They are facing the consequences of their actions, realizing the impact of supporting policies that harm marginalized communities and their own families.
The argument fails to recognize that Trump's policies strip away rights and freedoms, unlike Biden's administration which upholds them.
Homan's history with ICE and his support for family separation and mass deportation indicate a hardline approach to immigration enforcement.
Their silence is seen as a lack of leadership during a critical time when clear messaging and action are needed to address the challenges ahead.
It highlights the pattern of targeting specific groups, with Trump explicitly stating who will be affected, unlike historical examples where people didn't speak out until it was too late.
It shows a level of disrespect and dominance by Putin over Trump, indicating a lack of respect for American leadership on the global stage.
Democrats need to be constantly engaged in advocating for their values and policies, not just during election seasons, to build a lasting coalition and maintain relevance.
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during World War II, won a Purple Heart. You see the list of his missions right there. It's why we have our mission to protect, preserve, and defend our democracy here. And it's why our work, your work, is needed more than ever right now. So let's get into it. A lot of people right now are Googling, can I take my vote back?
Project 2025, are mass deportations really going to happen? Things to buy before tariffs, as we told you. Elon Musk was saying, we the people will be suffering hardship, while they, the billionaires and oligarchs, have already doubled and tripled their wealth, especially all of those private prisons like Jio and others who are making tons of
of money right now at the speculation of mass deportations. Look, we're on the front lines here, not just of the resistance, but on truly fighting back and moving forward. I want to share with you this video has gone viral. Brett, you did a video about it early in the day. I could probably share with everybody, I would say thousands of videos that I'm now seeing all over like this, but I think this one is fairly symbolic
of the types of videos we're seeing where individuals who voted basically for Trump and against their family members are now in the find out stage. Here, let's play this video. - I'm not crying happy tears. I'm not gonna be apologetic for being excited because if it was the other way around, all of the Kamala supporters would celebrate.
I want to say that first. I'm very relieved because I voted what I believe in and I felt heavy on my heart that it's the right thing. So knowing that it was the decision the American people made, I'm relieved and I'm very happy. Very, very happy, okay? It's the very first day of finding out the election results. All of us are happy. I'm very happy. But I'm not going to continue to post about it. But I'm also not going to be sorry about it. And I always talked about how
My family, sorry. I don't want to make this more than once. I always talked about how my family had different beliefs, my grandma and my mom and my sister, and how we always got along. And I wore my grandma's sweater to go low and I, I'm so sorry. I'm trying not to cry, okay? But my heart's broken. - Try not to cry. - Yeah, try it. My grandma just sent me a very sad text. It broke my heart. And my mom has yet to text me back today.
My point of making this video is to say that I am very happy and I expressed how happy I was. And I'm not going to be sorry for that. I'm completely heartbroken that my family is taking it how they are. I never did this to them when Biden won. Never. I am done with political posts. From here on out, it's back to normal. If you don't like me because of who I voted for and you have to unfollow, go ahead. My own family.
unsubscribed from my life. So you can too, I promise. It doesn't get worse than that. It does get worse than that for we the people and specifically for marginalized communities. And if you want to talk about privilege, you hear at the end where she goes, okay,
Back to normal now. Well, it's not going to be back to normal for the Latinos whose job sites are about to be raided when mass deportation exercises take place. And nor is it going to be back to normal for literally tens of millions of Americans who the Trump administration is going to target.
And Ben, whereas President Biden tried to uplift Brett Jordy. Well, here is the you know, the major the fundamental difference and the fatal flaw to her entire argument there. It's, you know, she works in there. You know, I never did this to my family when Biden won.
When you have an election and you have two different sides of an election and one side results in stripping away the rights of certain people and the other does not, these are not two equal things. And I think that is one of the big things. And one of the things that upsets me so much about this election is that if vice president Kamala Harris won this election, there's nobody in this country who should be worried that they are under attack. There
There's nobody in this country who should be worried about their personal freedoms, about their future, about where they stand in this country. But with Donald Trump, there are a whole bunch of people who now have to be extremely worried and have the right to be worried and should be worried about what is going to happen in the future. And so when you see those tears, imagine how the folks on the receiving end of Donald Trump's policies feel right now in the wake of this election with the gravity of what we see and we're already starting to see.
By the way, you know, as Trump assembles his cabinet and the people who are going to surround him, who are going to be running the show here, we are seeing a reason why everybody's fears were completely warranted as we as each day passes here. So it's just such a false dichotomy that she is presenting right there. Jordi, how are you doing? What's your take?
Yeah, I mean, like you look at that and it's just, it's absurd, right? It's just totally shameless what that person's saying up there on screen. It's like, you know, check your privilege at the door. I'm just going to go back to posting my regular stuff. Sorry if you're mad about who I voted for. It's like, hey, to Ben's point exactly, there are marginalized communities out there right now that can't go to, you know, day as usual, who now have to live with the consequences of the person that's going to be in charge. Utterly, utterly despicable and just a total lack of self-awareness. I'm sorry.
Speaking about a lack of self-awareness, what's the term that the youngsters use these days? Delulue, like delusional. There are still people out there, though, who are within the communities that are being targeted. Why does that make me just sound extra? I love when you connect with the youngsters. Delulue.
You didn't sound a day over 80 there. You know how the youngsters are saying this new phrase they're saying. They say, the kids say, you know, someone else's door.
Well, it means delusional. And I mean, look, when I still see the Latino voter, the definition, when I see the Latino voters for Trump still like I saw this interview today on CNN where this Latino voter for Trump, he's wearing all of his Trump gear and he's like, look.
Trump's not going to go after people who are family oriented. There's an exemption. If you're family oriented, then your abuela and abuelo and tia tia, they are all good because they're family oriented. Here, play this clip. If they let in hundreds of thousands of people who already have criminal records, if deporting them creates a mass deportation, I'm all for it. But what if rounded up in all of that
are people who work on a farm. They're doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do. Does that worry you? That wouldn't be fair. Of course, you know, they need to make sure that they don't throw away, they don't kick out, they don't deport people that are family-oriented. Their literal plan is to deport anybody who is here, number one, who doesn't have papers, number two, who may have some temporary legal status or some legal status.
But they don't view as citizens. And then three, they're going to denaturalize people who are already citizens but who became citizens by way of birth in the United States. And that's one of their procedures that they want to go through. Just take a look at what Charlie Kudlow,
Charlie Kirk posted moments ago. He says, Tom Holman, so let's be clear just to rewind briefly. So today, Donald Trump nominated, not nominated, appointed. I think Donald Trump's not going to do nomination processes and well, we'll talk about that in a bit as well. But he declared that Tom Holman is his border czar.
Tom Homan previously ran ICE. Tom Homan was the person who came up with the family separation policies. And over the past three and a half years, Tom Homan was the person who talked about bloody mass deportation exercises. And he's used words to the effect, if you
saw what we did back with the family separations in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, you're not even going to believe the right quote, the shit we're going to do if Trump gets back in power. So this is one of the first people Donald Trump picked Tom,
Homan. And already today, Tom Homan's talking about going into workplaces and rounding up people in their places of work. And let's take a look at what Charlie Kirk said. By the way, family people too, people who are here for 30 years. Yeah, let us be clear. There's no family man exemption to this policy, okay? There ain't no exemption. I'm not sure where that guy who's wearing, did you see he's wearing, for those who are listening, he's wearing a hat
that has Donald Trump's hair attached to the top of it. So he is like full on Trump fan boy, uh, saying that he's not concerned that his relatives are going to be deported because they're good family people and he's not going to deport good family people. Well, that's certainly not what the people who Trump, that's not what Trump says. That's not what the people who are surrounding Trump are saying. And I think one of the clearest, uh,
you know, instances or, or one of the clearest examples of how far Trump and his acolytes are willing to go now that they're going to have power is that infamous Stephen Miller post that we have seen recently, where he said he was going to quote,
turbocharge, turbocharge denaturalization in 2025. Turbocharge it. Denaturalization is the process of stripping away the citizenship from people who have acquired citizenship in this country. So even if you're like, oh, I'm legal, it's not going to affect me. I'm here legally. I
I'm naturalized. I'm good. No, you're not good. And Donald Trump on the campaign trail has already said time and time and time again that he is willing to go to groups that he doesn't like, to people he doesn't like, and strip away their citizenship. He has called those Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, who are there legally, he has called them
them illegal. This is what he has done throughout the country. People who are here legally, they want to do these bloody mass deportations, kick them out or throw them in these private prisons. Ben, what did Charlie Kirk have to say? Charlie Kirk says Tom Homan announces he will begin workplace immigration rates.
Let's just be clear what that means, though. That means exactly the questions that were asked to that Latino Trump voter, right? You're in the farm. You're in the factory. You're on a construction site.
You are contributing to the economy. You are working your ass off in jobs that Americans are not doing for far less money than Americans would do it at as well. Americans not do them at all. So you can support your family. Then ICE or the military or the National Guard rolls up on you at your work site while you're building things.
building infrastructure projects, bridges, while you're picking crops that we all rely on for both consumption here and for exporting. You're contributing to the economy working. Work, right? Look at it. Workplace, immigration, workplace. And we're ripping people out
throwing them into cages and then throwing them into countries that they may not even live in, right? I mean, one of the things that Donald Trump says he was going to throw the Haitians back to Venezuela, like to just totally different countries. Let's keep reading though what Charlie Kirk is saying. He goes, if you are illegal, get out of our country now. It will save us time and energy and also spare you the humiliation that
the days of gaming America's immigration system with impunity are over. Get out. It's also notable that he uses the word humiliation, you know, like as part of this, they're going to, um,
denigrate human beings, right? Treat human beings the way we saw photographs of American military in Abu Ghraib like Iraq. We're not just gonna deport you, the Trump's like, we're gonna humiliate you. And that's the message to that Latino Trump supporter. It's basically a message to you. So let's be very clear, okay?
um nobody on this podcast and nobody who who i know supports criminals or terrorists being here illegally number one undisputed fact no one's rooting for oh let's bring in those criminal let's bring in the cartels ah no they should be removed right away they're criminals they should be out
The full force of law, get them out. Get terrorists out, get cartels out, get criminals out. Undisputed fact number two, there's actually been less border crossings right now under Biden than under the Trump administration. You know when all of a sudden immigration basically fell to like nothing under Trump? The same time gas fell to nothing. You know when that was? During COVID.
When there was a mass pandemic, a mass casualty event where Donald Trump mishandled it. So tens of thousands of people were literally dying in ventilators every day because no one knew what the hell to do while they had Trump locked down. So actually the situation, it was better right now. And three, let me give you an undisputed fact. Let me give you the economic argument here because I know that no one wants to talk about this because it's been so tainted. But let's be clear.
Immigrants, migrants play a major part in our economy, whether you like that or not, okay? They contribute. When you do workplace raids, guess what? That means they are working at places and you're going to raid the work, remove the workers from what? The farms? How are the farmers gonna get by when they're relying on this labor? The factories, how are they gonna get by without the labor?
How is anyone going to get by? And what do you think that's going to do to the price of goods? First off, what is it going to cost you for this mass deportation event? Quite literally tens of billions of dollars every day. So bye-bye to your health care.
right, so that the government can spend its money sending the military to do workplace raids rather than help you get an education, help you get healthcare, lower your prescription drug prices, function like a government,
things like bring Wi-Fi, build infrastructure. No, government resources, conducting workplace raids, removing the labor, meaning that the price of goods is going to go up dramatically. Remember those $8 trillion deficit projections that we were telling you about Donald Trump?
That's what it was last time under Trump. Under the best case scenario, it was $8 trillion being added to the debt. Under, I think, the accurate scenarios, if you do this, I think it'll be like $25 to $30 trillion in debt. And you go, well, Ben, at the highest end, they said $12 to $15, not $8.
Really? You don't think Donald Trump's going to increase the debt like he did in every other business that he's ever done and run it up like crazy and these Republicans are going to do that? Let me show you another data point of Tom Homan. I want you to watch the smugness. This is truly an evil person.
So to that Latino voter right there wearing the Trump hair and the stupid Trump hat going, they're not coming after me. Charlie Kirk, who's one of Trump's inner circle, he's saying he's coming after. What do you need to happen? I mean, do you think that Latino voter for Trump is going to be deported, ripped apart from his family? You think he's going to be so brainwashed that he'll be going back there? But it didn't happen to me. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm good. You know, I'm good. Let me just show you this AOC clip right here. We played it in other videos. Here she is when she was questioning Tom Holman. He's one of the authors of Project 2025. And this was at a congressional hearing where Tom Holman, again, like his cagey way, he was like trying to avoid saying that he was for family separation, even though it was his policy. And then like he admits it in a smug way. Here, watch this.
This memo you're not the author but you signed the memo yes a zero a zero tolerance memo so you Provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on family for the United States to pursue family separation I gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives But it says here that you read you gave her numerous options, but the recommendation was option three family separation
What I'm saying, this is not the only paper where we've given the Secretary numerous options to secure the border and save lives. And so the recommendation of the many that you recommended, you recommended family separation. I recommended zero tolerance. Which includes family separation. The same as is with every U.S. citizen parent gets arrested when they're with a child.
Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their if I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in a car I'm gonna be separated when I was a police officer in New York and I rested a father for domestic violence I Separate that mr. Holman with all due respect Legal asylees are not charged with any crime when you're in the country legally is violation 8 United States Code 1325 seeking asylum is legal if you want to seek asylum and go through the port of entry do it the legal way and
The Attorney General of the United States has made that clear. Okay. Brett. Yeah, you know, we're at a situation right now and it's tough. And one of the things that makes it extremely tough is that all of us also have to endure all the consequences of this election, of whatever happens. Unfortunately, you know, there's part of me that thinks that
That it's the only way for some of these folks who voted for Trump to realize kind of what they've done. And I don't say that facetiously and I don't say that with glee by any means. But I think, you know, people have short memories.
They voted for Trump the first time in 2016 under similar circumstances, similar reasonings. What's the worst that could happen? This guy's not part of the establishment. He's a businessman. Look, he's silly. He's on TV. He's not going to come after me.
And then what happened? We had demonstrations in the street all the time. Donald Trump would always go to his worst instincts. People were harmed. And it all culminated with the COVID crisis, with the COVID pandemic that Trump completely ignored, mismanaged.
which is honestly me being kind by calling that mismanaged, leading to more than a million people dying. And those are the consequences of putting somebody so just willfully unprepared and unfit for the job and with all these dangerous ideas in the office. And unfortunately, it may take a little bit of pain for some of these people to realize, oh, crap, I
I messed up. Oh yeah, that's why I didn't like him. That's why I made sure to vote against him in 2020. But here we are again where people are, to use Ben's words, delulu. And they are thinking that somehow this time will be different. It's a new tone. It's a changed guy. I assure you, it's not a new tone. It's not a changed guy. Now the guardrails are off and he's going to continue to bring in
the most insane people to be around him at all times. And Tom Homan is an example of that. Seeing Stephen Miller was one of his first appointments, if you will, was an example of that. These are like the world's worst people who are openly saying that they want to do the world's worst things. We're being put in positions of power without guardrails with a Republican party who controls all the other levers of the government.
saying that they also want to do everything they can to please Donald Trump imaginable. What do you think is going to happen? I mean, it doesn't take a psychic. I'll tell you that. And then thinking back, I mean, just listening to that Latino man talking about why he decided to vote for Trump
And how he could just be so blind to the fact that they're not going to come for him, right? Like where else in history have we heard? First, they came for this group, but I didn't speak out. Then they came for this group, but I didn't speak out. It's very much on display in real time in that clip. Part of me genuinely actually feels bad that you could be so naive and tricked.
into believing that they're not going to target you. Where clear as day, you know, we've seen, you know, it's a community that is definitely under attack by this administration, no matter the status of the person at this point. Jordy, the only difference though is in that old, very, you know,
dark but famous expression of first they came for this group and i wasn't a part of this group so i didn't do anything then they came for that group and i wasn't a part of that group then they came for this group i wasn't a part and then they came for me in this example
Donald Trump and his inner circle have said, we are coming for you. We're coming for you. We're coming for you. And then their response is, no, they're not coming for me. And like, here's the videotape of them saying that they're actually coming for you. Yeah, but I'm family. I'm a family man. So they're not coming for you. He's saying you, other than literally saying your name, right?
He's literally describing you and you're wearing a stupid Trump hat with a fake Trump wig. What, what is going on in that mind of yours? And look, whether it's because of COVID, social media, people's inability to interact in society anymore, whether you want to call it like brain worms or fried mush brains, I don't, hello, like what, what,
what is going on in there because it literally feels so obvious. And yet you try to have these conversations with people. And it's like kind of speaking with like humans who are like, almost look like they're taken over and programmed with some like robotic AI. That's like, hello. Are you,
Could you please let me make, is anything working in there? And I'm not trying to be like rude or demeaning, but like when they say we're coming for your group, get out. You're going to be humiliated by us. We're coming for your family. And you're like, they're not coming for me.
You know, it's, it's, it's a odd, it's an odd. And by the way, it's not unique to that Latino male there. You know, you can go through various different, you know, groups and then say, but you realize that means they're taking your land. That means they're going to ban you. That means they're going to control your body. That means you're going to have student loans increasing. That means inflation is actually going to go up based on those policies. That means that like literally you,
You go through all these people and they're like, yeah, but not me. Not me. Anyway, there's a lot to talk about. I also want to talk about, though, when we get back from the break, I got to talk about where's the Democratic leadership?
right now. Seriously, the Midas Touch Network's not the pity party network. We're the get stuff done network. And don't get me wrong. I see some governors. I see Josh Shapiro. I see Pritzker. I see Gavin Newsom and some others. I see some signs of life, some signs of leadership. But what in the world are you doing right now? Step up.
you know, man up, person up, whatever up, get up and do something about it. What are you doing right now? What's the silence? It's pissing me off. We'll be right back from our first quick break. We got a lot to talk about.
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Let me make an observation, though, because when Donald Trump was found liable for sexual assault, indicted multiple times, criminally convicted on 34 separate felony counts, the MAGA Republicans not only stuck with him every step of the way, but had the most relentless propaganda campaign filled with lie after lie after lie. It didn't matter to them.
On the other hand, with President Biden, somebody who actually did a bunch of incredible things, someone who you don't have to propagandize for, you literally just have to tell the story.
Right. I mean, President Biden's leadership was able, competent, capable. I remember that Time magazine cover of the disaster President Biden inherited. We all knew he was going to inherit an absolute disaster. The stock market crashed. We were basically in a depression, a mass casualty event. The economy was crap. Trump added eight trillion dollars in debt.
I mean, literally every metric, every single one was terrible. Then Donald Trump refused to do a peaceful transition of power, led an insurrection, refused to coordinate and even tell President Biden what the deals were, what the resources were, refused utterly.
But there we were, and here we are. Just take a look at these stats of Joe Biden's economy, for example, with unemployment at all-time lows, jobs created $16 million, inflation now very normal when it was caused by post-COVID and COVID behavior as a result of Donald Trump's mishandling. When you add $8 trillion in debt,
when you don't do things like the CHIPS Act or the Infrastructure Act, and you don't shore up your supply lines, right? And you recklessly print money with no accountability as Donald Trump did, that causes inflation. And it's not like all of a sudden inflation starts.
The policies have to take time to kick in, right? Like we were still under the regime of Donald Trump's billionaire tax cuts that he couldn't pay for or refuse to pay for when Biden was in office. And Biden has to basically move this massive sinking ship in another direction. Did it ably? And look, the GDP, 3% growth, average pay, wages are up, manufacturing boom, stock market at
all-time highs, oil production at oil highs. America was energy independent. So I mean, for me, whereas the MAGAs were propagandizing the most awful human being and doing the most awful things every day, no matter what it was,
The fact that Democrats cannibalize themselves and continue at this moment to do the blame game. Every day there's a leak. It's this person's fault. It's that person's fault. It's your fault. It's this person's fault. But I propose this, but I said that versus you gotta show leadership during moments like this.
A lot of people wanted to write op-eds and they were doing touchdown dances when they got Biden to leave. A lot of people out there were trying to claim their brilliance, but nobody
But now is when leadership is needed, not the blame game. And look, we're going to use our platform to do everything we can do here. That's bring attention to issues. We've got a great team of lawyers who can also outline legal strategies, you know,
We can try to warn people as best as we can if there are going to be raids in specific areas. You know, we could continue to motivate this massive community to get out accurate information and to push back against encroaching fascism. And that's what we pledged to do. But also,
We have to have leadership within the party that is standing up and actually standing for and standing behind the record. Look, lots of people's lives are complicated. People are working lots of jobs and people have lots of issues in their lives.
You can't just expect that you can do infrastructure, you can do inflation reduction, you can do the CHIPS Act, you can do the PAC Act, you can do all of these things and people automatically understand and get it. I mean, when you look at some of this exit poll data and information, it's shocking in ways that if you go fully down that rabbit hole at how shocking it is, it's beneath depressing sometimes how people ultimately make snap decisions. But what's
clear is you have to be relentless in your messaging. But what was so obvious for Democrats is that your messaging met the moment because one of the issues that we saw here was the economy, the economy, the economy, right? That's what was over and over.
What President Biden was so brilliant about was recognizing the economy, the economy, the economy. That's why he did infrastructure. That's why he did inflation reduction. Right. That's why he did bottom up, middle out. That's why he was on the picket lines. So why is it then that people going back to a theme we said are voting against their interests? Because they're
At some point, one of the main lessons, and this isn't the blame game show, you have to be a team player and support the messaging. Look, President Biden would maybe not like to admit this, but in President Biden's age, he's not the same debater he once was.
You go back and look at President Biden's speeches from the 80s and the 90s and the 2000s. He was a great orator. He was one of the best debaters. But guess what? In his 80s, I hope in my 80s I could be half the debater that President Biden was. But his skill set wasn't that.
His skill set was using the age and using the wisdom in a way to build and cultivate and not destroy. So the one main lesson that I urge our party, but I urge just anybody who cares about our country, you have to help with the messaging. Not to lie, not to propagandize, but to literally give the facts because the facts were actually great.
not whine and complain about somebody's age or be ageist. - And Ben, let me add this if I can. You also have to know where to direct people's anger, right? Because people are naturally going to be
angry about certain things because things are never going to be perfect ever, ever, ever. Even in the best economy, the best ever, things aren't going to be perfect. But Chris Hayes said something on Blue Sky today. By the way, we're on Blue Sky now. If anybody else is on Blue Sky, give us a follow. Midas Touch is on there. I am on there at Be My Sellers. Jordy, you're on there, right? Ben, I think he still needed a counter. People are asking for you. There's a whole demand for Ben on Blue Sky. But Chris Hayes said the following. He wrote,
Here's one of my main takeaways. The point of governing is to make people's lives better, but the point of politics, especially campaigns, is to give people a story about who to blame for things sucking. It's a real mistake to confuse one for the other, as I have often done. And I totally see what Hayes is saying there, because what Trump was able to do effectively, I think, and what these reporters are able to do effectively, I think, is to make people's lives better.
were able to do effectively is they were able to play to people's grievances about issues that gone wrong. Quite frankly, issues that Donald Trump caused nearly all of these issues that happened. And some of them were global phenomenons like inflation that impacted every single country in the world. But Democrats had a great story to tell.
Out of every country in the world, you know who handled this crisis the best, quite literally the best, number one, number one in the world, USA, the United States of America and the Biden-Harris administration. But I think sometimes in this quest to defend the policies, defend the CHIPS Act, defend the Infrastructure Act, I think sometimes the message can get muddied because people get a little bit too nuanced in their language. And so on the one hand, you have Democrats saying,
Things could be getting better, but actually we've done a lot and look at these plans, but yeah, and while that may be technically correct,
When that's your message and the other side is just going lower taxes, build the wall, just easy phrases that people could latch on to. We're going to stick it to China. And like, who do you think is going to basically affect the median voter the most who is looking for that simple message to resonate with? Are they going to go to the nuanced message that's technically accurate or are they going to go to this, you know, very direct message?
kind of, you know, straight to the point message, even if it's total BS. And unfortunately we saw people gravitate towards that message. I think it's just a lesson going forward that, you know, that Democrats and everybody needs to take. But while president Biden was accomplishing all these things, I think we,
you know, we needed a whole lot of other folks instead of yelling about president Biden's age to be spiking the football in that way, every single day, going out there saying you want lower taxes. Guess what? We're giving you lower taxes. You want, you know, the wealthy to pay more. Guess what? President Biden is making the wealthy pay more. You wanted student loans. Guess what? We did it. You know, who's making your life worse. Put the blame on the right people. You know, who's making your life worse. You know, who wants to take away your student loans.
The Republicans, Donald Trump, they want to take it away from you and just be that simple with it every step of the way. Instead, you get this infighting, you get these muddy messages, and it just drives me crazy because then you look at these exit polls and you look at people like that individual we showed in the video earlier and the things they say, you're just like, I can't even wrap my head around. But fundamentally, I think there is, we've been in this cycle now for what? For
Oh, man, maybe a couple decades at this point of people really kind of raging against whatever is considered the establishment. And you could go back to Barack Obama, right? I mean, that was a change election, obviously. That was an election against the establishment. President Obama, he was the nominee. He won. He was an eight-year, two-term president. Donald Trump,
Very different figure, but he was viewed as anti-establishment. He came to power. I think with President Biden, I think folks actually wanted a return and a strengthening of our institutions after Donald Trump. And they realized that was a big mistake. We need to go back to these American values. We need to be protected. They go back to President Biden. Then four years go away and people are going, I want to change again. I want to change. And then they had the one candidate who was fighting Trump.
for horrific change, but change nonetheless to blow up the entire system that they perceived as going against them in certain ways, even though once again, best in the world managing a post-pandemic time. But they picked the candidate who said, you know what, screw these institutions. We want to blow it all up. We want to change. And I think there's a way though that
when the Democrats figure out how to recalibrate here and people who are pro-democracy want to recalibrate here, that you could position yourself as a candidate of change, as an exciting candidate, as somebody who speaks to people's fears, someone who speaks to people's grievances, but does it in a way that sticks to the values, sticks to...
protecting these communities, sticks to protecting the unions, the middle class, healthcare, and all these things. I mean, it's very possible. And also one of my other issues with kind of all these postmortems that people do on these elections is that
First off, there's not like one person in power who could be like, okay, and so it is. Now we're going to apply all these things that everyone says. Also, everybody's postmortems just miraculously, coincidentally, always align with their priors, always align. You know, if you're the person who thought that, you know, Gaza was going to decide this election, your reasoning for why Kamala lost was because she was too friendly to Israel. If you're on the opposite side, your reasoning is the opposite. If you're, if you,
You think one way you think she wasn't helpful enough to the middle class. If you are coming from another side, she was too much about unions in the middle class. It's like everyone somehow finds a way to have this confirmation bias of their own ideas by looking at the election. And so a lot of that simply is not helpful for me.
But what I want to look for right now is just where are these leaders? Are they going to step up? What the heck is going on with the silence? Like, I am just amazed that like we have, we haven't seen like a forceful speech from any real democratic leader. Uh, we saw president Biden speak at Arlington today. Um, I thought that was great. It was nice to see him and, and him to speak up for our values, but where is the next leader of the party? Where, where is he or she coming from? Uh,
he or she could speak out at any time right now. And we are waiting, the people are waiting and the people want a positive message to look forward. A message of hope. Yes. A message of joy. Yes. And a message of change and a message of how are we going to fix all of this? Like, where are they? Where are they?
I think that's a great point. Where are they? Why aren't they speaking up right now? You know, again, I am grateful for our platform here on the Midas Touch Network. I am glad that we're still a top three YouTube channel in the United States of America. I'm glad that we have this voice and I hope we could be a calming, reassuring, and productive voice. But
And there are other independent media hosts as well. But there's got to be leadership institutionally within the party of somebody who's stepping up and saying, here's the direction. Here's where we're going. Here's why we're going there. I haven't seen that right now. It's disappointing. And we'll talk about that and more because on the other hand, you've got Vladimir Putin
putting Donald Trump through humiliation rituals. I'll tease the next segment, although perhaps that's not the best way to phrase what I'm going to do in the next segment, because you've got Russia's state TV, which is basically directed by Vladimir Putin, posting nude photos of Melania, I think to basically alpha Donald Trump and show him who's your daddy, if you will. We'll talk about that and more, but let's take our last quick ad break of the show.
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We are ready to go. You know, it's interesting. Vivek Ramaswamy, before we started, posted the following, shut it down. And frankly, that's kind of the MAGA attitude about anything. Like, I don't fully know what he's even talking about here. If it's shut down the Department of Education, because that's one of the things they say, is it shut down the government because they want to not fund the government until Trump takes over, and to shut it down, they always want to just
shut down and tear down the government? Are they talking about just shut down the border? Which sounds very simple, but when you are involved in trade agreements,
Quite literally, hundreds of billions of dollars in commerce takes place across borders every single day. So if you just shut it down, well, then how are you going to get some of the goods that let's say are made in Tijuana into America? Or how are you going to get some of the American products into Mexico?
How's that trade just going to happen? And how are other goods from South America that go through trade routes in Mexico going to get in here? So it's a very simple solution. But make Ramaswamy, he's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. And Brett, to your point, he knows just he simply messes. Shut it down.
Shut it, burn it down. And that has a appeal to people. But shutting down the Department of Education, how many children and students is that going to devastate? Shutting it down, the government, people's social security, people's health care, the Affordable Care Act, shut it down. What is that going to mean? I mean, the reality is, is that there has to be, and this is where President Biden was smart, just couldn't message it the right, struggled to message it honestly because of his age, not because he was...
He was on target about what to do and how to do this. But, you know, ultimately, you need institutions in order to function. You know, I don't want America to be the Mar-a-Lago of chaos. And everybody's like, that's the Trump world. That's what America voted for. There is an importance of some institutions that function so that there could be orderly behavior of
government and governance. That is important. But at the same time, we have to recognize the types of people who want the chaos because in the ashes that they leave, they're going to be the ones kind of picking your pockets. By the way, we talked about Tom Holman.
And at the beginning of the show, I just want to read you one other quote. When Tom Homan was asked recently, why should children be forced to leave the country if they were born and raised in the United States and undergo the denaturalization process? And he says, because their parents entered illegally, had a child knowing he was in the country illegally. So he created the crisis.
So the American citizen now has to be denaturalized because they were born there. It is their fault.
That is the logic or illogic that they are using. Let's show that Biden clip today because then I want to pivot to what Putin is doing to Donald Trump and showing his dominance. President Biden has always stood up to Vladimir Putin and built NATO stronger than ever. Here's what he had to say in his last speech at Arlington Cemetery on Veterans Day. Let's play this clip. This is the last time I will stand here at Arlington as commander in chief. It's been the greatest honor of my life.
to lead you, to serve you, to care for you, to defend you, just as you defended us generation after generation after generation. Let's press pause, don't press pause, but let's mark this section of the show because it is my suspicion that in about six months or so, perhaps less, maybe three months, there's going to be a big movement
Can we bring that guy back? Where's Joe? Can we bring Joe back? We're not going to be able to do that. The stability, the no drama, all of that, that we had, as well as economic growth, America chose chaos. America chose hardship.
America chose, not all of America, but a significant portion of America voted against their interests. I mean, heck, you know, I was looking yesterday, Brett and Jordy and Midas Mighty. I was looking at the Teamsters social media account.
And they were talking about some temporary collective bargaining deal they had. I think it was with like Home Depot. It's a temporary negotiation, which is set to expire in early 2025. And they viewed that as like a win. And I was also looking at Sean O'Brien, who heads the Teamsters, his account.
Because, you know, he spoke at the RNC. He took that photo with Donald Trump where they were wearing their red ties, giving the thumbs up in Mar-a-Lago together. So I was looking. I was like, where is Sean O'Brien's congratulations to Trump? He was congratulating other people.
Where was his congratulations to Trump, who he helped out? And then I saw all these Teamsters posts about collective bargaining rights and the extensions of certain contracts with management, various locals that are picketing. And I'm thinking to myself,
Look, a lot of Teamsters stood up. There was a lot of the locals that endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, but a lot of those Teamsters, a lot of union members, I'm not suggesting that it was all union members, but if you're in unions, you know the people who I'm talking about, literally voted for Donald Trump against their unions. I mean, Donald Trump doesn't believe in the PRO Act. Donald Trump is against the very essence of what a union does, collectively bargained
Donald Trump's about to appoint people to the National Labor Relations Board, which is the main board that allows grievances against management under collectively bargained for contracts. The National Labor Relations Board is going to be pro-management, so when you have an issue,
you are not going to be able to get any relief and your strikes are going to be declared unlawful and you're not going to be able to picket. Your union is literally powerless in a Trump administration and your union people and you voted for Trump. I mean, it is a wild concept to me and that's just kind of one example where
Remember, Brent, we had that guy on who was the general counsel of one of the big labor unions two years in. He walked us through. He was like, Trump lied to the Teamsters in 2016. Then he put the most anti-worker group in the NLRB. And here's how he screwed us. Biden walked on the picket lines with us. He literally saved our pensions. Saved your pensions. But that wasn't good enough. Yeah.
Your pensions, your life, your family putting food on the table. Biden stood up for you. Trump's taking that food away. So we'll mark this episode where we start hearing the calls from the people when the leopard actually ate their face and they go, oh, how did that happen?
know and again just seeing you know you know one of the thing i see from all these mega influencers too is they like they post all of the data that existed when biden was in office and now like look what trump did but this isn't a record high look
Hamas is saying they're going to do this now. I'm like, it's the same thing that Hamas said they were going to be doing two months ago, three months ago, five months ago. So that's what they were saying back then. There's literally no difference. And now this person's doing that. And now we're energy independent. No, all of these things existed before. Trump didn't do any of it at all. But Brett, to your point, it's like, okay, well, let's see actually what happens when Trump does 2,000% tariff.
Let's see what happens when he does mass deportation. Let's see what happens when he does tax cuts for billionaires. Let's see what happens when he shuts down the Department of Education. Let's see what happens when he takes away your health care and shuts down Social Security. Then we can judge. But you know what's going to happen? And this is why Democrats wake the heck up because this happens every time.
that stuff starts to kick in year two, year three, right? Everybody gets pissed and they're like, oh, we got to vote them out. The next Obama or whoever comes in, right? And then what do the Republicans do? Look, it's your fault. You screwed us. And it's all of their freaking policies. And so what you have to do right now, and this is what's pissing me off about their silence, frankly, it's that you can't just show up for an election. You
You can't just show up 90 days before, hey, I'm a celebrity. Let me write some op-eds now or hey, now I'm going to write a song about it. That's not the way it works, right? You have to be A, B, C, always be campaigning. Not necessary for elections, but for the heart and soul of our freaking country. That's the mode that we're always on here at Midas Touch Network. A, B, C, always be campaigning for the election.
people. That's what you have to be doing here and not just be like, oh, I guess there's an election. No, because then the American people were like, where were you? I didn't see you before. Now you're just showing up, George Clooney. Oh, now you're just showing up, this celebrity. Now you're just showing up. Oh, where were you when I was asking for help?
Were you in your villas in freaking Lake Como or is that where you were? Or were you with us on the front lines? That's what needs to be done. Meanwhile, I tease this and so I have to talk about it and I'll throw it to you, Brett. Vladimir Putin has the Russian – there's really not much more to the story.
they're showing naked photos of Melania all over and then they're laughing at her and then they're mocking her and then they're saying, what does my body, my choice really mean in America after showing the nudes of Melania and then mocking Donald Trump and Melania. So anyway, I guess it was a long tease. And then Don Jr. showing these photos of Zelensky
and mocking Zelensky and basically threatening Zelensky and Ukrainian lives. You're 38 days from losing your allowance. And just think about that. That's how the Trump administration handles foreign policy. You're 38 days from losing your allowance, Brett. Yeah, well, we have the world's worst people in charge. We're going to be finding out more and more about other of the worst people who are going to be added to this administration. We are going to continue to report on everything.
The good, the bad, the ugly, the very ugly. We'll be reporting all of it here on the Midas Touch Network. I want to thank everybody for sticking with us during these difficult times. I know sometimes these times are times where you want to turn off and say, I can't anymore. I give up.
But I appreciate all you who are back in this fight. If you took a break or sticking this out, I know that I am fired up right now more than ever. And not that this really changes much, but I also want to emphasize that this truly was a, at the end of the day, a very close election.
I mean, let's look at what Ezra Klein wrote today. He wrote the following. He said, Trump is on track for a smaller popular vote victory than Hillary Clinton won in 2016. Democrats have work to do. They need to build a coalition that's not always two points from losing to MAGA, but I don't see Republicans internalizing that this was a narrow victory. And I think that's incredibly true. And I think what we are seeing now is I think Republicans are getting a little cocky.
I think Democrats are also viewing this as some sort of cataclysmic event that is unrecoverable. And I remember now all the elections that Democrats have lost in the past where every single time it has been a world is ending, um, uh,
Democrats need to reinvent the wheel. They need to change everything if they're going to reach people. They're never going to get any power again, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'll give you that this time is certainly different because we have somebody with authoritarian leanings, to say the least, in the White House. And we also have to see what happens in that regard and how the rest of our institutions hold to that. But I will say this, that pro-democracy was not rejected outright on election night.
And in fact, oddly enough, Democrats made quite a few gains during election day and actually had a lot of successes where if, and I know this is a big if, if the election didn't go the way it was, I think everybody would be celebrating that as a massive success for Democrats and Democratic messaging and the ideals of the Democratic Party in general. I think when you look to even like Kentucky turning to a liberal majority court,
Um, I think that says, you know, a whole lot when you see Michigan, um, you know, them nominating pro-democracy judges, when you see people like Alyssa Slotkin, uh, winning their races, when you see Ruben Gallego defeating Carrie Lake, you see that there is still a pretty big disgust at MAGA across the country. Now, somehow the voters have been able to separate that
From the man himself who who who created all these monsters, right? They seem to separate that from Donald Trump. They view Trump as his own thing. And if you carry like, oh, I can't vote for that lady. Yeah. I'm like, dude, you know that she's like the female version of Donald Trump. I don't know how you split that ticket, but people do.
but people do. And so it's going to be a whole new ball game in the future when that's not the case. And so I think we all just need to keep fighting every single day. We need to be aware of what's coming because we're not going to close our eyes to the reality of what's coming our way and the horrible stuff. I mean, I take Trump at his word and I take his acolytes at his word when they say they are going to do all these horrible things.
But we're going to fight through it together as a community. We're going to do it. We're going to keep our heads down. We're just going to put in the work every single day. We are going to do our best to be leaders. And we are calling on all of you out there. And that includes all of you watching. All the leaders out there, now is the time to make your voice heard.
Now there is a vacuum out there and people are craving leadership. People are craving somebody to explain what is the way forward. So if you are a politician, someone who wants to get into politics, someone who wants to get into community organizing, whatever it is, now is the time. Use this as a spark to ignite that in you and get out there and start spreading the message. Let's all get to work together. Jordy, final words.
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