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Trump Voters TURN AGAINST HIM over LATEST DECISION

2024/11/18
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Ben Meiselas: 本期节目讨论了特朗普支持者对埃隆·马斯克作为特朗普的非官方‘副总统’的强烈不满。马斯克的举动,包括会见外国领导人、创建虚假政府机构‘Doge’,以及潜在的利益冲突,引发了广泛批评。民调显示,特朗普支持者对马斯克在政府中的角色普遍持负面看法,许多人表示后悔投票给特朗普。马斯克的所作所为被认为是‘自作自受’的时刻,并且可能导致经济衰退。 Reddit用户也表达了对马斯克和特朗普的强烈不满,认为他们的行为损害了中产阶级利益,并批评了马斯克要求‘Doge’机构员工每周工作80小时的过分要求。州长沃尔兹将马斯克称为特朗普的实际竞选伙伴,并对其行为表示批评。经济学家预测,特朗普政府的政策可能会导致经济衰退,这与马斯克之前的警告相符。 特朗普支持者: 许多特朗普支持者表达了对埃隆·马斯克担任特朗普‘副总统’的不满。他们认为马斯克的参与是未经他们授权的,并且马斯克的所作所为损害了他们的利益,特别是可能削减社会保障等项目。他们对马斯克与特朗普的关系以及马斯克的个人利益与政府事务之间的潜在冲突表示担忧。部分支持者表示后悔投票给特朗普。 Reddit用户: Reddit上的评论反映了对马斯克和特朗普的强烈批评。用户们认为马斯克和特朗普是自私自利的亿万富翁,他们的行为损害了中产阶级的利益,并导致了经济上的不确定性。他们批评马斯克在‘Doge’机构中设立的苛刻工作条件,并认为马斯克和特朗普的行为是‘自作自受’。 州长沃尔兹: 州长沃尔兹公开批评了马斯克的行为,并将其称为特朗普的实际竞选伙伴,这突显了马斯克在特朗普政府中的重要性和影响力。 经济学家: 经济学家们预测,特朗普政府的政策,特别是那些与马斯克的‘Doge’机构相关的政策,可能会导致经济衰退。这与马斯克之前对特朗普当选后可能出现的经济困难的警告相符。

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Why are Trump voters upset with Elon Musk's role in Trump's administration?

Trump voters are upset because Elon Musk is acting as a co-president without being elected, making decisions that affect national policies and social safety nets.

What specific actions by Elon Musk have caused concern among Trump voters?

Musk is meeting with foreign leaders, creating a fake government agency called Doge, and proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare, which are crucial for many Americans.

How does Elon Musk's involvement in Trump's campaign impact his influence in the administration?

Musk's significant financial support and control over voter outreach tools have given him substantial influence, leading to his role as a de facto co-president.

What is the 'Department of Government Efficiency' (DOGE) and why is it controversial?

DOGE is a fake government agency created by Trump, led by Musk, and based on the meme coin Doge. It aims to cut government spending, including vital social services, raising concerns about conflicts of interest and transparency.

How do Trump voters perceive Elon Musk's relationship with Trump?

In focus groups, none of the 14 swing state voters viewed Musk's relationship with Trump positively, with some calling it a bad thing and others unsure how to respond.

What are the potential economic consequences of Elon Musk's proposed government spending cuts?

Economists predict a high likelihood of recession due to the proposed cuts, which could lead to significant economic hardship for many Americans.

How does Elon Musk's role as a co-president affect his business interests?

Musk's involvement in government decisions could boost his business interests, creating a loop where his political influence increases his wealth and vice versa.

What is the public's reaction to Elon Musk's behavior as a co-president?

Public reactions on Reddit highlight concerns about Musk's narcissism and the potential negative impact on the middle class and social services.

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Trump voters express dissatisfaction with Elon Musk's role as a co-president, questioning his influence and potential conflicts of interest.
  • Elon Musk is acting as a co-president with Donald Trump, causing backlash among Trump voters.
  • Musk's involvement in government affairs and potential conflicts of interest are highlighted.
  • Focus groups reveal that none of the voters view Musk's relationship with Trump as positive.

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Have you seen these AI memes of Elon Musk? Or Elon Musk has Melania, or this one, Donald Trump and Elon Musk, or this one. Actually, that last one isn't AI. I'm sorry for showing you those disturbing images, by the way, but there's a serious story I want to talk about here. As even Trump voters are now pissed in the ultimate leopards are eating my face moment.

that Elon Musk is acting as a co-president with Donald Trump.

Trump voters are out there saying, we didn't vote for Elon Musk to be the co-president. And now he's walking around and he's in the meetings with Zelensky. He's meeting with Iran. He's creating fake government agencies called Doge, where he says he's going to get rid of two or three trillion dollars in government spending. A lot of that goes to Social Security, Medicare and social service nets that people rely on to access.

actually live. And people are saying, can we get a mulligan here? We didn't really mean to vote for Donald Trump. We don't really want this.

This is what she voted for, and it was clear that Elon Musk was going to basically run the show and serve as a co-president, intermingling potentially his business interests with government affairs. And what I believe, in my opinion, is all my opinion, to be the ultimate conflict of interest here. So here's the article from Mediaite.

Trump voters and focus groups slam Elon Musk's growing influence. I didn't vote for him. Voters in a focus group who have supported President-elect Donald Trump universally said the incoming president's close relationship with Musk is not a good thing.

You think? Axios teamed up with Engageus Sego for a focus group of 14 swing state voters who all voted for Trump in 2016, some of whom swung back his way for the 2024 election. The report published on Friday revealed none of the voters, zero for 14, were willing to call Musk's relationship to Donald Trump a positive thing. Musk endorsed Trump and was a major supporter of his campaign. Pause there.

The biggest supporter, hundreds of millions of dollars went to a PAC that supported Donald Trump. Elon Musk was pretty much in charge of running all of the voter outreach. Elon Musk was giving raffles or he said job opportunities, a million dollars a day for people who would sign up basically to vote for Donald Trump, to register to vote for Donald Trump.

Oh, but by the way, I know Republicans really wanted to stop Democrats from helping give people water who have to wait on crazy long lines so that they can vote because a lot of red states are voter-suppressed states, but I digress. Trump announced that Musk will lead what he's calling the Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE, which is meant to look at cutting back on government waste. Pause there for a second.

So Donald Trump by fiat, like a dictator, is creating a fake government agency that never existed before called Doge. It is based on the meme coin, the scammy meme coin with the same scammy meme coin logo that

I think it's believed that Elon Musk had or has or once had or has an interest in Doge. So there's already, in my opinion, a conflict of interest attendant to the relationship right there. Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk are leading this thing. And when you go on Twitter, which is now X, it has a gray checkmark signifying it is an official government account.

even though it's not an official government account, but they are masquerading like it is to, what, rule over the people? To cut important safety social nets that lots of Americans actually rely on?

It goes on to say in this article, of the 14 swing state voters polled through two online panels, 12 of them were familiar with Musk being an advisor to Trump. Five called it a bad thing, while seven did not know how to respond, but none would describe this relationship as good. All 14 voters supported Trump in 2016 and then swung to Joe Biden in 2020. In 2024, five swung back to Trump, another five back

Harris and another four voted for a third party. I think it'll favor his Tesla company and he'll get the majority of the breaks. And just by throwing a couple of hundred million dollars on Trump's campaign, they're going to look the other way, says George L. out of Phoenix, Arizona. Pierre D. out of Las Vegas, Nevada said, Musk's very good at business, but not someone who

earned a single vote. He's very good, obviously, at business, but I didn't elect him. I didn't vote for him, the voters said, questioning what Musk's agenda will be. Quote, there's nothing in my opinion in Elon Musk's history that shows that he's got the best interest of the country or its citizens in mind. According to Axios, the five who called the Musk-Trump relationship bad are a mix of 2024 Trump voters, Harris voters, and third-party voters.

The group also gave their opinions on another controversial advisor to Trump, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the once independent presidential candidate who's been tapped by Trump to serve as his Health and Human Services Secretary, stirring up backlash due to Kennedy's longtime criticism of various vaccines. How about the fact that he also said that he wants to do a moratorium on studying infectious diseases?

Only one out of the 14 voters described Kennedy's association with Trump as a good thing. Well, okay, you 14 Trump voters, what were you doing? Where were you? Because during the campaign, if you watch Trump's speeches, Trump would say, Robert F. Kennedy, I'm

I'm gonna make him in charge of health. I'm gonna make him in charge of women. Women, you're gonna be forced to be protected by Robert Kennedy. And then Donald Trump said, Elon's gonna run things. Elon's gonna run things. So much so that Governor Walz made the comment that Elon Musk is Donald Trump's actual running mate, not J.D. Vance. And Governor Walz referred to Elon Musk as a dipshit for his behavior. Remember when Governor Walz said this? Here, play the clip.

And that's not a joke. But look, I'm not going to waste all the time I'm in. I'm going to talk about his running mate. His running mate, Elon Musk. Seriously. Seriously.

Where is Senator Vance after he got asked the simplest question in the world at the debate, did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election? And after two weeks, he finally said, no, he didn't. That's where he's been spending his time. But that's it. So look, Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dipshit on these things. You know it.

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but basically the main ambassador for the United States, although we did not elect him to do that. He's on the phone with Zelensky, and it should be noted that he previously had said some pretty bad things about Zelensky before he was posting all those right-wing kind of anti-Zelensky memes. Musk is around Donald Trump like 24-7 now. He was with Donald Trump when Trump spoke to the House Republicans. He got a standing ovation right there. And

You know, one of the messages also that's being sent, in my opinion, is that because Elon Musk is spending hundreds of millions of dollars, potentially billions of dollars now on election, which, by the way, was made possible thanks to the Citizens United decision, which destroyed bipartisan campaign finance reform by saying that corporations are people and have a First Amendment right to contribute unlimited funds in campaigns themselves.

you know, without any types of safeguards or checks or balances. That decision was what, 12, 15 years ago. The message is sent to all of these kind of magas out there that, you know, if you want Musk to support your campaign, just go along with it. You got to give him everything, you know, and by the way, when Musk then wins these elections, it's a loop, if you will, because then,

The value of his stocks go up and he makes more money by getting the people he wants to be put in place elected. And by being on phone calls with foreign leaders, the message is clear that you got to do deals with him or else.

Here's an article that came out of the New Republic, which was also reported by NBC. They claim that Elon Musk is pissing off everyone on Trump's team because he's behaving like the co-president. He's taking credit for Trump's win. He's bragging how it was his pack and X, which was Twitter, that allowed Trump to win and that Trump should be indebted to him.

It should also be noted, of course, that Elon Musk had previously said that there will be hardship and turmoil that we will face if Trump wins when they start slashing and taking away all of the slashing $2 trillion from the budget. And now we're seeing economists saying,

Some are predicting even a better chance of recession than this, but at least a 75% chance of a recession now. But this is what Elon Musk warned about. He said, I'm going to inflict hardship on you. You're going to have hardship. You're going to face a ton of hardship. Now,

Here are just some reactions on Reddit to all of this right now. They're saying, oh, but these voters all did vote for Elon Musk. They all knew. This game of Fox didn't tell me doesn't make it any better. You went out of your way not to do your homework. Your vote, your doge, your face, your leopard. Don't worry if anyone can save the low and middle class. It's two narcissistic billionaires. It's not like Donald Trump literally lives in a penthouse with golden toilet bowls. That's a

Man of the people right there. Their goal is to abolish the middle class and create worker drones that can be ruthlessly abused just like they had in their boyhood in South Africa, this one individual says. Other people are saying, that's what I don't understand when people say that electing the former guy is a repudiation of the elites.

This is a billionaire who lives in a penthouse decked with golden toilets. Like, what are you talking about? It's in large part due to Donald representing a shaking up of the system, which he has done and will do to even more disastrous effect. He's constantly attacking our institutions, government, health care, the border, and attacking everything. So the Democratic Party has to defend institutions, and it's a strategy that leads to...

many to actually vote for him and against their own interests. You see the Doge account right there. And also Elon Musk posted that he's going to, he's only looking to have people who work 80 hours, 80 hours a week for this Doge, for this made up government agency. They have to apply through X. They have to apply through Twitter. They have to have verified accounts if they want access to these government jobs.

And that's where they're being told to apply to for a made up government job. That's something that doesn't exist. So, again, this is a leopard's eating face moment. But Trump voters are regretting that Elon Musk is serving as a co-president, an unelected co-president who has his own interest at heart. But that's what you get. That's what you voted for. We're going to do our best here at the Midas Touch Network to call attention to all of this stuff. That's all we can do.

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