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What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rhea and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Monday, except I have two special guests with me today. I got Kelly Keegs and Gia Mariano. They both host TaylorWatch here at Barstool, covering all of your Taylor Swift needs, and they are pop culture queens as well. They know it all, so we will be discussing it all. But of course, this podcast is presented to you by Macy's. Guys, right now, if you're trying to get into the fall,

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ladies welcome to the show as i said g and kelly both host taylor watch together here at barstool they are covering all everything having to do with taylor so we'll talk a little bit about taylor today we'll get into some topics a little bit later on i also have roan coming on later to do weekly watch report roan works at barstool if you guys know roan used to do um

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biting my nails staring at the TV I saw a little bit of that game covering my eyes it was stressful you're like watching I was watching like this literally but we watched a little bit of that game yeah we did I grew up a Mets fan so I was obviously rooting for the Mets I do when it comes to Philadelphia sports teams I typically root for them for Fran but when it's the Mets I'm rooting for the Mets obviously but what about Marty he's a Yankees fan he's a Yankees fan if it comes to the Mets Yankees then you know

I'm going to throw up my hands in the air and say, let's have a good game, folks. Let's just be good sports about this. Yeah, come on. It's good sports. Well, no, my brother-in-law is also a Yankees fan. So, like, my parents are used to it. He has backup. He has backup if he needs. You're not leaving him out to dry. But if it's Mets versus anybody else, I'm probably going to root.

For the sake of the fam Kelly we had a nice little family dinner yesterday We had a lovely evening Maria just slaved over a hot stove For six hours straight Made some of the most delicious meatballs and sauce And lasagna roll ups I've ever had

And it was a lovely day. He invited us over. Noah was there. Everyone thought it was for Noah's birthday. It wasn't. I'll be the one to say it. I thought we were going to run with it. It was for my birthday. I can't lie like that. We didn't celebrate one thing about Noah. When's your birthday? Next week. It would have been way too early. So we did talk about Noah's birthday coming up. And I was like, oh, why don't we go to dinner for your birthday? Because he said he has no plans, which I'm sure we'll still do. And then I said, oh.

Maybe I'll do like a dinner party And then I just decide to do that on Sunday anyway Like I would It was a last Yeah it was like a last minute thing We were like let's just all You know I think we've got a little A little bit of Like Stockholm Syndrome Like need to hang out Like coming off of Or at least I do I'm speaking for myself Coming off of the Of like

like our time spent in Chicago or whatever a couple weeks ago I think it's like oh you know you see everybody all the time and then you get back and you go back to your normal life but like I'd like a little dinner in there and catch up with everybody and see how everybody's week was exactly so it was a nice little thing nice little family dinner Noah what did you think about the cooking I told you yesterday I was gonna wait to the podcast but I told you it was amazing but you want like a real great yeah you can be a real great and like I said I'm open to criticism because I only want to improve yeah

The thing is, it's like it was so good I could give it a 10. But I also... But I want to have room for a zero. Of course, because there will be more meals. You're hoping for more meals. More meals, better meals probably. Because this honestly, I wouldn't even say is...

even close to my best. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. It was a cozy Sunday, just real, like, makes you feel warm. Should I rate the day or rate the meal? Rate the meal. And also the day. I'll say what I made. I made homemade sauce, obviously. I made lasagna roll-ups, which people are like, somebody responded to me like, isn't that just mon-a-go or how you guys would say it? Like, mm-mm.

People say manicotti. Yeah, that's just not how I say it. But even I don't say it like that. It's not. It's different. No, no. And I made meatballs and I made homemade pigs in a blanket for some apps. The pigs in the blanket were on fire. I fucking love pigs in a blanket. They were cooked. I don't know what you did with those. They were good. They were really good. They were cold and I ate them because I showed up. Because you know I showed up an hour and 15 minutes late. We'll talk about that after that. Shocker. Rating?

I'll give it an 8.5 out of 10. Ooh. That's... I'll take that. That's really good. That's really good. That's really good because that's not even like... Like I said, I don't even think that's the best thing I make. And I was like perfectly full afterwards. I didn't feel like... I didn't feel too stuffed but I wasn't hungry anymore. Wow. Oh my God. I'm so glad you guys enjoyed it. Yeah, so we had a... The wine was nice. Yeah, lovely wine. Wine was good. So...

Here's the thing. We had a start time of 1 o'clock. Everyone come over at 1 o'clock. We'll watch football, make apps, whatever. While the sauce is on the pot, ready to go. While the sauce, you know, you can smell it all. Right, right, right, right, yeah. No one shows up.

an hour and a half. Let's just make it clear that Tommy and Kelly didn't show up until like, what, 145? Like 150? But we were ready to go and that was an Uber choice. It was going to be either take the train or take an Uber. If I took the train, I think I would have been there earlier to be honest. But we said in advance, you know, we're just, we're figuring it out. Kelly and Tommy left early.

when you decided to go to the gym. Like they were on their way. I didn't go to the gym. I was in my apartment. I was in my apartment. But Noah showed up at... I had to get a workout and I literally, I was like, I feel disgusting. Noah showed up about 2.40. Okay. You look terrible in your apartment. A little disrespectful. No, not 2.15. No, it wasn't 2.15. No, no, it was 2.30. Let me check. Yes. Because I texted you. Well, well,

The question really is Did you get the Doritos Before or after You got dropped off At I got it before I got in my Uber Got it okay It was definitely 2.30 Because we were looking We were just It wasn't 2.15 Oh it was 2.30 Yeah Okay yes So somewhere between 2.15 and 2.40 It was 2.30 And

and i didn't think it was such a hard like 1 p.m you know it's just when you're cooking for people and you like want to know when to put things in the oven and like i had put apps in the oven and everyone's showing up late i'm like okay guys like i that you can it's gonna be fine but just it's gonna be cold yeah and that upsets me for you i am notoriously late to everything i'm just so yeah i'm usually pretty late as well but um

But I wasn't as late as Noah. No. A New York one o'clock is like 1.30. Yeah. And that's pretty much exactly what happened. 2.40? You're pushing it. That's a little rude. And shows up with one...

one solo bag of Doritos. I don't think that's a bad move. I mean, I love the Doritos. At least it wasn't empty here. All the girls' faces were like one bag of Doritos. I also did ask you like, hey, do you need me to bring anything? You were like, no, I have everything. Like Tommy was like, oh, I'm going to bring something. You were like, don't worry, I have it. So I'm like, all right, what can I bring? I'll bring a Doritos. Not even a dip to go with it? They already had the dip. And what do you dip Doritos in?

That's true. You can dip Doritos in anything. So, you guys had the dip. Nacho cheese? I won't be ashamed for the, hey, I was late, but I won't be ashamed for the Doritos. A singular bag of Doritos. I won't lie, they were good. We ate the shit out of those Doritos later. I did end up housing the Doritos later on. Were they nacho or were they the blue one? Nacho. Which, by the way, more to my credit, I like blue ranch more, but I was like, this

This is a safer for the group. Blue Ranch. The new flavor of Doritos. Blue Ranch. Cool Ranch. That's what you said. Cool Ranch. But Blue Ranch was funny. I like Cool Ranch better too, but I still ate the nachos Doritos. I like them both equally. It's very much mood dependent for me. Well, all jokes aside, I had a lovely time. I'm glad you guys came. I thought it was a lovely day. Thank you for having us. Of course. We just sat around. We ate dinner. We watched football. We watched baseball. It was a fantastic day. The sunset in your apartment is...

very nice oh thank you it's gorgeous I take a thousand photos well I'm like a you know I love a window I love a view I love anything like that but the problem is like I can't like I'll be mid conversation and I'll just zone out staring at the window and stop talking or like put myself up against a glass like a freak like I but I just love it you look at people's windows yeah it's the best look at these beautiful photos like are you kidding me

do you not get what i just said what'd you say i looked in people's windows i heard you thank you it was that like and i loved it it is it is i loved it awkward this is a tailor watch i was like no jane no i got it immediately i just knew she wouldn't but um i'm a idiot i'll just leave um no it was a lovely day uh and i and i very much want to do more things like that i think that people like

Like friend groups In general Don't utilize Like a Sunday You know Family day enough Like I think that Everybody needs to Have their friends Over on Sundays more Yeah I agree For a little Daytime situation It's like a good Recharge Good food Yeah You don't have to Get blacked out Yeah Have a couple drinks You know I drink a bottle Of champagne But that's okay Yeah That was an accident To yourself I thought other people Were drinking it too And they weren't So

Oh, man. No, it was a lovely time, though. Obviously, I love when people come over. I love hosting. I love cooking for my friends. So I'm so glad you guys came. And Noah, I don't actually care that you were late. Don't worry about it. And I did enjoy the Doritos. So you're good. We were like cooking up a thing, though. We were like, let's make Noah feel bad. Oh, well, yeah. And when Tommy texted. When he texted me, I was like, I know that's not real. I think Tommy was legitimately mad that you were late. Like, he kept being like, what a

what a piece of shit so late. Like he kept bringing it up. I could have been three minutes late. He would have said that. Oh man. Well, good times, good times had by all. It was a pretty chill weekend for myself as well. Besides that. And Oh, you know what I saw on Saturday? Oh my God. Y'all. I saw the Lady Gaga Joker movie. And here's the thing. Was it horrific? If you don't like a, an over the top artsy musical, you're going to hate this movie.

I do like that kind of movie. So I went in being like, you know what? I might like this. I might enjoy myself during this movie. I enjoyed myself for the first like hour and 15 minutes. I think the last like 20 minutes or so of the movie could have been totally cut out. It was basically no plot of the whole thing. So you did enjoy yourself. I truly can't decide. I didn't hate it as much as everybody else does. Wait, I wanted to read this quote from the New York Times because it was the funniest. Like it made me want to see it more.

Hold on. Being universally hated. That's what I'm saying. So the New York Times called it a dour, unpleasant slog. Which I was like, I have to see this movie. A slog? Let me tell you, I don't know what any of those words mean. I don't know what unpleasant means.

somebody's using the thesaurus function is what's happening but but um so i went into it being like all right this is gonna blow but i'm excited whatever we went for my friend's birthday he walked out halfway through so he couldn't even watch the rest we did yeah joey walked out he was like i'll see you guys in my apartment after like i'm done with this i was like you're so rude but okay and so we watched he also didn't tell us we stood up at the end of the turn around yes we were like what'd you think and he was gone so we're like oh my god psychopath and so um but yeah so the movie itself like lady gaga the the

acting is incredible, I think. Joaquin Phoenix is like a freak. Lady Gaga's a freak. Everybody's a psycho. Brendan Gleeson is a cop. You know, Matt I. Moody, so I was excited to see him. And, you know, there's just a lot going on the whole time. Has nothing to do with like Batman or anything. Like if you're looking for like, you know, the story. It's just about his trial, right? It's all about his trial and it like...

it leaves reality like half the movie. Like it keeps going to like a musical number like in his head and like stuff like that. So if that's what you're looking for, then go in with that. But yeah, weird movie. Did you guys like the original Joker? I never saw it. I loved it.

It was very dark. Yeah. Very uneasy. I just never found myself in the mood to watch it. And I feel like if I would have, I would have watched it with somebody else or like seen in theaters. I just never got around to it. You might like it actually, Gia. I think I would. If you were in like a moody mood, you would like it.

I just heard it was so dark. So I was like, I don't know if I'm ready to face that. No, it was really dark. I saw it in theaters and I remember feeling extremely like uneasy after, but I thought he did such an incredible job. Like obviously he's an amazing actor, but watching it, I was like, Ooh, this isn't like, like one of my favorite movies ever is the dark night, which is weird because I don't,

really love like superhero movies or anything like that but to me The Dark Knight is more realistic like anything with Batman is a little bit more realistic to me than the other ones because he doesn't fucking fly right like he's just like saving like he's in Gotham like fighting crime he's just a rich dude yeah yeah I thought you meant more than like the Joker I was like no no no no I love

the Joker and I love anything having to do with like the Batman universe because it's just a little bit more realistic to me. Got it. Got it. Other superhero movies. Have you watched the last Batman with Robert Pattinson? I haven't watched that one yet. That one's really good. I have 30 minutes left on that movie. In the Joker realm of like really dark. I think. Yeah. It's good. I was actually talking about this the other day. Like I think if Heath Ledger would have just continued being the Joker obviously everyone wishes that. Yeah. Like it's like. Of course. Of course.

Anyone after him will always be compared to him. It's always going to be like, but remember Heath Ledger's Joker? Because I feel like he had the perfect mix of being depressed and things happened to him, but also he's not letting that get him down. He's evil and he's going to do shit about it. Whereas Joaquin Phoenix is just very down in the dumps.

I do think though that Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is closest to Heath Ledger's as opposed to everybody else who's like tried to do it I mean Jared Leto Jared Leto Jared Leto I'll laugh you out of the fucking building are you out of control he's Jared Leto is he needs to stop trying to be the Joker like he's tried to be the Joker in like five different movies now it's like you're just not it dude like it's not for you Barry is supposed to be the next Jill I think he would be incredible I think that'll be awesome because he's a real psychopath as well you should watch the Batman and like the last like five minutes they like show like

They don't show him, but like show his voice. Did you see that? Oh, there is? Yeah, I think I saw it. He looks like he'll be more in the Heath Ledger realm. Yeah, for sure. Did you guys ever watch Gotham, the TV show? No. No, but everybody's telling me to. I also need to watch Penguin. That one was really good. It's actually the guy from the OC was in it.

Oh, Ben McKenzie? I knew this. I didn't know that's a Batman thing. Yeah, Gotham. I guess it makes sense, Gotham. It's also, I'm blanking on his name, the kid from Shameless plays the Joker. No.

I love him. He was on our show. Cameron Monaghan plays the Joker in Gotham. Got it. He was really good. He's a really good actor. Yeah, he's really incredible. But I've never seen the Batman with Robert Pattinson because I also heard that one was kind of strange. It is dark. So I watched it a couple weeks ago, but I didn't finish it. It's a really long movie. It's three hours long. And I went in not realizing it was three hours long. So I watched about two and a half hours of it. And then I was like, oh, my God. So I got to watch the end of it.

but it is really good. It's really good. Just don't watch it when you're tired. It's an interesting new take on it because you don't really get that in-depth of personality from Batman, really. He's like emo. Yeah, totally. He's very emo. Zoe Kravitz is so hot in it. She's so hot. She's really good. She's fantastic. And I didn't really like it the first time

I watched it, but when I watched it at home, I was like, whoa, this movie's really, really, really good. It's well shot, well acted. All the pieces, all the people in it are really good. I need Lady Gaga to get a better role. I'm telling you, she was not bad. I understand why people are like, this movie sucks, because if you're a superhero movie person, this movie is not for you. It's very much like an artsy take on it all, which I love a movie like that if I'm in the right mood. I don't know if this is true, but people...

- People on Twitter were saying like that the first one was so like fucked up and kind of like justified him being so fucked up in a way that like they wanted to make this one so bad that people wouldn't like sympathize with like fucked up people. - No, it kind of went the other way. It kind of went the other way because, and also, you know what, I'm fresh off, I don't want to get too much into shows because you have your weekly watch report coming, but like I'm fresh off the Menendez brother thing.

And so, you know, the Joker's whole thing is that he was abused as a kid and whatever. So they bring a lot of that up. And in the movie, like the whole point of the trial is to prove that like the Joker is a different person. They got split personality. Like that's what they're talking about. And so that's the whole thing. And honestly, like the case is made immediately. Like it's almost like, it's almost like the people who are arguing that he's not two different people are,

Like they look stupid I think The whole time So I'm still kind of like This guy's clearly fucked up Like how is nobody Saying anything So it kind of doesn't work In that way If they're trying to Like make you not Sympathize with him But I also just love Joaquin Phoenix I think Right do they make His musical things That he's picturing In his head Part of his split personality Like oh all of a sudden He's envisioned

Sort of It progresses As it goes on Like there are First he kind of like Ends up He's in jail And he like goes Into a singing class And so that's where It kind of starts Okay And then all of a sudden He It's like a jail thing Oh he enters a singing class In jail Yeah it's like a For the inmates Who are well behaved I don't want to give Too much away But that is That's like how Things kind of kick off And then all of a sudden He's singing I think that explains Enough honestly Yeah to me I'm like I If I'm watching A Joker movie And all of a sudden He enters a No he's in an office

Like literally, like he literally, he's going to Julliard after this. Like that would throw me off. People forget like Joaquin Phoenix is an excellent performer. He's walked the line, Johnny Cash. So he can really sing. So, you know, when they do sing in the movie, it's not like it's bad. I don't doubt that it's good. I mean, like I know that Lady Gaga and him are so talented that it's going to be good. I think that it's just not the movie that people want.

It's definitely not. It's definitely not. I feel almost like it's my job to say, like, this is not a... Like, it's not a Batman movie. There's no Batman. Like, there's... Batman's not in this movie at all. It's all about, you know, Arthur Fleck...

who is, that's his real name as a Joker. Like, it's all about him. Like, it's not really a, you know, he puts the makeup on a little bit, but besides that, it's really not like a Batman movie. Did you guys ever see House of Gucci with Lady Gaga? Yes. Oh, God. House of Gucci. I thought this movie was bad. They talk like this. They had like a Russian accent. It was so incredibly... They could not figure out an accent in that movie to save their life. No, they really couldn't. And she was so good in Stars Born, and then, yeah, House of Gucci was not...

I didn't see it, but apparently it sucked. And then this one is not that good. But again, I don't think it was anyone's fault. Like everyone acted well. I think that like maybe because it's Lady Gaga and I'm like, that's Lady Gaga acting as someone else. Like maybe I can't take her out. Yeah. Because I do think she does a good job. Like she was great in A Star Is Born. They really like, you know, she didn't look like herself. You fall into that character and she crushed it. But I think everywhere else. She didn't have the one guy who believed in her.

Where was Bradley Cooper on the set of House of 500? Did you guys see the clip of Joaquin and Lady Gaga at the premiere and someone did like a lip reading and it kind of looks like Joaquin turns to her and goes like, it's horrible. And she's like laughing and she's like, what? Like, no, it's not. And he's like, the ending is horrible.

Or something like that? No, I didn't see that. No, I didn't see that. It's been circulating on my TikTok. But I wouldn't be shocked because, again, the whole movie was okay and it really was just like the last 20 minutes that I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, okay, fine, whatever. But, again, I think if you go to see it, have an open mind, but also just know that it is not a superhero movie. It's very much a, you know, Lady Gaga, Joaquin Phoenix movie.

- Artsy. - Artsy kind of movie. - This movie is made for freaks like you. - Exactly, yeah, exactly, exactly. - I love that. - It is. And so I left, I was like, "Mah."

And I was looking around, everybody was like, God, awful. I was like, oh, I kind of totally bad for sure. I hated it. I wanted to talk about it for the rest of the night. The different ways. Todd Phillips is a genius. Nobody cares. Everybody was like, go back to school, Todd Phillips. All right, let's get into the rest of the topics for the show. We are going to be talking about the Bravo Kansas City Chiefs housewives show.

that is apparently coming, which I don't know why, but we'll talk about that. Kourtney Kardashian, Halloween decor, a little interesting. Obviously, she's got to throw sex into the mix with Halloween. Anne Hathaway says that she will be returning for Princess Diaries 3 in a very, very cute video. And Zendaya talked a little bit about Dancing with the Stars, which...

I thought was interesting just because I forgot Dendea was on Dancing with the Stars. Me too, I always forget. And we'll do Weekly Watch Report. That will be with Roan. So let's get into the topics.

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So it has been announced that Bravo will be making a show about the Kansas City Chiefs housewives. Obviously, Brittany Mahomes and Taylor Swift are not going to be on the show. Now this begs the question, why? Why are they making this? Is the entire show just going to be them talking about Taylor Swift? Yes.

Absolutely. Yeah, a thousand percent. It's just annoying. Honestly, it's annoying. That's just like a huge cash grab for sure. I can just see it. And I sent you this tweet, Kelly, but someone on Twitter completely knocked it out of the park with their like summary of it. They're like, they're going to tease every single episode with Taylor's name. They're going to cut it off on some like cliff ender where you think Taylor's going to pop out next episode. And they're just going to constantly use Taylor Swift for views, which is, you know,

I guess get that bag, but like... It's a part of it. I think truly the... I think the Chiefs are in a spot right now where they are... Obviously, they have their own success and fame. They won the Super Bowl a bunch of times. They have their own people in there. Like, it's not all about Taylor Swift, but...

Her being added to the mix kind of sent them on another level. So I think that all of a sudden all these things are popping up. And whether people want to admit it or not, it has to do with her, I think. And I'm not mad about like a WAGs show. I think that's fun and cool. But the timing is suspect. And it makes me think that they're definitely going to be using her for Cloud a little bit. Yeah, and I feel like it shouldn't be Chiefs specific.

Like why can't they be all the wags? They should do like a fun wag show. Yeah, why can't they do... But do you think that they're going to roll out like basically just do what they did with Housewives? Like Housewives? Honestly, they could. They could do that, yeah. They could totally do that. But I will say this. Taylor Swift is a known fan of Bravo. So...

I'm not saying that she'll ever go on the show. I don't think she would ever be on that show. But I do think... Maybe she'll watch it. That she would watch it. That she'd get involved in it. I think also, too, she might be in the background taking photos, pan over and they see her in the back. I think she'd allow something like that. She gets an EP credit? Right. Like something silly. But that would just be so annoying.

It would be kind of crazy. But you know what? I don't know. This is a whole new world, a whole new life. I never would have thought that Taylor Swift would be at a fucking football game to begin with, let alone something like this. So who knows? When I heard this, I thought that there was potential that Brittany Mahomes would do it. For sure. Well, you know what?

She might be doing this. Definitely. But now with her newfound friendship with Taylor, I could see her wanting a little bit more privacy rather than going right into a new show. I feel like she's been a little bit more...

She's been a little bit more low-key after the whole... Right. Yeah, she was kind of poking the bear a little bit with politics. Right. I think since then she's been... I haven't even seen her since then. If she's at the stadium for games... It feels like she's like winding into like being like a little bit more... A little bit of a low-key mode. Yeah, totally. Which I completely understand. Like whatever kind of feedback she received from that positive or negative, I can't imagine...

I'm sure it was overwhelming. Yeah. I mean, so... And, you know, they've got kids. She's pregnant again. People forget she's pregnant. And even her past prior years when it was her and Jackson always screaming and yelling. She just always kind of gets herself into shit. Spring cold champagne on everyone in the middle of winter. Right, right. People don't forget that. People are upset about that. And I feel like now maybe she's got a little lesson from tree pain. Maybe she stepped in and was like, Brittany, here's a class. Baby girl. Yeah. Let's get on board here. Let's figure it out. So I was...

When I first heard this, I thought maybe Brittany Mahomes would do it. But now that it's not Brittany, it's definitely not going to be Taylor. I'm like, okay, I see them dipping their toes. I just thought maybe they would have done like a collective, not just Kansas City Chiefs. Maybe. What about the 49ers? You got Olivia Coppo. Exactly. Olivia Coppo did. Yeah. Olivia Coppo did the reality show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So why not just make that into like wax? Like kind of transfer that into that. No, I agree completely. Did people like that show when it was on?

The Cocoa Sister show? I never watched it, to be honest. Not for any reason. I just didn't watch it. I didn't watch. I'm sure there are people who did like it and watch, but I didn't watch it. I'm just confused about what the drama is going to be. What's the drama of being a wife? They'll make all kinds of... It'll be like, we're going to be late. What are we going to wear? Oh, my husband lost his game. It's similar, though, too. We didn't get invited to Taylor Swift's birthday. Right, right. Will Taylor be there? It'll be a lot of that. We're meeting up with Taylor after this.

- The wives are gonna have to know that the show's not gonna be about them. It's gonna be about Taylor even though she's not even gonna be in it. Which is like, if I was one of the wives, I'd be like, I don't wanna do it if I have to talk about her all the time. - Maybe they'll do the opposite. Maybe they'll start it open and be like, hey, Taylor says it's not gonna be on this show and you gotta learn about us. So here we are and get used to it. Maybe they'll face it head on, which I think would be smart. - Maybe they're in a mode where they're like, why does nobody care about us?

It's our time to shine. Could be. Be like, you know, we walk so she could run. Right. Pay attention to us. Right. I would be down with that. Like, I would be like, all right, this is good. But I completely agree with both of you in the way that I don't know why it has to be Chiefs specific. I do think the Chiefs right now are just whatever PR team they've got going on. They've got that fake Hallmark movie coming out with the Chiefs that's like filmed at Arrowhead and like all that other shit. And then what else? They have like a book coming out too. Like one of those kids books.

Another one? Oh, I don't know. They're like pumping out those kids books. The like golden books. They made one about the Kelsey Brothers. Taylor Swift one I have on my desk. They have like a Chiefs one now too. I have a question for you guys. Yeah. They recently did an interview with moms of...

famous Vanity Fair cover or whatever Vanity Fair is that what it is Donna Kelsey yeah she was getting a lot of heat for being in that yeah what did you guys think about that I'm not surprised at all we as we over at Taylor Watch understand that Donna Kelsey loves a press up she loves a press moment she loves a press moment I went through a phase she never says no I went through a phase where I was big on like Donna Kelsey's a clout chaser oh yeah we went through

- Let me tell you, this was before, this was when the Chiefs won. - She's always been like this. - She's always been, yeah. - She loves the moment and that's fine. She's unapologetic. - This was the Super Bowl before Taylor and Travis are dating. - The first one, the Chiefs, the Eagles won, right? - Yeah, Eagles versus Chiefs and they won and I started saying, "Donna Kelsey's a clout chaser. She's doing all these like kind bar ads." And people did not like that. They were not a fan of that tape. - They didn't like it when we did it either.

Joking around And I thought That people would have laughed Now that we've entered This mode They definitely Won't find it funny Do I think Donna Kelsey Like you said Loves a press up She loves a press up She absolutely does But that's what I'm saying Like we're making jokes We're laughing Very sweet woman We're making jokes We're laughing But I think that she would Laugh at that too Because yeah She literally never says no To a press opportunity I mean she was On the red carpet For grotesquery Before Travis Answering questions About the show

It's just so funny to me. She loves it. And you know,

you know, honestly, Kelsey, that fame. People are going to get upset. But I think she would laugh. Like she's so funny. Yeah. And, and she obviously is very sweet and cares about her kids and is a fantastic mom. So she got a lot of shit for being doing that. Was it glamour magazine? I think, or what was the publication that did the interview? The one that they just did. I thought it was Vanity Fair. It's Vanity Fair. I think. Oh, but, um,

A lot of people are saying, like, you know, these other three women raised, like, these ultimate pop stars, child stars that went through all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, like...

Donna Kelsey raised two of the best football players of all time. I know. If not. And good men. Two Hall of Famers. Two great guys. Two guys who are so good with their family. So good in the press. It's glamour. Sorry, glamour. Not Vanity Fair. They donate a lot of money. They just seem like very wholesome people. It sounds like the Kelsey family is paying you to say that. No, but it's true. You're right. You're absolutely right in this. Donna deserves a little press moment like this.

She's nothing to see as that. She literally had to put her two boys through the whole fucking football process, watch Travis get kicked out of school, all that stuff. And then, yeah, so she gets to go on the red carpet, do a little interview, talk about her Pinot Grigio and her hot dogs. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Also, if anyone's gonna...

wants to like or if you're looking for advice from anyone on being a mom donna kelsey is a good person to ask like she clearly has has raised two two good men respectable people and that's hard to do you know successful hardworking whatever and i think yeah so so this one we'll give her this one this is her moment to shine she deserves to be on the cover of like moms of the year no and i i totally agree with everything you said i think just because somebody raised a pop star or

obviously that takes a lot as well, but there is something about raising two children

Yeah, totally. It is so much work. Starting from a young age, a lot of money, a lot of time. You basically give up your life for your child to be able to pursue their dreams, their goals, and this sport. So I think absolutely she deserves credit. And it's all fun and games joking about her. And it's not even Donna, too. Ed is right there with her. Ed has his own podcast. Oh, no, no. Ed is more than Donna. Ed is always on Facebook making stuff.

statuses he's always like being so crazy but it's hilarious but I truly believe that Donna Kelsey would laugh at these jokes because every time she is interviewed or something she's like she gives a little sarcastic answer like she says stuff about Taylor they'll be like oh how's Taylor and she's like I don't know we're barely getting to know each other like she'll say stuff like that all the time and I think it's funny intentionally yeah I don't think that she's uh she's stiff about it in any way she's a funny she's a funny lady yeah and I think it I think it's funny to joke around about but obviously give her the credit that she deserves yeah um moving on

on Kourtney Kardashian obviously had to sex up her Halloween decor, making her skeletons in sex positions on her lawn. Now, I just don't understand why. I just don't get it. No one knows why. I feel like, listen, Kourtney, we get it. You and Travis, fuck.

We understand at this point. I feel like that was a big thing in the beginning. Their sexual chemistry is off the charts. And that is fantastic. I'm all for wonderful sexual chemistry. But we get it. We got it at this point. Not everything has to be

sexually related especially when it comes to halloween which is a child's holiday exactly you know what i mean like it is very much like i don't want to be like approved like oh like sex position oh my god no you know you're probably gonna have kids going up to your house they're gonna be skeletons fucking on the on the lawn yeah tell me this if you if

Courtney and Travis are your parents. Are you like embarrassed that they are obsessed with sex and they can't stop talking about sex and they're putting sex, you know, skeletons on the lawn? People comment on TikToks all the time being like, there's a reason why like Mason and Penelope don't want to be a parent. Yeah. It's just like overly, it's like, okay, we get it. Like, I don't know. I just. Yeah. Right. Especially with their kids.

I'm just thinking about like if my parents were to be so openly like... My parents kiss and I'm like, oh! No, like my parents... Right, my parents are... Whoa, whoa, whoa. So like lovey-dovey and I love that because I find it to be a great example of love but they're not like overly... And it's sweet and mature. And like...

I'm not one to shy away from a sexual joke. Everybody knows that. I love a good sexual innuendo. I love a good sexual joke. But I also think that there's also a line where you do not need to have your skeletons fucking on the lawn. It would be maybe funny if they had a little skeleton diorama in the house, in their room. That's funny. Skeletons shocking or something. Or if they were hosting an adult party. A giant blow up. Right. A one night adult party. All the parents are coming and it's on the lawn. Sexy Halloween party. Parents, whatever. Yeah.

But yeah, a 500 foot fucking blow up skeleton for everyone to see is just, it's like just a little disgusting. And it's honestly distasteful. Distasteful is the word for it. They love to shock though. I feel like that's Courtney's whole thing. She's like, stop, stop, don't give me attention, don't do anything. But also here's skeletons fucking on my front yard. It's like, tell us what you want, girl. Do you want us to pay attention to you or do you want us to leave you alone? Because right now it looks like you want us to talk about you and not to leave you alone. The way that

courtney kardashian has acted with travis barker was that she truly was having the worst sex of her entire life until this man yeah like the way that she it's it's always like about yeah like like tongue kissing with them and like it's so like it's like graphic it's just like we you know like i'm so happy for her but clearly you were not getting it before this right wait it's become very apparent it's very it's you know i

it's giving like baby's first time having sex. Like it's just, that's the, you know. Yeah, like first boyfriend. It's like, act like you've been there before. I will say, out of all of the sex positions to choose, this was the most PG I thought. Yeah, I do agree. Because it does kind of look like they're hugged

I do agree. It's not doggy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Like imagine one skeleton is bent over. That would be crazy. Yeah. I think the one I saw was doggy. Really? What? I just saw one where she's like, I'm assuming it's a girl skeleton is sitting on top of this. Yeah, that's the one I saw. That's the one I saw. Just kidding. Just kidding. Yeah, that one. So like, you know, if little kids were like, mommy, like, what is that?

It's also like, I guess, see, but it's like, I don't, yeah. It's straddling. Maybe they're not, maybe it's not fornication. The hands on the face. Hands on the face and these hands back. I'm like, okay. Those are skeletons that are fucking. Yeah. Yeah. That's very clear. Yeah. At least it's not like the skeletons are like in reverse. Right. That would be too much. Every day is a new position. Like Sabrina Carpenter is doing on stage. Right. In another world.

Maybe for something else That would be funny But yeah I don't know I just I think Like if I had Say I had a house Me as myself currently No kids No husband Nothing And I have Skeletons having sex On my front yard Would anybody be surprised Probably not But I also don't think I would ever do that I would just find it weird That you would be doing that When you know kids Are walking around That's what I mean In your own home

when you don't have kids inside your house yeah and you have skeletons doing that fine whatever get freaky with it there's a lot of nudity on my walls exactly that's true it is true but kids don't come in there right you're not having kids in your home yeah

And you wouldn't be putting skeletons on your front lawn when you know kids are walking around trick-or-treating. That would be weird on your part. Absolutely, it would. It would be even more weird that you have no kids and you're doing that. Absolutely, it would. And also, too, I think they live in a family-oriented neighborhood. It's not like they live in like... I don't know. I just...

Yeah, the kids thing. The trick-or-treaters, all that idea of it. It's for the kids, Vince. It's for the kids. Yeah, it's for the kids. But the children love the books. It's wild. I don't know. It's too much for me. Yeah, Kelly, like you said, I feel like she's always like, I don't want to be famous. I don't want this. I don't want that. And then she...

does crazy shit like this and it's like alright well what do you expect us to do not talk about this I can also see like if you guys watch the Kardashians there's a lot of times where they will insinuate that they don't like letting their kids stay at Kourtney's house yeah like Khloe will insinuate I don't blame them at all with this they don't eat candy they eat like sugar free

Everything gluten free Right the food is one thing But I think it's more Yeah it's more the The energy of the place And it's not Penelope was like Slapping her babysitter I don't want it to come across Like I'm like oh You know kids can't be Exposed to sex and stuff But there is no need For it to be so overt I think Yeah It doesn't They don't need to know about I don't know They don't need to be like They don't need to

Be introduced to like a perverted sense of humor So young We don't need to taint Halloween Let Halloween be for kids Halloween can also already be scary Yeah you know Don't scare them with sex Exactly now they're gonna That's how children get pregnant That's how teen pregnancy starts Thanks a lot Courtney Or the other way around These kids will never have sex again Because they're scarred all they think about is their parents having sex forever And now they're sexually confused for the rest of their life I'm telling you

Oh, God. Moving on to something a little bit lighter. Anne Hathaway made a cute video with the announcement of Princess Diaries 3. I think we knew that this was in the works, but to get the confirmation from Anne Hathaway's face herself, she did one, and then she did two, and then she did three. And I am so, so, so fucking excited for this. I love the Princess Diaries. I mean, we were just talking about the Princess Diaries last week on our episode, Noah, and Noah was confusing it with The Sound of Music. Yeah, people were like, that one...

Julie Andrews. I was like, oh yeah, I love the scene on the mountain or whatever. I love in Princess Diaries when they're fleeing. In my head, I was thinking of like when they're running around like in San Diego or San Francisco, sorry, on the hills. And I was like, oh, is that what he's referring to? No, he was referring to the sound of music. I haven't seen either to be fair. That's crazy. You haven't seen either? You just have Julie Andrews like in your brain, I guess. Princess Diaries has to be...

I honestly think Princess Diaries 2 is better than Princess Diaries 1. I agree. But they have to be up there for top 20 favorite of my movies of all time, no doubt. Oh, God. They're seriously the best. So comforting, heartwarming. Chris Pine is so cute. Oh, yeah. Sexy, sexy. Second one, suave. Oh, it's funny. Oh, it is funny. Julie Andrews just...

The queen Oh it's like The eagle has flied Is flown for the last time The queen is coming That's it Julie Andrews Should have been the queen Of the world Oh of the world Absolutely Like in general That's why we talk about To grow up high school I wonder if she Yeah I wonder if she To grow up high school I wonder if she Like I'm sure she met the queen For real for real Yeah

for real. It was Julie Andrews birthday last week. How old is she? Queen Lizzie or Julie Andrews? It was Julie Andrews birthday last week which is why we were talking about it in the first place. Do you know how old she turned? Andrews age. She's 89. Oh just like my grandpa. Oh my god. My grandpa's birthday was this past weekend and he turned 89. Wait have we seen her around? Like has she been around Julie Andrews?

No, but I've heard her voice in Bridgerton. She looks good. She's still doing the Bridgerton voiceovers. She kind of looks like my grandma. Totally. Mima a little bit. She actually does look like Mima. You know what? Kudos to Anne for being booked and busy. Yeah, big time. She's got Devil Wears Prada 2 coming out as well. I'm here for the Anne Hathaway renaissance. Me too. She's dipping her nostalgia pen into all of our favorites, and I couldn't be more thrilled. Yeah, I'm a fan of Anne Hathaway. As am I. I always have been. She's a fan.

She ends up with The jerk off In that too right Adrian Brody No I think Do they end up together At the end They do Not Adrian Brody Adrian Grenier Adrian Grenier I think you see each other Vinny Chase Yeah yeah Vinny Chase They run into each other At the restaurant Yeah like a cafe At the end And I think they probably I think it's

that they're not together in the second one. But I hope not to. No, because he was a douchebag. He didn't deserve her. He didn't deserve her at all. He didn't understand fashion. No, he didn't understand the art. Exactly. Not even that. He didn't understand a woman trying to propel her career. Exactly. Wasn't he like a stay-at-home in that movie? He was like a chef at home making grilled cheese and spending $25 on cheese. And it's like, we're poor here and I'm trying to make a name for us. I'm Anna Hathaway. We're trying to make a name for us over here in the fashion world and you don't give a shit. You don't even know what chartreuse is.

Exactly. And he felt like emasculated by Anne McLean, which is such a turn off. Such a turn off. I hate that so much. Me too. Okay, last topic. Zendaya talked about Dancing with the Stars. I will read her quote. Now, it's no secret that obviously Zendaya is not spending her time watching Dancing with the Stars. So I do not know why people are upset about this quote. But she said...

I have not watched Dancing with the Stars since I was on. I didn't really watch Dancing with the Stars before I was on the show. I don't think I was the target demographic. My grandma loves Dancing with the Stars. That's her bag. Okay, that's kind of a dig at Dancing with the Stars. I don't appreciate that. But yeah, I also think it was a very stressful experience. I was like, I don't think I'm going to be watching anymore. Now people were a little bit like,

hey, we're all watching Dancing with the Stars all ages right now. People think that Dancing with the Stars is a grandparent show, which obviously it does hit that demographic. But now with the people that they are having on these shows, it does reach our audience. I was going to say, maybe like 10 years ago or five years ago, I would put Dancing with the Stars as maybe an older show for older people. But yeah, with the...

I feel like now they put on people that I don't even know who they are. I'm like, who the hell is this guy? He's an influencer or whatever. Like, I didn't really know who...

Oh, God, I forget her name. She got kicked off. She was like the scammer. Anna Delvey. I didn't really know who Anna Delvey was that much until she was on Dancing with the Stars. Well, they made that show, Inventing Anna, which was about her like... Yeah, she's like, I will give you the check. I'll get you, I'll hire you the transfer. Her lore, well, I love Anna Delvey. We talked about her last time we were chatting. I love her a lot. But I just said like her lore...

I think Dancing with the Stars has become like the only like fan

family show right now. Your whole family watches it. I watch it, my younger sibling, my parents, my grandparents. It's kind of now in that realm, similar to how American Idol used to be, where everybody would watch American Idol. Everybody watches Dancing with the Stars. I'll say this about Zendaya. I fucking love her. Love, love. She never misses an outfit. She is an excellent actress. I'm obsessed with her in every way. Absolutely. Stunning goddess. So stunning goddess. She thinks a lot of things are corny. I feel like every time she has a quote about a show or something, whatever, she's

basically says, like, that's corny, that's not my shit. Like, she, I think, is not someone to, like... Like, I wouldn't ask Zendaya for, like, movie or book or, like, TV show recommendations. Like, she's busy, you know what I mean? And she kind of, like... Her tone in that is usually her tone with things, I've noticed. I don't really...

hear Zendaya talking much about she doesn't that's why when she does it's like oh okay like she always it always kind of sounds like she's talking shit but she's not whenever I hear Zendaya talking or I see a video of Zendaya I'm like she's cool as fuck yeah like anytime I see anything of Zendaya I'm like she's so cool seeing her say that I bet would be cool I bet would be like yeah fuck Dancing with the Stars you know what I mean like she's kind of like it's definitely in a cool way but she's too cool she's too cool yeah I just don't really see her talking about things much and

I can't see why she would watch Dancing with the Stars now. I feel like a lot of people have like trauma from it. Like they don't realize how like hard it is. So many people have talked about how hard Dancing with the Stars was for them. Like how like grueling the experience was. The training. It's like six hour

training days like for every day and people sometimes walk away with loving it and other people like walk away being like I had a horrible experience I hated my partner so that could also be to deal with like the public and like also yeah I mean she was on how long ago was she on like a million years ago you know yeah it was young it was like I think it was right after like I don't

it was like right after like Shake It Off ended or Shake It Off. What's it called? Shake It Up. Shake It Up. Sorry, Shake It Up. Shake It Up was ended, I think. It did. Because she was still doing like her, I think she was still doing like KC Undercover, which is another Disney show that she did or a Disney movie that she did. She was definitely super young when she did it. Yeah. She was 16 when she did it. She was like one of the first like dancers to go on Dancing with the Stars. Like legit. People were like pissed when she went on because people were like, she's a dancer.

Right, right, right. Meanwhile, she only knew how to really pop lock and drop it. A-list.

but like she wasn't like an a-list star at that point right no she wasn't she was not do you guys think euphoria or do you think it was before no i think it was before you know yeah i think it was um that she was a-list yeah no no no oh no i don't think till euphoria she became that's what i'm saying really yeah because like what else she was she was obviously always famous with spider-man and stuff spider-man yeah she didn't play a huge role in the first two when did the second one she was in the greatest showman yeah when did

the greatest showman come out at the same time spider-man was in 2017 the greatest showman was in 2017 when i spider-man far from home 2019 yeah she was in that one way more she wasn't in the first spider-man oh yeah 2019 and then spider-man yeah 2021 so there were a couple spider-mans

Before Euphoria. I think she was definitely a star. I think that Euphoria showed us what a true actress she really is. I think those other movies were kind of like, oh, whatever. Yeah, she can dance and sing and be a showman. Or yeah, she could be Mary Jane. But Euphoria was like, she's an actress. Yeah, I think Euphoria cemented her as like, she can really act beyond the kids show or Spider-Man, whatever. I think that people loved Zendaya before Euphoria, though.

in terms of like fashion I think she started to become like a fashion icon people were like oh my god she could be a model in that way before it was like she also had a little bit of a singing career she had like that one song that was good I don't remember it she has a song too with Labyrinth and Euphoria which is a great song no yeah she started working with La Roche and then her whole life changed I forget how it goes though I remember when that was popular though

You gotta go play me everywhere you go. Yeah, I remember that song. But you won't repeat. I don't really remember it. I'll listen to it later. Yeah. So she definitely had like. I think she's kind of, I think she's like, she's just too cool. She like is too cool. It's not that she's acting too cool. She just like is too cool for everything. Yeah. Like she's just, she's amazing. I can't ever imagine like going on a reality show and then like sitting down and being like.

I want to like re-watch myself on this show. But she was so good. So maybe she would want to re-watch. 16 is so young. Now she's so much older and watching. She's probably like, I don't want to watch myself. I would too. No, she got to the finale, but she lost. She was second. She lost like some. Kelly Pickler and Derek Hough. Really? Oh, tough. The fucking Hough's have taken over Dancing with the Stars. They're the best dancers in the world. I'm over with the Hough's.

They're the best dancers in the world. I don't know a duo that's a better dancer than the Huffs. They're so good. But Julianne, I like Julianne. It's Derek that kind of pissed me off. I love Derek. Derek always has snide comments he makes to the dancers. I'm like, Derek, like...

Get away, you huff. Derek's a judge. Oh, he's a judge? Yeah. That's why it's huff takeover now. And Julianne's like a... Julianne's a host. She does like a side host. Okay, I was going to say, if one of them was a dancer and one was a judge, that would be... No, no, no, no. Julianne's the host and Derek is the judge. Derek replaced Len Goodman, which is like a fucking big role to take on. I don't think he's doing a good job. Well, they put Bruno in his seat. He's just a hater, Derek. He's a big time hater. You need a Simon.

He's the Simon. He's definitely the Simon. He's giving like the old dude a four on the first fucking round. Like Derek. He's not there to fuck around. Give this guy a fucking. He's not there for his sympathy vote. No, but that's why people don't like American Idol anymore because it's like, oh, I just want to see everyone get complimented. I'm not going to lie. I kind of love that he's giving them fours. Yeah. Because it's like, you know what? Here's the thing. Not everyone deserves a fucking medal. I don't care that just because you're old you deserve a ten. But a four.

I root for this guy put his heart and soul into this dance a five is good enough I root for the oldies trust me because I'm like oh they get me my heart and my soul and I'm rooting for them they're so cute and you root for them but it's like

man, that was a four. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you're old. You can't move those hips. Like, what's your face over here? We all know he's not going to make it. But I guess like, you kind of do have to, the fan vote changes a lot for Dates With The Stars now because like, I feel like Harry Jowsey made it so far. He sucked last year. Yeah. But the fans, the fans have all the power. And I'm just over the huffs. Yeah. And they've taken away the judge save, which is crazy. Mm.

Like that's I can't imagine I didn't realize I did that. Like I feel like that one girl who's on it now I forget her name too. She's another one that I didn't know who she was. She's like another Disney girl who's so good. Chandler. I love her. She's from Pretty Little Liars. Like I wonder if she will get enough like fan votes to push her to the end. She's like the best.

She is a dancer too. She was a dancer in real life. I do think the dancers that are really fucking good do end up getting voted for. Yeah, because they're just so good. You can't just so good. Like there's obviously going to be the ones that make it far just because they have fans voting for them. But I do think like if you're really fucking good,

You have the grandmas at home going. That's so true. It's kind of unfair a little bit. The fan vote? I said the fan vote is massive. Like, Charlie D'Amelio and Chandler and Zendaya, like, they have 10 steps ahead of you already. Mm-hmm.

But I guess that's the name of the game. Well, that's like Eric Roberts. Eric Roberts is 1,000 years old. He wanted to be on Dancing with the Stars 25 years ago, whatever he says. And they finally let him on. He's an old man. And they're going to let him. He's getting fours. They're letting him push through, whatever. But you know that, like, I think if I'm him, I wish that I was just on 25 years ago. Because now I'm an old man on the show. I can't move like I used to. And I'm getting pity votes. Right. And you're like, oh, wait. Everyone just is voting for me because I'm cute. And they feel sorry for me. Right. And that sucks. Not because I'm rocking it.

Yeah. Like I think I would just not want to be on. Yeah. Oh, well, he's he's fulfilling his dreams. He is fulfilling his dreams. And if he feels good about it, who am I? Yeah. I'm happy for him. All right. That wraps up today's topics. Everybody follow Kelly Keegs and Gia. Do you guys want to say where you guys can follow you? Gia, you're you love posting on TikTok. You're big on TikTok. Yes, I'm big. I'm a huge on TikTok. Just Gia.Mariano on TikTok and Instagram.

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it came, not screeching to a halt, but it's just time to pick things up. You know, things have a reason for going away and a reason for coming back. Exactly. It was monumental and it had its moment, but unfortunately, we did have somebody else that was a part of it that, you know, made things, you know, a little, a little,

Dicey, a little spicy. And I don't know if the world was ready for that yet. We burned bright. We burned really bright for a very short amount of time. And, you know. And now you're back. We're like a comet that comes back every five years. Exactly. That's beautiful. Roan also hosts Son of a Boy Dad that comes out on Tuesdays and Thursdays with Lil Sass and Francis. Yes. Right. Correct. And Wednesdays, the Pat Bev podcast with Roan. Yes. You can talk basketball. Pat Bev, he is in Israel right now.

Exciting stuff. You guys are talking over Zoom now. Yeah, it's like tumultuous. I mean, it's war. Right, right. But you guys are still doing it. You're still doing it. He's doing really well. He's thriving, and he's the most positive guy ever. So that's always the type of person you want to have on your team or in a –

you know, if you're doing a podcast or in a war zone. Exactly, exactly. The type of guy you want to have around. So Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, you guys can listen to Roan because he has an episode of something coming out one of those days. At all times. And can I just congratulate you guys on your massive success? Oh my God, thank you so much.

You guys have been fucking crushing it recently. Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. Sold out shows, top in the charts, massive guests. You got to feel pretty jazzed about it. Oh, well, I'm very excited, but we like to keep it humble on this podcast as usual. We did the humble fans tour. You guys are humble as fuck, but just for one moment-

Just like consider the upside of where you guys have been and where you're going. What's like a five year chicks in the office plan? Like where are you guys? What's what's the goal? I think for Fran and I, we both have continuously said the same thing every year and it's worked out for us where we just want to continue doing this show and making it better and better each year. You know, it's like.

I wouldn't say there's one thing in five years that we definitely want to happen or definitely want to do. I think when I first started, it was like, oh, a TV show would be so cool, right? Like, oh my God, having a TV show talk show on E, like how the Lady Gang, they ended up having their podcast on E for a little bit. But now you realize that

That's changed. People love to consume things online. So if we continue to just be a big presence online, then I think our show will continue to grow. So I'd love to keep doing that. And I love the live shows. Live shows are one of my favorite things to do. I love getting on stage. I was the guest at our second ever live show. Remember that in Philly? It was so fun. You were a surprise. Surprise guest, Trent. Yes. And that was incredible. Which that motherfucker, Trent.

what's the beat of trent right now see that jar on the table yeah i mean that jar needs to be filled up it's trent's jar of broken promises and let me tell you this man it's overflowing with money at this point it's overflowing i don't i don't want to get i don't want to get too into it right now because i think trent will actually get mad but i'm fucking pissed at trent right now

Just give me a cliff note. I don't think Trent lives here anymore. Oh, definitely not. He lives on a golf course. Yeah, and he did not tell us. And so it's like our fans are always like, where's Trent? Where's Trent? Have Trent on the podcast. Trent's not here. Okay, everybody? He's not here. You guys want Trent here as much as anybody. Just as much as the fans. And I have this like a...

it's like a toxic relationship with Trent because part of me is like fuck Trent fuck Trent then whenever I find myself talking to Trent I'm like I'm so happy for you he's like the nicest guy that you could ever imagine and I just can't keep my like fuck you attitude towards him I'm always like I'm really happy you're living your dreams

Isn't it so much easier to say fuck you about someone when they're not there? Yes, and then when you're texting with them, I'm like, wow, I'm so happy for you. So maybe Trent will come back into this office, maybe not. But thank you for joining us today and thank you for your kind words. My pleasure. Honestly, it's very nice to hear. And you and Caleb used to make videos for Fran and I every time we made it to a new 100,000 on Instagram. We owe you some videos. You owe us a couple videos. I think we might have stopped at like,

400 maybe I think you guys stopped maybe at 400,000 yeah well you were getting too fucking successful it's risen it's risen a bit the next milestone will be 900,000 on Instagram so if we maybe at a million we'll get you a big one a nice one with Nick Balloons and you guys can get like special guests

in there and everything. It's a whole thing. Maybe you can have Trent in the video. That would be a special guest. If you can locate him, please let me know. He's probably in like Dubai on a golf course somewhere. Who knows? They're selling merch. They're having a great time. Last thing I want to get into before we jump into this. The Sunday sauce looked fucking amazing yesterday. Noah, how was it? Fantastic. Fantastic. I already gave my review and my grade, but

You gave the entire meal an 8.5 out of 10. Yeah. What would you give like the sauce? Oh, the sauce? I'll bump it up to like a 9.5. Sauce was incredible? Sauce was incredible. But I said I want to give room for improvement because we'll have future meals. He's hoping to be invited over many times. Well, she said that's not even your best. It's not. That is not my best thing that I make at all, in my opinion. I think I can make better, but that's like a classic. What was the...

What was on the dish? Was it like a manicotti or something like that? So I made lasagna roll-ups, which is like people did ask if it's like monaco, which I know people say manicotti. Excuse me. Um,

It's similar, but it's not exactly the same. But it's a very similar vibe with the ricotta in the middle, like chopped up spinach, you know. And the sauce from scratch? Yes, homemade sauce. Where are you getting tomatoes from? Well, so it's like homemade sauce, but you use crushed tomatoes already. I have made from tomatoes, but you basically take crushed tomatoes, the cans, like the Totorosso,

And then you let it cook for three hours, but you have to add a bunch of stuff in it. Garlic, onion, a lot of spices. I add red wine in there and then let it sit for three hours. Is this from your mom? Is this your mom's recipe? So actually I've taken my mom and Marty's mom's recipe and combined the two. So now it's mine. God damn. That's Italian as fuck. Very Italian. That's Italian as fuck. Yeah. What was the topic of conversation at the table? I know that if Tommy Smokes was there, his ass was gossip.

There's no doubt in my mind that he was gossiping. I honestly feel like we didn't gossip much, honestly. And you know me, I'm a big gossiper as well. Of course, of course. Kelly Key's there too. Yeah, right. You got Noah. You got all the gossips in one place. All powers combined. That's like Captain Planet. Honestly, there was football and baseball on, so they were kind of dominating the conversation with football, baseball, basketball.

At one point, because I don't really smoke anymore. I've talked about that a ton. But like every month or two months, like when I'm with a group of people, like I will partake. So we did yesterday. And then I just was acting like it was my first time. Because now, because like I don't anymore. So like, you know, so now it really hits.

I was acting like it was my first time. I had like two things of ice cream in my hand. I had Noah's one bag. Noah showed up to my house with one bag of Doritos. So I had that. Here's the thing. You're putting the emphasis on like one bag. Like what would have been better if I brought two bags of Doritos? It was a big bag of Doritos. Oh, I was picturing like. No, no, not like you're making it sound. Yeah, actually you're making it sound like I brought like the single serving. Like soccer practice snacks. It was like a full bag. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you know, okay. So if you're going to someone's house, right, and they're hosting, they tell you, don't worry, I got it covered. I'm making apps because I made apps as well. I'm making dinner. What are you bringing? It's a bottle of alcohol.

Kelly said she was already bringing wine. I had wine. Because I said I had wine and stuff. You also just can't bring enough wine. Wine's not going to go bad. You bring wine, you don't drink it right away. You hold on to that wine. You drink wine, then you get a backup bottle. Exactly. I think that some type of alcohol, if it's a guy that's hosting maybe a whiskey or something like that, or it depends on how refined they are, but some booze. Or Doritos. Did I say Doritos too? I think Doritos could be one of the best. Hey, you...

You were enjoying those Doritos. Yeah, after I was so high and I was like eating the Doritos. Noah showed up and the joke was he showed up an hour and a half late with one bag of Doritos. That's why it was funny. What color Dorito though? Well, then I thought that this was a credit to me that I brought the...

What is it? Nacho? The normal one. The red one. But I prefer Cool Ranch. But I was like, most people probably prefer this, so I'll do this for them and not bring the Cool Ranch. What a martyr. He's so selfless. They all seem selfless. No, we like Cool Ranch better. No, I keep joking about it and then I end up having to tell them it's totally okay. I'm going to bring over like

five bottles of wine. Yeah, just a crate of wine. Yeah, please do. More wine, the merrier. I also stopped smoking weed recently. Really? Probably about the same time. Wow. Like November of last year. Yeah, because I... I feel like I smoked weed with you like...

In Chicago. No. Well, no, I think that it's like this. So I stopped September of 2022. I completely just like, I remember the day. Like I think I got some bad weed from somewhere in the city and I just said, fuck this. I threw everything away. Threw it out? I literally threw it all in the garbage. And then for an entire year,

I didn't smoke not once. Wow. And then I think it was like around that time. I was like, we went to the Jersey Shore last summer and then we were all sitting around. I was like, okay, I'll have whatever. And then in the past year since then, it's been maybe like a handful of times, like occasional with friends and I don't crave it when I'm just like sitting around. What made you stop? It was like a similar thing. I was smoking five times a day since I was like 19. I mean, me and you would...

smoke literally in the middle of the day in the office. And then again,

And it was with Robbie Fox. Yes. And Robbie Fox, I felt bad because he was like, I should smoke too. Like, you're quitting, Rhea's quitting. And I was like, I don't care what anybody else does. It just wasn't for me anymore. And I got to the same point where I got out the other side of it. And now, like, I could smoke, like, once every, like, couple weeks or something like that and just enjoy myself. But then I tried to smoke with Robbie Fox right before a pop punk show. And it, like, threw me into a fucking vortex. Mm-hmm.

I had to go to the gym and start doing cardio to try. I was doing like body squats to try and get the weed out of my system. Exactly. Cause it makes you feel so different than it once did. It was, it used to do like barely anything. No, I mean, we were the same way because we would smoke at work together. So I remember like when I woke up, I would smoke before I took a shower. I'd smoke before I ate any meal. I'd smoke. I would smoke in the middle of the day before I recorded a podcast, before I went to bed, like,

It just got too much where now my brain is so clear and I love my brain so much now that I think back and I'm like, it really was clouded. And now I just love... That's a healthy ass thing to say. I love my brain so much. I do. I love my brain. Like, I don't even really... Like, I love wine and, you know, when I go out, I drink, but I don't even really love...

drinking like as much as I want to because I just love my brain the way it is, if that makes sense. That's positive as hell. What are you on, BetterHelp? What the hell is this? I love life. I know it's not the typical... People, I think, are so used to... Nowadays, everyone hates themselves and hates everything and everything's bad. I love my brain, so I think it's okay to say it. I think that people almost...

to hate their life because they think they get like an online set of points where it's not even only online like people feel like if you complain about things misery loves company and like I feel like people almost put it on in some ways where they're like oh the fucking job I gotta do this job I'm

I even said to my wife as I'm leaving, like, off to my fake job. Like, this is not a real job. This is like such a blessing to be able to live the life that I live. I'm in lockstep that it's like you can be positive and it can be kind of fun. Exactly. It's fun to be positive. It's fun to enjoy life. It's fun to enjoy things. It's also the same thing with the Internet, though, right? It's like...

On one hand, when years ago, when I like was depressed all the time and I was really going through a hard time mentally, people, when I talked about it, it was great that people felt like they can relate and, you know, we can talk about it and very open. Now that I do not feel that way at all and my brain feels like that was a whole other person, people then get upset.

weird about you being so happy. You abandoned us. It's like people don't also want to see people happy too. It's weird. It's a weird thing. But like I said, my brain feels good and I'm happy about it. And you don't need the weed to do it. Even though we used to have a good weed smoking crew. Buddha, Ben. Yeah, we did. Tech guy, Andrew. The fact that... Remember the volcano? Oh my god. I mean, the fact that

Robbie Fox and I, and you a lot of times, would be smoking backwoods. You'd know when because you guys would... It's just not... I'd smell it and then I'd hear the stairwell door close.

And it would be like a cartoon. It would be like a Pepe Le Pew cartoon. You could see Backwoods Smoke following someone around. I'm just like, imagine me going up to the counter like, yeah, can I get those honey backwoods? I don't know. I don't know. I just, I don't relate to it now. I do not relate to it, but it was fun. We had some great moments. All right. Well, you are a big Bravo fan and-

The biggest. Obviously, the listeners of this podcast are some of the biggest Bravo fans as well. I do love and appreciate your love for Bravo. So before we get into this Bravo bracket, and of course, this is the Weekly Watch Report, so we will be talking about things we watched this week, even though we went on a little tangent. Yes. I want to ask you some questions about Bravo and where your takes are at right now with some of the shows. Fair. You're a Vanderpump Rules watcher, lover. Yes. Do you think this show should end?

I think Vanderpump Rules made it so hard for not only Vanderpump Rules to be able to get through the drama, but also top that season because everybody thinks that they're reality stars now. And I think across the entire Bravo universe, almost every franchise is looking for a Scandavol. And they're like, what do we have that can get to this level? And it's almost unattainable. That's some of the juiciest things

Stuff that will ever happen on reality show on any reality show ever and it was perfect and it was so fun to watch and it was horrific to watch and that's why people it had like America by the balls like people were I mean men women everywhere gay straight doesn't matter people were loving it.

I want to see what happens with the show, though. I still want to see what happens with their lives. I guess they have, like, spinoffs, and you could always do spinoffs. I just want to keep on watching, just with the knowledge that it's not going to get to that level again. Yeah, so I understand that my take on it is that, like, I think that it's...

First of all, I think Sandoval saved the show. So I think it's a very confusing thing for one, the ego of Sandoval, because in his mind, he's like, well, I saved this show. If I didn't do any of this, none of this, the show would have been over. These people wouldn't have gotten this fame. But then you're also going to have Ariana, who I think has exceeded the show at this point. She's hosting Love Island, the biggest season of Love Island. She's on Broadway dancing with the stars. She's conquered it all. And when I look at her, I don't even think Vanderpump anymore.

And then you have Lala and Sheena who are so Vanderpump heavy that in my eyes, I'm like, maybe we just say goodbye to Vanderpump as a whole. We end it. Let them go off and do the valley. Wow. Let them graduate up to the valley. Not even graduate up. I don't know what, I don't know if you would graduate up or just move on. You just literally move on to the valley. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that could make a lot of sense that it is a natural progression for them to have a different place to go. But it's like, at first, I sat next to Sheena at dinner a couple nights ago. Did you? Very exciting. Did you say hi to her? I didn't. I was too... Nervous? I was too nervous. Who was she with? Um...

Not her husband. Not Brock. Not Brock. I think just another guy that's like friends with him on the show or something like that. Scandal. No, it wasn't that because regardless. But I think that...

I still want to know what's going to happen with their next relationships. And even though it might be like a little bit less exciting, like the character of Tom Sandoval is still, there's meat on the bone. And I think there's almost like a schadenfreude. Like we like to see when something goes wrong with someone that I think that he thought that he was going to go on that bootcamp show and it would be like, everything's cool. That he would just be like, I did some pushups and it was hard for me and I was outside. Like,

I've atoned for my sins. But I think that there's so much more atoning for him to do. And also, like, you could tell that he's not, like, sorry about it. Not at all. He just is, like, going through the motions. And so I...

In this perfect world, if they go and graduate to this next franchise or matriculate onto the next landing spot for them, what happens to him in your world? What happens to Tom Sandoval? Where do we get to watch him? He goes out to pasture and dies? Yeah, we don't have to watch him. But there's still an appetite for him.

Because he's such a villain. I understand what you're saying. Yes, he's on tour still probably. So, yeah, if you want to go get tickets to his show, you can go watch him. No, I want to go... I want to watch DJ... James Kennedy. James Kennedy. Tom Sandoval's a liar. Did you see that...

Jax Taylor talked about Sandoval recently because of Jax Taylor's divorce with Brittany. You're following all of that. That's happening. He said that Sandoval has reached out to him the most. They now talk three, four times a week. And when I see Jax Taylor and Tom Sandoval in the same sentence, I'm like, we have the biggest scumbags on earth together with those two. And it does bring me back to the beginning days of Vanderpump when they really were the scummiest of scum. And the fact that anybody was ever surprised that,

that Sandoval did any of this. He did the same move twice. Were you surprised at all? And did you like Sandoval at all? I don't really watch that show. Because I hated him. I like one dude that's ever been on that show and that's Bo. Stassi's man. He's basically the only good guy. Other than that, it's all just the worst people ever and they...

they just take turns topping themselves. At one point, James Kennedy was looking like the most rational, level-headed guy of all of them. And it's like, how could this guy, and it's a testament, I guess, to his growth, but after everything that he went through, that he winds up having the moral high ground in the situation, it's the Olympics for the worst personalities ever. And they're always competing at a really high level. And I think that's what makes it fun to watch. That's what...

LA and Hollywood and that area of the country is to me. They cast the show perfectly. I'm not ready for it to end. Wow, that is a bold opinion and I do appreciate your opinion on it because I've had such the opposite opinion. You just want to be done with it? I'm just like, give it a rest. And I don't even think it's because of...

It's more like what you're describing is that they all are like thinking they have some moral high ground above each other and they don't. I think they need to go back to being like, you know what? None of us are better than the other person. Let's just dive into that. And then you have a show. It's the like, we're better than like when Lala's like, we're filming. Ariana is not filming this and that. And I was like, none of you are better. Like,

It's it's what you're talking about but I'm thinking about it in the opposite way of like they need to just shed that and then just go right back into filming. Yeah just stop pretending that you're a good people at all. Right. Just openly say we are fucking bad people. Here's a show because then I'm watching the whole thing.

It was crazy how at the end of last season, they flipped it on Ariana being like, you're actually the bad person. I was like, what am I watching right now? And then you did have some people buying into that where they were like, you're right, Ariana, because they kept saying we film our real lives. And Ariana was like, well, my real life, I do not associate with Tom Sandoval. So if we're filming our quote unquote real lives, then why would I film with him? Because...

That's not my real life, which I understood that point of it. I think there's also a thing that happens when someone is the good guy or the bad person on reality TV for too long that there's almost a watcher fatigue of that same storyline. So it's like, okay, she is...

obviously the good person in this situation and it's so shoved in our face that people might be ready for a little bit of a turn that people might be like rooting on her downfall and that's what happens with the internet with tv even just kind of mentioned before like when you're happy people are like oh no it's like they see ariana thriving and they're like oh

Her star is shining too bright now. How can we find a way to be on Sandoval's side? Well, regardless, we know even if they continue, I'm still going to watch, even if I'm saying that they shouldn't. You do watch Real Housewives of New Jersey? Of course. Love the additions to the cast. This season of Real Housewives of New Jersey, they didn't end up doing a reunion because they said it was so tumultuous that they couldn't even be in the same room anymore.

I didn't realize that that's why that happened. Yeah, they were like, they can't even be in the same room. They were throwing drinks at each other. They're cursing each other out. They're saying that people's husbands have man boobs. That was nasty. Some of them have some of the greatest but most despicable lines I've ever heard on this show.

Do you think this show needs a change up? I thought that that, I thought that they kind of got some new blood in there and then that maybe was the change up. And I applaud the new women on the show that they weren't afraid to mix it up and, uh,

get into these arguments but it's also like when you're on a real housewives franchise it's almost like your worth is built on how much you can mix it up and how many like and like can you get a drink thrown on you can you tell someone they look like shit by the way you look like fucking shit like that's what exactly thrive off of and that's like it and

sometimes they'll be like someone's friend on a couple episodes and it's obviously their tryout to see if they can be toxic enough to live up to the standard that a storied franchise like New Jersey has set up.

I don't think that there's ever an excuse for them not to have a reunion show. If people are so toxic they can't be in the same room, great. Make it a fucking six-part reunion show. Isn't that what we want? And let's sink our teeth into it. This was never meant to be a kumbaya show. And I'm pretty sure that Andy Cohen has built a...

empire on the fact that nobody gets along with each other why are we why are we expecting anybody to get along with each other right we don't want it to be so okay that they can sit in the room with each other it's actually better if they can't stand being in the room with each other that's what's going to give us the explosive reunion that we all want and then they do like you said six parts and we got to wait we eat uh week to week meanwhile just put it all at once i would sit there for six hours and one night like that's my big thing it's like

The parts, just give it to me all in one night. I'll sit there for six hours straight and watch the entire thing. I don't like the week-to-week breakup. Let me ask you a question. You live in New Jersey? Yes, I do.

What if Andy Cohen comes to you with a godfather offer and was like, we'd like you to be on our show? Absolutely not. Why? I like my sanity. Didn't I just tell you how much I like my brain? Yes. I'd like to keep it that way. This would destroy your brain probably. Yeah, I wouldn't like that. I mean, would my family's on Long Island, would my family be...

fantastic on a show like this? Yes. Yes, they would. Me, not so much. Them, yes. Would your parents do it? You know how much my parents love Housewives. They do? Oh my God. If my dad can come on this show and talk about the Housewives, that would be his dream. But...

No, they can't. They would love it and they would do it, but they can't. Which franchise do you think that you would thrive most in and which one do you think you would get along best with the women? That's a good question. Gosh, I mean...

that's really obviously for jersey for me it's like whenever i see melissa gorga i feel like i'm seeing my aunt so i feel like i'd be comfortable in the atmosphere of them screaming and yelling at each other like that would not throw me off and i feel like maybe they look at me like um you know their younger cousin or like whatever i feel like i could i could get them to like me yes

I think Beverly Hills is so opposite of like how I was raised and like... There's so much money that they have. There's so much money, like generational wealth going on there that they would like spit on me if they saw me. Yeah, you couldn't even be able to fit in if you didn't have like a vintage Chanel dress. No, I think they would like hear my accent and just go...

And then that would be it. You're trash. Yeah, exactly. It's like you never see the Jersey Housewives and the Beverly Hills Housewives associating with each other. Oh, of course not. Even at BravoCon, they probably have a Berlin Wall between the two of them. Well, this leads me right into my bracket, which is a Real Housewives bracket. And the point of this bracket is the person you end up with

So this is way different from just...

they're a dinner guest because like for a one-time dinner guest it's like yeah be a be a psychopath every time you go to dinner they're there at your table they're always at your table oh my god and i'd love to hear your opinions about each person why you're picking them okay okay okay how many people are in this bracket 12 12 there are 12 people in this bracket you'll pick one okay let's start off

And this will show where your alliance lies. Okay, and if I have to Google a name, it's because I'm very just face-oriented whenever I watch Bravo. I'm locked in on who these people are, but I don't... You got it. I'll confuse names. Melissa Gorga or Teresa Giudice? You are picking a side right off the bat here.

If it's one dinner, it's not one Teresa Giudice. If it's the rest of my life, I think Melissa Gorga is a little bit more even keel. Yeah.

Just a little bit more. Just she flies with less turbulence. I do understand the one dinner, though, you want it to be Teresa Giudice for entertainment purposes. Oh, my God. It's like being in the splash zone at SeaWorld where you know you're getting a martini splash on your face. Once, that's fine. It's like exciting. Right. If you were getting a dirty martini in your face every dinner for the rest of your life, probably less ideal. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. It's exhausting.

Okay. Bethany Frankel or Lisa Vanderpump? This is tough. Um,

My wife hates how much I like Bethany Frankel. Do you like her TikToks? Is that what it is? I liked her before TikTok. And now I like all of her TikToks. I'm like, oh, what does she think about Michael Rubin's white party? Or her chicken salads. Yeah, or like the best places to eat in Paris or whatever the fuck she's on. It's going to be Bethany Frankel. I just appreciate her as a businesswoman.

She is a very smart businesswoman. And I can't decide if I fucking hate her TikToks or love them. I've talked about this before. She just... She started doing these chicken salad reviews. And the way that she eats the chicken salad grosses me out so much. The chicken salad is...

falling out of her teeth and her mouth, but yet I'm watching every video of her eating the chicken salad. You know, she's got me. She's got me hooked. She definitely has me hooked as well, but that's also not to disparage Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa Vanderpump is the matriarch. You know, she's built something beautiful, and she just lets her... She has like an Andy Cohen vibe where she just can let all of her children fight with one another. Her little minions. Now, now, minions, don't fight. I would love to be at dinner with Joe Gorga if I had the...

Oh, Joe Gorga. Chance to swap him in. No, one dinner with Joe Gorga. I do not want to be in. He would have so many inspirational quotes. His Instagram is incredible. His Instagram posts are amazing. Yeah, I mean. Does he have someone else editing those? He has to have a Noah. We have to ask him. I don't know. Some of them look like he's just doing it. I think it's him. Really? I think it's Joe. He just has like an app? Listen, Joe is exciting and entertaining. I don't know about every dinner.

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Margaret Josephs or Kyle Richards? Margaret or Kyle. I think I have to go with Kyle. I think that I am just curious about her new love life. I was just going to say so we can finally get to the bottom of it. Right. Is it real? Is it for show? Is she...

She gay, she's straight. What's going on with Mauricio? What's going on with the kids? Right, the amount of dinners that you have that you would have to get to the bottom of it at some point. We would dig in. She probably wouldn't be an open book right away, but we'd start with the tattoos. Right. The matching tattoos. Start easy. And you're going to be spending a lot of dinners together, so eventually she's going to have to open up. It's forever dinners. And she's probably picking up the tab for some of these dinners because, I mean, I guess both of them are going to be paid. But Kyle, I think would be, she seems kind of normal.

Is that crazy? No, I have always liked Kyle Richards. And then I've always felt crazy for liking Kyle because I feel like people don't. Yeah. But I really liked Lisa and Kyle together. So when they ended up getting into a fight, that left me confused. Is Kyle's sister Kathy? And Kathy Hilton. Kathy Hilton. That's what's crazy to me that she turned out

And then Kathy Hilton is like maybe the least normal person. Like she would pick up this and be like, what do people do with these? Yes. Kathy Hilton is a strange woman. Strange and I think a touch of...

Evil? Yeah, maybe evil or maybe like an undiagnosed, like some kind of like if she were born today, they might have like a name for what's going on. But like she just was born, you know, 50 years before. Yeah, I mean, have you ever watched the Paris Hilton documentary? No. Like her life? No. You're just like she...

I don't remember exactly, but it's like, obviously she just didn't believe anything that was happening with Paris Hilton. And like a lot of stuff was happening with her while she was at school. And like Kathy Hilton sent her away and it was like not good. She sent her away. You don't know about. Oh my God. No, it's dark. It's dark. Really? Yeah. It's not good. It's not good. Too much for right now. Too much for right now. Okay. Sutton or Dorit?

Wow. This is tough. I like to read better than Sutton. I think that Sutton, uh, name them. Sutton is interesting to me. Sutton is like, uh, it's fun to watch on reality TV. Uh,

I sat close to Sutton out at dinner recently as well. What's going on? I'm in the right orbit. And I was with my wife and she was like, and then Sutton dirty looked her. She like gave her a dirty look for like looking over. It's like you're out in public. You obviously want to be in the public eye. You can't get mad. She wasn't like taking pictures. She just like glanced at her and got a dirty look right away. Oh my God.

God, fuck her. For that reason, Sutton is off the list. Damn. I also, I like to read, but I would like, I would, if she's going to be at dinner every time, bring back the British accent. I want the British accent back. I enjoyed the British accent when she was throwing it around. So obviously people were confused when she had this accent that came out of nowhere. Yeah.

After I went to London just for a week in the summer, I couldn't stop talking. Obviously, I just couldn't. Every conversation I had, especially there, there was one night I was drunk and I was being so annoying. I just couldn't stop talking in an accent. And I was like, I understand where Doree was coming from. It just stuck. But I don't think she knew she was doing it, though. You probably were doing it to be funny and fun. What did Marty say when you kept on doing the British accent?

He just let me do my thing. I could tell that it was probably getting very annoying, but he wasn't going to tell me. He would try to do it and I was like, yours is so bad. He'd be like, you think yours is good? It's not any better. Did his sound like a Long Island with it? Yes. That's so fucking funny. Damn, I want to hear his British accent now. Yeah, we have to get him to do it because it's just...

I wind up doing the same thing whenever I go somewhere and like

My wife and I went to South Africa last summer. And then we went to Iceland this past year. And I couldn't do the Icelandic accent. So I went back to doing the South African accent. You're like, this is the one I've practiced enough. This is a good one I have. It doesn't make sense now. Everyone always has one. Weirdly enough, when I was still doing acting...

The one role, so I was getting tired of like from eight years old up until I want to say between 16 and 18, I kind of dwindled off because I was in high school and whatever. But this is kind of the story that led to that. I was auditioning for endless TV shows and movies like multiple times a week. It took up a lot of my life.

And I would always get like maybe a call back or, you know, you you're so close. They always get very weird feedback. And I had this audition. I was.

just ended ninth grade. I was going into 10th grade and the audition was for somebody with a Russian accent. And I had never had an audition for any other accent besides like either New York or I had to go to a speech pathologist to get rid of my Long Island accent when I was like really young. To get a non-regional dialect. Yeah. So I had like a Midwestern accent.

accent and I had to do all these works worksheets I had a tape recorder I'd have to record myself instead of instead of coffee I'd have to say coffee or instead of softball I'd say softball like I had to do all these things because I was like 10 years old talking like this and they were like this is crazy she's like 4 years old in a 10 years old body so I had never had to do like an accent like that

and i just started practicing this russian accent and i went into this audition and i fucking nailed it like i don't know what happened but i nailed it and i left the audition and i said to my parents i said if i don't get this i'm done like i am quitting acting like i can't do this anymore i had just started high school like i was just done with it the next day i gotta call that i got the part you got the part dead serious i gotta call that i got the part

my high school that I went to was um it's a private catholic school so the way the testing was made up was different the end of the year tests count for 50 percent of your grade for the entire year they're called comps so there's six days in a row they count for 50 percent of your grade the entire year it was going to start filming when comps took place so my dad called the school and was like hey she got a part blah blah and they were like that's great but if she misses these comps she's gonna have to go to summer school my dad was like well she won't

be able to go to summer school, she'll be filming. And they were like, okay, well then she's going to have to go to public school. And I had never been to public school. And I, you would have thought that I was getting my house ripped away. I was like, I can't go to public school. I've never been to public school. Like I, I just was like, no, I can't.

do it and I just gave it up and I think it was the best decision that I made because I'm here now because you got a good Catholic education right of course because you were close to the Lord for four years of course no but I think I ended up in the right places where I was supposed to and I kind of took a break

from that in high school, but it was the Russian accent. I don't know, but what if you had gone on to be like the Russian Zendaya or something like that? Something crazy, yeah. No, I mean, it was a Disney movie. It was called The Contest, and I'm not even sure it was like that big of a role, but it was Russian. I don't even know. Did you ever watch the movie to see who got your part? No, I didn't. I never watched it. Can we hear just...

some of that i don't even know a little bit just for i don't even know how to do it that's what's mind-boggling to me is like i don't even know how i ended up with that russian accent like i would need like a word like i don't even i need like a sentence to say say uh they were going to send me to public school no i can't do it i can't do it i can't do it i can't do it i just know like they were going to send me to public school like i'm just thinking

thinking about me like 15 or however 14 years old i'm like doing a russian accent getting the part but that would have been sick it would no but but everything happens for everything happens for a reason i wasn't meant to play that part clearly right um okay moving on sorry we got good tangent yeah uh so dorit is my answer dorit's your answer garcelle or dolores i i think i'm going with

I think I'm going with Garcelle. I enjoy Dolores' storyline. I feel like she's kind of been an independent woman. So Garcelle...

Good head on her shoulders.

And it's probably hard to be like a late addition to a cast when they're not doing something brand new. So I'd say Garcelle. Yeah. I'll go Garcelle. You're not getting like, fuck you at dinner with Garcelle. Yes, she's ladylike. Yeah, Dolores, you'd be getting like, oh, fuck yourself, fuck you. And then like, okay, let's eat. And I like Dolores, but I also, and I hate that I have to say this, but I feel like there's, she's like...

how do I say this without being rude to her? As if she's like listening in. She might. She might hear it. Right. But like there's other like big stars on her season, you know, that I like her personality. I'd like to see a little bit more of her own personality instead of like kind of falling into the cookie cutter of the cast personality. Right. And her storyline of her just like being friends with

frank her ex-husband right that's what so that's what i was talking about that frank is like is like doing the renovations on her new town home or whatever we're like he's living there or not living there i can't even follow can never really follow what's going on with their relationship all i know is like they're friends but i love frank yep if frank was if frank was on the table you just pick frank yeah frank or joe gorga

that's fucking tough maybe frank though i don't know those guys they have a way of staying in incredible shape you just wanted to get their tips i just want some gym tips or if it's like you know supplements or performance enhancers anything that they have whatever they're doing right um jenna lions or luann jenna lions or luann

If it's one, this is another one where if it's one, I'm going with the Countess. I'm going with Luann. If it's forever, I think Jenna Lyons is pretty normal.

And I think that everybody on this show seems like they like admire her or like they don't want to cross her or like that. And she also hasn't had that many big blow ups or I don't know. She just is an interesting character. Even the way that she was talking to on this. Did you watch the first episode? She's like talking to her like new girlfriends, like mom. It was like looking at shoes. I don't know. She just looks like.

She seems normal. She doesn't seem that toxic. She's in New York. She probably has great taste as far as like where to go out and everything like that. Didn't love her dress the first episode, though, if I'm going to be honest. I mean, I'm sure she doesn't love my outfit. If we're talking about her fashion choices. If we're talking about her fashion choices. She was calling it something crazy, too.

I don't even want to... I don't even know if I can say it. That big pink dress that she was wearing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you think of it? I need to remind myself of... Hold on. It was a big pink dress with a single red ribbon on it. And it was...

Oh, yes, yes. It was a little bit shocking. You know what this reminds me of? The twins in that movie. Oh my God, the scary movie. Is that what it is? When they're dressed? Yes. That's what... Riding like the tricycles. It could be. There are some creepy twins in The Shining. I think I'm talking about the twins.

yes that's exactly what i'm talking about yeah shining twins it's like a little bit that dress is what that's what that reminds me of and honestly usually jenna lyons is fashion is beyond reproach so i don't but maybe hopefully she won't hopefully she won't be wearing that to dinner yeah um she seems like a one-time wearer yeah all right moving on we're gonna do ramona singer verse brin so we got old school new york verse new school new york

I think that Ramona is one of the all-time goats. But I think what we're seeing from Brynn, I think that she might be next up. You think so? I think that Brynn is a certified shitster. Let me make sure I know who I'm talking about with Brynn. Brynn is like the only like... Oh no, Uba's beautiful too. Brynn is like the flirty one. They thought she was like flirting with the husband. Yep. I'm talking about who I thought I'm talking about.

Brynn is not afraid to start things up with the ladies. I think that she's funny, but also I think that when, for example, at the reunion last year when Uba's like kind of coming at her, she's like, I'll fucking... She said something crazy. She was like, I eat people for fucking lunch. She said some crazy shit like that. I was like, oh my God, what a fucking psychopath. She's not afraid. In the best way possible. I think she has an interesting story. I think that...

Have we even dove into her dating life at all? No. I'm very confused and interested in her dating life. I'm very intrigued. Right. Oh, wait. Or someone went on a show and called her a sugar baby or something like that? Yeah, I think that... But they didn't even actually say she's a sugar baby. I don't know. But I think that there's upside there, I think is my point, that we can find out more about her dating life. I think that she's interesting. Potentially set her up.

with people set her up I think she'll have some high profile romances or explosive breakups I think all of that stuff could be in her future I think wherever Andy Cohen found her I think that he did a hell of a job and you're going to be picking her for this I'm going with Brynn okay let's

Last up, and then we'll go from the top. Okay. Danielle from Real Housewives of New Jersey or Uba, New School, New York. I like Uba a lot. I think Uba is very interesting. She is the lightning rod that her season needs. She'll fight with people. She'll get pissed off about losing her phone or whatever. But I think Danielle is similar to Brynn. She'll be able to take New Jersey on and kind of put New Jersey on her back the way she rode for her man. Yeah. Yeah.

And I also didn't understand why they were going after her man. Yeah. It must be something that he's like, they found out that that was an insecurity. Yeah, they must have been. And they just kind of like, I don't even think he had man boobs. And then he's pretty in shape. Like a hot photo shoot or whatever. They were, they were loving it. Honestly, that interaction between them made me, it was so endearing of them both as a couple that I went Instagram, followed Instagram, followed, followed them both because I wasn't already following.

That's influential. Yeah, they literally influenced me. Wow, that's big. When they make a move that's like, I want to follow them, that means they did something big. Yes, exactly. And he's at like 15,000 followers. I'm like, I want to build a personal relationship with him. You're in there early. That's what I mean. I'm ground floor. I want to be behind him. You kind of bought in with Bo.

Oh, big time. With Vanderpump. Bo's my doll. No, you guys are like friends. Yeah, he's my doll. You bought in early. He's the man. So you're going Danielle? I'm going Danielle. All right. Let's start from the top. This is a great bracket so far. This is a fun bracket. And I like...

I like your reasoning because typically this would be more like the crazier people, but you're going to have to be going to dinner with them every time. This is dinner forever. This is dinner forever. This is not dinner one time. Dinner one time, Teresa Giudice, she wins that. It's a combination of entertainment, someone being rational, someone being normal enough of a human being that I could like. You can also maybe gain something, get tips. Right, exactly. Business moves. The exchange of good information. Exactly. High level ideas. Drama gossip. Drama gossip. I also love those. Yes.

Okay, Melissa Gorga versus Bethany Frankel. I'm going to go with Bethany Frankel. Bethany Frankel, goat. I'm going to have to kill her off at some point, though, because my wife is not going to kill me. She's going to shut this off. She's going to be like, enough. Especially if it's dinner. If the two of us are going to dinner and Bethany Frankel's there every time, she's going to get her the fuck out of here. If I don't get her the fuck out of here. No matter what happens, Bethany's losing next round. She's getting killed at some point. Kyle Richards or Dorit?

This is just another absolute classic. Just titans of industry, matriarchs of the franchise. I think I'm going to go with Kyle. Good choice. Even though I love Dorit. Dorit is, you know, she's been through some trauma.

I'm going Kyle with this. Yeah, I'm going Kyle as well. I want to get down to the bottom of what's going on. I want to hear about Mauricio. I want to hear about the kids. Right. But Dorit just got divorced. Fuck.

See, that's still interesting to me. But does Mauricio, does he do Selling Sunset? No, he did. Or Buying Beverly Hills? Million Dollar Listing. No, no, Million Dollar Listing. He did Buying Beverly Hills. Buying Beverly Hills. Yes, and that's over now. Oh, really? It's not coming back. See, because that also gave me a whole new window into his life, how he interacts with the people that work for him. And it's like, oh, interesting. These young ladies working for you and...

There's been rumors about Mauricio for a long time Really? See I don't dabble in the rumors I just see what I see on the screen And I try to extrapolate from there Garcelle vs Jenna Lyons

I'm going with Jenna Lyons on this one. I think that Jenna Lyons is a fashion icon. She's a cool woman. She's a cool woman. You can't really... You can't say anything about her. You can't argue with that. Am I about to have two gay women in my final four? Let's go. You're interested. You're interested. I just want to know what the fuck is going on here. You want to know more. Brynn versus Danielle. This is going to be the hardest one. And I'm going to say Danielle just because...

I just went gentle lines. I don't want to be too New York heavy. I think you're showing your bias being in New York right now. Exactly. I think Danielle is interesting. She also has these streaks of old New Jersey in her where it's not like New York. It's almost like this whole new cast has a whole new way of looking at things and a whole new disposition about them. And she Danielle is like,

She would fit in. She's like cut from that same cloth. She's got her Jersey roots. She doesn't talk to her dad. Like there's, you know what I mean? Like there's still, there's still roots in there. Exactly. Bethany Frankel versus Kyle Richards. Now you said. Bethany Frankel's out of here.

for the sake of your wife she had a great run but uh uh it's uh kyle and and you know i enjoy kyle i wouldn't have guessed coming into this that she would be in the final like this but good for kyle she's good upset scrappy yeah uh jenna lions versus danielle

Are you going to do battle of Kyle and Jenna in the end? I know, and have them, maybe just have them at dinner together and see if any sparks fly. See what happens there. I can't put them in those situations, especially knowing their girlfriends. I don't want to have them. So I'll go with Danielle on this one. Okay. And now Kyle Richards versus Danielle. I know my answer on this one. Is Danielle, can her husband come to like every fifth dinner or something like that?

No. Then I'll go with Kyle. Kyle is the correct choice here. I'll go with Kyle. I think Kyle Richards is the correct choice because you're going to be getting...

There's just so much. Kyle's been around a lot longer. She knows the Hollywood stuff. She knows the Hilton stuff. She knows the early Real Housewives drama. She knows the new Real Housewives drama. She has daughters who are of age. They probably have their own new drama that they're bringing to the table. And if you think about it this way, Kyle has been in the game for years and years and years. Like you said, she knows all the drama. Danielle, if she's spending all her dinners with you guys...

What kind of drama is she going to give to the Jersey Housewives franchise? Kyle is going to bring a class, but also a gossip that as our third, my wife...

Me, Kyle, that's a good eternity of dinners that we're going to be having. Gossip, money, probably pick up the tab. Pick up the tab. I would feel bad if I asked Danielle to pick up the tab. She's doing well, but at the same time, she's still building something. She's on Jersey, not Beverly Hills. Right. If she was on Beverly Hills, it'd be a little bit different. She's probably a millionaire. She's doing great. But there's a different, we talked about it, it's a different tax bracket out in Beverly Hills. It is. It is.

Absolutely different. This was a fun exercise. I would have never thought Kyle would have made it that far. Good for her. No, honestly, I'm happy for Kyle because not a lot of people are picking Kyle right now. They're upset with her for the past season. They don't think she's showing her life, but she's been through a lot. She's going through a divorce, Mauricio, the love of her life. Now she's on to something new, I think. Something new. A rock and roll gal. Yeah. She's getting tattoos.

She's doing it all. Now she's going to dinner with you and your wife every week. Wow, she's made it. She's made it very far. That was a fun bracket. I like these brackets. I'm glad that you watch so much Housewives and Bravo that you were able to participate in a bracket like that. When I first started dating my wife and she was watching these shows, I was like, you got to turn this off. This is rotting your brain. This is going to color your relationships with all the people that...

you're friends with and then like by one season into that I was like can you believe that fucking the Countess is going out to fucking like you're asking to go to the Countess shows you're like can we go to the cabaret surprise surprise Christmas gift whatever

Oh, man. Well, I love talking Bravo and I feel like it's kind of taken... Thank you for giving me a safe outlet for it. Yeah, of course. It's always a safe place. Just like this used to be a safe place for trying to talk about The Bachelor in which he doesn't anymore. This can be a safe place for you to talk about Bravo and all things. And it's taken a little bit of a lull because once Summer House, you know, the season ends, Vanderpump season ends, Jersey season... All the seasons end and...

Let's not forget about Southern Charm. No, we can't forget about Southern Charm, which I only started watching recently, which is funny because I... Weren't you friends with all those people? Yes, and I broke the news to Craig

this past year that I had never watched Southern Charm before and he was stunned and then I started watching it. He's been on the show to promote it like five times. No, literally since 2017 he's been on this show promoting Southern Charm and I never watched it until this past year. I remember it like Austin came into the old New York office and I was like, hey, guilty pleasure, I'd like to watch your show. He's like, why's it gotta be guilty? Yeah.

good point and then i saw craig and i was like hey i'd say it's a guilty pleasure that i watch your show but i don't feel any guilt about it you used it you you reversed you reversed and they didn't even know they're two very friendly guys they're they're great you would get along with them really well i think that they're very nice guys yeah um it is true though whenever we do have a bravo guest come in here you are the most excited person in the room

I swear to God, I watch all of them. And it's nice because fall for a guy like me brings football season. I'm obsessed with football. But it also brings all of these Real Housewives franchises. Even the ones you don't watch like Salt Lake and Potomac. I watch Salt Lake. You do? Yeah, I watch Salt Lake. I mean, hell of a season that I think people are just... It's just more just like what's going to happen now that they...

kicked her off the show yes Jen Shah yeah well the one who brought the one who had the burner accounts oh yes the burner account what was the name of her burner accounts they were so it was such a funny it was so funny see time and the news moves so fast the

account was reality von teese reality von teese incredible what the fuck is wrong and it was monica monica reality von teese what a ridiculous thing to name uh where did she get it where did she where does the words come from i think it's like like teese you know like and like von trap like yeah reality von teese genius it's

but really despicable and scary at the same time. Why do you kick her off for that? Like give her like, you know, like a heroes versus villains Bravo show or some kind of spinoff where she could just be messy or whatever. She should have been on traitors. She should have been on traitors. Cause that's a traitor. That's a true traitor right there.

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that just added some new flair to my jingle i know the people who hate the jingle are gonna love that people are it wasn't monday oh it wasn't monday so it's weekly watch on monday it wasn't monday um okay i'm gonna start off with i watched nobody wants this the new rom-com show with kristen bell and adam brody loved it absolutely ate this show up i'm

I'm giving it an A because it's a classic, just like feel good rom-com. Makes you believe in like the good, you know? Like Adam Brody, he's not a bad guy. Like he's just trying to tell Kristen Bell he's a good guy and he cares about her. And she, you know, she's used to toxic. She can't give herself away, but she does with him. And I'm giving it a solid A. It's a full show or a movie? Show. Ten episodes. Is it ten? Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I watched 8 to 10. I finished it. I like the ending. People were giving me shit for giving it a B-minus last week. I thought that was good, but I'll give it a B-plus this week. I thought it ended very strong. I like the ending. I don't want to spoil it. I was just about to say what happened. Yeah, no. And if it wasn't, no offense to Kristen Bell. If it wasn't Kristen Bell, I think it'd be in the A range for me. I just am not. She doesn't do it for me. He's just not Kristen Bell then. I just don't like Kristen Bell. I'm sorry. Why?

I'm trying to think of anything I've liked. I don't hate her. I just don't love her. I like Kristen Bell as an actress. Like, I don't... What is the gripe with Kristen Bell? I don't know. There's just something about her... You don't think she's cute enough? No, that's not it. Wow. No, I can't believe you're saying you don't think she's cute enough. No, there is just... That's toxic of you. I just can't... I don't know. For some reason, I can't, like, feel bad for her. I just...

Well, I don't know if this character is the type of character where you necessarily feel bad for her. You don't root for her? I don't root for her, definitely. Is it really like, I don't even know where this is coming from with you. Did you see her in something else? No, maybe. I'm trying to think. I just looked her up. Like, I mean, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I guess like I liked her in that. She's a hateable character in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Yeah, she cheats on her or she leaves her man. Yeah.

In Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, so maybe you got caught. Maybe she's such a good actor that you got caught in her character. I wouldn't say she's playing like a likable character in this show. Like she's kind of like a little bit unlikable. I think there are... She's very like influencer-y, like, you know, like in that realm. I don't... I wouldn't say she's unlikable. I think that there are...

women that can relate to her character in the sense of like they're always chasing like a toxic guy and they never want to fully give themselves away and then she finally does with the right man. I'm just thinking of like other actresses that I could feel like if this was Ana de Armas I'd be like A. What? It's because you're attracted to her? Well that's I'm attracted to both of them. I mean I couldn't see Ana de Armas in this role at all. Not even a little bit. Like should I pick another blonde or

Like, I mean, the fact... Oh, you know, if this was on a day... If this was Sidney Sweeney, this would get an A+. That's like what that was. I'm with you there. No. Um...

I'm trying to think of someone else in her world, but... Kristen Bell and Ana de Armas are not in the same world, in my opinion. Is it like a comedy? It's like a rom-com. Yeah. Ana de Armas? She's more of a serious actress. Yeah. I'm like, Scarlett Johansson, she would have killed it. Even Cameron Diaz, like...

Cameron Diaz. Jennifer Aniston. Like, give me any of those people. Like, no. And honestly, I don't hate Kristen Bell. I just, she just doesn't do it for me. I thought Kristen Bell was great in this. And I still give this a B+. That's how good this was. Okay. I don't love Kristen Bell and I still, like, enjoyed the show. Scarlett, you threw Scarlett Johansson into a Netflix rom-com. Natalie Portman.

Reese Witherspoon. What did you say? Blonde actresses? No, I mean, Jennifer Aniston. Is she blonde? Jennifer Aniston is too old for this role. Is she? How old is Kristen Bell? They've got to be the same age. I mean, this role is not... Kristen Bell is...

And all right, Jennifer, what's the premise of the show? So it's about two sisters that have a podcast. Well, do you know who Aaron and Sarah Foster are? Aaron Foster? Aaron Foster and Sarah Foster, David Foster's daughters. So Aaron Foster is like loosely based on her life.

She ended up marrying a Jewish guy and converted for him. And her and Sarah have a podcast and they have a big brand. And I mean, they are David Foster's daughters in the show. They are not the daughters of someone famous. But in this show, the two women have a podcast. It's like, I guess,

I think it's a well-known podcast. There's even a Call Her Daddy joke in there. Very specific reference to Call Her Daddy. Yeah, very specific Call Her Daddy reference in there about her $60 million deal. And she dates, you know, toxic guys and has bad relationships and she talks about it on the podcast and then she ends up meeting a

a rabbi who is a great guy and he really likes her. His name is Noah. And his name is Noah. And, um, no wonder you gave it a B plus. It's a classic tale of, of two people falling in love, but I don't think Jennifer Aniston is playing this role. A podcaster and a rabbi. Yeah. Got it. Jennifer Aniston. Very close to home. How about the representation? My grandpa, when my beard grows out, calls me rabbi. Really? Yeah. I don't think he loves the beard.

Oh, he wants you to shave it? The negative thing? Yeah. I like your beard. Would you ever shave your beard? I was thinking about this the other day. I'm just kind of scared what's under there. It's been so long. Did you look at the filter? Did you look at the TikTok? Oh, I actually went on TikTok and I was trying to figure out how to do it because I'm like, and I couldn't figure out how to do it. Is there a reasoning why you want to get rid of it? I mean, it's just been so long that I'm like, I wonder. Also, we posted a picture of like, it was me, Tommy, Steve who works here and-

who works here. And it was like a side-by-side of like a picture of us in 2018, a picture of us now. Yeah. And a lot of the replies, not just to me, to them were like, kind of just like ranking, like who looks, and they were like, that guy like looks the worst. Like to,

Like to me, I mean, I have a beard. Back then I didn't have a beard. I don't know. So you're kind of got in my head a little bit. I'm like, did I look hot? Oh, so they were saying some girl would be being like, damn, like yikes. Like you used to look good. Wow. So they were saying you look better without the beard in that picture. I'll say that. That was a good picture of me. Like you look great with the beard. Thanks. No, I don't think I'll get it. Don't overthink it. No, no, I'm not going to get rid of it. I'm too scared.

Anyways, this show's an A for me. And I guess a B plus for Noah because of Kristen Bell. Tim Dillon special. Did you guys watch that? I did. So that's a new show. So I think it's just a special. Oh, really? And I think it's just him basically being Jerry Springer. Yeah. That's the take on it. Or like Maury Povich. Yeah, yeah. Or Jenna Jones.

whatever, Jenna, Ricky Lake. Right. So you watched some of it. Yes. Did you think it was real? Like, do you think the people there knew what was going on? Cause I can't decide. So I, I looked into it that it is a hundred percent real. So, but I was confused because I always wondered this about Jerry Springer, that when you and your wife get on a plane from Mississippi to go to Chicago to be on the Jerry Springer show,

You never talk about on the way there like, hey, what are we going to do? And it's just like, oh, I have a secret that I want to tell you or something like that. That's what I don't understand about this. It's like they know they're going on the show to discuss. And the one guy said he lost $200,000 in NFTs or something like that. And you're just...

And you're deciding you're going to tell your wife on this show. Why? I can't wrap my head around it. I found it to be entertaining. Is it like when someone goes to a very public restaurant and breaks up with someone because they think they won't make a scene because more people are watching? Yeah. It has to be something like that. And this is another thing that I was thinking. Jerry Springer happened...

A couple notches before, everybody in America wanted to be so famous and it was so accessible. And so maybe this show is, this is more the time for a show like this because everybody, it doesn't matter how embarrassing your life is or your story that you have to tell, you want to tell it because you know that it'll get a lot of eyes on you. I guess. I just can't wrap my head around it and what they think they are going for, right? Like the audience members, do they get invited to this? Are they signing up?

Like, I need to know the logistics behind this show. I watched another TikTok on some of the audience members, and the guy was saying that he got there and they gave them MAGA hats or something like that. So I think that they were trying to make the audience look as extreme as possible. Right, because you had both sides of the political spectrum in the audience, but then it wasn't... It wasn't political. It wasn't political, because then I was like, am I watching... Is this about to be political or...

But then it wasn't. It was about like a mom, an almond mom who shames her daughter about what she's eating. Yeah. Like I did laugh at parts, but I was also confused at a lot of parts as well. It was funny. And it's, it wasn't, it doesn't feel like a normal comedy special. It feels like its own thing where Tim Dillon's obviously a funny and really interesting guy. And the fact that he can do this and still be great at standup, still have a great podcast speaks to how talented that he is. Yeah. But it feels like something different. Yeah.

It was different. And he was able to do crowd work and stuff with the audience, which was funny. Noah, did you watch this at all? I did not. I saw some clips that were funny, but I didn't watch it yet. I guess I would... What would you grade this? I would give it like a B. I would give it just a solid B. And I've really given points for the creativity of finding a new way to get his comedy out there. But...

It's just not so new that it's like must it's like I would watch this if I was home sick from school one day or something the same way I would watch Jerry Springer. Right. It's on at noon. Yeah. I'm not at school one day. I don't think it's like appointment nighttime viewing. That is the vibe that it was giving. Like I felt like I went to the nurse's office and got home around 1230 and then I got home and this was on TV.

And it's just like a quick story of something. Yeah, it was like 45 minutes. Like, you know, spicy, salacious. It was funny. It was funny enough. I agree with the B grading. I think that's a good grade for it. Tell Me Lies, this episode. You're caught up. I'm caught up. The Thanksgiving episode. I loved it. Oh my God. I'm going to give this one an A. I'm going to give this one an A. Have you ever played that slap game? No. And I was like, why the fuck would people play this? Have you ever played the slap shot game? What is this game? So it's like you...

hand someone shot you pour them and then You get to slap them in the face like it's literally just like you I've never played this No, what is it? But is it a women slapping men women slapping men men slapping men men? Softly like they're all just slapping each other. I've never seen a game like this played. What show is this tell me lies What is it a it's real? Is it a reality? No. No, it's a scripted scripted drama takes place with the kids in in college and

Oh, got it. I'm shocked you haven't seen it, but it's based on books. It's very popular right now. I'm going to give this an A, this episode. Every single holiday episode of a show is dramatic. Just when I realized there's a point where you're like, oh, they're all going to end up... Obviously, Stephen's going to stay home or stay in college, and they're all going to be in one room. But I was happy with the ending. I don't want to spoil it, but I feel...

Like, she finally stood up for herself in a solid way. So I'll give it a B+. Because Kristen Bell is not in it. Honestly, you know what? Maybe I'll give it an A-. Because no Kristen Bell is not in it. But, no, it's getting better and better. I like it. Yeah, it's solid. Solid week for Tell Me Lies. Okay, Love is Blind. Who watched Love is Blind? I'm caught up. I didn't know that I was watching Love is Blind when I was watching Love is Blind. I just...

picked up, my wife was watching it, and I just sat down. I didn't realize how far we are into it. They're already out of their... It goes fast. It goes really fast. And sometimes they'll have the people out of it while others are still in it. These people are already engaged, but then these people are still in the pods. So what I really want to talk about is, because I'm not finished, I think I watched three episodes or four episodes. I'm not exactly caught up. But

The guy, Leo, who keeps talking about how rich he is and how he's an art dealer and he's come... That's who my wife was just saying is the most ridiculous character that's ever been on a fucking reality show. I... At first, when he started talking about how he, like...

Okay.

And then Hannah and Brittany were both like, you're torn between two women. Like they both were confused why he was torn between two women. He starts asking Brittany, what would you want your engagement ring to look like? And he lets her know, I'm also going to be asking my other connection this. So she's like, why would you even bring... Why are you telling me this? Whatever. He ends up guessing which ring she wants. There's a whole thing. Can't do that. And then...

his other connection comes in and she's like, I'm picking Nick. Like, like you clearly have another connection. Leo loses his God damn. It's like moaning on the couch. No, like, like screaming. What kind of losing his mind? No, he was like, Hannah, Hannah, why are you doing this? Won't you marry me right now? If I ask you, you won't marry me right now. I love you. Like there, I said it. He was like, he was like, I,

Only will marry someone I say I love. And guess what? I love you. And I told my other connection, I won't tell her I love her, but I love you. Like, it was just very clear. He got his toy taken away and he was like, I want to play with the toy now. Exactly. He didn't like that. He was no longer in control. And once she had picked someone else, he freaked the fuck out. It was incredible TV. Cause I was, this love is blind is like, it's always good, but certain seasons are just like,

a plus and you never know if they're gonna live up as soon as this guy started screaming i was like all right we're getting it i was like we have some characters on this season and that's a relief to me because the last season was really good um but i'm not finished yet so i will grade the first three episodes i can't remember how much three or four which is hard um oh wait so you're not yeah okay i'm not out yeah don't spoil anything um i'm gonna give it

I'll give it a B plus because I was very intrigued. What's the, who's the football player? Is there a guy who is a football player? Used to be. Oh, that's him. He was like the kicker. Like, right. That's him. Or no, no, no. He's a paint dealer. The other guy. What's his name? He was like a kicker. He wasn't in the NFL. Is he Nick? The one who keeps talking about how he said he looked like fucking Henry Cavill, which was insane. And he's saying he's better looking than Travis Kelsey. Yeah, Nick.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. That guy is crazy. Oh my God, he stinks. He's saying he's so good looking and better looking than Travis Kelsey, Henry Cavill. I'm like, bro, what are you looking at? It's not really spoiling anything, but once people do get together and see each other, the other girls are like, that's what he looks like. Yeah.

well he just he carries himself he's like so saucy like he thinks he's the man yeah sits down he's like what's up ladies oh it's horrible the fact that they like think that and it makes me feel bad for the girl that was on last season that said she looked like Megan Fox everyone tore her apart and it's like we're not gonna tear this guy apart for saying he looks like fucking Henry Cavill like that's insane yeah he doesn't look like Henry

no not at all and i'm all for guys being confident have your confidence but at the same time uh the way that he his his confidence is like a little bit too uh he's laying it on a little thing yeah confidence with some self-awareness a little bit of self-awareness it goes a long way a little bit of self-awareness so what are you grading it b plus b plus um yeah one couple doesn't go to like

the Cabo or whatever where they go like where I'm like and I've seen people say the same thing like how are you not even if they're clearly not going to get married why wouldn't you send them just for the entertainment like which was surprising when I was watching do you think they have like a contract in that show why do people always get to the altar

Oh, I think... And they have to wait till they get there, right? I think they have to wait. I think some of them, they try to make them really wait until the altar to be like, no, for the dramatic effect. Right. So they are making them. I think probably... Do you know what I mean? Like a contract, yeah. Yeah, because you wouldn't want your... If you knew, you wouldn't have your whole family come just to watch it. Right. But then there also wouldn't be a show if every time they got to the altar, they said yes, then they wouldn't have a show. Yes, I agree. But it also just feels a little fake. Yeah.

Yeah. That you know that someone's going to make it to the altar. Yeah. I mean, it's the craziest show of all time. Every time they propose, I'm still blown away that they haven't seen each other and they're proposing. Like, I'm like, what? And I've seen four or five seasons of the show. How many seasons of the show there are. Last thing I watched was I watched four episodes of the Menendez Brothers Monsters.

These guys are incredible actors. That's my takeaway from the show is that they're incredible actors. And I am so utterly confused about this case. I wasn't familiar with this case at all. It's like a famous 90s case, right? I think it was 80s. 80s. Because I asked my parents if they remember and they remember it really well. I don't... I'd never even heard of it until this, which makes me feel like kind of stupid, but... I heard about it. I just didn't know like...

So it's two brothers killed their parents, but there's a long history of the parents being very abusive and a lot of things that go into that. So it's a big case because people are like, should they still be there? They're getting a new trial in November now. Still alive. They're still alive. They're in jail. They've been in jail for like 30 years and they're getting a new trial because of all the.

New publicity to it. And also, you know, like when someone kills someone and they like, quote unquote, like crimes of passion or like reasonings behind it. You know, Gypsy Rose killing her mom because I think there's a lot of that going on. Interesting. But my main takeaway, because I am not so familiar with the case and I'm learning about it as I watch, even though there's a lot of, they say that a lot of what's in the show is inaccurate. The family is not happy. Yeah. But then the director is saying like, they should be thanking me because...

Yeah, people are upset with Ryan Murphy because they think that there's not an accurate depiction of what happened in the show, which is always going to happen with these kinds of shows. They're incredible actors, though. That's my main focus of this is that these guys are really fucking good. Did you watch the scene where it's like one take? Not yet. That's the next. That's episode five. That's my next episode. So I'm actually going to give this. What did you grade it last week? Probably a B+.

I'm going to go B+. Not copying you, but that's kind of where I was headed anyway. Just because it's... If it was like 100% true and the family was like, then I'd maybe give it like an A-. Right. But the controversy surrounding it, I'm like... It feels weird. I don't know. Also, that it's a true story about them murdering their parents. Right. It's dark. This is awesome. The fan edits. I'm not going to lie. I was watching it with my parents.

And they were like, they were like, Maria, why do you keep asking so many questions? I was like, I just, it's really interesting. I was like, oh my God, their parents were so aggravating. My dad was like, stop. It is a trend though. Like that TikTok edit that I sent you, like of everyone watching that TikTok edit. And then Marty ordered cookies, like surprise cookie. We were watching with my parents and,

And he's ordered like dessert to the house, like for my family. And they were so excited that we got cookies and they were like, is this like a distraction? Are you trying to like distract us with cookies right now? But it was, it's good because the actors are great and people are now obsessed with them, obviously. Yeah.

um it seems super intense my wife was watching it in the other room while i was on the phone yeah i've never asked her to turn a show down before it's my first it's very very intense it was like just like crazy people screaming insane it's also one of those real life music i went into it kind of expecting the murder to be like toward the end of the show and it's just like first episode

There it is. Well, that's why I was like, okay, yeah, they killed their parents. Done. What's there to learn? But obviously you learned about all the abuse that they went through before that. Did they get into their lawyer? Like, did they have a female lawyer? Yeah. Yeah. She was a very big part of it.

She's the roommate in Sopranos. If you guys watch Sopranos, Meadow's roommate. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. I saw like old clips of her and she just seemed... She was on like Bill Maher or something like that and she was like a pit bull. And people would be like, well, like your clients, like blew their...

blew like their parents heads off and she's like well they didn't actually blow their heads off like she just is like super specific about every word yeah she seems like a great lawyer right i mean somebody you want to have on your side if you blow your parents heads off you better have a good lawyer blow the heads yeah right exactly um that's everything i watch um i watched the the movie the prestige this week for the first time no but i rewatched that's a that's a favorite of ours on this show really you guys like i watched for the first time not too long ago

I told you to watch it I give it a like pretty much just a straight A it's fucking incredible it's such a good movie such a good exciting suspenseful movie so good I watch because that was one that you watched recently because I kept saying you have to watch The Proceed you have to watch The Proceed that's a solid A yeah Christian Bale's incredible in it Hugh Jackman's great in it Michael Caine's great in it when did you find out Christian Bale had an accent in the movie in real life

right now yeah very recently very recently for me as well in in the past two years i found out because he's such a good actor it's like he could just be embodying any role yeah there's videos of him when he was like a child and it's crazy to watch really he seemed like a really smart kid but like when he's like 10 just talking like just a good what is he british or australian we still don't know i still don't know i feel like australian right

That's so funny. But in the movie, he has like an accent like this. He's English. He's English. Oh, he's English. He's English. Yeah.

Here's like a stupid English. Like free for you. Yeah. You got a good accent. Yeah. Going back to accent. Not Russian, but no, it's no Russian. No. I also watched a movie called The Beekeeper on a plane recently on the way back. And that's fucking sucks. That's Statham. Yeah. Jason Statham. That was stupid. And then since the last time I've been on, I also watched It Ends With Us.

Thoughts? I didn't like it that much. Wow. Not as good as the book. Did you read the book? No, but I've heard people say it's not as good as the book. I just thought it was like a little bit cheesy, especially at the very beginning when they both meet each other. I like laughed out loud. And it's not supposed to be like funny. Yeah, when she's like...

He, like, kicks open the door and she's basically, like, just, like... I'm so random. Like, did you know, like, human heads weigh seven pounds? She's like the little kid from Jerry Maguire just, like, saying, like, random facts. It's like, uh...

I just thought it could be so much more impactful. But then I saw that at the box office, it did incredibly well. Yeah. I think it was because there was a lot of drama surrounding it. And also a lot of people read the book. So people were flocking to it. Flocking to see it. I actually liked it better than I thought I was going to like it. Better than the book? No. You didn't read the book? Yes, I did. Oh, you did? Yeah. I don't think you read the book. Okay. Fucking.

fuck you. Immediately jumped out. You didn't read the book. Yes, I did. I talked so much about reading this book. Um, I just, I thought it was better than what I thought it was going to be. Honestly. What would you grade it?

Like a C. Ooh. Sad to say. And I went in with, I don't even like to watch previews of movies before I watch them. I like to go and not knowing a single thing of what they're about. It just didn't do it for me. But I'm still a team Blake Lively though. Oh, like in real life? In real life, yeah. I'm not going to let her get canceled just because she had like a bad moment in 2016. That's very fair. Have her Barbie moment with this movie. That's what people say. That's what Noah is taking the thing somehow. He goes, he's trying to have her Barbie moment. Noah saw a couple tweets that said,

I definitely did. But then I was like, it kind of is true. What was her Barbie moment? I don't know how to describe it, but kind of like what she wore to the event. So the movie was about domestic violence and all of...

Blake Lively's promotion was like her and her hair products and like she was like grab your florals and your friends and people were like okay well there should be more of like a warning of what this movie's about because people could show up that like have trauma and then they watch it and they're like they think this is a movie about florals and friends we're at

And her name is Lily Bloom. Yes. Very, very floral Barbie moment. And then just about Tony was like only talking about the domestic violence aspect. It was the juxtaposition of the two. That was not great. Well, I didn't go in to the movie thinking about domestic violence. And obviously, well, it's not a trigger warning for me, but...

it was it that was like a welcome fold of it not just being a regular rom-com so maybe she wasn't trying to spoil it but it doesn't seem like that's right and i think that's what people are like it's not a rom-com and she's making it seem like it's a rom-com so that's what the whole discussion is like don't watch it with your friends in Rome it's like all right yeah right it's like i'm my drop top convertible on the way to the is that you got everything

That was... What would you rate the beekeeper? I don't think you gave a grade. Like a C minus. You can go F. We've thrown some Fs around here. Noah's thrown some Fs. Really? When Kristen Bell's in it. Yeah, he just hates Kristen Bell. I'm trying to think anything else that I've watched.

I went for a walk at Prospect Park. I'll give that an A. That's beautiful. Just watching life. It was really nice. I went to the Caterinata concert on Saturday night. I'd give that a B.

Pretty fun. B, not full A. I always wondered about that. I honestly thought I liked some of his music. And then I saw that he was playing. But I'm like, I don't know. His music's awesome. His concert wasn't as good as his music. Because it's just him playing his songs. But I saw him at Forest Hills. I also saw Fred again at Forest Hills. That was like one of the best experiences of my life. Really? It was like just the way that the show came together. He's just mixing it, moving all over the place. Everybody's going crazy. He was kind of just.

I'm not a DJ. I don't know, but he would just play a song, stop it, play another song, stop it. But Fredigan does it live. Yeah, Fredigan fucking ruled. Are you a fan of Fredigan or Kate Trenada? No. Neither? No. Have you ever even tried to listen to Fredigan? I'm not saying I haven't even listened. Treat yourself to some Fredigan. I always see people talking about Fredigan. I feel like he had a moment...

where he was just like the only thing people were talking about. Yes. That was like last year. Right. It was last year. Everyone was talking about Fred again and I never even dove in. It was still, that was like a, a paramount concert experience in my life that I'm still chasing. Really? It was that fun. Hmm. So maybe I need to dive in. Maybe I need, like you said, treat myself. Treat yourself. Noah, what did you watch? Maybe I'll have some recommendations for you guys. Like since you didn't watch as much. Okay. I'm ready. Um,

So yeah, I watched Nobody Wants This, give that a B+. Tell Me Lies, A-, Love Is Blind, B+. I watched the new George Clooney-Brad Pitt movie on Apple TV. Oh, what is that? Where there's like fixtures? Yeah. That seems really good. And for some reason, when I heard about it, I was just like, oh, that's probably bad since I haven't seen it promoted that much. And it's just probably like a money grab, but...

It was good. It wasn't groundbreaking or incredible, but they have great chemistry. It's kind of like nostalgia. Ocean's Eleven. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, it was just like a fun movie. You had a good time. I had a good time. I'll give that a B minus. I'll give that a B. I'll give that a B. Okay. No, I'll give that a B minus.

Decide. It's really your call. But I would definitely say it's worth watching and it's a good watch. And also, I was just like, how is Brad Pitt over 60?

I mean, they're both over 60, but Brad Pitt looks like he's 40. It's crazy. Handsome. Timelessly handsome. Yeah. It's What's Inside. It's a new movie on Netflix. I highly recommend this one. And I would highly recommend that you don't look anything up about the movie, and that's why I won't say anything before watching it. I would say it's like...

it's horror oh like but not really it's not it's i was about to say i'm out too it's not really like scary like that um you said horror right off the bat thriller suspense maybe more thriller and like psychological like it's hard to explain but it really it's a bunch of friends i'll give you this it's a bunch of friends who who are getting together one of them's getting married so they're all like reuniting the night before the wedding and this one friend that

They haven't seen in a while. He just kind of shows up with a suitcase and he opens the suitcase. And what happens after that?

is what ensues. What's inside. What are you rating it? I'll give that a B+. I was very much entertained. It's funny. Very funny. It's funny, but it's horror? It's a mix of everything. I really wouldn't think. It's not scary. There was no point where I'm like, oh fuck, I'm scared. It's very Black Mirror-ish, if I had to describe it. Psychological. Yeah, it felt like a long Black Mirror episode.

And then I watched the first two episodes last night of the show. I don't even know if I'm saying this right. Grotesquerie? The show Travis Kelsey's in. The one Donna Kelsey's at a press run for. Yeah, because he was the thumbnail of the thing. I'm like, oh, let me watch this. He has not been in the show yet. So classic. That is so classic. They baited you? They baited and switched you? But I didn't know what to expect, and it's like a serious show about...

It's kind of like Seven, the movie Seven. Is he an actor? He acts in it? He's acting in it. He's an actor. Travis Kelsey got an acting job this summer? I think he's on multiple shows and movies coming out. I think that one and I think he's just hosting the Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader celebrity edition. I haven't seen him act in this yet. He hasn't been in the show yet, but it's like a serial killers on the loose with these very strategic and

disgusting like murders and it's like trying to catch who did it but yeah I would give it a B so far I'm excited to see what Travis Kelsey does and yeah that one if you're not like into scary stuff I wouldn't watch it because it's pretty pretty gruesome and graphic some solid watches from you those are all B range no I was thinking that I'm like all in the B range damn you had some good watches could have dipped into A if it wasn't for Kristen Bell damn Kristen Bell

That's all you watched? That's all I watched. All right, guys. Well, thank you, Rowan, for joining us. We really chatted it up. I'm really glad we got to do this. Anytime you want to come on and talk about Bravo, any of your interests, please do. And that's it, guys. That's everything we watched.

All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Thank you so much for watching and listening. It was a long episode. I hope you made it through the whole thing. Thank you to Kelly Gia Roan for joining me and giving you all the pop culture needs that you want in your life. We love you guys so much. We have a big guest coming on Wednesday. We'll do a little solo. We'll do a little guest. It's going to be a lot of fun. We love you guys so very much. Big hugs and kisses. Enjoy your night. We'll talk to you on Wednesday.

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