Sarah Sherman and Dan Bulla
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

Sarah Sherman, Dan Bula. It's not the best. Sarah Sherman, Dan Bula. Yeah, you can sing that one. No, that's a hard part. Dan Bula, Sarah Sherman. Dan Bula is a writer, producer of SNL. He also...

with Sandler, produces stuff with him. I think he did Ridiculous 6. And he plays the piano on all Sandler's specials. He writes music with him, writes jokes. He's funny as shit. And he's a huge writer on Saturday Night Live and he's bonded in a writerly sense with Sarah Sherman. So we had them both on. Yeah. And so this is a really, really good episode that gives an insight into how they're creating this very cool stuff they're doing on SNL. Sarah is one of the breakout girls that has been

very interesting she's got a mullet haircut looks like jane fond and clute she's very adorable upbeat uh dan bulla looks like donald sutherland yeah he looks like a cop from a 70s movie well that was from clute oh yeah i see i don't even get my own reference yeah but you had you had jane fonda and you had clute yeah but you know i think she looks more like leather tuscadero

I think she has kind of a young, energetic, almost, I could see, uh,

almost a punk attitude in a fun way. There's something about her. She's kind of nuts. I mean, we did. She's a little crazy. I'm like, because she's so confident, but then we'll find out what really is going on inside her brain during the show. She dresses in clown clothes, which is funny. It's hilarious to me. Everything she wears is hilarious, and she goes on tour right now, but we talked. You know, you get a little inside deets on

actually writing every day at us now, what's it like? How did they break down a sketch? How did they come up with it? How do they pitch it? How do they add to it? If it makes it, if it doesn't. And when you throw a sketch away. She's doing some stuff on update that's never been done before. That's really, you'll hear all about it. It's pretty revolutionary. And they think visually in a different way than we did. So what they're doing is very, very different.

And also just, yeah, she dresses in clown clothes and Sarah's big influences are kind of like shows that were on Nickelodeon in the 90s and stuff.

it's what you wouldn't expect but anyway it's going to be an interesting little listen for you they were a lot of fun it's kind of a different dynamic there's four of us talking so obviously dana and i were freaking out because we couldn't talk as much well actually for me it was kind of fun because i go can i interrupt all three of them in a 10 second period boom i interrupted you jumped on dan cut off sarah and i went that's the trifecta in my head when they're talking i'm just like

this doesn't remind me enough of a story about me. And I go, now it does. Here I go. Boom. I see on the Zoom, I see the single tear coming down your cheek. And I go, everybody quiet. Everybody quiet because I'm about to tell a story. Because Dave's about to tell a story. And I go, you guys are going to tell, you know who else was? And they're like, go ahead. And I go...

It was a stormy night. They asked you, did anyone, did you ever have to leave in the summertime and bring all your stuff back to California? Remember when they brought that over? Oh yeah, they said, because I used to have to. I used to, they wouldn't say I was hired back. So in May,

This is before Uber Eats and all the stuff you guys have. I would be like this. I'd have to get a mattress and just check out of my third story place. Take the mattress down, throw it on the street. Open the door. Everything, throw away. And then about a month later, we'll have you back. And so then I'd have to re-fly out there, stay in a hotel, get an apartment, get a desk, a pen, a bowl for my cereal.

It was real bare bones. Me in the summers, I would just look for bigger, better apartments, you know. I know. Richie Rich over here. Let's get a 20,000 square footer. Yeah, a warm buffer. And I'd see you on the bus hanging out the window with kind of a hobo stick with little clothes on the back. Can I get some suppins for me tuppins? Only became a superstar later in life, meaning at 32. Are we still doing introing now? Yeah.

Here's Sarah and Dan. Sarah and Dan, two of the nicest people you'll ever want to listen to and meet. Can I ask you a quick question? Like, we're going to get into Sarah Squirm and you and Dan and everything, but when you're growing up, what are you seeing that turns you on initially, like a cartoon or something that gets you into this path of whatever you call your style of humor? You have five seconds. Like Pee Wee's Playhouse and Ren and Stimpy and, like, I really liked The Nanny.

The nanny of all. As far as goth and sort of using grotesque things and all that, where'd that come from? Squirmish, you know? Well, like, that stuff is from, like, Garbage Pail Kids and, like, Ren and Stimpy. Ren and Stimpy. I'm going to check that out. Fucking Garbage Pail Kids, too, is funny. Oh, yeah. They're vomiting and stuff. My kids are your age, and so I saw all those, you know, randomly as I was...

People don't bring reference those as their comedy heroes as much as you think. I think it's kind of cool. Garbage Pail Kids. Now I'm remembering. Yeah, it's a lot of vomit and like puppets you could buy or toys that had vomit elements to them and stuff.

professors and goo and yeah and they're and it's funny it's like they're all like punny and like you know like cold cut is like a sliced up like ham hock with like all the slices have like different faces on it cold cuts cold cut funny it's hilarious well dan uh for the audience is writes on snl and works with adam sandler a lot and

I think you guys write together a lot. And what is it, Dan, of her, I'd say, quirkiness? I don't want to undersell it. But for Sarah to be such an adorable face with this crazy shit coming out of her mouth, that's kind of part of the appeal probably, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, Sarah came in the show like when new people start, it's always takes a minute to sort of get what they're all about and find their voice and stuff. And Sarah came in and like right off the bat was pretty obvious, like what her influences were. And just like I remember the first table read being like, damn, this person is fearless. You know, it's just wild energy. Just like it was immediately like this person, like,

Has it, you know, and has something to take and stuff. Yeah, I... Watching your stuff, you seem...

You don't seem to be ever pushing or trying. I mean, you seem like a veteran. The way you present on SNL is not normal for how soon you are into your tenure. Truly, there was one show, Dan can attest to this, because I get psychotically nervous and I really had to puke before the show because I was anxious. And so I took a Zofran pill

to get myself from Scott. Cause I, I didn't want to obviously whatever that is. It's like, it's like a nausea thing. It's like they give it to like pregnant women with like morning sickness so they don't puke their brains out. And I like needed it to act really fast. So I like to, I chewed up this like pill you're supposed to swallow and it turned my tongue completely white. And I was like, Oh shit. Like I have to go do a sketch where I'm like, the whole sketch is just someone saying something crazy. And I go like this, like,

But like, with my mouth open, but my tongue was white from chewing this like drug. And so then I ate a bunch of candy before the sketch to like dye my tongue a different color than white. And so like, I have like a bright red tongue during the sketch from like eating a bunch. In my head, this story is like awesome. No, we like it. We like the craziness of the show because

Your nerves come out in those crazy ways. I remember being in that eighth floor bathroom that's way in the back past Paige's desk, but going back toward the elevators and you can go way back and there's a bathroom there. Looking at my notes going, it's dead quiet here. Now I have to go out there and in 10 minutes, everyone will see me across the country. It's not like you film a movie and then it comes out a year later. You could walk off and the phone will ring and like, I just saw you.

And you don't have cell phones back then, so you have to wait and just wonder if it was any good. Very odd, but I'm glad you get nervous and you're not as cool as you look out there. But isn't it, you get that first laugh. Do you calm down at that point a little bit? Because that was big for me. I'd be so terrified. Then if I got a laugh, it took it down 20%. No, and then I come off stage. It doesn't matter how well it goes. I go straight to bullet. I go, I'm going to fucking kill myself.

There definitely have been times Sarah walks off and she goes, was that okay? And people are literally still laughing and clapping. Like it's not over yet. People are still laughing. You did great. I think we're all, we're all crazy. After Jewish Elvis, I thought I was going to die. I was like, I literally thought I was going to die and I was being crazy. And I come backstage and I'm like soaking sweat.

And you're like, that was great. And I'm like, I, you know, when I do that thing where I'm like, well, you're just like saying that because you're like trying to make me feel better because I'm clearly having a panic attack. And I'm like, everyone's lying to me. Textbook crazy. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about when people change their compliment from great to good. Sorry, David. Well, it's yeah. I mean, listen, that was good. You almost got a great and then they switch it halfway. I don't like that. That was great. Good.

But Dan saw that one, Dana. You see that one? It was what was it? Explain that sketch quickly, Sarah, because I think it was Austin Butler was in the front row, too, which probably made you nervous. I literally, yes. Doing all this in front of like actual Elvis, because I think that Austin Butler is actually possessed by the spirit of Elvis. Like, right. Right.

It is this generation's Elvis, so the people that didn't have the real Elvis, they've got one now. I think that's a very nice thing to say. I don't know why people think I'm... It's really Bill Clinton had a baby with Elvis, I think. So you didn't feel that went well, and you were especially nervous doing Elvis in front of Austin Butler? I don't know. I think I have like...

audience dysmorphia or something like where I literally sometimes I'm so blackout panicked that I can't hear laughs and so even a lot of times in stand up I'll be like on stage saying like I can't believe I'm bombing right now and you guys aren't laughing at this this is the funniest shit I could ever you know whatever and everyone's like you're not bombing and

There are some times when you, when not you, but when you're, anyone is doing their act and people are sort of smiling and watching and they're just not allowed audience. Cause there's like not one person has laughed loud. So there, the whole crowd has decided we're not going to go big on this one. We're just going to like it. And then you think you're eating it. And then everyone's like, I thought it was good until you told us we were bad and you were bad. And then they, then they go, Oh, I guess you didn't do well, but.

We liked it. And you go, oh, but that happens a lot. And I, we did the road, uh, uh, Dana, is it? And, uh, we were on the road and Mr. Carvey, if he was with San Madu, we went out with Adam and Bula, uh, works with Adam and they, uh, run this, uh, fun tour. And how did Sarah get on that tour, by the way, before I tell my not interesting story?

Sandler likes her. He thinks she's great. Can you believe something like that, David Spade? No, I think it was something else. But no, yeah. Well, I liked her and I saw her. I think the first thing I saw was your update where you were in Collins, maybe his dressing room or something. And then you were doing a live report from there. And it was very clever. And I was like,

Who the fuck this chick? And then I think I asked Bula or somebody. And then, and then you pretty soon after I saw you, you were going to be on one of the gigs that I was on and you were super fun right away. We had a blast. I had a blast. You wrote me a joke. Oh, I did. Yeah. You wrote me my, I'm Joe. I love it. Oh, do you? Oh, should we do it? Yeah. You. Cause I have like,

10 minutes. I don't know why, but during these Sandler shows in front of 15,000 people, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to do 10 minutes of big, fat pussy jokes. Oh, goddamn. That's right. That's what I would do. I think my instincts are bad. Anyway. How

How does his audience take those jokes? I mean, or is it... I can't tell. I think they're wrapping their mind around you because they've known Sandler for 30 years. So when newer people come on, obviously they like you from SNL. Obviously, you're a funny performer. And the stuff is so out of left field. You have to admit, it takes people a second just to adjust. Well, you have to admit it.

Once they get into your vibe, they love it. Like I would, of course we're laughing ourselves off the side because you're doing your New York thing and you're keep going. And I'm like, is she still going? And I thought how ballsy for, for this, when it's this big crowd and,

And you don't even know if they're into it or not. She doesn't care. It's just a blank slate of just going, they got the best pizza. Who's got the pizza? Screaming and putting her arm out and her head to the side. But it was such a cool style that once they buy into it, that's where you go to the next level. You're like, it's so brave of you to bomb and eat shit in front of 15,000 people. You know what was great is that you don't care at all that they weren't doing anything. You didn't care at all.

No, I'm up there doing my 7-Eleven jokes going, like me. Well, you wrote my favorite joke. You wrote it. It's, I've got so much old meat between my legs, I got to keep a silica packet in my underwear to keep it from going bad. Jesus Christ. Old meat between my... Well, Dana, I think we got there because it was already... I didn't get that joke out of the blue. No.

I got it right away. No, she does jokes about...

I said how I remember. I remember David coming up with that whole thing, the whole problem. And Sarah, have you ever talked about what's inside your pants? There might be something there. And here's a starter joke. Yeah, there's been there's a whole history of referring to one's genitalia in a derogatory way. Men and women. No, Dana, you don't understand. She talks about it.

In her act in front of people. No, I'm sure that couldn't be right. Anyway, Sarah, you are on the precipice. How do you spell that? Of being famous. And the audience will then give you even like,

My standup got so bad as I started getting paid so much more because I was doing no standup. So I was getting paid 50 times as much and I was terrible. So welcome to the future. But that are you pretty much if you play clubs in New York, don't they kind of go gaga at this point when you come out or have you turned that corner where people her I love her? It's interesting. You might have to have another therapy session.

I can't really tell. Like, I think because now, like, you get intro'd. Like, you know, coming to the stage, this person's on SNL. Like, people at clubs are like, ooh, like, I came in from Indiana to have a weekend in New York. And now, like, I'm getting, like, a nice little treat. And so you get, like, a little bit of a safety net with that a little bit. But you also, I guess, get, like, a higher expectation because people are like, well, you better do a good job.

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Or they think it's Chris Rock. You know, you know, from SNL. I know you get these intros that are too big. I hate it. Right. The intros were here. She comes fashioned your comedy seatbelts. I make them read my whole Wikipedia page or whatever it's called.

He was nominated for two Cable Ace Awards. Just get this fucking guy up. From 1986. Please welcome Dan O'Flarfo. I don't know how much time we have left, David. We have a lot. I want to get into these two's collaboration. Why don't we just take one at a time? I do think the Colin Roasting run is...

And the conceit of that, we could start with that if you want, was so jaw dropping to me. Like, why didn't anyone else think of that? The conceit of what he says. And then it's a news report. To me, that's just inspired. Like, when did that moment hit?

Somebody, whoever wrote that, that idea, or have you done it at some other theater? But it's such a great... I hadn't gotten anything onto the show. It was my first season. And Colin was trying to help me out. And he was like, let's get you on Update. That'll be fun. And I was like, okay. And I had tried other things that didn't work. And...

I was like, I guess I could just be mean to him, even though it was his idea to be nice and let me on update. Mean him is funny because it's, you're such a cute face. And the one I did backstage, what is that? Does it start with that one? And then you go, you were on update or were you always on versus I just saw the out of order. I had started, I had done two pieces at the desk and it was actually James Austin. Johnson was like, um, you like, he was, he told me that other, um,

people previously like years ago had done update pieces like remote and so initially I wanted to go into like a bathroom that was and go to a toilet that was filled with piss and be like Colin is this your piss it's really dehydrated

And everyone was like, oh, okay, haha, maybe not that. You know, I did one with Christopher Walken where they let me go to like, you know, 9th Street. I don't know if you're still there, Dana. I went to 9th Street in the snowstorm and I had him cover the desk for me.

And then he goes, throws to me live. And every time he throws to me, I can't hear it. And so I'm just singing. I'm like, I love it when you call me big pop. And he's like, David, what's the weather like? And I go, isn't this clown supposed to throw to me? And then all you can do is hear me talking like they do off camera and ask for gum. And he's just staring at me and he goes, I don't think he can hear me. I don't know how to do this. What am I doing wrong? And

And then we keep going back and forth. But that was kind of hard to put together because I was out of the studio. So are you saying you don't do anything out of the studio anymore? Or you were in studio in a dressing room, right? Yeah. A real dressing room or a set? A set. We wanted it kind of close because we didn't want it to look like a pre-tape.

You could definitely tell that it was... I moved from the studio and I walk outside to a fake dressing room set. So it was like...

Tricked me. So Colin Jost, the joke is on him. It's supposed to be his dressing room. And then what do you find in there? Just for our listeners. Well, I find like an intern in a cage. Intern in a cage. Posted on his mirror that say like, you're going to be the next Marvel superhero. And then I'm supposed to hold up a bikini babe picture of me. It was like a bodybuilder body with a bikini with my head photoshopped on it.

And the joke is supposed to be like, oh my God, Colin, why do you have all these pictures of me in your dressing room? And I go to hold up the picture. But during the live show, I like accidentally threw it. Yes. And so I went to hold up a big punchline and it was...

And then you kept going, but it didn't look like it was bad because I think I saw that one. It was still funny. Yeah, everybody afterwards was like, well, that's the magic of live TV. Anything could happen. I was like, well, it would have been funny if I got to my fucking punchline for the joke that we wrote. Was that your closer? There's a mistake and you covered it beautifully. I mean, then it's like so extra live, you know? That's the great thing about SNL. The mistakes stay in.

And Colin was laughing too, because he saw exactly what happened in the moment and knew that you were just going to be staring at cue cards like, oh, I have three more lines about this thing. You could tell he was really laughing. He's so good at laughing. It's awesome.

Well, he has a likable... He has a face that looks young. I don't know. There's something about his persona that's so gentle and likable and sort of conservative in a way. A brilliant writer, of course. But roasting him...

I don't know. There's a magic to it. He just goes, hey, it's like the 1960s or something. Hey, stop that. And you're accusing him of all kinds of horrible things, basically. The only reason the bit works is because I'm like, you're a pedophile and he's laughing and laughing. So it looks fine.

And also coming from you, all these horrible things is always funny because you don't see anything coming. Like the second you say something, there's a headline about it. That's that's a very funny. Obviously, Dana was talking. We were talking about that before we got on.

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that demented um well now how does that come boo and you think of this one of course i don't know i was well sarah and i had not really worked together she had asked me to write a live sketch with her and we had a lot of fun it didn't go and had some like technical problems address and it didn't i beat that i got too into my you know when you have a lot of physical things going on in a sketch that like

I don't know. I just like forgot to say my line because I was like, I have to throw a bunch of in the sketch. I had to throw a bunch of birds at someone. Yeah, it's like you do live birds. But yeah, like everybody, like live birds, real birds, like stuffed seagulls, right? Oh, I have one. But Sarah had worked with, um, yeah.

That's hilarious. A big seagull appeared. But Sarah had done those updates with the Please Don't Destroy Guys and with Celeste. And I've been working a lot with them. They're hilarious. And then we worked on that together and had a good time. And then Meatballs started because I was reading that...

children's books, scary stories to tell in the dark to my daughter. And it had this famous story about the girl with a green ribbon around her neck and they take it off and her head falls off or whatever. And I was thinking about doing something with that but that it would be fun if instead of her head falling off, it's like

something totally different and then yeah this kind of went there's a meatball for the audience at home there's a meatball living on her neck and that talks with a face and she's on a date actually the funniest thing to me sarah that whole sketch is how normal you're trying to act at the on the date you know how hard that was for you by the way yes that's why it's funny to me you're like yeah why this has been such a nice uh date with a gentleman caller i'm like who is this person

And, uh, and then he's flirting with you and then he asked you to immediately, he goes, what's that green ribbon? And then you hear music come up like eerie music. And you're like, oh, I was hoping you wouldn't notice. And then you pull it off and there's a meatball and you're like, I hope this doesn't ruin anything with us.

And he's like, no, well, yeah, it's weird. And then you have like 11 meatballs on your body. And it's played out so nicely because I watched it twice because I really was sort of fascinated by it. And of course, you and Chris played it so real, which was great. And then the escalation, by the time you get to the piano under the armpit, like it kept, it was paced so beautifully, like, okay, they've got one meatball.

And then the catchiness of all the singing over each other, you know, and you had the throw up. I don't want, we're giving the whole sketch away, but it doesn't matter. And then, and then how do you finish it? And then you have the twist with the kiss. Don't want to give it away. So it's like, it's kind of what I call it. Sort of a perfect sketch. Yeah. It just landed perfectly right on air. I mean,

with the pre-tapes and I'm really ticklish. So, uh, when they were gluing the, the meatball into my armpit, it was like, it was like Guantanamo torture. I know how to not be tickled. My doctor just told me, uh, last week, just a regular physical. If someone's tickling you on an arm, put your hand on their hand and that stops the tickling.

It's the fear of this. You're like doing it to yourself somehow. And he was tickling me. And then I put my hand on his hand and it didn't tickle anymore. We try to educate her tickling you. Well, that's a it was a double appointment. It was from 10 to noon. We got bored.

You go, no, it was a tickle fight. We were both doing it. Well, because he's doing the thing, cough, cough. He's grabbing my back, breathe, this and that, reaching for lymph nodes. I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And he goes, that's what happened. It wasn't illicit, no matter how much you wanted it to be, David. My doctor laughs and he goes, oh, my God, you have cancer. I mean, you have cancer.

It's worse when he's laughing. It's better when he's laughing, it sounds funny. That's hysterical. No. So you did that, which I knew, I was guessing Bula was involved in that. Well, Bula wrote the, that was all Bula. Like, we had not really worked together much and he called me and he was like, I have this good sketch idea. And I was like, I don't think I said good sketch idea. Yeah. I was nervous about it. No, you said great. Yeah.

You said, if you say you don't say no now, I'm picking up the phone and calling Chloe right now. It's just yes or no. You got two seconds. I'm in. I'm in. I don't know what it is. I'm in. Once you saw people in the meatball prosthetic or whatever or how they're keyed in, you must have started going, okay, that's really fucking funny. It felt good. I remember at the table read, it was so musical and it had all these overlapping things.

And I was nervous about like, whenever you do music stuff at the table, it's always, you have a host who has to learn 40 things. And then you're trying to teach them a song and hoping you're going to remember, you know, you do Oscar Isaac. Yeah. For Oscar Isaac. What is Oscar Isaac in? Why don't I know that?

Star Wars. You don't have to lean all the way into the camera with that one. She creates her own close-up. That's brilliant. Listen. Oh, that's one of those. How did that song build? Did you write that overlapping on a keyboard? Yeah. So I did like a full demo of it that night, like Tuesday night, probably like three o'clock in the morning where I did all these parts. And then, yeah, taught the cast how to

how to do it. Jesus. For read-through, you had to try to tell them? Yeah, they kind of nailed it at read-through. Do you go over to the piano? Is there still a piano in read-through room? Eli was playing piano. Yeah, I don't. You're like, Eli, I just have so much going on right now. Can you just cover this part? I have to deal with the cast. Deal. Yeah, but the music all synced up. But yeah, when we saw the prosthetics, it was awesome. Who sang at the last... Who was the last woman to sing...

In the armpits? Yeah. Charlie XCX? Charlie XCX, yeah. She was the musical guest. The musical guest? You got her face in a fucking meatball? Singing beautifully. Oh, shit, I love it. Check it out on YouTube, everybody. You have to go to the publicist. Hey.

Does she want to stick her face in the giant meatball? I mean, just run it by her at least. And the publicist is like, I think she's just so overwhelmed this week. It's probably not the week. Any other week she would do it. You're going to be in the armpit on this one. It's a good spot. What? This is the mic drop of that sketch. It's a closer. Yeah. Also, what about the babies in the crib, Dana? Do you see that?

I don't know if I got that far. It's a one when I was on the road with these. Okay, let's break that down. So it's basically, was Selena Gomez the first time? Yeah. So Selena was a host who's great. And then she's got a baby monitor, but she's trying to have a, I love me explaining it. She's having a couple people over while she's babysitting, right? Yeah.

Sarah, you just tell it. Are you off book? Do you remember it? Yeah, I am. And then she goes, and she has the monitor out there and you hear, and she goes, oh, and then they look at it and it's a really funny visual of two babies in a crib with like a, not a black light, but you know how that, like a night vision with the white eyes of two little bald babies and

in a crib and they're kind of rolling around and then and she goes they're fine and they keep getting noisier and every time you cut i don't realize it's a whole nother set and they're live it's sarah and who else is it yeah address yeah yeah so funny though bolla had a baby congratulations and sure sure and he showed me that he could like on his phone

He has a baby monitor app or whatever on his phone. You can see the little kid rolling around. Like a ring app, yeah. Yeah. So then I was like, okay, that's a sketch. And it was fun because...

able to like play with scale really crazy so like make me and bowen look like two little bald babies we had to build a giant crib with giant teddy bears to make us look tiny yeah that's really funny yeah because i didn't get that that i thought it was a pre-tape and then you went on the road you said oh yeah no we're in the other sketch and no wonder everyone's laughing so hard because you're over there acting ridiculous and then you're rolling around and they go oh they're doing this now and then

You're like doing somersaults and jumping out, doing stuff that babies can't really do. And hilarious. Well, we had we had two sets. So there was like the set that. Oh, there's a whole other set. Yeah. So Selena was one set, which is like a living room. And then on home base, we had this giant crib.

That was like to make them look proper baby size. But as you're cutting back and forth, like Sarah and Bowen would run out of the crib and like break down or like acrobats would like come in and do like flips and then run out. And Sarah and Bowen would go back in. So it was like,

When the camera was off, we would, or Sarah would run out and a full-sized Sarah dummy would go in and Bowen would be swinging. Oh, he's swinging around. Yeah. I think it was Selena saying, hey, we can have some beers. It's all good. And they go, I think you should go check on these kids. And they'd be doing something so ridiculous. She goes, no, no, they're fine. And then there was like another kid in there. Yeah. Post Malone. Yeah. They're like, hey, there's someone else. There's another baby in there. She's like, oh, there shouldn't be. Yeah.

no real reactions and then uh post malone or whatever yeah we did we did another installment of it i guess this year where it was like on the two babies on a sonogram and so we have like cecily as the gyno with the little like uh whatever sonogram wand yeah oh right right okay

And it was cut to me and Bowen inside the womb. What was that set? It was like a whole... That entire thing was like a full green screen circle. And the floor was green and everything. So we were able to make it look like an ultrasound. And then, same thing, they would like...

Bringing in props where they're on pogo sticks and stuff. They ran out and we had break dancers come in and it's always nuts. Yeah, I do like that because you don't know what's every time you cut to there's going to better be another cut. So do you guys I mean, this is this is what Lauren Michaels would probably call it's it's fresh.

There's been elements of this sort of style of comedy you guys are doing, but you're accelerating it. It seems very fresh. It's new. It's what the kids love. So are you... It feels really fun to write for this kind of comedy visual with giant effects and props. I think you guys are more focused on that because I have a couple ideas for the rest of the season.

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Well, I just like incredible shrinking stuff. Like what if Lauren, you accidentally for real shrink Lauren. He's like six inches tall, but he still has this Lauren genius brain. It doesn't matter that I'm tiny. I still can run the show. He's always getting stepped on.

by cast members. I don't know. Yeah, it's like Ant-Man. Well, I love visual comedy where if the sound broke, you would still love the bit. I love that. You know? Ant producer. I saw Molly. I saw a lot of Molly last week.

Was she difficult to work with, Molly Shannon? She's so difficult. Truly one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. Yes, human niceness 10.0 and physical form. You know, I was bummed, Dana, that she wasn't at the Mark Twain, Adam Sandler event.

fawn fest because she is so great and she's such a great speaker. And she, what are you pointing at Sarah? Did you miss me? I think in this, in that context, I did miss you cause I always do. But I think Molly is so good at speaking better than most of us that, uh, she's so lovely about it and selfless. And then there's selfish me, uh,

So it's good balance. But she was at the spillover party that was two weeks before that we talked about once. By the way, Sarah, just so you know, sorry, Dave. I like to interrupt. David has been talking about you on and off for months and singing your praises. See, Sarah, see? Even though you think when you do this whole interview and it's over, you're going to walk out and light up your cig and go...

He said, I bombed on a Sandler tour. That's all I heard. And I didn't say that. I said, you're too smart for half of them because they have to get into your comedy. And then once they did, then they're really all the way in. But when you're doing different stuff, it's not served on a platter. You know, you have to think of it a little bit. So I was watching from the side.

And you're bombing with me too. But that's because I'm not smart. I don't get it. But later. It's only 10 minutes, right? Then Adam does three hours and you guys are in the back waiting or something. I know. He destroys. He walks on stage and flicks a cigarette at me and goes, Spade, keep it to six tonight. I'm like, six minutes? Everybody.

I got my pocket knife, man, my wallet. Dan was in on that one. No, but Dana, we do the show. Sarah, my real question is, how did you handle the midnight dinner after the show? I don't know how Dan does.

What do you, what meant I didn't have to go on the road? Oh, on the, with the Adam Sandler game. Yeah. You guys go out to dinner, right? I know. Only times I've been on the road. There's just like, that's a barbecue backstage that everyone like horks down. And then that was, I think that bullet taught me about horking. That,

That's a bullet. Horking's when you spit, isn't it? You hork up a loogie? No, I think that's hawking. No, that's hawking. Hawk up a loogie. No, I think I wrote in a sketch once somebody's horking down something like a farm animal and Sarah was like, what does that mean? He said horking down asparagus like a farm animal. Oh, I like that. From our sketch that never saw the light of day. That's a read-through trick or Schneider would go, trick!

Because if someone laughs at the description, he goes, Trek, no, that's not a real laugh. Don't count. Trek laugh. Have you guys ever shocked each other where like you pitch something to the other one, the other one goes, whoa, slow down, man. Come on, that's too far. I don't think so. Or there are no limits. It's whether you can get it on the show, right? Is there been anything I've pitched to you that you're like, no way? I don't think so. In terms of, I don't think she's ever pitched something that...

it like makes me feel like, oh no, I would never do that. I think like we do really think, you know, we are trying to write for the show always. Like it's, it's not like, maybe you think it's not comedically might not work. Maybe. Yeah, for sure. Or it might not be like the host doesn't have a big enough part or not sure if it's producible in a week or things like that. But you know what? I, I stuff will happen. Well, I'll, I'll just say something that I think is,

I'm just pitching it to get energy going and I won't even think anything of it. With the eyes, I'm like, what if it's a sketch where I got my eyes replaced with googly eyes? And I was just saying it thinking it wasn't possible. But you, then Bola starts all of a sudden, he'll just start riffing and a whole sketch will get created. But I kind of said it like I was kidding, but you were like, oh, that's a legitimate sketch.

Yeah, for sure. It's hard to it's hard to tell what idea is going to kind of. Well, do you go to makeup and say, if makeup can do it, we should try to do it. If not, let's not waste our time. Right. Well, Louis and makeup will make anything happen. It seems so. They do anything. Yeah, that's true. They never want to turn down anything. They want to really try it because they get bored, too. Totally. And he I mean, he is unbelievable. Talk about like a superstar.

He's never once told us it's not possible. He'll push it further every time. It's awesome. And could we get his full name? Sorry, I don't think I've met him. Louis Zakarian. He's the makeup effects guy and he's so awesome.

yeah the roller coaster we did a sketch like that i get stuck on a roller coaster for 100 hours and so my face is like blown out like my hair is blown backwards and my mouth is blown permanently open and so like on a monday so like on a monday i was like i said to louis i put that like dentist uh what do you call like a mouth speculum yeah it opens your mouth or something

Yeah. So I said to Louie, I'm like, is it possible to build a prosthetic that blows my mouth open? But like the speculum you use at the dentist has this like plastic bar that goes under your chin. So like,

I asked him, I'm like, is there a prosthetic you could build that doesn't have these extra plastic bits so it can look like it's part of my face? And so we pitched it to him on a Monday. And he's just like, we wrote a sketch around him being able to build a mouth prosthetic that works. You know what I mean? And is he at read-through?

Yeah. Are those guys that read through aren't all the departments. So it sounds, I don't know, just maybe as a jealous ex-cast. I love the world you're working in. It just seems really fun. Not easy, but really fun. These big visual elements and having the subversive dialogue or whatever you're doing with it to get it not just a visual joke.

I love it. I want to host now or guest spot so I can be in something with Sarah and Dan will write it with us. Couldn't I just come out for one sketch anytime in the next five years? I still look pretty good. I mean, come on. I still look pretty good. Dana looks really good.

But it sounds like so much fun. And I had a connection with Bonnie and Terry Turner and also with Robert Smigel in specific and others, Al Franken politically and Jim Downey. So it's very nice. It's a kind of communication, a friendship you guys must have.

of having this similar sense of humor and sensibility. It's kind of magic, isn't it? When you find someone like that, I'm sure there's others you're connecting with on the show, but Smoggle and I would just, I'd come in and start doing Regis and he would immediately start picking it up and we just start going. So with you guys, was it, was there a moment kind of like, holy shit, light bulb moment. We're going to, we're going to be friends. We're going to write a lot together or just sort of happened. When, when Bulla, I'll, I'll, I'll,

when Bulla called me and was like, oh, I have this meatballs idea. I was like, oh my God, I feel seen, you know, because the show is scary because it's, you know,

it's a live show in front of millions of people of course it's scary and you know I went from doing like crazy like performance art comedy to like doing network television comedy and like it so it was a scary kind of transition for me a little bit and so like the second like like Bola was like what you know what about this crazy thing I was like oh my god the

You know, whatever. I'm like not explaining that well. Thinking out of the box. Yeah, for sure. It's different. Writing is really hard. Writing takes so much intellectual, emotional energy. It's exhausting. So just we've all experienced a great writer handing us something you now have with Dan.

And it's like, okay, that's awesome. Are the other writers jealous though, Dana? Do you think that they're like, can I borrow him? Well, Dan, do you have any, do you like to be on camera? Have you done performing yourself? I used to always, like when I came up, I was in Chicago doing sketch comedy and improv and did all that. And then when I moved to Los Angeles was still doing that. Now I don't really, I mean, I'll perform with Sandler on the road and be on stage with him and do all that.

And he always puts me in movies and stuff. And I love it. I like that. But really, I don't, I don't, it's not like I'm sitting here with aspirations to be a cast member at SNL or anything. Were you kind of successful just out of, right out of high school or something? Have you just had kind of a,

A lot of success throughout your career? When I was out of college, I didn't really know what I was doing. I was working as a sports writer in Chicago and my friend John Greenberg, who got me jobs working for the Associated Press and covering the Chicago Bulls and all the professional teams there, he was like, I'm going to take a writing class at Second City. Do you want to do it? And I was like, sure. And then really fell in love with doing that and

Yeah, I don't know. But I was like in L.A. with nothing going on when Sandler like... Did you grow up middle class or what was your home life like? Grew up outside of Chicago. Where did Sandler find you though? You know, he had just signed his first Netflix deal.

and was looking for movie ideas. So I had a meeting set up with him to pitch something. And then he was also looking for music for a benefit he was doing or something. And I sent him a demo for a song.

He really liked it. And we met up and really hit it off and then just kept talking and I kept sending him songs. And we just, I heard right that you wrote this song called, Oh yes, where it goes like this. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes. Not, I don't remember that one. And that was it. And you go, do I need to keep going? Well, it must be fun writing with Sandler and music with Sandler because he loves it so much and is so great at it. He's the best to work with. And he truly, like, I mean,

I was living in a crappy apartment with my wife in LA and wasn't working professionally in comedy at all and totally scooped me up and saved my ass. Um,

I still talk to him. I mean, I talked to him for half an hour this morning on the phone. He's the greatest. I owe him everything. You saw it to Mark Twain. We all gave our props. He's just such a unique guy, you know, and to know him is to love him. Anyway, so Dan, so now that you've gotten rich. Dan has a good disposition and a good temperament. So I think it's good when you're a performer, you're a little crazed. I know I am. Sarah's a little bit at him where I am.

Oh, I hide so much cirrhosis from the world. This was just survival instincts for my childhood to be this guy. Yeah. He's a calming presence. So I think he takes it in like a machine and takes in the ideas and sort of puts them back. But Adam, I think from what I see, will want to write after the show, write on the plane, write at breakfast, write like anytime. He never stops writing.

Yeah. And he's just always driven. So you gotta be ready. I see Dan beat up on the road because he's going to sound checks then, you know, you're traveling in style, but you're still traveling. It's different times on it's freezing. I think we were in green. We were in Greensville was South Carolina. That's when I started feeling crappy. And then, uh, that might've been, that might've been the spare ribs, uh, pork night, I think.

because we usually go straight to dinner from the show and it's a three hour show. And then you go straight to a dinner and I didn't see Dan over in the corner slumping going, we got to get up and fly to another city and just start over. And, uh, I get to sleep a little more, you know, everyone gets a little more of a breather, but he's, they beat him up, you know, still performing and you got to perform for two hours out there. Could you be a road monster, Sarah? Yeah. I was just going to ask you about, Oh,

Would you be a road monster if the people, the 10 percenters go, Sarah, we can book you every night for the next six months. Do you want to do it? I mean, or would you temper that a little bit or do you like it? I will go anywhere, everywhere, all the time. Perfect. Right now, right?

uh yeah yeah on the hiatuses i do a lot of shows too but i wanted to sing dan's praises for a second one more time yeah please please do okay so like you know we were just talking about i because you know you're talking about dan's temperament and like you know good attitude or whatever and so we're doing all these crazy sketches where it's like crazy production and like the the sketch where i have googly eyes for eyes they had to like

So I'm basically, I'm fully blind because there's googly eyes over my eyes. And in order to give me like any vision at all, like, uh, Louis, the effects artists like drilled little holes in the googly eyes, but because,

but my eyelashes would get caught in them and my eyelids would get caught in them. So they basically had to like tape open my eyes underneath the prosthetics, like clockwork orange style. And I'm, so I'm getting like literally put into this like jigsaw torture, uh, goggle helmet before going on live television, like totally wigging out. So scared. And I'm like in the makeup chair, just like,

spiraling and then I just feel Bola like right behind me he'll like sneak up behind me and go like you got it buddy you're a rock star you got it you know like he's really good at that like it's like

Or like the rollercoaster sketch where they taped over my mouth. Like they had to spray my mouth and teeth with water so that my throat wouldn't dry out during the sketch. And like Bullet just comes up behind me in the makeup chair and he's like, you got it, buddy. Earwax time. It's over in 10 minutes. I like that. Can I just say three minutes ago, I thought you were referring to me, David, when you said Dan's temperament. So I responded to it. Oh, okay.

thinking you were mentioning me. You do have a good temperament. But I do think Dan has a very relaxing, nice presence. Well, I mean, Sarah also sees how I am fully crazy intense too. I mean, I like...

We are rewriting things a million times. I'm never willing to accept it when it's like 90% of the way there. So I'm not the easiest person to work with. But Sarah's worked with, I mean, everybody here loves working with Sarah. She worked with the Please Don't Destroy guys a ton. They've had some big hits, like the Six Flags thing was awesome. Those guys are really funny. And Celeste, like we talked about. I mean, across the board, people love working with Sarah. I've worked with, you know,

When I started out, I was working with Stephen Castillo, another writer here, and then I worked a lot with Pete. But I think when Sarah and I really started when we started sharing an office and working really closely together, it's like Lauren always says, you know, like you find your people here eventually at the show. And I know that was true for you guys. And there's comfort in knowing like, OK, we're going to come up with something. We know how to talk to each other. We know we have a shorthand together, and that's really helpful.

Helps you get through week after week. And you both are tough, tenacious. I mean, if Sarah has to overcome her stage fright and land it and not have it affect the performance, I don't see that at all. But the fact that you can control those nerves and then Dan is a tenacious writer. That's what you need. All that tenacity and toughness.

But it's very sweet. That's what I'll take away from this podcast. He comes up behind you and says, you're a rock star for a performer. That's great. Baby, it's always the same thing, right? Baby, you got what you got. It was with me at dinner. He goes, you can work this. He whispered behind me.

It looks like 30 ribs, but you can do this. John Lovitz would do the opposite, though. Before I'd go out really nervous on the sound set, he goes, you're going to destroy. You're going to kill. I go, John, don't. It's a jinx for comedians. He's trying to jinx you. Don't ever say you're going to, you know, you'll destroy them. Dana, I have another question for you.

I know they got a big day. We'll let you go. It's either Dan or Sarah. You know, this one's for Sarah. Okay. It said she was a screenwriter on jackass forever. That's so interesting. How crazy. Where do they find you for that? Um, cause I used to, I wrote with Eric Andre a lot for like the Eric Andre show. And Eric knew, knew that I was like a huge jackass fan. Um,

And so when they were like looking for writers to just like pitch ideas for the movie, Eric, it was like a make a wish. He was like, come on, let's get Sarah in there. Like make her day. She gets to meet Johnny Knoxville. How fun. And you're like, they go, and what are my balls doing this sketch? And you're like, well,

Well, I showed up to the writer. I literally worked there for like six hours. I was so excited that I showed up to the pitch day with drawings and diagrams of crazy stunts. And everyone was like, oh, okay. That's cool. No, that is cool. That's very thought out. I love it. I would love that. We had Johnny on this podcast. Remember what happened to him? It was like he had a number two pencil up his thing.

For two years. Johnny. Yeah. Yeah. And he's saying it with a smile and he's totally relaxed. I'm like, what? He's like, I have to pee out of my mouth now. We're like, why, what happened? He's like, Oh, it's such a long story. That's all. Yeah. I put my head in a meat grinder, but it was a really funny sketch and we kept it in. Anyway, I hope they're safe. That thing. Boy, I'm a nibbler Dana. And I think you are too, but you always know me that I just have to keep the energy going. Um,

And I think because I learned from my dad, pistachios are a good source of just, you know, nibble, wake you up. They're always delicious. I actually named a character in a movie I did called Master of Disguise. The lead character's name is pistachio. That's how much I love pistachios. Yeah. Well, wonderful pistachios have literally come out of their shells. It's the same taste. It's delicious, but...

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The mile? Whoa. Were you a champion? I was like pretty good. I like a little over, I think it was like 530 mile or something like that. That's good. That's very good. Yeah. But I think being a champion

I don't know if you feel this way, but like being a high school athlete, I think somehow I got like ruthlessly competitive or something from that.

I think that's like helped here. Yeah. I'm always psychotically competitive. Dennis Miller and I would talk about it because he would sometimes, Carvey, I had schadenfreude for you. Okay. Which is a German word for taking joy in your friend's failures. And I go, Dennis, I have it for everybody. I mean, it's just, it's like the rubber hammer on your knee. It's a reflex. The little kid inside you reflexes.

You don't actively sabotage your peers, but you want to beat them. And that's just the way the human brain works. But yeah, I mean, when you got into comedy, did you feel like, okay, now I'm a sub five minute miler. I mean, like I've now where I really belong, you know, that feeling like maybe I'm going to do this anyway. I had like, I always wanted to be a comedian, like since I was like a little kid.

And like, it was like one of those things where I like, it was so dramatic. I like quit the track team to like go be a tree in the school play. Like, you know what I mean? Like,

I think I just happened to be good at running, but I was like, I don't care if that'll help pay for college. I want to go have zero lines in the chorus of the musical. Your parents are like, running's going to pay for your college. Oh, your daughter's on Saturday Night Live. That's great. She was a really good runner. I don't know why she gave up. Do you think you could beat Lauren in a race? Not a mile, but like a 100-yard dash.

Honestly, no. He could beat me at anything. I was the mile and the two mile. And whoops, the three mile. Oh, Dana. I heard Dana. Everyone keeps asking me to tell you or to ask you that you won some

You won something running. I was okay, but there were better guys in front of me. And once I figured out I can't beat those guys, we had a 410 miler on our team, you know? Oh, God. And it's kind of like, oh, okay, I see what that is. So I was running 427. Whoops, how'd that come out? But I was like in eighth place. Wow.

I was in 10th play, you know, cause that was the running boom back then. But there's one thing I've had. That's like being at SNL, like the great runner. And everyone's, you're like the 10th funniest guy. Yeah.

But I just want to do these quickly because we have just a few more minutes. And you guys have to get... I wish I had a better pitch than your head goes giant or something. I got one. You know, they say you're going to have a date with a guy. You're going to be for a date. Yeah, he's really nice. He's this, he's that, but...

He can't keep it in his pants. Oh, really? What do you mean? So he comes in for the date and he literally can't get out of his pants. And then you introduce a product called a hooter clamp.

Which it goes around. It's like a chastity belt for guys who cannot keep it in their pants. Okay. I'm getting this fucking incredible team smiling. This is so flattering. He can't keep it in his pants. And Dan, there's a song there. He's a nice guy. He makes a lot of money, but he can't keep it in his pants. That brings in the hooter clamp. Anyway, just a thought. That sure is wrong with it.

Before we go, do you do a Lorne impression? Everyone seems to have either one word or one thing. And Lorne loves it. We love him. Rod. I don't and I wouldn't dare. You're allowed, Sarah. Well, ours is not derogatory. It's mostly about his giant brain. I guess mine is for the listeners at home. They're going to be disappointed. But it's this. If you guys want to describe it. It's when he looks at me like this.

What is, why would he look at you like that? It's just pierced lips, chin down, eyes up, sort of a knowing glance. That looks more flirty. I do, one of my Lorne's is the motorboat Lorne. When Lorne is making a really good point and you accidentally interrupt him, it's that thing of like, you know, when people, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And it's like an outdoor motor. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know.

There's something. We'll take that. You have too many pitches. People turn into motorboats. Like Obama would be like an outboard motorboat. Michelle, I'm starting it.

oh no no no so it's like people turn into human outboard motor boats sorry i'll be out there next year sorry i can think of right now to tell that i think is was funny as i was during dress rehearsal you're under the bleachers sitting as a writer if you wrote the sketch you're under the bleachers sitting next to lauren while he's watching it and he gives notes and gives on a big television yeah yeah and uh

I had a sketch once that absolutely bombed and like a, I'm sitting there sweating bullets. It was when I was really new and gets absolutely zero absolute death. And at the end, I'm just dying to get out of there. He's not saying anything the whole time. And, uh, at the end, he just turns to me and he says, they'd be drinking white wine, not red. Cause it was like, it was,

It was like a brunch. And I'm like, this is a sketch that has no... That's the only thing he can think of to say other than like, well, this has zero. You're like, I don't think we need to worry about what the wine is as we're cutting it. It's 50 years almost. And it is an amazing personality to hold the show the same. Like David and I talk and you guys...

Obviously, we know what it smells like there. We know the elevators. We know walking into 8-H on a Thursday. We're like, the show's Saturday? It's really fun to talk to people currently doing what we did. We've had a lot of alumni, but you are currently in there. So we'd like to bring you back in another month and just call it pitch hour.

And we just try to get David and I just try to get stuff on the show through you. And we don't even need a credit, but look, I call you boo. I think I call you the wrong name this whole time. That's all right. Everybody in the Sandler world world calls me Bula. Everybody here calls me Bula. Look at this. Who's that? Oh, can you see that? Who was that? David Spade? Man Brooks. Oh yeah. Adam's first album. I got a picture. Yeah.

Okay, favorite, where we go? Favorite movie all time, just blink. Or a movie that you'll watch again.

And again, it's not my favorite movie. OK, but you'll watch it. For some reason, I've seen Scorsese's Cape Fear one million times. And I rewatch it over and over again because for some reason it comforts me, even though it's one of the most deranged. Brilliant, brilliant film. Brilliant. Dan?

That's so great. I don't know. I couch it because best is, I go like a movie you will see as an ulterior way to think of it. Alternative. Yeah. This might be my favorite movie. Body Double. Body Double. Is that Melanie Griffith? Wow. Yeah. How about Body Heat? Anybody? Body Heat? Pretty good, right? Yes. Body Heat is good. I remember...

When I was little, I wanted to watch the movie Heat, and my mom brought home Body Heat from Blockbuster. Oh, no. And you whacked all of it. Oh, yeah. Sarah, you do have a good voice, I have to say. Good voice. I have a great... I have a grating, awful voice that... No, it's very interesting. ...much of the SNL... I think...

Well, my problem at work that I'm working on is that I scream too loud. As you quietly say that, you go, I scream too loud. You just catch yourself finally. I kind of was noticing how nicely articulate and your volume was up because it's a rock and roll. It's not jazz. A lot of times SNL, there's ambient noise,

unless you're in the cold opening, which is eerie by yourself, five seconds and then everything's quiet. But throughout the show, there's movement and noise. So you kind of have to project more ways than one. Dan. But I, that the learning curve is that because from standup, you think you have this, you know, I'm performing in like a back of a bar in a barbecue restaurant over a football game. So if I'm in a room performing, I have to scream. Yeah.

Yeah, spend there in the cowboy bars, the honky-tonk, show us your dick, and then a beer comes by your head. Those are terrific nights. I enjoyed meeting you both so much, and Dan, now I know, I have a comprehensive view of you. Yeah. So, I hope I wasn't a dick at the Mark Twain thing. Oh, no, not at all. Hey, give me a D chord, bitch. No.

Dan was dodging people to ask him to help with their 80 comics. You have to speak. And he's like, Dan, who didn't ask you me? You did not ask me. I didn't ask for help from Dan, even though we were all shitting. But I want to be. I actually said to David, I'm like, you're one of the only people here who didn't ask me. And he said, yeah, I went to Jim Downey. Did I go to? No. You know what? Downey. Dennis Miller gave me a joke.

That got cut. I did the shortest Dana and I got four jokes cut. How embarrassing. Wasn't I the shortest? They cut out my Trump and my Dennis, right? Oh yeah. You had Dennis in there. Mm hmm.

Yeah. Well, it was, everyone got hacked. They cut 90 minutes out of that. I don't care. I'm glad San man was happy. He was happy. He's laughing. I mean, you can't get any better than that. It's like after a while, it's embarrassing. Like every show is like, we're working on another thing about Adam, how great he is. We're like, got it. Oh, quickly, Sarah. Oh, forget it. All right. Um, let me do my David's freedom. Oh, great. Great. Okay. I'm very quiet.

Okay. Oh, sorry. I have to take this. My Rolex is calling. Hello? Are you applauding your own show? Thank you, Sarah. That was nice. We took a selfie on the road too. Wasn't that fun? Sarah, you remember that? Yeah. I said, come on, David. Let me wear the big Rolex.

I'm going to get together with Dan, you know, behind the scenes over the months and say to Adam, so yeah, I'll just open for you and then do an hour of just singing and dancing and well,

Can't do everything. There's no way Adam can follow anybody. No, Sandman rules the day. He crushes. I love the way he does his stand-up. It just feels so relaxing. I might see you on another one, Dan. I'm trying to get out there again with you guys. I told him I'd get out there, but I'm just trying to... Sarah, nice to see you. I'll see you guys later. Enjoyed it. Tried to have fun today at that meeting. It's kind of nerve-wracking, I find, a little bit.

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