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What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, everybody. Happy birthday, Noah. But first, this podcast is presented to you by Macy's. I love a good fall refresh. And thanks to Macy's, I have a super comfortable...

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and warm and you're looking forward to going home every day yes everyone shop macy's.com and get ready for the fall winter happy birthday noah how we feeling hey you know i'm older older a little bit older yeah well we got some nice decorations yeah nice decorations and sarah and everyone we have some gifts for you oh i have a gift for you close your eyes close your eyes actually close them put it on the spot

Oh my god. Wow. You know, Marty actually like texted because he texted me. It's a bag of Doritos for all those that are listening on audio. He was like, I owe you one bag of Doritos. So did he know that you were doing this? Yeah, he did. Why would he say that in his text? I told him I was doing that. Two bags of Doritos. Oh my god. Well. No, these are your favorites. So I got you the Cool Ranch. She's like, guess what? I already have two bags. Thanks, guys.

For those that don't know, Noah showed up to my apartment for a Sunday family dinner with one bag of Doritos, so I had to follow the tradition. But I got one more thing for you. My mom, by the way, was disgusted with me when she heard that. She was like lecturing me. I was like, enough, enough. Yeah, it makes sense, but well, you know, she's like, she's your mom. She's like, I raised you better than that, you know? No, she was like questioning. She's like, where did I go wrong? I did enjoy the Doritos, but I also have one more thing. It's

It's like a never-ending bag over there. No, this is the last thing. They're going to be pretzels? Oh. Nerds got me close. Wow. There goes my whole diet plan. Yeah. Thank you. Happy birthday. Amazing. Thanks, guys.

were gonna go with just one bag of Doritos but then you told me you like Cool Ranch better and yeah Sarah actually had a fantastic idea that we couldn't fully execute because we just it was just came too late but to get you a cake that had nothing that was peanut free but just in the shape of a peanut I think I probably wouldn't have you probably wouldn't have trusted it but it was you would have been it's like when they say like things are flavored peanut but like oh it doesn't have I'm like yeah yeah I don't care it was literally just it would have just been like a chocolate cake but like to look like a peanut

That would have been genius. Yeah. It would have been genius. It would have been genius. Next year. We'll have to remember for next year. We'll remember for the big 3-0. Yeah. Big 3-0. We just have a peanut themed party. Did I tell you that guys that I got new EpiPens? Yes. Thank God. You sent us a picture. Thank God. We are very happy for you. We're extremely relieved about the whole thing. Especially now that we're like going out and traveling again, doing shows, doing, you know. It's just going to be about like remembering to bring them.

They're big. You should get extras for us to carry around so that we have them too. So that you always have them. We can put them in our purse. We gotta stay strapped. We need to make sure you're okay. Someone's gotta invent an EpiPen that can fit in my wallet. How is that not a thing? Maybe you can. Maybe this is the fortune that you will come into. If anyone else out there is an inventor or engineer or something... No, you gotta patent it. You gotta make this your own. Oh, like...

You gotta make the bucks off it. Yeah, what would you call it? I mean, there's no way Big Pharma isn't working on that. I'm just like, everything that we have this day and age, like iPhones, they can't figure that out. It would save lives. It really would. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think this is a beautiful message, but I think you should... What would they call it? If I patent it, should I just call it like...

The Noah pen. The Noah card. The Noah pen. Yeah, you should because you can make money off this. This is your idea. Yeah. And now you're putting it out into the world. Someone's going to snatch it. But at least you'll be saving lives with your idea even if you don't benefit from it. Well, you would benefit from it. It looks like there is one that is pocket-sized.

That's probably the one I had before. I don't know. Yeah. But it's too thick. Yeah, it's... Yeah. You want to... I mean, it's a rectangle, but it's thick. You want a sleek one that fits right into your wallet. Come on. That's next birthday. That's our gift to you next birthday. You'll be like, hey, so we've had a science issue working on this. They say it's the size of a credit card and about the thickness of a cell phone. Ooh, that's thick. Yeah, I need it to be able to... Because that's... I don't want a bulge in my pants. Right. That's the main thing here. But how thick can it really be? Because it has to, you know...

What the fuck was that? He doesn't want to be bulging. It's just true. Like, in my back pocket, in my side pocket, like, I don't need, like, something sticking out of my pocket. You know, like... Well, they gotta, like, be able to fit the medicine in it, you know? No, I know, but, like... Like, it can't just be super thin. Like, it does need the medicine in it. I think it could be. Work on it. Work on it. How we feeling middle of the week, guys?

I'm exhausted. Makes sense. I'm crashed. I'm just, it's that time. Yeah. I'm crashing. Like I'm still riding the high and now it's coming down hard. Yeah. That makes sense. Coming down real hard. My apartment's a disaster. I haven't unpacked. All I want to do is just lay on my couch and watch TV, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

My hardest decision, because, and it's just, it's one of those things where, you know, you're, and Joe and I were talking about it because we were just like both home last night. We were like, what now? It's just, you just spend so much time. Your brain is just consumed with planning and wedding and honey, like everything. And then when it's over, you're just like...

What's a gal to do with the extra time? So much life to live. No, I know. I joked with him. I was like, you know, life. Now here comes life. But no, wedding prep and trying to eat well and all those things. And last time I was just lying on the couch and I was like, Domino's or McDonald's for dinner or Domino's. Honestly, just treat yourself. Yeah, I got Domino's for like first time in maybe six months. Oh, that's big for you. Which is...

The longest I've probably ever gone. And how good did it taste? Oh my God, it was fucking good. Oh gosh, that sounds incredible. God, it was good. That sounds incredible. Treat yourself. Got a cookie brownie too. Send shivers down my spine. I know. It hit the spot, let me tell ya. Treat yourself. It hit the spot. You deserve it, honeybunch. Thanks, thanks. But yeah, no, I'm...

You went to go have your lunch before and I was like fetal position on in this chair. I almost fell asleep. Like my eyes were closing. Steve who works here walked by and like he was like coming to ask her a question. He was like, is that

He also just didn't say anything. I was just scrolling TikTok, but I was like this. And I looked up and I was like, hey. He was just standing in the doorway. I was like, you could have just been like, hey, Fran. I got a question for you. I was also like, who else would be in that position? In the fetal position on the French chair. Yeah, you're just getting comfy cozy. I was. Like a little caterpillar. I was. I'm going to... So I talk about doing Pilates and going to the gym, but I'm incorporating a new...

exercise into my life tonight. I'm going to hot yoga for the first time. Now, I've done hot Pilates a bunch before and I really like hot Pilates, but I've never done hot yoga. Have you done regular yoga? I've done regular yoga, but literally less than a handful of times. I'm looking for something that...

is in between my other workouts a bit more relaxing like head mind body you know like um and they a class near me does like a candle lit uh beautiful hot yoga or warm yoga you can go i'm gonna start off with warm that's that's smart and then going to hot even though i've done hot pilates a bunch

People talk about... It's just something you haven't done in a while, regardless. People talk about hot yoga differently than they talk about hot Pilates. Because in Pilates, you're moving a lot more, so I think you're more distracted. Whereas hot yoga, it's more like...

still movements that I think you maybe feel the heat like a little bit more. I don't know. I haven't done it. So I'm going to try that for the first time tonight. Can't warm candle lit yoga. Sounds lovely. And it just sounds really nice because as we talk about getting into more of traveling with upcoming tour, it's easy to like,

On tour, go to the gym hotel in the morning, get your workout in, continue the day. But I want something that gives me more of like a quietness in between those moments, you know? More of like a calm, calming thing. So I'm excited to try it. Maybe I'll hate it, but I don't know. I think I'll like it. That'll be really nice. Yeah. I laughed in my head because very early on in my relationship, Joe was doing a lot of

like Bikram yoga and hot yoga. And we went to one class together in the West village. It was the one and only time we ever went. Because when I tell you, he sweat so much in this hot yoga. Like, like I w I was like, I can't even, you're grossing me out. Like you're like, this is like, you're pouring sweat all over the place. Like this.

Apparently you do pour sweat. You do. And you do. That's I mean, that's what's happening. But it was like I'm. Yeah. My friend was another level. My friend Hope does hot yoga. And she was like, no, like legitimately, I need to put a extra. You already have a towel on your back. I have to put an extra towel because of how much I sweat during hot yoga. But I'm excited for that because I'm used to more of like a fast paced workout or like solid core is slow, but fast.

The movements are slow, but it's hardcore. It's so fucking hard and you move slow, but it's not relaxing. I feel like yoga has that relaxing vibe.

meditative element to it. So I'm excited to try. We'll see, you know, we'll see how it goes. Candle lit. I'm excited. Yeah. It sounds nice. Yeah. It sounds beautiful. So it'll be nice lighting it. Like it'll be dark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's my Tuesday night. Yeah, it'll be lovely. Yeah. All right. So should we get into some topics? Yeah. All right. We're going to be talking about Taylor Swift. She's releasing an Error's Tour book. Also, Error's Tour starts again this Friday in Miami. This book will be released before the Jonas Brothers book. Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater seem to be going strong post-SNL party. Lovey dovey. There's apparently no bad blood between Salma Hayek and Nicole Kidman, they say.

Also, a book, Disney High, was released. It's the untold story of the rise and fall of Disney Channel's tween empire. And there's some icky stories in there, including one about Raven-Symoné and them CGI-ing Raven-Symoné's body while she was on That's So Raven. And we're also going to do a Tell Me Lies recap episode.

Before the finale, before the finale, everyone listen, before you watch Wednesday night, possibly, or maybe you watched it before. Honestly, when we recorded on Monday, I was like, oh my God, that's all I want to do. And that's all I did. I caught up. I watched all the episodes. Tell me lies. And we have a great, fabulous interview with Heather McMahon. More like a little chat. Heather just wanted to sit down and chat. She's been doing a lot of interviews, a lot of press all week. So, you know, we love having fun with her and just laughing and have a good time. So we'll get into that.

And let's get into the topics. So Taylor Swift released some more news ahead of Errors Night One in Miami on Friday. She will be releasing an Errors Tour book. I think people are very excited about this. It's a little different than what they're used to, they thought maybe.

Sorry, indigestion. They thought maybe, you know, reputation announcement. What else is coming? No, Error's Tour book. And then also for the Tortured Poets Department, we're going to get the vinyl and vault tracks. 35. 35 tracks. The official Error's Tour book filled with her own personal reflections, never before seen behind the scenes photos.

All the magical memories you guys brought every single night and the Torture's Poets department, the anthology on vinyl and CD will all be available for the first time ever only at Target.

On November 29th. Target stores are going to be packed around Christmas time. Target is. Is that Black Friday? November 29th? That's Black Friday. Yeah, it is. Oh my God. Oh my God. They're bringing back the madness of Black Friday. Because guess what? Black Friday now takes place online. People aren't rushing to the stores at midnight like they once did. But now we're going to get a little nostalgic. And we're going to be people are rushing the doors for Target on Black Friday.

Wow. I kind of live for it. It's very Thanksgiving, Black Friday-esque. Bring me back. Yep. Good timing. Smart on her end. I mean, when is it not smart, you know? But, yeah, they must just sit in a room and think like...

This is just the most successful tour of all time. - Does she ever not need more money? - What have we not done yet? Like book, done. - They're probably sitting in there going, well, the Jonas Brothers flubbed this one up so much that we might as well put out a book to save the brother's ass for how people are pissed that that book never came out. And now we'll put out the Eros tour book and people will be happy.

No, but honestly, though, it's a great thing for the fans to see never-before-seen footage, a great coffee table book. It's just a great book to have in your home. I think it's a great idea, and it's also perfect for suckers all around the world that will buy literally anything. 100%. And I don't say that in a demeaning or a bad term. We are suckers. We buy everything that people sell us. I am a consumer. Consumerism has me in a chokehold always. Yeah.

And I saw this and I was like, I'll probably buy that. Right. Consumer at heart. Yeah. Why not? It's a keepsake. You look back on it. It's a beautiful thing. You can pass it down. Yeah. Look at how cool this was. Absolutely. There's so many things that I got as a kid that I wish I held on to now. And as I have gotten older, I've gotten more sentimental with that on holding on to things. But I look back.

to the High School Musical concert, my first concert ever, and I got the book there. And I don't have it anymore. And I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why didn't I hold on to those things to look back on? It makes me upset that I didn't hold on to that. So people can get this book, have a memory, they went to the concert, now they have this book to look back on. Years from now, they can look back on this. I think it's a great idea. Yeah.

I needed my mom to have a little bit more of like the hoarding gene. She really didn't. Oh, neither did mine. Love you, mom. But like, I blame you for that big time. Like my mom would go into my room and just throw shit out. Same. She'd be like, what is this junk? And I'm like, oh, I wanted to keep that. No, it's gone. It's gone. When we moved out of her house, like she gave me like one lot, like I just going through everything. She's like, I,

I don't want to keep that. I was like, wait, what? I want to keep these things. Don't throw them out. I totally feel you. I had the same experience. My mom, very, very, my mom and my dad, very, very, very clean. Like everything has to be spotless. So I would always have to, you know, you got to clean your room. You got to clean your room. And we do clean outs of my room. And I also feel like I went through phases of life where I'm like, I'm done with this phase of life. And like, we'll just throw things away. And I'm like, oh,

It's not me anymore. And then I look back and I'm like, well, I should have at least held on to those things to look back on. Like old journal. Like I'm just like some shit I think just got thrown away. One thing I really wish I had.

is my pink Dell laptop. I just so badly wished I had my pink Dell laptop. It held so many memories, so many very serious but bad singing videos of myself alone in my room singing "Don't Forget" by Demi Lovato. I just wish I had these things. - I know. - And I just don't. And I have such, it makes me upset. I'm like, I'll never get those back. They're gone. - I know.

I know. This is why we need to, as a society, print our pictures. Because all of our pictures are on our phones now. And everyone's so used to having them on their phones. But...

We have to remember to print them out often and make scrapbooks and photo albums to hold on to because you just never know if this thing just goes, whoop, disappears one day. My middle school and high school, early high school years, all those photos, concerts, things that I went to, they were all on a laptop that's just dead.

and gone like I don't I think it's just like the laptop broke it's never was fixed and I have no like it's probably just gone now I'm not aware it's so upsetting like that's that's it but yeah all those back up for the backup and the print them out I gotta get back to printing things so that we have them but that's why this book is so cool it's like you have this book and maybe you didn't take these pictures yourself but you know that you attended one of the concerts and you can look back on such a cool experience and I'm sure there's

Really cool excerpts in there and everything. So I think it's awesome. I think it's a great idea. And I'm excited to see that the shows are beginning again in Miami. See what happens there. Obviously, the speculation continues of when is Reputation coming? She was wearing...

a purse the other day that seemed like it had an R with a snake around it. And so people are like, is that another sign? She's been wearing a lot of plaid, reading into all of that. So who knows? Maybe some announcement on Friday night or maybe no announcement. Maybe it's just another Aris tour show. Right. It's been, it's, we get so much and then we're also just like so...

spoiled with music from her that in my head I almost just thought yeah it's been a while since she's put out something like it's crazy you know it's not even like she just put out a whole she put out 9 million songs in April this year like not that long ago but when it comes to like the re-records it's like

Oh, my God. I mean, it's been a late last. Like, when was, when did she put out, when was the last one she did? 1989? 1989 was around this time last year. Right? I think so, right? That would make sense. Because it's, then that's like, like, it's been a while. Yeah, October 27th, 2023. Mm-hmm. So, same kind of thing, where you're like, October 26th, October 27th.

So right around that one year mark. Right. Reputation. TikTok. And then there's some artists where we've been waiting like years and years and years. Yeah. And it's just she just feeds us so much. So much content. So many things to consume and buy. And I'm excited to see this tour kick off again because then this is going to be the last leg and then it's going to be the end. That's a wrap on the Harris tour. Like the greatest tour that's existed. Yep. Yeah.

It's incredible. And she deserves some good time off after this tour and this year wraps up some nice time off. But very exciting. It looked like they had a lovely time at the Yankees game. Yeah, it did look like they had a lovely time at the Yankees game. The Yankees won. Mets also won last night. If the...

all time would be Yankees and Mets World Series. It would be. It would be really cool. We need it. Yeah. As people in New York. Yeah. We need a Mets Yankees World Series. And let me tell you this much. I'll be rooting against my fiance. Yeah. If it's Mets and Yankees. Love it. I put Rhea and Marty in the gambling game. Oh my God. Imagine my dad and, and Marty in the gambling game. Mets versus Yankees.

I wish I didn't say that idea out loud. No, you actually can. I mean, it's live. You can't put your dad live. No, no, no. Absolutely not. You need at least a 10 second delay. Yeah, for sure. Especially when it comes to sports. Oh my God. No, I mean like my dad and my brother, I grew up a huge Mets fan. I really don't talk about it really at all because when I started working

At Barstool, it was like everyone was such a big fan that I felt like I was not really, I don't know what the word is. An imposter? Yeah, an imposter because I'm not so diehard, but my family grew up diehard. Oh, I don't think I care as much as these guys care. Right, I'm not like so... They can have this. But my family really are huge Mets fans. I never really talk about it, and of course now that it's...

important i'm talking about it i don't want to just jump on the bandwagon um but it is very cool and i i would love to see like my dad and my brother be like so happy and pumped up for a mets win um so unfortunately i would be rooting against my fiance now if the yankees ended up winning i'd be i'd be more than happy for them as well yeah but i as my dad you know gets older and

You know, I'm rooting for that guy to get a win. I think that's so fair. I have a question. The, if they do, sorry. Yankees have won plenty. Yeah, I just think if the Mets Yankees go to the World Series, game six would be on the night of my brother's wedding.

wow yeah and i legit i legit think that my brother would be focusing more on no i was gonna say that on the mets yeah his wedding like i think you would my brother is like something that you can do that is really cool like it is funny because if most wedding festivities like dinner like all that stuff are more on the earlier side so the games like at night you're just like

Just wheeling the TV, maybe wheeling it. Yeah, I just know that's what they'll be focused on. It's also unfortunate because there has been a lot of drama at Barstool with the streaming of guys not being able to be at streaming things. And Marty's been like,

My fucking... He's like, if this dream happens and I'm just like, it's your brother's... He's in my brother's... No, I know. No, he would never miss my brother's wedding. He's also a groomsman in the wedding. It's just an impossible situation. He's also in his best friend's wedding this Friday or one of his best friend's wedding this Friday while there's a Yankees game. So it's just like wedding season with a baseball. We talked about this though when people are always like,

I would skip the wedding. It's like, you can't, you don't skip the, you're one of your best friend or your family members wedding. That's absurd. That's not real life. So yeah, but it would be, it would be quite entertaining if it was Mets versus Yankees. I forgot how we got there. Taylor and Travis were at the Yankees game. And I think people were saying that it seemed like Taylor was rooting for the Yankees and Travis was rooting for Cleveland. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean... That's fun. That's the fun of it. Look, Taylor is a New York resident. She's got a home here. So there's some New York love there. And, you know, if I was her, I'd be like, hey, look, until...

Until we take this thing to the next level, I'm not room for Cleveland. Right. That's the conversation that's been in my house because Matt's always like, well, you're going to be a Yankees fan. And my brother-in-law is also a Yankees fan. So my sister...

She's always like, I'm a Mets fan, but we're gonna raise Luca to be a Yankees fan. His dad's a Yankees fan. He's gonna be watching the games. And then you got Matt being like, Rhea's already wearing all my Yankee shirts all the time. And I'm like, I am. I'm already there. That's what I was gonna say. You're gonna raise your kids. Yankee. And you and Joe also don't have... I think it's whoever's the bigger fan. So for me, Matt is such a huge Yankees fan.

If we, they're going to be Yankees fans. Like, you know, what am I going to pretend? Like, no, they have to be Mets fans. Like, they're going to be Yankees fans. I can't sit here and pretend that I'm some huge, like, you know, that it matters to me. You, on the other hand, your kids are going to be Eagles fans. Yeah, 100%. It's not even a question. No, I wouldn't say it's not a question. Like, I, like,

He's certainly going to try and instill as much Jets as he can, but I will just overpower him. The Eagles got more spirit. Yeah, and I'm just more obnoxious about it. He's not. He's a Jets fan, but when I'm buying an entire Eagles onesie wardrobe, he's not going to be like, oh, let me get... He's going to be like, all right. It's just...

Josh, who works here, he was telling me because he has a kid and they agreed like the Eagles and 49ers played last year and they were like the winner of that game. Guess that's who our kid will be rooting for. And he lost. So now his kid's an Eagles fan. Wow. You're putting a lot at stake for that. That is awesome though. That's incredible and so funny. Honestly, good story. That is a great story. Eagles game. He's like, I'm going to the Eagles game. Yeah.

I'm like, you have to live with that your whole life? That's such a good story for the kid. It is a good story for exactly when they grow up and they're like, why are you an Eagle Star? He's like, well, let me tell you about a little game back then.

Back in 2022 When I was incoherent And my parents made a little bet Against each other No that's a great story But Yeah I mean I think it comes down to Who's the bigger fan Yeah look And am I going to end up Living on Long Island Yes So am I going to absolutely Be putting my children In a torture chamber Making them Philadelphia fans Living on Long Island Yeah But you know what That's just the way it goes My mom's a big Eagles fan Patriot fan and everything Like in New York You know Yeah

It happens. You're different. Yeah, you're different than everyone else. It happens. It was me. I mean, I grew up and everybody in my neighborhood were Giants fans. Some Jets fans, but mostly Giants fans. So...

You know? Suck it up. Yeah. That's the way it goes. Yeah. Our kids, they'll be Yankees, but they're going to be Islanders fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he doesn't care much about the Rangers. Right, right. And my family's big Islanders. Yeah. So it's like, we'll get the Islanders. Yeah, I have a feeling my kids might end up being real confused. Like there's going to be like, there could be some like New York, Philadelphia crossover, which is...

probably going to be tough for them. But you know, sometimes it happens. Like one of my brother's best friends is a Knicks, Rangers, Cowboys fan. And we're just like, dude, like why the Cowboys? It happens, family. Yeah, it's just, you know, and then it's just a thing from his dad. Somebody grew up watching the games with them. Cowboys and Knicks. Like, so, yeah.

But that's probably some Knicks thrown into my life. Joe cares more about the Knicks, I think. Really? Basketball? Yeah, but I'm a big Sixers fan. That's the thing. It's like you can't split it. You can't be like, oh, well, he'll be this fan for... Like, you have to be across the board. No, I'm saying some people do. I think that's crazy. Like...

Yeah, I don't know. I just said everyone else would be like, what? You're you're a fan of this team and this team. Yeah, that people do it. Yeah, people do it. I think it's like football is different, too, because like the Jets and the Eagles don't play each other as much and, you know, different conferences. And so it's like that helps Knicks and Sixers. So that's that's a conversation on Love is Blind. Or was it about something else where they're like she's like, you can name the kid, but I get this.

Yeah. She's like, all right, fine. You can name the boy. Oh, just because she was like, I'm going to name the daughter or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like, you can name our son for, I don't know, something. It was, yeah. Isn't that a line in High School Musical in Work This Out? Get tickets to the Nixon Sixers. I think it might be. It's Nixon Sixers, right? Or Music Mixers? Am I just saying Nixon Sixers? Because it sounds good. Get tickets to the Nixon Sixers. I...

I don't know if that's it, but it works perfectly. Oh, it is it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Get tickets to the Nixon Sixers. Kick it with the music mixers. There you go. That's called Lanz. Buy around that suits my style. Yep. Walk around the pool. Wow. Yeah, there you go. Yep. Yep. All right. Moving on. Anyways. Anyway. So we're really, well, we'll see, you know, hopefully things stay, Taylor and Travis will be having this conversation. Yeah. Soon enough. Soon enough. I mean, Taylor's completely confused.

About the Eagles. About the Eagles. Right. So was your dad.

Yeah. You know. It's easy though. He's on the team. Yeah. You know, they didn't just, here's the thing. Taylor didn't just start dating someone that's a fan of the Chiefs. No, I know. She started dating one of the best Chiefs players. No, like the guy. So it's like, you know what I mean? You can't falter there. But it's like with Jason and Kylie, if Jason were to get traded, it's like she was going to be an Eagles fan no matter what. Yeah, Kylie did say that. She was like, I still would. Kylie's a diehard. Like Taylor, I don't think Taylor was ever a diehard Eagles fan. And, and.

Kylie's a diehard. It's kind of like me. That's why I got chirped by her, you know? She's from that kind of family where she was like, my family would disown me if I started wearing other stuff. It's so funny, even when she does go to Chiefs games, she wears Travis merch. For me, I put myself in the category of...

I would say before I started at Barstool, I was more than I think what Taylor Swift was. I definitely was more of a fan. I watched...

a ton of games with my dad like and then when i started working here like i said i kind of was like oh i'm an imposter um but when i started dating matt and i started wearing yankees shirts around my house my dad was like what's this about and i was like oh come on you're used to nicole wearing yankee shirts and he was like yeah whatever yeah it was just like all right you know my first daughter broke me in and now we're going to this one

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All right, moving on to Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater. They are still going strong. I think people were interested to see where this couple was going to end up in the future because it was a, you know, a hot topic.

topic relationship with his past relationship. The rumors surrounding that did Ariana Grande break them up. Ethan Slater's ex-wife, they have a child. So much conversation surrounding it. And Ariana Grande in interviews would allude to the fact that people didn't really know what they were talking about and that these were just rumors and they seem to be going strong. Uh, lovey dovey at SNL after party after, uh,

Ariana Grande hosted SNL, which by the way, did you see Cara Delevingne got denied going into SNL because her tickets were for the, um, the tickets were for the run through, not for the actual show. Wow. She had, she had dress rehearsal. Cara Delevingne had dress rehearsal tickets, not show tickets and got denied from SNL.

She doesn't have any connections or anything? Yeah, this was on TMZ. Interesting. Yeah, that was just a little side note there. But Ethan Slater, Ariana Grande going strong. Headed into the wicked season. We are here. Yes, the after party was at Le Avenue and it's inside our total page six. Ariana and Ethan were side by side throughout the evening looking happy and in love.

And Arianna also brought some other friends, you know, classic, classic Essel after party shoes and mingling and whatnot. But yeah, I when there's scenarios where there's the drama and the speculation and, you know, a previous relationship, all these things, you're like, OK, well, at least they're making it work.

For now, you know, maybe it was all worth it. That's what my take is on it. It's like, well, if they were going to go through all that, well, then at least they're happy and in love. Right. Soak it in, lovebirds. Might as well just go be happy. You've already done it. Yeah, I mean, they've been doing a ton of press for Wicked, of course, and, you know, she's on SNL, but she was recently quoted just talking about, like, the drama in her life and being known for certain things and yada yada, but it sounds like...

coming out of whatever happened with Ethan and his ex-wife that it's all... No one's ever going to be like, yeah, you know, he left his wife for me. Imagine Ariana Grande sat down in an interview and was like, yeah, I took him. I took him while he was married with a child. The narrative that we get from them is maybe, you know, it was already done and over and blah, blah, blah. Doesn't really seem like that was the case. But...

That's the story that they're going to sell us. That's the story they're selling and they're continuing that and they're continuing their romance. Yeah. I mean, I forgot that she was married. Like seriously, the other day I was like, oh my God, Ariana Grande fully got married and divorced. It's so funny because I feel like people have their like COVID lockdown stories of like, oh man, I was...

I was really going through something at that time. Like I was doing this or doing that or everyone jokes about like the things we were all doing. And it's like Ariana Grande will be able to be like, yeah, I got married. I don't know what I was thinking. Right. I got married and divorced. Yeah. That's so it was all in that. It was all in that time. Yeah. So COVID for me. Yeah. Such a such a lockdown thing to do. Yeah. Super lockdown thing to do is get married and divorced. Didn't. Yeah. Didn't Miley and Liam.

Wasn't that when they got married too? No, they got divorced before that. No, I think they got married before that. They got married and divorced before the lockdown. I think so. Yeah, I think, yeah, I had that wrong. Yeah, I think so. Because they got divorced in 2020. Yeah, yeah. They got married in 2018. Yeah, they got married in 2018 and got divorced in 2020. Close enough, divorce-wise. Things still ended for them. 2020 was quite the year. I actually saw, I was so jealous of,

But Victoria Garrick posted a TikTok today of...

- She got invited to a screening for Wicked. It was like, got to see the whole movie. I was like, "Ugh!" I did see a couple influencers. - I'm so jealous! - Couple influencers got the invite. - I'm so jealous! I love Wicked! - If only you were in music. - God, I must not say it enough. - I feel like we've talked enough about how we're excited for Wicked on this podcast, we're not saying it on the platforms. - No, I'm not doing it enough. - If only we're musical theater kids, we would've been invited. - Yeah, I just fucking love Wicked.

I'm dying to see the movie. It's going to come out. We could see it. No, I know. And it's actually not that far away now, but... Getting the exclusive. Yeah, getting to see it first. Right. It'll happen, though. You'll see it. Don't you want to see it with everybody else? No, yeah. Yes. The joy of seeing a movie when it comes out with everybody else. There's sometimes nothing like that. I am kind of on musical theater TikTok, though, I will say. I get fed a lot of stuff. My For You page has just been people...

freaking out over Jonathan Bailey's like five seconds of Dancing Through Life that you could hear him say in the latest trailer that came out. And everybody was just losing their shit over it, which as they should, he sounds amazing. For somebody who loves musical theater, did you ever do musical theater? I can't sing. Neither can I. Yeah. No, I love it. I love musical theater. You never did like a musical theater? No, never.

I mean, I did like acting camp, you know, real back in the day. Like at your school, the plays? No, I mean, my high school did musicals, but they were, I mean, they were musicals. It was, you know, you had to sing. Yeah. And I cannot sing. That was kind of a requirement, sadly. But a big fan.

Of musical theater. Did you go to the shows when your school put on the productions? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I went to even some of the like public school ones too. Yeah. The other schools. Those were cool. Yeah. Because I went to all girls school too. So it was like kind of tough because it was like hard for them to fully cast. Yeah. They had to borrow boys from other schools to come do. Oh.

Borrow the drama kids. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. Exactly. Borrow your own little Ethan Slater, package them up and bring them to your all-girls school. Moving on...

There's no bad blood between Salma Hayek and Nicole Kidman, they say. So they say. A source says, so we talked about this on Monday's episode, that Nicole Kidman and Salma Hayek were spotted having a weird interaction at the Balenciaga show, even though we don't know why people still go to Balenciaga shows or buy their products. But they were at this show and...

And they had a weird interaction. It looked like Nicole Kidman was telling Salma Hayek, don't touch me. She didn't want to take a picture with Salma Hayek. Apparently, a source says none of that happened. There's no bad blood between them. Obviously, that's what the source is going to say. Out of context clips. Out of context clips, which happens. It's totally normal for that to happen. It just seemed like that ice queen, as you call her, was a little PO'd at Salma. And maybe she was.

You know? But maybe the moment passed and they said, you know what? We're going to bury this and we're going to say, no bad blood. Right. And I'm sure everyone out there has a friend or has had a friend once in their life that is a little ice queen-y. And sometimes when they have that moment, you're just like, okay, let her. No, she's having her moment. Let her have her moment. Yeah. You know? Come back around. Exactly. And Salma the next day was like, tell the sources nothing happened. Yeah. Nicole was being a bitch last night. Classic Nicole. Classic bitchy Nicole last night.

We got a little wrath and we move it along. But yeah, so they're saying nothing happened. So that's that. Classic spicking. Yeah. It was no spit, but was there? Did Nicole Kidman turn around and say, don't touch me? We won't. We won't know because they're going to say, no, everything's cool. Yeah. You got it. When a story like that comes out, I assume you got to just nip it in the bud. Totally. You're like, we got to put a stop to that. Totally. Totally.

And that's exactly what they did. Now, this was fucked up. So there was a book released, Disney Highs, written by a journalist, Ashley Spencer. And it's the untold story of the rise and fall of Disney Channel's tween empire. And there were a lot of stories that were included in this book, like, you know, little tidbits like Jesse McCartney turning down High School Musical or Zac Efron crying when his pilot didn't get picked up, little stories like that. But one of the more fucked up ones was that

It was revealed that Disney used CGI to make Raven-Symoné appear slimmer in an episode of That's a Raven. And the episode in question was titled That's So Not Raven. And it aired during the second season of the show. And it focused on Raven's character struggling...

with her body image after being rejected from a modeling gig for being perceived as too big. So while the episode was conveying a message of self-acceptance, production on Disney's side was actually doing quite the opposite and CGI-ing Raven-Symoné's body to appear slimmer. So it's so fucked up and backwards that the message of this episode was to

empower young girls watching the show to be like, you know, feel good about themselves. But on the other side of it, while they're trying to put this message out there, they're actually making Raven-Symoné feel bad about herself, the star of the show, by CGI-ing her to make her look smaller. Yep. It is really crazy. It was, they quoted a...

producer and writer for the series and you know Disney Channel was going crazy about it talking about Raven's weight fluctuating she said they you know they handled it in really bad ways but it was never to her face and then producer Michael Feldman said it was shameful of the alleged alterations I don't know how they could look at themselves and do that the very thing that she wanted was

The very thing that she wanted to do a story about was literally done to her. It's still a shocking thing to me that they were that tone deaf. And they also did it during the episode in which she was trying to convey this message. It's so backwards. It's so sick.

um so twisted to do to a young woman who was an absolute star like raven simone was somebody who when i watched on my tv screen was somebody i wanted to be like i wanted to capture her self-confidence her fashion her sense of style her comedic timing like everything raven simone had on that soul raven was like as a young girl that's what you watched and you wanted to be her like she was so funny

witty, smart, and so fashionable. And it's like, that's what I got from this show. But behind the scenes, knowing that they were doing these things to Raven and having these conversations about Raven, but not to her, it's just so fucked up. It really is. It is so fucked up. Absolutely. It's...

That time, like, God, it was just the hyper fixation on young, especially young girls' bodies is crazy. It's insane. And especially if you now go back to stories about, like, it's so fucked up to even bring up, but like Jessica Simpson, right? Mm-hmm.

There were so many tabloid stories about Jessica Simpson's weight that when you go back and look at these pictures of Jessica Simpson, who looked fucking dynamite, you're like,

What were they feeding our brains as young girls growing up reading these tabloids? You know, magazines our moms were reading. And then you're picking up the magazine in a nail salon when you're a young girl reading these magazines and they're plastering all over the place. Jessica Simpson gained this much weight. Britney Spears gained this much weight. And then now going back and looking up these photos that they were plastering everywhere. Yeah.

And these ladies look dynamite. Like they're, they, they look so gorgeous. And you're like, these were the images we were made to look at and think that they didn't look good. Like it's so twisted. So many episodes of TV shows. I think back like full house when, when they had the episode of DJ feeling like she was gaining weight and she, you know, was taking those caffeine pills and, and you look back and you're like,

she looked great. And like we were, they were making it seem like we were supposed to look at that and think that she looked a certain way or Degrassi or any of those shows where it's like, it's so sick. You're like, Oh my God, what we grew up with watching and seeing and like was trying to be put into our brains and then having to undo that as you grow up, it's,

It's so crazy, especially the ones that were living it and having those things said about them. Like, you know, as young girls watching, you know, you have to kind of unlearn the things that you saw. But then also being the example, like being these celebrities, these women that were put into the spotlight had those things said about them. Like, I can't even imagine. I know. It's really...

It was sick. And in this instance, like doing this in some production room behind her back and her not knowing is just...

really, really weird. It's so fucked up. And Raven-Symoné is just such a strong woman, always has been, like from the moment she was three years old. Yeah. And like I watched Demi Lovato's child star documentary and I really enjoyed listening to Raven-Symoné because you can tell she has a great head on her shoulders, but also like

She knows like her family dynamic. It was like a business. Like it was work. It was always work to her. It was always business. And like that's how she conducted herself from like three years old and on. But like you can tell she knows that like she wasn't supposed to be made to feel that like a certain way at those ages. So yeah, it is really honestly sick. Yeah. And I'm interesting. Like I'm surprised that this is I mean,

I'm sure maybe there's other books and whatnot, but that this is a very fascinating book topic, I would say. Like, I had not obviously heard of this until I saw, like, some of these stories. And that sounds like a book I would want to read. Yeah, it's incredibly interesting. Sparks a lot of conversations. Reveals the untold story behind the channel's evolution and its impact on the entertainment world. Yeah, I mean, I think some of that was...

I dress in Demi Lovato's child star documentary. I think a lot of it, I watched it. I forgot that I watched it to talk about it, but I think a lot of it was things we knew

But it was interesting to hear come from their voices like Alison Stoner and Demi Lovato talked about, you know, eating disorders that they dealt with while they were on the set of Camp Rock, while they were traveling the world, while they were doing press in different countries and they were getting complimented on how they looked and on the inside they felt so tired and drained and yet they felt like they couldn't talk about it. But then when...

Demi Lovato found out that Alison Stoner knew what Demi Lovato was going through. It was like a relief for Demi Lovato to know that Alison Stoner knew, but Alison Stoner was also dealing with it. So it's like they had each other, but at the same time felt like they didn't have anybody. There's just so much conversation around all this, and especially the child stars that grew up on Disney, Nickelodeon, all of that, even Drew Barrymore, and talking about as far back as Shirley Temple. There's so much that...

our brains can't even begin to understand that these people went on behind the scenes. Also at the hands of production and people working on these shows and these movies. Grown adults. Grown adults that aren't caring for children. Yep. So it is...

um sickening um while the book is also interesting it has you know other other stories in there about the behind the scenes of you know what went on just at that which really was is just an empire like that's what people wanted to be they wanted to be on disney like that was it that was the dream um all right moving on we're gonna talk a little bit about tell me lies because the finale is

Out this Wednesday. So it's out today. Maybe you watched it already. Maybe you're waiting to watch it tonight. But we'll talk about episode seven and a little bit before that Thanksgiving episode as well. These people, they're out of control. Oliver's a bad guy. Yeah. Oliver's a bad egg. And now I'm like, does Marianne know? Do Marianne and Oliver just have like a sick... Because she referenced the...

What's the what's the book? Virginia Virginia Wolf is about like a couple who like fucks with another couple like or another person. I'm pretty sure that's what the story of Virginia Wolf is. So do they both know they could be could be some sick game that they play.

You never know with this show. You never know what direction they're going to go in. But, you know, Oliver's just, I mean, sleazy guy, right? Like, that's just the same kind of thing. Oliver, same kind of thing where he's like, this is on him. Once again, same kind of thing. Like what Evan was saying, why does a 45-year-old guy want to be with

A 19-year-old. Yeah, it's sickening. Ew, yeah, because he's gross. He's an awful person. Bad, yeah. And... I mean, Brie's getting taken advantage of big time. Like, you know, it's just old, older. Right. Like, ugh. Oliver is obviously taking advantage of Brie here, but I'm seeing theories that maybe Oliver and Marianne are playing some sort of game and that Marianne, like...

knows that Oliver's playing a game or knows that Oliver's cheating. Right, which could be like with the earrings thing. The earrings because of the Virginia Woolf reference. People are saying that maybe they both know what's going on and this is just like something that they like to do. Also, people are talking about the way that Marion like

is eyeing Lucy up and down. Right, right, right. Like she wants to introduce Lucy to Oliver. Maybe Marianne and Oliver have an open relationship and Marianne thinks that Lucy would be a good fit for them to join into the couple of Marianne and Oliver, but really Oliver's with Brie. Ugh. I hate that whole storyline, you know? Mm-hmm. Just not just...

Just not into it. Because as much as Brie is fucking up here, you feel sorry for Brie because you're like, she is being taken so advantage of by this older man and doesn't realize it. And her friends are trying to get her to realize it, but she doesn't see it in the moment because she thinks him telling her that he loves her. Oh, she's really under this guy's spell. Yeah, the whole thing is sick. And now we got Lucy and Steven together.

I mean, he played the I love you card, right? You know, like he knew exactly what he was doing. Manipulative and gross. And you could see it right then. Bree's brain switched. She was like, oh, he loves me. And you could see in his face, too, why he did it. Like, you know, it was like, that worked. Right. He was like, the guy from Love is Mine. I love you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he was like, oh, I got it. That worked. Done. But, yeah. Lucy and Steve. And we all knew these two were going to canoodle back. And let me tell you something. Why am I like...

Why am I like, you know what? Yeah, you two belong together. You feel like you deserve each other. And it's the same logic that they're both having. They're like, damn, we're both really... We're just bad people. And you understand that. And I understand you. And maybe...

we should just be together because we're just two shitty people. That's how I looked at it. I was like, you know what? These two fucking people deserve each other. Just get back together because you both suck. So just be together at this point and hurt each other some more because that's what you're going to do. They'll get back together and then they'll do some more devious things. Yes.

Wrigley's breakdown to Pippa made me really sad. It's sad. Made me really sad. He's the only character that I can kind of root for. I actually do agree. I think he's like, poor guy just wants to help his brother. And he just doesn't, you know? It's just so unfortunate. I think he's really struggling, and I think we can see that. And I think every character has something complex going on. But I think with Wrigley, it's like he...

says you know the wrong things yeah at times and he even said it himself he's like i don't know why my brain feels this way i don't know why he's figuring his brain out and i and he doesn't mean harm like wrigley isn't outwardly malicious totally he just other people the other the other ones we can't say that for yeah they're all a little devious yeah wrigley doesn't have that in him he just is he can just be silly and he just doesn't realize what he's doing yeah

just feel like anybody that's in steven and lucy's orbit are just like in in for their life getting fucked up on behalf of one of them yeah which is why uh what was his name in the show but thomas doherty leo yeah leo like he got out of there good for him yeah yeah i would do the same thing i'd be like you know what you guys were all bad news if i was around on that that thanksgiving day but i want no part of this friend girl my gosh slapped her right in the face i want nothing to

I knew it's slapping. Also, it's also just like the fun, like you're doing a Friendsgiving with people that all literally hate each other and you're like, let's play a game where we all just slap each other in the face. Like maybe any other drinking game would have been a good idea. To be the only...

was Lucy slapping Diana in the face was like, Diana didn't have to make the comment in that moment. No, no, no. Maybe the slap wasn't warranted, but they were playing the slapping game before. She was in the spirit of slapping. When Leo didn't slap Diana.

That was good. Yeah. That was the only time you've seen him like embarrassed. Yeah, that was good. When I just like, I like Diana. And then every time she comes to Steven's defense or like covers for him, I'm like, oh, yeah.

Break out of this. But at least we know she... I mean, it's like those are certain things you're like, okay, well, eventually she does break out of it, obviously. Diana and Pippa, I'm like, right, these two, like, you could see the connection forming. Pippa not telling them that she was going to bring Diana to the rehearsal dinner or whatever they were pre-wedding, also kind of crazy. It's like you're about, like...

You're best friends and you're just going to walk in and be like, yeah, by the way, this is the girl I'm dating. And it's Diana. Yeah. They're all. No heads up. They're all so sick. They're all so sick. They love doing little things to each other to say, I want to know if Bree and Evan or Bree ever finds out that Lucy's the one that slept with Evan. Like, do we think this is a theory? I don't think so. This is a theory. No, this is a theory that's been floating around that.

And Stephen finds out that it was Lucy and ends up telling them that Lucy slept with Evan. And then Lucy tells everyone that Stephen killed Macy to get back at one another. Right, right, right, right. I could definitely see that happening. But then why would they all be at this wedding? You know, at that point, the friendship has to end. Totally. And you're not at each other's weddings. No. I would think that they clearly still have all these secrets. And there are times, too, where it's just like,

Lucy does make a lot of bad decisions. It's the same kind of thing. Like with Lydia's brother and stuff. I'm like, okay, I kind of understand that she's trying to help, but she's not helping at all. Right, and Diana explained it. It was like the intention was there because you wanted to help, but now you just...

Yeah, now you're just And now you're making it harder Right For the victims to come forward Right Because people are gonna think they're lying Because you just lied Because they're all just liars I mean, tell me lies This is the name of the show Name of the show They're all just a whole bunch of fucking liars They're sick and twisted Liar, lie, liars Yeah But I can't wait for the finale I am so excited for the finale So excited for the finale This is like really like one of my favorite shows Yeah It's Do you remember how you felt about last season's finale? Like, was it a cliffhanger? I can't remember

season one because I'm like are they gonna do that again are they gonna like I don't think there really was a cliffhanger I feel like there's always gonna be a cliffhanger because we have to get to the wedding yeah you know like we're not we're not there yet the 2015 time was a cliffhanger

Yes, it's because her friend, it's when she realizes her best friend is engaged to Steven. So that was the cliffhanger. So it wasn't like the college years cliffhanger. No, it's a wedding cliffhanger. So there's going to be another cliffhanger because we're not even close. How many seasons does the show have? They're going to have to do a ton. This is only the second season. They got a lot more to tell. Yeah. They got a lot more lies to tell. We're in 2008 to 2015. It's a lot of years in between. Yeah.

Yeah, a lot more lies. A lot more lies. But this show is dang good and I can't wait for the finale. Agreed. As fucked up as they are, feed it to me. Agreed. Feed me all their fucked up little lies. Give it to me. All right, that wraps up the topics for today's episode. When you're in need of some chill this fall, there are so many great options. Fall festival prices giving you sticker shock, host a fall party with neighbors, and Coors Light.

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I could really use a Diet Coke or a Coors Light since we're sponsored. I am fighting for my life. I know y'all are too. How we doing? I saw your TikTok. I commented on it. You were like, I have nothing left to get. I'm tired of talking about myself. And I commented and I was like, I can't wait to talk about you and only you on Chicks at the Office. I love y'all. I did...

love how you mentioned that you just want like a chicken cutlet sandwich to watch TV that's all I want that's the dream that's all I want a chicken cutlet sandwich at this point okay listen people don't realize you you know you do all this shit and then you know the special comes out and then you do the press tour and I love chatting with y'all because y'all are fucking fantastic but you do the press tour and then it's like yeah it's like how many much more can I talk about myself I'm sick of myself y'all are fucking sick of me everyone's fucking sick of this just watch the fucking special all right the first

two minutes into this podcast watch this special why because you want to support women in the arts and enough about that so yeah we're tired I think I wore this outfit the last time I was here I'm about to start my period I feel fat nothing fits like just let me fucking live is there a diet coke can we get a diet coke in here no like for real though if we could get a diet coke and let's just chill out let's just talk about whatever you want to talk about watch the fucking special like she said the election

let's really dive into it. So I'm beaten down about that. I'm like, we're fighting for our lives here. It's exhausting. It's all exhausting. The world is exhausting. You're exhausted. But yes, everybody, please watch this special. We literally rescheduled this interview. And honestly, when I saw it yesterday, I was like, honestly, great. I had done three other podcasts and I'm like, I'm tired. We were like, honestly, hopefully

Heather doesn't mind. No, fuck no. I just got back from my honeymoon and then I went straight to DC for my best friend's wedding, which was like a black tie, stunning, gorgeous, beautiful wedding. And we did like, it was gorgeous in DC. It was 80 degrees and sunny. We watched football all day Sunday. I changed my train to Monday morning. The whole thing happened. The whole thing happened. And we were sitting here and we're like, oh my God, what if we just, maybe she's here tomorrow. And then we were like, amazing. And then we sent your TikTok and we were like, okay, we're good.

I was like, she's not going to be mad. It's cool. It's fine. I'm so fucking chill. You can literally text me like, bitch, we're just going to flash up the, you know, the photo of you for the special. And then that's it. Like, I love hanging with y'all and chatting, but I'm like, I'm fine. Do what you got to do. Oh my God. I love it. Well, everyone, please go watch the special. It's hilarious. You are so, so funny. Like, I just want to pump your tires for a minute because genuinely when I see your clips,

And I've shared them on my story before because I just sit there and I just start cracking up because I'm like, it's the little like mundane things in life that you bring up that I'm like, yes, finally someone's talking about it. There was one clip that I shared on my story that I couldn't stop laughing about all day. It was like about how there's so many like graduations these days. Like there's the kindergarten graduation and there's the first grade graduation. You're like, no, that's it. No, you graduate from maybe I'll give you kindergarten.

Okay. That's even a stretch. But you get fifth grade graduation, eighth grade graduation, high school and college. Enough. Like all my girlfriends have young kids and they're like, oh, it's pre-K graduation and this and that. And I'm like, these kids are three and a half. You're in mommy's day out and you have a graduation. Let's hope that they're going to make it to the next level. Oh my God. God is. Oh, no. Okay. You know what? Okay.

What a tease. That was a tease. So I'm back on the Diet Cokes and I'm not proud about it, but I'm back on them and I gave them up for like 12 years and the other day I cracked one open and it's like, it's literally like crystal meth. Yeah. There's nothing like a nice, crisp soda. My friends know this about me. Actually, my fiance just posted a picture of me with a nice Coca-Cola and my friend commented like,

Coke drinking Maria. And I'm like, you know me. And they would always joke around about how in high school I would...

after cheerleading practice like i would get like a nice coca-cola like that's all i wanted or like if i woke up in the middle of the night at a sleepover i would be like i need a coca-cola like i just i just that is what made me feel less thirsty is just like a nice soda you know what's weird after i have sex i always crave a sprite specifically is that weird i don't know if it's like a lemon limey i actually don't think so because i feel like that also correlates with you know

the hungover. Yeah. Sprite. Like sometimes when you're in the, when you're out, like you're at the diner or something in the morning after a night out and you're getting your pancakes and everything and you're like, you know, I just want a Sprite. Right. I just want a Sprite.

You put in a lot of work So you're like I want a Sprite Water with ice And there's a lemon There's something about A Sprite that feels Like less Like you're like This isn't really soda Right Because it feels It's lemon Limey Citrusy It's like you're getting Vitamin C It's fresh It's less naughty It's like I deserve this

But I'm from Atlanta. It's a light liquor, not a dark liquor. Yeah, it's a light liquor. I'm from Atlanta, so everything is Coke. Like you can call it a Coca-Cola, which was so cute. But like literally, if you go to a restaurant in Georgia and you say, hey, I would like a Coke. And then they go, what kind? Then you say Sprite. Like everything's just Coke. Oh. Yeah, right? Like I want a DC, but it's all just Coke in general. And then you tell them exactly what you want. Okay, so that's like when people call like soda. Like we say.

Or pop. Yeah. It's just like Coke. If I was at a restaurant, I'd say, hey, I would like a Coke, but I'd actually like a Sprite. Then they just get it. You have to be very specific. Oh my gosh, that's incredibly confusing. Can I tell you when I first made money, the first thing I treated myself with is I got a crushed ice machine. Like a built-in one in my kitchen. You can get the one on Amazon for like 500 bucks. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I got a crushed ice machine. It was like five grand and it was the best money I've ever spent. That is crazy.

They're actually horrible to clean and they always break down, but it is my favorite thing I've ever spent money on. That is the dream. One of my favorite parts of this special was you talking about just being so insanely over budget for your wedding. Yeah, how we doing, girls? How we doing? And just hawking everything.

- IG ads while you were at your wedding. - Well, I panicked because I was a COVID bride. So I had to reschedule my wedding like 600 times. And then when I got to Italy, I realized like, you know, 'cause I became basically like a Pinterest nightmare. I would take drugs at night and then I kept adding things to my Pinterest board. So then by the time I got to Italy, I was looking at the receipts and I was having to pay vendors before the wedding. And I was like, holy shit, how the fuck did we spend this much money?

And then I called my agents and managers and they were all coming to the wedding. I was like, guys, I know you're still in L.A. right now. Like, I need deals. I don't care if it's Vagisil. Like, whatever it is, I need to be doing these ads because I have to pay for the wedding. But I'll tell you a little fun fact. If you talk about your wedding in your comedy special, you can write it off. So...

There's a loophole. That's why there's marriage material in there. She's a genius. She is a genius. Did you have a planner, a wedding planner? Yes, I did have a wedding planner and because it was international I had to have somebody who was in Italy and then I brought somebody over as well. So it was like two gals trying to run the show. Yeah, I don't have a wedding planner and I'm just

wondering these days if I'm making a really bad decision. What do you mean? But you have somebody for all the day of coordination. I'm going to get a day of coordinator, but I'm just very hands-on in general that I'm like, I'm hands-on and my sister really wants to help and my mom and my mother-in-law, everybody really wants to help all together. I'm like, so what do I really need?

need a planner for if we're all doing the planning. I love that your family is, everyone gets along and everyone wants to help. Am I being an idiot? I think this is a horrible decision. I think you have somebody, a third party, a non-biased third party, come in and run the show because you know what you don't want? Somehow this very happy kumbaya family beefing the day of your wedding. Yeah, yeah. Because somebody dropped the ball, didn't order the right flowers. Right. You can afford it. What are you doing? Don't be cheap. Yeah.

Come on. No, that is. I'm like, wait, but I could save money. Like, whatever. No, listen. The day of your wedding, you set it on fire. How did you feel? Oh, yeah. I mean, I needed those people. Yeah. And honestly, there was one guy who just, he came in for like the day of stuff. Yeah. And I don't know what I would have done without him, truly. Like, you know, there's like, those are the people that I feel like. We had a planner. Yeah.

The whole, the whole way through. Yeah. But somebody like, I got married on Martha's Vineyard, so a Martha's Vineyard wedding planner. So beautiful, by the way. Thank you. So beautiful. Thank you. Somebody who's just like, knows what it's, what, what,

knows the formula and knows how to like get shit done. And that was, and it was good. That's how it works. I just need somebody who could scream in Italian because that's the thing. Italians, like, listen, I'm Italian. I can say this, but like in Italy, and I remember when my husband and I went like a year before to like, you know, go meet some vendors. Like,

some Italians, you can't even fucking pay them. You're literally like, what is, name your price. Like we wanted a cigar roller. That was one of my surprises for my husband had this cool cigar roller. He was coming from Luca, which is a cute little town in Tuscany. And then like three days before the wedding, they were there, the cigar union. I didn't even know they were unionized. They all went on strike. So my wedding planner was like, I can't get the guys. They refuse to show up. I was like, what's the price? Whatever it is. I'll write a check for it. And they're like, no, they're like these old guys. Like, no, we tired. Like we don't want to,

And I'm like, you could not pay some people to do their shit. And you're like, how are you guys running businesses over here? It was insane. I mean, that's just, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, that's Italy. That's Italy. That's right. Yeah. Anybody to do anything on schedule. What would you say was the most like outlandish experience?

thing you spend money on that looking back you're like why the hell did I do this well I talk about it in the special but I had my welcome party on the Arno which is like the river that runs through Florence and I had everybody arrive in their own private boats and we were being serenaded by like Italian opera singers and then when I got that bill I was like that was pricey yeah but also we had fireworks that were so out of control that when they went off and they were too close to the actual wedding so they went off and we were oh my god goddess queen

There we go. Oh, hold on. Let's do a little A's. Yeah, for a second. Everybody just come at the same time. Yeah. Together. Yeah. Okay. So back to the wedding. I had fireworks and they went off. They were so over the top that they started to rain down on us as we were cutting the cake and everyone had to hit the fucking deck. Literally ashes, people, hairs on fire. Like literally people are jumping in the bushes because we almost set Tessie on fire. Yeah.

Fireworks are kind of like an underrated. People don't realize how expensive fireworks are. Like, you're like, oh, I want fireworks at my wedding. And then they tell you how much fireworks are. And you're like, okay, I don't need fireworks at my wedding. Yep. That's been one of the ones where I've been like, ooh, maybe we should do fireworks. And my fiance's like, let's look at the pricing for that before we decide we're going to do fireworks, Maria. And then we found out the pricing and we were like, ooh, maybe we're not going to do fireworks. Really? Yeah.

fireworks seem like it shouldn't be that fireworks is something that's another thing where like because it's a wedding it's just it's like 10 times the normal price like what if he just drives to Pennsylvania pick up some fireworks send somebody out on a boat set them off find a cousin who's got like a little bit of a meth addict over the east river I know that was the thing too it was just you know like

I just kept adding things to the vision board of the wedding because I was like, well, you know, I've had to replan this wedding six times. And I was, the whole reason I went to Italy is because everyone said, oh, you can have like a million dollar wedding in Europe and it's like half the price. It was half the price until COVID hit. And then I went, became a sociopath. And then the next thing you know, I don't understand how we went so over budget.

I was like, this is now a million dollar wedding. I don't understand. The whole point of getting everybody to Italy was to cut the budget and now here we are. I got bamboozled. But it was the best. Yeah, I was going to say, are you so happy that you did it in Italy? Yes. People go back and forth like, oh, should we do Destination? Should we not? Are you like, that was the best

- It was the best thing ever. - It was the best thing ever and it was right after COVID, like when we were all released back into the wild. So I didn't know how many people were gonna show up. I'm like, that's a long journey. And everybody showed up. Like we had extra plus ones. I'm like, oh shit, everybody wanted to come. So we had the best time. But I will tell people if you are doing an international wedding, your wedding planner will say only about 80% will come. That's bullshit. You can have 7,000 people at this wedding.

Right, because people, they're like, oh, I'll just go on a little vacation. Exactly. I think people get more excited for destination weddings now than they do local weddings. The local weddings, now people are like, oh, you know, maybe we just skip that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen, actually, both conversations happen where a lot of people are like, you know, it's a lot to ask your guests to pay, which I do agree with. 100%. But it's also up to them. If they want to pay it, then they will be there. And if they don't, then they won't. And that's completely fine. But...

we were planning on getting married in Italy and when all of my parents' friends found out we weren't, they were so mad. They were like, we thought we were going on an Italian vacation. We were like, oh my God, this is going to be our big vacation. Seriously, the last time I saw them, they were like, you know, it's fine. You're doing it in Brooklyn. They were like, really?

It's very selfish of you to take away that Italian trip for all of us. And now they're talking about the traffic going to Brooklyn. And I'm like, you're talking about the traffic going to Brooklyn, but you were going to get on an eight-hour flight to Italy? You're willing to go to JFK? Get out of here. Come on. They would rather fly to Italy than sit in a little traffic going to Brooklyn.

my thing when I started planning the wedding, I, you know, I thought about having a local wedding in Atlanta, but then I started to go and, and get quotes from like the country clubs and shit. And I was like, this is insane. They do a local shakedown, you know? I mean, I mean doing it locally, doing it stateside, you really get bamboozled. How are you right now with your budget? You're okay. Yeah, I'm okay. I mean, I think like I have no, like I'm, I,

Ignorance is bliss, baby. Right. I actually just went through all of my contracts yesterday again because I got ahead of it because we booked it in summer 2023. We're getting married April 2025. So I had booked flowers, DJ, everything, whatever. And then this past week, I was like, oh, I should take another look at all of this because it's actually approaching. I put everything aside. Right. And now I have to do this. So I went through everything.

all my contracts this week again. And I was like, okay, like this seems like we're okay. We're on budget. But then I decided last night, my sister and I were looking at pictures and I was like, whoa, I think I want to do this instead. And so this morning I sent a whole new vision board to my florist and he was like, okay, I'm going to send you an updated contract. And I was like, oh, I forgot about the whole update.

- I didn't know there was gonna be an updated contract. I was just showing you different vision board pictures. - Isn't it wild how expensive flowers are? Holy shit. - That's gonna be more. I kinda lucked out because, well, one, my florist was amazing. And florists, flowers are so expensive. But because it rained for three days straight, Martha's Vineyard, and it was like basically a mini hurricane,

our florist like I think she just kind of felt bad for us and just like brought some extra stuff yeah that's so nice she just decorated some of the things that she did we just did like she just did out of the kindness of her own heart oh that's so sweet of like she was like I just wanted to make sure the inside of the tent was like so stunning because that's so pure

If you stepped outside of the tent, like, you were going to blow away. Yeah. So I think she, like, added a little bit more, which was very nice. Very kind of her. All the floral stuff that was, like, on those chandeliers, it was not supposed to be like that. Wow. And that was so gorgeous. Let's give her a shout out. We like this forest. Huge shout out. Aubrey from Aubrey Marie Design. Wow. No love, Aubrey. Aubrey's solid. Yeah.

We love the opera. That's absolutely gorgeous. We got lucky because we are getting... Oh, now I'm going to say the date. People know when you're getting married. Right, whatever. It's the week after Easter, so whatever at this point. I'm available. The church...

is already going to be decked out in florals from Easter. Smart. So when we met with the church, they were like, by the way, do not get a single flower for this church. And they showed us pictures of what it looks like. And we were like, holy fuck. It's like cherry blossoms covered all over the altar. No, it's insane. So they were like, do not get

do anything but then they got us they were like you know most couples um they always get you i'm nervous this is the church this is how they get you there's a church the shakedown of the church this is how they get you they were like most couples who have gotten married around easter in this church they come back the next year to help us set up for easter every year no and i was like that is some

I don't know where I'm going to be in a year. Oh, now you want me to come do manual labor? So I got free flowers, but I had to do manual labor again?

We were like, oh, that sounds really beautiful. That sounds really nice. I'm the couple that got married last year. You should continue to have them this year. They make it sound like it's some beautiful anniversary tradition. It's like every couple comes back and that's how they honor their one year anniversary. They do. They're like, it's really nice. It's their one year anniversary. And then after that,

after that he's like by the way it's the feast of St. Anthony this weekend if you can come help me carry this statue so my fiance is carrying this big St. Anthony statue up the altar while we're there I'm like so we got literally shaken down yeah wait so listen to this the wedding I was just at one of my best friends in DC she got married on Georgetown's campus and there you know how like the chapels and everything there's a 2pm ceremony there's a 4.30pm ceremony they have multiple on Saturday and

The couple that got married before them in the earlier ceremony got also lucked out in florals because they

The church claimed they didn't have time to turn over the florals in between ceremonies. So my friend was like, well, I have my vision. That's everything. So the couple that got married before them just had all of her flowers. Oh my God. All of her flowers. I hope they send them a nice thank you. I was like, they lucked out big time. We were cracking up. Because even when we went to the rehearsal, they were rehearsing before us and we were like,

these people don't even know how good they have it. They don't even know how nice our floors are going to be tomorrow. I didn't get a free thing. I didn't get, you know, a rose bush for free. I was just getting literally paid nickel to dime for everything. But the good thing is too, when you get married somewhere beautiful, you don't have to add a lot of shit to it. That was my other thing. I always tell like stateside brides, I'm like, go somewhere pretty and then you don't have to add a lot. Yeah.

You know, I'm like, God, everyone wanted me to get married at my country club in Atlanta. I was like in a fucking ballroom. Like, I'm good. I'm good. I'm going low. I get married around Easter. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. People don't like the New Year's Eve weddings. And I'm like, no, it's a great idea. I like it. I'm dying to go to a New Year's Eve wedding. I'd rather have a planned party to go to than pay $200 to go to some nightclub. Agreed. You don't want to have a young person throw up on me. Like, I'd rather go to that. And then you get the free fireworks. There you go.

Boom. New Year's Eve wedding. You get a little party. You get some fireworks. I'm actually dying for one of my friends to do like a New York City New Year's Eve wedding. I know someone's going to do it. I'm hoping I have some of my friends are like, oh, I would maybe do that. I'm like, please. Your friend Lauren when she gets married. Allie was also thinking maybe. Yeah. One of them will do it. One of them. One of the rich bitches will do it. Yeah.

I'll pay a ticket to come to that. Yeah, no. You mentioned that people wanted you to get married at your country club. Yeah. I saw a clip, You Wrong Call Her Daddy, which was fantastic. Thank you. And you went to the live shows as well. Yeah. You've been doing a lot. I know. We just met and she's, Alex has been so kind. She's like, please come do some of the live shows and it's been a ton of fun. That is amazing. That was an entourage and I was like, do I need to dye my hair blonde? Yeah. Right now. I know. Hang out with this squad. I know. Then Jackie Schimel's there and Morgan Stewart. We were all just like...

none of us natural blondes so that was really nice too just absolutely filled with bleach riddled with bleach yeah it's amazing

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I do. So here's the deal. I am technically the legacy member because my grandparents were members and then my parents. So technically, I was the one who got us in. And it was kind of like my husband used to get pissed about it because people would... I never took his last name. So we would say, hey, Mr. McMahon, how are you? And Jeff's like, okay, I'm Mr. Daniels. And I was like, Jeff...

imagine what it's like to be a woman okay we always get told if somebody if i'm checking into a hotel and they say hey miss daniels i'm like fantastic yes i am as deals whatever you know and legally change it all right i was like so quit fucking bitching around the country club god forbid they call you mcmahon shut the fuck up um but i did tell him like in the divorce i will absolutely rip the one thing that brings him joy which is our you know perfect little country club with two great golf courses i will rip that from under his feet you

You know what I mean? That is, I'm not gonna let him like, although I say I will like, I'll never get divorced. I'll murder him and then I'll like sit in prison and turn to my roommate every day and be like, do you want me to tell you minute by minute, second by second, every single specific detail of how I murdered him? And she'll be like, oh God, this story again?

Every night bedtime story. Every night bedtime story. I don't know if you feel that way, Passion. So here's every little instance that led up to this moment. I'm not letting him go out and get remarried and either ruin another woman's life or be happy. Like you're going to suffer with me forever. Yeah. He is a good though. He is a good man. What if, okay, this is kind of dark, but say you, say you pass away. Yeah. Right. Are you hoping he like finds love again? Is happy? Yeah.

Well, I will say this. Jeff, I know that there are so many fabulous fans that would really come to his aid. You know, beautiful buxom women, big titties that would say, Jeff, here's a nice pillow to cry on. I told him he has to wait at least one year to have intercourse with somebody that slides in his DMs. He can get a hand job, he can get a blow job, but he cannot go penis into vagina for one year. Fair. I mean, I don't even think you can get a blow job within the year. You don't think? I don't think.

I mean, it's like, well, I guess the stress of losing you. Yeah, exactly. If any of the women want to step up. And just want to relieve this man. And they may need it too because they're sad that I'm gone. You know what I mean? I'm such a guiding light for so many young white women. The fans come together. The fans come together. But I did tell him I would haunt him. I'm like, I would be in the fucking corner and I'd haunt you. But that's...

I think that's how you know you have a healthy relationship. When I'm like, I love you so much that I want to squeeze you. I want to choke you out. Right. It would make me absolutely fucking sick to see you happily moved on. Amen. Amen. Exactly. And honestly, God forbid, if he were to get hit by a bus tomorrow, I'm tired. I think I wouldn't even try and be out there looking for dick.

I'm moving with one of my best girlfriends. We don't even have to scissor. We can just have a nice platonic relationship and we can just chill and have, you know, get a lot of weird stray dogs and just have a compound. I'm done. That sounds really nice actually. Everybody just saw it and they were like, oh, that's Heather's friend Kathy. She wears cargo shorts and drives a Subaru but not together. They're not together. But they've been living together for a long time.

For a while Yeah And if you have kids Or cousins They'll be like Yeah yeah That's Heather's friend Kathy She says they're just friends But I'm like guys I swear I'm sorry I just spilled Diet Coke all over me I had the shakes today I'm not even hungover Like what is happening When do you get some rest Um

2026. Yeah, I think next week, next week I get rest. And that's the thing. I like, you know, I went to Italy and I had this like long honeymoon and then I go to Italy every summer and I was just there and I was like, just like, you see how nice that you two go to Italy every summer, huh? I know. Everyone,

can go to Italy if you do it right you can do it affordably but everybody here in America buys a fucking lake house well I don't get invited to lake houses I get invited to Europe so guess what I go to Europe I'm trying to get on that wave you know get on that wave you know if you spend the same amount of money in the Hamptons it's everyone's in the Hamptons in Nantucket okay that's great but you can also the amount of money that you will spend going out 4th of July weekend in Montauk she said it could pay for a weekend that is true that is very very true yeah

I know. I rented a house in the Hamptons. It rained every fucking day. And it was like right after my show at Radio City. So I was like, all right, treat everybody. We're going to go out there. It was freezing. It rained. It was $4,000 to go to an Applebee's in the Hamptons. I was like, what the fuck are we doing? I'm going to Europe. But I will say, I will say,

And I, okay. I hate to say it about specifically the New Yorkers, but I was at this really fancy hotel this summer. I was like, treat myself, use the MX points, the whole thing. And everybody at this fucking resort. Okay. It's this place called Pelicano. It's like creme de la creme was these women at the pool. Oh, my kids go to my ride country day. Where's your house? And Bridget, East Hampton. And my husband is a born and raised New Yorker was like, if this fucking bitch says one more thing about rye or Westchester,

He's like, I'm going to murder everybody at this resort. I'm like, New Yorkers are ruining Europe for everyone. They really are. I'm sorry. That's funny words. And here's the thing. They're everywhere. They're everywhere. Not only are they in Europe. If you go on a vacation to the Bahamas or Aruba, they are crawling around everywhere. You just hear it out of the corner of your ear. You hear the accent. And then you're like, yup.

They're one of me. Like, that's how I feel. And then, and like, I'm like, you know, you get like, you're like, oh God, will they just shut up me while I'm yapping away in my seat? And I'm like, I think I'm less annoying, but I'm equally, maybe even more annoying than they're being. Joe and I made friends with a couple that was in, uh,

same resort as us on safari that was they were both on their second marriage and they were on their delayed honeymoon but you know Connecticut you know they were just like the classic you know wherever it was Darien like I was like Darien Connecticut yeah hello

But what's annoying is you'll be in the pool, you'll hear some woman from Long Island screaming because she wants the service to be like New York City service. You're like, you're in Italy. Dinner's gonna last seven fucking hours. Okay? They're like, oh my God! When's he gonna come back with an Aperol Spritz? I'm like, when you go to Europe, just be fucking European. Now I'm Southern. If I heard somebody from fucking Georgia being like, I

mountain I had order in Italian I would also correct them so I just think we all need to take responsibility accountability if y'all are from up north if you hear Yankees acting like assholes in Europe say something and I'll say something to people of the southern states okay we can all do our part we can all do our part to make Europe less insufferable for you know wealthy white women to enjoy themselves you know

Like, come on. Let me live. To really just sit at the pool and not hear the people that you're with all the time. You know what? You really inspire me to, like, bask in vacation and luxury and living my life. You know what has been on the top of my list for years now? And Joe's like, why do you want to go to this place so badly? I'm like, Heather posted every fucking year and it looks so great. The Weimar and Turks and Caicos. Oh, yeah. Shout out to the Weimar and Turks and Caicos. I'm like.

It's the best place. I'm like, Jo, when are we going? Because every time Heather posts. I got you. When you want to go, I'll get you. My connection to it is we used to go down there all the time. Like when they had limestone roads and there was only like one hotel built. And then my dad was one of the developers of Waimara. And so that was our connection. And we have a place there. But I will shout out from the rooftops. I love the people of the Turks and Caicos. It's just you go down there. There's like one place to go and party. Yeah.

You go, you turn your phone off and you just fucking chill. You know what I mean? It's not a place to be seen. It's just really nice luxury, phenomenal food and you just enjoy your life. Here's my thing. I live cheaply in so many other ways though. So yes, I do luxuriate. I go on nice vacations but I also like

my financial advisor was like heather you actually don't spend money on shit you know yeah i'm always on tour and so everything's kind of like a business expense i mean i will get viciously audited by the irs i'm sure after this podcast but i they are looking into you after they are looking at me half my clothes i get for free you know what i mean my friend owned show me your muumuu brand send me shit i'm like i haven't been to a cvs in three fucking years anything you come

into my linen closet i got everything you know i mean that's a perk yeah that's why it is a perk that's a perk of getting free shit so i don't and you work hard and you deserve it and i deserve it also i deserve it you do um i forgot that still was one of the things i wanted to ask you about was you just it was like the end of the summer maybe but did you go back to camp like you did a show me your mood thing but you were back on campus yeah i did already life and

What was that? What are the sorority gals of today's age like when you're going and hanging out with them? So I was a Delta Gamma at the University of Mississippi. Shout out to my girls. Anchor up. So I went back and did a show for kickoff football season. First of all, I want to make it noted that they sent out a warning, an advisory to everybody on campus like, this is an adult show. Like Heather curses. I was like, oh,

All right, Mississippi, relax. Yeah, I was like, yeah, college, okay. She takes out her boobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll show you my vagina, actually. No, it's so wild. It's a little touch of like nostalgia and bitterness because these girls live in the sickest fucking house. And I know they bring me back because they need me to write a check. You know what I mean? Because they're still paying off the mortgage of this like $10 million renovation. I mean, you have to realize like the SEC, like where I went to school, our houses are huge.

You know, 200 girls live in the damn house and that's from one pledge class. Like, it's insane. They just have it really nice and so I go in there and I try and give pep talks to the girls, you know, before rush or whatever but then I've just started to get, it's more like scared straight. I'm like, you better get a spray tan. You better have those extensions brushed out. We are getting the good girls because I'm the alumni paying for this shit. Yeah.

And I also like we had to work our dicks off, you know, back in Rush. I'm like, these kids have it so easy. Yeah, they really do. I mean, I really hate to sound like the bitter late 30s, you know, old lady. But I had these kids and they're all doing the TikToks and all this shit. I'm like, we didn't have this. We have to go out and shake people's hands and bars. Right, right. And like really recruit. So.

Right. It's like they know exactly who the girl is before she gets to the door. It's like the social media has been stalked. They know everything. It's like they're like, oh, that's Ashley. We already know exactly who Ashley is. But there has to be something a little bit more fun about when you did it where you like meet someone for the first time face to face. And then what can you actually... I never did any of this. Can you like walk me through the entire process? Like how...

they rushed you and then how you did to other people? Okay. So I honestly, now looking back, I did not know shit when I was going through rush. I would go into houses that were like great houses. Like, okay, let me start from scratch. Okay. I'm so rained on today. Sorry. You don't, when you're rushing, you pretend like you want to go to every house. You don't let any house know that you're going to cut them. I was walking into some house like, no, I don't like the wallpaper in here. I'm not going to be here tomorrow. And then,

It's called like, they call it like a rush suicide. Like you never, you keep all your options open. I knew I wanted to be a Delta Gamma. I walked in, I was like, this is it. And then I remember one of my friend's sisters at the KD house, I also liked them. She pulled me aside, she's like, "Heather, shut the fuck up." She's like, "You tell everybody here, you're gonna be at KD tomorrow on bid day, running down the street in a green jersey, like don't you dare." I was like, "But I wanna be across the street." She's like, "Shut up, okay, Dee Dee could cut you."

um you study the girls and back in my day i went to school um like the second year facebook came out so we'd have powerpoint presentations of like three facebook photos of every girl so you're studying them you stalked them we'd have to meet them at the bars but you couldn't like be seen sitting and talking with them it was weird it was like a rule where you had to be standing and talking in a circle but if you sat it got like too personal or some shit i also had to like sit and smoke a cigarette i could never smoke cigarettes standing up it was a whole thing so you stalk

these women and then you pretend like when they come into the house, it's your first time meeting them. But you've like, you know, you know what they smell like, you know, a car they drive, like it gets really fucking creepy. And then, um, when you're on the other side of it, um, you, you know, which houses like you, where they place you in the house. Okay. They say, I'm spilling the tea. So if you're like, if you go into the Kappa house and they put you in the front, uh, they like you, you're probably getting a bit. Okay. So if you're in the back,

I just want y'all to know, if you're at the back of the Pi Phi house, it's not gonna work out, sweetie. Yeah, but I had a freaking blast. But you know, a lot of people had really dark sorority experiences. And when I saw Bama Talk and all that shit, that wasn't my experience. I showed up, I was never hazed. They gave me gifts. They were like, welcome to sisterhood. We did philanthropy work. We partied our asses off. It really was a positive experience.

So when I see stuff online, I'm like, nobody haze me. Can you imagine somebody, a young girl, trying to fucking haze me? I'm 5'10". I've got broad shoulders. I'm like, get in line, bitch. I'll stop. I will fucking kick your ass. Yeah, I find the whole thing to be terrifying just because, like you said, I have never experienced anything like this. So just from what I've seen online or TV shows, I'm like, this is an absolutely terrifying experience.

only one of my friends was in a sorority, but it wasn't at a school that was like, so, you know, like the schools that are like so into it. So I find it to be so fascinating, but like hearing your experience is so different than experiences you hear where people are like, we were hazed. They made us like, you hear like the sickest stories. Like they make girls sit on like a laundry machine and like, like all weird, weird shit. But I guess that's,

And maybe it did happen, but it's not. I'm sure it did happen, but I don't want to miss it. Now, the guys got hazed. And I don't think if I had a son, I'd ever let him be in a fraternity. Like, the shit that they got into was insane. But no, I really genuinely, like, everyone was nice. We just, like, hung out and partied together. And we had costume parties. It was not. If it has changed, then I don't want to be a part of the culture. But it was fucking fantastic. And we bought gifts for each other. And it was, like, it was phenomenal. Well, you had a dandy time.

I had a dandy time at Dill's Game in Ole Miss. But I do think I could go back one day, like again, if Jeff gets hit by a bus, I could be a house mom. I think I would thrive as a house mom. You know what I mean? I would have like loose cigarettes in my bedside drawer if the girlies are outside. I'm like, girls, who needs a bent ball? You know what I mean? Yeah.

I think it would be so fun. Oh, also for the younger people who are listening, y'all got to quit sharing the vapes. Everyone's sharing the same fucking vape. I go back to Ole Miss all the time and everyone's in the bar sharing the vape. That's how you get mono. Stop doing that. Have your own personal vape. Okay. I just want to get that off my chest. We have to wrap up, but I do want to ask an update on the actuals.

You know, we've talked about your auditions. We've talked about the stuff. Thought you'd never ask. We've talked about the sell of tapes. Thank God you brought this up to me. Thank you so much for bringing this up. Well, I haven't booked anything yet in a minute. Listen, I don't know what the fuck to do anymore. I'm a great actor, but I always get beat out for any role by Jillian Bell. Do you know who she is? Yes. Really phenomenal comedic actress, but I now tell my agents, I'm like, if Jillian Bell's booking it, or she's even auditioning, I'm not even going to submit a tape because this bitch fucking goddess.

You know, it is such a journey. My husband and I still fight when he has to help me with self-tapes. I'm just hoping that I get to a point where I've done enough of these fucking specials.

And you know, that they just go ahead and call me. Spielberg's like, "We already want you. "We don't even need you to audition." - Yeah, 'cause I feel like they could just write a movie for you at this point. - I agree. - You have such a personality that just would fit into a perfect comedy movie. Like, what are we doing here? - I have written a movie, we just sold it, and then I wrote another TV show that we're hoping gets picked up. Here's the thing, I do all this shit behind the scenes. I have like 10 scripts out.

But to get anything made is nearly impossible. So I'm just fingers crossed, everyone light a candle, say a prayer that my shows get picked up. - We will. - 'Cause I'm out here fighting for my life. - You are too funny for them not to be picked up. - 100%. - You're the best. And y'all, thank you for dealing with me today. I am sorry. I literally, it is like if somebody didn't bring me this Diet Coke, I wouldn't have made it.

I don't know if I want to throw up, take a nap. No, it's so fine. There's been plenty of times, even this is our own studio where we're like, okay, the lights, we might go down. Yeah. Sometimes I'm in the middle of the interview and then my eyes just start going in the back and I'm like, am I even in this room right now? So I appreciate the honesty of when you're just like, listen guys, I'm just not really feeling it, but let's just talk. I feel like I had a stroke earlier this morning and I've been fighting through it all day, but I love y'all and thank you for the diet coke. We love you. Please sponsor the girl. And, um,

Congratulations on the wedding. Thank you. Good luck with the upcoming wedding. Thank you. And I'll give you my number, so I'll take you to the Turks. Yeah, please. No, I got you. I got you hooked up. Guys, we got it. We got it. This is the Turks. Thank God. I can't wait to text Joe and tell him. Yeah, we're going to the Turks. I was going to text my husband. He's your husband. Isn't that wild? It is. Yeah, it is. It does feel different, doesn't it? It totally does. Yeah. Totally.

- It totally does. - It's special. You love 'em and now you know you could go to prison forever if you murdered them. - Yep, 100%. - But I just want you to know it's the best in the world. - And I was laughing when you were talking about the name thing 'cause even when we first, like obviously I booked everything for the honeymoon so like we walk into the first hotel and they're like, welcome Mr. and Mrs. Mariano.

And he's like, ah, shit. I'm like, yes. You know what you want to say? Well, if you would have planned it, if you would have booked it, if you would have done this shit, don't pipe up now, okay? Exactly. I had my spreadsheet. I planned this a year ago. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the safari. 100%. Put your little hat on and let's go see some lions. He is a great sport because he is like, he is,

to be fully Italian. So like Joe, you know, last name, he's got an Irish last name. So he's like Joe Riley, but he's like Joe Mariano is kind of like the guy I want to be. It's everything.

Everything I want to be in life. Exactly. Oh my God. That is amazing. So it fits. It's not too late. You know, it is 2024. You could take your last name. We are progressive out here for sure. Yeah, exactly. Heather, thank you so much. I love you so much. Everyone stream Breadwinner on Hulu.

I got new tour dates coming up. Heather on tour.com. We're doing the most, you know, I'll see you in the new year. And maybe you'll bump into her in Turks. I'll be there. I literally be there. Thank you, Heather. We love you. You're the best. Thank you.

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