Going Back to College (ft. the Alix Earle Scholars)
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I'm so excited for this episode because this is the first time that I've really had on guests that aren't like friends or family and I think you guys are really going to enjoy this episode. As I've been spending some time in Miami, I've kind of been on my like chilling at home three weeks, recouping, getting my life together and I got lunch with the students on the Alex Earl Scholarship and when I tell you that they are just the best students in the entire world and I'm gonna...

walk you through all of this because some of you might be like what scholarship what are you talking about what students and I basically started a scholarship in my name when I graduated the University of Miami it's called the Alex Earl Scholarship and I started that when I was graduating the University of Miami my senior year which was in May which was a year ago now which is absolutely insane and I don't know how this year flew by so fast it's actually disgusting

But I feel like my life changed at the University of Miami. And I always say this, like I had such a good support system there. And I truly like believe that that support system got me to where I am today. And I had people that believed in me. So when I kind of

came to Arise on social media. I wanted to do something to give back and be a support system for other people and have them follow their dreams and just be a good inspiration for others. So I started this scholarship and it was supposed to be one student in the business school and

It was supposed to be a little bit more women-focused, women in business. So before I get into the details of the scholarship, I'm going to take you guys back to me even wanting to go to UMiami, finding out about getting in there because it was such a dream school for me and I honestly didn't think I was going to get in. I remember touring my junior year of college and when you walk onto the UMiami campus, it's a resort.

like this is nothing you've ever seen before in your life and i was blown away i fell in love with everything the campus the school the people there just the vibe and i was like this is number one dream school like i'm so excited like i have to go to this school and i remember coming back to new jersey at the time and talking to my college counselor and i was like you miami's my number one pick i love it there like i really want to go and she sat me down and looked me straight in the face and was like alex

You need to take that off your list because you're never going to get into the University of Miami. And I felt like my dreams in that moment were just, like, crushed. And, I mean, I guess she was trying to be realistic with me, but...

I ended up getting in, so sorry, but she was pretty brutal and harsh, and it just really crushed my dreams for a moment there. So I applied to the University of Miami, but I never actually thought it was going. In my mind, I just had applied. I was like, okay, that would be a big reach for me, but I'm never going to get in there. And I mean, I was a good student. I had good grades, so I didn't know why she was very...

adamant on me not getting in there, I guess, because it's such a competitive school. And even more so now, it's actually, it's like Harvard. Like, you can't get in. Like, everyone is, I feel like everyone's applying to go to University of Miami. So it's actually very difficult and competitive to get in. And I applied to all these other schools. I kind of just got it out of my mind that I wasn't going to the University of Miami. But that did not stop me because I was so determined to get into this school. I remember, like,

looking up online, like, what's the best way to get into college? Like, who do you have to talk to? How's the best way to stand out? Like, is it the essay that you write? Like, how do you get in? And I actually harassed the whole University of Miami, like, staff, council, and

everyone who was on the administration office. So when I went on the college campus tour, any professor that I met, any teacher, any administration, I jotted down their email. It was like, oh my gosh, so nice to meet you. Like, can I have your email just in case I want to reach out for anything in the future? Like a stalker. And I was a stalker. I also got emails from online. I just looked up University of Miami staff, University of Miami Business School. And I just

went online found emails of people who I thought were like the most important and I sent so many emails like hi this is Alex Earl just toward the school like it was so amazing like if there was anything I can do um to you know talk to anyone or anything to get in or anything to make me stand out like I actually harassed all the people and I don't think anyone really ever answered I think I got a few answers or they were like very bland they're like okay amazing sweetie like I don't know what you want me to do for you but I actually I've

could probably find these emails if I searched hard enough.

and emailed every single person in the business school from University of Miami because I was so determined to get in. And I thought that maybe that would help me stand out in some type of way. When in reality, there's so many people applying there. So I don't know that they probably weren't like, oh, this girl emailed me. Like, let's put her on the list. Like, I don't know why I thought that would work. But I just remember doing like everything in my power to try and get into the school. And I just had it set that I wasn't getting in because my college counselor was like, Alex, give it up.

give it up. It's not happening. Get it out of your mind because she was like, you're just going to be let down if you think that you're getting in here. And I remember the day that the University of Miami acceptance letters came out. It was my birthday. I was in New York City with my family and

I was sitting there and I went on my Instagram stories and I saw other girls from my school that had applied and they got in and I was like, oh my god, the acceptance letters came out. What do I do? Do I look? Do I not look? I'm at my birthday dinner with my family right now. If I open my email and I didn't get in, this is just going to ruin the whole thing. I'm just going to end up being a total bitch on my birthday. I'm

screw my family I'm literally gonna sit there in silence and cry but I just was so anxious to see if I got in or not and obviously excited so I opened my email at my dinner and my family's looking at me and they're like Alex what are you doing I was like no don't look at me then I'm head down in my phone I'm like struggling I'm like I don't remember my password to log in how do I do this and I opened the email and it says congratulations Alex Earl you got into the University of Miami I

I just got chills saying that like I started bawling my eyes out at this dinner. It was such like a fun birthday dinner. I was not expecting to get in at all and I was so beyond excited and from that moment like that was the school I wanted to go to. I opened that letter and I was like I will be going there. After the school I was like let's just resend my application like I'm not going there. I'm going to the University of Miami and

I feel like from that day on, my life just changed and my four years at that school, I mean, you guys know I talk about it all the time. You're probably like, shut up by now. I just loved it, loved everything about it. I had the best four years and it truly changed me so much as a person. Like I came out of that school so different than the person I went in as. I

grew so confident. I learned so much. The school also just challenged me in ways that I feel like other schools may have not. And it's just a really great environment there. I learned so much about myself, about others. Going to this school felt like such a dream for me. I didn't take it for granted.

I literally, kid you not, I would walk around campus every day freshman year, come back from class. I would call my dad and I'd be like, thank you so much for sending me here. I love it so much. I would cry like every day. Like I, you guys probably think I'm lying right now. I'm not. Like I just have such an emotional attachment to this school because I, it was my dream school and I never thought that I would get in. And when I was there, it was even better than I expected. And

it was really the best four years ever. So at the end of my four years, I wanted to do something to give back. I also was in a position that I never had expected to be in when I was graduating. And I wanted to be a source of inspiration or just like a big sister to other students at the school because there was some students that were older that like helped me through and really showed me the way. And I think that's really important to like

have someone who believes in you when you're in college just because it can be scary and you can get very lost and feel like oh this is stupid what am I doing and it's intimidating especially at Miami just because it's such a big city there so I knew that this was something I wanted to do

I talked to the school, the staff about doing the scholarship. They wanted to do it and we got it into the works. It was originally supposed to just be for one student. We have two students on it now for a student in the business school. It was kind of aimed more to be a woman in the business school and it would be for someone going into their junior year. So it would take them through their junior and senior year of the scholarship. But

the reason we didn't do freshman sophomore year is because sometimes people's majors change like when I was talking to the school I was like well why wouldn't we do like freshman through senior and they're like well some people start in the business school then they change and they were like by junior year you have a little bit more of like a clear pathway on what you're going to do so they suggested doing junior and senior year the school put out the application it was a big announcement I was very excited about it and then as the students were applying the

That whole end of the spectrum, the school dealt with. Like, I'm not allowed to see every student who applied and, like, handpick because obviously that's just not how scholarships work because people can be biased and whatnot. So the school had reached out to me after everyone applied and they –

you know, had to vet through everyone who was an applicant for it, you know, who met the criteria, yada, yada, yada. And they basically were like, Alex, we have something to propose to you. We don't know how you're going to feel about this. But they were like, we really strongly feel that you should go with two students instead of one. And I was like, okay, like,

Why? Like, what changed? And they basically were like, well, there's a girl that we really love for the position, but there's also a guy. And they were like, we want you to watch both of their videos that they made. And they're so moving, so heartwarming. They're both great candidates for the scholarship. And they're both really, really good.

They were like, just watch the videos that they made. So it was actually, it was Leslie and Elias. And they were like, just watch them, see what you think. And immediately after watching these videos, I remember being in tears at the end of both of their videos. They were so...

moving and motivating. Elias actually made like literally a whole movie and then Leslie made more of like a get ready with me style video talking about just her life, her family, why she thought she'd be a good candidate for the scholarship and both of their videos were so moving and their stories. So it was like a no-brainer to me. I was like of course like let's do two students. This is so exciting and I said from the second that I started this scholarship that

I wanted it to feel like a community and I wanted it to be like I was a big sister to them and I feel like everyone was kind of like oh she's just bullshitting us right now like she's not actually gonna hang out with these kids she's not actually gonna spend time with them like this is just something she's doing like put her name on put it out there whatever and I

I have actually met with these students a few times now. We have gotten so close. Like I literally text them. I feel like we're friends at this point. That was like the first thing. And obviously I didn't want to be too pushy because at first I didn't know if they even wanted to meet me or talk to me or wanted to be involved with me at all. And I went through the school when they ended up receiving their notification that they got the scholarship and we set up a lunch and I got to know them and they're just amazing.

the most amazing people ever. Like they just have such a positive energy and a light surrounding them. Like every time I hang out with them, I leave and I go home and I just have the biggest smile on my face. Like they motivate me and they inspire me and they're such great students. They're great people. They're hard workers. And I think they just have really strong, compelling stories. So when I had lunch with them,

We were talking about the idea of, you know, having them come on Hot Mess and share their stories because obviously they're the first example of students on the Alex Earle scholarship. And I think that they're a really good inspiration for getting other people to apply to the scholarship once they graduate because they're going into their senior year right now. Elias is graduating in December and then Leslie's graduating in May. So she has another year.

But there will be two more students after them. So we just decided to go with two from now on. And they were like so thrilled, so excited. They were like, we want to share a story. Come on, talk with you. Talk to the Earl girls. And they really are just the best. And I think it's important for them to learn.

come on and speak and know that there is help out there for any student who wants to get a degree but maybe needs some financial help and you know just knowing that that's normal and that's okay and you're not alone in that and there is help out there and there's ways around it so I'm going to have them on we're going to campus to go sit down with Leslie and Elias and this is going to be such a fun episode you guys are going to love them so much like they are they're I

I don't even know. They're better at podcasting than me. They are so amazing. So let's go back to where it all started, the University of Miami. We're going back again. I haven't been back in like six months, but you know, just once more. Every like six months, I got to pop into campus. We got to see how it's going. So we're going to go sit down and talk with them at campus. Let's go. ♪

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Elias and Leslie, welcome to Hot Mess. Wake up. Thank you. They came in matching uniforms today, honestly. Yes. Oh my God. Exactly. I love it so much. No, we're getting right into it. So who picked the outfit out first? Yeah, let me- Because you guys were texting about outfits. Let's expand on the story then. Okay. Let's expand on the story. Okay. Do you want to go first? I'll start because considering that I was first- No, please. You have the floor. So last night at what? 9 p.m.? I texted you, hey, Alex. No, excuse me.

Hey, Leslie. Should I wear a white shirt and black jeans or a white shirt and blue jeans? And you said, black jeans are good. And I said, okay, perfect. And then what happened? Okay. I would like to start off by saying...

I have the text to prove it. That was not what you said. He was like, hey, should I do like black jeans or should I do like regular denim? Something like that. And I was like, go for black jeans. And then today in the morning, I like text him. Mind you, I've tried on like 17 different outfits. I've like...

FaceTime so many different people. Like the council agreed on this outfit. There's like five different people behind me backing this. So I text him when I'm on my way. I'm like, by the way, I'm wearing a white top and black jeans. Like I'm already a dress. So you knew before you showed up here. But the problem was I already had it all. He was taking your advice strongly though about the black jeans comment. Exactly. No, I can't. You just wanted to match me. You want to be me so bad. Black.

I'm a girl, though. I'm just a girl. That was the difference. Yeah. Okay, fine. She's just a girl. I won. That's what I say about everything. I'm just a girl. Right? I'm saying. Wait, so are you guys friendly now? Because I feel like from the first time that we had lunch and then you guys were talking about how she introduced you to talkies and everything. So you guys hung out? Oh, no. Me and Elias, we're besties. Oh, my God. I love that. And is that how you met the first time when we had lunch? That was the first time we'd ever met.

No way! We should introduce you guys, maybe where you're from, how you got to U-Miami, or how you wanted, or how you found U-Miami. I'm from, like, the Bronx in New York City. I wasn't familiar with the college process, and, like, none of my family was either. So I went to boarding high school up in Philly, and so I was already away from my family for, like, four years at that point. Yeah.

And so my family was like, you know, like, since you've been away, why don't you come to a college that's, like, near us? Yeah. So almost every college I applied to... Yeah. And so, like, every college I applied to was all, like, New York and, like, the city or upstate. So I had, like, a couple choices. It was, like, Binghamton or, like, RIT. But, like, I wanted someplace like Chapel Hill. Like, I can't do the cold anymore. Yeah. Like, I can't do it. So then...

I literally searched up the most beautiful campuses in the United States. And then U of Miami was the number one. It is the most beautiful. I applied. And nobody knew I applied. And so I just applied. I paid for it. None of my family knew. And then...

I got accepted and I showed my mom and she was like, she was like, oh, like, thanks. Well, now you have to go. Because it's like a huge honor to get accepted here because the acceptance rate is crazy now. So that's really exciting. And you didn't tell anyone in your family? I literally told nobody. And then like when I showed my mom, she was like, oh, yeah, like there's no way you're going to stay in New York now. Yeah. Thanks for that. But like it turned out to be like the best thing because like now she wants to move here and she loves it.

I know that's my family too. They're like, I would love to move down to Florida. They're like, what have we been doing in New Jersey? They're like, Alex is off at school tanning by the pool in between classes. And my parents are like freezing cold going to work in the morning. And they were like, this is just like insane. So my family definitely wants to come down to Florida. My name is Leslie and I'm from West Palm Beach, but my family is from Jalisco, Mexico.

And I came to UMiami because I love the city of Miami. I knew I wanted to be in Miami no matter what. So I actually only applied to two schools because I'm like, it's Miami or nothing. So I applied to UM and FIU as like, like kind of like a backup. And I got into UMiami and I was like, perfect.

that's it let's go I love it and I just like loved you Miami I played volleyball and I came here for like a volleyball it was like a tournament or a camp or something and like once you see the campus you like fall in love I feel like Miami is one of those schools that you get in and it's like okay we have to like go we have to make this work like I will be there

That's how I remember. My dad actually didn't want me to go to Miami. He was, for some reason, against it. I think probably because it's Miami. And he was like, I think he knew me. And he was like, she's going to get into some trouble in that city. And he was like, I really just, I think you should go to like a smaller school or just, I don't know, more of like a college town vibe. Because I will say that's the thing about Miami is there's the campus and then you're in the city of Miami. Like we don't really have like a college town, I would say. I feel like Coconut Grove is maybe the most like,

towny, little town vibes that we have with, like, bars, but it's really, like, the campus, and then you have the whole city. So when I got in, I mean, I applied, and my dad was like, I don't think you should go there, but apply, see what happens, and I didn't even think I was going to get in at all, and I got in, and it was immediately, like...

bawling my eyes out and my family saw my reaction and they were like, okay. The day I got in, my parents were waiting for me to open the announcement. They got a mariachi band. No! No!

i'm being so serious and like i didn't know before you no they didn't know i'd gotten in they just got one like backup oh just just a backup mariachi fan just in case my parents like love any excuse like they're they love mariachi music like my family is very very very mexican so they like had one like just on call like i was in my room because i was like i need to open it alone yeah like i need to be by myself and like as i'm upstairs opening it they're like sneaking them into the living room

And then I was like, what if I didn't get in? And they're like, they can play sad songs too. I was like, oh. Perfect. I remember the first time we met, you literally brought me a gift basket filled with Mexican goodies. I got Mexican candy. Now I'm hooked on Mexican candy. It's so good. That makes me so happy. There's like the little chocolate with the little tiny spoon. The duvaline. Yes. Yeah.

that right that I didn't know what any of it said but I was like I'm just gonna try this and it was so good wait I don't know if I ever told you guys this but so the way the scholarship worked from like my end is the school goes through the vetting you know see who's qualified for it and everything and it was really just supposed to be one student not two and they sent me the

this long email and they're like can we get on a call because there are two students like that we think are really good for this scholarship and they were like we can show you their videos but they were like I think you're going to like love both of them and they're like I think we need to do like two people for this scholarship instead of one and I was like okay so I watched your guys videos first of all Leslie made a get ready with me which was so amazing and I was literally like this is so funny and I loved it it was so sweet

Elias made a whole movie. Yeah. Like a whole movie. Actually a whole movie and it was so good and I was like, okay, we're taking two. Like we're doing two. We have such a funny story. Okay.

about them videos so after we met the first time at the lunch me and we obviously like all got each other's numbers yeah and like elias and i texted and we're like oh we need to hang out we need to like talk more about this like this is so crazy so we decided to go out and get like dinner um one day and we were like talking about this and we're like oh my god like this is insane like this is crazy and

I had no idea it was supposed to be only for one person. Elias is the one who told me, he had no idea. He's like, they couldn't pick between our videos. And I'm like, oh my God.

And then I was like, wait, that's crazy. What was your video? Because we hadn't seen each other's videos. We had no idea what we did. She's like, what was your video? And I was like, oh, me and my brother. We made a whole movie. We filmed in New York and kind of showed the progression of our life. And I was like, what did you do? He told such a touching story. He was like, how did you guys come up with these videos? At the time that this was happening, my brother had just finished a film program specifically for film. And so like,

since we both love film we were like what can we do to like make this like

show who I am like as a person and so we were like okay considering that like I take the train every day because at that time I was working in Times Square we could show like my progression from like growing up in the Bronx to like where I want to be and so like the video we start off in the Bronx and we take a train and like the train represents like the timeline of my life and then like it goes along and we get off at the last stop of the train which is like

the New York Stock Exchange and it's like kind of like finding it's like where I want to be and so like we just kind of like edited it out and like oh my god my brother's a godsend because like we stood up all

all night, like ending this video and like he was mastering the audio. Yeah. So like it was, it was, it was a crazy process, but like I couldn't do it. I couldn't do that without my brother. So like, shout out to Chris. I was in like tears at the end of the video. I was like, oh my gosh, this is insane right now. And it was just so well done. I was like, I could never put together a video like this. It was crazy. But yeah, so originally the scholarship was, well, it's for students in the business school and

and we were thinking more female, just like women in business, you know. That was kind of the angle we were going with it, and then we saw your video, and I was like, well, shit.

That was literally something that we had talked about because my brother was like, this scholarship has a focus on women. And I was like, yeah, I mean, absolutely. She said everybody's welcome. And so like, I was like, I'll just do it because it's good practice for both of us. And we wanted to do a short film anyway. Yeah. And I was like, this is kind of an amazing opportunity. And so like once I got the call, I was like, this is insane. Like this is not real. Yeah. It was crazy. Elias is such a girly pop though. He's like, he's definitely an Earl girl. Like he's fine. He's fine.

Are you an Ur-Girl? I'm an Ur-Girl now, 100%. You have no choice now. You have no choice. So did your parents always want you guys to go to college or was that something your family...

like, that was important to your family, or was that kind of more so your decision? I think my parents definitely always pushed higher education. I'm first generation, so ever since, like, I was younger, my parents were always, like, college, college, college, like, that's the goal, and I'm really happy that I was, like, exposed to that, because, like, since a young age, it was never something about if I'm going to go or not. It's, like, I'm going to go. How am I going to do that? And I think that's something that's, like, it

extremely important and necessary because especially like as a Latina we need more Latinas in like government positions like as doctors and and the way to do that is truly like higher educations the doors that have like opened to me since like coming here it's like insane it's amazing and I don't think I would have ever been able to achieve that any other way I think it's unlike any school to be honest like coming here as a freshman like

this school has like exposed me to so many different things and I feel like it has made me able to communicate with anybody. Yeah. Like in any venue because it throws you into so many different environments and circumstances and like you're forced to talk and like it just it kind of brings you to a point where you feel comfortable with around anyone. It's funny because like college was never like

an option for me when I was young. Like it didn't seem like reality. Yeah. Cause like everybody around me, like it was just never in the question. Like it was never in the cards. And so like it took me going to boarding school and like kind of being away from my environment to like put me in the mindset where I was like, you know, this is something that's possible and it's something that I can't achieve if I work hard enough. And like being accepted to Miami, it was like, it was a huge honor, but my family kind of was like,

they were nervous. Like they didn't know like what to do because like the entire college process I had figured out by myself. Like my, my mom like really didn't know how to do much of, much of any of the things in terms of like forms and documents. And so,

Once I got in, she was like, no matter what, we're going to figure it out. But we're going to make this happen. I love that. It's definitely uncharted territory. No one's ever done this before. So it's a lot of experimenting and stuff, which is why it's so helpful to have somebody like you two to guide us. Because sometimes you don't really know what you're doing. And also, it's very intimidating. It is. I think this school is like...

such amazing exposure, like Elias said, but it is intimidating being like in rooms with people that have such different mindsets, which is like super beneficial now. But I think for the longest time, you definitely get like imposter syndrome, I feel. But I've kind of like come to realize that if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. And I think a lot of the times it's like I'm in rooms with people who have

goals and aspirations and things that would have never come to my mind naturally. But I'm like, wait, the people around me are being like, I'm going to do A, B and C. Yeah. I'm in the same room as you. I can also do A, B and C. I think that's something I noticed even my

freshman year of college coming here and just being in a room where there's people from all around the world and people that even felt so much smarter than me and I remember just the way they would answer the teacher have things to say and I was like oh my gosh I was like they're so much smarter than me like they know what's going on and I have no idea about any of this and I think that was definitely intimidating at first and then once you go throughout college it it

teaches you to not only learn from them but also be a little bit more outspoken yourself like I was definitely so much quieter freshman year and like so much more to myself I don't know if you guys feel that but I it definitely made me like come out of my shell and like push myself I think another thing is like U Miami is such a unique school because it's not your like average school in like a college town which we were like kind of talking about so I think

A lot of times in college, from what I've talked to and like my friends that go to other schools, it's like college is kind of like this in-between between like adulthood. And I feel like since we're like in a big city, it's like you're kind of pushed immediately into like adulthood because like the city is like our playground. Like when we go out, we're going out like in like Miami, clubs, restaurants, you're dealing with like adults and like, oh, so it's just like,

the like situations and like rooms we're in are like very adult situations. So I think at the beginning, it's definitely a little more difficult to adjust, but I feel like now I'm like on another level, like maturity and just...

career goals everything because for a lot of people it was the first time living alone and so like when you're in like a college town it's like you you kind of adopt the culture of like college kids whereas like we were thrown into somewhat of an adult environment because of the way like the university's place so it definitely forces you to like go out your comfort zone but then also like look at everybody else and like

kind of make sure that you're in line with what others are doing and it just forces you to push yourself further than you think you would be able to. Yeah. In class, do you ever go up to people or like make friends with people that are in your class or like not really?

Are you scared of that? I do that all the time, actually. But usually it's because like in finance, if I'm in like a three or 400 level course, I need to have friends like in the course. Like it would be impossible to get through without them. And so like usually like, I don't know. I feel like people here are very like open and friendly. And so like I found that all it would take is like me like cracking a joke or like turning around and being like,

What even is this subject and exactly it's an immediate click that was something that I would get super intimidated because when I didn't know what was going on or like had a question and I was like, oh my gosh, everyone else in the room around me knows what's going on I'm the only one who doesn't know what's going on and then you like turn to the person next to you and you're like wait What is this and they're like, I literally have no idea. I'm so lost. It's like so refreshing and I think like I

I don't know, you make the best friends in class. Like class friends are the best. And you just like, you really go through it together. It's an emotional experience. You're like, you're going through a lot. What's like the biggest difference you feel now as opposed to like who you were freshman year? Or like, how have you changed? Or like, what have you taken away from being here? I think the biggest thing is just confidence, like in myself and like who I am as a person. Like I'd say that's got to be the biggest thing because like coming here freshman year, I

I was a spring admin. So I came here like at the peak of COVID. So not only was everybody wearing masks, like my orientation class was very small and everything was like so like secure. I forgot you came here during that time. And so like it was like it was unnerving because not only is it like you're going to college for the first time, it's a new culture. Like you have to kind of find your way. It's like now all I see is people's eyes.

yeah everybody's like good luck making friends exactly like all the 10 feet distance six feet apart 10 feet apart so like even in class it's like i'm trying to make a friend that i'm like yo like or when they had they had like the shields yes do you remember that all the shields even in the dining hall yeah yeah shield yeah they had shields oh yeah there was like big like folder things in the classrooms like like clear like yeah yeah there was like a clear glass in front of you after

because you're because you're like older yeah yeah like even the dining hall where like most of the people like kind of like sit down i didn't even think you couldn't sit down it was you had to get the food and leave really so it was so that is a weird freshman experience it was so hard ours was kind of like it was kind of good because if you got covid you would get like sat to like i think it was thesis across the street and you got like that's where i lived yeah and that was like there's

like half hotel, half apartments. And the hotel was literally like the sick space for like students who got COVID. They got sent away there. But it was like a nice hotel. I was like, honestly, that's like a very nice stay. They were like vibing. No, they upgraded. They upgraded. They would get like meal vouchers. They would like Uber Eats. They'd be like at the pool and stuff. When it first started, the quarantine, like when you were sent to quarantine, it wasn't eating.

so like everybody was sent to eat i remember that it was terrible and then like the meals were terrible once people started getting like uber eats for quarantine you know like this is really going to go into the nice hotel with the outdoor pool and the room service everyone was like all of a sudden i'm also feeling sick i actually can't go to class today either

Um, wait, we got so off track there. What was your biggest takeaway? Oh my God. I was such a different person freshman year. I think I've just like matured a lot. Cause you just, you just forget, like when you're coming in freshman year, you're basically like a senior in high school, which is like, you're like a teenager, you're a baby. And also like it had just been COVID. So I'd been alone in my room for like a year before that too. So I think

I think I've just matured so much. I definitely think like I'm a different person. And that's like the funny thing. I think going to college, I've learned a lot like in an educational sense, but also just a personal sense, being confident in myself and also just like being at peace with myself and being happy with my achievements. I think another thing that comes with going to a school that's so...

competitive and it's like very rigorous is like I was talking about imposter syndrome and also it's comparing yourself to others. And I think we talked about this a little bit the first time we met and comparison is like a very common thing and like normal thing to do at the school. And I think I've grown to a point where I'm happy with what I'm doing. I mean, no, I'm like on my journey and on my path and like

somebody else's gain isn't my loss like there's abundance there's enough for everybody to go around and I think that mindset has really changed my perspective on everything I'm gonna end up where I like I need to be and there's nothing I could just have to keep doing me my answer when I was kind of like thinking about what I was gonna ask you guys I was like I think I'm just so much more confident than I was freshman year like you really just like learn so much about yourself in college and like you said there's such a good sense of community here and I

It is like a competitive school. And I think it also pushes you to do better and get out of your comfort zone. Once you graduate, what I've noticed is seeing people and it's only been a year for me, but just like, you know, they say canes care for canes, but like, it's really true. Like everyone, there's such a sense of community where it's like, if someone's doing something in some way and they can help you out in another, or I don't know, connect you to anyone. It's just like, you know, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's just like, it's

you really feel that sense of community, especially even after graduating and you become an alumni. So sad that I'm an alumni, but I'm like literally the fifth year, sixth year creeper, like coming around. I'm like, how many times can I get back on campus? I'm a senior now, technically, because I just finished my junior year. I'm like screaming, crying, throwing up. I don't want to leave. I'm so sad. It's really horrible. I'm not going to lie. Graduation was like top,

10 worst days like so it was literally just bawling my eyes out the whole time I was like I can't I can't do this because it's so amazing here both of you guys are planning to stay in Miami after graduation right or that's the hope yes I'm like a Miami girl now I can't leave

Yeah, that was like me. I was like, I'm staying here. You guys both have internships this summer, which is really exciting. Do you want to tell us a little bit about those? And you're both staying here. I have the luxury of mine being like, I could choose between being a person and remote. But since I wanted to stay in Miami, I was like, oh, I really want to do remote if I could. So I'm working at Ford this summer because last year I did private equity. And so I

I thought like okay I've kind of experienced the bank world a little bit let me see how it is on the corporate side and so I'm working for Ford Motor Credit Division and so they kind of handle like dealerships and giving out like loans financing and so like I'll be helping to assist them and that'll

Yeah. So it'll be a good experience. I'm excited. And you're a big car fan. Yeah, I'm a huge car fan. It's literally like my dream brand. Like I grew up working on Fords. Like I grew up like building Mustangs. And so like it was the perfect brand. I remember going into the interview and I was like, there's not a question you can ask me that I will know about this company. Like this is my company. Well, congrats.

on that. Thank you. This summer, I'm so excited for my internship. I'm going to be interning for Inner Miami, which I cannot wait for because... That's going to be so exciting. I'm so excited. And everything is pink, which is amazing. I love that. And also, I'm such a big...

messy fan specifically like my dog's name is messy so you were telling me that's perfect and he's like 13 like I've been a fan and I like played soccer my whole life so I can't wait but I'm gonna be doing the partnership development side so it's more of their corporate office and

And I'm really excited because I'm going to be able to see like the behind the scenes of contracts and like maybe like the legality of it. It's like I'm pre-law. So I'm very excited about that. Yeah, that's exciting. Well, congrats to both of you. Thank you. Great internships. And I'm excited to see where you go when you graduate.

I'll be right here cheering you on. To an Inter-Miami game. Yes. Trust. So I have a game. It's Would You Rather, but it's like University of Miami edition, so don't be scared. Would you rather stay on campus or explore Miami on the weekend? Explore Miami on the weekend. Definitely. Wait, you're a big explorer.

We grazed over this part that you get up every morning and go to Key Biscayne on the bridge to watch the sunrise. Yes, I love to wander. I'm such a big wanderer. I wish I could do it every morning. It's not every morning, but I try like maybe like once a week. I love sunrises. That's still a lot to get up that early in college. I feel like college is like the opposite schedule. You also play volleyball on campus. Yes, I try to do...

every Friday but with schedules it doesn't work but usually on Fridays you I'm like at the lakeside sand courts playing volleyball with my friends that's like the best thing about this campus is the volleyball court because I would come with my friends and granted I was like not that good at it but we would have so much fun playing volleyball at night so like what do you do on like a random week night it's like oh let's just

go play volleyball. Would you rather come to U Miami with high school friends or come in freshman year knowing no one? I feel like knowing no one is the best thing you could do. Coming here, like, you need to experience it for what it is and, like,

getting through that like awkward phase is what's gonna make you so like I feel like yeah 100% if I had high school friends coming in I feel like I just would have stayed yeah exactly you stayed the same person you would have stayed not branched out yeah I love meeting new people that was me like freshman year I came in knowing not one person and I was like oh my gosh I would do anything to like

Have someone I'm from high school with coming here too. And like just any sense of like knowing someone. And I was so uncomfortable with that. And then it really pushes you out of your comfort zone. And I like never would have changed anything about that. Would you rather have the U Miami dining hall or Postmates? Oh, God.

see i feel like this is dependent on the year you're here because i feel like you like freshman and sophomore year you have to experience the dining hall like it's it's okay it's necessary i'm so glad you said that because my freshman year i mean granted university of miami best school ever the dining hall food sometimes it's not the best that's a nice way but my freshman year i was like a

obsessed with it and loved it and I wanted to go all the time and I had so much fun in the dining hall and my one friend was literally like that food's disgusting and she would order food for every meal and I was like

First of all, I don't know how you're ordering food for every single meal. But second of all, I was like, I kind of weirdly like the food, even though it's kind of gross. And the biggest vibe is late night dining. Late night dining. Late night dining. That is the best. It was the best. That was the best. Oh my gosh. And you just come back from going out and I'm like, fries, pizza, like, oh my gosh, so good. Late night dining is the best. Late night dining. I would say I miss late night dining. Would you rather take a law final or an accounting final?

Law. Law so fast. Well, you're studying law. The way that I want to say law a little bit. No. I don't think so. I feel like it's dependent on the professor, though. I think, like, law is easier to understand as an introduction. Like, if you're taking, like, BSL 212, I think it's easier. Okay. I think it's easier. Wait a damn minute, because... I don't even know where this is going.

I took the business law intro to business law final and I'm a procrastinator. I thought I could do it the night before. I was like, let me just cram for this. That intro to business law final is a full blown. They put it down a novel. It is thick.

And you have to go through. And it's not that it's hard. It's just a lot of memorization. And I like didn't put in the time to memorize everything. So that final, I sat down and I was like, like, I just remember everyone around me like writing immediately. And I was like, I'm screwed. I'm so screwed right now. Like, I don't know anything that's going on. Would you rather jump in like Osceola? I don't know if I said that right. Or lick the floor of Sandbar? Oh my God. Oh my God. That's, is that even a question? I feel like.

I will pet an alligator before I lick Sandbar. I'll play mermaids in, like, Osceola before I ever lick the floor of Sandbar. Before we even... Let's even step foot in Sandbar. Honestly, I feel like licking the floor of Sandbar, like, may send you straight to the hospital and you're dead. Oh, yeah. 100%. You have to get a replacement tongue. No. No, I don't know what's on the floor of Sandbar, but I also, like... There's a little turtle in there right now. Oh, my God. There is a turtle. Oh, my God. It...

Having a lake on campus is the biggest treat. It's so pretty. Would you rather have a messy roommate or an intense clean freak? I don't know how to answer this. Intense clean freak. I think I am the messy roommate, unfortunately. Really? I'm not super messy. You give off intense clean freak. Thank you so much. She's not. She's not messy. She's not messy. I'm telling you, you're not messy. There's no weight.

I had a messy zoom in. I'm going to have to take you to my room and show you real messy. She thinks she's messy and she's the clean one. Yeah. Literally. Yes. That's what I'm saying. There's no way that you're messy. I don't believe it. I think my problem is just like, I have so much clothes and I like, I'm bad at folding. Your version of messy is that your clothes aren't in like, color order or something. Yeah.

Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. No, because I had a messy roommate. Like messy to the point where like I had to like leave the room sometimes.

Like I'll never, yeah, I'll never do that again. I'll never do that again, bro. Clean all the way. My roommate that I lived with all four years of college, because I tend to be a little bit more on the messier side. I wouldn't say like gross or disgusting, but just a little bit like some things are out of place, you know, or leave them in the living room, like whatever, throw them on the floor. And my roommate all four years of college was a clean freak like you've never seen before. So she literally was like,

cleaning lady and they're every day wiping down everything Windex in all the windows putting my things back in my room and I was like honestly like this is great I love living with her Well, that's all for Doing this this is so much fun. You know, yeah, it's very fun. We are the best. It was a pleasure It was so fun. I was scared. I

I was scared. I was scared because I was like, oh my gosh, what if I don't know the right things to say or like can't hold the conversation? No, we're yappers. Yeah. You guys are great. Thank you. You guys are honestly great podcasters. Thank you. Stop it. Come be co-hosts. Oh my god. I think before the podcast ends, Elias and I had a little chat and we did want to say a couple words to you. Oh gosh. I think like I'll start. Like for me,

I was actually going to have to drop out because, like, there was no housing for me and I couldn't afford it. And so, like, you have no idea, like, how much it meant to me to, like, win it. Like, when I tell you, like, it changed, like, everything for me. And so, like, I just wanted to, like, thank you because, like, it meant so much to me. You're going to make me cry. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Well, stop laughing.

No, honestly, you guys don't know how much like you mean to me. And this was the first year that we're doing this. And you guys are going to be such an inspiration for like the other students that get to have the scholarship in the future. And I don't know. Thank you guys. You guys have been so sweet and kind to me and just like honestly the best. So thank you guys so much. And I hope you guys know how important this is. Alex has just been the most like amazing person throughout this. And like, no.

Nobody's telling us to say this. Like, at all. No, yes. I'm forcing them to say this right now. She actually, like, forced us to wear the same outfit. She goes, wear black jeans and a white top. No. We were like, yeah, we were made to do this, guys. No, you've just been so sweet and so amazing throughout this process. I don't think people really understand, like,

how much you do behind the scenes and like what a girl boss you are like it's so fun to see everything you like accomplish online and then you come and you tell us like the behind the scenes and the tidbits and it's just like it's truly incredible to see everything from like this point of view everyone's playing chuggers she's playing chess like she's like on it and i literally talked about it as soon as after the first meeting was over i was like there's no way she's doing it at the

At that age. At that age. No, it's insane. Guys, thank you. And that's another thing. I think Alex, like at her age to be doing what she's doing is amazing. And also to be using your platform for something like this. Like I just it's it's never been done before. I've never been seen, but it is like really amazing. And I think I hope you understand that the impact and like what a difference you're making by using your platform for something like this.

by like making the time and every time we hang out or we talk, like you're always present. You're always in the moment. It's like always genuine. And it's really like inspiring

incredible. I think we definitely made the right person famous, guys. Don't worry. This is the sweetest thing anyone's ever said to me in my entire life. I'm going to replay this on repeat. Guys, no. It's literally like... I just can't explain it, but I think everything you've accomplished, it's definitely not luck. Like, seeing all the work you put, all the

the like like a thought process like everything it's it's very inspirational and I'm so happy we get to be a part of it and like thank you guys hear everything and because we had no idea like the scholarship was gonna like be as involved as it is like I thought it was gonna be a scholarship and like you know like it was like it was amazing but I thought that that was it and so once like we got the call and we're kind of like she wants to have lunch I was like there's no way a

well thank you guys for like actually wanting to hang out with me as well and you guys are so like I'm so impressed every time we meet up like

you guys ask me what's going on in my life and I'll ask you and they just keep asking me questions and like keep going for it and I was like it's so amazing that you guys are like actually interested in what I have to say and you can tell that you guys both like want to learn and you guys are both so smart and driven and that's what I say every time after we hang out I'm actually so inspired by you guys like you guys are just so driven and motivated and such good kind people and it really just like it

it shows like it is, I don't know. Everyone's going to be able to see it from this as well. Like you guys are so amazing and you guys are both going to be so successful and I'm happy more, you know, now we're like, we're friends now, you know? So it's so amazing. I'm happy we get to do this. That's the best part out of all of it. Like I didn't come into this thinking that like I was going to kind of have like a community and like,

like me and lizzie like we came close and like we came close and like it's it's been like it's been great well that's like what i really wanted out of this and then you know hopefully the community keeps growing and we get keep getting to meet amazing people but i also was like they may not want to meet me or not want to talk to me or like you know what i mean like or just like not really want to like be as personable as you guys are and i don't know this has just been so amazing and obviously this is my first time doing this as well so like thank you guys for being such a

like, inspiration for others and just...

I'm wishing you the best in life and as if I'm not going to see you guys so soon goodbye but really I'm here to support you with everything in life and I'm happy that we all met you guys are the best thank you stop this is so emotional alright thanks guys for coming on Hot Mess thank you I'll let you go I'll stop holding you hostage now and stop forcing them to say nice things about me

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Now that we're back and have a little alone time, first of all, I just I knew you guys were going to love them. They are absolutely the best. Leslie and Elias, thank you for coming on. And now we're going to sit down and we're going to do a little what would Alex do? I don't think we did it last week. And you guys have a lot of questions that you keep writing in. I love what would Alex do?

Um, this is like probably my favorite part of the podcast. So let's go through some what would alex do questions? Hey alex, i'm going on a beach vacation with my boyfriend and his family this summer I want to be excited but i'm stressed about having to be Makeup free with my natural hair around them because they've only ever seen me super done up I'm, not a girl who likes the natural makeup look on myself or just the natural look in general How can I feel better about this? Okay, I

feel you on this and that's something that I mean it sounds like so stupid but it actually can be very scary especially when I was struggling with my acne anytime I would go on like any type of vacation or any type of sleepover with like a boyfriend and you're around his family and you're waking up in the morning and just going down for breakfast and you're like oh my god like this is so scary them seeing me not super done up like maybe there's

pimples on my skin maybe there's acne scars maybe I have you know like a rash going on like whatever it is that you're insecure about it's different for everyone but it actually can be scary and I've had this same exact thought as you when I've had boyfriends in the past and you're going to be around their family and you're nervous about the waking up in the morning and you don't want to like come down for breakfast with like fake eyelashes self-tanner on and like your hair all done up but at the same time you're like oh I also don't want them to think I'm a troll and I

I'm here to tell you that it's okay to embrace what you look like without the makeup, without the hair done, because it's normal. Everyone has dealt with

Acne something that they're insecure about in their life and it's nothing to be ashamed of like you don't need to go down for breakfast With full glam on full beat like that. They probably honestly would judge you more than your natural hair Whatever you're insecure about about your natural hair. It's it's beautiful I'm telling you like they are not going to judge you based off looks and if they are those aren't people that you want to be around but

I know it's probably even more so you're worried about like yourself and you just being anxious in your head the whole time rather than like what the family or him is necessarily going to think of you but you really need to like look yourself in the mirror and I and

I know this sounds stupid and I do this too when I'm feeling insecure because you just get so in your head, so deep in thought about like, oh my God, this is terrible. I look disgusting. You literally need to look at yourself in the mirror and be like, I'm beautiful. I love the way I look right now. This is my natural look and I'm embracing it.

Like there is nothing to be ashamed of or hide. And I want you to know that you're not alone for feeling that way because I've 100% felt that way before. But you also have to understand that like they're people too. They understand that they're not waking up in the morning. They have eye bags. They have circles under their eyes. They're not looking great. They probably got wrinkles, hair over here. Like everyone, we're all human. There's nothing to be ashamed of. And I don't think they're going to not like you.

because your hair isn't done in a certain way. I think it's really important that you enjoy your time and have fun on vacation and enjoy the summer. Summer is about like, I feel like being natural and not, you know, overdoing it with everything. So it's like, let

let it be summer let you be your natural self and be confident in it and I think that shows through as well like if you carry yourself with confidence that's going to show through and if you come here and you're all like clams up in the corner and you're all nervous and you're hiding and you keep touching your hair and like moving it out of your face because that's what I do especially with like acne I would talk and I literally would cover my face when I talk I was like I

hi, how are you? Like, oh my God, it's so nice to see you. Like, yeah, just good morning. Like, I'm so excited for breakfast right now. And I would literally try and cover my entire face. And that looks more stupid than I'm telling you what you just look like naturally. So let it be and be confident in yourself and you will be fine. And you're perfect.

and I love you. Hi, Alex. There's this guy I matched with on Hinge that goes to my school. I've seen him around, but we've never talked in person. We exchanged a few Hinge messages before following each other on Instagram, and since then, he's liked some of my stories, but never asked me out. How do I get him to take me on a date? How do you get him to take you on a date? This may be a little harsh, a little blunt, but this is what Alex would do.

I'm not someone that is gonna like chase down a guy if they're not like going after me Or pursuing me like I mean there's a way to like show interest and like oh Maybe you like a message back from him or you like a story or you engage with him But like i'm not gonna be like hey Like want to do something like want to go out on a date even though I think there's a way where it's like Oh, you're being confident but there's also another aspect where it's like

well, they should want to be asking you out. Like they should be dying, begging on their knees to take you on a date. And if they're not, then that's not someone that like I would want to pursue. I never feel like I take it personally where I'm like, oh God, like I'm horrible. They don't like me. I'm just like, I don't want to put time and effort into someone that like doesn't want to put time and effort into me first. So I feel like if it's the vibe of like,

If you're playing, like, very hard to get right now and, like, haven't given him a flirty message or a hint or a cue at all, maybe throw some of them in there. Throw a like, whatever. Maybe you could propose, like, oh, yeah, like...

see you around like we should do something but if he's not if you say like we should do something and he's not at your front doorstep the next morning like here we go here's a plan here we can do this we can do that he is not the one you gotta move on like that's not happening if you say that to him and he tries to make any type of excuse no

We don't need that in our life. Like, that, he's just playing around, playing the field, and we don't need that. Like, he's probably a weird hinge creeper and messaging all these girls, and we don't like that. Alex would not put up with that. Ooh.

This is a good one. Okay. Hi, Alex. I really, really like this guy, Jack. We've been on four dates and I feel like he's absolutely perfect for me. I know I get attached way too quickly. So to keep myself distracted, I've been going on dates with other guys until Jack asked me to be exclusive. Last weekend, Jack saw me out to dinner with someone else. And ever since then, he's really pulled back. We were supposed to go out this weekend, but I haven't heard from him about confirming what would Alex do? Hmm.

Okay. What would Alex do? First of all, I think if you're not exclusive, you have every right to like continue to go on dates and see what else is out there. But it seems like sometimes that's the best way to go is like you don't really know or you don't want to get too caught up and you go on other dates, but like you keep coming back to this guy. Like for example, when I first started hanging out with Braxton, there was like a period where

Like in the beginning, Brax and I had gone on a few dates or seen each other, but I had also like been texting other guys or seeing other guys. And there was literally one night where I was out with this one guy and I...

I thought that I would like really like this guy. I was like, oh, this will be great or whatever. And we were having drinks, we're at a bar and I was like, I want to see Braxton. And I literally left, went to this other club that Braxton was at and went there with my friends and him. And I feel like that's how I just know, like sometimes you just, you need to see other people to really know what you really want. And it seems like he's probably taken back

in a good way because that means that if he's taken back by seeing you out with someone else, I think that means that he has an interest in you. But I think this is a perfect time for you guys then to have a conversation. I think maybe reaching out to him, trying to confirm your plans and being like, hey, I really want to talk. And I think when you're in person with him saying exactly what you said, like sometimes I feel like being open is the way to go and not in a creepy way, not like I like you so much and

I don't want to go out with anyone else ever. And I'm so sorry. And like, don't like apologize for yourself, but be like, listen, I know you saw me out on a date with someone else. And I really wanted to talk about this with you because I feel like nothing feels as good as when it's with you. And I honestly couldn't get a vibe from you about like how you really felt about me. Like I just didn't really know where we stood. So I guess I like wasn't playing it that seriously in my mind. But like the second that you saw me out with someone else, like,

That gave me a weird feeling and I really do have a strong interest in you and I think that this could go somewhere and see what he says. Like I think that's totally a fun and not creepy at all as I think if he saw you out with someone else and he was just trying to like use you or sleep with you or something, he probably wouldn't care because he's probably like, oh, whatever. Like she'll stay hanging out with me. But if he's getting a little butthurt, then I think he likes you. So...

I think that's a good thing. And I think you just need to talk to him and tell him and make it clear that like maybe this is the time where you need to set boundaries. Like sometimes things like this need to happen a little bit for you guys to be like, oh, okay. Like let's set some boundaries here because people's feelings are getting hurt because we're getting to that level. I love you so much and I really need to know what Alex would do in this situation. I found a secret photo app on my boyfriend's phone.

I can't even read the rest of this. I'm already getting annoyed for you. That has separate photo albums for every one of his ex-girlfriends. The albums are full of pictures he and his exes took together as a couple. There are even nudes and photos of them where it looks like they literally just canoodled. I'm so upset I found this, but I don't know if I should be mad. Do I bring it up or just try and forget about it?

No, we don't try and forget about it. That's not normal. That's shady and weird. Like, okay, there's a difference of having photos on your camera roll with an ex. Like, have I gone through my camera roll since the beginning of time? Like, I think my camera starts in like early high school and deleted every photo of another guy ever like that I've dated. Yeah.

No, but do I have them in a secret hidden app locked away in a vault with like nude photos of them? No, that's weird and that's creepy and that is not okay. Like why do you have that? Like why is that even an option?

what would Alex do? Okay. First of all, what I would do is I would definitely call him out on it. I don't know if that's like the right thing to do or not, but I've got, there's no way that I would see that and that that would not come out of my mouth to him. So I would definitely be like, what's this app? What's going on here? Let him talk, let him explain. Um, but like, there's just, and that's something for me that it's like,

what are you doing? And why are we dating? And why do you have this? And, like, that would just really piss me off to the point where I probably would end it with this person. Like, having a secret photo vault album labeled for all of these girls and then also to have nudes in there and, like, all these weird creepy photos is weird. Like, that's weird and disgusting and you are too good for that. Like, can you imagine doing that? No. And, like,

Just like, why do you have that? Not for not good things. You probably don't have that for good things. So I would call him out on it and then probably dump him. Well, thank you guys for listening to another episode of Hot Mess with Alex Earl. Next weekend, we are getting a little crazy because we're going to the Jersey Shore for Memorial Day weekend. So we will be having an interesting weekend then. And it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm so excited. I haven't been back to Jersey since...

Christmas and I don't even know the last time I've been out in Jersey it's Ashton's first time going out in Jersey that she's going to be 21 so next week's going to be a really really fun episode don't forget to subscribe to this podcast wherever you're listening to this too it really helps me so much also merch just dropped um so if you're listening to this currently when this episode just came out the merch should still be available for you to get online and the link in bio on hot mess instagram tiktok also ashton

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