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Episode 4: Almost Everything She Says… Is True

2023/8/3
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Believable: The Coco Berthmann Story

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Lynn Packer:通过调查可可·伯斯曼的过往经历,发现其叙述中存在诸多逻辑漏洞和与官方记录相悖之处,例如其关于被性贩卖的指控缺乏证据支持,且部分细节与官方记录相冲突。 Packer 认为可可的故事在逻辑上难以置信,并通过调查可可的出生证明和签证申请等文件,找到了可可生父和哥哥的联系方式,并与可可的母亲Renata取得联系。Renata提供了大量文件和照片,证明可可关于与母亲断绝联系的说法不实,并指出可可的许多说法与事实不符。 Renata Roof:否认了可可关于被性贩卖和家庭成员参与其中的指控,并提供了证据证明可可的许多说法是谎言。她承认可可的童年经历确实很艰难,父亲酗酒,家庭经常搬家,可可在12岁左右开始出现心理和行为问题,如经常晕倒、自残等。她曾带可可去看医生,但医生将这些问题归因于青春期。 Renata表示,可可关于她妹妹被杀害的说法是虚构的,并对可可的谎言感到非常沮丧和痛苦,甚至一度想过自杀。她承认自己曾对可可失去耐心,但否认自己虐待或贩卖可可。她表示,自己与可可的继父Gregor曾有过一段关系,并怀疑Gregor可能对可可实施了性侵犯,但她对此并不确定。 Coco Berthmann:声称自己从很小的时候就被家人性贩卖长达15年,并详细描述了被虐待的经历,包括被性侵犯、自残和自杀未遂等。她还声称自己的妹妹被杀害,并指责母亲是“操控大师”。 然而,调查结果表明,Coco的许多说法与事实不符,例如关于她被性贩卖的指控缺乏证据支持,部分细节与官方记录相冲突。她的叙述前后矛盾,难以置信。 Mike Roof:对姐姐Coco的指控表示怀疑,认为姐姐编造了很多谎言。但他同时表示,由于自己当时年纪太小,无法确定是否发生过秘密的性侵犯事件。 Stephanie:作为一名与问题青少年工作的专业人士,她曾与年轻的可可(Sandra)接触过。她没有发现可可身上有明显的虐待迹象,但注意到可可会在周末或服务结束时出现崩溃和歇斯底里的行为,这让她怀疑可可可能遭受了某种形式的虐待。她没有听说过可可被性贩卖,也没有听说过可可的妹妹被杀害。 Stephanie指出,可可从未直接向她透露自己在家中遭受虐待,但她的一些行为让她感到可可可能受到了某种形式的虐待。

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To try to get to the truth of Coco Berthmann’s past, the investigation turns to Germany. Coco’s mother provides evidence to contradict many of Coco’s most horrific stories. But it’s clear that people were concerned about Coco’s welfare from the age of 12, when she first started showing signs of abuse. And even her mother believes that something must have happened to her. The investigation zeroes in on her mother’s former boyfriend, a man named Gregor.

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