Status: Untraced - E9: Father Is One
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When I stumbled upon an old box full of V H. S. Tapes and police reports, I didn't expect uncover connections to several unsolved murders near my hometown a bit, investigating how these murders could be connected to a group called the lords of death. Check out this clip from the show.

So tied at two on his ARM. That was just letters. I said, L O D.

And I ask mike what L O D stood for. And I was told a stood for lords of death. So ask, you know, for the meaning behind IT.

And only a couple people had the tattoo, apparently. And in order to get the tattoo, you had to take someone soul as a murder. Someone is what I was told, but never really clicked with me, that I was like they were really the lords of death.

I could just see them being like a cool were the lords of death. And that really meaning nothing, is how I looked at IT. But I was wrong and meant a lot.

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We used to travel together, we used to eat together, everything which we do in Normal life, we used to together. What happened to him? We don't know.

The roof algoma was last seen heading to q ganga on november nine, twenty twenty one, a eleven days before arrival in india. Originally, his family wasn't interested in speaking with us, but his older brother abb shake had a change of mind. The italy, what his reason was for a going up to do the track.

there is no reason just travel to kinga. For tourists .

feeling a lack of response, uncles watched their own investigation in the verty.

the police and rescue teams, they are keeping the eye ness. Many things happened with us, which was very strange. There is something fish on the track of cara order in the poverty vali something people afraid of.

What do you think that is?

I am definitely sure my brother's was kidnapped and murdered, but I can't prove IT.

There is more oba wishes he could say, but he's wary. Tourism is the lifeblood of the poverty, and speaking ill of vit could put a target on his back. There is, however, one person for whom openly expresses corkin objects. Family hired the searching and rescue to look for the roof and have since dropped all ties to the man.

He is the right hand of the drug mafia. He know everything, every area, every gap, everywhere in the part was the value. But Frankly, say. Not a good person.

Emily luxton, and this is data untraced. Episode nine, father is one.

所以 everybody。 Go, everybody, please.

Deckt out military boots in a four camel jump suit. Corkin commands imposing presence. He controls the room, the one filled with six other guys. I wasn't expecting to be here.

Sorry for that. I'm saying to do everybody will sizes because, sir, have to come from, we don't know each other, but they came here. They want to know about Justin.

A lot has been said about the man before me. I'm here to find out of the murder of accusations against him. Hold any validity. But first I just wanted know some basics. Who is cork on, really?

And how did you get into certain rescue?

I would never, but not so good. So went to america, went to to the born, to a low class .

family in the poverty valley. Coron explains that he began working as a porter in millner's, the ancient village known for producing the world's best to cheese and to be associated with mafias through various gigs. He eventually launched his business in late nineties, which, as he boss'll ly claims, was the first certain rescue service of its kind.

More than six hundred. And mostly this is the actually .

team book.

So we are the first we can say the father is one, understand?

sure. Yeah.

father is one. If the David father good, if they will. 不知道 人家 的 时候。

Corkin essentially just claimed there's a certain in rescue hierocles y and he's at the top father is one is .

another thing to say and .

leaves me wondering if this is pride talking or glimpse into something more threatening? What's riling this man's control in trying to get to the bottom of IT? I digg into this process.

How many cases have you done? They do you remember?

One, a hundred.

And how many of those cases have you been able to find? People .

arrive .

all the most, mostly live. But if we don't find them to three days is very difficult to find. If somebody get missing, we set for one to three days maximum M I think. But still, the family, they force us to know, look more, look more, so we can look one week, but more than one week, we will finally say, but we cannot do because they know that we don't find.

I'll repeat his words because it's alarming. We can search for one to three days maximum. I think still the family, they forces to know, look more, look more.

So we can look one week, but more than one week, even families stay. But we cannot do because we know that we don't find. How many families clean the hope have been met with this bleak prag. nani. Sm, I ask if this has been an approach with the roof alger war, the most recent case for .

which he offered his services. But but I get an information in twill .

means .

is not anymore sorry to say this and still I because of family, because I don't want to hearts of family and family members that question me, please. You are the person, you are ever gold, you are this and dead. This is not, I am saying this, but if they are not giving right information, how can I find him?

Orkan claims he initiated search efforts, but that his work went unpaid.

If they really love their brother ruba about why they don't pay the money, if they can't, please tell us they going to be.

I asked about, if without was true, did he charge you for searching for him?

He, he, he did not give him a bill whatever he took from us. He took in rash. So we gave him what he demand.

I bring .

this up to corkin, and he correct himself, saying he did receive five hundred rupees, which is around six U. S. dollars.

So what do you what do you think happened to him? Uh.

as well as specifics .

of what do you think happened to do IT was he rob?

Look, I don't know. I can say anything, something for person.

Labelling a missing soul is crazy, is pretty cold. I don't know if corkins this open with his clients, but if so, it's no wonder rob's family ggt exhaustion and misery accused him of trading hope for profit. They claim to build for searches that appeared nothing more than smoking mirrors. And i've also heard this from another family who accused him of the same done, bruno .

mushing gues. So this is what peared told me. He told me that he thought that you were going around places and just sending him photos, and you weren't searching. What's the response to .

that if you don't mind? Device, yeah, please. You are first senior. Yeah, yeah. If you come here, you must know where to go, where to step, to whom you trust and who you're talking. If somebody.

Calling you this and that if you know personally, you can say something 是 you don't know you personally， but is my life, my life, I make my rules, I don't fucking care about the people think is good person. No good part is that why is my life? I'm enjoying my life.

That's most important. It's not their problem because they are just jealous. And the shortcut thing I told you father .

is one I guess I I hear I hear we are saying. But from what i'm hearing from b there, he thinks that you are just charging him but not doing anything. I'd like to understand why .

some people think that me but after the 不 to take this mission to do you and him and him and him。 So essentially .

your response to you weren't doing anything was that you were. But then they contacted other people and you weren't able to complete your job.

No.

that's what I I don't know if I .

just give her kind of, but honestly, I don't think that matters. It's still suspiciously convenient for him to claim incapacity to fulfiller contracts when all he's dedicating is a mere three days of effort at best. And if that's his motors barrand, I IT doesn't sound like he's fully .

transparent about IT.

I mentioned this three day bit to p opto mochi gue and his friend to mars and asked when they hired corkin if he was ever explained them.

give you any sort of expectations, and specifically, did he say he was only going to look for three days when .

you first fired? Him corkin .

could be telling .

me the truth or this could all be a politicians act. So as he responds, i'm trying to read between the lines i'm assessing what makes him both for what irritate him and what his reactions reveal and trying to gather as much of a basin of who cork n is because I need some idea of how he'll react when I ask if his team is murdering people.

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The worker, I know that how to investigate, I watch .

core kn as he pours himself scotch. It's not as first, and it's becoming harder to understand him.

Okay, Justin study, you want to know, you want some deep glue .

and absolutely.

People the local not going to have make to i'm torn .

between ending the conversation or pressing on the man before me, confidently wearing his movie also like personality, still has much to answer for, but questioning him .

in the state doesn't feel right. Reluctantly.

I choose to step away, and later when he's sober, I call him launching straightened to the questions that demand answers.

First and foremost s do you have technical training in mountain rescue?

He just said, I do checking and I turned the best water .

mountains as there have been a time when somebody else performed the physical rescue and and you took credit for IT.

Um I can know this. Okay.

you've never done that. I can that .

what if myself is there on the mission? I'm not saying that OK, i'm every mission i'm there. So I don't take any credit if somebody say I take the credits not like that, whatever I don't know.

They wants to say that I take the credit, where I take the credit. You know, this is that one teamwork I told you had always, the father is always in the problem, because more children is in the problem. So I am the main father. Father is one. That's why this table is coming.

giving cork on the benefit of the doubt I pose if these rumors can stem from his old protegees people who would benefit to smear him.

But in this, a rescue is unless to working, and we need to trust and believe each other out .

of all these people that you've trained, all of these students, have you ever had an issue with a student?

Uh, no, some some of these boys, they work just one or two days with me, so I don't even give them defies .

what what happened on those, on those times, they just didn't follow your roles or what was IT.

I tell you, I had not taken even one rupee on a when corkran is .

referring to the administration, does the local government body who sometimes assigned cases to rescue teams?

I'm not taking a money from addition. And these boys, how much money they have taken from administration .

and how much money they have to sorry.

I think I don't know who about, but i'm singing on the facebook. Sometimes some boys blaming their administration not getting a big bigger, not getting money and this and that, right? They blaming to the admiration.

If they see their good work, they will give them everything. Why they go behind the me, they go ahead, tell them, don't go back, go head, go in your avoid. Focus on your avoid. Don't focus on.

well, less about them. Because to be honestly to feel like you have answer that now more questions directly, directly to you in your team. Has there ever been an instance .

when you found a .

body and you haven't reported IT? I'm i'm saying to you, I am not alone. You telling is not working alone. Why you blame me, me to the action back to I to live to with .

every question I ask. IT just sounds like cork n is falling. Truly, I appreciate that he's talking with me and that IT actually sounds like he's being open. But i'm a little confused by his words because I would understand if he is intent to actually help people, I would understand if he's made mistakes and takes accountability for them, and I would get IT if he feels like he's been wronged and pain IT as a villain for his failures. But when I explained to corkin that people are saying he's a conman, that he doesn't actually conduct professional searches, and that some people have gone as far as saying his team heights, bodies drag out searches for a bigger pay, what does he do? He points blame .

at the innocent fighting in between themselves. So i'm not a god. So i'm not a god that, okay, I know where is the body and I go and to get IT, okay, they are the people.

They are coming to me, saying to me that how much money you want, you want. This is not a money story I told. Understand these problems.

There are crazy people. I tell you. You Better to discuss about this kind of thing with the S B station.

Cork n stands that these accusations stem from disgruntled families. There is some truth to that, but the way he chooses to address IT feels heartless. This is searching, rescue your clients or families of missing persons.

It's obvious that in order to do this job responsibly, IT requires patients and compassion. And I think he knows that. But when I asked him to further explain his brain statements, he gets annoyed.

said, said, why did you like, like, they have to trust me if they are not testing. I can't work with these people, so i'm not going to them. They are coming back again and again to me.

Their family memories is question to me. The mother is calling to me, sister is calling to me, they are relating who not? Uncle is crying on the t what do?

Or isn't I have one last rumour that I need .

to ask you about. So someone told me that they believe that you are people on your team are making tourists disappear to create more business. What what do you have to say about that?

I don't know if it's possible, just selling me in the name of this guide who so I can or tell them to to call to me and they even record the calling and send to you what is the problem, what they want for me um I tell you if someone ask for help and the person i'm not looking for dead body and this is not a wide job for, look for the everybody. My work is save lives so I don't care others. I know myself.

那 真的。

Corkin ends the conversation that day, but will continue to have talks.

You're saying you can look for one to three days maximum, specifically going back to the roof, then he went missing, like on the ninth and the family you want to twelve. That's a three day difference already. Did you tell them that because of your experience that you no longer felt he was alive?

I can't say anything about that most important thing, they go alone, which is not good. Anything can happen. A one person.

yeah, do have you? Have you ever told like a family that you believe it's impossible to find someone .

this is difficult to find, but still the family they want that I do something if I give up or I am the beginning, I say no, I cannot do distance. Their energy goes down if I say no yeah it's because what I do actually .

think he means, well.

he's proud of his career and .

what I come to believe is that he's not a is a poor communicator.

The thing i'm kind of coming back to is that initial thing that you told me. So you do look longer than three days sometimes.

Yes, yes, yes, I do.

But you don't really think that you're probably gonna find anything after three days.

It's difficult but possible to find any belonging or something. But after that are families also, they are not satisfied. They they know they are they are alive. Yeah, it's very difficult.

I don't have evidence that he's guilty y fraud, but his whole ideology of father is one. And to imply that other teams successes are also his success, I think it's just a sign of north ism.

So essentially you kind of see yourself is like a father figure, like the leader.

Uh, of course i'm that's what i'm saying that if I tests someone, someone tests me, then we can work together.

What I am certain love, based on his own words, is that he's a man of self interest. Business first, people second.

when I asked you about the rumors about you, you thought I could be families that we're saying these malicious things, and then you said that you thought that they were crazy. Just want them to be clear, do you think that they're crazy?

I'm not really crazy, but you know there is too much stress is kind of what? And you know where somebody's family member missing, how many things they have in their mind, how many questions they they to ask, they have to think in every angle. They are free to think that that so I follow them, but I cannot see them, is difficult to find. They can easily understand that if we don't find one day, two day, three days, one week, two weeks, but we look for.

I get IT. This job is tough, especially in a remote valley in the middle of the heel layers. He has about a point there.

But still, IT doesn't minimize the thorough fell by brunos and rose family. They deserve answers. Well.

thank you. I appreciate you.

Thank you. And when you coming next time india come, most welcome.

Given what we've learned, I think just an Alexander search party made the right choice in refusing cork on services. He's not a CoOperate. He's not a lead.

He's just a guy in the rescue business who sounds like he's checked out. But clearing this thread puts us back on Justin's case with little progress. There are still the identities of two suspicious figures the couple who descended the mountain with just in moments before he disappeared that remain unknown. It's time to find out who they are.

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Calling on to a foreign property a Young indian man tiamat they greet us.

As they go, liam, nice to meet you. Yeah.

emotions for us to sit on all benches around a crackling fire.

Up to this case, I very decided .

sometime .

hama rush .

put speaks softly, his eyes lost in the flames. Not long ago, he accepted my facebook friend request and agreed to meet, or he says, justice s case home. He's open to answering some questions.

During our .

investigation, we heard a tale suggesting that in addition to the barber in the porter, Justin came down the mountain with a couple, a guy and girl. We were told the guy was Normal patel, except Normal patel has maintained a different story, insisting he crossed past with Justin on the mountain, so which is true. There's evidence that are more did hike with a group to mont like that year.

So was this the group who passed Justin? The other hydro in the photo are the only ones who would know. And harsh is one of .

them who always.

City five people from berlin.

City.

how long were you guys in her ganga before the night.

night.

night?

R step continues to speak with hamas and hindi and ask if he ever met Justin.

He speaks that the only conversation that they had the justice was been across each other. Ah our .

first confirmation this hiking .

group did .

cross pass with Justin.

They didn't .

go .

with .

him.

Before they departed, camera says they took the photos with Justin.

This is the only thing that related with me. And just in is just a picture that we had when we SAT that there for five minutes. Mal knew justice before I said where exactly? He said no idea about that because we never asked him how you know him and how you met him .

before with you.

Our second confirmation or more, patel was telling the truth.

did your mom ever separate from the group just to go take photos for a little while or anything that day?

It's not feasible to stop for these two guys, and then the whole group is waiting so that they have to be in the group all the time. OK the .

was there anybody else that you passed along the truck around .

that time that you thought was where anybody only just.

I believe him rush beyond his willingness to, he was the higher guide for this trip. So these weren't his friends who'd have a motive to protect, but his insight also solidifies a gap in the case. The couple remains a mystery, and improving the Normal claim raises questions about the entire story's credibility.

Does this couple exist at all? All we've been told is that it's a guy and a girl who are in kr ganga for a month interacted with Justin, and we're never seen again. Our search now points to the path on explored the trail to kagan a in monti lake, and just as we set our sites on the newsweek from the local police station.

A couple on the unknown guys, they try to cook for a knife.

Police have just learned of a knife point robbery that took place earlier this month. The victims did not immediately report the incident, but IT said to have occurred mere days before the of algal disappeared. Red.

there's a rumor that this couple was robed for six thousand rupees at nine point. Yeah, four guys by four guys on the way. Two car anger. If you doing this q .

anger truck, yeah.

would IT be beneficial to have alex and may walk slightly ahead of you guys. See if we can catch these guys that we should buy. Them what stand? I don't want to understand there.

but I think we have .

to live that.

Being among the few americans here, we already draw attention so to appear like lan hikers and beat some theeves. It's not that that would be easy IT would be stupid and dangerous.

Did whether any reports of what these four guys look like?

Not unless ah they don't make in that fire .

is not IT won't got IT like to do don't through .

is also missing.

So we have saying that like yeah the same thing might not .

happen with truth.

You're putting yourself in a position just get stabbed there .

up the Cliff.

I mean, let's let's figure out a way for this to be safe. But I think that, that that's what we do. I think we should be A.

Back at the hotel, I continue to push the idea.

I think we should try to see if somebody comes out. I really do. As thinking, worst case scenario, i'll just line down the Cliff. I can manage to hang on someone, but I take down, I ve just spent anything .

over being stand.

I think.

do I T2。

We go. three.

Before the crack of dawn, we crammed into a rusty jeep heared up for a three day expedition into the unknown. Leaving through the mountain roads, we soon park a top, a concrete, damn the trailhead to kill ganger.

Yeah.

and so we begin the hike. For the most part, the trailer is well paved a their path that snakes through lush pines and firms with the poverty river flowing alongside IT, full of power and fury, even though each step brings us higher into the mountain range, there is many makeshift cafe along root selling snacks, I, T and walking staff.

Snowcat gray mountains tire valley is little up .

as planned. I pick up my pace and walk ahead of the group on the look out for danger. The trail is heavily traffic by shepherds, shop owners and indian tourists. At one point, i'm stopped by some hikers who asked to take a photo.

Yeah, take a healthy let's do IT. And absolutely .

talking to myself thought is not far from my mind that not everyone has been met with the same friendless ss.

But notice they know out of the trail. Somebody could easily be hind and up here and jump button unscared.

I soon reached the base of a rocky staircase. When the team catches up, we all judge to the top, emerging from the forest into enormous open passion.

Welcome to 开 两个。 See the steam rising up there. 非常。 了不起。

Tigana is like a war camp out of a medium or movie. Smoke rises from hundreds of military style tents, horses graze along tiny streams and the giant snow peaks, cash shadows over at all. ExpLoring the grounds, we discovered the heart springs at the bed of the mountain. I ditch my shoes on ice iraq and did in for much needed soap. It's then that a White bearded man slipped silently into .

the water eight .

years long.

K, and I attempt to strike a conversation with him.

I don't. Where are you from? I feel like everybody else is, i'm assuming, is from. India here.

what do you move from the.

Russia.

he closes his eyes, saying no more so we leave him in peace. As the sun dips behind the rugged peaks, I feel IT a magnetic pool whispering to stay. IT was only five years ago that Justin was hearing k ganga soaking in these very same waters, reflecting on a desire to heal and fanatic zing about a life of freedom.

He set out from the camp to head to the mountains peak monti lake and rode to the world that he would return. I started being like, I think my friend is dead. Other people were still saying.

I think he's not just like that he died.

I feel like he over estimated his capacity sometimes .

and this is very powerful and just was flying .

through IT I to tell you, he was a show man saying .

there's not a chance .

is he was making IT seem like that was gonna .

be his last.

He was a team effort. IT was broke of them. That was a team thing.

But haven't you ever had that thought of? Just what if I can just start over what if you actually did IT? He said, yeah, you truly don't see me for like five years.

Everyone asked what happened, and i've been struggling to make sense of IT all until suddenly it's clear.

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