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Election Anxiety, Anyone? (with Evan Osnos)

2024/10/31
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Preet Bharara: 本次访谈探讨了美国政治文化中一些重要问题,例如爱国主义在分裂的国家中的意义、如何应对社会中的残忍以及同理心在现代政治中的作用。他还就如何引导高中生关注选举以及为转入私人执业的律师提供建议。他认为,对国家的热爱,一种批判性的热爱,是当今不仅仅是民主党人,也是卡玛拉·哈里斯面临的巨大挑战。他还强调了在选举中运用常识和批判性思维,从多个来源获取信息的重要性,以及除了投票之外,还有其他参与政治进程的方式。针对律师转入私人执业,他分享了自己的经验,并指出不同的职业经历能够使律师在职业生涯中受益,尤其是在处理调查和诉讼时,能够更好地理解双方视角。 Evan Osnos: Osnos 认为特朗普的残忍并非偶然,而是其策略的一部分,旨在表达其对某些理念的蔑视。同时,他指出过度关注此类事件可能会分散人们对其他重要议题的注意力。他还探讨了幽默与政治的关系,以及如何有效地向公众传达政治信息。他认为,在当前信息碎片化的环境下,即使是具有强大口才的政治家也很难有效地与民众沟通。他还谈到了爱国主义,认为左翼人士有时会回避毫不掩饰的爱国主义,这可能是由于对美国历史中种族主义和奴隶制的反思,以及右翼对爱国主义的垄断。但他认为,对国家的自豪感是国家自我完善的必要前提,对国家的批判性热爱是民主党人和卡玛拉·哈里斯面临的挑战。

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Key Insights

Why do some people find it difficult to embrace patriotism on the left?

Patriotism became dishonored due to post-9/11 jingoism, the right's exclusive ownership of the flag, and the need for qualifications when discussing American history.

Why does Donald Trump's crude humor and insults resonate with some people?

His cruelty is a feature, not a bug, signaling a moral position of contempt. His lineup and tone are deliberate, designed to appeal to a certain set of instincts and ideas.

Why do some wealthy individuals support Trump despite his business failures?

They perceive him as ideologically sympathetic and business-oriented, despite his track record, because he 'gets it' in terms of their grievances and concerns.

Why is empathy important in politics, even if solutions to problems are not immediately apparent?

Empathy helps people feel understood and valued, which is crucial for building trust and support, even without immediate solutions.

Why do some people feel left behind and abandoned by the Democratic Party?

The Democratic Party has not created systems to help people through adversity, leading to a sense of abandonment and a search for someone who acknowledges their plight.

Why is it important for leaders to have a sense of patriotism?

Patriotism, when genuine and critical, fosters a belief that the country is worth improving and is not terminally damaged by its flaws.

Why do immigrants often express more unabashed patriotism?

Immigrants often have a chosen love for the country, recognizing its shelter and opportunities, which fosters a deeper, more appreciative form of patriotism.

Why do people sometimes prefer anti-politicians like Trump?

People are fed up with anodyne platitudes and outright lies from traditional politicians, finding anti-politicians' authenticity and directness refreshing.

Chapters
The conversation explores the meaning of patriotism in a divided country, the role of empathy in politics, and how to confront cruelty as a society.
  • The discussion on patriotism in a divided country.
  • The role of empathy in modern politics.
  • How to handle cruelty as a society.

Shownotes Transcript

Evan Osnos is a staff writer at the New Yorker, where his work spans everything from national politics to foreign affairs. Just days before the election, Osnos joins Preet to talk about the big questions in American political culture: What does patriotism mean in a divided country? How should we confront cruelty? And is there still room for empathy in our politics? 

Plus, Preet offers advice to high school students and to lawyers making the move to private practice.

With the election around the corner, and legal questions certain to follow, understanding the law is more important than ever. From now through November, visit cafe.com/november) to get 40% off your membership for the first year.

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