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Equal-opportunity murderball

2024/8/30
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Sean Rameswaram: 本期节目讨论了女子首次参加美国轮椅橄榄球队这一具有历史意义的事件,并探讨了混合性别运动的复杂性。轮椅橄榄球这项运动激烈快速,被称为“Murderball”。美国队首次有女性运动员参加,Sarah Adam 更是取得了历史性的进球。 Audrey Nelson: Sarah Adam 的加入具有里程碑式的意义。她不仅是首位参加美国混合性别轮椅橄榄球队的女性运动员,其个人经历也颇为独特。她是在诊断患有多发性硬化症之前就爱上了这项运动,并最终凭借实力和策略在残奥会上取得了成功。她认为女性运动员在比赛中需要采用不同的策略,更注重技巧和策略而非单纯的力量对抗。轮椅橄榄球运动长期以来男性运动员占据主导地位,这与脊髓损伤的性别差异以及缺乏对女性运动员的积极招募有关。在早期,这项运动的规则只允许患有特定类型的脊髓损伤的运动员参加,而这类损伤在男性中的发生率更高。此外,社会文化因素也导致女性运动员参与度较低。 Sarah Adam: Sarah Adam 认为应该有更多仅限女性参加的轮椅橄榄球队,这有助于提升女性运动员的参与度和支持度。但她同时认为,在精英级别的比赛中,不应该为了性别配额而降低竞技水平,因为轮椅橄榄球是一项精英运动,运动员需要具备很高的竞技水平。 Kathy Newman: Kathy Newman 指出,脊髓损伤在男性中的发生率远高于女性,这导致轮椅橄榄球运动长期以来男性运动员占据主导地位。 Andrea Bundon: Andrea Bundon 认为,残奥会在性别平等方面取得了进展,但仍有提升空间。她不赞成为了性别配额而牺牲竞技水平,但混合性别运动可以促进男女运动员的共同发展,并为年轻一代树立榜样。混合性别运动的目标是提升女性运动员的可见度,最终目标可能是形成男女独立的联赛。

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Sarah Adam made history as the first woman on the US wheelchair rugby team at the Paralympics. This achievement marks a significant step in co-ed sports, challenging the male dominance in wheelchair rugby.
  • Sarah Adam is the first woman to play wheelchair rugby for Team USA at the Paralympics.
  • Wheelchair rugby, also known as Murderball, is a fast-paced, full-contact sport played by athletes in wheelchairs.
  • Sarah discovered wheelchair rugby before being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, which later qualified her for the sport.
  • Only a small number of women have competed in wheelchair rugby at the Paralympics.

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The Paralympics kicked off Wednesday in Paris, and the Murderball began Thursday. You might know Murderball by its government name, wheelchair rugby, but the people who first played it called it Murderball because it's fast, it's fierce, and it certainly looks like they're trying to kill each other.

It's bumper cars, but everyone's paralyzed and also playing football. Like most of the best sports, Murderball was invented by a Canadian, but the Paralympics are bringing a historic moment to Team USA. For the first time ever, there's a woman on the Murderball squad. And Sarah Adam, an historic moment on the board. She scores the first Paralympic goal for a female wheelchair rugby player in Team USA history.

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Audrey Nelson is a freelance journalist who is obsessed with murder ball, so we asked her to tell you about the sport. First of all, you'd see athletes in manual wheelchairs, so rolling their wheelchairs with their hands, passing and dribbling a volleyball. The objective basically is to inbound the ball. We play on a regulation basketball court. You go from one end to the other end. Stop the ball! Stop the ball! Two wheels have to cross over the line with possession of the ball. Stop the ball!

Points are being scored quickly, almost out of control if you kind of don't know what's going on. And it's legal. But other than that, it's basically kill the man with the ball.

We asked her to tell you about Murderball because the sport and Team USA are having an historic moment at the Paralympics in Paris. Yeah, so Sarah Adam, she's the first woman to compete for Team USA mixed-gender wheelchair rugby. And in addition to being that first woman, she has kind of an interesting story leading up to it.

Most wheelchair rugby players get into the sport when they're doing rehab for injuries, often, not always, spinal cord injuries. But Sarah actually discovered the sport before she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. So she ended up

She was playing softball at the time. She ended up volunteering with other athletes who were playing murder ball. And she pretty much loved it from the get-go. I fell in love with not only the high-speed, full contact, but that behind that kind of high-speed, full contact was this chess match, this strategy that was really similar to what I got out of softball.

And then Sarah classifies in as a player in 2019. And what that means is basically the Paralympics is very concerned with your level of impairment. And so you're classified or sorted into these categories in many sports based on the level of impairment that you have. And so her MS had progressed enough that she qualified to play the game of wheelchair rugby at eventually at the Paralympic level.

And Sarah told me that as a woman player on a team of all men, and she's often playing on a team of all men even when she's not with Team USA, she feels like she brings something different to the game. You know, I think I as a female player, I'm not as big as my male component, so I have to play a more cerebral game. We have to play a little bit differently, we have to take care of our bodies a little bit differently, so there's things that we're managing. So in that aspect, I think it keeps it interesting.

Even though wheelchair rugby allows women, wheelchair rugby is really male-dominated. So for context, in the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo, only four women competed in wheelchair rugby out of 96 athletes total.

And only three women have ever won Olympic medals in wheelchair rugby. Why is that? So when the sport was being formalized, the people who were actually formalizing the rules made it so that the only athletes eligible to play were those with quadriplegia that was either caused by spinal cord injuries or neuromuscular conditions. And primarily the people playing the game ended up having spinal cord injuries.

And I learned this from Kathy Newman, who's the director of competitions and development for World Wheelchair Rugby. The gender split on spinal cord injuries was 80% men, 20% women. And so Kathy told me that this huge disparity is because men and boys are statistically more likely than girls and women to engage in the kinds of behaviors that

cause spinal cord injuries. So they drive more motorcycles, they end up in more car accidents, and they do face higher rates of gun violence, which are all things that can lead to these injuries. But because of that, there was this perception that you'd never be able to have a separate women's competition, that they would just always be welcome to join the men's programs.

Beyond that, though, Audrey, is there like a skill issue? I mean, are men better at murder ball than women? I mean, it depends on what you mean by better, which is also something you could say about the Olympics. But I think as Sarah kind of alluded to when talking to me,

She's saying that generally women are going to be not as big, not as strong as guys playing the sport. And that is just something that is generally true. So that's certainly something that could intimidate women out of playing. It's certainly something that could prevent women from getting into the elite level because there are these...

bigger, faster, stronger players. And it's also something that women have adapted to. Sarah says she kind of plays a more strategic game. She plays it with this kind of chess softball mindset behind it instead of focusing on these high-speed physical collisions that also make up the sport. So like, yes, men are bigger, but yes, women are smarter. You could definitely put it that way, yeah. So another issue is cultural, which is that

As Kathy Newman, the director of competitions and development at World Wheelchair Rugby, as she told me, there hasn't really been a concerted effort to recruit female players. And a lot of this is in the way Murderball gets pitched or not to young women who are recovering from injuries. So Sarah Adam, she has a friend, Mandy Masciano, who had a spinal cord injury when she was 13. And she's recovering. And here's the story Sarah told me.

She's in rehab and there's another young male with a spinal cord injury, similar spinal cord injury to Mandy. The male was watching Murderball, a popular documentary for wheelchair rugby that gets a lot of athletes involved in the sport. What we do is we take these wheelchairs and make them into a gladiator, a battling machine. And she said to the therapist, like, hey, what's that documentary? What's he watching? And the therapist said, oh, that's not for you. You don't have to worry about that. Sad. Well...

Sarah Adams making history this year. Where does she think this sport should go? Sarah drew this interesting comparison for me between the recreational and the elite levels of wheelchair rugby.

And so recreational, she's all in on women's participation and she's all in on the idea of having some kind of women's only space, which she's actually participated in and she's found a lot of value in. It was a unique opportunity to be surrounded by other women with disabilities that are going through similar things you are. Because me, yes, my male teammates and they're phenomenal, phenomenal teammates, but we have

different things that we go through and to have that support that I didn't even realize I was craving until I was around other elite female athletes. I'm like, wow, this is so nice to be around somebody who gets it in a different level. So kind of counterintuitively, she's saying to end up with more co-ed murder ball, you should have more women's only teams? Yes and no.

So she definitely thinks there should be more women's only wheelchair rugby teams. But she has kind of an interesting take at the elite level. She's supportive of men and women playing together, but she's not necessarily supportive of something like, for example, a quota system that would say you had to have a certain number of women on your team. This is how she put it to me. Whether you're male or female, you...

You can either hack it or you can't. Wheelchair rugby is an elite sport. There is an elite level. And the eliteness of that level shouldn't be brought down by involving women or men who aren't prepared to play at that level.

So Sarah's basically advocating for having an elite league that, just by virtue of physical differences and abilities, is probably going to end up being mostly male, the way it is now. And then you have a women's only league where women can compete at a high level, but also have this uniquely female supportive space. But I don't know that you're going to have enough females that would qualify for wheelchair rugby to have its own league.

Where do you think that leaves us with Murderball? I guess when I came into my reporting, I looked at the fact that wheelchair rugby was co-ed and I said to myself, that's great. You know, we're done. It's equal. Men and women play together. Like, bada bing, bada boom. Awesome. But we know from the numbers and from the testimony of people involved with the sport that that's

Not true. But I think we do this with mixed gender sports. We write them off as kind of done as we've done all we can. And in doing that, we kind of stop asking ourselves these two questions. What's best for women and what's best for the sport?

And I think that we should keep asking ourselves these questions because the answers to them are really messy and they're also really interesting and they're really productive. And so in terms of what's best for women, as I was talking to Sarah, I heard this tension between she loves her male teammates. She loves how she's kind of forced to play a different game than them, that she has her role on the team as sort of the strategist because she can't necessarily play the same role with the contact, with the physicality.

But she also breathes a sigh of relief when she's in women's-only spaces. And then in terms of what's best for the sport, I asked her straight up whether women playing with men improved the sport of wheelchair rugby. And I kind of expected a black and white answer. And maybe that's just because I've played a lot of co-ed basketball. And I kind of feel like a badass when I do it. But it was not a black and white answer. And she wasn't all in.

on support of just full mixed gender league setup, especially if that involved kind of sacrificing the quality of the sport at the highest level.

Sarah, history maker, after all of the talk, how good did it feel to actually get out there and make your Paralympic debut? Yeah, really excited to be out there. I mean, the atmosphere here is electric. Once that whistle blew, just comfortable playing rugby. Well, what do you think, though, before we go? Do you think this should be a co-ed game at the highest level, or do you think we should separate out the leagues by gender? I think it should be a co-ed league at the highest level. How come?

Because even after all of this reporting, I still think it's like super badass to watch women in this game playing against men. Like I'm going to watch their Adam this week and just absolutely lose my mind.

That was Audrey Nelson. She's a rising senior at Wesleyan University, and she was a member of the 2024 Vox Media Writers Workshop. It's a free mentorship program designed to give aspiring journalists an introduction to the industry. And fun fact, I was Audrey's mentor. You can learn more about the program at voxmediaevents.com slash writers workshop. When we're back on Today Explained, we're going to ask if more sports should be co-ed.

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Hey, time is money. Can you roll the gosh darn film? Today Explained reached out to Andrea Bundon to ask her about the challenges involved in making more sports co-ed. Andrea's not only knee deep in the subject matter as a professor focusing on the sociology of sport at the University of British Columbia, but she's also taken part in the Paralympics herself as a guide for visually impaired cross-country skiers. Both of the athletes I guide comparatively have some vision, so they can see me visually

five to ten feet in front of them. What they can't necessarily see is, is the trail going to turn? - Yeah. - What the snow conditions are. So my job is to like ski ahead and both provide sort of a visual marker that they can follow, but then also over a radio, give them information about what's happening in the race, about the tactics, about what's happening on the race course.

you know, when you need to go into a tuck, when you need to make a turn. So yeah, you're racing with the athlete. We're racing as a duo. And it was from conversations with these two women that, you know, I really became interested in Paralympic sport and the Paralympic movement.

So we heard early in the show, Andrea, that this year's Paralympics will bring the first woman ever on Team USA's murder ball squad. I wonder, you know, as someone who's thought about the Paralympics a lot, like how big a deal is that?

I think it's a very big deal in the sense that Team USA has an incredible team. They've been a dominant force in murder ball or wheelchair rugby for many years. So to have a woman on their team is significant. And the games are just starting, so the final numbers are being tallied. But it looks like there'll be eight women playing or competing, I should say, at the Paralympics in Paris this year.

across multiple teams in wheelchair rugby, and that is the highest number of women we've ever seen at the Paralympics in this sport. How does the Paralympics do on gender parity, on co-ed sports, and maybe to give people a broader sense, like, how does that compare to the Olympics? But let's just start with the Paralympics. Yeah, so, I mean, when you're talking about gender parity, there's definitely some positive developments here.

In Paris, the expectation is there's going to be 4,400 athletes competing and about 45% of those will be women, which is an increase since Tokyo four years ago, where it was about 42%. It's an increase. It's the highest number percentage-wise that we've ever seen at the Paralympics. So great news. But I think it also really matters how you're

understanding gender parity or what you think that means. So the other number we could look at is how many of the medal events are for women. So there's going to be, I think it's about 560 medal events at the Games. 235 of those are going to be for women. So less than 50, certainly. It's more medal events than four years ago, but it's still not balanced or gender parity.

So, you know, by some measures, this will be, this is really great progress in women's involvement in the Paralympic movement. By other measures, I think there is a lot of work still to be done and a lot of other numbers we could be looking at.

We heard some arguments earlier in the show, even from Sarah Adam herself, that, you know, we shouldn't just make, like, the Team USA Murder Ball squad, like, 50-50 men and women. It should be the best possible athletes, even if that means there's more men on the team than women. Do you agree with that sentiment? Absolutely. I mean, I'm not in favor of, like, introducing a quota for women on the team without...

some reason behind that. We want competitive teams. We want to see the best athletes competing. There's no denying that. I mean, another way we could look at this is what's the end game and why has Murderball taken the approach they have in terms of including women, which is, you know, we...

There's one woman on the USA team this year. Like I said, there's expected to be eight in Paris overall. Fantastic. But is the goal to use...

the mixed gender sort of label to get some women onto these teams, exceptional women, I would say, and Sarah Adam is exceptional in so many ways, onto these teams to maybe increase the visibility of women in these sports, to build the depth and to really, you know, inspire other women to participate in these sports, to get some representation. And then eventually,

get to a point where there might be enough depth and enough competition that we could see two teams at the Paralympics, a men's team and a women's team. Is co-ed sport intended to be a path to developing the women's game? Or is this the end game itself? In which case I would say we're probably only ever going to see, you know, one or two women on each team.

In some of our research, we've also spoken to women who have been on teams that are technically co-ed, but in practice, mostly men, in wheelchair rugby and para ice hockey or sled hockey is the other sport we looked at. And, you know, some of these women have really incredible experiences and really successful careers on these teams, right?

and felt they were supported and felt that they had like a meaningful role to play on these teams. Other one we spoke to talks about how this was a really, really lonely experience. Being the only woman on the team and having to break into these very often masculine spaces, often be the first woman in that space.

It was more discouraging than encouraging. And in many cases was the reason they ended their sport career or went back to playing on, let's say, less elite teams, but where they could play with more women. So is this intended to be a step towards developing the women's sport or is this where we stop?

Is there like a day you think we'll see less separation between men and women's sports at the professional level, like the NBA? You know, could a WNBA player play in the NBA one day? I know we're getting there with like refs and coaches, but do you think there's a day where we'll get there with athletes too? In some sports, it makes a ton of sense. In other sports, maybe less sense. I mean, there's...

There are biological differences between men and women, not necessarily the ones we sort of focus on. I think women can compete with men in many, many instances. But it also, I think we could be a lot more creative in how we form competitive groups and how we organize our sports. So, you know, thinking about

Does it always have to be separated based on gender or sex? Could a weight class be more relevant? There are different ways we can organize our sports. Sex-integrated or co-ed sports could serve one purpose, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't also be teams for women or other instances where it does make sense to have gender-segregated sports.

I mean, one of the things I love about co-ed sports is that it does create an incentive for whether it's your national team, your national organization or your local club or your high school track team to invest in both men and women. Right. So you've got a really, really great track program at your high school, but you have a lot more.

men and boys competing, then women, and suddenly the regional championships introduces a mixed relay.

You're suddenly going to be a lot more interested in recruiting a few more female athletes to the program, right? And making sure that they're getting the support they need so that you can enter a really competitive mixed team and maintain your championship title. The other thing I like is that, you know, it's really important for women or for girls to see women represented in sport. We know a lot about the role of having role models, of being able to see yourself. But I would say it's almost...

Maybe even more important that like men watch women play sport. And, you know, we know a lot more women watch women playing sport than men watch women playing sport. So a mixed event might be the only time a young boy actually watches a woman compete. And that has incredible benefit as well for them to see and to recognize the athleticism of women. I think mixed sport, co-ed sports are like really incredible opportunities that way.

Andrea Bundin, School of Kinesiology, University of British Columbia. Halima Shah produced. Matthew Collette edited. Laura Bullard fact-checked. Rob Byers and Patrick Boyd mixed. I'm Sean Ramos for Mets Today Explained. Watch some Murderball this weekend.