Ep 993 | Jase Baptizes a 49ers Player in His Pool & What QB Brock Purdy Had to Do with It
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I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to unashamed that Zach, Jason, Al still, uh, still missing dad. He's, uh, he's working on recovery, but it's a, it's a slow go. He's just, this old back is really giving him fits. And so, um, we'll be glad to hopefully get him back in the, in the flow here before too long. But that, uh,

It's Jason, the old duck commander, duck call room. It's growing on me, Al.

You've been a lot more. The first day we did it, you were there this week. You were a little bit out of sorts, but now it seems like it's kind of becoming back to your old duck call room days. Well, because you've got to remember, when I was in this room, it was a podcast before podcasts were podcasts. That's true. There was no audience unless somebody just came by to visit, right? All we did was... If we could have got all that on video, we could have...

Yeah, that's true. So right to my left is the infamous bathroom. Because this wall, even though it looks, let me look at it. Yeah, it looks like a nice wall, but it's real thin. And so you can hear everything that goes in on that bathroom. So this is where we used to sit when Si would go to the bathroom. And Si's a commentary person.

bathroom user. He provides his own commentary to himself. The most hilarious thing that I've ever seen another human do. Just listening to that, which I brought that up before, but I can't. We did an event one time, Jase. I didn't say this that time we did it, but I think we were in Auburn, Alabama. It was me and Cy.

And it was a big thing. I mean, it was an arena full of people in their basketball arena. And, you know, Si looks around and he says, hey, boys, I got to take a leak. You know, what do you sound like, Dad? And so I said, well, I'll go with you, Si. And so the guy took us in there where there were people in the area where we were. And he just goes right into Si mode.

talking and making all these whoo, you know, and all these sounds that everybody is so tickled because they're in the bathroom with side. And, you know, in the bathroom, you know, it is for men, you're kind of eyes forward, you know,

You don't really address people in there. Yeah, it's just, and people don't like, you know, some people don't even like bathroom humor. I mean, my wife has come around, but it's taken 34 years. I'm like, it's funny. It shows that God has a sense of humor. I mean, some people don't know how to have any humor outside of bathroom humor like us. I mean, I feel like all jokes, everything always come back to a conversation about

Well, Zach, it's pretty hard to be sitting here and an elderly man named Cy says, boys, I got to go to the bathroom. Takes off. And then all of a sudden you hear, whoa, what? Good grief. Well, you know, my first instinct is to call 911 or to dare to rush in there and say, you okay? Yeah.

And then he's like, whoa, whoa, wow. It's just, how could you not laugh at that is what I'm saying. That was just a brief. So next time we have him on, we need that. I want to, I'd like to. Let me tell you something. Si has no idea he does this. So he didn't know. We are not going to believe this because we're going to have a guest today at some point in this podcast. Yeah. And this story is incredible.

on what happened last night. I got to be a part of it. God designed it. But one of the contributing factors to the story and the guests that we will have here, if not, I guess the ultimate catalyst for us meeting was he listened, the fellow that we're going to have on as the guest, was actually listening to that podcast.

He turned it on. It's when we were talking about sign the method. Well, no. Remember when I said, why don't we had side the last time he was on? And I said, why don't we just go around and talk about how you share Jesus with people? And what, remember that idea I had, which now I realize brilliant because there was a guy listening to that podcast who now is

just a few weeks later is going to be on the podcast. Yeah. Cause he, cause he, he listened, he heard, he heard, and then something happened. Were you on that podcast, Zach? Do what? Were you on that podcast? I think I was out, uh, on, I think that was during the storm. Yeah, that was, that was, you missed it. That's why we had, well, you were with us in spirit, Zach, so you can take credit for it. Cause I know, but you've learned that from Willie. But Zach, Si and dad were yelling so loud.

at each other like excitedly yeah in a good way right that it maddie was just jumping around over there behind the screen she she is because she's like how do i turn it down what do i do it's just it just it it did bring out an enthusiasm but i'm so glad to hear that i can't wait to meet you yeah he shared that last night and i felt so that's that's exciting but we'll get to that that later so zach tell uh tell you mentioned on last podcast you've got a new podcast

that's coming out called Not Yet Now. Not Yet Now. So you're trying to tease people into being curious.

of coming to, I'm not sure that title is going to work for you. Well, well, we have to find out. So you don't like the title. Well, I'm just saying if I was going to do a podcast, I understand what you're doing. I love the title from a spiritual application. Yes. But I think when people, there's so many podcasts to choose from, you're sending a subliminal message. They're like, Oh, Zach's got a new podcast. I need to listen to it. And then they look at it and say, ah, not yet. Yeah.

I got to keep reading now. Not yet. Now.

Oh, okay. Maybe. So that's the deal. They're like, they think not yet, but then like, no, I just need to do it. Not yet. That's happening now. Like it's the already not yet. No, it's just like Zach's contributions on this podcast, Jace. He says things and you're thinking like, man, that, that sounds pretty in depth. And then you have to get into what do you, what do you mean by that? Well, if it, if it flops, then that will know why it'll be because I picked the wrong title.

But now I'm already in, so I'm invested in everything. I've got everything set up. It's been mentioned. Well, to your point, since I don't read the comments or do I watch the podcast, I'm live, so I don't like to go back. You're doing it just like you did in the duck hole room, Jason. Once it's over, it's over. People say, well, I'm going to go listen to it or I'm going to tape it and watch it. Well, now it's no longer live, and the opposite of that is it's dead.

So it's real hard for me to go listen because I thought, well, that happened. But anyway, I don't read the comments, but our producer one time said that somebody was griping. They're like, why is Jace on his phone? And I want to tell you, has there been more than one people say that?

Yeah. So they're like, why is he on his phone during the podcast? Well, I'll reveal to you what I'm doing on my phone. I'll show the vulnerable side of me. I'm looking up words that my cousin Zach is using. He's not lying. 90% of the time when you see me on, I'm looking up a word and then I can't spell it.

And then when I find the definition, I'm like, well, why didn't you just say it? Say the definition instead of using the word. See, I should have called it big words with Zach Dasher. That would have been. You thought about it, didn't you? I did think about it. But you decided to go for the more clever. I went for the little clever, nuanced approach. I wanted to. But also, I want it to embody kind of our teaching on the kingdom as well. And so it'll be interesting.

And you're going to have somebody on with you, right? You got like a cohort. Yeah, I have one kind of main guest that I've kind of processed a lot of stuff with. His name is Brandon Hudson. He's a brilliant guy. And then we'll have other folks on as well. But honestly, it'll be a good companion for this podcast because we're only going to do it once a week. It'll be released on Tuesdays. Which is the only day our podcast doesn't. Yeah, so it'd be great. Because we're Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. Exactly. So come over, check it out.

um, leave a review. If the review is good, if it's bad, don't leave it. So that's a Jace. If you don't like it, you need to take constructive criticism. I hear it. I hear it. I really do. I know you love me. And, uh, yeah. And I will say that you are, you are creative and you are a brilliant marketer. Um, and really, yeah, I've worked so hard on it. No, it comes natural to you. You're like Phil. It's like, it's not, it's not, uh,

academic, but it's like you've got your finger on the pulse of something. So I do hear what you're saying. I just remember that when my dad came to Christ and that we started going to church, and that's what I was doing. I was not a part of it. I was going to a building that they said, we're going to church, and I would go. And some of these guys would get up and speak, and my eyes would glaze over, and it was impossible to

For me to understand what they were saying. Yeah. It was just, you know, somebody labeled it Christianese. It sounded good, but I'm like. But it wasn't. Yeah, I don't you mean. Well, it's like, and I go back to the, I mean, all jokes aside, the book of Acts was a declaration of who Jesus is. Mm-hmm.

It was not a study in apologetics and theological discourses. I mean, they did bring up the old system and the old law, but only in the context of how God brought this together, how he literally made heaven and earth come together with him dwelling with humans.

So I think you always got, I'm giving you advice here. You always got to keep that in mind. The simple story of Jesus is where the power is. Well, I don't think, we're not getting off the simplicity of it, but Paul, speaking of Acts, in Acts 17, he did go into the Areopagus with the philosophers of the age and engaged in a pretty intellectual discussion with them and made a

made a pretty profound case there. And so I think that what this podcast is going to be is that the best I had, we got the best guys. We had the best compliment on this, on our podcast on a shame that I've ever gotten the other day, somebody was talking about it to me and they said, you know what y'all's podcast is. I feel like we just boil it down. I said, what did it, what you guys are is you are a gateway drug to a very deep Bible study. And I thought,

That's pretty good. I mean, that is what it is. I mean, so I think that what we do on this podcast is incredible. And I actually think we get a lot of deep discussion here. Are you bragging or are you just...

I'm, uh, I am thankful for, for, I find it humorous that we were called a gateway drug. That's why I don't read the comments because when he said you're a gateway drug, I wouldn't have read the rest of it. Yeah. I was like, I'm out. But what we're going to be doing on, on the not yet now podcast is, is we're going to get into a lot of those kinds of discussions and, um,

Kind of what I would say like an act 17, what Paul did in the Areopagus. And so now our Areopagus is going to be anywhere podcast or heard or on the YouTube channel, which will be at Dasher Zach. It'll be that channel. ZACH is the name. Is it dropping on the 19th? Yeah, we'll drop a few episodes on the 19th and then we'll repeat every Tuesday. We'll have a new episode every...

And we'll get into some of these. And I actually feel like it'll probably be because, you know, kind of like our preaching, probably all of us preach and teach. The Unashamed podcast is because we're here so much having these conversations. It kind of just informs. It is my Bible study. So it kind of informs a lot of what we're doing anyway. So we'll. Yeah. And I would say we all prepare. I mean, I would say for we do four podcasts a week.

Which I would say I probably prepare five to 10 hours per episode. Yeah. Just in Bible study. So, you know, it's. Which is why I try to use it in a lot of my crossover stuff that I do. Oh, wow. I get it. Look, I was up there preaching and I'm like, I lean over and tell Missy. I was like, I said that about three podcasts ago. Yeah.

This has been one of my best sermon prep has been our discussion of the Bible. Do you give us credit, Al, when you rip our stuff? No. But I got it from somebody else. Well, the reason why is the Holy Spirit is the author of all the material. It's all His stuff. Come on, there you go. There's no plagiarism. It's all His. I've been saying, I don't know where I heard it from, but Jesus is the place where humans and God meet.

And I was like, I have been using that so often lately. I just think that's a great line. You know, Jace, one of the blessings that, uh,

Lisa and I get in our just going to and fro in America is that most of, I'd say probably 75% of the speeches that we make around the country are on behalf of the unborn. We do a lot of fundraisers for pregnancy centers and right to life groups. And it's just, it's a blessing to be able to, you know, go out and meet people that are like-minded because being pro-life is, it's a lifestyle for us. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

Being people of faith, we love the Lord and we love people because we believe they came from the Lord. So which is why we've been active in adoption and fostering. And we're just like the glory of human life is is awesome.

And it's so personal for us. You know, Lisa, you know, she says in her speech that she wishes that she had known about a group like Preborn, who's one of our sponsors, when she was 16 years old facing an unplanned pregnancy. She didn't know. And she could have heard that baby's heartbeat. She would have made a different decision. So it's personal to us. We love Preborn. They're the nation's leader in introducing mothers with unplanned pregnancies to their babies.

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uh, preaching school together, uh, Bible study for two years. Why didn't they call it seminary? They didn't call ours a seminary. They didn't call it Bible school. Bible school is what ours was called. But I'm not even sure. It was seminary for. Oh yeah. Yeah. Most of the people there turned out to be like preachers for, but I, I didn't, but, uh,

but that's what i was going to say though jace i i felt like of course i was i'm almost five years older than you i was married and had kids and i was looking at maybe doing something because the duck call business wasn't working out for everybody and you know what i never made any money doing it and so this was an opportunity to me to just see if this might be something i would want to do yeah but i wasn't sure but what i liked about jace and when we were learning together of course we're driving to school every day together so we're having conversations

about what we had learned or a lot of times it was about our fellow students and some people that annoy Jace or whatever. And so we were looking at it from different perspective, but I always appreciated your perspective, Jace. It was always unique, even back in those days. And like when you would do a chapel lesson, which was the only time we really got to hear each other as students, as we're learning,

I always thought, man, this is just a different way of looking at it. And you were young, so that may have been part of it. But I think it was because you were living Acts, because you were all these people, your friends, the list you've talked about for your leading people to Christ. We got small groups going on every other night. I mean, we were in it. We were in the thick of it.

And I think that's always been a positive. And that's why our approaches, mine and yours are a little bit different in terms of how we get to text or how we explain it or how we talk about it with other people. But I think that's what makes our podcast so good. I've said this before. Of course, we hadn't had that for a minute, but.

Yeah, I feel like we're looking at it from four different gifts of perspective in terms of ministry. I think mine is more pastoral. It's where I'm naturally, I'm a grinder. It's just the way I've always done ministry. Zach is definitely more of the apologist, kind of the deeper thinker, the looking at the nuances of things that are interesting and different. Jace is the evangelist. I mean, it was just...

Sharing Jesus with people. I mean, making sure we keep it simple and keep it real. And then dad's the prophet. You know, he's he's the one that's black and white. There's no middle ground. There's no gray. And he's going to hammer it home because he thinks like a prophet. He thinks like, you know, Elijah, one of those guys. So I felt like God brought us together as a quartet.

with all those different perspectives. And that's what helps, which y'all both mentioned about Peter and Paul, you know, Peter had the same struggle. You remember he said, and then either first or second, Peter, you know, Paul, we love him, but he's kind of hard to understand. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

He was just having a moment. He was like, you know, I love him, but whoo, you know, some of his stuff. Yeah, bless his heart. I've used that many times. It's like, especially when you're arguing about some of the stuff that Zach will probably get into, which I look, he's right. I have these conversations and these discussions. We've had more biblical arguments.

As a family, then you can count. I mean, but it's a good way to learn because people put their positions out there. But some things that Paul writes is hard to understand, which causes a healthy discussion. And nobody in our family gets their feelings hurt. So it's a safe place to really go off on people. I say for the most part, there's been a few times in our family

family history through the years where people got a little hot, you know. It kind of cracked through. I remember one. Yeah. Well, one of them was involving your dad and my dad, I thought. As they were leaving his yard, they're still hollering at him like, you know, you're wrong. Yeah.

Well, because what happens is you get and we kind of avoid try to avoid it on the podcast. We try to stick to the word as much as possible. But you get into these areas of just church stuff and, you know, denominational stuff. And that's a lot of those old arguments like that. It was more over that kind of stuff, which is really interesting.

Not even, I mean, it was biblical in the sense we were talking about the Bible, but it just, it would get into these the way, but this is the way it's always been. It's going to be this way. And so those arguments, they tend to be much more heated. Yeah.

Well, right. I think the reason we're bringing this up is because Colossians two really gets into a difficult passage of scripture. You know, he spent the whole first chapter talking about who Jesus is and what you have and things are going great. And it's such a rally text because everybody can dive into that one. And he gets to like two chapter two and verse two. And he's like, okay, here's my purpose. I mean, it's like, okay, well,

This is Jesus. He's awesome. King of kings. You're devaluing him in a certain way subliminally because why is he stressing this so much? He's like, you don't realize when you said Jesus is Lord, that's it. There's nowhere to go from there as far as transformation and growth and maturity to your life.

So he gets to verse two and he's like, my purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart, united in love. So they may understand, have complete understanding and know the mystery of God, which is Jesus Christ in whom are hidden all treasures and wisdom and knowledge. And so then he's like, well, I tell you this so that no one may deceive you by fine sounding arguments.

So he brings up the idea and he kind of doubles down on it when he gets to it in verse eight, because he says, see to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy. So danger. In the TV world, Jace, we call this the tension point. Yeah. We just brought tension. Yeah. So Jace, this is why this is going to be the podcast. We have to,

We have to be able to combat hollow and deceptive philosophies. Exactly. But we do that according to Paul, but as you just mentioned, anchoring it in Christ. Oh, exactly. So when anybody disagrees with anything that I say, I immediately go first to Jesus, kind of like Paul did. Because Jesus is the one that changes your heart and he changes your mind. I mean, we're going to get to this.

which i'll save it but i really want to get into it when he gets to chapter three and he's like set your hearts on things above set your mind what's it say set your minds set your hearts on since then you have been raised with christ set your hearts on things above where christ is seated at the right hand set your minds on things above none earthly things so it's

The heart convicts you in Jesus, but it allows the mind to change. Just think how that works. So he says that set your hearts, which is your decision, desire, infrastructure inside your body, not talking about your physical heart, and then set your mind. Well, that's your reasoning that you read these scriptures in you. But then he goes on in 15 and 16 and he says, let God,

the peace of Christ rule in your heart. And then 16, let the word of Christ dwell in you richly. Well, just think about that. Set your heart, but then Jesus rules your heart, set your mind. And then he's like 16, let the word of Christ dwell in you richly. So there's your sermon. There's something about setting and letting, right?

Christ at the center, because it'll not only change your heart, it'll change your mind when you get off. The danger that you have anytime you engage in any kind of Bible study or philosophical argument or discussion or anything about culture or doctrine or theology, all the ologies that we get off on, the problem is when we take the thing and put it first, and in this case, like

Paul does not start with argument against hollow and deceptive philosophies. He doesn't begin there. And he begins with the centrality of who Christ is. So we have to always start there. And then that's our basis. That's our filter when we study who he is.

and who God is, you know, and then the hollowness of the philosophies, the way we approach that is we just see how does that stack up against who God is. And when that doesn't fit, then we can reject it and we can, I think it's the best apologetic ever or the best, like, how do we determine what's true or not? If you examine the nature of God, what you're going to see is you're going to see God

beauty itself you're going to see love itself it god is attractive god is wonderful and so i'm going to look at who he is and then anything else if you start to examine it you're going to see that this is a death work and this is not produce life and jesus is life and jesus is the image he's the image of god so look so here's what happened here's this is the setup for our guest

I literally started in Colossians because I got a text from a guy. You said, well, how do you live out the book of Colossians in our life? Which is really what this is all about, right? We want to grow in Christ. We're talking about what's that look like in real life? So I get a text from my neighbor who says, there's a guy who wants you to baptize him, which...

I get those texts sometimes. It happens quite a bit. Yeah. And so what's my answer? Well, who is it? Who is this guy? Where's he from? And so that led to a series of events that happened at my house last night. And then we have the guy who had the guy, which is my neighbor, who they've never met, which is a crazy story, brought him in.

And we had a Bible study last night. And he is actually there in the duck house. He is here. So we are literally, he is coming on the podcast after our Bible study. And I think you'll see the connection to the book of Colossians in the story that he will tell. All right, this is going to be exciting. So we're going to take a break. We come back on the other side of the break. Jason is going to introduce our special guest today.

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Welcome back to Unashamed. Jace, the frame is wider. You have a rather large young man there sitting next to you. Tell us who he is. Well, the backstory of this is I'm back in the duck call room, but I'm by myself and everybody needs a friend. And so I'm going to introduce our guest, Colton McKivitt.

I got that right? Yes, sir. And we met actually last night. And so I introduced this story by saying I got a text from my neighbor

who was actually our lawyer during Duck Dynasty. So it's been a while, but he just never left. He's actually from California. So you have a connection there with them because that's where you're currently residing, right? Yeah. And so I'm introducing, well, let me just ask, this will be funny. So what do you do for a living? Professional football player. Yeah.

He is a professional football player. The NFL, the national football league. And he's not a wide receiver. He's not a wide receiver. I could tell. He's on the line somewhere. I could tell that from looking at him. Maybe wide, but not a receiver. Exactly. But do all offensive linemen want to be receivers? I mean, do you want to then put you in that package where you get that touchdown? Oh, there's the ultimate dream. I mean, it almost came true, but –

they called in the past personnel and they, they yanked me out pretty quick. But yeah, that's, it's in there. And so you play for the San Francisco 49ers, which is interesting. So the, actually it was really weird last night. So they came over and you actually pulled in next door, which was my neighbor's house, but you had never met my neighbor. So somebody within the San Francisco organization, uh,

knew my neighbor yeah and uh and i think you wore maybe a duck commander shirt yeah sweatshirt yeah and so maybe you should tell the story on how i mean how did that happen because that was the first question i asked i was like how did you get here yeah i mean it's a it's a crazy story um you know guy um targeting azim is his name

He works in the 49ers. Yeah, yeah. He's part of the ownership group and does a lot of empowerment work through the owners. We were going to go on a bear hunt with him the year before, me and my buddy. You look like a hunter. When I saw you, which we'll tell that story, when I was like, I never met this guy, and I was like, well, we'll see how this Bible study goes, but we might have you on the podcast. And then I got to thinking,

I don't even know this. I never met this. And then my neighbor, he hasn't met you either. No. And Al found a picture when he Googled your name. We can, we can show that. And you were duck hunting. I don't know if you're familiar with that picture. Do you have that picture, Maddie?

Yeah, you had – well, what I was impressed, there were two other guys. They've got the face paint on. You didn't. But you're the one that had six mallards hanging around your – a limit of mallards, and you were wearing a Duck Commander beanie. And I was like, well, this is our kind of guy, right? Beanie is what I was like, so let's do this.

so anyway back to your story so so the guy he he sets you up yeah my neighbor yeah who's from california yeah and i've always considered him a weirdo that i love because he was from california and he's a lawyer and uh he really wasn't a hunter when we met him so it was just he's always seemed like kind of the yuppie of the neighborhood so yeah so you so you reached out and uh and

and actually asked about being baptized. Yeah. So how did you get there so we can set up for the audience? So he said, come up. You know, he had a hotel in Pollock, Idaho. And we just showed up, you know. He's like, come bear hunt for two, three days. And, you know, we were kind of checking out his property. And, you know, I had the Duck Commander sweatshirt on.

And walking back to the house, he goes, you know, you want to meet him? I was like, you know, you hear it and you're like, you take someone, you know, word for what it is like, oh yeah, sure. You know, whatever. Um, and then through the, you know, empowerment work and game plan I've been doing with him, you know, I struggled asking for help growing up. Um, and then even in my early career with the NFL, um,

Um, and I was like, you know what, let me ask this guy if he really, if it's all, all talk or if it's real. Sure enough, I asked him, I was like, Hey, you know, my dad's dream, um, was to get baptized by, you know, the duck commanders. Um, and you know, we've always been a fan, grew up watching all the videos and everything. And, um,

you know, a couple of days later, he's like, Hey, it's a go. I'm like, really? You know, I couldn't believe him at the time, you know, it actually happened. And, you know, you finally asked for help and it, you know, happens. Holy cow. You know, listen, listen to the, it was kind of a cool series of events. You know, I knew God was listening and that was kind of my first, you know, time hearing it for real. Um,

And, you know, he said, it's going to happen. Listen to the podcast. Um, and you actually, I brought this up earlier. You actually were listening to the podcast where we had Cy. Yeah. And so tell us about that. So how did you even, I mean, you just picked a random one. Yeah, it was a random one. You know, I, you know, my fiance, she was working at night. So I had some time to fold some laundry and, you know, study plays. And I put the podcast on, uh,

And it was right after I asked a couple of days later and I, you're talking about getting baptized and what it really meant. And, you know, I had never been baptized before. And, you know, I had grown up in the church and being a Christian, you know, I never knew if it was a thing that I actually had to do or, or if, you know, I wanted to. And sure enough, they're talking, you guys are talking about being baptized and what it meant. And, you know, I knew it was time that, you know, I had to take that step and really, you know, let God,

you know, God can control my life and, um, you know, follow, really follow and have a relationship with him. And I knew this was, this was going to be a part of it. Um, and sure enough, you know, Cy has crazy, as crazy as you see watching, you know, from the outside and he goes, um, you know, if someone put a gun to my head and, you know, I tell him, pull the trigger, I'm ready to go to heaven, meet, you know, meet my maker and, you know, I'm ready for it. Yeah. He's like, I'd go today. Um,

And that hit me hard, man, because I was like, you know, why wait? I've done a lot of very conservative and waiting on things in life. And I kind of sit back and I was like, there's no time. I was like, this is available. You know, God has a plan for, you know, all this to unfold and work and for me to listen and actually act upon it. And sure enough, there's a reason we're here today and a reason we met. I have to say, Jace, I was really proud today.

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Whenever Jace told me that you were coming, I was like, and I looked up and I saw that you play every Sunday. He's actually the starting. He's the starting. Right. Yeah. And so I was like, well, how is Colton coming? Are they not playing Sunday? And he said, no, it's a bye week. Which made it even more impressive to me.

you know, in the middle of your season that you're, that God is working on, you know, I mean, just that you were open to his leading and to, you know, to where he was going to take you. So I just, I thought that was really a cool part of this story is that, cause you know, we all look at it and say, once you guys start playing football, you know, you're not thinking about anybody else or anything else, but it's not true. I love what you said. I'm folding laundry and I'm listening to the podcast. That's what we do. So,

That's the way we live, you know? Yeah, and you said a couple things. So what we did was, you know, the first thing I did, and you remember last night, feel free to jump in there. You know, I sat down and I brought up Colossians 2 because that's where we're at, which we said in the first segment. It's a difficult passage to wrap your head around. I mean, baptism comes up.

But I actually read this where we're at in the podcast, so I thought it would be a good living illustration. Because from what I gathered pretty quick, you were a little confused on exactly what happens here. And if you remember, I started with Jesus. This is about Jesus saving you. And I basically just went through several verses where people were baptized and what it means.

And it was so funny because his dad and mom were there too. And when we got down to the baptism, which it had just rained, and I have a pool, which I was kind of telling you, I'm really not a pool guy, but it's turned into a burial ground in my backyard. And it had just rained. And when I hit that water, it was about the coldest that I've been in years. A chill hit me, and I was literally shaking. And so was his dad.

But Colton showed no sign of that. And I was like, what's up with this? And he's like, man, I do an ice bath every day. So it actually probably seemed warm to you. Oh, yeah. But I was just, and we videoed it the whole time. I don't know, somewhere in between the adrenaline, the Holy Spirit, and the coldness of the water.

it'll be real memorable. When I asked you, we talked about Jesus, went through baptism, and we'll do a lot of that when we get to Colossians 2 on our conversation because I found it enlightening, some of the questions you asked and the discussions we had, and it was a pretty lengthy Bible study. But I just basically said, what is your confession?

And your speech was one of the greatest confession speeches I've heard. He basically just shared Jesus and the gospel. And he ended it with, I'm ready for him to be the Lord of my life. And so I did something I don't normally do. I said, I'm no way, in no way going to attempt

to raise you up. We're going to rely on the Holy Spirit and you. I'm just going to put you down and then back up. And so that worked well. And then we,

We baptized his dad, which became a real powerful moment because it came back to my childhood where my biggest issue was my dad, just because we were, you know, before he was a Christian. And, you know, my dad baptized me. And in that moment, we talked about it last night, we became brothers. You know, we're father and son, and we became brothers, you know, in the faith. It was a really, really cool moment, you know. Well, you know, everybody has a different way of,

of kind of describing that moment, Colton, that you experienced. And you mentioned her fiance. I always explain it in a relationship like that. Some person that you love, the love is there. The commitment is there. You want to spend the rest of your life with this person. And then at some point you're going to have a wedding where in that wedding, you're going all in the whole world knows we're now one for life. And that's to me, sort of like what your baptism is.

You already have a relationship. You love the Lord, but you want to make it public. You want to just say, you know what? I want everybody to know I'm all in. And so I always describe it. You know, it's not a perfect illustration, but it's a pretty good illustration because there's really only two vows that you take in life that seriously. One is your one with your creator and your Lord, and the other one is with your bride.

And so in both of those, we spend our whole lives, you know, trying to do it the best way. Yeah. One thing that came out of our conversation I was going to ask you about is, you know, you kind of looked at it like your parents, you were very complimentary of your childhood. I mean, I remember I asked you how your childhood was and I think his parents who are in the studio with us, he said it was awesome. It was fun. It was a great foundation for,

But you also said, you know, you just had never really felt like, even though you knew about Jesus most of the times, it was just kind of going over your head. And you'd come to a moment in your life

where you were like, I need to go all in, you know, on Jesus. But one of the other, he mentioned the side podcast, but you also, and you don't have to give his name if you don't want to, but you can, but you mentioned that one of your teammates had made a real impression. So I was wanting for you to kind of talk through how that happened or maybe what they said that got your attention. Yeah. So, um, you know, our quarterback Brock Purdy, um,

Huge, huge Christian. He's very vocal about his faith. I kind of shared with you last night, we had a long conversation in the training room with one of the coaching staff and me and him just kind of sharing our stories about kind of our walk in the Lord. It was a couple months ago in the OTAs. That's our off-season program program.

I went to his locker and we were talking about the end times and it kind of struck me. He's like, I'm ready to go. He's like, fine. He's like, let's go right now. I was like, I'm excited to go to heaven and meet my creator and have that. And I was like, I kind of checked myself because I was like, man, I don't feel like that.

I was like, what am I? Because God was always in here, but I wasn't listening. I didn't know how to have a relationship. I always knew it was there, but I couldn't hear it. And that was one of my, stop the chariot you said last night. That was my moment. Yeah, we read the Acts 8 because we were kind of trying to wrap our head around what this means.

And I was saying, you know, that Acts 8, because I kind of gave you the overview about Jews and Gentiles and Acts 2, and I was like, you know, Acts 8, here's this Ethiopian. I mean, they're riding along in the middle of nowhere, and he's reading Isaiah 53. And he looks over to Philip and says, who's he talking about? And that verse says, he began right there and told him the good news about Jesus. And the next...

Verse is he looked out there and saw water and he said, why shouldn't I be baptized? And so you just think because I was kind of making a point about because the questions, typical questions came up. Can you baptize somebody anywhere or whatever? So I brought up the desert in this moment. I mean, we were at my pool last night and pretty late night. And it was cold.

And I was like, it was a stop the chariot moment, which he, he, he, I could tell he liked that because he's like, you know, here I am very successful NFL player. Uh, and you're very appreciative of the opportunity they've given you and God's given you and you've worked your butt off, you know, and it's a violent game. I mean, when he changed shirts, just the bruises on your body were incredible. I was like, man, that's a rough sport.

But we just had to stop the chariot moment, and it happened to be in Louisiana. And his family's from Ohio, and he flew from San Francisco. They flew from Ohio. We all met at my house, had a big meal, had a great Bible study, and then buried the old Colton and his dad all in one night. ♪

Well, there's no doubt. I mean, you realize that even I'm so glad you said I didn't know that about Brock Purdy. I know he's a great quarterback. He's been amazing. And he seems to be not the kind of person that's, you know, he seems to be in control of himself. But that's so encouraging to believers.

You know, to hear that about athletes, because I realize you're playing a game, you know, you're doing you're doing your job, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. But that's why we love to see that in people that we admire. And, you know, look, the NFL is the you guys are the modern day gladiators of our culture. You know, you're out there, big guys running around. I'm amazed when you stand on the sideline at an NFL game.

you realize how big and fast and strong these people are. They're not like the rest of us.

And so the fact you do it at the speed you do it, we marvel at it. And I just have to say, the Saints are terrible this year. They're stinking it up. Cowboys, same way. I'm a Cowboy fan too. But I'm going to be pulling for the San Francisco 49ers the rest of the way. Are you officially switching over completely? We're for this season. I'll have to see what happens at the end of the season. Because they had a rough start, but they're starting to put it together. But after meeting this man and hearing about Brock Purdy, I'm all in for the 49ers.

Well, yeah. And you know what was funny? As soon as he said that, my wife, who has become a football fan, she was like, well, I guess I'm rooting for the 49ers. Now, that was her first response. That was mine when I first heard this story. But I wanted to bring up, because your journey, and I know a lot of our listeners want to hear, I mean...

There's no doubt, you know, you're a country boy. You have followed us through the, we were talking about the Duckmen videos, and your dad kind of became famous when you were at West Virginia. You went to college at West Virginia. And because their mascot, is it a raccoon? Yeah, it's a mountaineer, and he's got the raccoon skin cap. Yeah, his dad. So they showed me a picture when his dad was at the game. And your first impression would be, whoa.

That's a lot coming from you, Jays. Oh, yeah. I was like, whoa, it literally looked like the raccoon was alive on top of his head. And he's like, oh, once he wore it, everybody wanted him. It became a thing. I've seen him in the stands before. Yeah, we're the Mountaineers. Let's go. Because a raccoon's tougher than he looks. Yeah, he's scrappy. I wouldn't want to scrap with one. Cut you up. But what was interesting is, and so I think somebody asked you last night when you were drafted. Yeah.

And so tell us about that process because it was during COVID. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was. I mean, the first thing my agent said leading up to that week was, you know, it's probably going to be one of the worst times of your life because we weren't I wasn't expecting to get drafted super high or, you know, maybe second day rounds go by and it's COVID. So I wasn't able to fly home to Ohio, you know, to be there and watch the draft and

with my parents and family. Um, you're just watching it by yourself. Yeah. I'm with a roommate in an apartment in Arizona where I was training all off season, you know, after college for, for the draft and combine everything. And, you know, I'm on the phone with them and, um, you know, just sitting there watching, waiting for your name to get called. And so two days have gone by hours have gone by. And then all of a sudden you still, you get the call first. Oh yeah. Yeah. They're like, Hey, um, you know, San Francisco on the phone, um,

and your heart jumps. Y'all get real excited and anxious like holy cow San Francisco and they're like we're trading the Miami Dolphins for the 153rd you know picking the

2020 draft. Oh, so they traded up for you. Yeah. Which made you feel, okay, now we're talking. They were like, we were going to take you in the fourth, but we figured we can get you in the fifth. I was like, all right. They saved a little bit of money, but no, it was cool. It was awesome. They took you in the fifth round and look, by an ironic twist of fate,

Now, I don't think Brock Purdy was in that same draft. No, he's in his third year. So in Brock Purdy's draft, he was actually the last player picked in that year, which you know what they call that. You know what they call it? What do they call it? Y'all don't know that? The last person, what is the last person called who is picked in the NFL draft? This is interesting. Mr. Irrelevant.

I've never heard that. You said that last night, which I knew that. But isn't that funny how he became real relevant in your life? Real quick. And real relevant for the 49ers and the NFL. I mean, the guy – he's a kid to me, but the guy, like –

I've never seen a rookie take it on the game the way he did and was so good. If he hadn't gotten hurt that first year, I think I would have won the Super Bowl. I don't think there's any doubt about that. So they picked you, and it was a COVID. You didn't get to celebrate with your family. And even the season when you first played, you told me, which I have forgotten about that.

So his first year was the year they didn't have crowds. They had the cardboard. Yeah, cutouts of people, fans that sent in pictures and dogs and stuff, and you run out. That's the NFL. You're pumped up. Your first NFL game, they got the noise going, fireworks, and you run out, and there's not a sound. Oh.

Oh, man. There's no people in there. I cannot even imagine. You know, we all just kind of saw that, thought this is stupid, and went on. But can you imagine for his first game? There's nobody out there. I mean, even though it's on TV, you're like, I know that had to be –

a difficult thing, you know, and just kind of miserable. And you were coming from West Virginia, which has a great fan base. I mean, that's an exciting place for football. So you had to go to just an empty stadium. It's hard to imagine. So I asked, I know we're almost out of time, but I asked you, I just think this is a real motivational thing. Cause even though people are like, well, you're living your dream and God's using it, you know, all these cool things are happening now, now that you you're secure in your faith.

But after the first year, you know, you had a difficult time. Yeah. You actually got cut. Yes, sir. And so you're like, well, it's over. Because I asked him, I was like, what really motivated you? And so describe that process about you eventually being, here we are, five years into it, and you're the starting right tackle. Yeah. I mean, you know, that rookie year, you kind of get a redshirt year with

with the Niners, you know, if you show enough, you know, in that first year, they're going to keep you around and try and develop you. And, you know, I didn't make the development. I didn't get better on that second year. And they're like, you know, Hey, numbers aren't right. Um, you know, we're going to let you go. And I actually, when I got called in, I thought he said, Hey, you made the team. And I was like, Oh, thank goodness. You know? Cause I knew I was on the, I was on the block. Yeah. Um, how devastating is that? Is you, and he's like, no, you misunderstood me. Yeah. You're out.

Yeah, man, I broke down and I vividly remember all I said was, thanks for the opportunity and walked out. And then I tried walking out of the building like, no, hey, you got to talk to your coach and everything. And I'm like, I'm getting out of here, man. I was devastated. My dream had been broken and it was all because of me. So that was the hard part. But I was mad, madder than heck.

Um, you know, I wanted out, I wanted, you know, agents talking to other teams to get on the active roster, Houston, Philly, you know, Carolina, everywhere. I was like, get me out of here. Um, you know, luckily they're, you know, unfortunate for the guy, but you know, there's an injury and I got bumped up to active and, you know, those first couple of weeks, you don't make the pay in on active roster. You don't have the guarantees of a spot. And,

The first couple of weeks, I was hard to deal with because I was angry at the world. Then I had a realization that this is an opportunity for me to not lose it again. Rarely do you get a second opportunity at something and even at your dream. I took it and ran with it. They had an idea that I could be a starter and it was in there. I just had to have the work ethic and belief in myself that I could do it.

yeah um and they kind of grew me um the year before the year after in my third year and then um you know our starter he got a big contract in denver and it was my opportunity to slide in and take over so um you know i've done that and this year you know god has really blessed me and you know my perspective has shifted of you know it's all god's will and you know he has

you know, playing for me and this is part of it. And, um, you know, just trusting in him and, and having that relationship has really, you know, have had me have a successful, you know, eight games this year. And that's, uh, that's been powerful for me. And, and now I'm all in, man, it was, it was,

I was ready last night. You know, on the way in the airport, my dad's like, you know, where are we going to do it at? Are we going to do it in a river or a pond or, you know, a pool or whatever? And I was like, I don't care, man. The energy he had last night was like a defensive lineman fixed to come and he was going to pancake.

was the energy that he was portraying about let's go to this water. I want to get this right. So it was an awesome experience. That's what you would expect. I want to offer up a prayer as we close out here for our new brother. Um, and, uh, as we close out on a shame, father, I just want to come to you and man, I'm so proud of Colton and the, what you've done in his life. Uh, thank you father for the success he's had. Uh,

But more than anything, thank you for a willing heart to follow you. And so I pray blessings on him. Pray that he'll be the best influence and example for you in all of his endeavors that go on from here. I pray for his fiance and when they're married, their family, that you guard them and protect them from the evil one. I pray for his dad and mom and

and family and grateful for the submission to you in their lives as well. We love you. We're grateful. We get to meet wonderful people along the journey and we have with Colton. So just bless him father mighty ways. We pray this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Go Niners. Woo.

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