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Preserving Democracy (with Garry Kasparov)

2024/11/21
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Garry Kasparov: 我认为2026年许多选民会对特朗普感到幻灭,因为特朗普无法创造经济奇迹,通货膨胀问题也不会消失,这会给其他候选人带来机会。此外,我认为特朗普对美国民主构成了严重的威胁,他的当选对美国民主制度以及国际局势都将产生深远的影响。他试图将权力私有化,并将权力集中在自己手中,这可能会导致民主制度无法抵抗他的压力。他制造每天新的丑闻的能力是他的超能力,这会使人们麻木,而价值观是唯一的防御。应对特朗普的策略是创造一个替代方案,而民主党目前并没有做到这一点。赢得选举的关键是击败特朗普,而不是让每个人都感到舒服。民主党不应该对特朗普的每一个举动都过度反应,而应该选择可以赢得的战斗。预测2028年大选的结果还为时尚早,但民主党需要重组并提出新的愿景。美国允许乌克兰向俄罗斯境内发射导弹的决定为时已晚,这本可以更早地改变战争进程。乌克兰战争很难通过谈判解决,因为普京的目标是消灭独立的乌克兰。 Preet Bharara: Matt Gaetz 辞去众议员席位后,无法再回到众议院。取消教育部需要国会投票通过法律,总统无法单方面取消。尽管特朗普无法单方面取消教育部,但他可以通过其他手段来削弱教育部的职能。Alvin Bragg 就特朗普曼哈顿定罪案致函法官 Merchan 的信件,其选择在两难之间。Alvin Bragg 的办公室在如何处理特朗普的曼哈顿定罪案上进退两难,一方面要尊重总统职位,另一方面要尊重陪审团的裁决。一部分选民同时支持AOC和特朗普,这挑战了传统的政治分类方法。民主党人常常害怕冒犯任何一个选民群体,因此他们不愿讨论一些有争议的政策问题。赢得选举的关键是击败特朗普,而不是让每个人都感到舒服。在政治宣传中,过度强调世界末日可能会适得其反,降低说服力。赢得选票的关键在于创造一个可行的替代方案,而民主党目前还没有做到。

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Why was Garry Kasparov worried about a second Trump term?

Kasparov believed Trump posed an existential threat to American democracy, having already normalized unacceptable political behaviors during his first term. He feared Trump's second term would consolidate power further, leading to an oligarchic system similar to what was seen in Russia.

What did Garry Kasparov suggest as a solution to political exhaustion?

Kasparov suggested creating a strong alternative within the Democratic Party to offer voters a viable choice, thereby making it more difficult for Trump supporters to push their agenda. He emphasized the need for a new vision and leadership within the party to combat Trumpism effectively.

How did Garry Kasparov view the Democratic Party's performance in the recent election?

Kasparov criticized the Democratic Party for not offering a strong, viable alternative to Trump, leading to his victory. He pointed out that the party was disconnected from the ground reality and failed to capitalize on the anger against the establishment, which was a significant factor in the election.

What was Garry Kasparov's opinion on the Biden administration's support for Ukraine?

Kasparov believed the Biden administration's support for Ukraine was too cautious and delayed, allowing Russia to cause significant devastation. He argued that more decisive action, such as allowing Ukraine to strike Russian territory, could have changed the course of the war earlier.

What did Garry Kasparov predict for the future of the MAGA coalition?

Kasparov predicted that the MAGA coalition would weaken if the Democratic Party could create a strong alternative. He suggested that disillusionment with Trump's economic policies and the lack of miracles could lead voters to seek other options, provided the Democratic Party presents a compelling vision.

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Garry Kasparov discusses his concerns about the Trump victory and the factors that influenced the outcome.
  • Kasparov endorsed Kamala Harris due to the existential threat posed by Trump.
  • He observed a disconnect between the Biden administration and the ground reality.
  • The Democratic Party's failure to present a strong alternative contributed to Trump's victory.

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Garry Kasparov is a chess grandmaster and Chairman of the Renew Democracy Initiative, a nonprofit dedicated to defending liberal democracies worldwide. He joins Preet to discuss:

  • Trump’s plans to consolidate power within the Executive Branch

  • The need for change within the Democratic Party

  • What normalcy might look like in four years

  • How Trump may impact Russia’s war in Ukraine

  • Strategies for surviving political exhaustion

Plus, will Matt Gaetz be the new Attorney General? Will the Department of Education be dismantled? And, can Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg convince judge Merchan not to dismiss Trump’s Manhattan criminal conviction?

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