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When I stumbled upon an old box full of V H. S. Tapes and police reports, I didn't expect uncover connections to several unsolved murders near my hometown a bit, investigating how these murders could be connected to a group called the lords of death. Check out this clip from the show.

So tied at two on his ARM. That was just letters. I said, L O D.

And I ask mike what L O D stood for. And I was told a stood for lords of death. So ask, you know, for the meaning behind IT.

And only a couple people had the tattoo, apparently. And in order to get the tattoo, you had to take someone soul as a murder. Someone is what I was told, but never really clicked with me, that I was like they were really the lords of death.

I could just see them being like a cool were the lords of death. And that really meaning nothing, is how I looked at IT. But I was wrong and meant a lot.

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Thank you so much listening.

Give any suggestions for people I should speak with about .

what happened to IT? Well, we have a former employee that left her name is Christine square. SHE was the one there, saw him closely. SHE, since there was something wrong with him.

do did you tell you that?

No.

really.

really.

I talked to her for a long time. He said he was perfectly Normal.

When did he tell you that?

He said that something was wrong .

as soon as he disappeared.

You say any more about that?

What SHE told me? They went up funny night.

The bar, 嗯。

he came down to the reach saturday afternoon. He said he seemed different. SHE told me SHE got a sense of something was wrong.

What should tell this? I don't know. It's just what I had made, the conversations about her.

I warned him, Joseph, I know you wanted be friends with her. You tell me there's nothing more but friendship. You been in up, played the game because he will fall hot. He said, no, she's just my good friend, said they don't player.

Do that. Do 哒哒。

Andy clam sr. Was higher by Joseph family in the summer of two thousand sixteen to investigate his disappearance.

Joseph met Christine at the ome court where he worked. He left the court, but they remained friends and would socialize frequently. IT was a little monkey to me about whether or not Joseph and Christine had a relationship at one time.

He conducted over a dozen interviews, starting with some of jose's coworkers.

Are you aware of any women the Joseph been involved with? The no even was just a cash one .

night thing I suspected he was involved with Christine, but that was just a suspicion, something going on between those two. This then too much time together.

Multiple people have speculated Joseph Christine had some sort of romantic relationship, at least at one point in time.

They may have been involved at one time. IT sounded like they probably did, but they were no longer involved. IT switched to just being close friends. They socialized frequently.

Andy ask cristine herself about her relationship with Joseph.

So will you just whatever of in a romantic relationship?

No, we were just friends.

Do you member just have .

ever talk about anyone that use them in problems with a known he .

never said anything, but I don't he's not. I don't think he is a type of person to be, have some to beat mad at him because he would, if there was an issue, he would ask him about IT. I don't think he was at the person to have anybody mad at him.

What are you good instincts about what you think happened to him?

I don't know. I mean. Like and still have hope that he's somewhere and I just don't want I just have a feeling that he is somewhere.

He's got to be somewhere because he can't just up and leave. And like like. You haven't given up, but I have lost hope. Think about him every day and keep wondering if today, today that somebody will call me and tell, tell me that is found or something, but I don't know.

Joseph last communications on his cell phone leading up to his disappearance, or a crucial piece of evidence. In this case, we have a cell phone records, but sprint was unable to provide the contents of his phones, text messages, all we can see all the times in the phone numbers. There are numerous text back and forth between Joseph and Christine, friday and saturday, leading all the way up to the moment he drops off the grid, because josef cell phone is also missing along with him, or only hope in finding out what he micky's an were talking about in those final moments is if Christine provided those messages herself. But the day after Joseph and missing, Christine completely restored her iphone.

My brother had picked up my phone. I was in one of the races he was wanting to record IT. So he flipped up and took a picture, recorded IT or something.

And then my brother is a jack as who likes to fuck with things. And so he punched in my password and disabled my phone inside. I had been trained my passwords that I thought I changed IT to.

And by the time I got to trying to get IT, IT would lock me out in an hour. Then I filings that connect itunes. IT was making me wait an hour, wait sixty minutes. You wait this long.

All the versions of the story that Christine told police, the first private investigator, and andy glazer are so damn convoluted, her brother wanted to film something on her phone so die, because you can do that without unlocking IT. And does he pass her phone to her brother? If so, why not just unlucky for him, regardless of why or how Christian phone, this was extremely detrimental to the investigation.

So I just reset IT, turn new phone. And then when I tried to look out a back up, we know from a previous, I wouldn't give me that option. So I had to restore IT as a new phone.

Have you heard any rumors .

s about what might have happened to him?

I don't know if they were saying maybe you could have been in by bear, right? If maybe you could fall in. I don't know.

Joseph s. Truck was found on monday, june twenty seventh, two thousand sixteen. Every didn't show up for work in the morning. His truck was found at the mile forty four marker of a road called known council road.

Mile forty four is pretty far out there, a decent track from known proper, at least a forty five minutes to one hour drive from the beaches. No, me. Where Joseph was allegedly last seen with Christine, Joseph s. Truck itself is one of the only physical pieces of evidence we have left to analyze.

Law enforcement has the ability to seize vehicles and processing for fingerprints.

But the alaska state troopers dropped the ball .

on that one that was not done. They basically just didn't explore any of that. I think they became wet to the theory that he was a victim of an accident.

There are multiple sightings of his truck, but some of these sightings appear contradictory. Let's start with the very first sighting.

around three pm. Once saturday, a witness said they saw the truck with a man standing behind the open driver's door. They saw a man standing by the drivers door. The first private investigator that went out interviewed the witness.

tell me your story .

coming from my camp council. So IT was, like saturday afternoon in three top was talked there, kind of an an unusual spot. So I slow down just to see something. I need a help down. And you saw .

somebody standing next .

to the truck and night. So what's this actually.

Joseph? Or could they have been someone else?

He said that he couldn't identify the person that he saw standing there was just too fast and was behind the door, a man with dark care. That's about all they could provide. So there's that.

was he lean against IT or ten feet away from IT .

or what you mean? And and two or three feet away from the car. And so the door is specially block.

And in the, I came down there and something is, and look. However, drivers door was open. He was standing behind the drivers door, looking down the up in his hands and didn't down.

this man claimed. We've seen Joseph truck at three pm on saturday, but if Joseph left the beach at three pm in known and IT takes nearly an hour to get out there, how could this even be possible? Either he's mixed up on the time someone is mistaken or lying about when Joseph actually left town, or this wasn't Joseph at all, there is somebody else standing by the truck.

On sunday. Several people said that they drove by and saw the truck various times during the day. Sunday troopers surgeon cross saw the truck at one o'clock.

According to the elastic state troopers report, sergeant cross sold dress of truck early in the afternoon on sunday, june twenty six. At this point in time, Joseph had been at communication with everyone for nearly twenty four hours.

He was specific that he saw at one P. M. This is a very rural area.

This a gravel road in the midland. Nowhere, if you know the way cops Operate, he's gone to remember IT. I think that's a very credible observation.

The first private investigator interviewed as many witnesses as he could. He found a convoy of two vehicles that had seen Joseph truck at the same time on sunday. They were brothers and separate vehicles driving their families to a wedding. This might be our most credible account.

June twenty four.

two thousand and sixteen was a friday, twenty fifth with a saturday, twenty six with a sunday. And the following monday would have been twenty seven OK OK, you are coming back from council on what day?

The twenty six sunday, the twenty six, our family friend was getting married that day. So we were coming back in early blue, and I were in the same vehicle coming back, and we left council at ten clock in the morning.

Does council have a mile marker?

Is what is IT? Around seventy four, seventy five. So to get to forty four.

you'd have to travel thirty miles. Do you think you left to write at ten?

IT was very close to ten. I remember looking at the clock .

from council to my forty four about how long does that take?

I would say probably forty to forty five. Yeah, I we pushed .

the speed pretty good because I driver inside fifty. So I think it's go a lot faster than just the average person was driving on that road.

We're talking about leaving and just right about ten on the dot and we're talking forty to forty five minutes to hit moma or forty four. Then you believe it's between ten forty and ten forty five or ten forty and ten fifty.

ten forty.

ten forty five. The reason that stood out, I mean, he is right on the edge of the road. When you're gone to go back off the road and go do something, you pulled LED off a lot further than he. He wasn't pulled off. Very thought at all.

Hasty parking job.

So at ten forty five A M. On sunday, june twenty six, Joseph truck was at mile forty four. IT was sticking out in the road at a bizarre angle as that he was parked there in a hurry. The angle in which I was positioned IT almost appears as if the truck was coming from the opposite direction.

Saturday, the twenty fifth, we drove down the council and I can't remember seeing IT there, but I can't say that I did can't say what was .

there or not. But IT seems like when we were all driving down on saturday afternoon, if IT was there, IT seems like we would have seen IT .

if he's heard an ankle break a leg, whatever he's going to be on that ridge, a helicopter and twenty minutes is going to find them. A helicopter and twenty minutes is going to cover more than he can cover an hours of running.

Ruling out file play, I don't think he got lost. And if he's in that area, IT have to be like an animal attack, I guess, you know. And man, I just really don't see that either. You know, there is gonna be something.

yes, in every one of these pictures, he's wearing a hat. When you get more by a Better, has onna fly off? Yeah, there's gonna be something.

And when they kill and need stuff, it's a mess. Yes, I mean.

it's bears swipe and away there is going to be parts and pieces that the bear is .

not interested. Fiction ent, like leave half of .

a whatever the might there be some kind of evidence, you know, lay in there. I guess that's my problem with the bare deal. There's tones of bears.

That area was searched so good, and there are so many things that don't make sense. I IT just feels like a foul play deal to me. Nothing.

nothing makes sense. Either he doesn't want to be found or someone doesn't want him to be found.

I know that helicopter pilot. He's awesome. He worked that whole ridge over back and force five foot of ground twenty four, the ground.

There's a piece missing someone if it's a girlfriend that had an argument with him on the phone, another girl in his life that in known that isn't his technical girlfriend, a roomy that had a fight with him or something.

Things get botched investigations, just simple stuff is, and followed up on, are you enough? A lady watched to walk down the street and get into a cup car and drive away. SHE called IT into the collapse twice. Maybe I Better not say anything more of the cop SHE just go a cup car. I.

I.

I've just worked everybody over.

okay? The search for josep boldero was the largest Operation the city of known had ever conducted. This truck was found less than forty yards from a natural stream visible from the road.

We actually went out there to go fishing. How far can you ve plastically wandered away from this truck? There's not a single trace of him anywhere.

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There were such an exhaustive search for Joseph with helicopters, with people on the ground, with dogs. Maybe there was file play involved .

after everything. And after all the things that i've heard and seen, I think the most likely things are that, as human involvement, somebody either intentionally or accidentally killed him, and we didn't look .

in the right place on a conference call. The first private investigator were called the bizarre incident that occur red.

What they were out searching is Christine uncle, twenty year veteran of the air force space. He retired from IT after twenty years, came back to no. He worked at the known police department for a very short period time, about three months, for whatever reason, did not work .

there anymore.

Kevin, he's not talk about that much, I think because you an x cup made IT some .

future Kevin pessoa and x copy and the uncle of Christine exhibited some wear behavior.

Kevin, the square went around side by side and ran over all the tracks. They scream, they yelled, what are you doing? Why did you do that? But printing just ran over room. That's bizarre behavior for somebody that has long enforcement training.

Took his A, T, V down IT and just ripped up the trail room in the cent. They're all like, why the fuck did you just do that? The constantly question. And I think because he's an garden. Don't have to have .

a enforcement training. Normal person knows that if you're fAllen a foot track, you don't go run over IT. A Normal person knows that. But were a cop that has been trained in the collection preservation of evidence, that's really abNormal. He is Christine uncle, which Christ is important because she's the last person that we know says .

of a few months suffered Joseph missing. Andy clams are interviewed. One of his co workers in them.

I actually went to lunch with him the friday before he went missing me.

There was actual friday before that weekend.

And why I remember that is we had a visiting judge here who'd been coming here, often on for several months, filling in while Joseph sport is out on sick with. I remember that we went to lunch friday, and I remember at that lunch being annoyed with Joseph for looking at a cell phone while we wrote lunch with the judge. I thought that was very rude, and IT was kind of unlike Joseph h.

He had enough people skills to know that was rude, but he kept doing that. And then finally he said, my, he went over on the internet usage, and he was annoyed with that. He must have got some notification from this internet provider saying that he remained had used, stood all up. And he was .

really annoyed .

by that he had rented a house that was right downtown, and within the last four, five months before he disappeared, had a new roman, a local Young man. I understand from friends that there have been a little bit attention between the two. The roommate was Younger, and there were some party. Joseph wasn't comfortable with that .

just a few days after went missing, SHE made contact with joyce roommate, a man named jake. SHE was desperate, trying to gather all the facts and build out some sort of time mine. So SHE text IT as roommate. Jake, about the last time you remember seeing joan.

my accident was on monday, june twenty seven, seven, eleven and twenty. At nine, I really do what I thought. This says, hi jake. Surgeon msk e needs to double check what they in time. Did you last see him?

What do jake tell you? Jake responded.

IT was about one o'clock P. M, on sunday, when I saw him leave, the hallway was too dark to define what colors he was wearing.

Sunday.

I texted back immediately, positive sunday, he says, positive under, he says, he said sunday one. P.

M, if the roommate jack sol Josephin town at the house on sunday, that changes everything.

I take a picture.

the text.

The roommate was interviewed right away, told the troopers he was gone saturday night with friends, but that he saw Joseph the next morning walking down the hallway in the house sunday morning after Joseph had stopped to responding anyone. He's the only person who claims to a scene Joseph on sunday.

Joseph last text was fiancee was around tiny on saturday so did just have drive back to his house and no me then go back out again the next day. And if so, why would you respond to a Fiona? Megan IT just doesn't make any sense.

If jake was the only one to have seen Joseph on sunday, then that would mean Christine is not the last person to have seen Joseph alive. jackets. Jake is also cousins .

with Christine. e. Cousin I, that lives with Joseph is A I don't like IT.

I kind of get a creedy feeling about IT. Is there anything there? I don't know.

I have not been able to interview jake. I set up two interviews. He's never showed up to either one.

I stayed an extra day there to try the interview, Kevin. The square ran over the drill. I just know that sometimes are not add net right? With that.

upon learning of jake's alleged sighting of Joseph on sunday, his family became increasingly concerned. The time line, which was barely making any sense in the first place, was now a complete cluster fuck. The family felt that someone was lying. They met with the state troopers at their office.

And no, me, I know that the line doesn't make sense to you. And we know that his roomy says, he said, people understand and they, that could be that he came back. I don't have the answers and nobody .

does the made sunday. Do you know what he said about that? Like, yes, I saw. I spoke him. I saw him driving weight. Like what level of commitment you've has each other in the home, inside the house on sunday.

guys will be happy to .

go to talk to japan on july third, one week, efforts of went missing elastic state troopers went to Joseph house to interview his roommate. This is the actual tape from their interaction.

This is really important for us to at this time figured out. I mean, we don't think that anybody did any wrong. But what's really important distract is give, give this time, I figured, because if we leave a gap in any of this time sequence that happen, people are going to filled .

with whatever they want to boost .

of the beer bottles and stuff. I ve give a down about a beer bottle. I don't care. Was IT just really important to have the facts? I just want to know. I need to know exactly what happened so I can feel that sequence because it's just important for me.

You will understand that we're trying to help you get this down because when we leave here, we don't have answers everybody to say what they help with homicide investigation and text crime investigator here. People know why I we're here and that I call that shit. These guys are serious. Why are they here? They don't call a send for these for just limitless thing.

During this interview, jae remains almost completely silent, saying as little as possible the true is asking about is alleged sighting of Joseph at one P. M. On sunday. They too far this suspicious on sunday.

on sunday when you say you saw at one thirty, no one else saw him. After that, no one tell him. After you did this called that last known life type thing, he didn't really talk anybody.

After that, there is no communications. There was no contact with anybody on cell or anything. After saturday.

my grantee.

the family is going to be asking .

questions, and they sure did.

One of the many issue .

is with jake sighting of Joseph. Is that a contradicts two other sightings of Joseph ck. The two families driving to a wedding.

Ten forty five. A, M. troper. Sergeant cross one P. M, something seems very .

wrong about this. No matter .

how weird jake story is, he's stuck with IT, but some of the details and exact times have shifted in nearly every version. He's told .

s up to each other, then left, but then later he changed. Actually didn't see Joseph. I just saw his backpack and I assumed he was Joseph.

And then later he was like.

no, actually, I just saw a silly ET of a person and I didn't even say hi to them. Like three times he changed his account, went in where he soldiers with that day.

ultimately claiming that he couldn't actually tell for sure if he was Joseph because of a glare from the sun. So if IT wasn't Joseph, there are just some randa MaaS due in your house that's even murder that is possible that jake may have his days mixed up that weekend. Regardless, he's continue to claim that he was sunday that he saw twenty four hours after anyone else had seen her from.

Why would he say he's on on sunday? I don't understand why he would come home sunday afternoon, one thirty P M, after never getting back to his wife. doesn't. What's that message? It's strange.

Friday, saturday, sunday. The whole thing just seems like a mess now. Why is IT that the last two people to have seen Joseph alive, allegedly for his roommate, and a woman who is rumor to be romantically involved with him, not to mention their cousins, these are the last two people to see Joseph alive.

What is at least significant here is that cristine is the only person who allegedly knew where he was going. Really, he drops off after he meets Christine at the beach this sunday. Christians either trusting jake's word because that's a cousin, or going with the lie. Let's go back to Christine story for a second. On friday night, june twenty fourth, truth out, the borrow of and her sister kim, until the three hours .

of the morning, he claimed that their best the time he keeps doing all these good things, changing her story. Her story is in consistent with her sister's accounts of what happened saturday night by the place went, the things that .

s sister kim. I think girls.

Christine and her sister kim have conflicting accounts of which boris they were at for how long and win. But there are two facts that remain consistent. Both Christine inner sister kim claimed to have been at the bar with Joseph, first said in an establishment called polaris and then a place called breakers.

and a whole story about a fun big factory store, to me, was a lie.

Jose's friend, sirs, expressed his concerns on a .

conference call at betwen, sir, and the affected her iphone was blanked in a way that is technical, impossible, the way he said that her first got a race. What her brother had done in any premium of that is not possible to have happened in that way. 他 这么 想你 怕死 我。

Going through the thousands of pages of documents given us by jose's family, I stumbled upon an old email exchange from that summer and twenty sixteen.

I'm not friends with Christine on facebook, so I can only see limited posts, but solena is her friend and can see more IT seems like she's proactively covering her tracks to me. SHE mentions her phone being locked out repeatedly. That is not Normal.

It's also odd SHE forgot the content of the last two messages Joseph sent. SHE claims to have looked at them, but can't recall what they say. For someone that's clearly in love with Joseph, I find IT highly .

unlikely he forgot.

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I just noticed a picture with Joseph on Christine's facebook. It's at the bar and IT says it's from mobile uploads. Wouldn't that mean? For a matter of fact, this came from .

her cell phone scrolling through Christine facebook. They noticed a photo SHE posted on june twenty eight, two thousand and sixteen, three days after just went missing. And it's in the mobile uploads tap. It's a cell y photo of Christine holding her phone at the bar with kim and Joseph right behind her.

Maybe i'm just hoping for things, but I feel like this has to be a gotcha moment.

Do this is a cell. Y, it's Christine, kim injera all at the bar. Does this not look exactly like the night she's describing? And what board this is? The caption on facebook says this was taken about three weeks ago, feeling concerned.

Well, me too, this is brokers bar. If SHE factory reset at her phone, and how on earth does he have this photo? Somebody is lying.

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