SUPERFLY #18 - (Un)identified Technology and Beings w/ Dr. Steven Greer
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

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Ready. Here we go, Dana. We're on. Look at me not looking. I look all right. It's all we care about. It's all that matters. We look at ourselves so much when you do podcasts and I just stare at myself and then I cry myself gently to sleep at night. Yeah, I think that's the regular. I take a sip of Z-Quil.

I never take the whole thing. You know how they have a cap on top of NyQuil? Oh, I hate NyQuil. I only take what I'm incredibly sick because you're so messed up the next day with NyQuil. Well, the trick is, I'm going to tell our crowd, you don't take the whole goddamn cap. That's for like a 900-pound person. You have to take, I take a half a teaspoon like this.

Excuse me. What about the capsules? You just take one capsule. Excuse me. Excuse me. Let me just interject this. Excuse me. Excuse me. Oh, that's Trump comes up to lay with our guests. He comes up late in the. Oh, yeah. Oh, we should tell him when we have a guest today. And it's not one of your typical jokester clowns. We're walking outside. We're working outside the lines a little bit today. We actually have a scientist and an actual doctor.

very interesting dude he's a uh well i i got into him because i saw an old um documentary called unacknowledged and it was about ufos and the state of ufos and are they real have we seen them and it really kind of blew me away and then i followed this dude on instagram so we hit him up and he's like yeah i'll roll on so he bopped on and we had a really interesting chat and it went in different directions i did not see coming and i'm still trying to like

compute all of it. I just want to, I think this would be useful just because it's almost like reading the synopsis of a movie that he has two lanes. One is that there's been an energy system that,

that's been around for a hundred years that because of different special interests or conspiracies or fossil fuel companies, it's been suppressed, but it would solve all of our energy issues on earth with no pollution. That's a world. He lives in one leg one. And the second lane is that most of the UFO UFO stuff we see is done by government agencies and or corporations as kind of a fake out a loss leader. Look over here. They're,

So thirdly, there are actual aliens visiting us. They come in peace.

And finally, he'll talk about how we communicate them is with consciousness, i.e. meditation or spiritual awakening. That's the only way, because that's the way they communicate. And so they visit us. They're watching us. They're worried about us. I asked if they knew how the universe got created. And I'm going to let you... No spoilers. Yeah, we spoiled too much already. No spoilers. And he... They say they're shot down in peace. Yeah.

And I came to it with an open mind and an open heart. Just like, tell me, tell me, tell me what you think. All based on documentation. That's why it's interesting. He has everything to back it up. Okay. Now let's get into the, that's in a minute, but we have to do our clown show for a minute. Clown show. We're supposed to do thumbnails. Yeah, show us. We talk about UFOs.

You always do the fish thing. I know, because I want it to be as weird as possible. So the freeze frame. Have you seen the freeze frames on YouTube, Dana? They're crazy. That was a good one. Well, that's Garth. He talks about aliens. Yeah, Garth liked it.

Okay, so give me some headlines and we'll talk about them and we'll get to Dr. Stephen Greer. What do we got? Throw something up and I'll just go. I just go. Yeah, I haven't seen any of this. It's like a magic trick. I barely know David Spade. We were both on the cover of Rolling Stone, Dana, and I saw yours.

And this is a big deal. This is back when Rolling Stone was really, really a big deal, especially when Dana's was on. It was just before. This is a great, cool picture. Bill Zemi. I have a couple thoughts about this. Yeah, go ahead. You can chime in if you want. Yeah.

Well, one was that the first day I showed up, the photographer, we, I met him in a laundromat. He wanted me to have no clothes on and hold a laundry basket in front of me. Oh, that was, oh, this is a good idea. So what did the photographer wanted? Okay. That's what he wanted. I mean, he's a great guy. He's a brilliant photographer. We could look up his name. Um, but then he also wanted to put me in a tutu or like a ballerina dress. Yeah.

So I said, look, I'm only on the cover of Rolling Stone probably once. Well, twice. Whoops. Once for Wayne's World. And so we went with this and then he goes, well, OK, you know, the old swallow the goldfish. So I spent hours with real goldfish. But as it sits there, does it look it looks like it could be a fake. Right. But it's an actual live. That looks I thought that was fake, but I did like this photo. I think it looks cool. I think you look cool.

I think it's fine, but there's one more final thing, David. Yeah, keep talking. Look at it and let me see if you can tell what it is. You have something on your coat, flower. No, he decided to take my eyes and make them sort of brown hazel. I ran into him later. I go, well, I have blue eyes, pale blue eyes. I mean, they're stunning. Oh, my God. And he goes, I just felt like doing that.

That's totally against the law. I know. Why would it do that? You know what's interesting? You look around. Marissa Tomei, this is that era. What year is this, do you think? This is 93. Oh, shit. That's right. Mid-SNL for me. Okay.

And I wouldn't have done it again. I didn't like the headline. I didn't like Dana Carvey quits. Yeah, they have to. You know, and I wouldn't have done it again. I just didn't. It felt weird when I saw it. I felt the same way about mine because you'll see it. By the way, it says hot list. I have the hot list on mine. I think it is. Yours is...

They wanted me to wear those pants too. Is that photoshopped or you have... This is what everyone turned down. No, it's the same thing. Mark Seliger, great, well-known photographer. Mark Seliger was the guy and he's great and he did what I want him to do, but that's what happened. If he listened. He listened. He's an artist. When you're up against an artiste photographer who's a big deal, and I was not a big deal, I somehow... This is during...

Just shoot me. Yeah. So I left us now. Got to just shoot me. Just shoot me. He's doing well. So shock of my life. They get me on a Rolling Stone once me. I meet Jan Wenner. Now look at TV forecast, hot and horny. Is that me? I guess I got it. That's what I was on the show. See, I like this. This is Mark Salinger. And I think that what he,

You know, he wants it to be outrageous or different or interesting. You've only worn those pants once we've gone out to dinner. You know, the problem is I wear them once here. I can probably wear them once to Koi. And then I got to get rid of them because everyone's seen them. I've never seen you make that face, though. That's an interesting face. Well, this is 200 rolls of film where I finally left. So the trivia is.

Manon is on the left with the big blue eyes. She's stunningly gorgeous. Tatiana Von Patz, I think is on the right. She was sick, the one crouching down. She was sick. So after we did, you know, you don't know which ones to cover. We're doing different setups. I said, why don't you let her go home? Because she's gorgeous and was a sweetheart, but she just didn't feel well. So we just kept with Manon, who has the coverage. I'm grabbing her boob, I guess. But this was...

Oh, see the feet. These are our pants and they have, I'm like a centaur. You know what that is? I don't know why. I don't know. Is that a horny thing? I don't know. It's kind of like a horse, half horse, half man. I don't know the symbolism, but it looks cool. The log looks cool. Grab her boob. We do everything. And we're taking so many rolls. I say, he keeps going, all right, well, one more roll. Flashes bother my eyes. My eyes aren't great. So too many flashes for hours, right?

And I'm sitting analog, neck's killing me, of course. I'm completely falling apart as pre-trial. And then I say, you keep saying one more roll. Quit fucking saying that. It's going to be, it's over after one more roll. But that's just something they say. They say, last one. Yep, and he lost one. And I got the fuck up and left. He goes, we're not done. I go, yep. And I left. The balls of spade. Because, you know, you push a little dog too long, one day he bites you.

Well, look, I mean, you know, we don't want to come off like spoiled brats. I mean, it is an honor to be on the cover. Of course, that was the hugest deal. It, you know, I don't know when it became not as big a deal, but you know, I, it's like everything else. It's just when they went online and then when they, it got, it got too political. But yeah, I thought that was, that was such a big deal for me. That was probably 2000. That was right around the year 2000.

And that's one of the highlights of my whole career. Well, no, that is very cool. And we're both on it. I love it. You're on come off SNL and then you get this hit show and now you're rolling. So, I mean, that's pretty cool. Yeah. I saw I swear some interviewer tried to fuck me. He goes, so when do you think you were the most famous? That's not such a backhanded bullshit question.

You know, fame is such a fleeting thing. You know my Lauren quote always, the minute you're hot, you feel yourself becoming less hot. You go up in a rocket, the rocket comes down. You know, fame is just, I don't know, that's a... But the answer, what he was looking for was...

different points of time like oh you had a rolling stone cover oh you had this but the truth is it's present day when you're the most famous because that's when the accumulation of everything like everyone's seen your movies on tbs on hbo in the theater so reruns reruns so commercials

More people know me now than they did then. So that's the real answer. Oh, well, definitely. I mean, your Instagram is huge, but you're right. At a certain point, for me personally, when I would see older performers, actors, comedians, whatever, I mean, I was at the AFI tribute, Kirk Douglas, because I did a movie with Kirk Douglas, and I spoke and stuff. So behind me is Jimmy Stewart.

you know, and then some of the tables and Jimmy Stewart's like 82. It's Jimmy's fucking stew icon. And they said, they said, uh, they said he's not working much.

I don't, can anybody win the fucking game of show business? We're saying that the legend of all time, Hitchcock movies, Westerns. It's a wonderful life. Jimmy fucking Stewart. Yeah, he's not doing too much. So I walked, I said, I got to meet Jimmy Stewart. So I walked toward him and I'm walking toward Jimmy Stewart. He looks up, I get to him and I go, Mr. Stewart. And he just put his hand on my hand and he goes, I know I,

I know. I know. I know what you're going to say because I've heard it a hundred times. No, he didn't. He didn't say that. He just said, I know. But that's what he meant. Yeah. He knew what I was saying. Because everyone does it to him. Everyone falls all over themselves. The point is, is that the main thing about show business, it's a bitterness factor. You always feel gratitude. Yeah.

You know, you never feel like it's not personal and you're in it. And I try to honor people who maybe sell me to do chopped broccoli in 1986 and are hyperbolic around me. I'm like, okay, there's levels of fans. People go, do you have fans? Here's the level. You know, the fans are like, Hey, my friend said you're famous. Can we get a picture? That's a small fan or absolutely not. Absolutely nothing. Not a fan. And then you get people that are sweaty, shaky, and can't believe it. So when you say, Oh, these people are all fans of mine.

It's a huge level from one to a hundred of what your fan, they kind of like you, they seen you and stuff fine, or they really like you or they're like crazed. So when you meet people, you get all different levels and some don't care really at all. I'll do a kind of a Jerry Seinfeld thing is Jerry. Jerry is so into comedians, you know, and comedy and standup specifically, but

And Lorne Michaels is very into it. So when people make me laugh, first time I saw Martin Short doing Robin Williams on SCTV, then I called myself a fan. Anyone who makes you laugh really hard, even if it's in one movie or one sketch, it's such a rare tribe we're in and it's such an honor. But yeah, we're funny people. And so funny is...

They, the cliche, they say funny is money. Yeah. Funny is. Well, we're not, we're not doing pat on the back productions right now, but we do. It is. We're saying that just questions about that. I, we're just in that universe. It doesn't mean there's not 3000 people more funnier than we are. The way I learned it, Dana, the, the, when I was like, Oh my God, all these people know me. Like when I, this was barely, barely microscopically somewhat fame.

And then I overheard someone go, oh my God, there's David Spade. And I go, yes. And when he walks past, he goes, I hate that guy. And I was like, oh, so it doesn't mean everyone likes you. It just means they know they've seen you on something. Now they have to say something nice.

do they like you who knows okay keep going now what next what we're gonna bore the people with next that was interesting i like that i like your rolling stone cover that was cool yeah yeah okay but well you know what fans write in which one you like better i would say i think david davis is more interesting oh i gave you this dana i just thought it was funny that this is a shark that i would be i'm scared of the ocean anyway

This looks like HR Puff and stuff, but... Oh, yeah. That's not a character on Sesame Street. I mean, where's Jim Henson? I'm Mr. Wobbegong Shark. Don't come down to the Titanic in a submarine. I'll eat you. First come bite, then come leg. Yummy, yum. I turn him into Yoda. It's kind of a Yoda. He looks like he's made out of carpet.

I don't believe it. This might be fake, but it was on the internet. There's some alien bugs at the bottom of that. Oh.

The ones that are way down there. The alien stuff, I was thinking about evolution and stuff, and people are like, yeah, it's evolution. And I go, yeah, a microbe became a little tadpole, became a frog, became an alligator, crawled up, became a dinosaur. So basically, the whole planet Earth, they know at one point, was just rock. There was nothing but rock, molten rock.

No water, even just a rock. The water came in and supposedly, but here's my idea of evolution. Put a rock on a kitchen table. Okay. There at it for 4 billion years. And you get Richard Nixon. Why Richard Nixon? Just, just, uh, you went just Richard Nixon's there, you know, after 4 billion years from a rock. Yeah. Evil. Yeah. And a wait, wait, wait. And then there's people. And there's Richard Nixon.

I'm alive. What are you looking at? I'm not a rock. Turn me. All right. So what's our next picture? Okay, go ahead. What's next? Is this me again? Let me see. Did I give you this? Let me see it. No, this was something. Oh, you? Okay, let me see it. This is a little girl getting mad about how expensive ice cream is.

I do like this girl. A little girl gets a taste of inflation and she did not like it. You are about to see the rant of Marty from the UK. She was ticked off by the business practices of the local ice cream vendor.

Chick is hilarious. No he ain't. No he ain't. God damn she's worked up.

That's me after I eat its catch steak. I like how we show the whole fucking newscast. It's nine quid for the ice cream. They want it and they're not gonna get it. This motherfucker just said for two Otter Pops, we get five.

for nine quid. Isn't it? I just don't know where a kid gets that personality at that age. They should have shot a cut over to her mother. That's right. They want nine quid for two ice cream pots. And then, you know, not going to get it. I know. Mike Hockney goes a lot. I go to Michael Caine every time. Michael Caine. I can't help it. Every time I do a Hockney accent, I go to bloody Michael Caine. Nine quid.

For two ice cream cones. You can't be too naso with my cocaine. It's so naso that that's the way you get him if you want to try to do my cocaine. Nine quid for two cones.

nine quid we have our next bet nine quid do we have 10 quid that chick was fucking worked up and her little friend was like all right that's enough you know adderall for you today uh but i did like her spirit and spunk she really got into it she's defined when i was that age i couldn't care less how much shit cost i just say mom give me more money i can't it's nine quid now i can't

You gave me five quids. I remember at Jiffy, well, it was like, no, it was 25 cents a gallon for gasoline. I remember that. Oh, boy. Don't tell people that. I remember 50 cent for a five-hour matinee from 12 to 5. I remember. Duwadi Murphy Westerns. Okay, next one. NBC is using animals to push. Oh, no, this part. Volume.

Oh, there's a new documentary called Queer Planet. So let's see what they say. Gay penguins, bisexual lions, sex changing clownfish. This is a queer planet. You're a clownfish. It's only in humans that we have such a stigma about it. The idea of just having two fixed sexes is clearly out of style. So that's a new documentary about... I'm looking at myself again. Gay clownfish, which is what...

That's your stage name. There was a kind of a grunge band called Clownfish, I think. There was? Yeah, I think so. If there isn't, there is now. Maybe they did the music. Run with it, kids. Run with it. All those elephants looked like they were doing this touching their noses, which I heard one of them go, hey, no homo. But you know, when you're just touching your noses, it doesn't mean anything. They're just goofing around probably. But I don't know.

I don't spend a lot of time thinking about are there gay monkeys or gay animals? I don't really, you know, gay is boring and that's the way where gay should be is just like, who cares? Who cares what you're saying? They shouldn't even make a show like that because it's like, don't make it like it's different. Just say, hey, some are gay, some aren't. Move on. Right. I mean, yeah.

The trans thing is just sort of the newest thing that people have to accept. And, you know, as far as genetic engineering, there will be beastie stuff, you know. I'm sorry, sir. People will genetically marry animals or become part pig, part human.

And there'll be some kids that are cats. I'm just part pig. Why do you hate me? Are you prejudiced against me? I'm part pig, part man. Is Peppa Pig single? Because she could marry someone, someone famous. You know who Peppa Pig is? You've said it. It's like a little cartoon or something. Oh, yeah. Peppa Pig. All right. Next one. That's what she probably sounds like. Let's go down to the beach.

I'm a pig. Oh, back. I'm Waddle Shart. I'm Waddle Gong. I saw this in the paper yesterday. COVID's trying to drum up some biz. Jeez, it's scary. It's like an old show business entertainer who's playing out at the I-80. At the Pancake House, here is Sonny Flopmo with his hit song, COVID. COVID.

Yeah, there, you know, I did see an interview with Anthony Fauci and you go, you never know when there might be sub variants. We got one coming in from Hawaii called the Pineapple Express variant coming in from Russia called Stoli on the rocks.

We got one from Massachusetts called Big Beans. I'm Tony Fauci. And from the bottom of my all new leather pouches, go fuck yourself. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't have the scare tactics it used to. When they hear all this stuff lately, you go, please don't start with this again. I get it. People might get a cold. Might have COVID. But I don't think everyone's going to run for Z Hills anymore. No, it's like some virologist.

I told you that we would get a certain immunity between the vaccine, between herd immunity. And then the trajectory of most viruses is weak, weak, weak, weak, weaker. And that seems to be happening unless you're compromised. I might get letters if you're compromised health wise and you're in a certain age group, that's different. That has affected my act. It gets weak, weak, weak. My message to COVID is,

Is come and get me. You want some of this? You want some of this? Come and get me. Come through the nose. Come through my mouth. No, Dana, I told you I saw someone coughing on a plane. I'm like this. You don't actively cough and not care at all. Couldn't care less. And then I wake the person next to me and go, someone's coughing.

So they didn't even put their hand over their mouth? No, and then they sneeze. They cough about 20 times. Then they go, and I'm like, get the air marshal. Bring him back. Because this is what we need. This is a problem. Okay. Well, the worst thing is when someone releases a gas cloud on a plane. I'm sorry?

Well, you can't walk away. Yeah, you can't walk away. They shoot it about five inches into that cushion, that seat cushion. Like this.

one time we don't normally work scatological but that's just no this is a horrible story i was on a plane doing opening of something like a planet hollywood and i was in the way back and my buddy kevin was back there and i had to rip one which i never do this right last time i did and i ripped a gasser an spd and then i got up and walked quickly to the front of the plane i go i wonder how much longer and by the time i got to the front

Everyone turned around to the back and went, what the fuck? I go, Kevin Gross. And he goes, what? And everyone goes, Gross. Because I beat it. I beat the crop dusting. And then I stopped and turned around and went,

It feels like your airplane stories are like you're at a restaurant and you're talking to the patrons. You're interacting with them. I get into it. Everyone on the plane knows you're on it. That's right. That's how it works. I try to put my hat down. I'll be flying tomorrow, actually. Oh, yeah, me too. Okay, so let's move it on. We're going to introduce him. And then we definitely want to hear in the YouTube comments.

and online whatever you answer him tell me tell us what you thought and what you thought was interesting about this because i was sort of on the edge of my seat the whole time yeah it's okay to be a skeptic and ask questions but i do think that uh he comes across very likable and and and very sincere about all the stuff that is going on around our little blue planet so i'm happy to enjoy it

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We're so happy today that our guest is a, well, his name is Dr. Stephen Greer, and he is one of the world's foremost authorities on the subject of UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence and technologies. And I love this, initiating peaceful contact with interstellar civilizations. He's traveled the globe for 35 years. Please welcome Dr. Stephen Greer. By the way, since we're around the same age, you can Google it.

did did you see uh 2001 a space odyssey like when you're about you know in junior high or whatever do you remember seeing that movie right yeah yep well i did see it and interestingly i'm friends with uh stanley kubrick's daughter vivian kubrick you are oh my god yeah yeah we're friends he's yeah dana's jealous already well didn't it just blow your mind i mean and now you've

How did you become friends with her? She contacted me. Yeah, because she's very interested in the subject matter. Her father was, obviously.

who did that movie and some other related material. That movie, the moon landing? Yeah. No, no, he didn't do that. That's the rumor. We've talked about that. Now, by the way, my interest in this goes back to when I was a kid because my mom's brother, my uncle, worked for Northrop Grumman and actually worked on the lunar lander, the machine, the module that landed on the moon with Neil Armstrong. That was his project with Northrop Grumman. It

It was Grumman, became Northrop Grumman, huge aerospace company. So interestingly, I have this sort of lineage in my family of being involved with putting the first man on the moon. But I was a little kid, of course. When we landed in 1969, I was 14.

And ironically, I was up at a little college up in the mountains of North Carolina called Mars Hill. And I was there as a student body president with all these other kids watching this thing happen. It was phenomenal as a young kid. Unbelievable. Because my uncle had worked on that machine. Yeah, you have a lot of connection to this world. David, did you have a question?

Yes, I was just going to tell the doctor, I got into it a little bit reading The Interrupted Journey when I was like a kid, you know, but I think it was Barney and Betty Hill being abducted was the story and got into that. I think there's one called Incident at Exeter. It was just all these things that were sort of interesting to me as a kid. And then I came across Dr. Greer, maybe, oh, unacknowledged.

Right. A great documentary he did. And I think you started it by saying a lot of people say there's not enough evidence to show there's UFOs. I say there's too much evidence. And I was like, okay, I'm listening. And I really got into that one. I've been following on Instagram. And so we thought our people, it's a little different audience for you, possibly, maybe we don't know, but it's a wider net to get to, and you do a lot of good work and

We are all interested in sort of the basic sort of questions. And also you're so advanced in this.

that you've got a lot to say about every possible aspect of this, but we're like fifth graders. That's right. No problem. I mean, when I do a briefing for a member of Congress, they're first graders. That's even worse. And you're being generous. So you could give us, I'd say give us a little briefing just because whatever we ask, you've heard a million times, but we can get into questions later, but maybe just tell us a few things to start for the basic people.

Well, first of all, I'm an emergency and trauma doctor, medical doctor, and got involved with this because of an interest since I was very young. And by the time I was a young doctor, I was being asked to come up to Washington to brief the director of the CIA for Mr. Clinton, for President Clinton. And because I had put together a portfolio of evidence and

And at that time, about a dozen whistleblowers who had been on the inside of these covert programs being run illegally. So my coming of age of this was in December of 1993, before a lot of your listeners were born probably. And what had happened is that I got a FedEx saying, you're going to be the first person to brief the director of the CIA and the president on this issue.

And I thought this was absolutely a lie. There's no way. So I go up there as a public service because I go, OK, well, if I'm called up here to do this, I'm going to do it. And it turns out that they had been not only denied access, but the president had been threatened.

and had been told point blank, don't look into this, it's none of your business. That's when I knew that whether there was smoke, there was fire. And so I started digging into this really deeply and doubling down and started what eventually got known as the Disclosure Project, which was putting together

Right now we have 760 whistleblowers in my group and putting together the documents, the evidence of this, and untangling the web of lies. For example, you mentioned Betty and Barney Hill. That was a staged man-made abduction. It had nothing to do with extraterrestrials.

Very few people know this. And to unpack that, you've got to know the history of the technology development from the early 20th century to now that has been highly classified dealing with energy generation and propulsion. And I found out that the reason this was so damn secret, and there were so many mythologies and no offense, the bullshit associated with the subject,

Excuse my language. No, that's fucking fine. In reality. Yeah, more of that. Yeah, well, this is, you know, emergency doctors aren't exactly, you know, they're for us, you know. All right, here comes the chest tube. Bang. Anyway, but so what happened?

So what happened is I thought, well, wait, this is an unconstitutional operation, right? Now, I eventually got my uncle retired from Northrop Grumman. He was very supportive of what I was trying to do. And I developed this network of people who had been on the inside of these covert programs. And I realized the reason it's secret is that if this was disclosed properly without all the nonsense and overlay of mythology,

We would get off of oil, gas, coal, nuclear power, public utilities, all of it would be obsolete because we already have that solution. So this is a massive science and technology story. Probably the least significant part of it is that there are extraterrestrial civilizations observing us, right? That's the most boring part. Yeah, that's the most banal aspect of it.

The real story is a very human story of corruption and money and power. But, you know, when I realized, look, we're running the planet into the ground, right?

And we have 3 billion people on the planet that can't even afford fuel to cook their food. They're literally scavenging brushes and cutting down rainforests. 3 billion, 3,000 million people. This is a huge problem. And of course, this whole subject has been the domain of the National Enquirer and the tabloids and all that rubbishing of the subject. Yeah.

But in reality, the reason it's been rubbish deliberately through psychological warfare operations from the intelligence community is because it's so damn important. And so eventually this overtook my medical career. And I focused in a very laser-like way on this problem for the last...

couple of decades. I was just curious. I think it's called zero point energy and it's been around a hundred years. Right. And how does that integrate with extraterrestrial extraterrestrials? I had a couple of pops for it. Is that something we found from a UAP spaceship or something? Well, it's a very good question. Great question. Okay. Let's look, look at this as

uh if you go back and we have a movie there's a link we can give you guys okay i watched it lost century yes okay which is a follow-on unacknowledged but basically if you go back to the late 1800s early 1900s or big breakthroughs in electromagnetic theory and physics and by the 1920s

T Townsend Brown and the B. Phil Brown effect had been documented where you could create a very high voltage system at certain frequencies, cycles per second, and things would levitate, float, anti-gravity. Now, that was on small objects.

But it was a big breakthrough that got subsumed and taken in to covert programs in the U.S. government. Now, Nikola Tesla had discovered that there was this energy field. He called it the infinite energy field. And it was a field of energy that had not been quantified.

but later was as the zero point energy field, or some people would call it the quantum vacuum. I would. For the layperson, let's get this simple. Basically, if you have a coffee mug in your house, look at the volume of space inside that coffee mug. There's enough latent potential energy in there to boil off all the oceans of the earth.

that it's almost an infinite amount of energy. So when you create a circuitry that taps into that,

You could basically have something that looks like your heat pump that would run your house with no utility bills. Or you could have something instead of a fake Tesla car, as I say about Elon Musk's Tesla, you'd have a real Tesla car that would never have to be plugged into the fossil fuel power grid, right? Because those are lithium ion batteries being charged off a power grid that's 80 plus percent fossil fuels. So these technologies are,

are the ultimate disruptive technologies but they're the they're a planet saver and they wonder everyone's getting killed correct this is why there have been a number of people my team killed and a number of people through history who have been killed god so that's it's a very heavy lift in terms of understanding this now that breakthrough those breakthroughs

were brought together in classified programs in the 40s and 50s after we were able to develop electromagnetic, what are called directional energy weapons, to target and down extraterrestrial vehicles, which we then reverse engineered and studied at my uncle's company, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Skunk Works, et cetera, Raytheon. And those technologies combined with these early sort of incipient

breakthroughs in electromagnetic theory and energy and propulsion and we went boom. So by 1954, important date, October 1954, I have someone who is the top scientist at the Naval Research Labs in the vault and saw a document that that's when we mastered gravity control where you would be able to make things fly silently, maybe a little bit of a hum sound like a transformer against the laws of

normal aerodynamics because you're creating a bubble in space-time where these objects move with no gravitational resistance. And they're using a type of electromagnetic field propulsion that creates what pop culture would call anti-gravity. So you have both free energy and anti-gravity, two separate things.

But you could take the one, for example, and just run the planet without any fossil fuel or nuclear or solar or wind. The other is a little more problematic because if you put things out there that could go from Tehran to here in three seconds over to Washington, D.C., you know, then you've got a missile delivery system. So there are aspects of this that are of national security significance. Other parts of it should be immediately declassified.

And that's what we're working to achieve. Eventually, all of it should come out. But we'd have to have a much more stable and peaceful world before we got, you know, every Tom, Dick and Harry had something that would fly at, you know, 300,000 miles per hour. Would you say that something most...

sightings of spacecraft are man-made right now at this point or is it a mix? I would say 70 to 80 percent of them. Now for example, everyone's seen the hearings on Capitol Hill where David Fravor, the F-18 Hornet pilot off the coast of California, they chased this UFO, the Tic Tac, and also another case off Norfolk here in Virginia.

Those were actually ours. Those were manmade. The Tic Tac is out of the Lockheed Skunk Works. If you go through our archive, we've just released the multiple terabyte intelligence archive a couple weeks ago.

that actually documents all this. We actually have reports of that same Tic Tac from 1967 being documented over the skies of Pennsylvania. So I think that one of the problems is that this whole issue

has to get clarified with some discernment because not everything that goes bump in the night we don't understand is an extraterrestrial being or vehicle. So much noise out there. There's so much noise. So to separate that, you need to have, I liken this to a doctor having a differential diagnosis where like if you have chest pain, you can't just assume it's a heart attack. It could be a pulmonary embolus. It could be a hundredth day.

So what's happened with this subject, everything that people don't understand, they just call it unidentified, which in reality is nonsense. They're identified. And there are basically two major categories of these. The man-made ones that no one is looking at because that's the bigger secret. And the vehicle, the man-made ones are a much bigger, much bigger secret. And it also the first I'm hearing. Was there a pilot on this? This is what?

On the Tic Tac one? No. There's no one driving the unmanned? They don't need it. Okay. Some are manned. Some are manned. Some aren't. You get some of those giant triangular craft that you see. Those are Northrop Grumman's and Raytheon's. And we have some of our top secret whistleblowers have worked at facilities where they have monitored or built those craft.

I have a member of my team who was at the Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah, and one of these massive triangular craft came up out of the ground through an opening and went out, boom. And that was a man-made, but it was manned with manned pilots. I also have a member of my team who actually managed

the pilots who flew those things out of the Edwards complex up in the desert of California, who's just come forward. We brought him to the Senate Intelligence Committee in February, and he has provided his information to the key people in Senate Armed Services and Senate Intelligence. Wow. Well, how many people in the world know about this? Not many. I mean, the fact of the matter is... Us three and who else? Yeah.

Well, I mean, the documentary Unacknowledged has had 780 million people see it. Whoa! Yeah, it went viral on all the black sites and the dark web and Pirate Bay and, you know, all that. That's riveting. But yeah, and I think one of the big issues becomes why aren't our policymakers aware of this? It's because they're too busy dealing with ordinary problems. And like, it's very hard to get

Like right now, I just came out of Washington a couple weeks ago. I had meetings with House Oversight Committee folks. And they are not going to be allowed to have a select committee with subpoena power and a staff to look into this. And that got killed by people who are part of this, I hate to say it, criminal operation who are in the Congress.

who have killed some of these bills that have been moving through, that I've been helping move through, and actually providing a lot of the intelligence for, and even the wording for, such as the amnesty provision that was in the bill last year that got killed in the House by the chairs of the House Intelligence and Oversight Committees, Mike Turner and Mike Rogers. But those guys get so much of their money from

from Lockheed and Northrop and the big aerospace companies in their campaign. So, you know, this kind of corruption is a huge problem. So politically it's become a very hard nut to crack, which is why I have pivoted to dumping everything we have into the public domain in the last month through this intelligence archive. Is that the DPIA? Yeah, dpiarchive.com. And that's free and open to the public now. It's got,

Everything you can imagine in there, but it'll take you a long time to get through it. It's a massive archive. Do these big companies right now have alien spacecraft in their possession, like Northrop? Yes, they do. And I know where they are. Silicon Valley or where? One of the things you'll see in the archive. Yeah, no, not Silicon Valley.

I mean, nothing important is in Silicon Valley. It's in the greater DC area and it's an underground basis out west. And by the way, the most important material is not Area 51. It's actually associated with the Lockheed Skunk Works complex out in the deserts. Makes sense. California, Nevada. It's all like a shell game. The public believes...

Look over here. There's other things way more important going on over here. And then now and then you have like a Las Vegas sighting and then everyone gets so hyped up about that. Is that real? But don't look at this. You know what they call it in the intelligence CIA? They call it stagecraft.

where you set up a operation, it's psychological warfare, and you divert people to look over here and don't look behind the curtain where the Wizard of Oz is pulling all the curtains. Right, I fall for it every time. They're perfect customers. Yeah, well, I mean, no, it's no one's fault. I mean, look, these guys are very good at what they do. I mean, and that's how, I mean, early on when I was looking into this,

I had no idea, and you'll see this in our archive, the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive. You will see the documentation of when we started staging false alien abductions for their psychological warfare value. And we now have found and have released the fact that Dr. Jacques Vallée

who has a cameo role in Spielberg's film. Oh yeah. Was he project blue book or no? Yeah. He, well, he was with an investigative team and then it was Dr. Jalen Hynek, who also makes a cameo appearance in a close encounters of third kind, who was head of project blue book. And I know his son and those guys knew that this was a very complex and

counterintelligence operation. So what you do, you put out one part information, 10 parts disinformation. And that is how you keep it secret because it keeps diverting people. And they run this game on the public, the media, the president, the Congress. So it's sort of my project's job to be sort of a watchdog on that and blow the whistle on it.

But it's a thankless position to be in because the people who have these belief systems that have built up around

oh, there are aliens who are abducting us. I said, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you don't have to go through a million light years of space because they need that guy's sperm and her egg. Well, this is the mythology, right? It's horse manure. But so in many ways, I'm a huge skeptic about 90% of what's out there on this subject. But it's only because I didn't start out that way. I discovered this.

through sources and methods who are direct. In other words, I have dealt directly with men who have staged the abduction. I've dealt directly with people who've worked on the man-made devices. I have dealt directly with people who have been on teams that have done the animal mutilations, making it look alien to create this fear factor, right? So, I mean, people go to what end? Well, it's like Wernher von Braun, who invented the rocket for Adolf Hitler on his deathbed.

He told Carol Rosin, who's on my team, who is the first woman executive in the aerospace industry in the 70s, and she's about 80 years old now, and she said, look, he on his deathbed said, they're going to stage a threat from outer space, alien, that's totally hoaxed, so that they can sort of create a militaristic threat

that would unite the world, not in peace and prosperity, but in fear and war, endless war. And he said that in, in, uh,

1974. So that was exactly 50 years ago. Well, if you had a spacecraft shooting down at something like, I don't think they've done that yet, but they, you could blame that, right? Is that the idea? Well, no, we have done that. We have man-made UFOs that have done that and obliterated entire villages in South America and Africa.

You know, we recently found that Dr. Jacques Vallée took possession of a 1985 CIA document. He won't release it. I think he's been threatened. He's still alive. Let me talk to him. And it says point blank. It says point blank. And he put this in his book in 1992, that the CIA had been staging alien abductions in Brazil and Argentina against unsuspecting, quote, peasants.

So for the psychological warfare value of putting this messaging out that there's a threat from outer space, that is in a CIA document, black and white. And so one of the big problems is, you know, occasionally in science fiction, this comes out.

out. Like the writers for the X-Files years ago studied my stuff and one of the episodes was an expose of the fact that these abductions were being done by black covert teams for their psychological warfare effect. And that was from my material. Oh, I saw that episode. I didn't see it. I heard it

I've never seen an episode of the X-Files, ironically, but I don't look at science fiction. My life is so damn bizarre. I know. How do you hold all this? I mean, do you have just a night out and have a couple of beers with the guys? Or I mean, this is a heavy thing. Oh yeah. I party hardy. Hey,

Hey, are you in LA? Come out to LA. We'll party. I'll show you. Yeah, for sure. No, I'm a party freak. Just to kind of, as a layman, just sort of this last stanza you're talking about is that, yes, we do have extraterrestrials flying around. There's this government faction or group of people, corporations, whatever, that fake these alien things as a lost leader, as a fearful thing, so that they retain power over society and

And then the second lane is this zero point energy. The suppression of that. Is that just fossil fuel companies don't want it and pay off the Congress kind of the classics or it's more complex than fossil fuel. It is more. It's about the macro economic system. In other words, our whole petrodollar system would have to be replaced. You know, you're looking at something where imagine every village in town or household on the planet.

And a senior executive with a Fortune 50 company is defecting onto our team right now. He says, oh yeah, for decades, the whole world could have had free energy. Well, that would eliminate poverty, but it would also upend the sort of pyramid of at the top down where there is a sort of select number of global elite interest, corporate individuals that are running amok. I mean, this is like,

the classical definition of fascism. I know that word is overused, but I'm using it in the way it was actually originated, and that is the industrial interests and moneyed corporate interests overtaking the interests of the people. And Thomas Jefferson, whose home is right down the road from where I am right now, he warned of this in his early writings, of the unchecked power of these sort of corporate interests. But it's not just U.S., it's global, because you imagine

We're talking over a thousand trillion dollars in assets that would be unnecessary if you start adding up all the public utilities, surface roads, oil, gas, coal, nuclear, electric cars don't need them. The current electric car system. Solar panels don't need them, although I have the biggest solar farm in Virginia right here.

because they're trying to help the environment. But in reality, it's a creaky system that's never going to run the planet of 8 billion people. Is it another distraction like, oh, you should do this and it'll help everything, but they really have the real answer? Of course, of course. So that's why they want to push trillions of dollars into the head fake. I call it pseudo-environmentalism, whereas the real environmental solutions are sitting in a black box out in the desert, right? So I think this is a real...

One of the reasons I became very devoted to getting this fixed, two things. One, we do need to have a diplomatic outreach to these extraterrestrial civilizations and stop shooting them out of the skies, which we are continuing to do. Because that's dangerous. That is a world security risk no one's talking about. Let's not poke them. Well, we already have. We already have. So they've crashed or we've shot them down or both? No, we've shot them down.

Jesus. And that includes the so-called Roswell incident in 1947. That was, if you go in our archive, you'll see an FBI document that when I got hold of it and released it, became the most viewed document on the FBI website. And it is a memo from a field agent to J. Edgar Hoover talking about that we had switched on a new radar system, which is

for one of these weapon systems, right? Right. Because you can have radar that's passive, but you can piggyback on that an electromagnetic directional energy beam that will disrupt an electromagnetic craft. And these spacecraft are totally electromagnetic field. So that's how those three...

disks crashed near Roswell. There were three. One wasn't found until 1950 or 51. But the two that went down, that was no accident. And people say, oh, there was an electrical storm. I guarantee you that if you're traveling through interstellar space, you can navigate a New Mexico electrical storm in the summer of 1950. Turbulence. Can I ask you a question? This is a very interesting story.

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The whole thing is fascinating. I just for a second wanted to ask you about generative AI or AI, which also...

is people are telling us they didn't tell us about the worldwide web, how destructive that was going to be in terms of social media and all of that. But what how does that intersect with what you're thinking? Because obviously it needs massive energy and, you know, apparently. Oh, yeah. But it also will become kind of like this alien brain that we control. Or what do you I mean, because what do you what's your thoughts on that?

AI, how it integrates with all this, this, the secret government and all those people. If you control it, you control the world maybe, or. Well, it can be, you know what I'd say about technology. You know, I just make this simple as an emergency doctor, I've seen a knife put butter on your bread and slit someone's throat or stab you through the heart. So it's the consciousness of who wields it, who has it. So the technology is neutral.

It's what men do with it, what humans do with it, right? So what does humanity do with a new technology? Do we turn it into a weapon? Do we turn it into something malevolent? Do we use it for the good? And see, this gets into something that sounds very philosophical and airy-fairy, but really the foundation of having a sustainable civilization is that we have to have advanced technology, but it has to be guided by a higher consciousness.

You call it higher spiritual consciousness, enlightenment, some greater interest besides your own, can I become another trillionaire kind of mindset. And I think that is the real crisis because in the 20th and early 20th century, our technologies have gotten ahead of our social and spiritual development. And that makes humans at a very dangerous place.

Now, this is why one of the other projects I run is the Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, where we actually train people to make contact with these civilizations and vector or guide them into a sighting or a landing or a contact event. And there's a movie out called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, and it outlines all of this. And it's a bit out there. People go, what?

the hell is this? But it has to do with using this higher concepts in kind of what Neuralink's trying to do, but on a much higher scale of the consciousness field to interact with extraterrestrial guidance and communication systems

what the CIA called remote viewing, using consciousness to see remote. Remote viewing is crazy. Yeah. Oh, I know. I know. Interesting viewers. Yeah. Ingo Swann and I were friends before he died and he loved what we were doing with that because we were doing it for peaceful contact as opposed to trying to spy on the Soviet Union back when he was. Right. But, um, you know, I know Russell Targ and all the remote viewers and, uh,

uh, the top CIE people who are currently working those programs, uh, I know. And, um, they're very positive about what we're trying to do using those concepts in what's called entanglement in physics or non-locality to, uh,

a remote view and contact these extraterrestrial civilizations and make a peaceful outreach. By the way, we're going to do it. It's open to the public. You guys should come. We're going to do a thing in July in Temecula. Temecula, yes. Yeah, we're going to do that. I think there are only about 80 places left, but we're also going to stream it globally. So we're going to do this global...

CE5, there's an app, by the way, CE5 contact app that trains you in remote viewing and doing this. I'm going to do a thing with Demi Lovato's there.

Yeah, about this. It's so much fun. This is way fun. Describe what remote viewing is just for a second. Just in quick remote viewing. Sure. Okay. So, you know, it kind of gets back to what Ben Rich, who was the head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, said in 1995. And he said...

Someone asked them about this whole UFO issue. He says, well, just remember, every point in space and time is connected instantaneously through this quantum field. Now, that's known as entanglement in quantum physics. The ultimate field of entanglement of interconnectivity is the consciousness field.

Now you and I think of consciousness as what we're thinking of. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the faculty of being conscious itself and the experience. It's like in meditation where you, because I was, before I was a medical doctor, I was a,

a golden boy meditation teacher went around the world teaching meditation in my first career. I have a mantra. I learned, yeah, oh yeah, all these people, you know, a lot of, I won't say who, a lot of celebrities I've taught

Meditation too. But we went around and we taught people how to go into that deep state. But remember, if you're in that deep state of quiet consciousness, you can awaken to another point in space or time. So you can see with your, say, third eye, a remote place in space or time.

So the CIA made a routine program of that in the 70s, 80s, 90s. But it can be used for very good purposes, too, besides spycraft. It can be used for knowing things that you need to know, for big discoveries. Many of the big scientific discoveries, like the founder of organic chemistry, went into a dream state and saw the structure of

of the organic system. And that's true. So it's a really amazing adjunct. It doesn't replace science or intellectual science. It's an adjunct. It's complementary to it. So one of the things that we're teaching people is that the civilizations...

I'll tell you, you want to hear a funny story? No, no. So I was with you do a skit on, sorry. By the way, I loved it when you did Church Lady years ago. It's a special. I mean, that was my favorite. We like aliens better than we like Jesus. I think that was Dana. It was me. That was my all time favorite. Anyway. Thank you.

Talk about consciousness. I just want to insert this, doctor. It's just you're reminding me a little bit of John Lennon's song, Imagine.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Which was basically a plea for higher consciousness, what you're talking about. And I do think if you can get it together, whoever does this, so aliens come down, kind of like the day the earth stood still, that will propel a lot of forward consciousness in terms of my religion, your religion, you know. So you live in a fascinating world. Well, that's what we're doing. Yeah. When Bob come into that. Actually, anyone, anyone.

Yeah, anyone who wants to come to this thing in Temecula, I think it's the weekend of July 26th, 27th, 28th, in about two months. And it'll be fun. We'll be out under the stars, so probably midnight, 1 o'clock, at this site out near Wynor, out in the hills outside Temecula. And if you can't come, you can be there virtually through a webinar link.

So it'll be a lot of fun. Is that at drstevengreer.com? Is that where people learn about all this stuff? Yes, drstevengreer.com. And the reason we're doing that, here's the reason we're doing it. In the early 90s, I realized, I went to the United Nations, met with the Secretary General and his wife and all these people. Nobody was doing anything to reach out to these civilizations anymore.

except in a militaristic covert way to shoot them down to steal their technology. And I'm going, wait, these are very advanced civilizations and there should be a diplomatic outreach to them rather than just down the barrel of a directed energy weapon, right? So we started this program in 1990, 34 years ago, called

called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind or CE5 Contact. And the app that we have put out recently, the CE5 Contact app actually trains you in, it's a whole course in remote viewing, contact, all the protocols. It's all in this app. And it's good preparation for people to realize you're not dealing with your granddad's Oldsmobile here, right? Because the way these civilizations communicate

They're not communicating with, like you and I are doing something at the speed of light. But let's deconstruct that scientifically for just a minute.

One minute at the speed of light. Let's say you're from a star system, a thousand years from here, light years, which is very close. That's close in our galaxy. At the speed of light, it'd take a thousand years for this signal to get there and another thousand years to get back. That's the time since the birth of Christ to go 1% of the way through our Milky Way galaxy.

It's not viable. And when I explained this to the CI director's wife, who was at our first meeting, she was the head of the National Academy of Science, chief operating officer and Sue Woolsey. And she goes,

What? I thought it had something like that. She didn't miss it. Now, the CIA director was a lawyer and a policy guy, and it went right over his head. But the scientists get this if they understand quantum entanglement, because the speed of light is too slow. But what is the speed of thought? The quanta of thought is instant.

Now, here's the trick. These extraterrestrial civilizations have electromagnetic devices that interface with thought. So you think to a computer, no wires, not like a... Right, like the spaceships. They don't have any buttons and stuff. They just think about it, right? You can think to it, it goes, or it actuates.

So that is what we call consciousness assisted technology. And I have another thing called technology assisted consciousness where technology can assist you in this remote viewing function. So these advanced civilizations have engine light. Yeah. It's so cool. It just tells you in your brain and bad breaks are bad. Yeah. It's really amazing stuff. And this is where the reason I became a meditation teacher is that when I was, uh,

I had a near-death experience. And when I was 18, six months later, I had this contact experience with

these ETs, and it was quite clear to me that the secret sauce of their entire system, communication, transport, everything, was this entanglement, this quantum conscious entangled universe. And that's when the kind of the veil fell and I saw what it was. And I went, damn, this is phenomenal. And of course, it was hard for me

you know because i was raised an atheist and we didn't believe in anything but what you could put in a test tube

Do a do. Yeah. Do these these aliens, do they coexist with potentially Catholicism? And where do they intersect with black holes or multiple dimensions that exist around us? And did you ever see the movie Interstellar? I just saw it recently. That's Chris Nolan's. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All about you put the black hole there. And so it seems. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.

Well, that's, you don't need a black hole to do that kind of transportation. You create, in a sense, through these electromagnetic field, you create your own portal or black hole through bending. Here's an easy way to explain it. Look at, you know, if you're looking at one point in space to another, look at that and see it as like, okay, here's this distance. Think of it as being on a piece of paper that you can fold.

And these two points become right on top of each other. That's what quantum entanglement is. And so these very high voltage electromagnetic field propulsion systems also have associated with it control of gravity waves. And that's how you bend space time. So you're not going through a straight line.

from point A to B. You're actually bending space-time, but you don't need to go through a naturally occurring black hole. It makes sense. I just wonder where this intersects with religiosity.

Basically, all the different metrics. I agree with Bill Maher. There's a difference. There's a difference between spirituality and religiosity. You know, religiosity is a bunch of primates fighting about the lantern that the light came in, whereas spirituality is seeing the light that is in the lantern.

And the lantern, the metaphor here would be Christ or Muhammad or Buddha or whoever. So when I was at the Vatican, I actually had a great conversation with the Pope's senior theologian, Monsignor Balducci. And he and I talked about this at length. And they don't have, yeah, he's fantastic. He's passed away now.

But he was a fantastic guy, brilliant, and genuinely spiritual, even though he was part of the organization of the Catholic Church. And he understood this, and they knew that we weren't alone. And he said, look, we just view them as children of God like we are. That's how he viewed it.

which was a beautiful way he put it. These aliens, do you think they have curiosity about how the universe got here? Do they understand in their consciousness the idea of infinity, something with no beginning and no end? They comprehend that. Because that's the human thing we can't hold in our mind. That's first grade. Here's the thing. No, that's first grade for them. Otherwise, they couldn't get out of their star system. If you're going to go interstellar,

You have to also understand this trans-dimensional conscious universe and entangled universe. Otherwise, you can't get there from here, like Maine, right? So you can't get there from here. There's no way you're going to do it. Who made the universe? Do they know? No.

Did they make it? Yeah, it's not a who. It's what... As I understand it, it's the understanding of... It's just always been. No, it's this cosmic consciousness, cosmic mind, intelligence. And you can call it as it appears in any way you want. I see. And it doesn't really matter. Although humans like to fight over that. I mean, if you doubt it, go move to the Middle East right now. I lived in the Middle East for three years. Had a belly full of it. So, you know, it's like...

You know, it's like that bumper sticker, dear God, please save me from your followers. Yeah, well, it makes sense. I mean, by you talking about it, I always need a lot of redundant learning, but I'm really starting to get what you're talking about, about consciousness and how that don't look at it the way, switch, make a paradigm shift.

to this idea of the universe and aliens. And then you just have a lot on your plate. Then there's this zero point energy and that whole thing, which would reorientate planet earth, you know, which is a scary place. Yeah. So I, it would create a planet in look in 20 years, we would have no pollution and no poverty 20 years, one generation.

almost within my lifespan, even though I'm going to be 69 next month. But, well, I might... Because what they say with electric cars is you have to still use the mines to get the energy to put the car. So it's almost like it's not the perfect solution. Yeah, but David, you know, they're charging those cars off of fossil fuel power grid. And remember, when you burn oil or gas or coal to create electricity, which is 82% of our electricity, you're

You're only getting about 50 to 60 percent of it is lost in the transmission wires. It's enormously inefficient, very polluting. But because it's not coming out of your tailpipe, people think, oh, how wonderful. When in reality, it's a Jedi mind trick by people who don't want you to know about.

Zero plane and quantum vacuum energy, right? And then where are we going to do with all these batteries? Yeah, yeah. Well, I always have an open mind about all this stuff because nobody can tell me exactly what's going on, how we got here, why are we here, what are we supposed to do here?

So I have an open mind to everything really until someone can say, so this, this is as good a thing as I can. And I I'm with you with electric cars. I feel like we pushed them too hard, too fast, you know, and China does not even have natural gas. They have just coal. And then there's all the lithium and sulfur we have to mine and all that stuff. And then where are we going to put all the batteries? I mean, I get the idea of it, but it seems this, your plan, if we can get that going, it seems incredible. Yeah.

Do you know if you look at the Floyd Sweet device from the 80s, and we have this documented in our documentary, The Lost Century, which documents a whole hundred years of lost technologies. And he had something the size a little bit bigger than a cigarette pack that generated enough electricity power to run a 300 horsepower electric engine.

And that was in the 1980s. And it never had to be charged and it never had to be plugged in. And I know a colonel in the army who was on my team until he passed away who documented it. We have all the evidence for it. He was killed. Floyd Sweet was killed.

But eventually, because he had been meeting with people at General Motors to bring this out. They didn't want it out because it would terminate the whole petrodollar oil system. So this is not a conspiracy theory. This is a criminal conspiracy we can prove. So the good thing is that there are a few members of Congress who

particularly Senate Intelligence and Armed Services and House Oversight, awakening to this. But they're moving too slowly. So here's a big announcement I have for you on this show. All right, we're going to attend. Starting June 20th, we have set up, I've been asking for this for 30 years, we have set up a SAP, a Special Access Project,

I won't say under what agency, that will protect these whistleblowers. So if anyone listening to this is or knows someone who is a deep cover whistleblower on this, we can now stand up very solid protection. And most of the guys I'm working with

who are in that program have been special forces Green Beret guys, and they helped me with my security as well. And they're wonderful men, and they're very dedicated to getting the bottom of this. They know that there are high crimes and treason against the United States going on, and that it needs to get resolved. So starting in about three weeks, we will be able to extend that protection to high-value whistleblowers. Love it. Wow.

I have a name question for the ending before we let you go. And we do have a lot of whistleblower fans out there. Also, just as kind of a backtracking from how serious those talks were, just some story about Marilyn Monroe I thought was interesting when I saw on there too. I think people knew she was involved with the Kennedys, but I don't know if they knew. Well, go ahead. You finish that one.

Yeah, well, some years ago I had a man who's a CIA who got into the vault that have a lot of these documents. And it was a top secret document. It's in our archive. You can look at it.

And it was signed by James Jesus Angleton III, who was the fanatical leak stopper, mole hunter at the CIA back in the early 60s. And it's a wiretap, it's a transcript of a wiretap on her phone in L.A. where she was threatening

Bobby Kennedy and a man named Rothberg, who was an art dealer, saying she was going to hold a press conference to tell the whole world what Jack Kennedy had told her about the objects from outer space from the 1940s found in New Mexico, etc. And before she could do that, and she was going to do it because they had backed off of their relationship and she felt jilted. And she thought she would just put

put that out there. And before they could, they killed her. Now, there was an old actor and singer named Burl Ives who was on my executive committee for some years. Burl Ives, of course. And he knew Marilyn. Oh, yeah, Burl was great. And he knew that Marilyn Monroe had been murdered, but he didn't know why. So I went to his house, and at this point he's in his 80s. This is back in the 1990s. And I give him this document. He goes, oh, my God, no wonder they killed her.

And so, of course, the whole world would have been at that press conference, right? She kind of casually throwing it out there. And then it suddenly was like, wait, we do have spacecraft? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so the Kennedys didn't have anything with Kilimanjaro. They were furious. But they...

This guy, the CIA cell dealing with this, and James James Angleton III, by the way, his grandson reached out to me some years ago. But it's a strange network we've developed here. But that was a tragedy. And there are so many people like that who have been trying to get the truth out, and they are naive about the power of these goose-stepping Nazis.

We want to keep this secret. They are fascists. The deep state, the deep state has got to go. We're going to take it out. The deep state has got to go. Well, I mean, that got coined after I did a presentation. Oh, really?

In 2015, it was called the deep national... It was called... The title of the presentation is on my YouTube channel. It's had millions of views. It's called the deep national security state. And that they took the deep state out of that. Oh. Trump always... Trump always shows... I am not... By the way, just on the record, I'm completely nonpartisan because I have to brief, you know...

Oh, yeah. Well, we make fun of both sides on our broadcast, too. Oh, yeah. Well, I do, too. Come on. He's talking about a spaceship. I call it the buffoonery of Washington. It's a comedy. A tragic comedy. Well, Dr. Greer, thank you for coming on. We really, really appreciate talking to you. So interesting. Fascinating.

This has been a presentation of Odyssey Superfly. It's executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, Heather Santoro, and Greg Holtzman. Hope you liked it.