Sarah Silverman
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

Hey guys, it's Spade, half of me and Carvey, and just want to let you know at the end of this episode, after the credits, we are going to answer some of the questions we asked you to ask us. So if you stick around, you're going to hear them. And if you want to ask us a question, you go to flyonthewall.com.

at cadence13.com that's an email address people get with the program you can email us at flyonthewall at cadence13.com ask anything to dana and ask me like really good ones all right so get your questions listen to the questions and ask your questions now here's the show

Hey, Jill. I'll be there in a second. I'm going to talk to my friend here. That's a little bird. Number one. It's a tiny bird. Come on. Don't scare me. You can't... I'm young. I'm strong. Come on. Here's the deal. You're a little bird. You're a little bird. Jill, I'll be there in a second. Come on. Oh, he flew off. What should I do with Putin? Oh, he flew away. How's that? All right. There you go.

That one. And how about this? And scene. No, here's this for Sarah. Okay. I went to the, Sarah sometimes does, you know, dirtier stuff. She's hysterical, by the way. Sarah's one of my world friends from SNL was when I first met her. So here's one. So I went to the doctor to get my physical and he goes, you know, at the end, it's sort of in the air that he's going to go up your behind. Oh.

You know what I mean? Like a yearly physical, they're going up your butt. Right. I asked the guy to do it when he first walks in. Can we get that out of the way? He goes, no, I like to save it. And I go, really? What do you mean save it? He goes, give me something to look forward to. This guy, as soon as that is done, and I don't like gross humor, he takes the

glove off. He starts walking away, throws it in the trash can and then sprints out of the office like as if it's some weird exit. What if he goes, I just want to get this over with. So he goes, let's just do it right now. And he doesn't, I'm not even putting the glove on. Let's just do this. And you're like, well, wait a second. Wait a second. All right. Well, these are the worst jokes in the world. No, these aren't gloves. No, but this one always made me laugh. The last thing you want to hear during that type of exam, look ma, no hands. Oh yeah. I'm sorry. It's just because his weenie's in there. Greg has finally

Greg Lashen, that's his line. Don't listen to him. He's shit. Greg is having gyrations. Our producer, Greg Holtzman at gregholtzman.com. Heather, you laugh at my stuff, he'll laugh at Dana's. Well, look, I'm on no hands. I'm sorry. Here's mine. This is actually a true story. So he goes, I'm going to start with pudding and then we'll say here's Sarah.

He says, I have to put a finger up your buttocks. And I said, feel free. I know it's part of the drill. So he goes, he got one in there. And he goes, I go, actually, try one more.

And he does too. And then I go, just for fun, try to put your whole hand in there. And he goes, okay, it's in there. And I go, now put the other one. He puts the other one. I go, now clap. And he goes, I can't. I go, tight, right? What? That was a long way to go. A long way to go. That's a great one. Tight, right? Well, my last exam, the guy tries to make jokes around that. He goes, did you hear about the guy who had five penises? His pants fit him like a glove. Anyway, drop him.

I know, my guy works in bits. I go, just do doctor stuff. Just do doctor. I don't do proctology much. We love Sarah because she's a hilarious comic. I see her out. She always has parties on her roof. We'll talk about that. Sarah Silverman has a great voice because I do voices. I do like her voice. She has a sort of...

It's almost like it's a sneakily seductive cadence when she does stand up. You know how she kind of moves her shoulders and her arms? I want to do jokes I remember of hers to her and see how close I get them. Try one.

Oh, you don't have one? No. When she goes, when she comes out and there's a song on and she goes, this is such a good song. She goes, this song is so good. I remember I got gang raped to this song in an alley and I still love the song. That's a testament to how great that is.

That's what it was, I think. She did something, I won't know the whole thing. She's canceled and now we're canceled. Oh, she, oh, we have to ask her because some guy in a porn was whacking off and when he jizzed, he goes, Sarah Silverman. She's had a lot of stuff about porn. She's got a lot of fans. So we'll talk about that. Sarah Silverman has a great sense of humor. I hung out with her at the 40th, at the party, the 40th anniversary of SNL.

And my running gag that night was just checking my phone and saying, you're trending right now. So that was my runner back then. It was a while back. That's pretty good, especially back then at the 40th because things were just beginning to trend. It was just full of stars. I have a picture with her from that. All right, well, let's hear what she has to say. Action, Sarah.

Hello. Hello, hello. Sarah, would you... Hey, I know it wasn't official, but would you be on our podcast? Sure. Oh, great. Thank you. Come on on. When do you want to do it? Now. Is that her? She's a black screen. Where am I? How come you can't see me? Are you baby Jessica in the well? Oh, fuck. Wait, let me put it... I have to put it on...

I spent 10 minutes fluffing my hair around so you'd be impressed. It's so good. Thank you. Look at Sarah's angle. Why am I so low? I don't know. It's funny. But I find it quite disturbing. Oh, Sarah. Is that a cork board? Sarah Silverman is on our podcast. Yeah. It's not video, so I'm not going to describe your mansion.

Sarah, we were just talking about, just quickly, about Ben Simmons. And I forgot, you play ball. Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is a basketball player. And we were saying that I was going to tell Dana that Sarah's a baller. And you used to play at Shanling's. Oh, yes. And I had played a few times, but I think you're better than me. And then, yeah.

Okay, don't question it. Just say, oh, did you? I just didn't know you played basketball. You guys... I'm a fucking athlete. I know. You were a professional cheerleader. For a while. They would throw him up and then he would catch him, right? Remember? In high school? I was the sturdy bottom of the pyramid. Yeah. Down to earth. So Sarah...

Walk us through... Let's go through now. Dana and I are so bad at this. This is your life. No, I've got a lot of questions. No, first let me ask her. She played basketball and she was good at it. And it was with Shanley and all these comedians. It was kind of fun. Yeah, I haven't played basketball since the pandemic. And I... Am I... And now I'm like...

I think I should be done because basketball is just not good for you when you're older. I had switched from, I said I can only play inside basketball

Because of my knees. So, I did that for a long time. But then I... Now I just, I don't know. I feel like I'm going to really hurt myself. Do your knees know the difference between inside and outside? You control the pain. Yeah. Because when you play outside, like on a playground or something, it's, you know, it's not... It's just pavement, like. Oh. Okay. You wouldn't understand. It's an athletic thing, but...

Sarah. I just say you guys are always part of the cool group. David. You guys are part, you're cool celebrities, both of you. I just put it together. Listen, Sarah, I have a question. I get two in a row, Dana. By the way, me and David do not know what we're doing. David is firm. Guys, I love your show and

And it's so interesting. And now the pressure's on because I feel like, oh, God. But I was talking to, I don't know if either of you remember Jonathan Katz, the great Jonathan Katz? Yes. Oh, comedian? Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Katz, professional therapist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, 100%. Yeah. I was talking to him yesterday and he was like, have you heard the Fly on the Wall podcast with Dana Carvey and David Spade? And I was like, I'm going to be on it tomorrow. Oh.

Geez. Now I'm feeling the pressure. What is Jonathan hearing that we're not? Because we usually kind of take a nap after this and sort of reassess life. It's so funny and interesting. Dana, I had some lady in front of Jersey Mike's yesterday say she saw it. You know what's funny? Or she heard it, but you know what's funny? Sarah, have you ever done this? Someone goes like, hey, weren't you on SNL? And I go, thank you.

And there was no compliment I just get nervous and say thanks Yeah like I saw you in And then silence I saw you on David Letterman And then nothing

That's the most fucked up. I saw you do stand up and then silence. My waiter at this place I eat, he's German and he goes, hey, there was a picture of me making on this. Are you talking about the IHOP on Holloway? No, I wish. That's where I used to go every single day for two years. This is another one. And the waiter goes, because I was kissing a girl in a pool and I don't know, I took a picture a couple years ago. And he goes, hey, and it was in all these websites because she was

marginally attractive and i'm sickening so that's always a story so they go uh this guy we gotta get him to a therapist i see it i don't like you talking about my friend david like that no i like me so i said uh i could understand it anyway so the joke was he came up and he goes hey little pool party this weekend and i go oh yeah and he goes a little fun in the sun huh

a little uh splashing around and I go right and he goes I saw pictures of you and I go yeah I know I know is this your German accent

Yeah, maybe it's not Germany. Slightly Germany. Maybe it's the valley. So then he goes, hey, and then he goes, but then they showed you getting on the water and you look fat. Why do you want them to have pictures like that? I go, why do I want the paparazzi to fucking get how it works? He goes, you look bad. And some of the pictures, I was like, well, I can't believe it. And I go, do you not, you are from somewhere else because you're

You think I pick, they take a hundred pictures and they have a jeweler's loop and they find the grossest one and go, this is the one we're going with. Run with it. So this is a random fan saying this to you. It's like a friend fan, but he's just, he's very, I think he was,

Half being funny, but half didn't know that I don't sit with the editorial at Daily Mail and go, I think I look better in this one. They're like, you know what? Great. If you look better and you like it. The Daily Mail fills so many pages with so much minutiae. It is crack cocaine. You go on that thing and man, the little picture's on the side and that guy's in a bathing suit and they're over there. It's so exciting. There's people in there that I don't even know. And I go, why am I in there every day? And I go, are they paying to be on here? Because...

There's no reason we should be knowing anything. It's so, you know, I really, it's not like I'm Britney Spears or something. You know what I mean? So it's like, I don't know. If they're around, I never see them pop up unless I were to like Google myself. Like I was, you know, like, like Sasha Perico and we were meeting for dinner in New York and he's like, well, if we go here, will there be paparazzi? I go, I don't know. Do you read Us Weekly? Like, how is that a part of your life? But, um,

Yeah, it's not overreacting. It's scandalous. We're just getting some nosh. Daily Mail is more ads. They know they're getting photographed, right? If you're at a beach in a bikini or you're on a yacht off Italy, you know they've got telephotos on you, right? I have friends from New Hampshire who are like, do you call them and tell them where you'll be? And I'm like...

Why would I call them when I'm walking uphill in sweat? Walking my dog looking like 18 zits on my face. I was wearing a hat and sunglasses and stuff for a while. I don't know. I was allergic to fame. I think at one point my wife said, I don't think anyone's paying attention. So I was like, okay, I got it. It is true. Nor should they. But yeah. The dirty secret, Dana, is that there are...

probably 50% of that is called in now. That's what I heard. So like, that's totally crazy to me. It makes sense kind of because it's places that you never see. There's a couple of places you kind of know. And then it's like, they're coming out of the Rite Aid and, you know, Topanga. And it's like, we got them. And I'm like,

So you had to cause them to have them drive out there, get them, and then either they split the money if they're a bigger star, but if they're not a big star, they just hope they sell it somewhere. They just hope they get it out there. Well, I remember one time I picked my mom up years ago at the airport. She was coming to visit. And, you know, I was just... And, you know, at the airport, you just get, like, sloppy thirds or whatever. Like, there's a paparazzi there for someone big, and then they just see... And then the airlines, you know, like...

So I pick up my mom and there's, and there's like TMZ or paparazzi just walking the whole way to the car. And I'm just, you know, you know, you're, it's like stuff with your mom when you're a daughter, it's, there's so much, you know, and she's just loving it and talking to them and stopping and talking to them. And I'm like, mom, let's, you know, and if I, you know, you can't like be upset in front of someone, let's just get in the car, you know, you know, and she's driving me insane for, because she loves it so much.

And we get in the car and she goes, well, I don't know why you're in such a rush. I mean, they're just doing their job. I said, mom, the greatest thing that could happen to them is that we get into a car accident and die right now. And they have the last pictures of, you know, like that. It's not beautiful. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah.

If it's outrageous. I don't care, but it's just like. Dana, one time I walk into a restaurant and there's all these like super famous people and it's, you know, obviously they told me later women sell better, you know, because they get in all the magazines and what they're wearing. So I walk in and I go, nothing guys. And then he does it from the waist. He has his camera and just from his waist goes, deej deej.

Two flashes and I go, you don't even lift it up to your eye and look through it. And he goes, no, I know what I'm doing. I go, well, I better see that somewhere.

Oh, we're sad little celebrities. I remember Jimmy Kimmel. He said that he actually overheard like his show had just started. But he was early on in his, you know, like his talk show just started and he got like paparazzi'd. And then he walked around the corner and walked past the same guy that took his picture. And he was on the phone and he overheard him go like, man, it's a really slow day. Yeah.

It's such a, they always check you to remind you what level you are in the business. So sickening. Do your feelings get hurt easily in show business, Sarah? Or you feel you're tougher than you used to be? I don't think so really anymore. I still, you know, like I get fired from things or unhired from things. And I don't take it too personally. I got hired. This writer director wrote this series that's coming out on a streaming platform called

Nice in general.

And I was like, great. And I'm, you know, I have the script and there's dates and everything. And then he emails me back and he said, Sarah, I'm so horrified. The something plus people said no. And I didn't know that was even a thing. Like I thought I could hire anyone I wanted, but they said no. And I go, what?

Don't worry. You know, for in a way it like feels like relief, like, you know, when people cancel plans and you're like, ah, like, oh, yeah, relief because I, you know, of course, I stress about it because I want to do a good job. But I mean, part of me is like,

I don't understand why and then part of me does understand why so I just you know well do you like said do you get when you get hired for corporate gigs or anything did you have to tell them ahead of time does does your do they know what they're getting sometimes or do you adapt to a situation because with me sometimes they go oh yeah they know what they're getting right so they go they adapt to you know what they want yeah

Yeah. I mean, there was definitely a time where I would have my manager, like when I did the Ted talk that they then wouldn't host. Um, what? That's right. I had my manager call back three different times and say, she just wants to make sure you, cause she loves Ted talks and she, you know, I always watch them with my mom and,

She wants to make sure you know what she is and what she does. And I really, in earnest, like planned the whole 18 minutes. I was so excited and it did well and the crowd loved it. But yeah, they wouldn't post it for many years. And I ask why. I mean, why did they not want to post it? I don't know. But it was a whole long drama where the head of the TED Talks,

who had called and like reassured me we want you it's about all different voices oh my gosh like that was awful it was like million followers and i was just like covering their ass yeah it was so shitty he's apologized many times since over the years because uh

you know, I, but I, you know, when you mess with a comedian, it's hard because then I was like, talked about it on like real time with Bill Maher. This was like, you know, it's like it murdered him. And, and, um,

He called my manager and was like, could we have a truce? Sure, of course. I did it in such earnest. Sometimes someone will tell you at a corporate date, a CEO or something, oh yeah, go blue, man. Go kid. Say fuck, whatever you want. You're like, okay, I don't even use fuck that much, but I dropped a few. And then the booker is kind of like, not good, man. Not good. I go, but the CEO told me to do it.

They're like, that guy didn't even work there. I've had people come backstage and go, just fuck around. And I go, what do you do here? He goes, oh, I'm friends with the guy that booked you. I'm like, oh, well, I don't know if I'm going to be going by you because you're leaving right after. And then I have to deal with, they don't want to pay you. I mean, yeah, I don't want to disrespect anyone. Like those corporate gigs are like...

You know, they suck. And I appreciate them so much because they're just like, it's like how famous people used to do commercials in Japan. Like it's just this hidden thing where you make money, you know. You make more than a regular gig. Like three times. The best you can do is like a C plus. Then you walk out of there so happy. Yeah. And they go, oh, we want you to be crazy. And then they're like, you know, upset when you talk about coming in God's mouth or something.

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Oh my God. One thing that hit me is like, you're like, you were so cute and so sweet and innocent. It was like, it really was charming, but you were like 21 or two. You started standup at 17. So within four years you're on television. That's pretty good. How did you like, what, how did you, how did you get that good that fast? A lot of people, it takes 10 years, uh,

Were you headlining clubs when you went on Conan or? No. They just saw you at the improv. I was doing set spots around town and stuff. Okay.

But I, yeah, I got, you know, I'm from New Hampshire. So, but like I went to this high school where they had assemblies and they'd let me do like three minutes, you know, at assemblies and stuff. Or like my math teacher would let me tell like one joke at the beginning of class. And then I had to be quiet and that was our deal. But, and then I, but when I moved to New York, I went to NYU and I just went for one year because I,

I've always been a very good student. I've never not done my homework, you know, but then I was working at a comedy club, passing out flyers from like 4 PM to 2 AM every day and then going to classes. And I was sleeping through my classes and I'm not like that student. Like I was pinching myself trying to stay awake. I couldn't keep my eyes open. And I, so I, my dad said, if you,

quit college, I'll pay your like rent and utilities, like $350 for the next three years, like it's your sophomore, junior, senior year, and then you're on your own.

So it was a great deal because I did steal classes because I had all these like numb nuts friends that were like rich and going to NYU and didn't even want to go to classes, you know? But then I could just really focus on standup. And then by the time I would have been a student,

Would have graduated. I was working with you on Saturday Night Live. But, you know, I mean, I was only there one year and then I got fired. And then for a while, I didn't know if I was in show business anymore. Were you kind of like Woody Allen, Woody Allen, Stephen Wright sort of influence in the early days or who was who were you kind of looking up to as a stand up?

When you started, I mean, Steve Martin was my, or Steve Martin. I don't, you know, like I, it's funny. Cause in my, the, the house I grew up in, my room was like the attic and, uh, on the ceiling and pencil. I wrote, I love Steve Martin with a heart around it.

And it always was there. And now then my mom died and my, we, my sister sold the house and they, the realtor came to one of my shows in Boston and brought me a picture of

They redid the whole house, but they saved that one square ceiling. So it's still there. Wow. He was a big one for me too. I knew all the albums. It was the first thing I was memorizing. Oh my God. I just love him so much. And, but I, I don't know that I was like him. I don't know who I was. I imitated. So all the people influenced around me in the beginning before I saw him. You remind me of Dice. When I see my early stuff, I'm like, Dice.

this today. I'm just really nervous. And, you know, the great one-liners, though. Great one-liners, though, which I can't write. So when someone writes a great one-liner, you know, like Woody Allen or Stephen Wright, those two, and you can, you have that skill set. Yeah, my mom had a Woody Allen double album that, where

Where he's at like a nightclub, you know, he says like, this watch is very special to me. My uncle on his deathbed sold me this watch. Yeah. It's all that misdirection. Yeah, sure. So when they saw you, have you done any gigs? Like when I was doing standup, I had only been, I only got to New York once.

My friend hired me to open for her company at something, open for Ray Charles at their, it was a corporate gig. I actually, I got 1500 bucks. I bombed miserably, but I had never even been to New York. And then I went back. And then by the time I got SNL, I'd really maybe only been there twice. Were you ever going out West and doing gigs? Everything's pretty much back East in standup, right? No, I had done, no, I had done two things in Los Angeles. I did,

Comic strip live and evening improv. So they had like that tape, you know? Yeah. I saw that. And it wasn't Marcy or who's, who brought you in to see Lauren or did they just call you Marcy Klein or Marcy Klein? I'm, but I met with Lauren and Jim Downey in, in LA. I've met with Lauren in LA because he was at Paramount and he,

And I remember I had just read like Saturday night. So I just like I went into the meeting with Lorne and just asked him a million questions, you know, and I feel like that was like a good move because he's a rock on tour, you know? Yeah. And oh, you read the book. Chevy was always like that.

I remember I asked the cue. I go like, why are you, you're a performer. Like, why didn't you, you know what I mean? I'm like, I, but, um, you know, like, so, but, and then they invited me to the Coneheads premiere. Nice.

And that's when I found out I got, I was hired as a writer. Oh, I was there. I was there. And you know, there weren't phones or anything. So I was like, I just went to the bathroom and sat in a stall and was like, Oh, I just want to call my mom, you know? Yeah. And you got, so they told you at the Kona's premiere and then you didn't know what to do with that. You're like, I can't even focus on this stupid movie.

Wow. So what did you, so your first week there, I mean, who did you hook up with? I mean, did you have a friends right away or someone you knew from standup or were you like an alone island? Dave Attell and Jay Moore. I knew those two from standup. Hmm.

mm-hmm and norm mcdonald's was hired too who i loved but i know him well and we you know i got to know him there so you came in with three other newbies right so four of you they were coming in yeah but i was the first day lauren like matched me up with these three writers who are also my age and new dave mandel yeah lou morton steve lookner who's become like a

right wing, he found his little niche. Oh, look, Mira. You know what? Show business doesn't give you what you feel you have earned because you went to the Harvard Lampoon. It can make you bitter and then you go, oh, the right finds me real funny. But you know where the love is. I'm fascinated. How do you spell that? Steve? Oh, I know. But anyway, he said, oh, you all hang out. You're all 22 and they're all from Harvard.

And we spent the whole day together. We went to like the cafeteria, which I don't think I ever went to again. And at the end of the whole day of hanging out, I remember one of them was like, so you're, what are you like a typist? They thought I was one of the typists. And I was just like, no, I'm a writer like you, you fucking asshole. Wow. What?

They don't realize there was like a madman room where there was four girls typing the sketches for you. Yeah. I mean, computers existed, but not there. It was like you wrote in longhand on little pads. Yeah.

And it looked crazy. And I can't believe anyone can follow it. And then these like genius typists in a room of typists. Claire, like an army. Yeah, they go through it. Ellie, Claire. I remember writing on those legal pads because you just had like a wooden desk and a legal pad. And they're like, okay, see it read through. And you go, what am I doing here? I don't even know how to write a sketch. I don't know anything. And you got to figure out as you go. I guess Dana was gone when you got there.

Yeah, he had just left. And I remember you, I saw you, you came back one day and you came down like an elevator that I had never seen before and got off of it. And I saw you walk with a few people and I was like, really? Secret elevator. He came back for a victory. I still, no one tells you your way around. No one tells you how things work. Like, I remember I got my first sketch that I had written by myself on and I was so excited. John Malkovich was the host and,

And it went great in dress rehearsal. And then this was my first time, like, having something. So then we're all sitting, like, on the floor in Lauren's office after dress. Yeah.

I remember I was on the floor and Malkovich was sitting in a chair like next to me high up. And he looks down and he goes, I'm so sorry. I really messed up a line in dress. And I go, don't worry about it. You'll get it on the air. It'll be great. And Mike Myers goes, it's cut. Look, it's on the left side of that line. He's like, it's cut. You know, I have no idea. Like I just, no one tells you. You just, you're thrown in, you know, like. Right. You walk in after dress and they had picked the,

for the audience, they pick the sketches while you sweat it out outside the door. And then they finally open it and go, you can go in. And then you walk in and you immediately look at the wall and like three sketches are moved out. Like they got caught. Maybe an update piece. I had no idea. That's how I learned that. Right. So you sit down and then you go, Oh, look behind you, Sarah, it's cut. No one ever goes, here's how it works. You walk in and you look, and then you still try to put on a brave face, even though you're not going to be in the show.

And so you just sit on the floor while they do a whole meeting and all you can think of is, I'm not even in this one. But it was, you know, I, it was like, I did enjoy being there. I mean, in a million years, I didn't know I was not coming back. So I'm writing sketches for the next season. I'm thinking like, this is going to be my year. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know why I, I, you know what? I never think I'm getting fired. Like even still. And I still do, you know, I do all the time, you know, I get fired a lot, but I still get fired from this, you know? And, uh, like before anything that happens, but yeah, I was, I was, yeah, it had never occurred to me. You know, you're not a big compromiser. It doesn't seem so. You do your act and I've seen you recently even go on. And I always just like to sit back and watch and see what you're coming up with. Um,

And it's always fun to see that you're still... You still try. You still work hard. I do the same thing when I do stand-up. I still like it. I still try. It's fun to get it back up there. And I like when you crawl on the piano. I like when you... You just have your own unique thing. And then your jokes are always so clever. I go, God damn. But at least...

it's not like, oh, this is this type of comedian that everyone's doing. You're always got your angle and that's why when people might fire you, it's in a weird way a compliment, maybe 1% a compliment.

But that they go, she's just thinking out of the box, which is what you want from someone, but they don't really handle it well. They go, no, no, we want the regular stuff. You come off so confident, Sarah. I just wonder, do you have situations coming up or in stand-up sometimes? Like for me, I just go mayday, mayday, I must kill, desperatize, you know. Mayday, mayday. Not going to do it. But you always seem, you know what I mean? Just like, well, isn't that better? But...

You seem serene and confident. It's very pleasant to watch. And I think part of the reason your specials were so well received is because you're not pushing ever. You're letting the audience come to you. I mean, is that intentional? It's just your nature? Because you do seem so calm and confident doing stand-up. I mean, I don't really think about it. I don't feel that way, but I definitely have learned something.

from so many people. Like when you said that, it makes me think of, I remember seeing Chris Rock at

the comic strip years ago. And it was before he was who he is now, like pacing and louder and like, you know, he hadn't everyone changes and grows and, you know, but he was quiet on stage and he'd go on and like the comic strip was like, it's like a zoo. Like people are, the audiences are crazy. And he, he would just,

um just start and and not be loud to get the audience to hear him so it was like there was no desperation and if they if the audience missed the first two or three jokes that's their problem and so they all got quiet and leaned in and I go I noticed it you know I was like

Oh, wow. He's so much more powerful being quiet than going like, you know, I would be like, Hey, everyone. And that's like what a teacher would do. Like it's, it's, you can, it's sweaty. Like there's an audience can, they don't,

No, they couldn't probably articulate this, but like an audience can smell desperation, you know? So it doesn't help you to like, you've got to get yourself in a place where you're like, all right, not for everyone. But, uh, the last thing I always say right before I got, if I remember to remember it is have fun. And I remember telling John Lovitzak, he credits me with coaching him, but I only gave him a couple of tips, but it's very sweet about it. I said, John, remember, you got to have fun right before you go out. Thank you for saying that.

It saved me so much time, you know? And the other thing was huge difference to remember that massive, you can forget in a second. And then you're five minutes in and you realize I'm not having fun right now. What, what, what happened? You know, cause you got it on it. They pick it up. But, um, John also said, you're honest. They also like, we appreciate that. Like I,

I feel like there have been a few times where I'm like, for some reason or whatever's going on in my life, and I'm not a big crier, I was like sobbing that day and thinking like...

And then like thinking about how I have a spot that night, just being like, I don't feel funny. You know, like nothing's funny. And those are always nights I have good. Do you, you know what I mean? Like you're always surprised that you have a good set that night. Cause there's something like cathartic comes out or I don't know. It's like when you're sick and you got to do a set.

And then you have a great set because you go, I just got to do the set. I don't have to kill or not kill. There's no pressure. I'm just lucky I'm here. I have bronchitis, you know? Yes. Oh, Sarah, I got a question. When you go up sometimes, Dana, she brings a- Well, you interrupt Dana, and that might be an issue for you too later. What did I do? You did interrupt Dana. I did, but I thought he was finished with his- We like to interrupt each other. We feel it's a good energy. Oh, okay.

David, okay. David, go ahead. My question is, David Spade, because this made me think of this, but we do it all the time. You have sometimes a notebook when you go up or a pad, you know? And do you think sometimes it puts less pressure on jokes? Because I sometimes, rarely, but because I want to read it, I want to get it right, like I'll just go, hey, I'm going to do this. And it's almost funnier to them sometimes

That I have no belief in it sort of. And then later I do without it. It doesn't work as well. I'll tell you, I think that's such a... I always bring a notebook because I think I have brain damage from...

so much like marijuana use, or I don't know, like, I feel like I'm getting like, I'm so terrified of getting dementia, but I, so I, you know, and I want to just be able to be loose, but I, I can't be loose if I'm like reaching for like, you know what I mean? At a certain point when you're on the road, you remember everything, but, but I do concede that having a notebook gets you a lot of, um,

Because they feel like you're working on stuff that it has, they have, the jokes have a feeling of immediacy that give them a lot more credit for the audience. When it's something like, oh yeah, I'm looking at my notebook, but I do know this works, you know? You know, like it's so it.

Sometimes I don't know, but when you're trying new things, they always give you like 10 times more leeway. Wasn't it called the alt comedy in Largo where you would comment on your act, comment, be very open? The first time I played in there, first couple of times, I felt very uncomfortable because I was like a road comic from the 80s.

And then I finally, I just had Nick Kroll interview me or anything where I'd be tipped off just doing bits. And so I think that you're kind of one of the, you know, the leaders of that movement in a way, that authenticity, or at least that's the vibe I get. You know, the audience feels like you're being very, very real with them and not just doing bits. Well, I always think like it's funny when either of you guys were like nervous at Largo because like you kill at Largo. They love conversations.

comedy. They're like, the great thing about the audience there is they're, they're just huge comedy fans. They just want to like drink you up however you want to serve it, you know? But it's like, just because like what you do works on the road doesn't mean it won't kill at Largo. Like it has to be some experimental, like anti-comedy thing or it not at all. Like,

You know, sometimes sometimes your heroes are in the wings like Martin Short is there or Bill Hader is going to watch me do stand up people I really admire. And they kind of see how they know the rabbit gets out of the hat because you're sort of working. So I feel like in that situation, it's better to have loose notes. Here's what happened to me today and go with it. But I like that style. So that's what I do now, but not at a corporate date. Yeah.

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Flanagan's coming over at 1230. That's the guy from Largo. He runs Largo. Yeah, Flanny. I heard you guys talking about him. He's so sweet. Yeah, he's as good as they come. Do you think on SNL, would you change anything when you were there? Because you only did a year. You didn't have a prep because you remember. I think I thought I was coming back too. Was there anything you could have done while you were there or is it just the way it was going to be? I mean, I...

I think it's just the way it was going to be. I did the best I could for my age and my experience. You know, like I... You're so young. Very young. Did you do any update features? Because it seems like if you're coming in there and you're not acclimated, you can always... I remember you reading some updates. Because that's like stand up in a way. I did one update. And... But it was an update that like I had to submit and submit like...

First, it was in dress and then it got cut. And then like, you know, people said like, you can resubmit it or whatever. And then I remember Rob Schneider going like, I can't believe you're shoving that update piece down our throats again. And I was like, my heart just like went in my stomach, you know? What are you doing? They don't want that. Come on. Gotta be original. It's got a stink on it. It's true. And I wasn't, I was a kid and I felt like I was working with grownups. And then I felt like,

These grownups can be still me. Like I didn't know grownups were that way, you know, cause I had only been known grownups to be like friends, parents, you know, not like, like, um, colleagues, you know, if I got on that show at age 22, I would, I never would have lasted. I would not have had the confidence or the experience to do it at that age. Um,

You know, Eddie Murphy did it. He was amazing at 19. That's still like a shooting star. I can't, there's never been anyone that confident at 19, but yeah. But for you, I think it was just your age. Cause I think you, I think you should go back to that show now. So earnest. And I remember I wrote this sketch that like had some, like, like, um, said something like, you know, like, I can't remember what it was, but it was like, had like,

It was about racism or something. I was trying to earnestly use comedy to say something, which is not... And I remember at one point I had Farley said, like, or something like that. And he just went at the table where he just went, Doe. No. Do you think he took a dive or did he do it on purpose? Oh, 100%. Oh, that's horrible. It was just like so...

Oh, I, you know, whatever. But I think my best there was like on punch up nights because I could I contributed well and like punch ups. And I was so in love with Jim Downey. It's like heartbreakingly in love with him. But, you know, he was like, you know, and does he know about this or is he hearing this from? Oh, no, I'm sure. Sure.

I'm sure I came on very strong in my own way, but I was like, he was like a grown up, you know? And, but I remember writing a sketch and saying like, can you help me with it? And he said, yeah.

And I think it was when Martin Lawrence was hosting. Cause his friend wrote there and was like, came Bowman or I don't know. I can't remember. John Bowman. Martin's friends. Maybe. No. One of Jim Downey's friends. So then they were hanging out in his office and he said, just wait outside my office until I'm done here. And I fell asleep. And then I woke up and it was the morning and,

And he was just coming out and I go, are you ready for me? And he's like, for what? And I go, I gave you my skit script script. And he's like, I don't, I don't know. I don't have it.

Downey? I love him though I mean of course I still love him It's like a teacher it's like you being like a college girl And that's your professor Right yeah Jim is definitely one of the smartest people I've ever met I've met a lot of smart people I loved him so much But it was a different time For sure wouldn't you say David A different time A thousand percent Didn't you stab Franken for some reason

I did accidentally. I just read that. Stabbed Alfred. Okay. So I only for some reason sat next to him at table at punch up. And then, you know, they had this really sharp pencils and a big thing, you know, and I was like leaning back and like, I had my pencils all sharp and he had like a really big, like fro, you know, big Jewish hair. And I remember just like, my brain was,

And I just thought like, oh, I could like stab this pencil through his hair. But what people saw was I just turned and stabbed him and I hit his temple. And it looked insane. I stabbed him in the temple. And I remember him just going like, oh, why? Sorry. That's what he said, why? Why? Why?

And I couldn't answer because I was laughing so hard and tears were pouring down my face and I looked like a crazy person that just stabbed Al Franken and then laughed maniacally.

Oh, man. I couldn't put it into words like, oh, in my head, it would go through your head. There's no not crazy way to explain that. I wish I overlapped with you for a year. Me too. I would have had you on Church Chat. We would have had you on Wayne's World. We would have had you on Hans and Franz. You think that now, but I don't know. It feels like such a waste because you're such a smart writer that...

it just wasn't the time for you to hatch all these things 'cause later in your life, I think your standup is also known for being very personal and you say so many things about your life and anything you're thinking, you pretty much say, it seems.

So, or a lot of it. Yeah, but you have to remember, like, I wasn't me now then. No, I'm saying it's kind of just... My sketches are terrible. It was undercooked. They're not good. Yeah, I think SNL now, like you're saying about racism and stuff, SNL now does do a lot of personalized things and they do do a lot of

political things or what people are thinking or people take a stand on stuff. But back then, like you're saying, it was a different time. Of course, on every front, it was sort of different, you know? And I'm so exhausted with like things that have something to say, which I do like. I love being just aggressively dumb and silly more than anything. I told someone, I was like, my comedy is not important. And in this day and age, it feels like it's got to be important. And then you go, I'm just trying to get laughs. You know why your comedy is important?

because your comedy is important because it's, it's not that it's, it's not lowest common denominator. It's genuinely both of you. So belly laugh, funny, and everyone can enjoy it. Like it doesn't divide anyone, which is massively important. I, I, yeah. I mean, you,

I appreciate it more and more all the time because life beats the shit out of you. And you have people come up to you and maybe if you're 35 or something, they say, I really needed that tonight, but now it resonates with me. So if you can get someone to belly laugh, cause you can't worry and belly laugh at the same time. I mean, it's brain candy, like watching a great show or watching the movie, marry me, which my wife and I love doing that movie. Well, you know what's funny about that? It's so good that they held it for so long because by the time it came out,

You know, even like cynical fucks like us were like, yeah, I just want to feel good for an hour. Like really ready to watch that movie. Yes. Because of the pandemic and Ukraine or whatever it was just like, and then you were just the perfect sidekick in the movie. Like didn't every line just land perfectly. But anyway, can you want to talk therapy for a little bit? Yeah. Only fans. I'll give you, I'll give you top picks.

I used to wet the bed too for your book. You did? Yeah. Oh yeah. I was a champ. For how, when did you stop? Uh, you know, probably somewhere around 12 to 14, I think.

The story I remember the most is there were five kids, two parents, and we're in a Cadillac going, driving through Montana, old fashioned Cadillac, and we couldn't find a hotel. So we had to sleep in the car that night. It was a three seater of 1958 Cadillac. So I got the spot where the transmission goes, you know, behind the seat, the hump,

I'm in a sleeping bag in the hump. And then the next thing I know waking up is I hear my brother and my mom looking down at me and talking about this giant wet spot on the sleeping bag. So like, yeah, I guess he's, well, should we wake him up? I don't know. I went to bed and I'd heard that.

and there there was just no dignified way to get out of that wet bag you unzip it you stand up okay you gotta own it but and you know i i never felt that bad about though because i just thought i was just a heavy sleeper i didn't feel shame it was brutal like sleepovers were terrifying i just like pinch myself awake all night you know like and and

But I did have these friends that were twins, Lori and Amy Martin. They were my best friends. And they knew I was a bedrider. But I would really try. And their mom would wake me up before she went to bed and take me to pee and stuff. But so one night, I remember waking up in Amy's room on my sleeping bag. And I had wet. And my heart was pounding. I didn't know what to do. So I flipped it. Yeah. So the circle was up.

And I, so then when Amy came in, I go, I went to bed, but it went up. So you don't have to tell your parents, you know, like it didn't get on the floor.

Yeah. Sometimes you would just move over and sleep on the dry side. Yeah. And just let it, let it go. That feeling when you wake up and you're like, you feel warm and you're like, did I wet the bed? And then you'd have to move just a little bit. And if you felt that whoosh of cold air, you knew that you peed. It was like so awful. I remember I, my first sleepover party was at this girl's house and the mother was a

fucking cunt. And the worst thing was, this is actually my music. I have a musical opening April 30th in New York and it's called the bedwetter. I'm not in it. It's the year I'm 10. So it's like this little girl.

And it has this scene in it where I didn't know it was a sleepover. And then they're like, oh, you have to sleep over, you know? And then I tried to tell my mom and they're all listening. And she's like, are you sure you want to sleep over? And I have to say yes, because they're on the other line, like listening.

And then I have to borrow pajamas. Her mother made her daughter, she was like a pageant mom. So I'm in these like, I'm seven and wearing these sexy harem pajamas and sleeping in their sleeping bag. And I wake up drenched and I'm so horrified. And I just am like, from having to go to sleepover camp every year, I had just had this mechanism of disassociation where I just like,

Got changed with all the other girls and it was wet, but I just, it probably stank. I just didn't acknowledge it. And then Heather's mom walks in and she steps right in my wet clothes. And this is what a mother of seven-year-olds does. She picks up the wet clothes and she goes, who did this?

And I'm just standing there like out of body. And I swear to God, it's 1978 or I don't know when it was. And just as I'm thinking like, am I supposed to say something or can I just I'm not going to. And then the father came in and went, Elvis died. And it's like Elvis Presley dying saved my life because I was able to just get picked up and get out of there while they were like so upset. The king died.

God, that's one of those non sequiturs that Elvis saved that humiliation. Did you wet the bed every night then? Because mine was more interstitial, but it was fairly consistent. It was a lot of the time. And it was until I was like 15. And then a couple of times as an adult, like when I got fired from Saturday Night Live, I remember I wet the bed like three times in that week. And it was with three different men's beds.

Oh, wow. Yeah, because I, you know, I liked sex. It was so new to me. I lost my virginity as a comedian. I was 19. So I was just like, after that, I loved it. And I was like, what do his balls look like? What do his balls look like? What do his balls look like? Now, did you, were your friends like that as well at 19? Like, would you call yourself promiscuous at that point?

uh or once when i lost my virginity at 19 like through the year of being 20 yeah yes i like kept noxema in my backpack so i could wash my face wherever i landed but um i didn't regret it i got a terrible reputation i was a slut meanwhile all the guys are fucking different waitresses every single night you know well yeah there's a definite these guys i know all of them still

That's it. I, well, I don't, it's not like something from my past because they're comedians. Yeah. Yeah. They're your friends now. Wow. That's cool. I like that. I always thought it was a double standard. Why, why do women, they have a one night stand. They're a slut. Oh yeah. I was a whore, but all these guys that fuck every waitress on the road are, were just like, cool. No, no problem. And they fucked all the same girls and.

Wow. So when did you, what are you looking for? Because just casually, we as a public are fans of yours. We sort of know your different relationships. And do you, has it evolved who you look for or is it whimsical or are you out there or are you currently in a relationship? I'm just. Oh no, I'm, yeah, I have a live in love. Okay. So how many, well, how's it going? Good. I love him. He's great. You know, I really felt like I was at a place

you know, after my 20th year, I was just in like back to back long-term relationships. So it was that one crazy year of just wanting to experiment. And then, I should have, I did everything right in my opinion, but you know, um,

Yeah, he's great. He's a writer, producer. He's so funny. And I really was at a place where I really felt done. Like, I just feel like I don't want to, I love love, but I don't want to share my bed anymore. I really, you know, I got to a place in the past few years before meeting him, like, where

where I really became my own best friend. And I love being alone. I love coming home and I love doing anything I want at all times and not disappointing anyone. You know, I really was into it. And then we met over the, like at the beginning of quarantine, like in the March, 2020 over, um,

playing video games, like, um, playing, um, duty online, call of duty online. Cool. Yeah. So every night at seven Oh five, we would meet online and kill Nazis together. And, um, you know, I knew him a little bit. We had mutual friends. He's, you know, he's a comedian and a writer. He was the, he ran the daily show with Jon Stewart for a long time. Okay.

And do you feel like you've matured or have more confidence in a relationship or how have you evolved? You know, because going into this one, it was really good because I had, I know what I want and don't want. And I could be very clear from the beginning and him too. We both, you know, like I, I,

I've had a, I love my exes. I have good taste in men. I, you know, I, I met several of them that you do have great taste in men. I do. And, and, and I'm, I love, they're like, they become like brothers, you know, as you, you know, and, and, and, and, and,

But with the reason why they didn't work out, I don't know specifically each thing, you know, whatever. But I always felt like I was disappointing. I tried. It's always my goal to be the best possible girlfriend. And yet I still felt like I had that feeling like I'm disappointing this person in some way. And I just, I don't want, I'm not, I would never cheat. I have total control.

blinders, you know, not blind. I mean, in a good way, I would, you know, if I'm with someone, I don't see men, other men in a sexual way at all. You know, I'm very devoted, but I, yeah, somehow I would feel like, oh, I'm disappointing. There was always something. So it's nice to be with someone that I'm not, I can just say like, this is, I'm at a point where this is how I want things. And he can say the same. And we, we,

We talk about stuff. Is Spade not on? Where were you? Where were you, David? Did you have to make a sissy? Did you have to make a BM? Do you hear us? We were just talking about relationships and love. I think I do. Sorry, Sarah.

Whatever. It happens. We were talking about pee and then everything. You sound like you're drunk. So it's like. Sarah, I'm so sorry that happened. No, I'm kidding. No, I, we had a situation here. I don't want the people in room 29. There was a. We're just talking about relationships and how Sarah's evolved and has a

a live-in lover and what how's that going uh you know I've been married for 40 years you know yeah to six different women but my point is this I say that every week my only joke I ever wrote but I I do think with mine it was uh conflict you know afraid of conflict uh

And then you bury the resentment. You're starting to carry anger around that you don't even know because you don't, is this the anthill I die on right now or should I let it go by? So both my wife and I had five years of therapy. So we're great. We were always good, but we're better. Yeah. I mean, that's what Rory and I, we'd always go like face value. I don't want to meet a relationship where I have to decipher what you mean by what you say or like, sure. No, that's fine. Oh no,

no, if I say it's fine, it's fine. You know, it's my responsibility to say like, I have a problem with that. If you know, and not go like, okay, you know, I mean, I just can't with that stuff. So we just go face value. Like,

What I say is what I mean, and that's how I would only expect you to take it. And it cuts out a lot of bullshit. If you get into a place where you're actually both trying to open the door for the person, and it's really organic, like I just really want to help my wife, and she really wants to help me, and we're codependent in a positive way. If you have a narcissist and an empath...

and they get together, all hell breaks loose because the narcissist can't help it. They don't know they are, and they start to harvest and use and abuse the empath. So where are you on that gradient scale in your mind? You seem like an empath. Well, the narcissist would say, I'm the empath, right? Okay. Maybe it's destructive though, too, but go ahead. You know that book by Alice Miller, I think it's called Drama of the Gifted Child. It's

It's big for us. So I remember reading it and I met with a friend for lunch and I go, oh, I just read this book. It's called Drama of the Gifted Child. And she goes, oh, I heard a really interesting story about that. It's originally titled Drama of the Narcissistic Child, but they realized the people that would need to read it wouldn't. So they named it Drama of the Gifted Child.

And then I was like a little deflated and also like it really made me go like, oh, wow. Yeah. But I would say just for myself, empathetic people can be dysfunctional and passive aggressive and people pleasing. Like I didn't even think that is self congratulatory. And we all have a combo. But I did learn in therapy that, you know, it's very, very good to.

try to get in touch with saying no and your inner narcissist. If you want some of that going, in other words, you draw boundaries. This is it. I won't take any more of this. And so it really helped me with that. That was kind of patterns from my childhood, crazy parents, crazy everything. So.

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You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony, which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Yeah.

Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, it, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, uh,

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. You want to- So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. It's funny. Somebody called into my podcast yesterday about sex workers, like just saying like, you know, I don't know how to feel about like porn and sex workers, like

they should, you know, do what they want, but aren't a lot of them have like really traumatic, uh,

pasts and, you know, and I, you know, I don't know the answer to this, but I was talking about it and go like, it's so funny because yes, they probably have common trauma, but so do comedians. So do actors. So do politicians. They have common traumas that drive them to want to do the X, Y, or Z, you know? Yeah. All right, guys. So, well, I want to mention Sarah Silverman's podcast, which I watch every,

And it's really fun on YouTube, you know? Oh my gosh. So you've been doing that like for during the pandemic, a couple hundred shows or. That's when I started. I was like, I couldn't do standup. I couldn't fathom doing standup on zoom. Like, you know, and then I was like, I, I, I'm going to have to do a podcast because I, you know, I didn't know where to put this or like to generate, even to like make a living is standup, you know?

Yeah. And keep your mind sharp by, you know, improvising and stuff like that. Yeah. I really, I like it. I mean, it just, the only thing about it is that it's never ending, you know, like I think I just did. You don't get a bunch of episodes and then take a month off or you're just consistently churning them kind of. Like I just shot this show and I had to take two or three weeks off. So, but what I do is I talk forever and then I,

They take out anything that can be evergreen and save it. So I do like stockpile stuff that isn't like from this moment. And then like when I go to New York to do the musical, The Bedwetter, which opens April 30th at the Atlantic Theater. Based on your book. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit. Yeah. One year. Yeah.

And, uh, BB Neuwirth is playing my Nana. Oh, she's incredible. I was thinking she's too old to play tan. Yeah, no, she's like a young, sexy Nana. And Sarah, you get calls on voicemail and then you listen to them and answer them. Right. Yeah. So, so, so we, so we'll bank. I like banked some when I did my last one, I did like a lot, a ton of ads, um,

The ads are a little soul killing, but like I do look through them and like if they really have a bad, like better business bureau grade or something, I say no, but I do a lot, you know, a lot of them. I kind of like to own them. I don't know why. It doesn't, it's fun to be a broadcaster.

Yeah, they seem fun. Remember when Johnny Carson would hold up Alpo and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. Just to go right at it. But it's really fun to watch that show. And your clothes change a lot, I guess, because they do edits. Because, like, you have a blue shirt on, and then they do a cut, and then you have a yellow sweater on and stuff. Yeah, because it doesn't matter with podcasts. Nobody cares. Mostly people hear it audio if they watch it on YouTube. Yeah, you'll see me in different outfits because it will be, like, stuff from this week, that week, this week, you know, like...

More evergreen things will just be from other weeks where I just go and go and go, you know. But yeah, the calls are like sometimes they're so sad. And I, you know, I have to remember, like, I have to try to be funny at some point this episode is like, but I also feel like I'm so sorry. You're, you know, grandmother. Sometimes you're just giving great serious advice, which is kind of kind of cool.

Yeah. It's funny because I like, I did like this more political show on Hulu and then I did a pilot for a political show on HBO. And I, you know, again, I'm like shocked when they don't pick it up. I'm like, what? I always think I'm putting gold in their lap because I like it, you know? And, but now I have no desire to do a play. I just want to do dumb, silly stuff because I've got the podcast to talk about whatever I want to talk about. And yeah,

You know, I just want to laugh. Big, silly stuff. That's just, you know, I watched the second Pink Panther because my mother-in-law was in town. Love slapstick with Peter Sellers. Revenge of the Pink Panther. And it was just seeing her laugh at 91 from Dublin. Belly laughing. Crazy.

And then I started to do it, you know? It's such a joy, you know? Those kinds of old-fashioned movies, just silly, big set pieces that are relentlessly... Everything that could go wrong does go wrong. And Peter Sellers with his whole thing. Anyway. It's like Super Dave. Like, he was like the... Yeah, he was. He was, for me, like... I never was really into physical comedy, but Super Dave is total physical comedy. And I...

He made me laugh so hard. Yeah. He was... You knew it was coming, but it didn't matter. It didn't matter. There's something primal about it, you know, falling down and stuff, you know. Yeah. My niece sent me a video she took of my dad. She showed him like a triumph, the insult comic dog like special. And he was...

thought he was gonna die he was laughing so hard the star wars one or the dog show i love the star wars one but it was like a political special he had done yeah robert smile strikes again oh my god yeah those are funny they're just so yeah man he's talking to the guy in the darth vader thing he's like what does this button do call your mom to pick you up that's the best one

All right, we should let Sarah go. She's been a good sport. She's got a big night tonight. I do? No, no, I don't know. I was just asking. What are you going to do after we finish this podcast? Lanny's coming over to see my house because I just bought my first ever house. Woo! Yeah, so he's coming over and we're going to have a little lunchy. And then...

Walk the dogs. Whatever. Let's end on ended earlier when it was better. You know, when I talked to Jonathan Katz, he told me a joke he had just made up and it was so funny. He said, you know, Sarah, I think we can all agree the worst people in the world are child pornographers. I go, yeah. And he goes, I think they should be prosecuted as adults. It's not like that's such a perfect joke. Yes.

All right. Well, Sarah Silverman, David Spade. You got a joke, David? No. I don't think so. Okay, ready? Here's a joke. He's always got something. I said it's the 90th anniversary. No, it's the 90-year-old couple.

Oh, no. You know what? It's their 60th anniversary and the wife wants to do something special. So she tells the guy to get in bed and she's got a surprise for him. So a 90-year-old woman, she goes in the bathroom and gets naked except for a cape. She puts on a cape and then she pops out of the bathroom and gets to the foot of the bed and goes, super pussy. And he goes, I'll take the soup.

All right. You got that one. All right. Sarah Silverman. Sarah, you've been a joy. A joy. Everybody loves you. Just take that to your soul. I was nervous to come on the show and I was listening and I wrote down something in case I didn't think of anything because I was listening. You're all talking about the Saturday Night Live and everything. And I had written one thing down, which is not that, but it's,

When I worked there, I was always in the fourth row in read-throughs, way in the back. And then I hosted one time, and you get to sit right next to Lorne. And I have a terrible sound sensitivity, misophonia, mouth sounds and stuff that make me insane.

The whole read through, Lorne is eating baby carrots. I was like out of body experience. Like it makes me like, I can't even hear and concentrate on anything. I tried to like slide the platter away, like without anyone noticing, he pulls it back. And I remember he would do that. And occasionally I'd say, what are you doing? He goes, he goes, Oh, what's up doc?

Sorry, Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny. Lauren doing Bugs Bunny. So stupid. It's that thing of like you're chewing. That's funny. Audio sensory, bedwetting, tactile, new live-in boyfriend, having fun. We said it all. We kind of did it all too. All right. Well, thank you, Sarah. We'll end it on one of these. All right. Thank you, Sarah. We have five endings. Bye. Bye, Sarah. Bye, hon. Bye.

Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment. Production and engineering led by Greg Holtzman, Richard Cook, Serena Regan, and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.

Rumor has it. Adele. I love Adele, yeah. What a voice. Johnny Byrne, your question was not about Adele, but you say, hi, David and Dana. I'm a 29-year-old comic from Salt Lake, not Mormon, who has been in Chicago for five years and just moved to LA. I'm sure you get this question a lot, but what advice would you have for someone who aspires to be on SNL? You know, that is a common question, but-

The only answer is, and I get the question a lot about, most about being comic is they have to find you. I think it's, there's no secret advice from me. Maybe Dan has more. He knows more than me. But if you're good, even other comics will help you get on other shows. Even people go, you're good. It's kind of a weird thing, but someone will say you're good and someone will say to their agent, maybe you should check this guy out.

And just getting stage time is probably my best advice as much as you can. Yeah. First of all, make sure it's a passion because show business will break your heart. They used to have people come to our college, San Francisco State. It wasn't a real college. And they'd be like a regional actress or did a couple commercials. The first thing they'd always say is, if you can do anything else in your life besides show business, do that. Only do that if you can't live without doing it. So first of all, you've got to have the passion.

Secondarily, you just got to live on stage. You got to either be a stand-up living on stage, working on your material, or go to the Groundlings or Second City, do all the classes, keep going, networking. But the main thing is the passion and always look at your feet.

don't look at I'm making it or I'll make it. Forget future tripping. Just like how good am I today? Am I a little bit better today than it was I yesterday? People say I'm going to do it for one year. This is free. I'm not going to charge anyone for this. People say I'm going to try it for six months. I'm going to try it for a year. If I don't make it,

what you do in that six months or a year, you're probably going to be a lifer, just so you know. Are you really going to go back? No. So you go, am I doing 1% better? Did I get one callback in this year instead of zero? I'm doing better. It's an emotionally violent sport. Even after you have success and you're in a big movie and it bombs or you're at a corporate date and you bomb. So it's just emotionally violent. It's also exhilarating. I told myself early on, I said, if David Spade ever gets on Saturday Night Live, I'll quit show business. Yeah.

That's how emotionally violent it is. I met David Spade before SNL and I wasn't on SNL. We're two civilians. Yeah. And now we're here today. Can you believe it? So I legally adopted him 18 years ago because people on Instagram are, is he your kid or what's going on? He is now. Hey, son. Johnny, thank you for that. And I hope that helps.