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2022/4/27
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Mike Myers discusses how he was recommended for SNL by Martin Short and Pam Thomas, and his initial confusion about being hired without an audition.

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Hey guys, coming up next, Mike Myers. Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah, I mean, you can have your, look at, you go get your own place, you get your own pool, you get your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's- Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there, I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. Hey guys, it's Spade Spadoodle, and we are about to do the intro for Mike Myers. And I just want to tell you, because of a huge fuck up on my part-

My sound is good with my intro at Dana and I'm hilarious. I mean, it's a side note. And we had the greatest interview, but I screwed up and my audio isn't perfect for all you nerd robots out there. Like I only listen for the sound quality, not for the comedy. You're not going to be stoked. You can still hear all my jokes. I had a fucking blast with Mike yesterday.

I'm just going to say that we sound great at the intro. Then my sound is, you can hear everything. It's just not as perfecto. So don't freak out and don't write your local congressman. Thank you. Here's me and Dana.

All right, here we go. So Dana, we're... Dana and I... We have a free minute. We laugh. Yeah. I heard a joke this weekend. I'm going to tell it to you. I love it. Because comedians never tell jokes. But this one isn't bad. Okay. This one, you can do at home too. And I kind of mangled it. I've told it three times and I've told it differently. Okay. But the basic idea is it's an old people's...

I can't believe I'm a professional. They're a 90-year-old couple and it's their 60th anniversary. And so the wife says, get in bed. I'm going to surprise you with something. So she goes in the bathroom. You follow so far. So the guy's in the bed waiting for his big surprise. So she goes in and strips naked and only puts on a cape. So she has nothing but a cape.

Got it. So she leaps out of the bathroom, lands at the base of the bed and goes, super pussy. And he goes, I'll take the soup. All right. Here's one, not as funny, but nice and quick that just generic that I use sometimes. Okay. Yeah.

Did you hear about the mom and the dad who found out their 10-year-old boy was visiting S&M websites? No, I did not. And the mom said, what are we going to do? And the dad said, well, we can't spank him. He'll jizz. That's nice. What? Yeah, that's good. That's nice and quick. I do that as Obama in my standup. Hear about the mom and the dad who found out their 10-year-old boy was visiting S&M websites. And the mom said, what are we going to do? The dad said, well, we can't spank him.

Come on, Michelle. Come on, Michelle. Michelle, no. No, just leave the egg salad where it is. I'm going to eat later. Michelle, I'm here with David Spade on a podcast. Biden didn't understand it. Come on. What do you mean? What am I going to do? I know how to do this. I know where I am. Yeah. Come on. We know it. Mike Myers coming on right now. Mike Myers. My brother from another mother. We have so much in common.

He has two older brothers, one's obsessed with Todd Rundgren. I have three older brothers, one's obsessed with Todd Rundgren. And he's kind of a, well, he has quite a resume. - Jesus. Well, when I got to SNL, you two guys were some heavy hitters that were there. And you were also in Wayne's world together, but we would also all wind up in sketches together and you had your own stuff and you had movies.

It was very exciting and intimidating to be in there with all you guys. And you two went on and did a lot of stuff. And it's great. Mike was a force there. And he was nice to me. And, you know, that's saying a lot. Who wasn't nice to you? I know. You're David Spade. Everyone likes you. I didn't really get along with Al Franken, but no names. I love Al. By the way, if you hear this podcast, there's not a chance that Al's name doesn't come up and I go...

In the background. He's one of our classics. What's interesting about Mike and what we've learned from doing this podcast is that everyone has their own lane there. You have your story. My story is yet to be told. I may get my own special episode. Please, just talk for now. We had a nice cast going. The show was starting to come back. And then Mike was dropped in. He had his own lane of joining the cast. It was already gelling and bringing all this great stuff to it.

So I wanna hear how he felt about that and his journey through that. And then into sharing this in crazy Wayne's World movie and how much it grew on the show. It's very, very interesting. I'm gonna ask about Coffee Talk movie and I'm gonna ask about Sprockets movie. My supernatural friend, Mike Myers.

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Find it on auto trader. See it. Find it. Auto trader. Get back by the Beatles. I felt like I was watching. I felt like I was watching Da Vinci at work. You know what I mean? That moment when get back happens, moved me to tears. The sweetness that they had with each other. Like that hug when there's like,

uh you know i'll go over and i'll talk to george you know oh yeah i had that nice sweetheart killed and they were just just lads and they you know lennon as it went on and there's some of the stuff you know what you wrote and i wrote and in the 70s was just very sweet and very present and

I loved how much everyone would lock in and try really hard on everyone's song. You know, I just wasn't, I thought it was going to be so much anger, but no, they're like, and Ringo always said that he'd count in and they'd all just drop everything. And also, which you can probably relate to this being, you know, I'm barely middle class growing up, but,

But the setting was just tea and cigarettes and just funny chairs. Like nothing was so unfancy, especially at Abbey Road. It was just like you'd think it'd be. And then just the work ethic of Paul with trying to, okay, do it again, do it again, do it again. No, he's definitely just had his hand on the third rail and he was just driven. You know what I mean? Yeah. He couldn't.

It needed to come out. And George's sadness was tough. Just the...

Hey guys, hey guys, wait up, guys, wait up. What are you guys going? I know. And just that they, they'd been in back of vans and stuff. And then when Paul was really trying to instruct him, you know, I was getting anxious. Like it was, that's George Harrison and it's not little George. He met at 14. We'll do this and do this and do this. And I used to do that as a joke kind of, cause I heard it on an album once with Paul would go do, do, do, do, do.

to kind of process the melody and then he's doing it you know you go like yeah it's like he hears the whole he's like mozart i mean here's it all yeah and so then he's frustrated but

It was so remarkable. I just got to it, guys. I was just watching when I, in the other room, sort of got. Well, I thought you were a big Monkees fan. I didn't know you were a Beatle guy. No, I'm watching the Monkees. What do you guys think? No, I was watching and it was just the part where he was sort of helping George. And then

And then it was, he's, I guess, stumbling into get back, but he kind of, you can kind of go, I know this one. And then he fools around with it. And then he starts going, get back. And you're like, Oh, is that what you're talking about? Mike? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God. This is get back. Yeah. And then I could relate to that constantly. I can relate to. Okay. A lot of creativity is then just going someplace else, like either bullshitting around the table and ordering Chinese food or

Or they would go into, you know, Carl Perkins songs. They kept going back, I guess, just to refresh their brains and come back around on it, you know. So, anyway. No, they just kept getting back to the whole reason why they wanted to do music in the first place. I love that part of it. And I also loved how much Ringo was a Paul McCartney fan.

Just the look of adoration when Paul's just, you know, the long and winding road and he's

He's going, I've got one, I've got one. And it's like the best song ever. Yeah. He had that Savant kind of vibe about him, like pulls it in here, goes there, you know, this just goes there. And, and it was, it was just so, so sweet to see. I think it's how they recognize game. Like even when I, when I got to a good old SNL, like we can't compare to the Beatles, but when I got to a place where I had done standup comedy here and there, and,

the headliner was pretty good and he would kill but he wasn't that good and i was trying to sort of figure out what was good and what wasn't and what i jived with and then i got to the show and you guys were there and everyone was like beyond what i thought they would be like i didn't know what to expect and i'm like the writers are so good and everyone's so ahead of me i was going holy i thought it was pretty good but it's it's too good here and i look back and we did have a chunk there where

you know they usually do have a lot of really really good people there but that's great there i was thinking yeah i'm over my head i see you guys and then you can trust it yeah yeah it took a while to like take a notepad and go write a sketch and without tons of help you know because everyone's in their own they got to do their own shit and then people would help but they can't baby you all day right yeah i mean you had your path i had mine and i think mike's is uh

kind of a singular path because he came in, the cast was going good. Mike Myers is coming in. Who? You know, and then you had to come in. It wasn't like three people came in.

or or in someone else it was just and mike was the first new guy after the original cast it was like two seasons ends and so that's kind of unique about your experience so just explain how that how that felt because i yeah what was that like to come in you without and then you melded and did brilliant and we were just you know we were like the beatles by you know but at that time it must have been strange it was terrifying i um

I hadn't seen the show in a long time because I was living in England and I've said this too many times now, but it's absolutely true. I had a top loading VHS that I had to choose between, you know, the hockey game, which is at 730 and it ends at 1230. I can relate to that. And I've never heard this, you know, it's because we all think everyone's heard everything because we go on these different interviews. I'd not heard that one from you. I didn't. So I got a call from,

do I want to be on Saturday Night Live and I thought it was my brother Paul at first you know what I mean honest to God because I was in Chicago at Second City and then I started to watch the show and I I I was like holy these guys are awesome like these they're you know I mean and I had been in Toronto and um we used to have funny cab guys you know the cab dispatchers so

It was an East, East end taxi, Eastern, Eastern Avenue taxi in Toronto. And the guy would go, he was just like, Oh, I need a, I need a cab at Blore and Dundas. And then a cab, you don't hear the cab driver and he'd go give the man a bologna sandwich. Right. That was the code that meant you've got the cab or something. I don't know, but it was really amusing. And you'd be in the back of the cab and you'd be like, Oh, that that's a funny dispatcher. And then this one, I was with Dave Foley and this one day,

Dave Foley from the kids in the hall in this one cab dispatcher just kept saying, isn't that special? And I said to Dave Foley, I said, that's really funny. That's a great idea.

that's a great thing to say isn't that special and fully looked at me and said that's Dana Carvey's lady character I said oh my God that's a that's a like a catchphrase he goes do you not know I said no I've been living in England for three and a half years that's funny I did and I missed everything and they have no sense of Saturday Night Live in England at all

Damn. The only thing. I don't go. The only thing that they'd watched later was little clips of Wayne's world after the movie came out. And even then they were a little like, Oh, I liked the movie, but say, I don't know about that sketches. Let's insert that moment that we shared and then go back around to this because Mike creates Wayne's world invites me to be on. Well,

We're going, going, going. It's starting out. It's kind of late in the show. Then da, da, da, da, Madonna, everything. Then let's make a movie. Okay. And then we have to go to London. I was so naive. I'd never that when Paramount was saying, well, would you like to go to London? I kept turning them down. Like, I'm really tired. I think I'll go. I didn't understand what. And they said, well, we'll bring anybody or whatever you want. So we're on the Concord with Paula, like six of our relatives. But anyway, a moment that I'll never forget.

is that it had been shown enough in London that there was a following. So Mike and I, who used to joke, you know, let's do, you know, let's do a thing called We're the New Beatles. Remember that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're the New Beatles. We're my cuter. So we had our little suits on.

a little suits and then we were in this london cabby limo type thing and we pulled up in front of the theater to show london wayne's world and there were like 5 000 kids leaning on cyclone fences with posters and stuff and yeah isn't that wasn't that that moment we got out of the car like what and they're screaming for us that was fucking nuts how did you get it did they get it dana from um

I mean, Mike, our guys, did they get it from the sketches or they had caught up with SNL stuff? So they knew the movie was coming. I think they ran the sketches. I think they ran the sketches on BBC, like because nothing goes on the hour on BBC. You know what I mean?

So it'll be, you know, coming up at 1238, you know, like it's all weird. It's all just specific. At 1119. They would put in little spacers of Wayne's World, you know. You know, Mike, one time we went to, the only time I've been to London was, I've only been anywhere for press. And it's just like always quick. But we went for Tommy Boy and Farley and I went over and we,

For some reason, thought we were famous. Meanwhile, we've only been on the show like three years. It's not even really over there, like you said. And then Tom Boy wasn't even out yet. So we were like, it's going to be weird being so famous. And then we stayed at the Dorchester and we had hats and glasses on. We go, let's go try to eat.

And then when then no one knew us and then they're like, Hey, who's the fat guy and skinny guy. And then we walked around and then we slowly took the glass and everything off. And then we were trying to get recognized. We just trying anything to get one person to know us and it all, it's sort of backfired. Yeah. It is funny. It's all different now, but at the time it was,

The ocean was a big ocean. You know what I mean? Yeah, without Google, without... Even if you didn't see the show, you didn't see it on Monday on the internet. You had to wait six months and see a rerun. And who... Maybe you know this, Mike. This is just an insert. It always made me laugh when they'd say, you're going to jump the pond. So the Atlantic Ocean became referred to as a pond. Was that from Londoners or... Anyway. It feels like a, you know...

An English understatement. Yeah, kind of. So, you know, I don't know what everyone knows, but it is interesting. I felt kind of envious in a way of your roots of having two parents from Liverpool. And you're sort of like, you probably had cousins who knew the Beatles or whatever. I mean, that is very interesting. I did.

yes you did i knew it yeah yeah i had a cousin who knew aunt mimi oh really wow yeah which i aunt mimi was in the beatles she was yeah she was a roadie yeah tom hanks played her in the one of the winds world sketches she was lugging pb apps uh yeah go ahead mike sorry go ahead no no no it's all good and um

I knew all the places. I knew Penny Lane. You know what I mean? I'd been there as a kid.

And Strawberry Fields, I kicked a soccer ball around on Strawberry Fields. You know what I mean? So it was kind of a weird thing. And my parents were super proud, you know, and their accent became famous, you know? Yeah. So people would knock on the door knowing I wasn't home and they would say, is Mike in? And my dad was, you know, no, actually, I think he's kicking about with this other and people like, cool, you know, the Beatles were so famous that the accent was famous and I got some reflected glory.

Well, that's another thing that's unique about you is, okay, you grew up in Canada and then right out of high school, you go into Second City, right?

You at some point, obviously, at English Roots and had gone over there, but then you go over to England. You're developing your comedy there as part of a comedy team. And you're there for three years outside the States and Canada. And then how do you get on SNL from there? Then you get on SNL, you're like 25 or something. So what happened was I came back for Christmas and my dad was ill. He was starting to get Alzheimer's.

And I was in a comedy double act with a guy named Neil Malarkey, who's, you know, really, of course, my dad was like, what's your comedy partner's name? I said, Neil Malarkey. And he said, well, I guess, you know, Bill Shenanigans wasn't available because his name is Malarkey. And Malarkey is fantastic. I still work with him today. You know, he's hilarious.

And I didn't want to leave. I didn't want to leave. I love they don't blame. I love being in London double act. I love London. Yeah. And my dad was starting to get ill. And I did the I did the improv set at Second City, Chicago, the main second Toronto, the main stage. And then they said to me, do you want to have a job on the main stage of Second City, Toronto? And I was like, I don't really only because

but then I knew that my dad was ill and I'm so glad I did because I did get to see my dad for a little while before he lost his personality which was sort of like a double death with Alzheimer's you know what I mean yeah horrible and um so I got to see him he got to see me perform and then um I got hired for Second City Chicago uh and went down there and

And then my dad had a horrible accident in a bath and it was awful. And I went back up and I technically was the alumni at Second City Toronto. And there was an alumni show and Martin Short saw me there and recommended me to Lauren. Yes, I know that part of it. And then I got I got a I didn't audition. I just got called and I.

And I just, then I was just in the cast and I didn't really actually know I was hired for the first little while exactly. And even Lauren, Lauren, I was in the hallway and he was, I was, he said, well, what are you doing here? I was like, I'm,

Why are you on nine? Yes. You know, why are you cross-legged by the elevator bank? And I was like, I don't have an office. Get off the floor or something. And I was like, didn't I meet you and you hired me? Yeah. We're going full. Wait, you go ahead. Hang on.

Let me ask him. He, he didn't. So Mike, you didn't have the stress of knowing you were having an audition. Really? It just Martin short saw you and then said he recommended. A hundred percent. If I had auditioned, I wouldn't have got in. That's a hundred. I'm the shittiest auditioner. That's ever. I hate it too. I mean, so Martin short must've recommended you to,

Really heavily. I mean, you know what I mean? And Dave Foley. And Dave Foley as well. Who Lorne respects. Yeah. And Pam Thomas is a casting director, Pam Thomas, who is a producer with...

the kids in the hall. She was at this anniversary in Toronto and she also called Lauren. So it was like, so in all due modesty, what were you doing when Marty saw you? Like, were you, were you doing sprockets? Were you doing Lothar? I did. I did Wayne's world. You did Wayne's world. Yeah. At the top of the second act who played Garth.

Yeah. There was no Garth. It was Wayne and Nancy. Thank you for creating a sidekick once again. Yeah. That's great. That was very funny. Well, you know the story of, I just looked at the cast and I said,

who's the best comedian there sketch and that's 100 true i don't know i had a baby face had to keep my chin up and uh i guess we'll be doing it on the 50th anniversary so i'm gonna isn't it the isn't it the 30th anniversary this year it's the 30th of the movie oh you guys yeah of wayne's world the 30th anniversary of the movie which is ridiculous

I know.

He has a streaming show coming out on Netflix, right? This year? Yeah. It's in May. It'll come out in May. It's called The Pentaverate. And it's about what if five people ran the world. I was going to call mine. Well, I had heard that. I got out with it faster. You got out first. Early adopter. I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, not at all. It's called The Pentaverate. And it's about five people. What if five people ran the world? And what if they were nice?

And it's about conspiracy theories. Right. And I play all five. So you play Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk. Well, you'll have to see. I'm...

I'm keeping tight lipped about the various characters. I love, I love the, I love the, uh, the premise and I love the idea of it. So, and you're doing your, your Mike Myers thing, which is amazing to watch. Well, thank you. I'm, um, I had a lot of fun doing it and I, you know, happy with it. Very happy with it. I think the writer performer is kind of the most potent comedian. Not, not all comedians write their stuff, but,

but in your case, you were just every bit as much a writer, Tina Fey the same, and a great performer. What I'm kind of interested, now that we're to this section, is what you brought to SNL that first year was so outside, it had its own frequency, its own sensibility, and I always say it's Canadian, British, and American, 'cause you're always watching America as a kid, right? Yeah, yeah. From Canada.

So that when you came in and I wanted to walk through some of those things you did on that first season and then finished with this part of it when we were touring and...

Mike and I did some dates and how hard you had landed with the audience because we were playing 3,000 seaters and you'd come out and they were going crazy. So anyway, I'll be back in 10 minutes. I just wanted to lay that out there. That was a long way of saying. So you come in, the first thing I saw, I'll start it this way. So Mike comes in, he's very Canadian in the sense that he's shy and sweet, unassuming, well,

And the first thing I saw you do, I think you had a suit on, you had a French accent, and you were peeing yourself with some kind of device. Well, it was fortuitous. It was as if it was French Saturday Night Live. Oh, okay. And because I speak French because I'm from Canada...

Do you really? Yeah. I've only been able to do fake French. So this is nothing, right? But anyway, so... So I did it actually in French. Oh, you did? Oh, you're actually French in a suit wetting your pants? Yes.

Is that your first guest? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was playing the, a cast member or the French celebrity who was hosting that week. Oh, I see. Okay. And in France and it's, um, and then they had a, a P rig. Yeah. On me. Right. And, uh,

Always enjoy wearing a P rig. I don't know why. Now, this is Mike. This is your first read through or is this your first show? First show, I think. And then the first sketch I was in where I played Nigel the groundskeeper and one of

And it was, um, Nigels. I like someone's name. The groundskeeper. I'm no stranger to a Nigel. It's a good English name. I guess it's funny. Mike was at the beginning of like a September season. Like I came in at the end of a season. Some people come in the middle. Adam came in the middle. I came in the middle. It was February of 89. Yeah. That's sometimes tougher. Everything's rolling.

It was. And everybody's awesome. Like, you know, well, we had, we had Phil Hartman and Jan hooks. I mean, you know, Oh my God. I had a nervous breakdown that first week. I said, straight up on the floor crying. I'm not going to make it. I didn't know. And then Lauren said, what are you doing on the floor? Mike? So you go to a psych ward, Mike. Oh,

So in those four months you landed, I know you did Sprockets. Yeah. Which I always love the touch my monkey aspect to it. That was so specifically insane. Touch it. Demanding. So where did that, so you had that when Martin Short saw you, did you do Sprockets and Wayne's World or?

Now, I just did Wayne's World. But it was after the intermission, and I came up from the audience, and people actually kind of weren't sure if it was you. It was happening, and then...

Then I just had a great show. And then we did the improv set. And I did a couple of things. And I just had a show of my life. It was one of those weird things. And then there's a thing called phrase tag at Second City where you take the position of somebody. And I ended up in this long freeze tag with Martin Short. Oh, okay. As it was described to me is that Martin Short is

looked at me. I, I looked like I was 14 and I mean, and was starting to name drop like as a, as a way of saying you won't know any of these people. And I matched every name drop for a name drop. You know what I mean? Okay. Got it. And so he was like, you know, I was with Stevie Spielberg at the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, that's when Liza Minnelli came. We're on a yacht drinking white Puerto Rican rum.

There was a white Puerto Rican rum commercial that had Liza Minnelli and whatever. And it became this, this dual, you know what I mean? I was, I did a bit once where celebrity name dropping, it's always a shorter, like Johnny Carson. I was with John Carson, you know, and Eddie, Eddie McMahon, you know, it's always, it's always kind of changed. We're with Bobby Hope.

And walked, you know, that was, but yeah, so you crushed it. Then you come to the show. And then by May, the show's done. So you landed a lot of stuff before we went on our little mini tour, maybe. But I didn't think so at the time. That's so stupid is I literally...

was like, "I blew it. I'm gonna get fired." And I really, truly thought I was getting it fired pretty much every week, you know what I mean? Well, which one landed the best in your mind? I mean, you did Lothar of the Hill People. Yeah. Did you-- I am Lothar of the Hill People. It's like, just again, just-- It's just different crowds liked it, like the sort of people that, you know, like musicians liked Dieter.

And they liked Wayne, but artsy people were like, oh, that Dieter thing's cool. Wayne's World had more of a broader appeal. But then I remember walking through Central Park, and it was always the people that worked in the park were like, oh, my God, it's Lothar the Hill People. They remember it. Lothar.

You can almost guess who's going to like what. When people come up to a dance company and go, I think you're going to like Ben Schwartz. So that was like an ancient man in very rudimentary language. No, but this was an ancient man in rudimentary language trying to understand women and society? Was that kind of a... Yeah, it was a sensitive troll or whatever, right? Yeah.

When I was a kid, I played a lot of Dungeons and Dragons, but we did it in character, which I look back now and it gives me the corny tingles. I know a lot of Dungeons and Dragons fans. My character was Lothar. When I lie with the woman, she comes, I don't know what you mean. There is much that I could tell you. Come, let us talk of stories of the hunt. That type of...

Wait, but Mike, you just did that half a year and then you guys went on the road? Yeah. You were done enough to go on the road? Yeah. It was... Wow. And I didn't have an act. I rode it on the plane. And so... Mike was writing and he had cue cards. He hadn't done this. On the stage. And if I could just insert this. So Mike's opening for me. He would... This brilliant thing, he would come out...

as was it wayne or wayne yeah wayne underdressed unbeknownst to the crowd was he was underdressed with deeter

So you do Wayne and then you pull a ripcord and then the theme to Sprockets would come on and you start dancing as Dieter and they would go shithouse. I mean, it was such an incredible move. But I was shocked because I didn't know who was watching the show. And I thought, you know, I just have to just do it. And if it if it if it doesn't play, I just stay Wayne the whole night. Do you know what I mean?

You know, back then you don't have Instagram followers. You don't have internet. So you have to guess, am I famous or do, does anyone know what the fuck is going on? I'm just hoping they see the show. I'm hoping they're into this. We think it's funny in the building and then we leave. You just don't know. No idea. And it was, it was interesting. Like when I was very first on the show, um,

I would get like three pieces of mail, right? And often it was your brother. Okay. Well, often from correctional facilities, you know what I mean? Yeah. And, uh, and with the real stamp, which I thought was, ah, that's cool. And then I would looked over at Dana's and I was like, he got no mail. Dana got no mail. Holy shit.

So I guess I'm OK with three. And I said to remember Julian. Oh, yes. Yes. And I said to Julian, I said, Julian, I don't understand it. Dana has no mail. There's no mail. And then he points over to these five boxes because it doesn't fit in there. Yeah, that's it. I didn't know that. That's nice. And she's at home right by the page. It was Steve Korn when I was there. Yeah, yeah.

And they had all these square boxes and each had our name on it, but they were unfortunately equally the same size. Yes. And then you'd see data sticking out. Stuffed. Stuffed down the front floor. When Mike and I, when the movie hit, it got kind of, it definitely went surreal for us, right? Because we didn't really know what box office and just awards kept arriving and giant vats of mail. It was just sort of, I don't know. I don't know if we really comprehended it.

No, it's too fast. Too much. For me, the only one that hit home was having immigrant parents and not having any hockey equipment, except go to the skate exchange and you'd get like old timey skates that look like, you know, soon railways will be spanning the nation. And then I'm on Saturday Night Live.

we weren't making any money but all of a sudden a thing arrives this big giant duffel bag from team canada with team canada skates with the logo stitched into the skates into the into the hockey pads into the gloves the logo team canada and i was like oh cool this is like unbelievable

And that's making it. I still have, I still have the gloves. Cause you were a big hockey guy back then. You had a lot of coats and stuff. That's, that's kind of a bond, you know, it's not, I would never do a military analogy, but it's a bonding thing in show business to be on that show with people. Cause it's so gritty. And then to have your first success with them and first time making a couple extra bucks, uh,

I remember you scrounging for quarters, you know, to get a sandwich and stuff. Or you got to get bringing a buck out and, you know.

Yeah. I mean, I did. I had to borrow money off Lauren. I had to borrow money off Lauren off the first half season. Does he have a billfold and kind of go like that? Does he like five, 10, 15? I want it by Tuesday. Where was I? Start again. Did he pay you in Canadian money or what? Here's a bloomy. Yeah. Bloomy. Yeah.

he no he said how much do you need I said $10,000 I didn't know and he was like what's your rent and I was like

What? What was it? Because how much do you... Something like $1,000 a month or something. Yeah, and you're netting maybe $1,500. But I had no money. Like, I had negative money. You know what I mean? And... I just thought... I would be so fucking scared as Lorne for money. I probably would have. I talked to... Do you remember Audrey Pert Dickman? Of course. Audrey, yeah. And she said, well...

She was like, do you have any friends that you can borrow from? I said, not really. No. He goes, uh,

Almost it was like anything valuable. Anyone else than Warren? Can you donate blood? Yes. Do you have any shoes you could donate? Yes. Jim Henry. I had the same thing, but I went straight to Marcy Klein because I found out she was Calvin Klein's daughter. So I said, oh, she's got to have some money. So that was my. No, I'm kidding. But I. Hi, Marcy. We love you.

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I thought that was with the kid with the helmet he was in straps and he's running away that was really inspired because it was so funny visually like even if you lost the sound it was so great oh thank you you know what I mean and also it was just like hyper hypo yeah yeah the hyper hypo yeah and he wore a helmet and he had this bungee cords and he's trying to harness there was a kid in my neighborhood that had a

harness. A harness. That's the word. And I was like, that's not right. You know what I mean? I think you had Nicole Kidman in one. Or was that Simon?

No, no, that was that Nicole Kidman was in on Phillip. Yeah. You know, I saw this morning a middle-aged man and I'm working on it. And I was seeing hooks in Victoria. It's just such a throwback of like the simple SNL sketches and you come in, you know, come in. It's so great. And then Farley came in as drinking buddy. I don't even really, I don't think I remember that. And you guys both snapped your head at the same time. And it was fucking really well done.

I love the theme. Do you remember the theme? Didn't it have a song? Middle-aged man. Go ahead. Can you sing it, Mike? Was it middle-aged man? Something, something. Middle-aged man. Yeah.

something, something and a gut middle age, man. And the catchphrase was, are you looking at my gut? I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Which of course is my actual thing. I say, because I have, of course, uh,

I have the gut. I love presentational comedy like that where you tell the audience the premise completely up front and then you present it to them. There's no mathematics for their head. They're just like enjoying. I know exactly what this is. Yes. Yeah. We're all spreading around. I mean, my waist is like way bigger than it was back then. I used to tease John Lovitz because I looked at the board and they do your waist and your inseam. Yeah.

And I was like, I was like, well, I was young. I was like 31, 33. And everyone else had a bigger waist and a shorter. So I, you know, I tease John and he teases me. I go, John, look, I have reverse sizing. He goes, what? What do you mean reverse? Anyway, John is the greatest. I mean, he's just the silliest. Hello. Hello, everybody. He's a nice-looking guy.

uh what else can i well i saw oh yeah i saw a site on youtube it said here's a scene of mike all things scottish from dress i'm like you can watch from dress what yeah i go and it said on the beginning starting live films their show at 11 30 but they have a dresser so that eight and it's not supposed to air but here's one i go you can find dress this is unreal everyone there was that the one with mel gibson where the the cash register malfunctioned i think it was walking

Was walking everyone? Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. What? For a second, just because we're on that topic, uh, hosts that were, I know these, you've heard these before, but it's, well, you probably, we probably have similar choices. Wayne Gretzky would be a big one for me. Number one. Yeah. Number one for you. I figured, uh,

And so just from my point of view for a second, you wrote a Wayne's World sketch. We went to an ice rink or we did a film. I'm from California, so I never played hockey. Wayne Gretzky is literally super Canadian nice. I mean, just like insanely unassuming hockey.

and then i couldn't get my i was playing the the goalie i didn't know so he gets on one knee starts lacing up my shoes and pads and then wayne gretzky says here hold the stick like this so it was thank you again for that that moment mike because i was like what no way to the greatest winner yeah well it's just so how was your experience with wayne and he was so wow well i i got called into lauren's office you know and uh

I said, okay, here it comes. You know what I mean? On the carpet. And I said, all right, you know, I tried. And then he goes, Wayne Gretzky's the host. And I was like, and I was like, is this happening? Like, it's a joke, right?

And he said, just maybe a Wayne's World. You know what I mean? And I was like, yeah, of course. But I went and all pre-cell phone, of course, I was just pounded calls to Canada. Oh, my God. My friends, Wayne Kresge is the host. Holy shit. You know what I mean?

It was huge. There was a couple of things for that episode that stick out to me. One is I have a terrible fear of flying. So does Wayne, ironically, even though he must have flown like crazy. He goes, I'll tell you at the end of the week what the secret is to not be afraid. So at the end of the week, I go, the end of the show, I go, Wayne, what's the secret? He goes, helicopters. Just fly in a helicopter and a plane will seem like nothing. He's right. He's got it right.

You know? He's 100% right. Helicopters are terrifying. Do you remember the sketch we did where we were playing celebrities idiotically trying to advise him how to play hockey? I do. And I remember it's like, what if you made the puck out of flubber? Yeah. Flubber. Flubber. And the funny part was Phil was doing Jack Nicholson and he always would say Wayne's moniker or nickname before he'd start to talk in rehearsal. He'd go, great one, great.

And Wayne would lose it every time, you know. And I was pulling out my silly John Travolta from 1975 going, you know, maybe just everybody should just go right at the net super fast. Just go right. And he loved it. But anyway, he stood out as just and he nailed that thing where he's singing like Elvis at the on the air show. Waikiki hockey. Yeah. Suddenly it was extremely charismatic and in the pocket. You know, it was like, wow, anything can happen on SNL.

Did you ever do Awesome Hours? No, you didn't. No, never did. That was later creation. That was later. I've only hosted once. I hosted in, I would say, 25 years ago.

Was it a promote? It was for Austin Powers, yeah. And how did you find that? Because David's hosted. I've hosted a few, three times, I think. Yeah. I find it really difficult. Do you? It looks so natural and fun. What was your... Well, when I did one in 95, I actually got, you know, some of the... I got into a restaurant sketch with... Chris was in it and Tim Meadows and Sandler.

that I didn't write. Steve Corrin wrote the pepper boy and that, that it for a restaurant sketch in the, in underneath the bleachers kind of set, it killed so hard that I, at that night at the hotel at four 30 in the morning, Sandler, he just left a voicemail for me going, Carvey pepper boy, you know, one of those, right? It killed so hard, but I think,

I think it's at Sandler. To me, Sandler. But the last time I went on, I just was a little too amped up, had been gone too long, and was a little too serious about trying to control it. Because they put you in like 13 sketches. As a cast member, you're used to having one or two that you're shepherding, so you can really focus. So that's the part that's hard. But how did you guys find it? You also want to kill on every sketch, and you start to go, I don't want to kill on every sketch. So you enjoyed it, Mike?

No, it was hard. Because it was too many sketches. And I also wanted every moment to be perfection. But what was from like when you write and produce your stuff from that standpoint, it, you know, like they said, OK, you're going to play the prime minister at the time of England. Right. Mm hmm.

And I was like, oh, I need some tape on. I don't really know how he talks. And so I said to the person, I said, is it possible to get a tape? And they said, sure, it'll be five minutes. I'm like, yeah, because when you do movies, it's much slower, much slower. And literally five minutes later, there was a tape. And I was like, this is why movies can be frustrating at time, because

Honest to God, like everything, you can't believe how fast things happen. Yeah. And so when people on movies tell you, oh, it can't happen, you're like, hmm, beg to differ. Actually, it can. Well, that's the love of Saturday Night Live. If you tend to procrastinate or you just have these hard deadlines throughout the week that keep pushing you forward and keep you really heightened. I didn't realize for my ADD or whatever I've got.

that that really fit my brain nicely because everything was in front of me and then there was the dress show and then boom, it's over. And then in a movie, you might develop it for two years. It's like, and then I was on a film once with a guy, we did so many rehearsals and so many other angles. By the time it got to the shot they were gonna use, I had said the thing, like I'd say 150, 200 times. It didn't even seem like English. It was like, I mean, I think,

you know, maybe the way other people do documentary style or something, but that kind of crushed me in movies. I didn't feel. I would love this. Yeah. I always want less takes because I feel like,

You're fresh, you get it. And if something happens off top of your head or you tweak it, but to do it. And then they, you're finally so burned out at the end. They go, now here's the big closeup. And you go, now the one we're going to use. I go, God damn it. You've used it all on the other side. Yeah. What is the money shot? I mean, in Wayne's world one, because it was, I don't know. I think it was like 35 days. So, and so there wasn't a lot of time for a lot of coverage. Like in Wayne's world one. No, it's freedom from choice too. That's the other thing too. Yeah.

You don't want so many choices. And the other thing, too, you know, I didn't even know on Winslow to ask if there was what the coverage was.

Me neither. Of course. And now, you know, there's been some movies where you can't ask, you know, or I was like Bohemian Rhapsody. I was just like, great, whatever. Yeah. You know, right. You're a hired hand kind of right. Yeah, exactly. And on Inglourious Bastards, it was just like,

whatever you would like, you know what I mean? - Can I say how much I love that scene? And I saw it recently and that how big he made the room and the attitude of your character and the accent. It's so fucking great. - Oh, thank you. I love doing that. - Well, I love Tarantino. I mean, you got to be in a Tarantino movie. - I can't believe it. I also like got to be in a World War II movie, which is also in like, just the whole experience was shot in Nazi headquarters.

Are you kind of, I'm just going to throw this out. I don't know where it's going. Are you kind of a World War II historian in a way? Or are you very much interested in that particular event? No, Mike is fanatic. I'm obsessed. And it's okay to say that, and I have other friends who do it, but you do paint and make beautiful models. Extraordinary. Oh, thank you. And you have tableaus of soldiers and they're just breathtaking. Dioramas, okay. Yeah, yeah. Extraordinary. But yeah, I'm...

lightweight compared to you, but I'm fascinated by World War II as well. Both my parents were in World War II. My mom was in the Royal Air Force and my dad was in the Royal Engineers and fought in the second wave of Market Garden where they were building bridges and clearing landmines and making anti-aircraft gun installments. And my dad shot at the Germans. He doesn't know whether he killed anybody.

Amazing. He took fire. He's been shelled. My dad was shelled during World War II and was in a slit trench underneath the truck. And he said the thing about the British Army is that in combat, British soldiers laugh all the time. They just make sense. Constantly laughing like it's really when they're frightened and running with the rifle. They're laughing. They laugh here out of fear. Yeah.

And I was like, is that just like, is that just legend and lore? But then of course I've seen a lot of like documentaries about the British army and stuff that they, it's just one of those stress responses that,

The greatest. Yeah. It shaped them. It shaped my parents. It shaped my parents in a huge way. How do we feel it did? How do you feel it did in specific? Well, you know, they would talk about things like fascism and like that was a real thing. Like my dad and my mom hated fascism.

any kind of fascism anything like that and we'll talk about it at the dinner table and i realized that my friends who didn't have world war ii parents were less concerned about the possibility of fascism yeah you know i mean and uh interesting it's you know they were just the nazis are are bad guys i mean that's the you know this it's it's one of those wars that are

Just unequivocal. They must be stopped. You know what I mean? Was it interesting, Mike? We might have talked. Sorry. And Dunkirk, the movie, they didn't say Nazis. They said the enemy. Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that. Yeah. They never say Nazi. They say enemy planes. Enemy. David? Sorry to interrupt. I was just saying that question was stupid, but this one's even dumber. So you... By the way, I saw...

Bohemian Rhapsody. And, uh, I didn't know it was you. And I saw it again. And then I figured out, I was like, Mike's in that. And then my friend goes, you said, you know, Michael, I do. Let me just look closer. You said, you know, your friend's awfully angry. I just want to say, you said you knew him. Yeah. I go, I hate you. I know him when he's in the movie. What do I do? And then, and then, uh, also I thought it's, it's, it's a real, uh,

uh testament to success in snl when i see or just your life when you have halloween costumes right see you guys there's there's always been a couple and with mike it's awesome powers and there's uh

obviously wayne's world with other per that's always a great one like couples do it or two girls usually two girls two girls when i i run into them both with wigs two girls one's wayne one's guard that's a huge one still that just shows how long and obviously shrek and there's uh i've seen some coffee talks uh i think back into richmond middle age man yeah they're it's just fun to have that's out there and just stays alive that's the funnest

success is going oh look people you know that's that's the biggest flattery i love it when someone gives me a specific compliment have you had a compliment just someone on the street or on a subway or something that says something to you that's obscure in a way and they they loved it well i um

I went for I went as a British soldier for Halloween two years ago. Surprise, surprise. I may have I may have a couple of British Army uniforms. And OK. And this 20 something young person comes up to me and goes, hey, I love your work. Thank you very much.

B, thank you for having the Halloween costume that I thought you might have. Which is like, oh, well, somehow that was a great compliment. The funniest one I've ever had was being in a cab in New York. And, you know, sometimes the bike guys grab the handle to get a little of the cab ride. Yeah. Some guy was grabbed the handle and then with the other hand just pointed at me and went.

Famous! And then took off. Famous! Famous! All right, let's talk about that for a second because, okay, Mike wrote this really cool book about Canada because Mike loves Canada probably as much as anybody who's then ever become an American citizen. I don't know. Canadian hero. Yeah.

Well, he's I have to say this because I know how big it is. This award Mike is the office of the Order of Canada and he's on a stamp. Yeah. Then he writes this book and I just was looking at it today because you sent it to me. Thank you very much. And there's this quote in here that I thought was so interesting.

about fame. Fame is not creativity. It's the industrial disease of creativity. Pretty potent thing to say. But I mean, you've never pursued it in a classic sense. And some people do, don't judge it, but we live in an era now where fame is talent. The pursuit of talent is fame. The modernization of fame is

outstrips talent often, just for fame's sake. So anyway, what would she say? Am I cutting out? No, no, I got you. You're back now, sorry. As Linda Richmond say,

Talk amongst yourselves. Was that in there? Yes. When you had Madonna out there, I was like, oh my God. You had her for Wayne's World too. Yeah. And she had Coffee Talk at Home Base. She was, yes. With Barbara Streisand and Roseanne Barr. Oh, that's a big one. Shit. That was a big one. Streisand is Streisand. I mean. Yeah. There is, there is.

I was opening up Amstel lights for Lauren at that time. And the tall, the tall poor. And the monitors under the bleachers. David is so. Amstel lights. That's firm.

I know. In a big giant glass? The giant glass, he'd start the pour low and then he'd bring his hand up like two feet above the pour of the glass. Under the bleachers, modern is the best. They go, oh, no. And he'd go, maybe this one, do it, fix it a little bit. It felt like it faded out at the end. And Liz...

Aaron would look at me and go, you heard him. I've said this before, but I guess once in a while, I was out there really mugging it up, like not going to do it. All that. Lauren, Lauren was, I think affection would say, looking at the monitor under the bleachers go, he's a fucking show pony.

And I got what I didn't take offense to it. I go, yeah, at times I am just a bald face ham, just trying to shove it down the, you know, which is when, uh, Lauren's always so funny, but he goes, uh, when Sinead O'Connor ripped up that picture and, uh,

and then I was out there so I picked up a piece of it yeah Kenny among us they need that back but uh I walked over and Lauren was drinking uh and I was like it went dead silent I went to a commercial and he goes Irish you're already an alcoholic that was it I was like oh I didn't really get it I go yeah

Well, I remember the Sinead episode, and when I saw that, I don't know. I guess she felt that maybe we shunned her, but I was just shy and nervous. I wasn't upset about it. I know a lot of Catholics. I'm very fond of them, but there were issues with that church for a while. She might have been a little...

I had a little bit of a point at some point. Yeah. I mean, I, I didn't feel like I can't have a conversation with that person. I mean, you know, just, yeah. And I would have given her a hug if I thought back in time that she was feeling that ostracized and wounded by making a political statement on Saturday night live. So anyway, this will be the thing that'll trend now. I said, whose side should I keep? That would keep my job. But, um, uh,

But Mike, I did walk out there and I had a light show, shocker. And so she did it. What's your net worth? Come on. And I went out and I picked up a little piece and I put it in my pocket. And I just go, yeah. By the way, I'm not even that religious. I don't really know how heavy that was, what was going on. I just, because I'm Arizona, I just had a piece and I go, that was weird. And then-

on my on Sunday night on hard copy or something there's a obviously a huge story and then they go tonight we uh uh Shane O'Connor in the and the picture that around the world and they show the rip picture and one piece is missing on my desk I go wait that's the real picture and then Monday and I started bragging about it of course and then Monday Kenny Amon called me in

David. David Fubini : Producer. Robert Leonard : And Kenny Emong was great. And I went in, he goes, "There's a rumor you have a..." And he goes, "We'll need that back." And I go, "What? I have what?" Of course, stalling for about five seconds. And then I gave it to him so I wouldn't get fired. And then

And then he said what happened was they found out some crew guys sold it for ten thousand dollars. Oh, shit. And I was in on it. I go, I'm not I'm not the master. On Monday before the host meeting, I went into Lauren's office for a second. And as I was walking out, I heard him say, he said, Marcy, get me the pope. And so I guess he called him. Sorry. Anyway, inside joke. Lauren can call anyone in the world and they'll pick up.

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He did, yes. Damn it! Yes. An incredible full circle thing in life. Wow. It was during Austin Powers 3. And it was the day that it was Tom Cruise, Danny DeVito, Gwyneth Paltrow, Steven Spielberg, all in that fake opening of Austin Powers called Austin Pussy. And I got a call-

And I got a call in the morning from Gavin DeBecker, who's a security specialist. And he said, dead letter. And I thought, oh, shit, like somebody wrote some weird threatening letter.

But when I got up that morning, it was George Harrison had died. And I always felt very close to George. I kind of have the George Harrison face. There's like five faces in Liverpool and I have the George Harrison, as did my dad. My dad and George Harrison look very much alike. And I cried like a baby. And I was like, oh, man, this is this big day. And it was raining. I thought, oh, shit.

we have to cancel this big day this is a horrible day then somebody wants to kill me i'm thinking and then the day turned out to be fantastic and one of the most amazing days ever and i got a knock on the door and it's the last letter that george harrison's ever written anybody and it's he's an austin powers fan he goes i was looking all over europe for a midi you doll

And anyways, I love the films. Okay. Yeah, I know. And I was like, oh, shit. It literally got hot in my hands. It's up on my wall. It's one of my treasured.

That is just one of those. I can't believe it. I mean, a lot of these full circle moments that happen, that's probably one of the most, the parents from Liverpool, you going into show business, you doing this, you're writing this incredible wave of these franchises, Wayne's World, Awesome Powers. And then you get a letter from George Harrison. I mean, it's just, there's no way for me to process it. I don't know how you would process it. It's just beyond. Beyond, yeah. Yeah.

And so lovely. An exciting time was when we were in London for Williams World 2, sitting next to Paul McCartney. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah. For the premiere. And he was talking a lot during the show, and I was nervous. And he was like, well, that's a funny bit. Did you write that? And I'm like, yeah.

Yeah. And you're trying to focus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Look up there. Did it take you a long time to write that? I'm like, yeah, it took forever. Look, I was like, my joke, my joke was that I would wish I was next to the quiet one instead of the cute one. Yeah. But he was, but it was pretty, pretty spectacular. You guys were there. I had left the show the week before, uh,

Paul came to host, which I regret. I've gotten to interact with Paul in different ways at different times, but that must have been cool. Just having Paul around, you know, doing sketches. Oh yeah. It was amazing. That day, were you there when he had the mini concert or had you left at that point, Dana? Yeah.

I think I'd left. So did he do it like Eric Clapton? At the end of the show. Eric Clapton did that too, right? The show ended and Eric Clapton did like a half hour of jamming. I says Paul did the same thing. Well, yeah. So my brother Paul had come down from Toronto for this Paul McCartney show.

And it was very amazing. So Linda was there. Linda McCartney was there. And Paul had met Paul McCartney at the Williams World 2 opening. And Linda, my dad had just passed away. And Linda said to my brother Paul, hey, Paul, sorry to hear about your dad, which was just amazing. How did you remember that? You know what I mean? Very, very Linda. Yeah.

just so lovely. Yeah. And Paul was very moved by that. And then we went and he played Let It Be. Yeah. Which is kind of thematic. And people were, there's not a dry eye in the house. And I was on the Toons' car. Do you remember Toons' the cat? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Jack Handy. So me and Paul were arm and arm on the Toons' car. And next to us was Bill Murray and his brother.

Wow. Good Lord. And it was just, you can't believe it. Like, he's right there. You know what I mean? Sort of like Eiffel Tower, Empire State Building, Paul McCartney right there. You just can't fucking believe it. No one gets used to seeing Paul McCartney. Every day of his life, no one can fucking deal with it. By the way, Mike, when that happened, Frank instead of... He goes, I remember we were talking about that like a week later. He goes, I remember...

he was telling someone that Paul McCartney played Let It Be. And I started crying. And then I walked over and stole some jeans from the Gap Girls set.

Did he say that seriously? He's like the penguin all of a sudden. Yeah, it was all serious. Then he goes, and I went and stole some jeans from the Gap Girls set. Because there was so many. It was like a real set with a security guard because there were so many. That's kind of brilliant in a way of like looking at sets to kind of harvest stuff and the shoplift sets. And it's so funny though. I mean, on the heels of that, let it be where everyone was crying. Yes. Oh my God. Well, the...

The next morning, we went to the John Lennon circle, me and Paul. In Central Park with all the people. Just as Bill Murray and his brother also came to the Imagine Circle at Strawberry Fields. And it was kind of, I don't know, this...

It was kind of a huge moment. It's just every one of Beatles fans, I mean, is Bill and his brother like at the level of you and your brother Paul? Because I guess there's levels to it or it's just like a fanaticism that we can't let go of because it just keeps giving all the time. You go back and revisit the music and you go, seriously? No. But if you've had a little bit of fame, you can't imagine their level of fame.

Their fame is famous. Do you know what I mean? They're famously famous. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's one aspect of it. The other aspect of it is just, it's just...

the type of show business that you wanted to be in you know what i mean that's what i always wanted to be on saturday night live i didn't know saturday night live would be there for me i always wanted to be on letterman yeah i always wanted to be on the tonight show with johnny carson yeah i never got to be on the tonight show with johnny carson but i always wanted to be and it's just sort of just in general the beetle like it's specific the beatles but in general american show business

I don't think if you didn't grow up in this country, how magical American show business is. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's just the, it's the best show business in the world. And you're in other countries too, because it's America. I think. Yeah. And that's what the Beatles always said. We've got to get a number one in America before we go there. Yeah. That was their, that was their enchanted land, you know, but you know, just growing up in Canada, uh,

My dad worshipped the United States because of show business. You know what I mean? He wasn't like, oh, them Americans. He was like, they do it right and they're fantastic. And even my mom, when Wayne's World came out and it was a big hit, you know what I mean? My mom, I said, did you see Wayne's World? She said, oh, yes, it's very good. I said, yeah. She goes, oh, that Dana Carvey is very good, isn't he?

She would use me to inspire you or something. What is she talking about? What do you mean? She goes, it's just the Americans. They just have it. They just have it. And Slick wasn't a bad thing. Slick was like, yeah, I never really identify as I'm an American comedian, you know.

- But you were to me. - But I was. - But I just am. - But that's funny, Dana. That's so funny because you are to me. - Yeah, I totally understand. I grew up there. I am an American comedian.

we as an american land whatever that song was so you two guys together from the outside like someone like me uh and the other dudes and salmon we were always like looking at you guys holy this these guys are crushing everything they go into every read through we get to see it we're like it's just like a class you you watch how these are put together and you watch

that everyone's really trying, you know what I mean? You go, oh, no one's walking through it. You're like, hey, we're famous. It's like every week everyone's grinding and stressed and going, fuck, we got another week. Who cares about last week? It's over. What are we doing this week? And who's the new host? And oh, it's Glenn Close. What are we doing? You know? But, you know, we came from stand-up, David and I. So then I get on Saturday Night Live and now I'm doing sketch comedy. And so that became such a joy as it went on. Yeah.

you know, being out there with Phil and Carson or Mike with Wayne's World or Kevin with Hans and Franz of like bouncing off someone, wanting them to be great. You wanting to be, you know, they're pinging you, you're going to ping them back. It's a very exhilarating feeling to be part of an ensemble that's,

scoring and then it's the turners and it's yes bonnie and terry turn conan and it's jack handy and it's christine zander robert smigel robert smigel just like writing these fantastic sketches and you're just like you know i i couldn't believe the level of of the comedy writing i mean i watched it for half a season you know and studied it like i made my own running orders when i was at home you know

But when you're there and it's so intimidating, you know what I mean? Well, you're trying to write against the writers, which are unreal. You don't know when you get there because they're not like famous, but you go, holy fuck, these guys know what they're doing. And then you go, oh, and I have to write against cast members that are great. Right. And they're writing stuff. So you go, where do I fit in here? But it was fun to score with someone else's piece. Remember we did Jagger and Keith Richards. And I think they wrote that, Downey or someone wrote it. I didn't write on it.

And then they were so pleased that it worked and you know, it's fine. Sorry, go ahead, Mike. No, no, not at all. I just, I just remember Downey too was great because he didn't, he would just go, I think there's a joke that's kind of like a joke and then a joke would emerge.

And you're like, I didn't know you could dial up jokes. Like to me, jokes were like, they came to you like lightning and they're putting your hand in there. Hot. You know what I mean? You had to put them down. That's a good observation. Jokes. Yeah. He was like, he would say there's something very funny about, and then he would say it. Right. Yeah. And then the joke would emerge. And that, I have had to do that now. Like I've had to do that in my half having left Saturday at life. We're,

Just having to, sometimes you just need to dial up a joke. And I didn't know it was actually possible until I saw Jim Downey. I thought it was something that they did on the Dick Van Dyke show as that wasn't real. Right. With the staff and the whole. Yeah. Where they're trying to jam jokes. I didn't think actually anybody did jam jokes. Yeah. Interesting. In that way of like, we need, it's kind of like we need a short joke and it should be a, something that's a comment. And I'm like,

you can't dial up jokes that way that's the math of it that's challenging and fascinating does it fit here does it will it lead us anywhere else and you know but yeah they were good at like the breakdown of the sketch instead of just like we were just kind of comedy guys you know right probably in there but you too maybe where you go this is funny this is funny and then they're like breaking on the sketch and that's how they find it they go it needs this and everything points to a certain

The joke it's going to be. And then they go, that's, they're cracking a code that I, that you figure out. It takes a long time. It takes a long time. And I was very inspired and intimidated at the same time. One of the best joke jokes,

clinicians was Conan Conan O'Brien here. I once wrote a sketch and he said, is this your sketch? I said, yeah. He said, do you mind if I rewrite it? And I was like, no, not at all. Cause he was so nice to me, Conan all the time. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then he just sort of went and

And he handed it to me and it was a thousand times better. That's a great feeling. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. I said, now it all one joke flows to the next joke. You know what I mean? Well, I couldn't believe it. You know what I mean?

Just handed it back to me. Yeah, I mean, Conan is brilliant. Yeah, and I do think that you got to the whatever level, five-star level as a writer when you look at Wayne's World and Awesome Powers. I mean, just flowing and really just this is funny and this is funny and here's a storyline. All of a sudden, something's kind of sweet and human and then back into it. I mean, just densely, beautifully written, like irresistibly...

like kind of an irresistible stew, you know? I mean, I don't think movies like Awesome Powers make that much money, you know, anymore. Right. You know what I mean? It made like blockbuster box office, you know? And yet it's so weird and quirky and, you know, so anyway. I think that there's, I think that again,

I learned so much from everybody at Saturday Night Live and you had to learn or you were out. You know what I mean? That was one thing too. And I think that one of the things I'm very grateful for having worked in England is that

And I've said this to you, Dana, a few times, but the subject matters that you can do comedy about in England. They're very, very wide. You know what I mean? Yes, which I like. There's a lot of different subjects. Yeah. And, you know, I had such a weird comedy circuit when I lived in London that just went. And also, I think, too, that Jack Handy was a giant influence, too. Yeah. His was eloquent. Right. Unbelievable. Like, happy fun ball is just. Happy fun ball. Wow.

Do you remember the round of applause after Happy Fun Ball? I watched that one. It's being dropped on our troops in Iraq. It has come from space. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. It's fun! The corniest commercial and then...

No, he's brilliant. We talk about him a lot on this show. Yeah. Jack Handy? Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah, the sketch I was in with Christopher Walken where we're coming down in the spaceship. We're aliens, I guess. And then our landing gear would hurt a farmer and we come out. We come in peace. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. And over and over again and stuff like that. And there was one I talked about last week. Maybe you'll remember it where people were like at a convo

kind of an alien court and the aliens are way high up and all the aliens want to talk about is box office receipts for movies. Like, didn't they? Because it was just about that obsession with what a movie makes and all that. Oh, that's so hilarious. And then me and Nealon about to launch a rocket with binoculars, but then Lassie is underneath the rocket. Oh, okay, let's stop. Then Hitler goes. Then the Mona Lisa's under there. So Jack Handy, look him up.

Anybody wants to write comedy. Should we let Michael go? I think Mike has a career and a family, last I checked. I have a family, that's for sure. He definitely has a wonderful family. Mike Myers, what can we say? A Canadian delight. Thank you. A hall of fame of everything. What else? And still out there doing everything, doing the shows. Where do you live now? And then I'll let you go. I live in New York City.

Okay, what big streets. Now, do you live on Bay and Bloor or are you in Canada? I don't know, but I did live very close to Bay and Bloor. What they call Blow Yo. Is that what they call it now? When I was there, we called it Bay and Bloor. Oh, I see. When I was there years and years ago, we did three movies up there. A lot of fun. Love Canada. Well, thank you, Mike. Thanks for having me.

And great talking to you. We'll be texting soon. All right. Yes, please. Enjoyed it. See you later. Bye-bye. Hey, what's up flies? What's up, please? What's up people that listen. We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions. Ask us anything, anything you want. You can email us at fly on the wall at cadence, 13.com. Andrew LaPosha. Hello guys.

Thanks for what you're doing. I like when they say that first. You're welcome. It's so awesome. My question, who did you most want to host SNL that never got to? I'd say Tina Fey. That's my answer to everything. No, who are you thinking? I'm just thinking of who I'd want to hang out with. So like, and they were musical guests, but I would like to have been on the show when Neil Young was the ghost. I would have had Neil Young on church chat. Well, our voice is sort of like a lady's voice, isn't it?

Old man. You know what's really ironic is Church Lady, I was, this is what Judd Apatow would help me with, make an album where Church Lady sings Neil Young. Because I can't sing, but as Church Lady's singing, it sounds exactly like Neil Young. Okay, I'll show you. First, Neil Young. Old man, look at my life. I'm a lot like you were. Church Lady.

Oh man, look at my life. I'm a lot like you were. Well, isn't that special? No, it's true. I can sing as Neil Young, but I have to sing as Church Lady singing as Neil Young. And that's my answer too. All right. Thank you, Andrew.

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