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Welcome to another episode of Breaking Battlegrounds with your Sam Stone. Chuck Warren out of studio again today. We've got our good friend Sean Noble, the host of his own podcast, Light Beer, Dark Money, in studio with us. And on the line, a reporter who's doing work that everyone in this country should be following, and he's going to be talking about the

I was counting it up. We had her on the program a couple of weeks ago, Susan Crabtree of Real Clear Politics, talking about the Secret Service. She is breaking stories almost every day right now about the Secret Service, Sean, some pretty amazing stuff. I started counting it up ahead of time. I have like seven major scoops in the last 14 days. So I don't even know how Susan has time to eat or breathe. But Susan Crabtree, thank you so much for joining us again and welcome back to the program.

Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be with you. Susan, what I mean, this is really remarkable, the amount of information that you're putting out to the public. What what's your secret? I mean, because clearly nobody else is keeping up with you by on the coverage of the Secret Service. It's not close. Yeah.

Well, I forged some of these relationships with sources over the course of 12 years. And so I built trust with them. And then there's...

outrage at the rank and file level. As a Secret Service, these dedicated individuals who are stretched really thin and are willing to put their bodies in front of the president to act as human shields to protect their president, the vice president, former presidents, they are just livid about the constant failures.

that we've seen that led up to, and they're well aware of it for years and they've been simmering, the anger has been simmering and then it's just sort of exploding into the surface after the assassination attempt. And they trust me, their friends have talked to them and I'm only as good as the whistleblowers that are willing to speak and come forward. - Susan, one of the stories you covered was that

It turns out there was no unified command center in Butler, that the Secret Service couldn't talk to the local Leos. They didn't have those back channels set up properly. And at the same time, the acting director called for a major budget increase. You know, you're just saying these agents are stretched really thin. It doesn't seem like the command center would necessarily be a budget issue, but it does sound like from your reporting that there are budget issues also. Yeah.

Absolutely. So I was basing that No Unified Command Center on Roe's comments. He addressed the Secret Service Wednesday at 1 p.m., all-hands meeting, and it was actually a powerful speech. And as part of that, he said –

He said something that led me to believe it was not unified. It wasn't completely unified, but he said we need to start making this unified. We need to start having counterparts like we do at all national security. They're called national special security events, which are designated by only can be designated by the president or the secretary of state.

And the Homeland Security Department, sorry. It's the Homeland Security Department and the president are the only people that can do these official designations that they're called NSEs. And they have always have a really strong command center at those events. That means like the president's campaign events, you know, but not Trump.

Who's an ex-president and clearly does not need protection, right? Yeah, I mean, he's the one having the biggest rallies. He's the one attracting the greatest threats. He's the one under threat from Iran. Yeah, so that makes no sense. And when he said that, he acted like this wasn't one. We need to start doing this at all of our events. So when I clarified with the Secret Service, you'll see an additional tweet below that, that

They had the Pennsylvania State Police at the command center. But the problem was they weren't communicating with the butler.

The ESU, the Emergency Services Unit, they're the ones that were going after Crook. They left – there were some that left their one at least that left his post. So that's the issue there. I don't – this Unified Command Center, they also said they don't want to rely on box radios anymore. I mean, the technology is just obsolete today.

And the drone issue is the first thing I heard the very first day of the assassination attempt from sources that I've built over time. They didn't have a drone there. Susan, ask about that. They didn't have a drone there. It's a big issue. It's been a big issue dating back to 2016 when a lot of the people within the Secret Service were pushing to get drones. They don't

They don't use drones. They only use tethered drones. It is astounding to me that an agency with as important role as the Secret Service would not use drones.

I mean, not every part of the best available technology. Exactly. I mean, the kids in my neighborhood, I've got drones up every single day. I mean, hire those kids. We we we have some peeping Tom here in Phoenix who has a drone that we can't we have not managed to find him and stop him.

I mean, I personally can't stand drones in my neighborhood. Oh, neither can I. But, you know, certainly there are people that are highly trained on drones that work for the Secret Service. They are the ones that have been pushing for these for the drone technology to be used. I mean, it's not a capability issue.

No. It's a decision. In fact, they do use tethered drones at permanent sites like Camp David and the White House. It's tethered drones, but they don't use them at events that are mobile, like the Butler rally. Which really makes more sense because that's where you have to put some eyes up quickly and temporarily. No.

Not a permanent spot. And you don't know the area as well. Right. Yeah. Talking about deploying resources, you had another piece recently.

And in full disclosure, Sean's wife said we shouldn't talk about this, but I'm going to anyway. I know it is. Agent abandoned a post at, I believe it was at Mar-a-Lago, a Trump post to breastfeed, did not have permission. We were talking about that when I got the warning from Sean, and my instant reaction was, okay, you just have to plan for this. You have to make an accommodation. How did they not just have a plan for her to be able to

those breaks that she needed to do that and have someone relieve her at her post. I know, I know. This is a highly controversial. I, I got my share of criticism, but I want to make it very clear that I am very pro breastfeeding and it,

And I have had to make accommodations when I was working at the White House, and it's very tight quarters at the White House. They did eventually designate a room for women to do this, and certainly our society needs to be just much more innovative in that direction to allow this. But I've also been – and I had to –

I had to make accommodations to carry insulated bottles and all of these types of things. And it's very cumbersome, but I did it because there's very little space in the refrigerator in the press area. And if you've ever seen it in the White House, it's really cramped. So keep

People can do this, and every woman that has ever been a working mom knows that you do not want to – that you want to do this, but you also – it's not going to hinder your job. You're not going to – I'm not going to do it –

do breastfeeding on my deadline. I also had been in the press pool where you're about to leave, the motorcade is about to leave, reporters are in those pools writing reports. And the five-minute mark is when this woman was found in a hard room set aside for emergencies for the president and other official Secret Service duties. And it was five minutes before the president's arrival. Gee.

It's a North Carolina Wednesday. So those times are part of the turn.

Yeah, it is a time and a place issue, right? I mean, I think all women understand that. It's a time and a place issue. And I'm incredibly, it's an incredibly intense and stressful time five minutes before the motorcade arrives and leaves. It's always very intense with the reporters. Nobody's milling around reporters on high alert as well as the Secret Service.

There's a lot of chaos during those particular times. That is, in many ways, the time that you could be most vulnerable, right? Yeah, arriving and leaving. Certainly, this is an arrival. It's just this person was supposed to be a poststander, and I –

I'm not going to share other information I have. It could be even worse than we're talking about. I want to get that 100% confirmed. But at the very least, this woman was supposed to be a post-standard, meaning that's her job, to stay in one place and watch for any threats, any problems. And she wasn't there five minutes before the arrival. And it's just absurd. I mean, I'm sorry. It's beyond comprehension.

It is. And again, you know, we all understand the need to accommodate. I particularly understand it. I blame her less than I blame the leadership. I mean, really, it's a leadership function to make sure that those details are covered. Well, and it's what is the atmosphere in the workplace for her to think that that was the approach that she had to take, right? I mean, it's like either somebody's not listening to her when she needs to do something or...

It's just so lax. So, Susan, we have just about two minutes left before we go to break. I don't want to cut you off on this, but I want to move into one other thing here. So apparently when she abandoned her post, you could have had a Secret Service imposter walk right by there or take over her post. It's another piece you broke. Tell us a little bit about that one, then we'll come back with more on that when we come out of the break. Sure. It's...

Sources came to me and said that at this J.D. Vance rally, they noticed that a Secret Service – it wasn't a Secret Service. It was a patch from a Secret Service that was being used by somebody else that was Homeland Security investigations. And so that was disconcerting, and I asked the Secret Service about it, and they issued guidance all –

agency-wide guidance saying this is not allowed. You cannot do that. This is dangerous because you can confuse the Secret Service itself can be confused on who's a part of their team and who's not. And that's a very simple patch. It's just a Secret Service and it could be manufactured.

That was the part that got me. It looked very, very simple, could be easily manufactured. And then the question is, are they like tracking them? If you hand them to somebody, are you getting it back or are they keeping them as souvenirs that then could be stolen from their house and used by someone else? I mean, this stuff is pretty crazy. We're going to go to break right now. We're coming back with more from Susan Crabtree at Real Clear Politics. You can follow her at rcp.com or at Susan Crabtree.

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Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds with your host Sam Stone. In studio with me, guest hosting today, and thank you so much, Sean Noble. Good to be here. And on the line with us, Susan Crabtree, political correspondent for RealClearPolitics, previously served as a senior writer for the Washington Free Beacon and five years as White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner. You can follow her on X at Susan Crabtree. She's been breaking down

Almost every other day, a major story, sometimes more than one story a day about the Secret Service. Another one of those that you, Susan, put out was that there have been in the past now two previously undisclosed breaches of Secret Service security. Can you tell us what happened in those incidents and how did this just now come to light?

Yes. Well, I knew about one of them back in March. And I sort of like, I was not just breaking this because it was, I was like, okay, it's an isolated incident, kind of interesting. But then I had some more questions.

and people were raising it, bringing it to my attention in the wake of the assassination attempt as sort of this example of, you know, Keystone Cops kind of not having a very tight, running a very tight ship. One of them was in Hawaii at President Obama's residence there. It's the old Magnum estate property that you saw in the Magnum series. Wait, wait, wait. Obama owns the Magnum PI estate on Hawaii? Mm-hmm.

No, his good friend does. Isn't that convenient? Oh, my goodness. Okay, now that's convenient and I'm jealous. Yes, I'm jealous too. Yes, I think he bought it for, it's in the story, something millions of dollars, $8.7 million or maybe more. So I think it was more. Chump change, you know.

Yeah, Trump changed. It's out of the realm of my world. So what happened was there was – this was last summer. Michelle and former President Obama were not there at the property, but I'm told the kids were, the two daughters. And it was sort of a prank. They were – young people were trying to get in to post videos from it inside on social media because –

Nesbitt is the last name of the person who owns it. He also runs the Obama Foundation. So they're big donor supporters of President Obama. But President Obama had a big role in tearing down the old Magnum property on the state and then rebuilding it with this new state-of-the-art. Those have state-of-the-art technology, too. There's two pools and this glass.

quite an amazing scene in there. And then these kids wanted to videotape and put on social media.

They got in, passed the state-of-the-art technology, but they were interceded and apprehended, and they were unable to get that video on. That one is less interesting than the one in Miami. At the Miami field office, there was...

and a very erratic man who was able to get into the Secret Service's Miami field office because the door was propped open on the gym where people were working out for ventilation. And they knew the secret, the managers, the bosses had warned against doing this, but they did it anyway. The agents, when they were working out and

The man ended up sleeping overnight there, found a bunk, slept overnight, and then even asked for coffee in the morning and was given coffee by administrative staff.

And then he was only discovered, I guess he also downloaded porn on computers, secret service computers, took a shower. I guess Greg Gutfeld was laughing about that the other day because he was saying... Oh my! There was a lot of material for Greg Gutfeld. Yeah, that actually happened and multiple sources on that story.

And that he was only apprehended when he walked into a tactical training session and the boss in that session said, who are you and what are you doing here? I mean, the guy is unkempt. If you see his mugshot, he doesn't look like a Secret Service agent. So that happened and he was booked, but they didn't book him on federal criminal charges. They let the Miami police.

Police Department book him on lesser charges. He was also earlier that month, this was in March of this year, previously arrested for indecent exposure just separately. So the guy is just kind of an erratic individual. Yeah, but I mean that in a sense makes it worse, right? Like here's this person who clearly is no criminal mastermind who

who had total access to the Miami field office of the Secret Service for, it sounds like, about 12-plus hours. Yeah, I have heard, you know, I heard that it was longer than overnight, but I'm saying at least overnight. He's just holed up there. This is his new home. You know, rent control. I mean, the fact that someone who obviously has some, you know, mental challenges, that's probably obvious by, you know, the

He's homeless. He's, you know, whatever. I mean, that's you're right, Sam. That is way more serious because if this guy had, you know, real bad intentions, who knows what could have real bad intentions and the capability to carry them out, you know, the way you would with a, for instance, a foreign hostile actor or a really committed lone lone wolf. I mean,

This is insane, Susan, that this agency, like from one side of the country to the other, appears to be just an absolute crisis at this point. Yeah.

Well, they are overworked. And that has been Ron Rowe, the acting director, has testified to Congress about that. The previous director, dating back to when I covered the problems after the Columbia prostitution scandal back in 2012 to 2015.

And when you had a lot of fence jumpers getting into the White House with knives, other security problems, they raised the fence at the White House finally to stop the fence jumpers. There were so many fence jumpers. So this has been ongoing. I just don't understand why. I think Congress really took their foot off the pedal there and stopped just –

Just talk to oversight. I guess my question is, I mean, not only the oversight. We have about a minute and a half left before we come to the end of this segment. Not just the oversight, but if these funding problems have been going on for this long, and we know that the Secret Services mission has been expanding in certain areas, that the requirements on them, just due to technology changing, keep getting more and more significant and more costly.

How has nobody really been standing up and sounding the alarm about this? How does the director not go every other month to Congress and go screaming into hearings and demanding that this get corrected?

They didn't have a lot of hearings. Unless there's a crisis, the members of Congress have not held a hearing on the Secret Service. They have budget. The Appropriations Committee does budget hearings, meetings. But they have gotten supplemental requests, I think about $500 million extra this year than they're budgeted just for this campaign season. But we're talking about 3.5.

$6 billion total with the supplementals in this fiscal year, and that's a

about the cost of a b2 my dad used to fly b2 so i mean i'm not anti-b2 in any way shape or form he was in the air force but but but you know we know but i think the secret service and protecting the president of the united states and our other elite another key dignitaries is at least worth one bomber yeah four more yeah absolutely continuity of government we need it yeah

No question. Thank you so much, Susan Crabtree. As always, we really appreciate having you on the program, folks. We're going to stay up with her work. You can catch her at rcp.com or on X at Susan Crabtree. Breaking Battlegrounds coming right back. Folks, welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds with your Sam Stone. Chuck Warren out of studio today. And thank you once again, Sean Noble, guest hosting with me. Folks, you need to check out his podcast. It has the greatest name in all of podcasting, Light Beer, Dark Money.

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Check them out for the number for freedom mobile dot com today. Sean, I think the Secret Service could use some of for freedom mobile technology right about now because this is really a mess. It is amazing because what there obviously has been an addition additional technology.

that have been piled onto the Secret Service, right? Clearly, they're not keeping up budget-wise. They're not keeping up with... Technology-wise. Exactly. I would expect them to be way ahead of...

Well, like you think about that, some of the stuff we spend money on in the federal government. I mean, there is if you just just go back to the basics, the Constitution, the first rule of Constitution is defending the country. And part of that Secret Service is a front line. Yes, because it is continuity of office and and how we don't have.

the best technology, the best people. I mean, it's clear we don't have the best people in leadership. And so you put these, you know, you can sense from Susan Crabtree's comments and the fact that she's getting so much information from sources that these, you know, rank and file Secret Service folks who are putting their life on the line every day. And who are the best. They are the best. But they see what happens at leadership level and something like what happened in Butler, right?

It could have just as easily been any one of those Secret Service agents that was killed rather than a lot of this. And I'm going to relate this back to the Phoenix PD, where I've had a lot of experience dealing with them and their command structure. One of the things you're seeing now, and this is in law enforcement nationwide, is that because of the various like political correctness, the D.I., all the various H.R. stuff that's being piled on, that's becoming the actual mission of the leadership in all of these departments is.

The really good people don't want to go to those positions. Yeah. If you're a really good cop, you do not want to go higher than commander or lieutenant commander where you're responsible for a field division, field office. Right. That kind of thing. But anywhere you go above that, you're spending all your time dealing with this administrative garbage. Yeah. And the best people just aren't doing it. Right. Which which then makes the whole entire system.

Right. It used to be the very best people did advance into those positions, whether it was at your local police department or the Secret Service. Well, and it's what, you know, the interoperability issue, the fact that these command centers, you know, they can't communicate. That is something, this goes back more than 20 years. When I was a staffer for government reform and oversight.

It was literally one of the things that we heard about on a constant basis. This is the late 90s that, oh, this agency can't talk with this agency, can't talk with this agency because there's not the. And so there was actually, you know, budget passed to do this. And it's still fixed when you're talking about a three point. I think she said three point six billion dollar annual budget for this year or whatever. Right.

How hard is it to buy earpiece microphones and hand them out? I mean, you know, we're just going to hand all these out at this event and then we're going to take them back, sanitize them and hand them out at the next event. I mean, that's not that hard. It is astounding to me that with the amount of technology that we have in this world, that this isn't just an automatic open the bag, distribute it, bring them back, we're done. It's another case. Honestly, I keep looking at things like

If you put Amazon in charge of this, none of this ever happens. Exactly. Right? Exactly. Like it's just a matter of systems of control and systems of operation and they're failing miserably. Well, it makes – it does. It does. And you raise a good point. It makes you wonder should – I mean if this continues to be a crisis and it doesn't get fixed, I mean do we need to start talking about –

Private contractors being the protection. I would take what was the very famous one, Black something or other. I want to say it's not Black Rock. No, no, because that's what came to my mind too. Betsy DeVos' brother ran the one I'm talking about. But put them in charge of it. Yeah. And I guarantee this doesn't happen. Prince. Eric Prince. Eric Prince, yeah. That's terrible.

Yeah, those guys, I mean...

You talk about the best of the brightest. And if you were to contract it. This is a problem because government can contract the best people, but they can't hire them anymore. Exactly. That's the problem. All right, folks. Breaking Battlegrounds is going to be coming back with more here in just a moment. Our final on-air segment of the day is going to be Dr. Jessica Spencer talking about Florida's move to legalize marijuana. Stay tuned for that. Coming right up.

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All right. Our next guest up today, Jessica Spencer, director of advocacy for the Florida Vote No One Amendment 3 campaign, a coalition of parents, teachers, law enforcement and first responders dedicated to preserving Florida's public safety by opposing the legalization of marijuana. Something, Sean, you are very familiar with. Jessica, thank you so much for joining us. Welcome to the program.

Thank you so much for having me this afternoon. I appreciate it. Now, for our listeners, I'm sorry, Sean, I'm jumping on this real quick, Jessica, for our listeners around the country outside of the state of Florida. What is the what is the Amendment 3? What is Amendment 3? What would it do? Just give us a quick rundown of where Florida is in this push for legalization.

For sure. So we have a constitutional amendment that is currently on our ballot or will be on our ballot in November. And this specifically speaks to the legalization of recreational use of marijuana here in the state of Florida. Again, it is a constitutional amendment. This is not something that's being proposed through the legislature through a bill. It's not statutory and couldn't be changed. I mean, once something goes on a state constitution, changing it is hard.

You actually, in the state of Florida, have to file another constitutional amendment, which, yes, is extremely difficult. And it's easy to make mistakes, which Arizona did in writing that language. Yeah. Jessica, when we've had experience here in Arizona, we were successful and then we were unsuccessful. 2016, we were able to defeat the marijuana legalization, but then it came back two years later and it passed. What...

You have medical marijuana in Florida? We do, yes, sir. And so the argument that we made, because we did here in Arizona as well, is that it was super easy to get a medical card. I mean, literally, if you wanted to smoke weed... Ouch, my shoulder hurts. Yeah, exactly. So this whole idea of pushing for legalization on a recreational standpoint just seemed to us a bad idea. It's not borne out to be...

The boon that everyone expected, that the proponents expected, and it certainly has created problems here in Arizona. What is the what's the the push, the main focus of how you're working against this at this point in Florida?

Well, to your point, you know, originally it's a constitutional amendment versus I think I heard you say, Sam, about it's not through through like laws. Right. Right. It's not statutory. Right. It's the things that those those would be ways that you could manage them. Right. As the world changes, as your state profile changes, et cetera, or if you see issues or problems, we are looking and facing a constitutional amendment. And the main issues we have with it are.

the language and what's missing and what's written. And right now, and obviously you guys understand this being from Arizona, in states that have recreational legal marijuana, we see a thriving black market. So that's one of our main issues with this amendment. Another issue is the access to children. They estimate or propose or

surmise that we are going to have triple the market that we already have presently with our medical marijuana, et cetera. And that's a huge issue when we're looking at, you know, the defense of children's brains and brain development and access that kids will have. And it changes the landscape for how parents actually have to parent a little bit. You have to think a little bit more about when your child goes to their friend's house, you know, if those parents or,

older siblings in the household, do they have marijuana? And how do you talk to your kids about safety? Another huge issue, which everyone can see on our website is the no time, place and manner. I mean, other states had the wherewithal to put in that you couldn't smoke marijuana in public places or apartments or condos.

Our language doesn't say that. In fact, it doesn't speak to it at all. So essentially, there's no limit where an individual can smoke. And at that point, if you raise an issue of you can't smoke here, they can say you're violating my constitutional right. And that's a huge issue for our beaches and our tourism community. And people come down here because Florida is paradise, right? So it's an issue for those that even live here in condos, apartments. There will be no regulation for that.

I got to say, my personal experience, the last time I was at Florida, I was going to Mar-a-Lago for a Trump dinner event, right? Yeah. And it was right around spring break time, and the only rental car they had at the rental agency when I got in it reeked. Oh, no. Reeked of marijuana. And I have to drive this thing and have it inspected by the Secret Service. No. While we're trying to go into this event. Yeah.

And this would basically not prevent the rental car company from saying you can't smoke in our car, the hotel from saying you can't smoke in our hotel room. Correct. Correct. Absolutely. And it's interesting that you mentioned that you already came down here and and were inundated with a smell or you're or you're having to deal with that. I mean, and that's just with the, quote, unquote, medical marijuana that we have here in Florida. Yeah.

So it's a concern. And then there's another issue that we raise is that there is no plan in their language for tax allocation, right? So people can say, oh, well, it's going to go to schools and other states.

again, had the wherewithal to say tax generation is going to go to law enforcement. It's going to go to treatment. It's going to go to schools, etc. There is not one word mentioned in this amendment about where the taxes, where the plan is for those taxes to be allocated.

That's amazing. I want to add a point on that front. The promises that get made about the tax revenue are so baseless and ridiculous. So they came out about two years ago with the first full year report on legalization here. And they pointed out it generated X million dollars. I forget exactly what it was.

Someone was like, oh, finally, we can give every homeless person a home. And I'm like, well, actually, based on the cost of the city of Phoenix building those, you could build exactly 123 new homes with all of that tax revenue. Right. Like this isn't the panacea. No. You mentioned the –

There's something else in terms of the language here that we made a big mistake in Arizona, and I'm sure based on what you're saying, Florida does not have. And I've talked to lots of local law enforcement about this problem. You mentioned the black market, but it's worse in a particular way. What Arizona and other states should have done, if you're going to do this, whether it's recreational or medical –

is there should have to be some sort of tracking on the grow and where that product then goes from there. Because what's happening is...

All our local law enforcement are clear. The cartels have invested into the dispensaries here and are using them to launder money on one end and two, to funnel a lot of those drugs to the black market, both here in Arizona and in other states from those grows. So the fact that we do not track the product after it's grown through the sale just opens the door to a vast array of organized criminal activity.

Well, and what's worse here with the language, they actually put in that an individual is allowed to possess three ounces. That's higher than any other state in the union for the amount that someone can possess. That's a lot of weed. That's a lot of weed. That's three ounces. That's anywhere from 100 to 150 joints or blunts, depending on what you're rolling and smoking. That's a lot. Yeah.

I mean, Arizona's an ounce and that's a lot. Yeah, yeah. Correct. Well, it is amazing to me that, and I'm a little bit stunned because, you know, the changes that the marijuana industry made to their language between 2016 when we defeated them and 2018 when they won, they definitely made a lot of accommodations to the attacks that we made on them in 16 in order to defeat them.

There's still lots of problems. We just didn't know everywhere we needed to go to try to reel it in. I mean, this is where if it was statutory, and they did the same thing here where they put it on the ballot. If it's statutory, you could respond over time to making changes, like making these changes to the controls of the supply. Right, right. Absolutely. But when you put it in like Florida's looking at doing on this Amendment 3, then you can't do that. You can't adapt. You can't fix it. And there's going to be serious problems. Right.

Right. And I apologize. I'm sorry. I think that's where I try to explain to people is we have to be super careful when we're looking at constitutional amendments for exactly that reason. This is not where laws should be created. They should be left with our legislators and our constituents or their constituents, rather, to provide input when we're making laws. And then each year you can come back and amend and fix and change. But

I think it's important for your listeners, particularly for Florida, to understand that is not what this is. And as simple as it is to read just the ballot summary when you get into the ballot box or even just what's online, you have to look at the actual text. You have to read the text and understand what you would be voting for and understand that it is going to be enshrined in your constitution the way it is written. And there is no way to legislate your way out of it.

Yeah. Now, in Florida, do they have to get to a 60% threshold? Yes. To pass? Well, at least you have that. That's a little bit of a health safeguard. Yeah.

Because, you know, in order for them to get that, I'm assuming they're going to spend millions and millions, probably already are spending millions of dollars. What I presume that you've got, you've built a coalition. You know, we had a lot of law enforcement, we had educators, we had a lot of things that we did is we used at the time we were able to use the examples of Colorado and how many failures Colorado had based on the promises that were made when they legalized there. But but

But as Sam pointed out and you pointed out, the black market issue is one which is rife not only here in Arizona, Colorado, but also California and Nevada. I mean, it is a serious problem that I think Florida voters need to be really thoughtful about.

I think we take it for granted as well. I think, you know, some of the narrative from the other side will be like, oh, it eliminates the black market. This is a way to eliminate crime, et cetera. And I think, you know, to your point, we just simply know that that's not true based on the states that this has happened in. And I think another piece when we're talking about crime is.

The other side right now is pushing this narrative that there are so many people in our prisons and jails. And, oh, this is just such a travesty because law enforcement is going out and targeting individuals and charging them with simple possession. And they're in our jails and prisons. And we recently came out and debunked that.

Because the truth of the matter is there are zero, zero individuals in Florida's jails and prisons for simple possession. So the fact that they're even using that as a reason why this is necessary is just...

It's bonkers to me because to say that there would have to mean that would have to mean that the criminal offense in and of itself is a current problem. And again, it's not because there are zero individuals for simple possession of marijuana. I would be willing to bet that.

Just just me. But, Jessica, I would be willing to bet that there is not a single prisoner in the United States who's in prison for just simple possession of marijuana. No state. I think that data to no great data. No state wants to pay the VIG on keeping someone in prison for smoking pot. Right. It's always a plea from a much more serious charge.

Exactly. Exactly. Or multiple charges. Right. Right. Where that's not just the primary offense. There is multiple charges wrapped up in there and simple possession charge is possibly there. Right.

But it's with all of these other different acts that have happened by that individual. It's just not for simple possession. It's not true. And honestly, it's offensive to Floridians to think that they're going to believe those types of statements. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. Jessica, thank you so much for joining us. Jessica Spencer, director of advocacy for Florida Vote No on Amendment 3. Jessica, how do people keep up and support the Vote No campaign?

So they can find us on our website, which is knowonfree.com. We are on social media. We are on Instagram, X, and Facebook. And yes, please join us. Fantastic. Jessica, thank you so much for joining us today. Folks, be aware on these ballot measures that these are big trouble when it comes down like this. Breaking Battlegrounds will be back on the air next week, but make sure you stay tuned and download our podcast segment.

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Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds with your host, Sam Stone. Joining me in studio today, Sean Noble, guest hosting for Chuck, who is off in the big blue yonder. Actually, he's in Florida, I think. But our next guest up today, Raina Paddocks. She is a candidate for Arizona State House District 5. You can follow her on X at Raina Paddocks. She has a fantastic, you know, her campaign is about modern takes on conservative issues, which I really love that branding and that title. So, I'm going to give you a little bit of a tour of her.

So, Raina, thank you so much for joining us. Welcome to the program.

Hey, thank you so much, Sam, for having me. Like you mentioned, I'm running for the Arizona State House. I'm super happy to be here. I was a write-in candidate. And after getting four or five times the amount of write-ins that I needed, I am now safely on the general election ballot. So you'll be seeing me on the ballot in the fall. Now, for folks who don't know Arizona, we have 30 districts. Each one is represented by one senator, two House members. And we have a lot of

So right now, District 5, are those seats Democrat? Are they Republican? For folks who just don't know or don't know Arizona, what is the challenge you're facing?

Yes. So both of those seats right now are inhabited by two Democrats. They were both appointed persons. And right now, just after the primary, the incumbent, Sarah Liguori, was voted in. And then a newcomer, Aaron Marquez, another Democrat who doesn't have name ID, which is great for us, for somebody who's coming in a Democrat district to come up against.

And so one of the I'm going to go into a little bit and ask you a little bit about your background because you come from a fantastic background. But one of the things that I think is happens a lot here in Arizona is the Democrats are far more organized at moving their candidates forward. And we end up kind of playing catch up. Are you the only we're going to be the only Republican or they're going to be two Republicans on that November ballot?

That's a great question. So I'm going to be the only Republican, but that is strategic. So the polling shows that the best chance that we have of getting a Republican in office, right, one is better than none. Getting a Republican in office in a D plus 12 area, we want to have a single shot Republican candidate. So that is what the GOP's plan based off of the polling was for myself and my candidacy. And that's the right thing.

Move, Sean. That's the right move. We've talked about this, but Democrats in Arizona are so strategic about knowing when and where to single shot a race. And the value to that is if the Republicans just go out and they put your name only, Raina, in LD5, and they don't vote for any of the other candidates on that ballot, you have basically doubled your chances to get in. And the Democrats are very strategic about doing it. I'm glad to see us finally playing catch up and playing that game.

Oh, yeah. You have to be strategic when you are outnumbered by persons who identify as Democrats versus Republicans. Now, if we were to get into the minutia of the persons who are actually identified as independent, well, we have a phenomenal chance of bringing home a victory in November. And I think that's where it actually is the opportunity because this is – so I live in this district, and Raina, I was proud to write you in and my wife wrote you in as well –

Thank you.

What I've seen from your campaign and the messaging is inclusion and bringing people together to solve problems. And I think that that's exactly the message that needs to be put out in this district.

Oh, yeah. I think many people can rally around. We want safer communities. We want our child literacy rates to no longer be at a three decade low. We want our kids to be safe in schools where, you know, sexually charged information is not being put in front of them. I think these are key topics that all of us can rally around. And instead of focusing on items that where where we where we can divide, focusing on things that

we all can agree on so we can get some things done that have been pushed to the wayside for far too long.

At least in the case of Sarah Liguori, I know that while she campaigns as a moderate, her voting record has not matched that at all, right? Right. Yeah. I don't know much about Marquez. I don't know. Is he – Sean, do you know if he's related to Edmund Marquez and that family? Oh, I don't know. That might be. I'm not sure. Which would make him tough, I mean, because that's a longtime political family here. But I don't know much about him. I do know Liguori.

I do know her voting record doesn't match the district. Exactly. And so how do you get that message out? Because one of the things that's happening here in Arizona, big time folks, is we are having money poured into these races on behalf of the Democrats from New York, from California, from Illinois. I mean, they are really spending huge, huge amounts of money targeting these local state races here.

And so you're up against candidates who are going to have more money than you, who are, you know, have that machine behind them. How do you counter that and get your message out? So I think the question you're kind of asking is how do we actually plan on winning? And I plan to employ a lot of strategies that are very common in the sales field. Right. I think what we've seen previously for Republican candidates in this district is the the

very poor tactic in sales called the spray and pray, where you send out your information to as many people as you can one time and cross your fingers and hope by some, you know, strike of God's hand you come in. But that is just not how the human psyche works. You need three to four minimum engagements per voter for them to, one, resonate with you, and two, to remember to vote you in. And so our goal, my goal,

over the course of the campaign for the next few months is to have five to seven touch points with each voters that looks like phone calls, mail, door knocking, et cetera, to ensure that for a smaller subsector voters, we're communicating with them more times instead of communicating with everybody one time. I think that makes total sense. Yeah, absolutely. I,

I would say the other part, too, in just seeing what I have of your campaign, I feel like some candidates in the past, and this is a problem, Sean, I think you and I both know, we recognize we have as a party at many levels.

We keep running races that seem designed to offend as many people as possible without losing. Or by losing. Yeah. I always tell people it's really easy to go over that line. You can offend, you know, 49.999% of the people, but it's really easy then to trip and offend 50.0001 and lose. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

Your campaign seems much more focused on a unifying message and a positive forward vision than that sort of approach.

Yes, my goal is not to offend people. If you are offended by my views, that is an unfortunate reality that people disagree, and that's all right, right? That's healthy discourse. But my goal in engaging in the discourse is not to offend you. My goal is to get things done that is for the benefit of all of us. And I can't do that if I go out the gates, you know, shooting you here and there with all of these things that I know are going to hurt your feelings when I know that there's actually 70 or 80 percent that we really agree on and we can make

Well, and I think that's exactly the approach that so many Republican candidates have gotten away from. And I think it's in part because there's so many districts that are very, very Republican, they can just throw the red meat on the floor and be as obnoxious as possible.

Not recognizing that, hey, that doesn't just affect the people who are hearing you in your district, but the people in other districts that are tighter. It's branding. Yeah, it's branding. And you're creating a problem for all Republicans. And so the fact that you're campaigning in this way, hopefully other Republicans will see that and say, hey, that's the way that we actually build this move. I mean, it's, you know, I love Ronald Reagan. Yeah.

And I know that we can't go backwards and there's a different time, but he did have the wherewithal to think through. I can be very committed to my ideals and values, but I also think that we can agree, just as you pointed out, 70, 80% of things. I mean, most Arizonans, most people in LD5 would agree on 70 or 80% of stuff. So if you can bring that together, I think that that's how you get a winning formula.

100%. And then just going back to Sarah Liguori, who I've met, she is wonderful. This is not a commentary on her as a person. She's a wonderful lady. I like Sarah personally. It's just her politics are way out there.

Yes, yes. Way, way, way out there. And this is the danger of us kind of, you know, just forfeiting these seats is that what we've seen is that Democrats have come in, used it as like a prop up to get to the next level and then just appointed back the person who we specifically didn't vote for. That doesn't represent the...

The ideology of the district, right? I mean, she voted against banning transgender surgeries for minors, voted against restricting transgender students' participation in sports. And the goal of that is not to make people feel like other, but it's to protect children, right? That's why these things are coming up. I've never heard anyone on the legislature.

object to the idea that we could create an open category, a trans category, but it's the idea of biological males competing against biological females. It just does not work. It's not sensible. The science does not work. You know, I have a younger brother. He's about seven years younger than me. And the last time that I could out...

outlift him or you know beat him in any sort of workout i believe he was 12 years old so i i am not disillusioned in any way that you know if i could just you know just muscle it out i would be able to beat you know a male of my similar stature anything that's just not the case biologically it's not true and if we care about especially specifically our daughters here in this district then we're going to care about protecting them from undue harm

And protecting their opportunity. They deserve a fair opportunity. Raina Paddocks, thank you so much for joining us today. How do folks follow you and support your campaign going forward? I'll be honest, folks. Yes. Arizona matters. It matters nationwide right now. And we may be it's very likely that one house seat, maybe this race is the difference between Democrats having total control of Arizona and

And turning it into a blue state permanently like they have Colorado or us being able to fight. Hold on. Fight back and bring the red back. So, Raina, how do they how do they back you up and help make that happen?

Yeah, so you can head to my website. It's really easy. Raina Paddocks dot com. R-E-I-N-A-P-A-T-O-C-S dot com. There will be a pop up on the website and you can get engaged there. It's just your name and email and someone will reach out to you and get you connected with what we're doing. But I completely agree of all places in the United States. Please do not let it be in a battleground state like Arizona where we let this election just pass us by.

Absolutely. Raina Paddocks, thank you so much for joining us, folks. You can follow her on X at Raina Paddocks. And that is, Sean, that is going to be a critical, critical race. Critical race coming forward. We really appreciate having her on there. I know this is a national program, so we're...

We're a little hesitant sometimes to bring on the local candidates because I start to question, does somebody in Florida, does somebody in San Diego, does somebody in Nebraska who's listening to this, Utah, do they care? The issues are very universal. Yep. First off, they're very universal. Secondly, folks, these local seats have way more impact than you think, and it's going to be national impact because –

I'll be a Sarah Liguori is the type of Democrat who could end up in a national office. Right. And get there, get there through a seat that she shouldn't represent, that she doesn't actually represent the values of that district. But because we're not competitive, because we don't raise the money, because we don't support our candidates nationally in local races the way Democrats do.

We're losing a lot of these seats. We're losing a lot of the bench and we're giving the other side a stronger bench. Exactly. This is the field. This is this is the farm system and the Democrats have mastered it. And so the Republicans across the country need to be invested in the farm system of building up good candidates. And you go to her ex, go to her Web site. You'll see she is a dynamic candidate that has future potential. Yes. National candidate. No question. No, absolutely. And again,

You know, one of the things that Democrats have done is to nationalize all these local races in a very concerted and concentrated fashion that gives them a huge advantage. Republicans need to start understanding that.

that maybe having a billion-dollar presidential candidate and a zero-dollar local house candidate is not as smart as having an $800 million presidential candidate and a $250,000 local house candidate. Because ultimately, long term, investing in those grassroots-level races changes everything. Democrats started doing that here, what was it, about 2012? Yep. Right? Yep.

Because they got their butts kicked in 2010. Yeah. I mean, we had super majority level support in the legislature. Right. We had huge numbers. And now it's one seat in both houses. Right. One. One. And the one in the House hinges on a woman who won a deep blue district in Yuma. Yeah. Right? Like, that's how tight it is. And a lot of that's coming from out-of-state money that's driving it, a lot of it.

We need folks, if you can go on there and donate $5, $10 to candidates like this, boy, that makes a difference. Exactly. All right. So moving on, we've got our usual feature. Kylie Kipper is back. Kylie's Corner. Kylie, tell us who died. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry I wasn't here last week. People were probably missing me. Look, we can't be without our murder and mayhem update. That's right. No, we can't. We can't. And this week, I want to talk about the Robert Tellis scandal.

Trial that began. He is the Democrat County, Clark County public administrator who's being accused of stabbing Jeff to death. He's the report, the Las Vegas reporter. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually found this very interesting. The trial has been so delayed because of the review journal was actually in a legal battle with the Supreme Court to protect confidential sources that were in Jeff's phone and computer at the time of this trial.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. So Robert is being accused of stabbing him to death. And prosecutors believe the motive was because Robert or sorry, Jeff had written an article about Robert during his county during his race, which he ended up losing the primary because of this article. And supposedly Jeff was writing another article that was about to come out when he was murdered. And so we don't know what this next article was, but it was about

these inappropriate relationships he was having with employees. So prosecutors have on surveillance footage. More violence comes out of that line. Inappropriate relationships with. With, yes. And then murder. Murder, yeah.

So prosecutors are claiming that he dressed up in a neon orange, looks like a work working jacket, and then a gardener's hat hit on the side of his yard. And then when he got home, stabbed him to death, he's caught. Well, someone's caught on footage leaving in neon orange, this large gardener hat getting in this maroon SUV. He's caught on camera multiple times. Um,

They found the Gardner hat and the shoes at Teller's house at the time of the arrest. And they also found DNA evidence under his fingernail or under Jeff's fingernails of Robert's. And also a review journal saw Robert cleaning this maroon SUV just a few days after the murder. But...

Robert and his defense attorney are coming out and saying that he's being framed. He's going the Karen Reade route. He's claiming he's being framed. He's planning on testifying. His defense attorney supposedly is saying that during his...

When they brought him in to arrest him originally, that that evidence was destroyed and the body cam footage is destroyed. We haven't gotten to that part of the trial yet, so I'm not sure if that's actually true. This is just what he claimed in the opening statement. He also claimed that the hat and shoes were planted in

Robert's house that they weren't actually his. Did he claim that the moon landing was filmed in a Hollywood studio? I wouldn't be surprised if he did. Oh my gosh. So I'm actually very intrigued to see where this goes. I did go down a Twitter rabbit hole, you know, the Reddit rabbit hole to see if there was any traction of this framing, but no one seems to believe him that much.

You know, he's not getting this Karen Reed backing. That is not a terribly believable defense. No. No. That would be on camera. I'm surprised he's going to testify. He used to be a lawyer as well. So I don't know if maybe they might know some tips and tricks to get out of it. And it is, and I don't know, people, I mean, I didn't really pay attention to this kind of thing, but it is very, very rare that

For a murder suspect. You basically – You ever go under it. No attorney wants a murder suspect client to ever take the stand. Yeah. I mean, if you say anything other than fifth, fifth, fifth, like your attorney is going to look at you and go, you're a moron. Yeah. Yeah. And his attorney in the opening statement says he's planning on testifying. Yeah.

Wow. That is wild. So this is a twist. Yeah. We're going to stay on top of this one, I guess, like the Karen Reid story. We're only supposed to be a two-week trial. You're not done talking about this. How long was the Karen Reid trial supposed to last?

That one was supposed to be six weeks, and it was six weeks. Okay. Yeah. It was long. I didn't realize they knew ahead of time it was going to be that long. I think they base it on the amount of evidence and the amount of witnesses you have. Look, all I know about courts is the last time I went for jury duty, they said, we'll get you situated in half an hour. And nine and a half hours later, I'm still sitting on that damn uncomfortable wooden bench. So...

exactly so so i don't know i'm a bad judge of this i guess yeah me too i don't know i'll keep you posted hopefully by next friday we have this answer because that would be two weeks so okay good well all right from from murder and mayhem uh we are moving on kindly thank you so much jenna is this a sunshine do we need to play the music

We can play the music. Okay, play. Jeremy, bring the sunshine, baby. Yeah, so I have a spot from... I've been thinking about change a lot recently because August always feels like a time of change. And it's not...

Yeah, I don't know if it's... Like, I would say it's fall air, but we don't have that. I was going to say, in Arizona, August is just a time of sweating. Yeah. Fall air is... So you know an election has taken place when the air becomes crisp. Right. It's like, oh, it's over. I can breathe. Look, sometime right after the election is when we go back to having hot and cold water. Right. Exactly. Yeah, so I think...

But there still feels like a sense of change. So as we go into that, I was looking at a couple different articles. And I remember this speech by Admiral McRaven at UT Austin back in 2014 at their commencement. And so I just thought that's something that I've been looking at recently. It's something I think everybody should be reminded of and know about. So this speech turned into a short book that you'll probably see at a lot of different places called Make Your Bed.

And it's 10 things that you can do basically to change the world. So I'm just going to run through them really quickly, but you should really check it out and watch the video. It's very short.

But so his first piece of advice is to make your bed, which I'm getting better at. Can I say I have not done that once in my entire life? Is that right? I have never once made my bed. Never made your bed. I don't do sheets. I just do the comforter over the top, and I just straight that out, and we're good to go. Okay. All right. Well, that's good. That's good. I do the typical girl thing where I have like 15 pillows. I've never once actually made a bed.

48 years old, I have not done that. That's amazing.

Well, the SEALs have to do – like I was chatting – my brother's a naval officer, and he was talking about how they have to square the corner of the pillow that you put your head on. Everything has to be exact, yeah. Yeah, everything has to be exact. So he says that even though it's a simple, mundane task, it's really important because you start – it's not necessarily just about making the bed, but starting your day off with a small win, like –

makes you more likely to make more wins and then if at the end of the day you haven't made any more additional wins that day like at least you made your bed and i get i get the point and and i do things in the morning that are productive right out of the gate you drink your coffee that's a win hey look it's really good coffee i'm you know look here's the thing folks if you haven't already death wish coffee

Death Wish Coffee. Death Wish Coffee. Yeah. I'll have to try it out. They're Valhalla, Java, Odin, Force Blend. Okay. There's a reason that I'm bright and chipper by 5.15 and I stay bright and chipper through at least mid-afternoon. It's because it has more caffeine than any 10 cups of coffee you could ever drink. It's fantastic. There you go.

All right. So make your bed. Make your bed. I'm good at interrupting, Jenna. Yeah. I love it, though. I need, I don't know. The Valhalla coffee sounds like a, it sounds. Oh, it's good. It's good. It'll get you going.

So, um, make your bed, have start your day on a win. Um, the second piece of advice is find someone to help you help you paddle. When you're going in the waves out in San Diego, you have to get across like, you know, eight foot, 10 foot, uh, high surf. You can't get through it unless other people are helping you. And if you get sick and like, and someone else needs to step in, you know, like that's, that's how it works. And you, you just keep moving forward.

So his third piece of advice is measure a person by the size of their heart, not by the size of their flippers. And this is because they have boat crews. That was not flippers in its original incantation in the Navy. It was not. The word was not flippers.

Okay. This is the Navy. It's a podcast segment. Let's be honest here. Okay, go ahead. So, but the, basically he says that one of the boat crews that won in his SEAL class back in, I think it was 1977. They, the, like the fastest boat crew was a, they're all competing. All these different boats was the shortest group of guys. And they were the ones who had the most drive. Everyone was giving them crap for it, for being short. And they, they were the ones who ended up winning. Yeah.

His fourth piece of advice is get over being a sugar cookie and move forward. So this is in reference to uniform inspection. Basically, you have to be very, very particular with the little things, just like making your bed in the Navy. And if you don't do super well, you have to go jump into the ocean, swim around, and then roll in the dirt and get covered in sand. So that's being a sugar cookie.

And then his fifth is don't be afraid of the circus. Failure will make you stronger. And you should really check out this video and listen to the whole thing if you haven't already. The sixth is dare greatly slide down the obstacle headfirst. Sometimes like the only way to get through something is to go in headfirst. Part of the training is you have to go down a rope first.

um very quickly and um the the one guy in his class decided to do it headfirst and he was able to double or like cut the amount of time that he got down the rope in half because he was willing to do that um don't back down from the sharks is his seventh one um you the third section of seal training is out off of um one of the islands out there i forget i forget what it's called um but you uh

shark infested waters and they give everyone advice. They say, oh, well, we can't remember anyone being attacked by a shark. But you have to, but if you do approach a shark, you just, you have to stay still. You can't swim away. Punch him in the nose. Punch him in the nose. That's actually diver advice for a shark coming at you. That's right. Yeah. Divert them, I think, or something like that.

And then Rise to the Occasion is the eighth one. His ninth is Start Singing When You're Up to Your Neck in Mud at the end of Hell Week, which is like

one of the most intense parts of the first phase of SEAL training. You are out in the mud flats off Tijuana, sitting in the mud basically overnight. And at the end, you know, you can leave. This is voluntary that people. Yeah, you can you can ring out any time. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so the instructors like he said, like,

They know this. So they're saying, oh, come get chicken soup by the fire. You don't have to sit in the mud all night. Come hang out with us. And all you need is for five... They were saying that all you need is for five people to quit during that evening in the mud flats in order to...

get everybody out of the water. Once five people quit, everyone else is good to go. Yeah. But I guess when he did it, one guy started singing and everybody else started singing. They inspired hope in each other and they stayed the night and they were okay. He said at the end he could see the instructors were happy because they are rooting for these guys at the end of the day. And then his tenth is never ever ring the bell. Ringing the bell

is you can it's by choice you can ring the bell and leave the program at any point you can fail out of it they can kick you out of it yeah right also but saying don't give up yeah yeah he's saying don't give up so yeah but so just nice yeah those are fan those are fantastic pieces of advice also

Admiral McRaven, one of the greatest names for a warrior in history. Right. I mean, let's just, you know. And for a hot second, there was rumors that he might have been Kamala's VP pick.

He would certainly be a better VP pick than Tim Walz. 100 percent. And thank goodness he didn't do it. Right. No, I look, I'm thanking my lucky stars for Tim Walz. Yeah, I am thanking my lucky stars that the Hamas wing of the Democratic Party had veto power over who Kamala Harris picked to serve nominee because Tim Walz is a train wreck.

I don't care what the media is saying about the guy. He's a train wreck. He's a train wreck. That'll come out. All right. We could go on on this for a while, but we are at the end of this podcast. Thank you so much for joining us, folks. Remember to tune in every week and download and subscribe. Substack, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to the darn thing. We have a whole bunch of you. We know. We know. We send you the emails. We track them. We know you're getting our podcast.

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