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The Sirens

2024/8/25
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Tristan Hughes: 本期节目探讨了塞壬形象的演变,从古代希腊到中世纪教会再到现代,以及塞壬与其他神话生物的联系。 Sarah Clegg: 古代希腊的塞壬并非性感的,而是长着鸟的身躯,居住在水边而非水中,她们的歌声并非为了诱惑,而是为了传达知识。塞壬与冥后珀耳塞福涅有关,有时会被视为引渡亡灵的积极存在。 中世纪教会的资料中,塞壬的形象变得极度性感,通常赤身裸体或半裸,并具有鱼尾,她们会用诱人的歌声吸引男人,然后吃掉他们。塞壬形象的转变,与拉弥亚形象的融合有关。拉弥亚是古代希腊神话中一种与蛇相关的怪物,会诱惑并吃掉靠近她的水手。拉弥亚与美人鱼形象的相似性,促成了塞壬形象的转变。 莉莉丝、拉弥亚和塞壬的形象在演变过程中相互影响。晚期古代的圣经译本中,拉弥亚、塞壬和莉莉丝的称呼常常混用。中世纪教会对性的态度,特别是对男性贞洁的强调,对塞壬形象的转变产生了影响。塞壬的形象出现在中世纪的兽谱和教堂建筑中。 维多利亚时期,拉弥亚的形象重新出现,与塞壬、美人鱼和莉莉丝的形象融合在一起。维多利亚时期对女性的刻板印象,也影响了塞壬的形象。 现代对塞壬的解读,大多将其与美人鱼等同起来,但仍保留着危险和诱惑的意味。 Sarah Clegg: 塞壬形象的演变,与拉弥亚、莉莉丝等其他神话生物的形象融合密切相关。中世纪教会对性的态度,特别是对男性贞洁的强调,对塞壬形象的转变产生了重要影响。在晚期古代和中世纪,塞壬、拉弥亚和莉莉丝的名称常常混用,它们的形象也逐渐融合,最终演变成我们今天所熟知的性感的、危险的女性形象。 维多利亚时期,艺术家们对塞壬的描绘,进一步强化了其性感和危险的形象。现代的塞壬形象,通常与美人鱼形象重合,但其危险和诱惑的属性依然存在。 值得注意的是,塞壬的形象在不同时期、不同文化中存在差异,其演变过程反映了社会文化观念的变化。

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The Sirens of Ancient Greece were not the sexy maidens often depicted in modern times. They were bird-women linked to Persephone, Queen of the Underworld, and known for their enchanting songs that promised knowledge, not seduction.
  • Sirens were bird-women, not mermaids.
  • Their songs offered knowledge, not seduction.
  • They were linked to Persephone and the underworld.
  • They guided souls through the underworld.

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The word 'Sirens' conjures up many images, possibly of beautiful mermaid-like creatures luring sailors to their watery deaths. These ancient Greek mythical creatures, linked to the Queen of the Underworld Persephone, feature in well known myths such as Jason and the Argonauts and Homer’s story of Odysseus - *The Odyssey. *But their popular modern portrayal as 'sexy maidens' does not originate from ancient Greece, that is a much later invention. 

Sarah Clegg joins Tristan Hughes to discuss the story of the Sirens and how their legacy is intertwined with a number of other mythical creatures such as nymphs, the Mesopotamian demoness Lilith and, of course mermaids.

Listen to Tristan and Sarah Clegg's previous episode on Lillith here: https://podfollow.com/the-ancients/episode/83e3167b27baefea4d862da99ce26425ba43e291/view

Presented by Tristan Hughes. Edited by Aidan Lonergan. The producer is Joseph Knight, the senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.

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