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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

Hey, David, how are you? So, Dana, what's on the docket today? Rob Lowe. Robbie Lowe. Rob Herbert Walker Lowe. Rob Jimmy Jim. Rob Lowe is so interested in everything. And his career, I think he's our manager's favorite because he's, no one works like Rob Lowe. I can't even keep track. And he does have a show now.

Stories I only tell him, he's got a one man show. He's like a stand up. He's on our turf. Yeah, it was just in Palm Springs. He's the hardest working man in show business. This is the new one because he does everything. He's like, I have three podcasts. I have three TV shows. I'm going to be on Top Chef. You're like, oh my God. I know. He's going to have a baking show, I'm sure. Yeah, he's making a bouillabaisse as we speak. But you know, he's got a strong chin, which is sort of enviable. Good hair. Strong chin, good hair. Because to me, when you get older-

Unless you have that, you know, kind of like Mitt Romney look, like Superman's dad look with the big chin and the short neck. You have two choices. You can either be a pirate or a cowboy. You can either be Steven Tyler or Jeff Bridges.

But you got to be either a pirate or a cowboy unless you have a strong chin. Yeah. Because I did a movie with Burt Lancaster once and he goes, how can you be a movie star? You don't have any chin. It's kind of true. That's true. Yeah. I don't have shit, dude. I'm going for a little scruff after seeing you make your headway with it. We're turning into the same person. I know. I copied your haircut and now we're doing this podcast.

Well, it's funny because, you know, Rob, when he did Tommy Boy, we had one of the big fights in Time Boy, which wasn't with Rob. It was about Rob. Really? Because Farley, we flew in after SNL. We had to go back and forth. It wasn't like the new days where you can skip shit. We were back and forth and back and forth to Toronto. And then one time Farley wasn't feeling good on the plane. And when we landed, he goes, all right, we got to get up at 530.

So I said, all right. And so I landed and then Robbie Lowe was there and I go, oh, you want to grab a beer or something? He goes, should we call Farles? I go, no, he's not feeling good. So the next day we sat in makeup and he was just, and Farley was glaring at me in the mirror, you know, you bank shot, you know, sitting next to him. The bank shot. And he's just licking his lips, which I know is trouble. Yeah. And he goes, how's Rob Lowe? How's Rob Lowe? And I go, are you saying how's Rob Lowe? I don't know. He's all right. Because you had dinner with him. He wasn't there. Not even dinner, one Amstel light. And he goes-

You're out with fucking Rob Lowe. You don't call me. I go, are you out of your mind? I go, you were sick. Remember, you were fake sick. You went to bed. He goes, you still fucking ask. I would not want Chris Farley to be mad at me. I know. And that's what we got in the great tuna stepping fight when he stepped on my hand. Woo.

Oh, yeah. It was all hilarious. Yeah, you guys should, yeah, physically, that's not a match. But Rob's good looks are like kryptonite, and they weaken us, and then we all wanted to hang out with him. Well, Rob told me once, because when he came on SNL the first time, the church lady, he was going to come on church lady. Mm-hmm.

And he told me once, he said that right before we go to, because I had to kind of lock into the character who's really mean. He goes, he looked at me, he goes, I thought you were going to kill me. I was like, because the look in my eyes, right before we start the sketch goes, this guy's going to murder me.

He did it a couple times. He said he was really happy with it. He loves it. He's done three hosting jobs. And anyway. He's also the bus boy at Garcia's on weekends. He's chatty. He's fun to talk to. And he will just go anywhere you want to go. And he is fun. He's very entertaining. He knows what he's doing. Writes books. Yeah. Looks at the newspaper, if anyone does anymore. Takes his shirt off, even when no one's looking.

Just because he looks good. No one knows what, you know. I'm fighting to keep mine on at all times. I'm cut. I'm cut. I have girls go, if we have sex, there's no way you can keep all your clothes on. I was like, I mean, we can try.

Well, the problem is when you get older, if you get to a weight where you're cut, then you get more wrinkly upstairs and it's called a raisin head. It's an actual thing. Like if you think of Clint Eastwood like 20 years ago, he was kind of built up, but he was a raisin head. So, you know, like if you're kind of chubby or fat, then you just don't, you're not, you have no wrinkles. It's a trade-off. But if you want to have a 28 inch waist at 70, you're going to be a raisin head. I don't want to be a raisin head.

All right, here comes a non-raising head. Here comes a non-raising head. Robbie Lowe. The definition of aging well, Mr. Robert Lowe. So, Rob Lowe, so you're in pretty good shape. So, do you ever think to yourself, like, if you're out with your wife or whatever, somebody's making some noise, maybe you might have to physically...

fight a guy, an adult human. It's so weird you asked me this on the way into the studio just now. No. I'm not kidding. There was some guy kind of creeping in the parking garage and I was like, I might have to fuck this guy up. And then I started doing this whole thing about like,

Could I do it? Would I do it? Should I? I had a whole drama play out in my head not five minutes ago. Jesus. Well, you're saying in Los Angeles, in a parking garage, there was a freak...

roaming around yeah that's not unheard of no it's it's unheard of isn't it in one of our big cities that there might be somebody up to no good maybe looking to fakes i mean i love the walking dead i didn't think i'd be in it on a daily basis in west hollywood these guys coming out of alcoves with their all the going like this it's like jesus christ outside the polo lounge it looks like something from the

purge this guy's doing a smash and grabbing my chevy manza i'm trying to buy a head of lettuce at gelson's i got the mummy behind me coming in with the claws out you know jesus christ these girls walking with their knees walking backwards i'm like where the fuck am i so anyway you but you're very physically fit is what i was saying dana i have a question for rob

Okay, good, go. This relates, this is just a good random question that relates to what you're saying, sort of. Have you ever been punched in the face? When was the last time you've gotten punched in the face? I was kicked in the face. Whoa. That's good. Kicked in the face with a steel-toed boot. That counts more, I think. Nice. Matthew Modine. That's good.

That fucker lets get him. Matthew Modine, I always knew that guy was a prick. I knew he hated your guts. No, I know. The people get competitive that are host of SNL. You were like, it was this crazy Hallmark movie. No, what happened? For the rest of your career, it's like, who's got the best episode? But you hosted three times. But I was reading your book last night and you punched...

Tom Cruise in the face. I punched, I punched Cruise in the face. Punch, he also, but he practically knocked me out. Of course. Why do I love that? It's, well, cause I'm, well, Matthew Modine kicked me in the face in a stunt gone wrong on a movie called Hotel New Hampshire. Broke my nose. The director was so mad at him. Director didn't like him much anyway, but the director was so mad at him that he,

he revoiced Matthew's character with another actor. Shut. What revenge? That's revenge. I found him very affable when he hosted the show. Don't you dare. Don't you defend him. He is the nicest person in the world. That's what I was going to say. I don't understand why the director had a thing for him, but he did. And he's the nicest man. Have you ever done a movie, Rob, where like halfway through the movie, you're

you realize that you weren't the director's first choice and that he or she actually resented you? Well, worse. I had a lunch meeting. That's a good question. I had a lunch meeting where I realized halfway through the lunch meeting that

That they thought I was somebody else. Whoa. So I was just. Who do they think you were? They thought I was Matt Dillon. Matt Dillon. Oh, funny. And it was a meeting with Danny DeVito. And I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there. I walk in. They thought Dana was Danny DeVito.

I walk in and I see Danny DeVito and he gets all excited and waves me over the table. I'm not there to see Danny DeVito. I'm there for my own other thing. But he's all excited and I've never really met him. And he's pointing at the table going, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's all excited. And we sit down and he starts going in about this movie and this project and things. And I'm like, wow, this is cool. What an unexpected gift. But then over Danny's shoulder, I can see the street.

And I see walking down the street over Danny's shoulder, here comes Matt Dillon. And I realize, oh, he thinks I'm Matt Dillon. Oh, wow. And then, so I'm waiting for this awkward moment, which of course happens where Matt comes and goes, hey, what are you guys doing or whatever? And Danny has to like get out of it. I'm Matt Damon. That's a bookmark impression. Matt Dillon. Oh, sorry. God damn it. Go ahead, Rob. They thought I was Val Kilmer. I was testing for Amadeus. And he kept calling me Val.

Val, and then when I walked out, Val Kilmer walked in. I did test for Amadeus because at 26, I could play 18. So I'd go in the room, I'd see Eric Stoltz, I'd read for Risky Business. Shut up. Wait, wait, wait. You tested for Amadeus? Yes, I did with Mr. Milos Forman.

The thing about Milos is he's Czechoslovakian and it informs everything he does. Wait, so- It informs everything he does? Yeah, hilarious. It's the thing about, you know, it's that thing of like, you know, you're Czechoslovakian, but you don't really want to be. You know, the thing about the Czechs is they don't, they grew up breaking rules. Ha ha.

It's these random. My favorite recent Lauren thing that I don't know if you guys have heard this one, but he comes up with these things. You don't know where they come from, but it's so specific you have to listen. So we're talking about funny people in the world and this career path we've chosen and stuff. And he said, regards funny people, he goes, there's only 900 of us on the planet. Yeah.

It was kind of seemed like kind of the right number. You know, I wanted to do, I've talked about it before. I wanted to do a coffee table book or a, a, at least a Twitter book.

of lornisms and i tried to get i tried to get amy poehler to do it and she was she was so down and she's like he'll find out it's us and i was like who cares i think lauren likes he doesn't care yeah rob and dave what's your favorite lornism oh i because i have a couple that are very eccentric i i have do you have a yeah i'll go first um

would you like to go for a walk? And so I remember telling Lovitz I was going to go on a walk with, with Lauren. He's like, have a good listen. Yep. I remember that one. And so it's this long walk through the woods in, in, uh, in Amagansett and it's quiet and we're just walking and walking. And Lauren goes, um, you know, there's nothing more violent than a tree. Yeah.

And I said, what? He goes, he goes, what about Amber is trying to kill that pine? What? Was this out in Amagansett? Yes. There's nothing more violent than a tree. What are the fucking trees like out there? Yeah. See, I'm not in there. That's the name of the coffee table book. Nothing more violent than a tree. I mean, it's like Game of Thrones out in that forest. It's poetic. It's a theme, I guess, because the other thing was, I remember I was building my first house.

And I was just, you know, sort of talking about the, you know, like how, what a hassle it is and what I should choose and whatever. And Lauren just goes, you know, as you get older, you find yourself being drawn to wood. I never got that good of ones. He's like, and then the last girl sucks this week. And then the last, the last one is, uh, my, uh, Cheryl, my wife was pregnant with our second child. We knew it was a boy and I was, we were really, really struggling with names. And,

And Lauren's kids are my kids, same ages. So we shared that and we'd talk about stuff. And I go, yeah, we're thinking about names. And I go, yeah, we're thinking about this. We're thinking about this. You know, I find the King's names work the best. Yes. Yes. I like the King's names. James. David. King James. The Lord is. Charlemagne. The God.

One of the classics that everyone probably has had at some point is him pouring a glass of water from a bottle and doing a really long, tall pour. He'd say, never underestimate the value of water. Oh, 100%. I've seen it. Yeah. That's a great one. I never thought to underestimate it. Well, that didn't make what I said very interesting then. Please don't correct me when I'm doing my truisms. No, no, no, no, no. You didn't misunderstand.

Oh, you've seen my Lorne Michaels starting an outboard motor? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

By the way, is it REM sleep or REM sleep? It's REM sleep. I think it's REM sleep. Yes. So, Lauren having REM sleep? I always heard this was your bit. I always give you credit whenever I do it. Oh, I don't. I remember Bill Hader on one of Conan's last show did...

A really funny thing of Lorne falling asleep on and off on the flight. And when he would sort of come to consciousness, he would just say a celebrity's name and he's falling asleep. Yes. And then he would sort of wake up and go, Steve knew that I was... That's what it was. Lorne... Paul... Mick. Yeah.

That was the brilliant Mr. Bill Hader's bit, and it was so fucking great. It's hard to come up with a new angle on the pantheon of Lorne impressions. David, would you fly out and do a few minutes of Gap Girls before they even start the show? For the 50th. I asked Mike recently, I said, are we going to do Wayne and Garth at the 50th and-

Would they do a wide shot? And can they get it high up on the crane? Maybe a couple of fills. Rob, you know all the tricks. Can we do it from Cleveland? Maybe Bezos would let us use his rocket to shoot it from. It's called, it's cotton and Vaseline on a lens. It is. It's an old candy Bergen trick. You know, I think it's called a cheesecloth lens. Ha ha ha.

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The thing is, I know, Rob, sometimes people say you're good-looking, but I feel like two things. I'm overlooked for being good-looking. They don't talk about it enough. You're very youthful and youthful. I feel like... Eternally youthful. Youthful. He's 37, Christ's sake. Christ's sake. Nobody wears a trucker hat more aptly at 70 than Spade. Let me tell you something. I hate hats and trucker hats. I'll tell you two secrets. I hate hats.

I hate hats, but I hate my hair more. So the only thing good about looking stupid for the last 20 years is that my forehead isn't that trashed because there's no sunbeams on it. That's right. And the other thing is I hate this mustache and whatever that is, but I'm worse without it. So it's really a- Wait a minute. Why do you say you're worse without it? I don't like it. And then- Why do you not like it? Why do you keep it? Do you feel like you don't have a chin? You want more of a chin? You want less of a chin? All of it is such a blank slate. I have no-

character in my face it's just people pass me by and no one talks that's that's me i have no voice you have a voice that's recognizable i have no voice and no face perfect for someone doing characters i'm completely neutral there's nothing here but i realize now that i'm in my 60s you guys are in your early 30s my face started to recede into my skull i mean you lose volume and

so then i had to start to wear glasses it's like the invisible man and sort of a little bit of i'm just filling in a shadow otherwise i would disappear in this zoom we're using i know and then the beard gets gray and so you're like now nothing i'm nothing i'm just i know why yeah why do i have to go white on the chin everyone goes white snowy on the chin i still have a lot mix up here and i don't like that i like also dana that you and you

Both of you have your hair dialed in, you know it works, and you are going to ride it all the way to the end. Well, I may need a little help. I need some graphs. He looks like he could shoot St. Elmo's fire reshoots today. That is the exact same hair, St. Elmo's FUD. I've seen it a bunch of times. And I heard your hair was gray, and I'm like, I wish you would just do his gray hair so we could all trash him. But then I go, he'll fucking look better, and it'll backfire on me. So don't do that.

I'm obsessed with men's hair. I could do a whole podcast on men's hair. Really, truly, I could. Well, then, can you discern the tricks and sprays

And what I'm doing up here to hide the fact that my head is like a game of risk. I have so much territory and only so many soldiers. So many troops. You got to get the troops up front. You got to move them all up front. But I'm all for grafting. They just said I needed someone to donate grafts for me. So I mentioned Rob Lowe and they go, Rob Lowe?

Yeah, we'll call him. Even his pubes will take anything. Well, let's go back to Rob Lowe and show business. The thing about Rob Lowe, if I may call you that. You may. Is that so he's incredibly good looking and funny, which is a combo that's kind of rare. And that's how Mike and I got him to do Wayne's World. And we were thrilled when we were in shocked that we could get Rob Lowe. And then Kurt Fuller was also great. You had a funny...

you had to play something a little different. So that could have gone wrong easily. When people say they want to be funny in movies, it's like, oh, I can be funny. It's like when a host comes in, you know, Dana, that's always a kiss of death. They go, I'm really funny. And everyone in the room panics. Yeah. Because you don't really know what that means. And they're like, yeah, they go, I can do this. From my friends at a party, I'm on a gas. So, you know, what they ask you to do, it's like being in read-through or something.

it's kind of hit and miss you're like oh i can kind of play this one time they gave me horse shack and i was nervous and then i go mr carter and they're like oh okay always go with a little bit of love it's basically a 1947 character actor and then woody you know it goes on the read-through but uh back to wayne's world like they're giving you something that isn't

Typically, I think hilarious is just it was up to you to take the writing and doing it a good way to make it work, and it worked. Well, it was a great juxtaposition to Wayne and Garth having Rob, and he did a lot of very dry, droll, dismissive lines. The disdain that he had for the two idiots on the soundstage was great, and then you're foiling Kirk Fuller, who was the kind of nervous wreck. So you guys were like a team of...

And every single line landed. Every single thing out of your guys' mouth was this great juxtaposition with us. So anyway, it was a very, very cool thing. I loved doing it. And you guys were so funny. And what I realized afterwards, speaking of Lorne, is that Lorne wrote...

Yeah.

Yes. It was all those kinds of lines, which just had its own frequency throughout the entire movie. You were going against everything. We're all going, which we're putting on. And then you just have these little droll, dry lines. I remember when I did the, on the very first day, they

They were doing a flow beyond Garth's head. That's right. It's the beginning of the movie. Yes. So I didn't know anything about anything. I was just kind of doing Garth. So I was sort of screaming. I don't know why, but with the hair thing going up. And I remember the late, great Bernie Brillstein pulled me aside. He was our manager at the time of all of us. And really sweet man. And he goes, you know, kid, in film, you got to play kind of small. Totally.

I'd take it down a bit. It's like, I'd go, it's a little late, Bernie. Take it down about a million percent. So those are, I have such great memories of doing that show. Unbelievable. Well, that was kind of, I think that SNL and then into that movie was another like reading your Wikipedia page.

And your book, just all these twists and turns. And then that was a turn at that point. Like Rob Lowe can do comedy, you know? Yeah, that was, and I, there are really two people to thank for that. And that is Lorne.

And then Mike, who I will remember in the, you know, as you come in on the, the host comes in and meets with all the writers. And I remember him going in to meet everybody and sitting. The first time I saw Mike Myers, I'll never forget it because he had a Michael Myers poster behind him from Halloween. Yeah, it was his whole thing. Yeah. And, um, and he was like, do you want to do a Wayne's world sketch or sprockets? First time I hosted. And I remember thinking, I hate that fucking Wayne's world thing. I want to do sprockets.

That's ironic. Sprockets. So we did Sprockets. I didn't hate Wayne's World. I really didn't, but I loved Sprockets. And so, and that kind of went from there. And then I was lucky to be surrounded by people like you guys, you know? I mean, you're only as funny as the people who are around you. Well, that movie, because the second one, we didn't quite get the...

Well, it didn't achieve the same thing. It kind of made fun of itself. Like, in the first movie, we're making fun of corporate commercialism, you know? Yes. And then the second movie, I walk into the lair. It was Wayne and Garth's little hangout area. And it was a $500,000 set. It was one of the most gigantic, gorgeous things I'd ever seen. I was like, what? But...

You know, as you know, I haven't done so many movies and things. Just when something works, you know, another one of Lauren's thing, you never leave a hit, right?

You know, that's another one, right? Yeah. Which is true. But the Wayne's World one was 36 days, 12 million bucks. It was kind of tossed off, not a lot of coverage, light on its feet. Yeah. And then it just captured something. And the second one has great stuff in it too. So people love it. But the first one has a certain magic. One of the most incredible things I've ever seen was going to a test screening of Wayne's World on the Paramount lot, invited audience. They didn't know what they were seeing, had no idea what it was.

And they loved the movie from the very, very beginning. But when Bohemian Rhapsody came on in that car and you guys started doing the head thing, the theater literally exploded. The people went berserk. I'd never seen anything like it. And I have a theory about that. Go ahead. Because we did a Zoom with Josh Gad and Queen and Brian May and everything and we were talking about that. One was when I saw La La Land three, four years ago,

it's underestimated, at least for me, remembering what syncopated movement with human beings, how potent it is. Yes. And so on Wayne's World, you start it out and they're grooving, then they go off on this operatic thing. So they leave the beat for so long. Nothing really matters. Goes away, way, way. And then...

It kicks in Bohemian Rhapsody and we kick in with it. I mean, there's a reason when I see it now too, it's like, man, that is potent. That is so potent. And we didn't know it at the time. No, nobody. And I also love the story that, that Lauren again, kept pressuring my, don't you think it's a little old, that song?

And he goes, "What about Guns N' Roses?" Or whatever the hit was. And it was like, no, this is what the song is. Well, Mike was brilliant. And that's part of his gift is he really, he can pick up things and go, "Wow." And he really wanted that thing. We were gonna get out of the car, do a whole dance around these steps and everything, you know? Really? Yeah, we were gonna do a whole big thing, but budget and time. But for me personally, on a very minor note,

when Garth does his dance for the Dream Girl and he does Foxy Lady, I was doing What's New Pussycat

But then Lauren said, Steve is doing it in Father of the Bride. You might look for something else. So then came up with the Hendrix one, which worked out great. And that was Kim Basinger or who was that? That was the, no, no. Kim Basinger was in number two. That was Donna Dixon. Okay. Who's married to Dan Aykroyd. I didn't see either movie, but okay. I saw Tommy Boy. Ah.

Wait, when you... Oh, I got a question for Rob. Okay, one last thing, Dana. I like that you give Freddie Mercury a lisp that he doesn't have. Nothing really matters. Nothing really... Did I give him a lisp? You really give him a lisp. I mean, listen, the guy was not...

the most macho guy to begin with, but you made him super fake. Well, in that movie for trivia people, I did not have my lyric memorized. I didn't know we were going to go that long. And so at one point, Garth is just moving his mouth, but not really singing the words. You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony,

which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, yeah.

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. Here's a question for Rob. Rob, you have a career of a lot of movies, the dumbest set up.

You were in Wayne's World, Tommy Boy, and Austin Powers. What do people know you from most on the street out of those three? What are the three choices? Tommy Boy, Wayne's World, and Austin Powers. 100% Tommy Boy. Wow. Well, I'll tell you what is weird. Nice. What's weird is in, again, the Lorne article. This is Kennedy Center, Lorne Michaels, 50 years, Washington Post. They give...

three movie credits. The first one is Tommy Boy. Ooh, what else? Wayne's Wrong. And I don't know why that

I think, well, I think because Wayne's World is so, Wayne's World is, it's you and Mike. That's Wayne's World. I mean, that's literally Wayne's World. I think Tommy Boy, you know, when people think of it, they think of, you know, the three, you know, you and Furley and me. I think it started with Warren. It's an ensemble, yeah. And it's more,

I mean, those guys had written Wayne's World and maybe it's because Lauren said to that Bonnie and Terry Turner, why don't you write a movie about how Spade and Farley are around the office? And then because as we've said, that's backing your way into a greenlit movie instead of saying, hey, let's go pitch a movie about brake pads in Ohio.

You know, it's not like the funnest idea for a movie. So it would have gotten passed on. So going in it with just saying, do it about these guys. It happens to be about that. But that was never the focus, really. Yeah. And I remember a version, not to make it about me, but we are playing tennis with Lauren and Bernie.

And I think Lovett's and, um, Lawrence, you know, I have, I have an idea. Paramount's working on, I don't know really, but it's you and Chris's brothers.

And I was like, so it was like a twins, like an Arnold DeVito. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. But that was all it was. That was six months. And then Tommy Boy was written. So there was a little of that in there too. Well, A, you did a good job. And Tommy Boy was a really fun shoot. But when we were doing it, and Bo Derek was your mom, who was a sweetheart. You know that great story, right? We're like, we're going to get Bo Derek. We're going to get Bo Derek. And she's 10. And she shows up with Annie Lennox's hair.

She cut all her hair off. Oh, my God. I'm trying to remember. Did she have a wig on? She had her hair shorter than mine right now. She literally looked like Annie Lennox. That's what general meetings are for. That's why you see your actors before you hire them, and we were not happy. And John, Derek, didn't want her going back to be a big movie star again and said to her, you know, I think you'd really look great with all your beautiful hair cut off, and she did it.

She was stunning. I mean, what happened in the movie? Didn't she have short hair in the movie? Yeah, she looked, by the way, she still looks great. I mean, there's nothing wrong, but like, Bo, listen, but by the way, Bo's never, ever had short hair other than that

four month period where she shot that movie in her career grow it out yeah yeah yeah she hustled to grow it back to hair again we have reoccurring themes here and i like it well what did you think about kevin costner walking on the set for the movie the bodyguard with whitney houston with the steve mcqueen kind of almost crew cut which made mick jackson crazy but it worked i didn't know that but that's that's a great move

Best hair in a movie star. We're not including Rob in the last 30, 40 years. Best hair. I have a guy in mind. Shit, that's tough. Well, I'm going to go probably, I don't know if you'll include him in the last 30 years, but it's for sure got to be Redford.

Oh, yeah, that's cool hair. Yeah, I was thinking Richard Gere more because of the way he flips it and then he makes it a thing. But Redford had great hair. I've been watching American Gigolo. It's been on American whatever, the AMC, whatever the hell it is. And, you know, I'm shooting my show and I'm in my trailer every five seconds and that's on. And it is American Gigolo is amazing.

amazing to watch. If I watched it within the last year, yeah, it's just a great movie. And he's a real... That was right around the pocket of Officer to Gentleman, like right when he's fucking crushing. Do you know, are you... How do you feel about Redford, Robert Redford? Because I...

I have this sort of theory about him that he is arguably, if you take it by the, a movie star in who was in the most great movies,

in film history since the talkies, since the 30s. I always pick Redford 'cause I keep coming back around to, and people never guess Redford at a dinner party. They go all these classics, Brando and Nicholson, whatever. Cary Grant. Cary Grant was amazing. But when you think of Butch Cassidy Sundance Kid and Three Days of the Condor and The Way We Were. The Natural. The Sting, The Natural. The Natural. All the President's Men. There's just a period

of time and of course he directed ordinary people and ordinary people so anyway that's my theory about redford just wanted to throw that in for you like fans i could not agree with you more i mean just those that you tossed off there are ridiculous there's three days of the condor is just three days of the condors are my favorite movies of all time i i saw it when i was too young i didn't understand it um you should watch it tonight rob were you

First of all, how many times have you hosted and how scary is it walking out for the monologue? I've hosted three times and- Can we talk about the first one first? I mean, because that would be the biggest fear, I think, right? Yeah. And what was your monologue about? The monologue was, so I kind of got gypped out of the greatest thing that can happen to you on SNL, which is, you know, it's like being shot out of a cannon. Like when they say, roll!

And the orchestra's going crazy. The audience is going crazy. It's so loud in there. It's so loud and it's electric. And I didn't have that because we had, my monologue was predicated on the audience hating me.

Oh, so that was the joke. The joke from the minute I walked out that the joke they were told do not clap to come out. Rob needs to come out to crickets. How do I not remember that? So I so I didn't ever get that until, you know, you know, the second and third time I did. But doing the show is I've always said I would.

I would have loved to have been on that show. I would have, it would have been a dream. I would have been a dream to me to do what you guys did. A dream, an absolute dream. I grew up watching that show. I would have been fucking static to have had that been my, my career being on that show. I think it was Al Franken that it just observed after you host it or something, you know, it'd be really nice to have like a really good looking cast member just as a person to put in different move in different ways, along with character work, um,

But yeah, he told Mike and I that. Mike and I were like, what? What about us? So you did Arsenio Beckman, which I was just looking up that episode. It's so fucking funny. Oh my God, I forgot about that. And the way you played it, everything about it. I know it was a Robert Smigel is one of our best writers of our generation. Yeah.

Maybe Odukirk was in there too a little bit. But that is supernaturally funny. It's on YouTube.

It's Rob playing Arsenio Hall, but it really is just to the amped up environment of all talk shows and the sycophant-ish patronizing laughter. And it's so funny. It's called Arsenio Beckman with Rob Lowe on YouTube. That's not when the crowd goes crazy, is it? Well, I also like it's also the- Yes, at everything he does, they go nuts. The deterioration of any ability to ask a cogent question. My favorite thing about that was-

I think my guest was Linda Blair of all people. And Smigel wrote that my very first question was literally, it was like, so I heard someone saying something about you and,

doing something yeah what's that all about like it's not not a question at all no it's just like what's up and then the crowd they had a really good shot of the bleachers and just people going insane we had actual dummies each other up in the air and actual dummies that were yeah going yeah and then the original in the table read that people were supposed to eventually be on fire

But we couldn't figure out how to do that. Because then later on, I got to do Carcino. So there was a lot of Carcino. There was Enio's. Well, you know what it was? Is Lorne had a thing where he didn't want to go after-

certain people so by adding the enio it was like oh well that wasn't arsenio hall rob was going i was arsenio beckman yeah that's why that that's why that that's exactly why it was because it was written as arsenio hall and and lauren changed it to our so you you're it's your first time doing snl you're on a live sound stage you're out there and it's crushing and

And knowing your journey to there and all the stuff in movies and the outsider story, everything. I mean, you must have been just feeling incredible at me, right? It's such a rush. That's a sketch. Killing and everyone's yelling must have been a rush. To be in a good sketch that works, it's not always the case.

It's so fun. With all possible humility, I will say I am super proud of the three SNLs I did. They are all super good. There are memorable, iconic moments from each one of them. Some of them I'm not involved with. We have Al Gore going, lockbox. It's in a lockbox. Yeah.

I did. I did. Did I tell you about the time that I went up though? I like, I fucking, I forgot their cue cards there. So it's hard to fuck up, but I was doing, remember Mace, Phil Hartman's character. I'm a bad, bad apple running to the car. I was doing a Mace sketch with Phil and it all built to a joke. And I, and, and I fucked up.

I fucked it up somehow. And we had to ad lib our way. Like, fucked up so badly that you could see the cue cards. You could see Lauren and everybody. The look in Phil's eyes. It was over. There was no way to end the sketch. There was no way to end the sketch live. Did you go ahead in the sketch? Did you jump the card in a way? I reversed...

It was the kind of thing, he had a punchline that was predicated on me saying, I can't do something. And I said, I can do something. So he literally can't say his line now. So the premise is completely. So I fucked up the premise of the punchline. And I ad-libbed a punchline and it got a laugh when we got out of there. And I actually think that's the moment, actually, where Lauren was like, I want to do more stuff with him. Because he came backstage and was like,

where there is houdini well there he is oh my god there's no one funnier than lauren in a way i mean that's why we're all doing lauren all these years there's no one by the way lauren is funny we always joke about him i want people listening to go we fucking laugh at lauren there's a reason he runs the show he says funny fucking shit at dinner and really really funny and you go fuck i forgot this guy is so funny

Okay, this is my last Lauren one. By the way, you can cut all these out if you don't like them. We love them. This is the best. So apparently he was being interviewed by somebody and days and days, you know, following Lauren around. And the guy says, so I have to notice that you have a lot of very famous, important people in your life. Are there any just regular people in your world? And Lauren goes, well,

I know you. So good. Lauren, this one I've said before, I think we've on this fledgling podcast, but see what you think of it being someone who came from humble background and all that normal, which I feel is our gift. And then with our children, they have a celebrity and money at whatever level it is. And so Lauren said, yeah,

regards this. He goes, you know, you and I were raised in the wilderness and we became civilized. Our kids are raised civilized and we expect them to go out into the wilderness. Very Lauren. It's very brilliant though. Yeah. But it is very brilliant in a very simple way. If it's not exactly the way you might use those words, but yeah, civilized.

What you need to remember about Dana is he grew up with mismatching furniture. Dana and people from Montana. I've said this before, but I still think it's worth telling you because you'll laugh. Lauren's under the bleachers during the show. He's got the monitor, right? He's watching and critiquing the show. Maybe it's the dress show. I'm out there doing Bush or Churchley. I'm just vamping it up. You know, and Lauren said, he's a fucking show pony. Yeah.

He's a fucking show pony. Which I love that. See, everything we said about Lorne, we love Lorne. And so, you know, it doesn't... It's just... We've never met anyone like Lorne who says stuff like that. The worst is... Go ahead. You know, there was a moment where he was... By the way, just about... What's about to come out of my mouth makes me laugh. He and I were sitting in my jacuzzi. And...

He was doing that thing where he eats his little finger. Do you think Mike based Dr. Evil on me? And he's literally doing the finger thing in his mouth as he's saying it. And I was like, no. He would bite his nails, you know, especially on Wednesday when we're trying to pick the show. And that's that night, by the way, and this is all SNL related stuff.

So long story short, Rob and I end up having dinner with Lorne at an Italian restaurant in Santa Monica with two of Lorne's assistants. So two things are funny. One was that this was the first time I actually did my Lorne for Lorne. And then Rob threw in his Lorne. And yours was a very funny thing. You said, Jan's light in the show. Yes, I was just like, yes.

But I started doing Lauren for Lauren and he didn't take offense to it because it was just him on the Wednesdays being frustrated, looking at the board and not liking the cards or the sketches. I still have no fucking first act.

And that for me was my end to Lorne in 1986. That's a real statement though. It's not even like a parody. Yeah. And then I got tapped out, which I've talked about in this show a little while ago about John Travolta. I'm doing him on stage in Denver as a comedian. And then the guy you're doing is sneaking up behind you, but you don't know it. So someone taps your shoulder, you're thinking you're killing. I'm going, I don't know Mr. Carter. And it's like that. And I look up and it's John Travolta.

But the same thing happened that night and you saw it. So Lauren asked me to do the Paul McCartney story of staying at Lauren's house before I was on SNL for a month and

for his assistant. So I'm really doing Paul. I'm going into it. Oh, doing this. You know, we got to do it. You know what you're doing. You know, all that. And then Lorne looks up and he's going, could be, could be. And I didn't know what it meant in time. And I got the tap and I looked up and it was Paul McCartney. And I was running the full and I didn't know whether he'd heard me. And so I was kind of nervous. So I said, and I hadn't seen him in a while. I said, you're holding up. And then that became a running thing. He says I'm holding up.

I'll never forget. From your point. I'll never forget that Paul McCartney said, so I can't do a Paul McCartney. In fact,

My Paul McCartney makes him sound like he's Indian, like he's from Bombay. I'll teach you how to do it, but go ahead and try it. Just everything's a question. He's like, Will, what are you guys doing here? That's not bad. It's okay. What are you guys doing here? What are you doing here? He says, what are you doing here? And you said, or Lawrence said, we just did the 25th anniversary screening of Wayne's World, and Paul McCartney...

Paul McCartney said, and I'll never forget it as long as I live, he said, oh, Wind's World. Oh, that's a classic. Wow. I'll never forget it as long as I live. Take it and run. It's a classic, you know, because they were stumble bumpers. One guy was driving the car. One guy was just hanging out singing, you know. And they'd go to the donut shop. They're like, could we get a donut? But they called it a cruller. He had a big giddy boop.

And, you know, in Liverpool, it was called a boom gay. You know, if you had pastry, it was a boom ganger. And they call it a cruller. And other people call it a donut. You know, I don't know. I'm not sure. But anyway. Have you guys watched the Beatles? I just last night was watching the Beatles documentary. It is mind-altering.

I'm too in love with it. I watched it immediately over three days. Yeah, I watched all seven hours and I was watching the second episode again last night. It's too fascinating. Is it Apple TV or Paramount Plus or Discovery Minus? Disney Plus. Disney Plus. You can go buy a month for $199 and then cancel your subscription. Oh, I didn't know they're going to jack me for $199. It is absolutely...

God damn, I love them. And if you love them so much, we all seem like we do. Honestly, if you love, even like the Beatles, you're going to have to be like resuscitated. Well, it makes people remember like this is the real shit. Like this is the fucking unbelievable shit of when you got a band that's unreal and for a chunk of time that stays forever and you're like, holy fuck. What it illustrates, and someone said this in a review, is that it marvelously represents the minutiae

and boredom of the creative process that you're just they just start going into cover songs they're doing everything they can not to work on the song and then they work on it again then they go away they come back it goes on for hours i mean it is just an insight into some of the songs how hard they work jumps in them where you're listening i don't even know much about music and i'm like they're going from that to that is that even legal like things that they were doing back then and you must if you were anyone back then you must have been so floored going

Am I in the same business as these guys? Because that's the thing you look at. Like, I want to know who's doing that now. Who, who's out there selling Cardi B. Who's doing that? Who? It's, it's, it's a one-off. It's a linchpin. The sixties were a linchpin decade for the, for the 20th century. And then they, they rode that wave. They were a teen idol band.

who then became the most experimental band. And then they, you know, Let It Be was done in three weeks in January 69. By the end of October, they'd finished the White Album. They took eight weeks off. Then they're in there. Third week of February, they're doing Abbey Road. I mean, no one worked like that. But I do think there was a chemistry between Lennon and McCartney that's just supernatural, obviously. Yeah.

I mean, you can't duplicate it. It would be like One Direction. Like they throw them together with Simon Cowell like they're a teeny bop band. And then suddenly they're the best, most intricately clever creative band in the world. And you go, it seems like they almost stumbled into it by just going, let's get a band together. And they just happen to get these geniuses together. It's funny. I don't watch anything anymore because I'm so much time working, which is great. And there's not a move that...

Or a beat that I have not seen or played myself at this point. And so unless it's done spectacularly or surprisingly, it makes me want to stop watching. And you're talking about acting, comedy. Acting, comedy, story, playing it to Bill. You name it. Name a scenario. Name it. I've played it.

Particularly because I'm on like an adventure show. So literally, person in a drain, seen it. Somebody wants to get divorced, seen it. Somebody gets poisoned table, done it. I mean, there's not honestly. Yeah. My rattlesnake did it. It's like, and you see the moves, 10 moves ahead. So, and it's fine. It's just, you know, I know where all the seams are and it's fine. It's what I do. So, but when I do see something on television,

Or in the movies that reminds me of the power of it. I literally start to cry. I literally start to cry because it reminds me of what this is and can be and what it means. And that's the way I felt about, about the Beatles documentary.

Yeah, that's really well said. I feel the same way. My wife says, you're possessed by them. I go, I know, but it's fun. And, you know, I rode the wave like I was nine years old when they wanted Ed Sullivan. I'd been in a band with my younger brother. We had a clothes hamper with a crayon. We painted the surf. We drew that were the surfers. He had a one string guitar. He could play Louie Louie. I had drumsticks, which I stole from Mickey Hart's store from the Grateful Dead at age nine.

And then we would play and then when the Beatles came on, we changed it to the Beatles and then we played for that.

I had older brothers as well. So I was getting all the albums in real time. And so that kind of imprinted it. And then you're like, oh, well, the Beatles, I like them because I'm just of that generation. But then you meet people who are 20 or 30. I mean, Conan O'Brien, who's 10 years older than me, and J.J. Abrams. I mean, we have kind of a little email club where we send each other Beatle clips.

We'll put you in there, Rob. Please, yeah. Just things that we find and they're just possessed by them and just, you meet them and it's just, they're a one-off. I mean, there hasn't been anything like it. What's your favorite, and then you can cut all this out if you want, what's your favorite moment? What was the moment where you went, holy fucking shit? When they hid the camera in the flower pot and Paul and John are having a heart-to-heart about the last six years. I mean, they were such shooting stars.

You were always the boss, you know. Well, I had problems with you, too. I wanted to change the arrangement, but I was afraid. I didn't follow me on what I wanted to do. I had to rely on George to tell you. Well, you know, I always thought that I was the one driving it. You know, it's just that intimacy of the two greatest songwriters of the 20th century, you

And the way they talk to each other, the respect and the angst of that conversation just moves me like no other lover. Same. Yeah. Unbelievable. Okay. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role, obviously. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. Everyone knows LinkedIn, but LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team faster and for free.

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I have a question for Rob while you're scribbling. Rob, I saw trivia on you and it said you were one of the hijackers of 9-11. That's not true, is it? How great, that's such a great bit. Do you stay in touch with those people? The other hijackers? I just want to say this to Rob. Tom Cruise in space. Go.

Oh, he's very intense. He's going to go do a film on the space station. You know what? He's also riding on the outside of the rocket going up to the moon. Dude, he's the man. For Mission Impossible. Dude, he's unbelievable. He's the greatest. I love him. He's the last great movie star. Well, he will risk his life for a movie. He takes it seriously. You got to give cred to that. I mean, my God. If you saw what I complained about on movies and went, no.

No one what, Rob? No one takes it more serious than Tom, really. I mean, he makes Daniel Day-Lewis look like a backslider. Like he's in Dickie Roberts. Not committed to his scene at all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I have a competition problem. It's not a competition. I say that everyone should fail. This is my American accent. I have a competition. I'm going to talk like this. This is HW. Go ahead. So listen, Rob, you worked with Tom on which movie? Outsiders? Yes. And was he like that then?

He was super like that then. I mean, look, we were, I was, I was, it's in the book. I mean, it's like, it's a huge story that outsiders and Tom Cruise really pops off the pages to what he would have been like as a young man, the intensity was there. Right. Well, and what I, and there's stuff that I didn't put in the book is a lot of stuff I didn't put in the book. And, and as I've gotten older,

And I've seen how the two books that I wrote were received happily in exactly the way I'd hoped that they would be. I've become a little more comfortable. You mean telling a story about someone? Yes. Thank you. Okay. I like the way you just cut to the chase. So I go to visit Tom on the set of Risky Business.

And I'm about to do this movie called Class in Chicago. So I go like a week early so I can hang out with Tom. And I remember taking a cab to the set and it was like, I had to write the direct. It was like so 1980s. It's a cab. I'm writing the directions down. Lakeshore Drive. It's a second exit off the, you know, and I get there and it's the scene where he's jumping on the hood of the Porsche to try to stop it from going into Lake Michigan.

And I walk on the set and they're doing, they're doing, they're doing the scene. They're doing the scene. They're doing the scene. And I'm, I'm not interrupting. Obviously they're doing the scene. I'm waiting for it to be over. It's Tom's super intense. And he's trying to, you know, that scene, he's like, stop, stop. Like it's super intense. And Tom is super intense. So, um, and then finally it's over and he comes over to me. He goes, Hey man, how you doing? I'm like, Hey, I'm like, so what, uh, so when you're done, let's go grab a bite. And he's like, yeah. Um, I, I, uh,

I can't do that. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, see, look, I know you, but my character doesn't know you. Right. That's true. And so I didn't do anything because Joel from Risky Business did not know me. Did not know Rob Lowe. Was he one of those guys who was called by his character's name on the set?

My guess is that that was a phase. And by the way, that was a phase everybody was toying with. Sean Penn did that for a while. Oh, dude, I picked up the phone one time at Emilio's house and it was like, hello, is Emilio there? And I was like, Sean? And he was like, why is Emilio there? Is that from I Am Sam? And he was doing his voice from that Louis Mall movie he did, Crackers.

Oh boy. He played like a Cajun in Crackers. Oh, okay. And he wouldn't give up the voice. And even when I said, Sean, is that you? He was like, I was doing the thing. So like a lot of people were trying to do that kind of thing at that point. I, by the way, if you need and want to do that, that's great. And a lot of great actors do. But I've also worked with really great actors who are perfectly happy to be talking about what they're going to have for dinner. And they put the slate in front of their face and go action. And they're transcendent.

And then they go cut and they go back to talking about dinner. I don't get enough money to stay as Dickie Roberts all night. By the way, this would go back to Saturday Night Live a little bit. But Jennifer, who does hair and makeup for Saturday Night Live now, she's out in Hollywood, just a friend of mine. She said there's a lot of actors now and a lot of call for actors after Gary Oldman's Oscar win.

for Churchill for prosthetics. And because that, as you know, you put a nose, you put a thing, suddenly you get an Oscar or the critics just love it. They used to say that about me. You didn't look anything like a character. I was under, so on SNL, was that your first experience? Did you ever get a kind of a, really a look in your hosting where you just change? When I can, when I can wear prosthetics, it's my favorite thing in the world. When I did behind the candelabra, it was all huge.

huge oh wow character makeup that was cool and it was like it's so freeing it is it's free for anybody but it's it's super freeing for somebody who usually plays like romantic leading man parts it's so i love it can you but you walk around like that too and when you're not in any danger of anyone even knowing who you are

Well, what's really interesting is I got to see how literally the other half lives where I went. I was doing this thing where I, with our, our pal, Kaylee Cuoco, I was playing Drew Peterson, the, the big fat cop from Chicago who killed like three of his wives, handlebar, walrus mustache bag. You look like, I look like Bert Lahr from Cowardly Lion. And, um, and I went out to dinner, went out to lunch at a proper restaurant on my break.

And when I walked out the, and I'm in my cop uniform and when I, there's no way anybody knows it's look like a big overweight, fat middle-aged cop. Yeah. And when I walk out, the people come back soon and they didn't mean it.

And I went, oh, so that's what it's like. This is what it's like. Oh. They were just not into you as they thought because you were a cop or they just thought you were just like. Ageism or fatism. They're just like, it's just like regular people because, you know, when it's just like, it's just fucking crazy. Rather than Mr. Lowell, please come back. Yeah. It wasn't like, oh yeah. Or it was just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, dude.

Yeah, I've done that when they don't know me. It's the fucking worst thing in the world. They treat me like a normal person. I love it. It's horrifying. It is. Do you, Rob, do you- I walk out without paying for stuff and they go, I'm the money. I go, oh, this guy doesn't know me.

He doesn't know I don't pay for stuff. I was on a cell phone the other day and distracted talking to my sister-in-law, getting gas at a, and I drove off and the handle was still in the thing. So I stopped, I went back, there was no gas flowing. The guy comes out, what are you doing? You have to take it out. You can't drive away with it. He's telling me. And I'm like, well, I did.

I forgot. You can't do that. You have to put it. But they says, we can put it back on. And the guy was actually from Des Moines. He just had this weird accent. Oh, he had an accent? I'm so, I can't do any accents anymore. You sounded like Arnold. I thought Arnold Schwarzenegger came out for a minute. Let me tell you something about Rob Lowe. You know, you take the good looks and the funniness, the intelligence. He's an author, you know, and these things. You put it together. Not these things.

You put all these things and all these people, you put the prosthetics on them, you give them a part they can really get into, and then they get the Oscar on Oscar night. I introduced Arnold to Sean Penn. They'd never met. It was right after Sean won the Oscar. Could I do Arnold meeting Sean Penn? No.

No, go ahead. Well, because I got to tell you what Arnold said. I want to hear this. So we were at a table and Sean was at the table. We came over and Sean wanted to hit Arnold up on some political issue. He was...

upset about and Arnold was governor at the time oh yeah and Sean was super earnest as he is yeah and he's like you know I don't want you to be on the you know I really respect you and I just want I don't want you to be on the wrong side of history he says to Arnold Jesus and Arnold goes yes yes let me ask you something in milk

There's that amazing scene where you come out and they're standing there and you've won the election and you have your moment in the sun and you put your hands up like this. Not like this. Like this. And he does like the real feminine gesture that Melk did because he looks so feminine and like a woman. And I thought only he could do that.

Meaning Harvey Milk or Sean Penn? Sean Penn. It's like he was going like, is this guy fucking with me or not? It was super, super funny. The thing about Arnold, his street smarts, if you call him that, just because of his accent and everything, is unparalleled. The guy is...

And he'll say such simple stuff. Before every movie, I get everybody in the room and I say, first of all, let's take away all the magical facts and the monsters, the scary things, the guns and all the things. We take them out of the room and we see if the story will work. I studied it. Rurk. Rurk. Rurk. Rurk.

I just like anyone who says, let me tell you something right before they talk to you. Let me tell you something. Such a great precursor. Hit me now, believe me later. All right, I have to go. So Rob, listen, I want to summarize Dana and I'm going to show you. Where are you going? I have to clear up. Rob was not

one of the hijackers. It was, he was on a test flight or something. I like the way I let that, did you notice the way I let that go out into the ether? You let it slide. You were like, but I was, I was on a test flight with the hijackers. That's right. And you do, and you don't stay in contact with them on many of them I've heard.

So, you know, you know, we, we've grown apart. It's not, it's not like it's just, we've just grown apart. And you're like, and it wasn't even that it's just later. They said something to me. I didn't like, um, okay. So Rob was great. Dana was great. Spade sort of chimed in. There's a lot of fun SNL. Thank you, Rob. You're always a fucking blast to talk to my boys. Love you.

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