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The Pope’s big bet on China

2024/9/10
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Noel King: 本期节目讨论了教皇方济各的亚洲之行,重点关注天主教在亚洲的增长以及教皇对中国的关注。教皇此行旨在展示其精力充沛,并促进与亚洲各国的宗教交流与合作,特别是与穆斯林世界的对话。 Francis X. Rocca: 教皇方济各对亚洲的访问次数远超前任教皇,体现了其对亚洲地区,特别是中国的高度重视。中梵关系复杂,中国政府对梵蒂冈与中国境内的天主教会的关系持谨慎态度,这导致教皇无法访问中国。中国天主教徒分为地下教会和官方教会,2018年梵蒂冈与中国达成的主教任命协议旨在协调双方关系,但该协议也存在争议,一些地下教会成员感到被背叛。中国政府推行的“中国化”政策,将天主教等宗教与中国文化和共产党的意识形态相融合,这引发了国际社会对宗教自由的担忧。教皇方济各的策略是避免中国天主教会分裂,并与中国建立关系,他被描述为一个“多极教皇”,他批评了西方秩序,并寻求与中国的接触,并不想将梵蒂冈的全部希望寄托于西方。 Jonathan Tan: 梵蒂冈对中国的兴趣与中国人对宗教日益增长的兴趣相符,文化大革命后,许多中国人寻求精神慰藉。天主教在中国的历史悠久,但由于其外来宗教的属性,与中国历代统治者的关系复杂。中国共产党接管后,由于天主教领导层主要由外国人组成,导致了与教会的冲突。中国天主教爱国会在共产党的支持下成立,其与梵蒂冈的冲突并非出于教义差异,而是权力之争。2018年的协议是梵蒂冈取得的一项重大胜利,因为它限制了中国天主教爱国会单方面任命主教的权力。“中国化”政策旨在使宗教实践符合中国的社会主义理想,但同时也引发了对其控制教会的担忧。教皇方济各希望通过与中国的和解,实现中国天主教徒的统一,并通过谈判和妥协,与中国达成双赢的局面。 Noel King: 教皇亚洲之行体现了天主教在亚洲的增长,以及教皇本人仍然精力充沛的意愿。 Francis X. Rocca: 教皇方济各与前任教皇相比,对亚洲地区的访问次数显著增多,体现了其对亚洲的重视。 Jonathan Tan: 梵蒂冈对中国的兴趣与中国人对宗教日益增长的兴趣相符,文化大革命后,许多中国人寻求精神慰藉。

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Pope Francis's Asia tour, despite his age and health, highlights the growing Catholic Church in Asia, a stark contrast to its decline in Europe and Latin America. This trip also brings him closer to China, a country he desires to visit but currently cannot.
  • Catholicism is growing in Asia.
  • Pope Francis wants to strengthen ties with China.
  • The Pope's Asia trip includes Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Timor-Leste, and Singapore.

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One of the most significant parts of Pope Francis’s Asia tour might be a country he isn’t visiting: China, home to 10 million Catholics, with whom the Vatican has long dreamed of strengthening ties.

This episode was produced by Haleema Shah, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King.

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