When Violence is the Answer with Tim Larkin | The Power Move Podcast EP 59
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From the art of the deal to keeping it real.

Live from the Simply Vegas studios, it's The Power Move with Jon Gafford. Back again, back again, back again. Welcome for another episode of The Power Move. My name is Jon Gafford. I am your host on this show. We talk about business, we talk about life, we talk about strange and interesting things, and cool people come and share their secrets to success and what they do. Joining me in the studio today, as always, is Colt the Bulgarian Mongoose Amadan.

what's going on everybody what's the fire what's the fighting weight right now colin what's the fighting weight what is it 182 182 skinny fat skinny fat guy yeah that's fine and then also when the studio today chris the counselor connell gentlemen and sitting next to him in the studio in the hot seat today

is a friend of mine that I, scariest guy I know. Let's be honest with you. Let's be honest. I thought I was. No, for different reasons. I thought it was a vet. For different reasons. Yeah, that's the scariest guy I know. No, but in the studio today, Tim Larkin, I mean, has graced the cover of Black Belt Magazine, author of the book When Violence Is The Answer, which I think, if nothing else, that is the best title for a book in the history of books. Banned from the United Kingdom. Yes.

Still banned. Still banned from the United Kingdom. And a great story. We're going to talk to Tim today about his story. I got there. First of all, how you doing, Tim? Great, man. Thanks for having me on, man. Dude, thanks for coming in, man. I appreciate it. We're doing a little Tim Has a Great podcast, too. And call me and ask me a couple questions about our studio setup. And I said, I got a better idea. Why don't you just come over here? I can extrapolate some amazing stories from you. I'll show you how the studio works. This is worth the trip alone, man. I appreciate that, dude. I do.

So, first of all, in the news this week, a couple things we're going to talk about, obviously. Now, Colt, let me ask you a question.

Right. I haven't watched the news, so. All right. Well, two years ago, this is more of a trivia question, right? Two years ago, somebody went on the main stage at Inman, which is funny because Inman is actually right now. It starts today. For those of you who don't know what Inman is, it is the largest real estate conference of the year. It is the biggest one. It's here in Vegas, and it's going on right now. It starts today. The main stage there, there's probably, I don't know, 6,000, 7,000, 8,000 people in that room on the main stage. Yeah.

Somebody said on the main stage two years ago and essentially called all of the iBuyers, which are the companies like Opendoor, Offerpad, and these other companies, crooks and said they were perpetuating the greatest theft in American history as Wall Street stole the equity from homeowners on Main Street. Who was that, Colt? Well, that person didn't make friends that day. No. Who was it, though? Yeah.

It was you. That's right. It was me. That's right. It was me that did that. It did me. And since you didn't read the news this week, yesterday, the FTC, in their wise and judgment, decided to smack Opendoor, which is the leading iBuyer out there, with a $62 million fine for, in their words, not mine. Was it cheating? Yeah, it was cheating. It was essentially they were misleading homeowners as to the fact that

They had no fees and it was cheaper to sell with them than with a realtor. And after an in-depth study, the FTC determined that those homeowners would have made more money on the open market with a realtor. So I hate to say I told you so.

You do? You hate that? You know what? Does that bother you to say it? There's two things I hate to say. There's two things I do love to say. I told you so, and fuck you, Chili's. I like to say that, too. So anyway, but I got a new member of that. Are we going to Salt Lake anytime soon for that? Maybe. We need to go up there, but I have a new member of the Chili's Club. Uh-oh. Papa John's, dude. Dead to me.

Yeah, sure. Yeah. I think he said Popeye's for a second. I'm going. No, no, no. There's Popeye's. Popeye's gets a pass no matter what. Let's face it. So what was so bad with Papa John's that the N-word didn't lose you? You didn't lose them at the N-word a couple of years back. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yeah.

I'm a forgiver. Why don't you just sage on your retroactive? Okay, there we go. I just forgot to mention it. No, I read an article that said that they don't have enough people. I randomly read this article saying that Papa John's does not have enough employees. So they have outsourced their ordering overseas. And now everybody in the store is just a cooker driver. Right. Which I get. This seems smart to me.

So, randomly, my son, just out of the blue, we never order from there, goes, I want Papa John's. Really? Okay. So, me and Gidget were getting ready to go to your house. Yep. And I was like, so we'll order Papa John's. I go, no problem ordering it. Obviously, talking to a third world country, could hear the call center in the background. You knew it was not a restaurant when you called. And the lady's like, it'll be 30 minutes. Okay. An hour later, we're still on pizza.

So I call up and I kind of had to finagle the number to actually get to the store. And I get to the store and I was like, you guys, I can help you. I'm like, dude, it's been over an hour for our pizza. No, I'm sorry. This wouldn't have been an hour and 10 minutes. And I was like, it's been over an hour and 10 minutes. And she's like, he's like, oh yeah, that's bad, dude. Hang on a second. You want to talk to manager? I said, yes, I do. And on comes Barbara. Barbara comes on. Babs. And Babs, this is exactly what Babs says. Yeah. Can I help you? Yeah. We ordered a pizza. They told me it's gonna be 30 minutes. It's been an hour and 10 minutes. We still don't have it.

Yeah, we're running behind. Well, I know, but we have to leave, and I was told it was going to be here. I just told you we're running behind. You know what? What's your name? My name is Barbara. Okay, Barbara. This is how we're running this? This is how we're going to handle this problem today? I think I'd like a refund. Fine. I'll call the driver. Tell him not to bring your pizza. Click. And I'm going to call my agent.

Well, John. Not the best way to handle customer service in my opinion. Okay, but did they serve you six margaritas and tow your car? They did not serve me six margaritas. Let's keep things in perspective. I'd say Babs plus the N-word now. Okay, fine. Babs by herself. Babs by herself, John. Maybe just chalk one up. Yeah, they did not. They did not. Yeah, maybe not as bad as serving me six margaritas and towing my car. Maybe not that bad.

I'm not done with you, Chili's. You think I'm done with you. I'm going to come creeping up and just when you think you're safe, I'll be there. You trust me. John's like every NFL female fan right now who's going. Six games, Deshaun Watson. Six games. Six games? I heard that. Let me ask. Calvin Ridley got 17 for betting a $1,500 parlay on a team he didn't play for. And who was the receiver for the Browns for the weed smoking four years ago? Yeah, Jarvis Landry.

Jarvis Landry, unbelievable. Tim, you watch football, NFL, follow that? Yeah, unfortunately on my side of it, every time there's an incident, I'm always getting the calls on some guy hitting his wife. 25 independent people. He just watches Page Six and TMZ and kind of gets a full season. That's what he's doing. Well, anyway, this weekend, other news. I want to talk about something else without going fully into detail on it.

But man, I had an exercise in emotions all weekend. I mean, really did. We had a situation with the company where somebody that had been with us for a long time, really close to my family kind of did made, it's made some decisions for them and that's fine. But the optics of it were somewhat treacherous in our view. And again,

Man, my instinct, you know, I try to follow the stoic thing and it's not, this story is not even about that. It's about this. So I try to go with the stoicism idea and I try to be very level headed about everything that I do. And I try to, you know, think about Marcus Aurelius and blah, blah, blah, whatever else. And, you know, this, I was fine about it until my wife got very upset about it. And then I went to straight just,

laser beams coming out of my eyes, right? Looking for like out for vengeance. I did. And I spent the better part of the weekend fighting the need for vengeance and fighting the need to be calm, right? And

Very proud of myself. Did not really do anything all weekend, which was fine. And then last night, it's been carried over all weekend, but last night I had a dream and it was a good dream. This was the dream we talked about earlier. So I dreamed that I was in a house and it was my house and it was like kind of a weird kind of wood ceiling and there were these cobwebs on the ceiling.

right and i couldn't get them down with anything else for some reason so i was like oh i got a blow torch hang on hear me out hang on hear me out i was like i was like he had a nuclear missile i know but i'm like heat melts cobwebs so i'm like i like the blowtorch and i'm just kind of torching off the cobwebs and like there's some spiders i'm getting a nuke and i'm cleaning up i'm like oh this is great i'm cleaning all this up and all of a sudden i realized i've set my roof on fire yeah sure right

And I woke up thinking. You need a roofing company? 702 Roofing. 702 Roofing. For all your roofing. No, but I woke up thinking, man, if I go piss and vinegar at this, it's going to burn my whole house down. So I just woke up with it. You know what? Just play to win.

Play on an even field. Do the right thing. Do those things. And don't get sucked into the vitriol side of it. And I just was, I woke up this morning in such a peaceful feeling because I felt like God had sent me that dream to be like, bro, don't burn your house down over this. It's not worth it.

It's never been it was great. I know but I just I thought that was really good. I thought it was good much needed I'm sure too much needed much needed so enough about all of this nonsense if you're still with us man nine minutes deep Thank you for staying. It's been great Let's cover Tim. So Tim first of all, let's talk about you So tell me about your background because again, I like to you know, you're a high-level entrepreneur, dude You're a successful guy with what you do and you took something kind of interesting Which was your martial arts and your background in self-defense and turn it into into a productive business

business. So you mixed, you kind of blended your passions with the finance side of things. So I like that. So again, we like to believe that success leaves clues. So tell me, where did you grow up? Let's talk about that first. Navy kid. So all over the place. Originally Boston, Massachusetts. That's where my family's from. How many siblings? I have two. I have a younger brother and a younger sister. So we were moving every two to three years. And then dad was an officer in the Navy and went everywhere.

So I was used to that. And one thing I got to say about that is it gives me the ability to, from an entrepreneurial standpoint, I realize nothing's permanent and change is always there. And having to connect with people and stuff was really good. As a young kid, I didn't realize that. But I never...

you know my wife and i talk about this all the time you know when she uh when she gets ready to move on from her position we're thinking about going overseas and stuff because uh you know we know how powerful that is for the kids i got to live overseas for a while um so that really helped not the uk though tim they will not be letting me in the uk what was your favorite place you lived we're gonna get there uh i i really enjoyed barcelona um

I've also spent time in Venezuela and then, funny enough, London. I went to school at LSE for a year. Won't they go on the reunion there, Tim? The only problem is every friend I have when they go through London, I get barraged with photos, videos, all my favorite places. I was there two months ago. It's non-stop harassment.

You're not missing a lot. Pretty bad. Pretty poor weather. Yeah. Food's still no good. Their best chefs leave and go get trained in France for a very specific reason. Still no good food. Very true.

So moved around. Yeah, moved around. And then dad's last duty station was 32nd Street in San Diego. Right across, the Navy housing we were in is right across over in Coronado, on NAB Coronado. We literally, we lived in, my backyard was a chain link fence. There's a silver strand highway. And then you looked right across.

And there was this huge obstacle course. You can see the SEAL training course. Yeah. We had no idea. Now, you got to understand, this is 80, 70, no, 79. Back then, nobody knew about the SEAL teams. And even though I was, you know, my dad was in Little Creek before, which is the other place, Damn Neck, you know, you've always heard of that, where the teams are. We kind of knew of them, but I had no idea what they did.

And so were they called seals then? No, it was UDT seals. So underwater demolition teams, they still had underwater demolition teams and it was still called buds, basic underwater demolition school. Um, but there's, there's, uh, the UDT teams, they're the traditional, uh, underwater demolition and they support the fleet and they do the, they're the guys that, uh, would go in and blow up all the Jesse Ventura. Yeah. All that stuff. They blow up everything before America have the Marines land and do all that. Um,

But for me and my brother, we were like, oh, we got our own playground. And so we would ride our bikes, literally ride our bikes across the freaking freeway. Yeah, we'd go across the freeway. Mom had no idea what we were doing. And then we figured that if we threw... Oh, the early 80s, late 70s. Mom didn't know what any of us were doing. You got a 12-year-old kid. You got a 12-year-old kid and an 11-and-a-half-year-old kid. I'm sorry, a 10-and-a-half-year-old kid.

And we figured out if we throw a rug over the barbed wire, we can get over. And we start playing on the, on the roster courses. Could you imagine if you did that nowadays? So they start, you know, they start kicking us off a couple of times and then they realize we're not getting rid of these kids. And so they let us hang out. Really? And I learned about this job. I was like, Oh my God, you get paid to jump out of airplanes, you know, run around where these cool sunglasses, they were in the Varnay sunglasses back then. And,

And, uh, yeah, Varnays. Oh yeah, buddy. And, uh, you know, shoot machine guns, blow stuff up, you know? And so then my dad thought it was pretty funny. I was hanging out with the seals until I told him about this great weekend that I had where a couple of the guys told me, Hey, come down, you go down the beach, you go down the beach. And if this guy had, I think about it now, uh,

he every time they would they would blow up like c4 and stuff they'd grab a little bit and they'd keep it back in the team area and then on the weekends they'd go down and they just like they make little bombs and throw it so i'm sitting there i'm like 12 years old learning how to take c4 and just blow stuff up this could be good for you when you're hunting humans thing called you could use this we'll talk after do you have any more and how much is it

So it was crazy. And so I really enjoyed it. So I was hooked. You know, this was it. So the only deal my dad said was, hey, listen. He goes, you're going to get an education. So I go ROTC.

I go to USC, but the whole time I'm just immersed. All I'm doing is prepping for buds. Did you graduate from SC? Yeah, graduated from SC. I might need a letter from you soon. I went, I think they'd take it from me. I left out of their okay. Okay, all right, good. It's not the UK. I had a couple of incidents while there. Wait, this letter, is this from the UK guy? Yeah, exactly. No. Oh, exactly. Yeah.

Where that really comes into play is my wife. It's really funny. I come across the board every so often as a band individual, which really works with Metro.

For those of you who don't know, his wife, Sasha, what's the current job she has? She's Deputy Chief of Homeland Security. Deputy Chief of Homeland Security. And I'm banned. There's three people banned from the UK. One of them was that guy who worked in Al-Qaeda cutting people's heads off. Snoop Dogg. Snoop was for Poposition. We'll get to you. And then there's me. And then there's me. Oh, my God.

But what was really cool about that was, you know, talk about from an entrepreneurial standpoint, absolutely ridiculous to think because they did not want back then, which is crazy. People think now back then the Navy did not want an officer candidate to go to the SEAL teams. It was it was the redheaded stepchildren of the Navy, you know, because they really didn't belong in the Navy.

And there wasn't really a career path back then. Those were mercs. Yeah, exactly. They weren't officers. They were mercs. The unique thing about it was those guys, the one thing I respect, the fact that they weren't at that chance to ever become an admiral or anything like that.

When they ran missions, a three-star could tell them, well, you go do this. If the officer didn't think it was safe for his guys, he literally had the power to go, F you. You know, we're not doing it. And today, you can't even think of that. Now it's very political and everything. But so anyways, I had to really fight. There were only two slots, 2,500 guys applied. We all looked the same on paper.

And the one thing I knew from moving around and knowing from the Navy at that time, I was like, I got to leave everything on the floor. What do I do? I had a buddy that was going to school at American University in D.C.,

Everything happens in DC. That's where the detailer officers offices are. So I flew to DC hung out with my buddy. I had been everybody told me in the community because I didn't know guys in the community. They go well, you got it. You got to handle Margaret and Margaret's your gatekeeper. She had been there like 25 years. She ran every detailer detailer goes every two three years. She did it right.

So, uh, so wait, were you in the Navy at this? Yeah. I'm an officer trained. So I'm midshipman. So I show him a little midshipman uniform and I'd been sending her flowers and doing anything. I show up there and she goes, listen, she goes, I can't promise you anything. She said, you can sit here. And she said, commander, the guy's name is commander Goulet. She goes, he may or may not see you. Now this is on a Tuesday. I sat there three days.

in a smaller place like this, not as comfortable as this, in my uniform like this, being ignored. Bud Fox style. Walking out, in and out the whole day, right? Like me and you at a bar when you're single. Same thing. Trust me, I did that for longer than three days. So I'm sitting there Friday, Friday at 4.55. And this is the Navy building, which is next to the Pentagon area. I'm sitting there and I hear this, and I go,

You're still here? Why are you still on my couch? I go, well, I said, sir, I just wanted to talk to you. What could you possibly have to say to me? I said, sir, listen, I know you have a big decision. I said, I know everybody looks the same on paper. I just want you to know if you pick me, I will not quit. He goes, that's it? That's what you said to me? I go, yes, sir. And he goes, get out of my office. So I leave. Man, I'm dejected. I think I really screwed up. I'm walking down this

ungodly long haul, you know, with just like the linoleum and everything. And my head's down. I'm kind of like, oh man, I blew it. You know, Margaret kind of looked at me on the way out. And told you, I get halfway down the place. And one of the guys was a JG at the time, Lieutenant JG. He runs down. He goes, Larkin. And I turn around and he goes, hey man, he goes, we couldn't do this to you. He goes, we just want you to know you had it.

Wednesday. We just wanted to see how long you'd stick around. Yeah. And so, you know, it's that whole idea of the, the, just, you know, the one thing I teach my kids too, is like, take it to the next level, you know, go, go where it was now. Listen, I had to perform and it was interesting as I ended up getting injured, you know, like I blew my years two weeks before I was graduating.

In butts? Yeah. Yeah. And I had everything, man. I was the superstar because it was unfair because I'd been known since I was 12 years old what to do. So my guys, we won Hell Week. We did everything. Every hard evolution. But I had bad ears. And I knew that going in, you guys are going to crack up. I literally took my, before I applied, the Navy gives you your medical records, physical medical records. Everything about my ears, I literally ripped out.

And I handed it over in my packet and they had no idea I had bad ears. Like I had small eustachian tubes. There's no way. I mean, the thought of me being able to pressurize dive the way I have to is ridiculous. But I got all the way through until one of the last dives and that's, it blew my ears and that was it. So I didn't get to, I was going to seal, back then I was going to seal team four.

So hang on a second. So you had to drop, you had to ring the bell. You had to drop out. No, no, no ring the bell. No, it's called medical discharge. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, I fought tooth and nail. And they go, listen, if something happens, you can come back. So that's, I mean, that's a big pivot point, man. Because this is something you've been working for your whole life. And all of a sudden it's yanked from you. I thought my life was over. But the cool, the interesting part about it was,

you know, when it comes to life and stuff, it was the first time, I mean, I literally, they beat the crap out of me. Nothing stopped me, you know, going through, this was truly the first time I had an injury to my human, to the human body that I couldn't overcome. I couldn't, my will, it meant nothing. Like it physically stopped me. And of course that became the theme of my life, you know, later on is, is the idea of exploiting injury to the human body, you know, for self-protection reasons. But,

But back then, I thought, you know, I'm 21. I thought my life was over. How long? I mean, did you go through a period of depression? Oh, yeah. So did they reassign you in the Navy? Did they leave you out of the Navy? What happened? I was super fortunate because they really liked me. They really liked me. And they said, listen, you're staying in the community. We're going to send you to Intel School and want you to come back as Special Warfare Intelligence. Because they were expanding at the time.

And they didn't want to wait. Let me think about it. They didn't want to waste a healthy body on Intel. So they said, hey, we can have this kid. He knows what we're up to. He goes, we'll train him up and bring him back. They put me on the most senior command when I came back. I worked directly for the admiral who controlled all the SEAL teams back in Coronado. And I was literally surrounded by the legends of the SEAL teams. Berlin Wall's coming down, and they know we got to change the way we do business. They predicted everything. They predicted Bosnia-Herzegovina, all this stuff. Sure.

But the big thing was we had to change our training and we had to actually put hands on people again. And I had a martial arts background growing up, judo, jiu-jitsu, boxing. My grandfather was a big boxer and got me in early. So they're like, I had no business. They put this little pilot program together where all these senior enlisted guys that were on command, they decided, listen, we got to start looking for a new way of doing hand-to-hand combat. The last time they chained it was Vietnam.

So I'm on this pilot program and the only reason they have me is because I'm pretty, I'm young, I got a good martial arts background and I'm a meat puppet. You know, they can knock me around and have fun. So we're doing this and we're literally seeing all the martial artists from all over the world and they're coming in and everything worked but it didn't work when we put our gear back on. So that was a big thing. So I end up, I had really good relationships with the other groups because I was briefing everybody. I was briefing DEA, I was working with Army, I was working with everybody.

DEA buddy calls up because a lot of stuff was going on if you know say Narcos oh yeah yeah well that was all going on during that time and so I had a bunch of DEA buddies and they were training up for everything so my buddy calls me up he goes hey man he goes you guys still doing that punchy kicky stuff you know because they were laughing at us we were doing hand in hand it's not like the UFC the UFC really hadn't taken off yet um

And I go, yeah, asshole, we did. And he goes, well, listen, there's this guy in PB. He goes, you might want to do me. He goes, he's a real, he's a real asshole, but you get along with assholes. And, and that's another thing. People used to call me like the asshole whisperer because, because what's something like that cost? Yeah, that's Christmas only. I mean, you got to ask, you can't afford it, buddy. That's how that works. Well,

Oh, you mean you could come unruly people to, okay. Oh, what I found was, uh, that's the first, that's the first time I thought about an only, only fans account. That would be good. The asshole whisperer. That would already exist. I'm going to go ahead and take a guess. Um,

But what he meant by that was he said, Hey, listen, you know, this guy's a difficult guy and they don't, what I found is that people have the best knowledge when it comes to this kind of stuff. Um, they don't suffer fools. They're not necessarily popular, you know, meaning, meaning they're very effective. You want them, but, uh,

It's weird. When you look back at the history of martial arts, everybody talks about Miyamoto Musashi, the swordsman who killed 60, who wrote Five Wings. What they don't tell you is he was never sponsored. He was the most effective swordsman. His way of teaching. But because it was so straightforward and brutal...

He couldn't get any funding basically, you know, he had to have a patron to do that. So his sorority at the very end, he had a guy that kind of helped him out, but here's the most effective guy, but because of his personality, because of who he was, he wasn't acceptable. And, you know, I find that oftentimes is that in times of peace when you don't need it, you know,

these people get, you know, pushed away because they're not, you know, socially, they're tough to be around. He was a true artist too, right? Yeah. Like calligrapher. And Oh yeah. He was sort of on his own level. Yeah. He just, yeah. He probably half autistic in some ways. He's just like, why don't you understand how to murder people with a sword? I don't get it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, he was, but he was so elegant in how he did it. You know, he was so like, he really understood how to get that done. Right now, somewhere, Yvette is listening to this, Googling this guy's name to learn how to kill Colt with a sword. That's what's happening right now. Five Rings is one of the best business books you can read, too. What is it? Five Rings. Five Rings. Miyamoto Musashi. Five Rings. Okay, there you go. It's very Buddhist. Yeah.

It is. And so there's a couple of interpretations that really, uh, that we get a certain version of it. Uh, it's very straightforward and you can, you can extrapolate a lot of great information out of it. Um, but he was very straightforward about what he did and same thing. So I go to this place, uh,

I show up and it's like this little dingy studio. It's carpet, not even, you know, mats. I was going to, I think I thought maybe he was jerking my chain. So I about to leave. It's not open, but I see this little trifold and it talks about the instructor. And the only thing that got me to go back was I knew my military history. This guy had been to Vietnam and he just said it just, he didn't make a big deal out of it. He just said one 73rd Charlie company.

I almost like was stunned because these guys were literally left out in the jungle and they were like Westmoreland special. He wanted to see how long you keep people out there. This guy happened to be a tunnel rat. So he literally, cause he's a little, a little guy, he would go down with a 45 and a knife, go into that. I mean, just, you know, so I said, listen, if nothing else, I said, I got to see who this is, you know? So I go in the next day and I go to this, I go to this training and I got modified grooming standards at that time, meaning I have longer hair because I,

lot of what we're doing sometimes I have to look like a civilian and going so I look like a typical San Diego surfer when I walked in and I'm hanging out I'm watching and I see these kids now they're in regular geese but the first thing I see a kid do with a yellow belt on and now I have three black belts at the time at this point and again I'm training with the teams I'm training with this is built in scene and I'm seeing some of the best martial arts in the world this kid comes in against another kid slams him in the side of neck and

Colm grabs his hair and out of nowhere comes a rubber knife and he has a kid over he needs him to the solar plexus and he starts stabbing him in the neck dropping him and going right into the next guy and I'm like wait this is what we're looking we've never seen anything what is this what were the auspices was it like who are these guys Hapkido or Aikido or something what did they call it what was so funny was that he was calling it Kung Fu at the time he was calling it Kung Fu and he trained with a guy in LA that was a former triad guy

And it's really interesting. But he didn't do it like anybody else that does the type of kung fu. He was very straightforward about how to take people out. That was his big thing. But he did it in a very, he wasn't a brutal guy, but he was very, well, he was a brutal guy, but he wasn't, there was no chest bumping or anything like that. It was just about, hey, this is how you do it. You take him on, you want to learn how to, he would tell people, I remember guys would come in and say, you're going to teach me anything good. How do you kill somebody? Like this. Wham, wham, wham, wham. And they go,

And people would freak out because they think they want that information, but they don't realize how easy it is to do to somebody. And so you've got to be careful what you ask for. Lesson learned, Colt. Tim, we've got to be careful what we're teaching Colt here. I just want you to understand, last podcast he actually asked me, how much fun would it be to murder a human being?

I'm top three scariest guys you've ever seen, right there. Just the fact you're Bulgarian background. He's not. He's not. That's just scary. I'm trying to. I just need a good nickname. Persona to be scary. Turquoise shirt. But I'll say this. We'll take a little break from Meltzer. We're going to come back to it, but I just want to know, because you would consider yourself a world-class athlete in martial arts at this time, correct? Oh, yeah. What were your backgrounds? So you, as someone that is a world-class athlete,

can understand the amount of work it goes in to build a world-class athlete, correct? Yes. Okay, Colt, ask him.

So in summer, winter Olympics, could you be an Olympian? No. No, no, no, no, no, no. Him first. Okay. In summer, winter Olympics. In either one. In either one. Could you have been an Olympian at your best? Oh, at that time. No. Okay. And you're a third degree black belt. Yeah. Okay. You ever ridden a horse? Yeah.

Actually, I have written it. There you go. Equestrian. So feel free to ask him. Ask him. Don't do this. I'm just saying I could be on the curling team and the equestrian team. Colt feels that he could be an Olympian inside of 12 months in either curling or equestrian because the horse does all the work. That is the craziest thing ever.

Now that I know Tim, maybe I could go to judo. 12 months, Tim. Look at this. Rhonda Rousey. Enough of your complete nonsense. What were your black belts in? Did you have a...

Yeah. Judo. I did Judo, uh, Tungstu and, um, uh, Taekwondo. So the only thing that was available. Yeah. Tungstu is a Korean karate. It's a karate. Yeah. Yeah. In Taekwondo, same thing. Um, and then, uh, Judo is very practical and then boxing. We did that. The Marines taught us Judo and boxing. Yeah. And, um, that was the only thing that was available, you know, basically anything that was on any base, it was where I got a training as a, as a Navy kid, you know? Um,

And it was great. I loved it. It was really fun. But I thought, well, the other thing too that I learned moving around, Boston, you know, my grandfather, my grandfather, my great-grandfather ran liquor with Joe Kennedy. My grandmother denied that. Denied that to her dying day. He had a bunch of pool halls. My grandfather was a jazz musician, took it legit. And then he got insurance and real estate. Nice. So he was doing that, but he still had that edge.

And he taught all me and my cousins how to box. It was one of the first things we ever did. But he said something to me that lasted. And again, this is what the guy I talked to, same thing. He would tell us, he goes, boys, these are the rules when you're in the ring, blah, blah, blah. And we're in the basement doing that. But then he'd point to the window in the basement. He'd go, but if you're out there. He goes, no, you do this, you do that. He knew there was definitely different between a sport application and what happens in the street because he'd seen it.

And it was really interesting. As a young kid, we didn't really understand what he was saying, but it all resonated later on and stuff. So let's go back to the gym. I'll talk about the guy in the yellow belt that was killing people with a rubber knife. Yeah, so I see that. And again, I'm used to these huge egos that I'm dealing with these guys. Me too. God, it's exhausting.

They're on Black Belt Magazine. It's not an ego if it's true. Oh, yeah. And they're getting all the accolades. Again, this is all pre-UFC. But it's around the time of Kickboxer. I just want to say that. Yeah. Straight to Kickboxer. Jean-Claude Van Damme is around at that time. Yep.

You know Sasha's that was in Kickboxer 4? What? Oh, yeah. No. I got to get you the clip. Really? I got to get you the clip. It's great. It's classic. That's your wife, right? Yes. Yeah. She's a fourth degree in Kempo. Jeez. How'd you meet her? Met her in yoga. Really? Yeah. Dude, Sasha, his wife, if you've never met her, she is nice. She's super, super nice. But the way she presents herself when she's out socially, you would never,

never know no idea but it's in that like you dude you're like i i see you coming from like a mile away you would never know never like you would fight her in celebrity boxing or something colt and she would just murder you but don't you find most people are willing to do that that would be great i feel that extra cigars most people that truly like

study that or have gone down that, you know, you never see it coming from them. That's why I always tell people, don't mess with people in bars because I'm sure how many people have gone up to you trying to fight you. Well, that's why I laugh about that all the time with people. It's like, yeah, I look the part. I get it. I look the part. But that'll bring it on. I'm not the guy. Yeah, and I tell people that all the time. I go, but I'm not the guy you got to worry about. The guy I always have to worry about is he's usually anywhere from

You know, five, six, five, six to five, eight, 145 to 165 pounds nondescript. And, you know, while the knucklehead like me is there, you know, flexing around, yelling at people and stuff that everybody thinks you got to worry about. He's the one that's quietly sipping his beer, you know, slipping the knife out.

and just ready oh boy and uh one thing that got me my brother my brother was a big dude and he used to be a bouncer in san diego uh in mission mission beach when it was mission beach it's just a biker place and the place that he bounced at was uh jose murphy's and jose's murphy's was the mongols and the angels would show up on the weekends and stuff and they're regularly stuff going on

I'm there one night and I take all my SEAL buddies over there. We just had a great time. They had live music. It was a fun dive bar. But the bouncers were amazing. They would have to be. This one guy, Mike, he's as tall as John, but he's 280 and just ripped. And he was great. He was also very good. He understood human nature. And usually every night, Mike wouldn't do this.

There's a little guy sitting at the bar just having a beer. It's closing. It's 2 o'clock, closing time, and Mike's tired as hell. You know, it's been a long weekend. He's telling everybody to drink up and go. Well, this guy's not really paying attention, and he's just kind of drinking his beer. And Mike takes it as an affront that this guy isn't moving fast enough. So he says to him,

he goes hey i told you to drink yeah i told you to stop right now he goes oh i'm just finishing up like that he goes i told you now and he just kind of throws his hand out hits the guy in the chest guy goes over slaps up boom mike stands over him you know on here this guy's calculation must have been 280 ripped the he bouncer nah not happening today the knife came out the achilles got cut

came up, cut the inside and the femoral. Oh. And he walked right out the door before any of us knew, before any of us knew even what happened.

He literally, you could tell, not the first time this guy's done it. Totally calm. - He knew exactly where to go. - And he knew what to do. - And it came out quickly. - And to this day, Mike still limps and stuff. He's a lot older now and stuff like that. - Oh, jeez. - Would have been my wife. - But it was just, it was one of those moments where it was just such a teachable moment for me. 'Cause I'm still a young guy at this time.

And you just realize, man, I'm always polite to everybody. I tell people all the time, like, you know, I treat everybody like they're six seconds away from a shooting spree. And do I want to be the guy to trigger them? Meaning with people you don't know, if you approach it from that aspect, it's just an amazing way to just keep yourself out of trouble. Well, the number one thing that...

Gets people in trouble is not being prepared for that guy who's gonna start hitting you first I don't care if it's I don't care if it's your mother and she walks up to you hits you first. Yeah multiple times I don't care who she is what size it is

The human body isn't supposed to get punched that often. Right. And when you're not expecting, if you're expecting it, there's this thing that happens. Right. But if you're not, you're just standing there. Some guy hits you twice. I mean, you're going, you're in big trouble. So that's, most people freeze because they're not, I didn't expect such a interrupt, you know, to the, to them. And so, yeah. And so you, you learn a lot. You know, I tell people,

at this stage, you know, training people in, in how to protect themselves and everything. The majority of what I train people in really is understanding human nature. It really is like, uh, Robert Green. I'm going to be interviewing him, uh, in two weeks. Sweet. And his book, the laws of human nature, I think is 48 laws of power. Well, 48 laws of power. This is great. We have been through that book on this and Colts like Machiavellian. Can I come and meet this guy? Yeah. I love it. That's amazing. I think it'll be a zoom that we're doing. Um,

man, that was my favorite. That was your favorite episode. That was your favorite episode. His latest, his latest laws of human nature. I think this is his opus because it takes 48 laws of power and then it just applies it to the whole human race. So five rings. Yep.

And Five Rings. May I have a Sashay? And now what's the new one? The new one's Laws of Human Nature. Laws of Human Nature. So those need to go on the reading list if you're picking it up. And they're excellent for negotiation. You know, some of the things I love about this show is we always come up with stuff people should read. I love that. I do love that.

The most interesting people in the world, though, the ones that I like to speak to the most are like walking legs with books on them. Oh, yeah. If you're well read, read particularly because there's a thought process that goes on to actually sit with a book, even an audio book. There's something about it. Like you can watch news, you can watch clips, but there's nothing more in depth than, you know, a book. Yeah. It goes into detail. Like right now I was just in a car for 12 hours. So I got the River of Doubt, that one book.

about uh teddy roosevelt's trip down the amazonian river oh yeah i saw a review on that holy holy shit wow just when you think about things like that so you get to be immersive you put yourself in there and you're thinking about things as it's being told to you so it's just i think your brain starts doing this thing where it spreads out more than just linear information that's what i think books are valuable for well i think books are books are really good that way and it's it's funny because as a kid when you're forced to read stuff

It's the worst thing ever. They say reading is like anal sex. If you're forced to do it as a kid, you're not going to like it as an adult. I came out of nowhere. That wasn't my joke. Tim, how did you end up in the UK? Oh, jeez. Oh, my God.

Oh, man. Wasn't my quote. Yeah, that's not. JFK quote. Was that a famous JFK quote? I think it was Lincoln. I think it was Lincoln. I just added that one. That's awesome. Brought to you by our sponsor, The Asshole Whisperer. There you go.

right now on only fans so did you go after your government work and just start consulting yeah so uh what i started working so the guy that i that i i found i actually that guy was tell i told you about that the actual instructor was the guy that i brought to the team compound and

And, you know, they knew. I didn't bring them around. You got to understand. Here I am, this guy, blows his ears and buds. I got no credibility whatsoever. You know, they like me. But, you know, I'm talking, these guys are legends, you know, at the time. And the only reason I did it was because they noticed I started to train differently. We trained like three or four times a week. And I remember Master Chief Hayden at the time, Roger Hayden, great guy. He came up to me and goes, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Well, he goes, you're moving different. He goes, you're doing stuff. He goes, this is not stuff we've been training. What were you getting? Well, I've been training with this guy who you've been training with, you know, the whole thing. Right. And so then they find you and you didn't bring them in here. Master chief. I didn't know, you know? Right. So I bring this guy in and he, like I said, he's former army and everything. The only problem is,

He thinks lifers are worthless. And in particular, he doesn't like the SEALs because he thinks they're overrated. And he's in there. But what was really interesting was I bring him in. It was kind of like the whole old Maxwell Smart thing. I brought him into the SCIF, which is the compartmentalized area. And they were going to talk about the programs and everything. They had his DD-214 there. They had his whole record. They vetted him ahead of time. So they knew who he was.

man there was a camaraderie right away and what was interesting was everybody else we brought in was talking about punching kicking moving first question they asked him from a tactical standpoint was tactical and it was about a seal team six boarding ship boarding incident that had happened where

They had gone to go through the first hatch, the first door, to get into the control room. And they had been jacked up. One of the guys, one of the bad guys, had jacked up the second guy in the line going in. And everybody else is held out. They can't get past it. And the number one man is fighting for his life. You know, he's in there, you know, shooting everybody. And they hadn't in six years, nobody had come up with how to deal with it.

My guy sits there, looks at it, lines everybody up right away. He doesn't know the nomenclature of the latest weapons and everything, but he lines everybody up.

replicates the same thing. The guy comes up playing the bad guy, jacks the guy exactly as this guy had been jacked up and held up. And Jerry looks at him, he points at the guy, he goes, lie back and sit down. Guy lies back, sits down, and it pulls the guy off, but the weapon goes center line on him. So think about it. If somebody is sitting there, and we use this on retention for your free weapon,

If somebody grabs your weapon, if I sit down and pull and this guy's holding on the weapon, it goes center line every time. So not only did the rest of the team be able to go in right away, but the guy that was wrestling with him, he's on target and takes them out like that. Had nothing to do with punching and kicking, had nothing. And that's why I try to tell people, I go, when we did this, it wasn't,

This guy didn't get the contract for, you know, impressive martial arts. It was because tactically he knew, he knew how to kill. He understood what the deal was. And so he immediately got a pilot program. We got in, we're training. So I'm great. You know, we're, everything's going great. Uh, having fun. I become an instructor in the military. We do these amazing classes out at San Clemente Island. We're 30 days out there each time and just immersing ourselves in this. And this guy was great. He,

He just brought in all his Vietnam background and the guys loved him. It was really fun. But I'm going to get out because this is right after Gulf War I. We'd done Panama, Gulf War I. And then what people forget is there was this lull. And everybody started getting out of the military because they were like, you know, doing pizza delivery to Haiti and stuff. It was just like nobody wanted to. Everybody's getting out. Bosnia. Yeah, so I get out. So I get out and...

I'm going to Wall Street you know I have a my degree was international business you know from SC and I'd done a year in London overseas and um so I'm going okay yeah I'll go my buddy had a place for me I was going to go to I think Morgan Stanley. Did you retire military? I we didn't retire I was in the reserves so I stayed in the reserves but you know that's a that's an easy commitment and um really cool unit in the reserves uh that I did an intel unit but um

So I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna take six months off before I go. I'm just gonna, I had money, you know, that set aside and I was just going to kick back and do some stuff. So my, the, the instructor, the guy there, he starts getting contracts. So everybody finds out the SEALs training with this guy. And then he wants to go to the brag and just do the tour, you know, and everybody wants them. And then corporate groups are calling them because a lot of the guys get out and they go corporate security. And so all of a sudden Exxon's calling us and everything. And Jerry's like, Hey, I,

That's not me. I don't know how to negotiate with these guys. Can you help me out with it for a little bit? So six months turned into 12 years. And dude, I had a career like, it had nothing to do with money, you know, because, you know, I made okay money. But we did, I had access to the people and, you know, we met CEOs and celebrities and all these other people that I'd never, a traditional career, I'd never would have had this. Even a traditional career in the military. Well, yeah.

we got to get to England. Yeah, well, so... Right now, I just feel it. Somebody's in their car listening to this and they're like, can we get to the damn England story? What about the John Wick shooting training? Yeah, let's get to that. So, yeah, that's actually pretty funny.

I said I was going to come join you. So I go and I train with this guy and we're together 12 years. And then he basically, his ego got out of control. And unfortunately, everybody, you know, he kind of isolated everybody, you know, on that. And so, which again, he was a functioning sociopath. I mean, he'd seen some things. It was good. Yeah. Oh no, he was great. I'm thankful every day I met him and everything, but it went its course. And then I went off and I was going to, again, get back in the business world and

all of a sudden start getting calls from everybody because he's not training anybody. He's not returning any of these calls and stuff. So I start training again. So I, I ended up taking a lot of my old instructors, a lot of my old military guys came back and we all started, you know, really doing a great business and it was fun. And this time,

We had no constraints. We could train. Jerry would always try to constrain stuff. So it got really popular. I started training internationally. And London was an obvious place for me to go because I had a lot of contacts over there. So I trained their special forces, their military, their police. Plus I started doing civilian training. So I started getting known. I started getting interviewed over there. I became like way more in the media over there than I ever was over here. So I'm on numerous shows and I'm,

In 2006, I did a show, and they had knife crime starting there. The place I was trained was a place called Slough. And just real quick, I forgot to show you guys this. That's Tim on the old cover of Black Belt Magazine. You can't see this from the podcast. Maybe you can zoom in on that. I don't know. But cover of Black Belt Magazine looking. With the knife. The best part about that is. I love that picture. That picture. I'm sitting there. We're doing all these other lines.

This seems to be like your Facebook profile. Like, hey, how you doing? I'm showing everything in the last pic. The guy goes, hey, you know, I need something with a knife. Will you just hold the knife like this? And I'm going, I'd never hold a knife like this. Yeah, what kind of knife? And I take a shit and I look at my buddy and I go, that's the fucking...

fucking pick that they're going to use. That's what they use. You look kind of like one of the guys that they're going to tee up Steven Seagal to win, even though you have to be like... That's exactly what he looks like. That's exactly what he looks like. You know he's going to lose. Henchman number seven. Teeed up henchman. Okay, send in handsome henchman. Just drop. Just drop. No talking because you'll get a sad card. He's going to throw me over for some reason. No.

So I do this roundtable where they bring me in as like the crazy American, you know, but I get the head of Metropolitan Police, a rabbi, a former head of the MI6. The bombies. And at the end, everybody agrees with my approach. They say it's same social, you know, same, you know, in there. It's really relevant to accept the MP from Slough, right?

so her name is rosie something anyways i go back into the green room and she's sitting with another mp friend of hers woman so i shake hands with both of them you know then 2011 they have the riots in london okay so fast forward you know i've been training this whole time never had even a parking ticket over there and i get called i'm here in vegas and i get called for uh

interviews. And so BBC interviews me and everybody, and the next day,

The last question the BBC interviewer asked me was, hey, you've been coming here for a long time. You have a lot of clients. Did you have any clients in the riot affected areas? And I said, well, yes. And my whole premise was, hey, it's time for the UK to look at their self-defense laws. They have to change. It's obvious they have to change. And I said, yes, I do have clients in the affected area. Do anyone want to show you the areas? And he said, yeah. And my whole thing is,

I train people basically to recognize the potentiality for violence. And when you do, you can get yourself out of there. So you don't have to act. That's my whole thing. Worst case scenario, yes. Violence is the answer type thing. So boom. So they were going to show me, hey, Tim, I recognized A, B, and C. I got myself out of there type thing. That's all it was. Everybody reports it legit except the mirror. The mirror is kind of like a- Yeah, the rag. It's a rag. It's the sun or whatever. Or the New York- Yeah, on page six of it. Page six. Big.

same page big uh a big big headline larkin to lead riot tour and they said i was gonna go around rabble rousing they called me vigilante like i was gonna encourage vigilantes we all dismissed it my guys over there dismissed everything boom

MP from Slough sends it, right? Guess who her buddy was that sat next to? Steven Seagal. Theresa May. No, I'm sorry. Theresa May. Oh, who then was the prime minister. Well, at that time, she was the home secretary. Right. Boom, sends it to her. And she goes, we got to get rid of this guy. And issues an immediate travel ban on me right away because they know I'm coming over. But I'm not coming over until the following May, right? And so they issue this travel ban and they say it's supposed to happen, right?

I never hear anything. So I go, I'm going, this is the year I won. I was inducted to black belt hall of fame. I was going to speak in Birmingham at a huge martial arts, European martial arts conference. Me and Randy couture were the two, uh, keynote speakers at that time. Huge thing that they're bringing me over for. Right. I go, I show up at the virgin counter at, uh, McCarran at the old, at the old, old place before they had terminal three. Um,

And I show up and it's always the four o'clock flight to London is always like packed. And, you know, you got bodies coming in. So I hand over my docs to the, to the Virgin, um, attendant. And I noticed she's starting to stall, you know, like, and usually it's a quick boom, boom, boom. You got, now she's stalling. And then I hear this Mr. Larkin.

And I turn around, and this guy, all he needed was the bowler hat and the umbrella. He had the three-piece suit. He was your total British admin guy. And he's from the Border Defense Agency, which is their Homeland Security agency.

And he said, I'm presenting you this letter from the home secretary. He goes, you are banned from traveling to the UK. He goes, you will not be boarding this flight. And he hands me the letter, right? And I'm like, shit, you know? Tell me you have that framed. Oh, yeah, I do. It was like the party of the Red Sea.

all of a sudden i go from body zombie to everybody like okay who's this irish terrorist you know yeah i was gonna say it's because of larkin they're still mad about belfast oh my uh my my uh my irish uh relatives are just loving it they think it's great that i'm banned um they're like that fucking brits anyway so i go we go to fight it right and uh here here's what here's how how bad it was um

You have 90 days. It says the letter. Now, the letter's dated December. Okay? And this is May. And they're saying that, no, you had 90 days from December to contest. And we're like, wait a minute. If you guys were so sure that...

that you had informed me. Why did you fly somebody 6,000 miles to Vegas to personally give this letter? They didn't handle that. But the UK is such that it's not like if it was here in the US, we could have done something. But their rules are very vague. And the best part of the thing is it says at the very end, it says, this will be reviewed every three to five years.

what do you mean three to five you're doing three to five yeah okay yeah no idea it's still like that right now people don't realize certain laws there like they don't change

America, for all its warts, does a lot of things right when it comes to certain things. Canada has laws, hate crime laws specifically, and not just the Bill C-31 you heard about and all this stuff, but there's some of these laws that are very top-down because they're parliamentary and it's different. It's similar but different. People don't realize it. There's certain things where, like the COVID things, they had just different police powers.

I think that's where a lot of Americans become ignorant, right? Like the whole Brittany Griner, like why are you going into somewhere with marijuana, right? I think we think everything's whatever, it's another country or it's the same, right? And it's just not. They can screw with you as much as you want.

Well, she's probably had... That's an interesting situation because she'd probably gone over there a bunch of times with it. But here's the thing. How many people are sitting in American cages for the exact same crime that nobody gives a shit? That's one of my favorite memes. People going, that guy who's all mad. Why do you care about somebody in Russia who went to Russia and did that? You know, you got people sitting in cages here. No, I get it. So...

So Tim, so are you still training people? Is that, I mean, wait, so, but you've partly, they're still, still doing trainings. Yeah. For, is it more individuals? Are you still doing? It's mostly, so I would say 20% of the biz is professionals, you know, military law enforcement and they're fun to do. They're great. A lot of them don't have the time or budget anymore though. Do you ever do MVP? The,

vets and players at Couture's gym. You just mentioned Randy. Oh, no. So at Couture, I do jujitsu with the MVP guys on Tuesdays and Thursdays. It's called merging vets and players. It's where you take people with UFC guys and they bring a lot of military. So it's a free class at eight in the morning on Tuesdays and Thursdays. And there's a lot of military vets that don't have a lot of money. Right.

So they train for free. They don't have to pay the gym fees. That's cool. And Randy and Ryan Couture let them. If you know anybody out there in Vegas that is a vet that doesn't have a lot of money and wants to train MMA, whatever. It's getting people into jujitsu, right? It just so happens that everybody that comes is an MVP person because the MVP program has other times as well. I like that. It's really amazing. That's really cool. We've done a lot of...

uh, training of vets and like, you know, my other business, of course, I have all vets that, that do it for the machine gun range and stuff. Um,

It's great that guys are doing that. It's so important that they do, especially the guys that are injured. I know a lot of guys that are disabled, and they're still able to get out there and do athletic stuff, which is awesome. Some guys I train with, they wear shoes. This one guy, Tim, he's great. He's a CO. He does the training for the COs up in High Desert. He has to wear boots because his feet are just destroyed. Another guy has 100% fusion. Wow.

And his spine. All these guys, some of them have taken IEDs. Some of them have taken, you know, they'll be telling me after class, like, oh, yeah, this one time I had a flashback in the grocery store. They're going through all these things, right, because they've been hit by IEDs and they've had, they've all served. They've all been overseas. Some of them multiple times.

And they're all, they're training jujitsu. And it's really cool because these guys who have every excuse not to be there. Right there. Right there. They're, you know, having my heavy ass laying on them. I'm trying to break their spine again. Why did I immediately feel sorry for your wife? Just as soon as you said that. That was the only reason. Plenty of reasons. That's a good point. That's a good point.

So Tim, if people want to find you, they want to work with you, how do they find you? Probably the easiest way to go is just go to timlarkin.com. timlarkin.com. Yeah, I got a lot of free information. Because here in Texas, you get some cool stuff, not just the general training. Because we're talking about the John Wick thing.

Are you still doing that? Yeah. Well, we got, I, so I have a lot of guys that are former like a team six guys and, and, and groups like that. And we take people out and we train them. We have machine guns Vegas, but then we also have a tactical ranch. Yeah. And so that's where we do a lot of the, a lot of the training. And so it's all, all great spec ops guys. And what I want to make clear to everybody is, you know, sometimes people think, oh, well I can't, I'm not good enough to train with special operations guys. These guys are the best. Meaning they will take a beginner and just,

just take you right through the great training. You don't waste any time. I feel like we need to go do this. I think we are. I feel like we absolutely need to. The other thing that's cool, too, is if you're doing something like, if you're going to be caring for CCW, you want to have somebody that's been in situations time and time and time again. And they're very aware of the self-defense rules and all that, but they also understand what it takes to do that. And they're the first guys to teach you to walk away. And that's just invaluable. Did you hear that Jocko Willink quote?

Which one? You talk about seals. You talk about a really famous seal guy who's a jiu-jitsu stud and whatever. He goes, he's talking about self-defense. People are talking about, I want a box for self-defense. He's like, why do you need the box for self-defense? If no one's grabbing you, just leave. He's like, the only self-defense you need to know is jiu-jitsu because you now have your hands on me and you're preventing me from going somewhere.

And that's kind of an interesting thing where a guy like that is total stud. Rip your arms out. He's going, you want to dance and box with me? I'm just going to leave. I'm not fighting you. This isn't a military operation, right? I'm not going to get in a bar fight with you just because your hands are up and you square off. I'm just going to leave.

Safely until you have your hands on me. I'm hoping to get him on. That's the other thing, John. If people want to check on my YouTube channel too, I've got some really unique people. I've got guys like I just interviewed a former head of the Aryan Brotherhood who just got out. Totally reformed his life, but he gives very realistic information about what it's like to be in such a petri dish of violence and how they operate. There's a lot of good lessons there.

Another guy from the Mexican Mafia, he was taken by a YPO in L.A. to talk to them about how do you build a community

An organization? It's vertically integrated. These leaders are locked up 23 hours out of the day, yet they run tens of thousands of people. It's just crazy when you're thinking how they do it. And YPO was just like, hey, you want to know how to run your organization? The guy who can run it from the clink. It ended up getting the sheriff's department so much trouble. Screw Tim Ferriss with his four-hour work week. His dude's doing half an hour a day. That's it.

He's got half an hour to pull it all off, buddy. That's it. That's good stuff. All right. Well, Tim. Yep. Check out Tim Tharkin dot com. Thanks. As we're going to end the show as we started doing it now, as we've as which can become a ritual on the show. Yeah. Which is which tell me will be in doctor. You'll be into this now, which

which is, oh, I didn't mean to do that, which is five, I didn't mean to do that. Can't laugh. Five minutes into Colts, five questions into Colts mind. I forgot about this. Five questions into the mind of Colts. You ready, Tim? Here we go. Into the mind of Colt. You ready, Colt? I'm not ready. Here we go. You ready? Question one. What's the biggest lie you once to believe was true?

That could be an equestrian. That's fair. I'll take that. All right, question two. Do you know why your sister ruined it for me? I've never had my dreams crushed as your sister thrown out. So his John Meester calls in pretending to be Bruce Springsteen's daughter who's a gold medalist equestrian rider and just takes a strip off of him. Absolutely barbecued him. At the end of it, he's like, oh my God, I'm so wrong. And start laughing. It's like, ah, this has been...

All right. Question two. What is the main thing that influences your decisions? That influences my decision. Yes.

We'll piss people off. Yes. But I don't mean that like, oh, I'm afraid to piss people off. It's like, is this going to piss people off? Sure. I might do it even more. I'm in. And will that beat you for my wife? Is my wife going to leave me? Okay. All right. Well, this piss people off. My wife's probably related to that Mexican mafia guy. Yeah. No, she probably really is. All right.

If you had to lose one of your five senses, which would you give up? Oh, smell for sure. But that's also taste. And why? Why would you give up smell, man? You ever hold your breath when you walk by people just based off of what they look like? Colt, I've been to 47 countries. Not all of them. That's prejudging people. Oh, I judge the shit out of you. If you see me go like this. Well.

When I walk by you, you look like you stink. That's great. What else would you want? Hearing would suck to lose. Eyesight would be the worst. But taste would be probably a healthier thing to lose. No, I like food. Yeah, but I'm saying, if you did. Well, it'd be healthier. Yeah, because you eat just nothing but. Smell, man. Smells good. Broccoli. People. Last question. Name something on your to-do list that never gets old. Oh, my God.

On my to-do list? I'm sorry. Name something on your to-do list that never gets done. Not old, sorry. Never gets done. Oh, okay.

Cold calling. Yeah, I gave up on that. Cold calling. It's always on the to-do list when he gets it done. You know what's so funny? It was in my calendar up until probably a year ago. It's been 20 years, guys. It's not going to happen. Every day a cold call pops up. I got an hour to do shit. Let's go. It's like Facebook allows you to do this thing when you have a time limit on it.

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I have I

all the time that I'm going to be stuck on a mountain with somebody I don't like and get a hunt in. And now I'm kind of wanting it not to have no weapons. I just want to be able to track them down.

rub some deer piss on me so they don't smell me and jump out and bare hands. You know deer piss isn't good for humans, right? I don't know. I saw it on a movie. A person would smell the deer piss. Wait, is there deer around? They'd stall just enough for me to get my hands on them, Tim. Let's do it. You're the secret yellow belt that was stabbing guys in the leg. That's it.

No, but dude, I do want to go do the tactical thing. I think I'm going to go. I love it. I love it. All right, cool. We'll check it out again. Tim Larkin dot com. If you want to, for some reason, follow Colt Colt, how do they find you? Colt underscore underscore Amadine Colt underscore Amadine and the counselor. How can they find you for all of their legal needs? Connell Law on Facebook, Connell Law LV Instagram. And my number is 702 Connell. So you should be able to remember that pretty easily. Yeah. 702 Connell.

Unless you don't know if it's spelled with two N's, two L's. There's seven letters. I'm sure you'll figure it out.

I didn't think of that. That's like a wordle, though. Do you really want to give people a wordle for your legal phone number? You know what? The way I always tell people. Here's what's easy for me. Every single billboard in this city is owned by a company called Connell, and they don't own 702 Connell. I do. So I constantly. Strong move. So there'll be lawyers advertising. Meanwhile, it's my name on there that they're going to maybe remember. 702 Connell. It's a strong move. Well, thanks for coming in, guys. And remember, if you're going to move, man, move forward. See you next week. Awesome.

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