought you a shirt that says pretzels on it. Because I guess you're just wearing food clothing now. All right.

Oh, that's fair. So you're saying those three aren't painted as well as the others? No, I'm just saying these aren't the stars of the show. Okay, all right, we'll move on. That's all I'm trying to say. The next three guys, these are Judas, Peter, and John. Yes. These are the, I mean, look, these are the three main characters for sure. All right, so Judas there, he's darker shade on purpose because he's the one that betrayed Jesus. And he's holding a money bag there in his right hand. Oh, yeah. The money got paid. He knocked over the salt. That's bad luck.

Oh, wow. He's got a lot going on. Are these corn dogs on the table? I think that's bread. He should have thrown the salt over his shoulder. To break the spout? Is that what you're supposed to do? Yeah. And I do it. I don't even, I always do it if I spill it. And I just do, I can't remember which shoulder, so I do both of them.

You'd have thrown it right into Thaddeus' face, whatever that guy's name is. Not Thaddeus. See, I already forgot who it was. Yeah, see, Peter there in the middle, he has an expression of anger on his face, and he's holding a knife.

Oh, wow. Yeah. And who's next to him? And John. Yeah. That's John. Is he furious because he's like, you're telling me you're not a woman, John? Well, you jumped ahead, but that's one of the conspiracy theories about this painting. That's really Mary Magdalene. That's the argument they're having. I don't know if that's a conspiracy. I would say that's exactly true. I mean, it looks just like Mona Lisa. Yeah, it's a woman. The other guys look like dudes. And then... Well...

I mean, what is it? He's going to be like, what do you mean? Put her name on her shirt? What else do you want me to do? So he painted the other 11 apostles and left John out and put in a woman? I mean, that would be what an artist would do, would do something like that. I mean, you're lucky Jesus is even in this. Well, maybe that's what Peter's saying. He's like, I know you're a woman. All right. Then you got Jesus there. Now on the other side, you've got Thomas, James, the son of Zebedee, and Philip.

Thomas is clearly upset. Phil, calm down. And then they called him Phil. Tommy, Phil, what are you doing? Jimbo, Jimbo, get in here.

Thomas is upset. He's raising his finger up. Are they yelling at Jesus here? Well, they're all upset because he just told them that one of them was going to betray me. They're all like, what? Oh, and this is like right after he said that. This is their reaction to it. Yeah. Yeah. It's very like, yeah, everybody's listening. That's what Peter's mad. Peter seems like he's trying to figure out who's going to do it. Yeah, he's got a knife out. I think he thinks this lady's doing it. Yeah.

All right. Then we got Mr. Tumnus from Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe back here with a finger in the air. Yeah. And – Yikes. That was a great reference. Yikes. What was that a reference to? You know Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe? No. You know C.S. Lewis? No. I think that was the Renaissance. No. No. C.S. Lewis died in the 1960s. Yeah. Yeah. I got a different – why don't y'all start y'all's own podcast? Yeah.

I don't know. What are y'all talking about? A podcast for people who know stuff. You don't know that guy? You don't remember him? I don't know. I think so. All right. Look at that. Just soak that in. Yeah. And then, oh, I forgot where we were. There he is right there. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. What is that movie? Is it a movie?

It was a pretty famous book. He wrote books and then that one became a movie. Yeah, I don't know. I must have missed it. The Chronicles of Narnia? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what? I think I did. It was a great movie. Yeah, they were great. Nate Lofton is one of his favorites. I actually did like Chronicles of Narnia. But when that came out, I was older.

Yeah. Like, so I would have been the age that would not have went and saw that. He was back to the age that would go see it. But I was in that middle where like, I just, I never saw it. And you were a child. Probably, I think I was in middle school when the newer ones came out. Yeah. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah. And I was in, yeah, I was 20, you know, what am I, 30, 40, 28. Yeah.

right yeah 29 yeah 29 so yeah 13 years yeah you were 25 26 come on dude i was i was already starting comedy i was already in comedy as you watched narnia all right the last three guys matthew jude and simon uh both jude and matthew are turned towards simon trying to ask him like what's going on here why is he saying that yeah like what's up with this simon looks a little older than he

Golly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're just saying, why is he saying that? Because he said it. Big age range in this crew. Yeah. Well, I think that's the key. I did it here. The key to success is you got a wide variety. Our savior brought us all on. He wants different backgrounds. You want different ages. So people come from different points of views. They're having their own little separate...

Well, they're way down there. What do they always say about it being all on one side? Yeah, that's a good question. Most painters, a lot of painters had done the Last Supper, but they made them around a table. He purposely put them all on the same side so you could see their faces and their expressions. That was smart. Yeah, yeah. You're right. This first guy, especially when you see his feet, he really is like, can I please be a part of this group?

Because he came in. Have you ever been the last guy to show up at a restaurant and they have to pull a table over and you sit at the end? That's the worst. A chair over? Yeah, that's what happened to this guy. He goes, nah, I'll be fine. I'm just popping in real fast. What's going on, guys? Anything crazy? Yeah, something quite big has happened. Where you been? Yeah, where you been? Someone's going to betray Jesus. And he's like, I wasn't even here. He probably wasn't talking about me.

The other thing he did differently than other Last Supper paintings is he put no halos on anyone. All the other ones had halos, and people think he was trying to make an argument that these are just normal guys. I would absolutely think that he did that because everybody else did it. So he goes, I'm not going to do it. That's what you would have done. That's what I would have done. I think me and him are probably equal artists. Just a couple guys. Yeah.

But I'm saying, like, as I think, if you're looking like every painting was around a table and most had halos, well, if he's the big dude that's going to do this painting that's been done probably a bunch, he's like, I got to do it. I got to make it so different and better than everybody else. So no halos, put everybody on the same side of the table. Right there, there's already like, people are like, that's amazing. Already separates it. Already separates it. Yeah.

So this painting, the Mona Lisa's in the Louvre in Paris, this was painted on a wall in a church monastery in Milan, Italy. It's still there. Oh, really? It's on the wall? You go see it? This is on the wall? I think they said most of it has decayed over time. I think they fill it in themselves, painting it. But yeah, buy tickets to go see it. I think you'll see it way in advance. Yeah. I'll get tickets way in advance. I think I can see it pretty good. Yeah. From here. You get the idea of it. Okay. You wouldn't go see it.

I would go see it for sure. I was just kidding. Do you guys want to go see the Last Supper painting? You're like, we got to take a train over there. We are in a time now where everybody would think, you're like, I don't know, man. Seems like a lot. And all you need is something to like, well, a lot of it's being kind of going away. I'm not. It's not even, I'm not going to go. Look at this line. I'm hungry. Well, this was Jesus' Last Supper. I don't care, dude. I'm starving. Well, it's not like it's a picture of it.

It is. It is their picture of them. I'm saying it's not like it's a picture of the actual Last Supper. It's a photo. Yeah. Yeah. Not a selfie? Yeah. Someone didn't take a selfie? So, Leonardo, he was killing it for a long time. Yeah. Then the new hot shot young painter comes on, Michelangelo. Oh. Here we go. Now he's got a rival. He's got nunchucks. Yeah.

So Michelangelo, he did the Statue of David. It's one of the most famous statues. And he painted the Sistine Chapel, the roof of the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. And he becomes the new hot guy on the scene. I don't know about hot guy on the scene. Well, that's later on.

I wonder how, yeah, what is their age when they're like making it? Well, I'll jump ahead then. So Leonardo and Michelangelo became big rivals. Yeah. And the church even hired them to both paint on the same wall, their own little thing. And they got into it like they hate each other. Da Vinci was in his early 50s, close to my age. Hmm.

Michelangelo was 29, Aaron's age. Oh. So now he's the hot guy on the scene and Da Vinci didn't like it because he'd always been the guy. Yeah. But this young guy shows up. He's got a car. Is that like me and you, bitch? Yeah. Yeah. Michelangelo, he called him out, made fun of him once because Da Vinci did a horse head sculpture and didn't finish the head. And he's like, how's that horse? They ran into him in the street and heckled him about it. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's where your news, you know, you're just seeing, can you imagine seeing the two most famous painters just go at it? Yeah. And they just run into each other. This was in Florence, Italy. Yeah. And they just ran into each other on the street. Yeah. It reminded me of Derek Zoolander and Hansel. Have you guys seen Zoolander? I haven't seen it. Okay. Go ahead, Aaron. You were going to say something? No, I'm sorry, man. I haven't seen Zoolander. Oh, all right.

So Michelangelo painted the seal of the Sistine Chapel. Have you been there? No, I haven't. I've been. I've been to the Vatican. How is it? Is it breathtaking in person? It is. I mean, there's the one famous, most famous part, the Adam touching fingers with God. But the whole thing is just like, wow, this is pretty crazy. I had always heard, always thought that Michelangelo laid on his back and did this. Have you ever heard that?

Yeah, he was up on like a scaffolding on his back. Yeah, that's not true. Well, how did he do it? They flipped the building upside down and then he drew it? They built like things for him to stand on and he just did this for four years. Really? Four years. He wrote a poem about how his neck hurt. Yeah. Okay, how did he do the entire ceiling in four years and Da Vinci took him three years to do the Mona Lisa? Because she was busy.

She had a lot of stuff to do. Yeah. He goes, I'm not going to do this if I'm paying you good money. And then, you know. So later they figured out that that God thing right there, that's the shape of the human brain. Oh. Oh, yeah. Like his feet are like the stem.

Yeah. Oh, wow. And they don't think that's by chance. They think he did that to, you know, I would like it. If everything's like, yeah, you did that on purpose, right? He goes, I did. My neck was, I was going to go a little bit farther and I was like, I got to get out of here. I got to, this is, you know, so later on, um, I'm a hundred feet in the air on some real rickety wood.

I mean, like old-timey, where you're like... It's just like everything's moving. You're like, oh, God. Kids are running around down there. I mean, it's high, right? Yeah. It's very high. Yeah. He painted them, many of the figures, nude. And then the Pope's like, no, you got to cover them up. This is disgraceful. And then...

uh, Pope Pius the fourth, I'm sorry, not 1960s, 1560s. They eventually painted, repainted them again and took the clothes off of them. Well, it's the original form. The Pope insisted. He was like, no, let's go make a blanket again. Oh, I forgot to mention too, in, in, uh, the last supper that Da Vinci, you'll appreciate this. He's a delicate genius. Someone complained about how slow he was going. So he's like, I'm,

I'm going to put that guy's face on Judas. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. There's a guy at the church that said, why is it taking so long? And then he was like, you know what? I've been having a hard time coming up with Judas' face. It's going to be that dude. And that's what that guy looked like? Apparently, yeah. Right there. Yeah. It looks like a guy that would ask, why is it taking so long? I mean, that's so funny. Like, all right, that's fine. You'll be remembered forever. Yeah. Yeah.

Just that pity. That's what I mean, though. Like when they say, what does this stuff mean? Yeah. Like it's this big thing. Right there should be your answer. He put whoever, nobody, as the face, the main face. Basically, Jesus and then Judas, the main two faces in it. Those are the two most probably looked at, kind of like we try to figure out, maybe even possibly more than Judas, more than anybody. Yeah. Because he's the one. And so...

That important part of a painting, he was petty enough to put a guy's face on it just because the guy asked, how long is it going to take? Hey, man, you going to wrap it up in here pretty soon? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be done actually pretty quick now. So thanks. Thank you, dude. So they want to make it, it's like all this like,

You know, I think when he's doing it, I'm sure there obviously is like he's thinking about stuff, but you go do. But always remember, before you get down some big rabbit hole, he put a dude, just a regular guy's face on it because he didn't like the question the guy asked.

So that guy, he still has that in him. Uh-huh. You know? That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, this was done in the 1500. We have 500 years of just coming up with stuff that probably never even happened. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He was just mad at a guy. Did that happen for sure? We don't know that happened. No, we don't know that happened for sure, but that's a story. I love that story, though. I'm going to pretend it is. So Michelangelo is now the big hot guy on the scene, but a younger guy comes along on him, Raphael. Mm-hmm.

And now Michelangelo. Starting to pick up on something. This would be your new rival. Tanner Newcomb or somebody. Whoever the new hot guy is on the scene. Is the next guy Splinter? The guy after Raphael? Michelangelo famously said Calabunga while painting the Sistine Chapel. No, he didn't. I saw your eyes get big. Did he? I wouldn't believe that. When does Shredder come along?

Shredder was in the Renaissance. He developed a way for paper to be torn into small parts. No, that's joking. Yeah, I think everybody knew that. Go ahead. I don't know if you were looking at me like... No, I knew that was a joke because I could tell. Why are the Ninja Turtles named after all these guys?

Do you know? I mean, do you know about the... No, I don't know why, but I mean, they are. As we're picking up some steam, it seems like it's heading that direction. Donatello's got to be probably coming up, right? Donatello was there. He was around. There you go. So they named after... Yeah. All right. So all these great painters, sculptors came on the scene. The term Renaissance Man, have you heard that? It's for someone who can do... Because he's great at many, many things. Yeah. Golf, comedy...

Oh, if you're... If you're great at a lot of stuff, you're a renaissance man. I'm a renaissance man. Philosophy. Great at philosophy. Lawyer. And Leonardo da Vinci was the original renaissance man they gave to it. Because he only... Not only did that, he invented like a prototype for a helicopter. Yeah, I've seen that. Well, they'd probably go, stay in your lane, Leo.

Why does this guy want to... I'm not going to get in his helicopter. He called it the aerial screw. It was basically a big screw that just... You get enough momentum, it keeps going. That's the drawing of it. Yeah. I've seen people go back and recreate these from his sketches, and a lot of them work. Yeah, he was trying to fly. He was inventing flying machines and stuff. He was trying to. He just tried to do a lot of stuff.

He invented a big parachute that was just a pyramid or a triangle, depending on how you look at it. A triangle. Yeah. Look at that pyramid parachute. And somebody built that and it worked. Oh, wow. Also during this period, Rene Descartes.

I think therefore I am became the most famous saying of all time until he ran into Michelangelo on the street and Michelangelo said Calabunga right yeah oh god alright William Shakespeare you're not buying it huh no I mean it's just brutal I imagine listening to this it's gonna be like you know

People are listening. Oh, yeah. People are listening to this. William Shakespeare came on.

But during the same time, he became the most famous playwright of all time. Yeah. A lot of movies made today are still. It's kind of below past him. I believe he spent a ton of time on these artists. And then just old Billy Shakespeare also is around anyway. I mean, he's like, he's arguably the most important one out of everybody. Yeah. William Shakespeare is, I mean, the guy. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Well, when you think of Renaissance, I think most people think Da Vinci or Michelangelo. They don't think of William Shakespeare? I mean, the Renaissance started in Florence, Italy, so I think they think of art and stuff like that. Shakespeare lived during that time. He was in England. Oh, they were doing other stuff? Well, I mean, they were doing plays and stuff. But the Renaissance is not just in general. It's where it actually was.

I mean, it's that general period in Europe, but it started in Florence, Italy and then kind of spread out. So I think when they think of Renaissance, it's art, which obviously plays are art. Yeah, I mean, William Shakespeare is more impactful than Leonardo da Vinci, especially for us. Yeah. As far as books and plays and movies. Yeah, everything. That's an old joke about he invented a bunch. He invented, we did that. Yeah, all the words he invented. Yeah. I mean, he's, you know,

I think he could walk in. I wonder if they ever met. Were they around at the same time? He came along late 1500s. They probably were alive, maybe. 16th century. Yeah, 16th century. Yeah, same time. All these guys were the most famous astronomers all at the same time. Copernicus. Hmm.

He was the first person that came up with that the Earth was not the center of the universe. And everybody accepted it, right? And then he had no problems after that. Yeah, no, they did not go with it. Because everybody thought the sun was the center of the universe. Yeah. And then he said, I mean, I'm sorry, the Earth was the center of the universe. And he said, no, the sun is the center of the universe. It's not the center of the universe we know now, but it's the center of the solar system. Yeah. And that we revolve around the sun. Yeah.

The Catholic Church did not like that. So they had this, the Roman Inquisitions, which is where they basically would investigate anybody that said anything that went against the Bible. And they felt like that went against it. So they said it was a foolish, absurd thought. And his book that he wrote about it, they put it in the index of forbidden books. You weren't allowed to read it or buy it. Yeah. Could they sell it still? No.

I don't know if he was selling it. Well, like...

Why would they put it in a section that's called forbidden books and you still go get it? And you're like, no, no, no. It says forbidden on it, though. It's just got its own shelf. Yeah. Very bad forbidden books. Just get rid of it, though. Just throw it away. And he goes, no, no. That's the point. I made a sign. Those books are forbidden. Forbidden is like a pretty tough word. It's not like we suggest. It's like those are forbidden. That's a word that you're going to...

I mean, you're going to be like, well, I want to go read all those books now. I wonder if it had the, what is it called? The Barbra Streisand effect.

What's that? It's when you ban something that actually increases the amount of people that want to go check it out. They banned her? She had some movie. I don't remember. I don't know where that name comes from. She had a movie that they tried to cancel or something that actually caused an uptick. Because people were so interested. The Catholic Church did? No, not the Catholic Church. Yeah, just... I don't know. I don't know who. But not the Catholic Church, no. It's called the Barbra Streisand effect? Yeah. And so she had something that made her...

Was it Yentl? And then they went and did... The Streisand effect is a social phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of further publicizing that information off to via the internet. Oh, okay. I had it a little backwards. It's after Barbara Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project photograph of her residence in Malibu...

inadvertently drew further attention to it okay so somebody took a picture of her house she tried to censor it and then that caused a lot of people to go check it out yeah oh yeah like they go yeah yeah and this is 2003 so this is when internet yeah if you tell someone don't go look at something everybody goes and looks for it yeah yeah i don't know it seems crazy but if you put a book tries in effect i mean i feel like that's been happening

Forever. I mean, we're now like, oh, we'll call it the Streisand. It's like that's her idea to go, what if you call it the Streisand effect? You guys ever think about something like that? You're like, what are you talking about? I mean, isn't there a rule of thumb just in life? It's like you want to do something that someone tells you not to do. Yeah. And now in 2003, we... It took that long before we gave it a name. Oh, you know what we call it? The Streisand effect. It makes no sense. It's nothing like...

Even buddy would even want... That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Social phenomenon. Because what are you, crazy, dude? The whole... Oh, God. How do people... But if I was told a book is now a forbidden book, I would...

I mean, I probably wouldn't read a book. Yeah, you would want to do it, and everybody since the beginning of time would want to do it. That's the whole point of it is you want to – Adam and Eve, Eve, don't eat that apple. She eats that – it started there. And we give it the name the Streisand effect in 2003. The ego of these people, whoever made this, is pure insanity that they go, oh, let's call it now the Streisand effect.

Oh, that's the worst. I said, no, don't go look at my picture of my house. And then everybody went and looked at a picture of her house. Like, oh, maybe that is something. Oh, you think it is? So Galileo. That's crazy. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. Mike Masnick of Tech Dirt coined the term in 2005.

What? Yeah, he came up with it. And people just really... And I've heard it a lot. I mean, have you ever heard that said before? I've never heard it. A psychedelic photographs of urinals. Maybe this is just for the internet. Yeah, it's like an internet. Yeah. It's distriding. Internet's pretty new. It's distriding effect. I've never heard this. And have y'all heard this? No. I've never heard it. And I would think...

So listen to this. Before she filed a lawsuit to get the picture taken down, it had been downloaded six times. And two of those downloads were from her own attorneys. Then she filed the lawsuit. And because it got so popular, 420,000 people downloaded the picture after that. Talk about a backfire. Yeah, it's a backfire. It just doesn't make sense that it's like, you know, that's distrised. It just seems weird to...

Name it after her. To name it after her and be like, yeah. I could have been a lawyer apparently in 2003 and told her, yeah, if you do this, a lot of people are going to notice that you're doing this and then more people are going to come up with it. Right? I mean, who figures this out right now? I thought, I didn't know what she, I didn't know what this was. The barber's trade, I was like, what? Why would they call it that? What did she do? Crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

So Galileo, he came along after Copernicus. He was a college dropout. He was the first person to use the telescope to study the sky. Copernicus was doing all his. They were just doing it, looking in other people's apartments before that. And he just one day accidentally knocked it and it went to the moon. And he goes, oh. And then that's how. And then he gets to be.

He gets to be, who is it, Copernicus? No, this is Galileo. Galileo. Galileo. Like, he just yells out, Pat, he just, oh, he drops a pin, and then he's like, what? And he's just looking at the moon. He was just a voyeur that happened to look up. Yeah. Wait, so Copernicus just straight up just looked? Yeah. Do you know your telescope goes up higher? What? What?

I thought it just goes straight ahead, and that's why I was only looking at my neighbors. And they go, no, no, no. If you can make it point up a little bit higher. Yeah. Wow. He was the first to do it, so he invented the telescope? It doesn't say he invented it. It just says he was the first person to use the telescope. He bought one at Radio Shack and then used it? And they go, are you guys using it? He goes, no, we just invented it.

Did he invent it? Several people claim that they invented it, but credit usually goes to Dutch eyeglass maker Hans Lepersche, 1608. He filed for the first patent.

All right. Well, Galileo also said that the earth revolved around the sun. He also found moons on Jupiter and rings on Saturn. So he was killing it with a telescope. But his views of the earth revolving around the sun got him put under house arrest because he wouldn't back off. Well, yeah, he had to recant it, but they still put him under house arrest. The Roman Inquisition, again, did this. And he spent the rest of his life in house arrest.

And then in 1979, so you and I were already alive. Yeah. I was in college. No, I'm joking. Pope John Paul II did an investigation of the Catholic Church's condemnation of Galileo. 359 years later, they ruled that he was owed an apology and acknowledged that they were wrong in their judgment. See, it takes a big man to admit their mistakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 359 years later. I mean, there's no trace of like a relative alive. Yeah.

And then you, you know what? Hey, sorry about that, man. You know, you just saying it to whoever. Yeah. So yeah, exactly. So we're even now. Yeah. Yeah. Isaac Newton also there in this time, he came along, came up to the laws of motion, laws of universal gravity. Yeah. A lot of people think Apple fell on his head. Yeah. That's probably not happened, but he did see an Apple fall and, and asked, why does it always go straight down instead of sideways or up?

Because we're not magic. I don't know. That's what I would say. Why doesn't an apple always fall sideways? I don't know, weirdo. Why would it? As you say to him. And he's like, all right. All right. It's fair enough. Yeah. And that's when he figured out gravity. A lot of weird myths with apples. I grew up being told that George Washington chopped down a cherry. Never mind. Yeah.

It's a different kind of trend. Do you have any others? Sorry, I brought that up. Yeah, one of the myths is you think there's a lot of myths about apples. That's also added into the apple myth. The Weber effect. So when he saw that apple fall, he just said, why does it always fall down? And then he went and figured it out. Yeah. And figured out gravity. Yeah, he has three laws. Did he have to make up the word gravity? Maybe. Maybe.

Because it's not like the word just floating around. Like there's a gravity walking around and he just hasn't been assigned anywhere yet. He goes, I'll put you there. You got to work with this apple thing. Man. And I bet someone goes, do oranges fall down? He goes, yeah. I mean, it's like basically everything. Like he has to always, what about if a tree, would it, it's going to go, yeah, it's going to go down. What about George Washington's cherry tree? What about George Washington? When they fall down. And they go, I don't know who George Washington is, but.

in theory, he would fall straight down. Do you know the story about him chopping down the tree? That's all fake too? I didn't know it was fake. All right. So the whole, I cannot tell a lie that's made up. I think it's just like a myth. It's like a Johnny Appleseed or somebody. Another Apple reference. Yeah. There's one. There's at least one other one. Johnny Appleseed doesn't exist. I thought it was like Paul Bunyan. Like it's just a mythical figure. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. If we had internet access, figure this out. Um,

famous explorers all during this time period, Magellan, first person sell all the way around the world. That's gotta be pretty cool when you don't even know. And then you just show up in the back door of where you started. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, what did he say? It took a couple of days and you're like, I don't know if you made it all the way around the world. He's like, God, that was pretty quick. He didn't even make it himself. He didn't, but his ship did. Of the 260 original crewmen, only 18 survived.

the three-year journey. Wow. And so they, and the goal of it was to go around the world? Well, the goal was it there, Spice Islands, I think, which is near China. And, um, but to go West, no, to go East, they had to go all the way down around Africa and go back up. And they're like, if we could find a shorter route, I bet if we just go due West,

We could find a shorter route. It was not shorter, but they didn't know how big the world was. So he took his ships, went all the way down, I think near the tip of South America to Chile.

Went through the Strait of Magellan, as it was later called. And a lot of people died. They got in some fights with some people and a lot of people died. Oh, like pirates? There's people everywhere. Native Americans and stuff. Yeah. I think he tried to convert some to Christianity and they didn't go forward. I'll talk to him. Yeah. A lot of that. Yeah. What's that? I'll talk to him real fast. Hey. So...

Yeah, it was a three-year trip, I think. Yeah, three-year journey before they got back. So he didn't survive. He didn't survive. Nope. But then the other guys did. Yeah, 18 of them. If only 18 survived out of 260. Yeah.

Can you imagine? How long before you're like, is this worth it, dude? Well, you're in it. So it doesn't really matter. I don't think. Yeah. I don't think you go, this isn't worth it. Let's fly home. It's you're in it. Well, just jump out and live somewhere else. You're like, everyone's dying on this boat. Well, every time they jump off these, they get murdered by native Americans. I mean,

I mean, they're just going into other people's land and they're like, I don't know. Why don't we live here? You're like, I don't know because they apparently don't want us here. There's not a truck stop or somewhere. They're like, not little, not truck stops. Like villages set up. Can you imagine not knowing how big the world is? Like you just are going and you're like, I don't. It's just water day after day after day. And then you see some land and you go to that land so happy just to get a runoff. And you're like, how are these people? And those people are like, what? Yeah.

Who is this coming up on this boat, dude? Like how crazy wrapping your head around that, just being like, there's a boat. There's people. That would blow your whole world up. You just sit there. You're on, you know, just like you're in Hawaii. Like you're just in an island in the middle of nowhere. And then something comes up that's someone else. And you're like,

What? And it's coming from these guys that are like talking about all this crazy smart stuff. And I mean, those guys, you go there, they might be 200 years behind where you're at. Like they might be, I think, right? Has anybody been to these other? 1492. Columbus of the Ocean Blue. Yeah. So when was this? This was before that. This was around the same time, around 1500. So it was about the same time.

16th century. Yeah, exactly. So, but yeah, they made it all the way around. First guy to do it. Seinfeld's favorite explorer. Remember that? Magellan. Yeah. And he's like...

George said that. He's like, yeah, man, circle the world. Who's your favorite? And George says, I like DeLeon. He's like, what'd he do? He discovered the Mississippi. And then Jerry's like, oh, like we wouldn't have found that anyway. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. So Patsy DeLeon did discover the Mississippi. He was the first person, first European to cross over the Mississippi. Christopher Columbus, he made a few trips. Yeah.

Ended up, I thought it was the Indies. That's where the name Indian comes from because he called them that. The East Indies. And they're like, that's John. His regular name. Yeah.

Hey guys, you the indie? I mean like... No, I'm Chris. Chris. This is Tom. Yeah, he wrote home and said, these people aren't very smart. I showed them a sword and let them cut their hands by grabbing it. That's how dumb they are. So he wasn't very nice toward the natives that he met there. They enslaved a lot of them and even brought them home. And then the queen was like, no, don't do this and sent them back. Wow. Yeah.

You know Columbus saw manatees for the first time, and he thought they were mermaids? He wrote about it in his diary. Yeah. He's like, we saw mermaids over here, and they are not as good looking as everybody's. Yeah. He's like, they're way more masculine. Some wide hip mermaids. There he goes.

I mean, just he thinks like, ooh. He goes, did you guys hang out with one of them? He's like, I trust you. You don't want to. What?

Oh, did you bring any on board? Ah, no. I don't think we had enough food. I mean, I just... He goes, what do you mean? He goes, you know what I mean, right? I forgot what I was going to say. But he wrote in his diary, he was like, we saw some mermaids. She's a big gal. It's crazy. And they're just not nearly as feminine as we'd like. Yeah. He goes, are they beautiful? He goes...

Not these. The ones I found were just, you know, all right, you know, you remember Johnny's wife, right? Like, you know, he's everybody just, all right, you know, Johnny's wife, right? I mean, just for a point of, if just, just so you get it bigger than that. And they go, what? Bigger than Johnny's wife. He goes, yeah. Oh yeah. He goes, now I was above, I was looking at the water and you know, they don't move quick, but yeah.

Yeah, their faces are just like a horse and just not attractive. Because I know a couple of guys that hung out with them, but I didn't. I had nothing. I was like, I don't think so, man. I think there's, I'll wait until I find the next batch. Do you think that was it? Do you think he'd been selling for months and months and finally they see that and think it's a woman? Well, imagine never having seen anything that looks like that.

and you've heard tales of mermaids and then you see that and you're like is that what they're yeah man they're not then he goes oh these dumb indians grabbed my sword can you believe how stupid that's the same in the same sentence that's what the guy goes it's all these just fat mermaids dude i don't know then what'd you do like if it's indian sword they grabbed it they grabbed it cut their hand how stupid are they all right anyway uh

These mermaids, let me talk about the mermaids again. They do these fat, you know. I'll do a couple more. Let's see. Oh, did I say, which one did I already do? DeSoto? No, we haven't done DeSoto. We've done Ponce de Leon. Oh, I got that wrong. DeSoto was the one that discovered the Mississippi. Yeah. Ponce de Leon was looking for the Fountain of Youth. Fountain of Youth. Yeah. And he was really just in Florida.

He thought he found it. Oh, can't you go to it where he found it? I think there is a place. It's called Bimini or something like that. Yeah, yeah.

But he got attacked pretty quickly by some Native Americans. He didn't survive. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of a common trend. Yeah. I mean, just like every time you go there, you just go, oh, look at that. Let's see what that is. They come out. I mean, they just know how to – they lived it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a home game. Yeah, it's a home game.

Amerigo Vespucci, that's who America's named after. No, I don't know if I ever did that. I didn't know that either. Really? Named after a guy. Yeah. Yeah. What did he do that we get the name? Well, he was one of the first people to find the New World as well. Okay. And Columbus may have beaten him, but the guy who makes the maps gave the credit to Amerigo Vespucci and called it America. Okay.

We do not have a Columbus Day. And we have a Columbus Day. We don't have, I've never, I don't know if I knew this. Did you know it? No. But I feel like we gave him the name of the country. Columbus can have a day. But we don't even know who this guy is. Like, this guy's not talked about like Christopher Columbus. No, no. And I mean, it's named, I know it's like, oh, well, it's named after him. But I'm not thinking it's, I never thought it's named after a guy. How do you spell his last name?

B-E-S-P-U-C-C-I. You ain't asking how to spell Christopher Columbus. That's true. That's true. Maybe that's why Christopher got more popular. Oh, Amerigo. Vespucci. I'm looking at the news. Italian restaurant. So that's who America is named after.

Yeah, I don't think they like that guy. I mean, that's crazy that they named after America after him. He's like, no, if he showed up, he's like, no, this name, where you live is named after me. And they're like, yeah, beat it, dude. Beat it. But it was just because- Christopher Columbus comes in, just shoves his face just with his hand and goes, just get out of here. I had no idea. But it was just a German map maker that-

Called it America for him. I mean, so that just shows how easy. So you could just be the right place, right time. Yeah. Yeah. And always be prepared with a fun name. That could be a different place. Yeah. Um, all right. We're talking about that golf. Yeah.

Golf started taking off a little bit. St. Andrews link course was created during the Renaissance. Yeah. The first course ever is right next to St. Andrews. East Lothian, Scotland. Yeah. Guinness Book of World Records. As the first. The Musselberg links. Yeah. Yeah. 1672. I think you can go play it. I mean, everybody goes to play St. Andrews, but like that one too is, it's the first course. Yeah. All right.

I mean, that's a... Yeah. Yeah. That's about it. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. That's what Nate was wanting to hear. Yeah. We got through that one. Maybe we won't do all of these. We learned some stuff today. We did. I did. Yeah. But remember, people are listening. Yeah. But people are... I'm just kidding. No. What was that from? I liked this from you. Yeah. From a couple episodes ago. Oh, yeah. You were getting bored. We were like, you're not interested? I am, but people are listening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Everybody should live by that. People are listening. I think they stopped a while ago, but this is for one where something's got to happen. So if you're seeing this, it's, I mean. What's the next time period we're doing? The Jurassic period? I would do that. You want to do some dinosaur stuff? Yeah, we'll do some dinosaur stuff. Jurassic period? Yeah. Or the, I can't even name another. We probably should just call it dinosaurs. Yeah, we can do a dinosaur one.

You know, yeah, this is all stuff we'll figure out on our own. It's not your responsibility to listen to this, to have to worry about this. We make them leave comments. They have to be funny on this. They got to come...

People ask, how do you guys decide episodes? And that was, they got a little glimpse. They got a glimpse into it. Into the creative process there. Yeah. It's the writer's room. A lot of it on my own is how they get decided. It is tough to figure out which ones. It's hard to figure out ones that, because you want them to be something that we can talk about and be funny. Yeah. That's why philosophy was fun. Yeah. Because philosophy was about, it was a lot of different things. Middle Ages was fun too. But it was...

Not saying that this wasn't fun. Right. But it's like trying to find... You got to find stuff that's very kind of open. I don't know. It makes your brain kind of think and you can make a lot of jokes. So we'll figure it out. We'll get back to you. We'll get back to it at some point. They said it takes 100 episodes to figure out how to do a podcast. Do they really? That's what a lot of people say. We're never going to get to that number. But it was... It's...

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