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David: 学习新语言对个人发展和文化交流大有裨益,学习语言可以增进对文化的理解,并且对大脑有益,学习新语言永不嫌晚,也永不嫌早。 Luke Wilson: 喜欢这个播客节目轻松幽默的风格,欣赏节目中对喜剧的讨论方式,分享了在飞机上遇到的趣事以及对电影拍摄的看法,以及自己对喜剧演员兼具敏感和叛逆精神的看法,并分享了自己童年时期与父亲的关系对他产生的影响,以及他如何看待自己职业生涯中的成功和挑战。 Dana: Luke Wilson是一位优秀且低调的演员,Wilson兄弟有独特的口音,让人感到放松,Luke Wilson在电影《地平线》中饰演牛仔角色很出色,Luke Wilson是一位有魅力的演员,让人想和他一起玩。 David: David的口音听起来焦虑且讨好,分享了在片场遇到的一些趣事,以及对一些电影幕后故事的看法,以及对一些演员的评价。 Luke Wilson: 分享了自己高中时期的体育经历对他产生的深远的影响,以及他如何看待自己职业生涯中的成功和挑战,以及他如何看待自己与父亲的关系,以及他如何看待自己与朋友们之间的关系。 Dana: 分享了与Gene Hackman合作的经历,以及对Gene Hackman的评价,以及对电影拍摄过程中的一些看法。

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Luke Wilson discusses his high school track career and how his early experiences shaped his path into acting. He reflects on the influence of sports and his transition into the entertainment industry.
  • Luke Wilson was a nationally ranked track runner in high school with a time of 1:53 in the half mile.
  • He realized the importance of sports after he stopped playing them competitively.
  • He discusses the transition from athletics to pursuing a career in film.

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Well, if I tour the road, I would go to mostly English places, but sometimes I want to go to these other countries. And I do feel a little insecure about going without knowing a language and it's, it's never too late, but it's also never too early. I mean, when I, I should have done more when I was younger, this is Rosetta Stone we're talking about. And

You should try to get in on this quickly because you probably learn quicker when you're younger. Definitely. You learn about cultural appreciation. You appreciate cultures when you start to learn a language and go to the culture. And also it's good for your brain, David. It does wake up your brain. Like I, I do like to study stuff about comedy and when I'm on the road and trying to memorize stuff, but yeah,

Definitely don't use the brain like that anymore. And I think it wakes it up and it's very good for you. You know, like you travel more. If I even go to Mexico, which is very close, I don't know if you know where it is, Dana. It's straight down from here. Straight down. I thought that was Hungary on our border. You thought it was Canada or Chechnya. Yeah, Canada is up and then Chechnya is down. Anyway, I'll look it up.

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cool hand luke that guy's a stud dude handsome and charming clean he looks he looks all tough yeah i click no boxes this dude's just a box clicker and he also golfs he's really good at golf yeah there's no red flags he's just a box clicker he's such a goddang box clicker it's unbelievable yeah he just walks around checking boxes and uh

Looking cool and he sounds Southern. Great actor. I think it's real. I think it's real. Those, you know, those Wilson brothers, they got their own kind of accents called the Wilson brother accent. It's like just a very cool, it kind of makes you mellow out. Yeah. Just chill. It just mellows me out. Yeah. Cause you're not anxious. You get. Yeah. Mine is called, my accent is more like thirsty and anxious.

Yeah. People pleasing, gross. I'm a people pleaser. I got the disease of please. I'm gonna become a bad Annie. I got the disease, the disease to please. Disease to please. Yeah, blam me up. And he's also in Horizon, which you've seen all of and I've seen some of because I love Costner and it's, I like it. It's cool. And he's cool, of course.

He is effortlessly makes a great cowboy and there's a great, there's an incredible scene in there. So we do talk about working with Costner and that movie and also his new movie. You got to believe.

You got to believe. And that's a family picture around a baseball coach who falls ill and the team. And it's based on a true story. So check that out. Mr. Greg Kinnear, who I used to see more of, but he's out there. Greg Kinnear. I think he's a client of Gervitz. No wonder you don't see him so much. He doesn't like money. You like money?

- No, he's great. He's always great at things. For us, it was kind of fun 'cause we like to talk about ourselves. Luke was curious about us. Some guests like to ask questions, so that was sort of fun talking about ourselves a little bit. - Yeah, I like to talk about me. - He's just a charmer. He's the guy you wanna hang out with. - Reese Witherspoon, what's that movie? The huge one. Heather, what's it called? It's her first one with, she's a lawyer.

- God, you don't know it? - Blondes, blondes, blondes. - Legally Blonde. Legally Blonde really stumped the panel. Anyway, and he was in old school. He's in so many movies. - Old school, Legally Blonde. Yeah, there's just tons of movies. - Love it, all right. Well, enough of us. Here he is, Luke Wilson.

He looks cool. Shit, put your clothes on, dude. Damn. Hey, guys. I want to thank you for appearing on my podcast, Talking with the L Train. I appreciate that. Just want to get a couple of ads out of the way here.

Dana, I'm going to have you read one for Miramax Films, and David, yours is going to be for Anthony Pelicano Private Investigation. Okay. I am emailing you guys the text. God, I love it. It's so efficient. I'm recording for Dana's World. It's a little side pod, just so you know. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I'm doing some drone footage of this. Okay.

Great to see you guys. Long time, first time, as they say. Yeah. You remember ours though, right?

You, you, you, me, Nealon and your brother had dinner at this restaurant. Yeah. Right. And the next day the economy was shut down. Stay in, stay indoors. Right. Basically. Yeah. No, I was just thinking about that dinner. Cause I've never been back to that place. And I think, I think Owen had just done that hiking with Kevin thing. And then that's how we all happen to have dinner.

But yeah, I was thinking about that. That's the only time I've ever gotten the chance to meet you. So.

Well, we just scattered. That was it. We just scattered. I don't really put numbers in my... I'm getting better at putting numbers in my phone. So I thought of calling or texting you guys. And when your brother got SNL, I think he gave a text to me, but he didn't say his name. And I was like, who is this? I didn't really... Anyway. Yeah, that was great when he did SNL. I was... Because I think he was...

Yeah, he had not done it for a long time. And I think he and Lorne are good friends. So it was cool when he got the chance to do that. Are you the only brothers that have done it or it must have been other brothers? No, they're both have hosted. There have to be a few others. Didn't the Gibbs do it? The Gibbs? The Gibbs?

Andy Barry did it did Harvey and Bob Weinstein do it at one time maybe the Kelsey brothers at some point will both be on Moe Howard's grandson hosted early season though I don't know

I think you guys might be the only ones, but all right. I'll always think of you as a one 54 half miler, but we can move on to your movie career. One 53, one 53. I mean, if we're talking about it, yeah. One 53 in high school for casual listeners. This is a national class. This is a guy who's going to go maybe on a scholarship to a college at one 53 in high school. And you're, and you're a good runner too. Do you know?

Not at your level. You faded out. 427 mile does not translate to 153. I wish I had pursued it. I didn't. I kind of, I didn't realize how kind of important high schools or just sports were to me until I stopped playing them after high school. Yeah. I guess that's always the thing. We had a team. We had a, my high school program was like a college program.

It was pretty, pretty unbelievable. But anyway, for people who have turned us off at this point, for you track fans, our guest today. Look at this stud. He looks like the Marlboro Man. We got Horizon. Dana saw you in Horizon. I like a big fat ass Western. By the way, I loved it and I loved you in it. You are an IMBD fan.

I don't know who writes this stuff, but it was kind of cool. It referred to you as the handsome Texan, Luke Wilson. That's what I wrote in mine. I want to be called the handsome. My grandmother might have written that a few years ago. Yeah, no shit.

So just because Horizon's right up on our near horizon, you also have a new movie out. I loved it. I think it's going to... That's not even why I'm here, guys. I'm excited to talk to you guys. I mean, I'm really...

I hadn't, you know, hadn't really gotten into listening to podcasts. And then I'd heard, you know, about you guys having this one. It was kind of SNL related. And then I'd gotten to, I mean, I've listened to pretty much all of them. And then for me, the funniest thing is, it's like, it's the only time I've ever enjoyed listening to people talking about comedy where I haven't been like, why don't you fucking make me laugh?

Instead of telling me how hard comedy is.

But no, I love the show. I mean, the most recent one I listened to was Nick Swardson, which is a really funny one. And then, gosh, I listened to one that was a couple of years old. But you guys got to kidding around about just pilots and making connections and being stuck on planes. And gosh, it was so funny.

Shit. I was going to tell Dana, I had this girl on this plane this last week. I was on the road and it's all silent in first class or whatever class I was in. And she goes, I pop up like a meerkat. I'm like,

because no you can't just get away with that and then everyone's quiet and then she goes again really deep one and so of course i wake the guy next to me i'm like hey man like it's a terrorist like we got a situation dude like what are we doing because something's going on there's germs everywhere and then i sort of unionize everyone around me i go what like where's the air marshal like let's bring them back for this because then she sneezed i'm like oh get fucked

You're not sneezing and acting like it's nothing. We're all flying together and the stewardess is up there reading Us magazine. I go, get on this shit. Dive on that grenade. Yeah, have the air marshals just kind of quietly catered to that? Because, I mean, it was amazing for a while there. You could always see those guys, kind of the...

the kind of like ex-officio shirt on or like fishing shirt on yeah just really like doing people magazine crossword staring at everyone faking it i've gunned somebody down i flew with a guy i was terrified to fly worse than me and then on came the plane right at the end

We were in first class, but it was a pretty big first class, you know, domestic. Anyway, so six people of Middle Eastern descent came on and sat down and they all started praying. And this guy is flipping out. And I just said, I said, it's so obvious it can't be true. You're never been safer.

It's way too obvious because it was, you know. Yeah, Martin Lawrence had a great bit in like his second stand-up special about like post 9-11. That was the only time he'd really seen blacks and whites working together was, you know, on a plane kind of monitoring who was coming in on and off. Who to be racist against. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I like when they bring out the beverage cart and the flight attendants stand in front of where their arms cross. Oh, boy. Nothing's getting through that. You guys mentioned that, you know, your life depends on Marjorie and some mini bottles. That's what stands between you and...

Dude, I stand up in the back and I just pull out a little curtain to look up in first. And she's got the beverage cart and she's like, just gives her hand like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's as far as we're going right now. We got a whole thing up here. You know, you know what the Bev cart means. And so I was like, oh, you can't even get close. You can't stand up. Yeah.

They think you're making a move. I know. And on the back of her uniform, it said, stand your ground. I thought it was a little dark. I mean, do we need, she said, we're over Florida right now. I'm just trying to get to Houston. Okay. 90 minutes. I don't need some kind of action up towards the bull bull work part of the app. I lost you. You've got the Dennis Miller down and he really, he makes, it's almost like having him be the third host because he's,

He makes an appearance at every show you guys do through- Lovitz and Dennis make appearances. God, you know-

I, this, um, this week I was, for some reason I was like, Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to go back and couldn't, couldn't find anything to watch. I was like, I'm going to start the Larry Sanders show again. Um, there you guys are first season. Both of you guys are in that. That's incredible. I was in the first show. I think one of them substituting for Larry. Yeah. I think, no, that was,

That was, I think, right around four when David might have been in the first one. I think he might have beat you in there.

I don't know. I was recorded before the show premiered. Do you remember Herve Villachez? Yep, saw that one where he had the beard. Herve Villachez was my guest and because he was just from another country, he didn't know he wasn't on a real talk show. He didn't know he was doing a talk show within a talk show. So he thought he was in a real talk show. With a substitute talk show host. Dana, yours might not have been first only because

Would they have the first episode without establishing Larry has his own show? I mean, cause you're right. Yeah. Uh, I was, I think, I think mine, Luke, thanks for bringing this up. Let's just agree that you were both there for season one.

But, you know, I was even thinking about that in terms of getting into the business there. Dana got in first, then David got in. Yeah. Then I got in. Yeah. He is the silverback in the group. We have to say.

You would have loved that, Luke. Did you ever get on Larry Sanders? No, I didn't. I never... I think by the time I got to town, because I can remember watching it back in Dallas, I think it was already... I think it was already off, but I can remember seeing...

uh excuse me gary chandling around santa monica when i first got into town and then knew people like duke of me that were were friends with them and greg can hear them but yeah he was he was not the show had been finished by then but such a funny show

And the interesting part was that he did that style of shooting quasi documentary, you know, and then, and then that influenced Ricky Gervais made the office and a lot of handheld stuff. And then, and then we got our office, but he did, there was no digital. So he had three guys with 16 millimeter cameras on their shoulders. So I'm talking to Larry, got one on me, one on Larry and a two shot.

And so you could overlap, do whatever you wanted. Every take would be its complete organic take. So it was the easiest acting. I don't know if you ever, I mean, when digital came in, that was more around, but at the time it was like, we don't just,

completely organic super real that's why it was still so much more difficult to have to do that on a film um but interesting that that yeah guys did it and i was thinking about you guys did you guys ever watch because to me the funniest show and i guess it qualifies as a sitcom is uh faulty towers

Yes. With John Cleese. And it only ran for two seasons. But that to me is just...

you know, unbelievable. Dana, you saw that. I don't think I saw that. If you're not seeing it, you've got to watch that. I mean, the guy, I'm sure it's one of those things that's scripted, but he is so funny with the sides and muttering that it seems unscripted. Ah, that's me. Yeah. Oh, gosh. It's unbelievable. And yeah, only went for two seasons, so probably only about 20

20 episodes. If I think 28 or something, it's like kind of like the honeymooners or something, but John Cleese, John Cleese, I think the honeymooners is only 28. Did that only go a couple of seasons?

Yeah, just not that many. They only got 50 million viewers, so they had to cancel it back then. All right. But John Cleese and Monty Python, you know what I mean? Yeah. They're just... And your dad, sorry, insert. Your dad, it's just a fun fact. This is a trivia. Your dad brought Monty Python to America. Well, my dad was working at a PBS station in Dallas, Channel 13, and

K-E-R-A.

Had maybe a Monty Python. Did they have a record before they had anything televised? But anyhow, he's the one who had said to my dad, these guys are unbelievable. They're from England. We've got to get them on on the show. And then they got the guys to come to Dallas and.

where they had kind of a wild couple of nights with those guys. But yeah, it was at first air on KERA in Dallas. But yeah, it was really my friends, my dad's friend, Ron DeVillier, who got my dad to do it. It says here it was your dad. So we're going to go with that. Okay, good.

And so you sort of got into that kind of comedy. Like when I was a kid, I saw Life of Brian. I was a kid, but I thought, holy shit, it was like rated R. But I thought that was so fucking funny and it was not like what I'd seen before.

regular stuff I'd seen, you know? Yeah. I can remember when that came out, somehow that's, it was kind of over my head and I, and I still haven't seen all the Monty Python stuff. And I know, you know, it's one of those things where people, yeah, I have not, I don't think I've seen the whole thing.

I didn't get all the stuff because I was too young and I don't, and it's also some English humor, but I just remember thinking there were boobs in it. Maybe that was it. Yeah. It's like, maybe that's why I liked it. Benny Hill could keep you keyed in. Somehow that kind of,

was over my head at the time, but I've since like, there are all these kind of documentaries about Monty Python. I just find those so funny because they're all such like, you know, Eric Heidel and Graham Chapman, and they're all such funny guys. Um, and just all that stuff of, they all kind of went to the same, you know, uh,

the kind of these boys schools like Eaton and then I think they all went to one of two colleges like Oxford and I can't remember what the other one was but they're all I mean especially of course John Cleese is just so funny yeah but they do seem like kind of I mean that's one thing I wanted to ask you guys about because I mean one thing I always think about

you know, funny people. And, you know, it was somehow they have kind of also very sensitive, but also like a,

quietly kind of rebellious spirit to like, you know, to where you can get told when you're, you know, a kid. And I'm not including myself. I'm talking about guys like you. And I think about people like Mike judge where like, you can get told like that. That's not, that's not funny. You need to grow up. You need to get serious and not do that. Where a lot of people say, Oh, yeah, that's, that's true. I need to stop imitating this person or walking funny or whatever.

you know, that kind of thing where I think there's a kind of a rebellious spirit in there that I find really interesting that you guys have. Um, it,

It may be a little bit of a through line of some kind of childhood connection. Not that a childhood would completely create a full-form person as a genetic component, but there's a little bit of passive aggressiveness into it. I noticed later that all my characters were cocky and aggressive. Church lady Hans and Franz, we could take both of you. And I thought, what? And I'm a nice guy and I have the disease to please. It's true.

But as a comedian, I could just be kind of passive aggressive. And I mean, I had heard you, you know, talking, maybe it was on Howard Stern, just kind of talking about how your, your dad, how he could be kind of hard on you. Like you and a, you and a friend were like trying to fix a car, like a lawnmower in the yard. A weed killer thing. Have you thought about using your penis? Yeah.

- No, I said, "Dad, what tools should I use for this?" Me and my best friends in junior college in the garage, just in the morning, "What tools should I use?"

And he was just in a mood. He was just in a moment. He's in the garage. He said, quote, and we never forgot it. Oh, Jesus Christ. Use your penis. You shit head. My judge has a great one about his father. And I think his dad was, I think like a archeology professor, but he'd left the house one day. He told Mike to, to mow the lawn and, and,

And I think it was Albuquerque and he got home at the end of the day and Mike hadn't mowed the lawn. And Mike is one of those people when he'll imitate someone, he'll kind of contort and turn into the person, but he'll see him turn into his dad where he's like, I told you to mow the goddamn lawn. Yeah.

But I also think it's something that ties into like musicians. Like I'll think about like Tom Petty. He's one of those guys that had like a tough dad or like, you know, Bruce Springsteen had like a dad that like didn't communicate with them. I mean, so I don't know. I think it's kind of one of those things where you can retreat. Yeah. It's also, there's a little bit of attention getting when I was no dad around. So, and I was, you'll never believe this. I was a bit of a pipsqueak.

growing up and uh so that was your nickname small fry shrimp cocktail yeah i had i had a few of those yeah uh fruit cake fruit cup fruity um any derivative

any derivative of fruit yeah now back then fruit sort of had a negative connotation i can't well you guys revenge revenge yeah it was a different time hey folks fruit cocktail fruit cup that that was fruity fruity shorts fruit pain yeah fruity pebbles fruit lover so

So I was sort of like whispering jokes around almost just to survival mode in school and not confident enough to think the joke should be at full volume. So I would just say it. And if anyone laughed, I'd be like, oh, that was a joke. And if they don't laugh, you go, I wasn't. Yeah, that was just a muttering. Yeah, it was a mutter. And so that sort of got me through. But there is something to all that stuff. I really think there is. And did you guys ever...

I always think the friends you had back then, I always think with really funny people like you guys, you had to have been around other really funny kids, but where you guys would have kept moving in the direction of where you wound up, where they would have done the thing that I was talking about, where they would have...

grown up gotten serious the hard part Luke is right after college because that's the big split where you go go to college or I do this stupid fucking shenanigans that make no money and it oh look at my balloons what just happened this happens on our I know what how did I cue that I heard you guys talking about

This is it. You see it, Luke. We just had balloons pop up. It's such a great way to make the point. I don't know how it works. It's so much funnier. We got to show it on video. I found it kind of moving. You were talking about it. It was. I was giving a speech. It was emotional. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, who cares? All right. I'm going to tell you something about LinkedIn, Danny, which you probably already know. But, you know, when you're hiring for a small business, you want to find quality professionals or right for the role.

That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. Now, when I was getting a job at Bullocks, which is a clothing store in Arizona, they said I had the best meeting and the worst performance. So they would have weeded me out here at LinkedIn Jobs because they have the tools to find the right professionals for your team faster and for free.

That's exactly right. I mean, it is very difficult to know who you're hiring and comprehensively to get them vetted by LinkedIn gives you takes, you know, takes away the hassle of finding new people. I mean, LinkedIn isn't just a job board, David. LinkedIn helps you hire professionals you can't find anywhere else. Even those who aren't actively searching for a new job, but might be open to the perfect role. Do you understand?

Yeah. I mean, listen, I feel like I get it. In a given month, over 70% of LinkedIn users don't visit the other leading job sites. So if you're not looking at LinkedIn, you're probably looking in the wrong place.

Well said. On LinkedIn, 86% of small businesses get a qualified candidate within 24 hours. Hire professionals like a professional on LinkedIn. 86%. That's a good percentage. Who has the time? Dana, you're a small business. You're out there trying to just run a show and you can't just stop everything and try to interview and make calls and bring people. You just call LinkedIn.

It's easy. Bing, bang, boom, beep, bop, boop. Quicker. Post your job for free at linkedin.com slash candidates. That's linkedin.com slash candidates to post your job for free. Terms and conditions, of course, apply. No, but really, it's true. It's true. I remember being surprised when a couple of my best friends say, you want to be

You want to be a stockbroker? You never told me that. I didn't know that. And I said, well, what do you want to do? I said, I don't know. I have no idea what I want to do. Was your dad tough? I mean, you all three, you have three kids in acting. I mean, who lets that happen? No, I mean, my dad was, I know, he was a pretty, very nice kind of funny guy. And I mean, I'll think back and I'll talk about it with my brothers, just thinking like, gosh, must've been under quite a strain to have like,

you know three kids and you know boys school keeping us in school and then he had by that time by you know the late 70s he started like a little kind of advertising company just him and you know like four or five people but yeah my dad was great and you know i never i never had a

crossword with them really um but in terms of yeah i don't you know they hope for the and they certainly didn't say like you know don't don't uh try to get into movies or don't try to make a movie but they you know would have been kind of i'm sure now looking back they were kind of quietly concerned but definitely you know had the feeling where we were from in dallas you could

see people just kind of looking at us like kind of these guys that had lost their way and now it's settled on a pipe dream of wanting to get a film made what was first thing was bottle rocket is that the other just as who would know how to make something that good that fast that's so rare well i think it was just owen and wes anderson trying to write something uh

Was he a buddy? Yeah, Owen had met Wes in an English class at the University of Texas in Austin. Wes was from Houston. They didn't know each other. They were both, you know, both wrote. And then Wes, I think he'd been back to him, wanted to, you know, direct stuff. So then he and Owen did kind of a one-act play with Owen in it and Wes directing.

And then they'd written a whole script of Bottle Rocket. And it was kind of around the time of Sex, Lies, and Videotape and the Brothers McMullen where these kind of cheaper films were getting made. And we thought, okay, well, maybe we can do one of those. And they'd written a whole script. And then we learned that, well, even to do it cheaply would cost $400,000 or something. So I met this guy and

who had said, you know, you should, from the script, make a short film. And then there's this thing called the Sundance Film Festival in Utah where they have a shorts program. And this was, you know, the early days of Sundance. And then that's how it,

That's how that all works. People already saw a 13-minute version. That didn't go wide though, right? That's just investors or something? Yeah. No, it just went to Sundance. Nothing happened with it there. And then a woman named Barbara Boyle, a producer, she saw it and liked it. And she got it to a producer friend of hers, this woman, Polly Platt.

It was kind of an interesting woman, like kind of behind the scenes. She'd been married to Peter Bogdanovich and she was instrumental in getting the last picture show and paper moon made, but then they got divorced. And then she kind of became the right hand man, right hand person of James L. Brooks. And she's the one who got him to make terms of endearment. Cause that was also a Larry McMurtry book. Like,

like the last picture show and um you know they went on to make broadcast news and then she she saw the short liked it read the script got it to james l brooks and then we started this kind of long process of trying to get it to me just because at the time he was making this movie all do any anything which

at the time was kind of famously it was going to be a musical with you know i remember music by prince and and uh you know choreo choreography by twyla tharp

And, you know, Nick Nolte was in it and they did all this stuff. It was a musical and they decided to pull it. And they decided to set your Nolte. Yeah, Jesus. That's like North Dallas 48 hours. Oh, gosh. I mean, 48 hours to me is... I was just watching a lot of that last week. But anyhow, that's how it got started. And yeah, that's how it started. Holy shit. And James L. Brooks is huge. So you're like...

22 and I think around. Yeah, I can never I think around 22 or so. And I think it was about 94. We made the short. And then I think about I know the movie came out in 90, I think six. When you went back to the town, I mean, I think you were in Occidental when you went back to the hometown.

It was different, right? I mean, people were like, what the fuck? You guys are movie stars. I mean, were you a movie star then? What did it feel like? Well, I mean, you got in a big movie. When we were making, there's still, I mean, Dallas is kind of a, you know. Pretty big town. Yeah, it's a big town and also kind of a money driven, money driven town by, you know, like.

very traditional, you know, businesses and, and, you know, oil and gas. So we weren't kind of welcome back as heroes. We were still, we were still the guys that went, if anything, it was their more time. What are you guys doing? They're doing what? Oh yeah. Hey, my buddy. So it looks like you guys were filming a movie over there by the motion picture, by the kind of near downtown. You know, it's never kind of like, Hey, great job. Congratulations. Right.

they kind of shit on. We always laugh about that.

after we'd made Bottle Rocket and, you know, some producers saying to us, like, I hope you guys are ready for your lives to change. And we were like, oh yeah, we are. We are so ready. And then like, you know, getting around, okay, 30 years later, still nothing has changed. Nothing changed when Bottle Rocket came out where like, you know, came and went in two weeks.

Um, but you looked at a little differently. Like when I'm from Arizona, just the fact that I moved to LA, I was a star. I did nothing. I'm just there like, wait, you were in LA. You've been to LA and you move, you move there.

Because everyone's like, I might move to LA. No one did. And I did. And they're like, what the fuck? I mean, while I'm scraping and scratching and doing nothing, but I got an audition was like front page news. They couldn't fucking believe it. Yeah. And even with Arizona being closer, you'd think it would be less impressive. I mean, you're six hours away. They were flipping out. They couldn't believe I had a, when I got my first call back, it took about a year, honestly, but you take a while and then you get something. And then that's big news. But this little wispy nothings are,

a big deal because in my head they were a big deal to get an audition to get yeah a six minute spot at midnight uh and bomb at the improv was exciting so you know it's all the same and then you inch your way up to fame my fame never came quickly was yours quicker uh because bottle rock and then what's what was the one that people really kind of turned their head to take a while

Was it old school, Legally Blonde? I mean, I think Legally Blonde, that was maybe the first big hit where, you know, people you wouldn't expect to recognize you, you know, little kids and moms. Goes wide. Yeah. And then, you know, I guess definitely then old school where it really connected with guys and, you know,

guys who were my age at the time and then you know I don't hold it in the same level as Animal House but it was that kind of movie so it was pretty big so you get teenage boys and then you know guys our age that

But yeah, I guess with those kind of started. Well, you, Vince and Will, both all kicking on all four gears. It's great. I mean, and it was Todd Phillips too. Yeah, Todd Phillips. Yeah, that was incredible being around Will. That might have been like the first time

And SNL, I was thinking about it since, like, I've worked with so many of you guys, you know, and like Kristen Wiig, but so many SNL people. And to me, that's been, you know, besides getting to work with guys like Nolte or Gene Hackman and James Caan, that was always kind of like the most exciting thing to me. Like, okay, I'm getting to work with

you know, the guys that my dad loved and the guys that, you know, were so cool. But then getting to work with SNL people, which I've gotten to work with so many and still do. But yeah, that's always been kind of the high points. Those, those older, you know, male actors, and then you SNL people. And I know Dana, I mean, which one are we?

you guys are you guys older male snl actors now you guys are the snl actors and the and and the old studs yeah there you go did you how was gene hackman because i don't i don't know if this is true but i think it was the quick and the dead it was a sharon stone sort of produced comedy it had leonardo capro in the 90s whatever comedy no it was a western right and uh

the directors out there and the crew and everyone, and he's, and Gene Hackman and he's going, okay, so Gene, you'll walk down here. You'll pivot here. He's going like this. And Gene Hackman just said in front of everybody, okay, first of all, I'm not going to do any of that shit. And don't you ever give me a fucking direction again. Oh my God. I did see Gene get, um,

Testy. But I love a guy with that kind of control. I love that. A little hot under the collar, but I think with him, like, number one, like, you know, he's one of those guys that you always think of as being like,

age 50 but yeah even when i worked with him on the royal tenenbaums he was 72 yeah but you know he looked 50 at 30 and then he stayed always but he was also he was a marine and then you know a real actor's actor in the best kind of way but you know like a new war guy then like you know i think roommates with like

Dustin Hoffman and Robert Duvall, but I think he really put his time in and really did take it seriously. But yeah, you know, he got a little heated a couple of times and then I think he kind of settled into the movie we worked on together, The Ten Moms. But I do remember one time

you know, just kind of sitting there and I can feel Gene kind of just staring at me. You know, I look, I'm kind of looking over at my face. I'm like, oh man. I'm like, hey Gene. He's like, you remind me a lot of my son. And I was like, how do you guys get along?

But yeah, he was great. I do remember when I worked with, I mean, I always ask people that worked with him, like, you know, how was it when you worked with Gene Hackman? You were the first. Well, I mean, I loved it. I asked Nick Nolte because they worked on this movie Under Fire and Nick was like, oh, Gene and I got along great.

But he told a really incredible story about Gene losing his temper. At the end of the movie, there was some shootout, and I think the director's name was Costa Gravas, some kind of European director. But he was saying, you know, in the finale, in the middle of the street, we're going to...

That's when they killed the pig in the middle of the street, an actual pig. And Gene said, no, I'm not going to do the scene. If you're going to slaughter a pig in the scene, I'm not going to do it. Oh, really? Kill one in the scene? And he said, Gene, no, this is part of the movie. It's, you know...

It shows that everything dies at the end. It's a slaughter, whether it's a pig or human. And Gene was like, I'm not going to do it. You can film it in a way that you don't need to slaughter the pig in the scene. And he said, okay, Gene. Then they do the scene and this guy slaughtered the pig.

And Gene went ballistic on the South American location. And Gene screamed at Nick. He was like, Nick, did you know about this?

And Nick was like, no, Gene, I didn't. And then he went up to the director and said, you told me you weren't going to do that. You agreed to that. And the director said, no, Gene, I did not. I told these stupid guys not to do that. Gene was like, you're telling me you told them not to do it? He said, yes, yes. But Gene, you should have seen your reaction. It was wonderful. And then Gene blew off the handle.

Oh, yeah, of course. Did he get physical or just verbal? I think just verbal. I mean, he is a big guy, but I think that... Yeah. But I think he's also one of those guys that, like, somehow, you know, that...

what we love about him comes from that same kind of anger, you know, the way he kind of, the way he kind of chuckles and smiles. He chuckles through scenes. For a run there, he was my favorite guy. There was 10, 15 years ago, who's your favorite actor? He was definitely one of three. I would just go, Gene Hackman, he's always kind of laughing and shaking peanuts in his hand. You know, in like Mississippi Burning where he's like, you know, you got a stupid smile. Yeah. Yeah.

He always kills it all the way back. He's like, yeah, the top three were, you know, if he's in it, it's going to be, I'll go. Costner, Costner going full circle said that Gene Ackman was the best actor he'd ever worked with. Yeah. What did they do? That was when he played the Russian. Was it no way out? Yeah. Yeah. And,

And I, yeah, I talked to Costner about it too. And, and yeah, he, he thought he was the best. And then he had a thing where something about where,

they played a scene in gene's office a certain way and each time they were both sitting and this was like the third scene where they're in gene's office and kevin said to the director you know i think that i should be standing you know they're in a scene he's like no it just doesn't work if you're if you're not sitting and and uh and while kevin and the director are going back and forth kevin said you know hackman's just kind of sitting there watching it and uh

And then the director said, OK, well, what's Gene supposed to do? You know, if you're standing up, you know, over him in his office. And Costner said to him, like, Gene will figure it out. And still, you know, Hackman didn't say anything. They did this scene. And then that day, you know, in the studio parking lot, Hackman called Costner over to his car and said, oh, boy, you know,

But then Gene said, you know, you reminded me a lot of myself, you know, when I was kind of younger, a few years ago, and just you really care about what you're doing. And, you know, I think it's great. But yeah, I was just kind of sure. Yeah, no, I think he's a cool guy. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. That guy, that's the kind of you don't like that he's not in as much, you know, you're like, I want always to be the same age, just always be in movies. I know.

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Oh, yeah. Better than anything in the movie. And sometimes that you must you must both have had experiences of people going off or whatever and going, can we get this on? Oh, gosh. So much. Or just like being around like funny crew people be like, this guy's funnier than anything. Than everything in the movie. This is the teamster that I talk to every day.

I just remember being on set one day, trudging the set. I can't believe it's only Tuesday. This teamster was like, it's Thursday, Luke. I'm like, no, man. It's only Tuesday. It's Thursday. It's always Thursday.

That was this guy's motto. It's always Thursday. Only one day to go. Every day is one day to go. You ever have a crew guy stand next to you, Luke, and then they go... You might not have this because they say the fucking ballsy shit sometimes. One guy goes...

This one's a little light on the laughs, huh? I'm like, what the fuck? This movie? But I'm like a hired hand. I'm not, I didn't write it. I'm like, I mean, I don't know, dude, we're, we're doing our best with it. Oh yeah. Well now it's just like, um, you know, people texting, like you look over and see, you know,

you know, they're talking about, well, do I want this guy, you know, texting or smirking at me or looking at these guys doing funny, but yeah, definitely those, you know what, Dana, what you were saying is so many instances of like, God, if, if we could, if the movie could be as good as what's going on in the movie behind the scenes, just, I mean, uh,

when I was doing road to Wellville, Anthony Hopkins, the smartest guy in this set was the makeup head of makeup. And his name happened to be Peter Frampton, but he could dissect the script, why it's working. That's the one. No. And it was effortless for Michael. I hope he stood behind the director. Well, that was an Irish, that crew was Irish, I guess, or Scottish, whatever. But after the lunch break, uh,

The entire camera area smelled like Guinness beer. Like, I'm not kidding. Like everybody would have like eight or 10 pints would come out for the second part of this. And there was a whole drama with the director and this woman and you'd be screaming and he's hung over and then he's going after it. Like, so anyway, the making of movies. That's like, you know, I just heard someone saying like talking about Chinachita, the famous, uh,

Roman studio. I've never gotten to work there, but this actor was like, yeah, I always liked working at Chinachita. You know, you'd go to lunch and I remember drink wine and you'd go back to work. But I mean, I, gosh, I do kind of can't help but romanticize those moments.

those old days of filmmaking. Although I am kind of glad I missed that. The eight, the eighties in Hollywood sound a little dicey for safety. Well, no, just like, you know, just night shoots and like guys, you know, kind of, you know, doing, doing drugs on, on the, on the, on the different trucks. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that might still be going on. I don't love night shoots. I don't love, yeah, some sets are actually really fun. Dana, you know, some are fun. Some are fucking work. Yeah. And then there is the classic thing where you have a great time on a set, you know, and the thing doesn't work. And then there are those times when it's been a grind and it does work. You hear about like,

Deborah Winger and Richard Gere hated each other on Officer and Gentleman. And it just seems like this incredible love story where, yeah. And what is the alpha male thing of like, do we have to shoot 25 hours straight? Because the crew, the first day the crew looks fresh faced.

Three weeks in, they look like a hundred years older and like, yeah, we're going to, we're going to go triple overtime tonight. You know? And it's like the most tired I've ever been in my life literally was when I was walking to Stan Makita's, I was going to do Garth singing and dancing a song called, uh,

Foxy lady. And I'm walking there and I, I'd been on the set 21 hours. I thought this is crazy. Like the most tired I've ever in my life. Now I've got to bring it to this thing. I dreamed of my whole life, but I think they're actually kind of now like, cause I just worked on something that happens.

really long hours but you know i would come in on a tuesday and a thursday and do a scene or two so i'd always be in a great mood and just over the course of four months you just people were just a little less friendly every time i went back and some people have rap they're just angry well just just getting kind of worn out whereas like you know first week it's like

uh you know introduce introduce yourself to like the camera grip he's like hey my man like big fan like we're gonna have a good time together buddy you know a month later it's like hey look how you doing um then and you know hey luke you know your line's sick it's called a mark if you could hit it be great if you need a sandbag we can do that you gotta hit it because that's what it's lit for

Yeah, the DP's on his back under some kind of camera rig, reaching up like this, holding a light. All right, let's go. I'm always standing by some union teams are going, we're never going to use this shot. Listen, I have to do it. Whatever it is, I got to do it. They point me. I try to chime in and chirp up.

you can't get away with shit. They're just like, it's a grind. People want to fill that day. They got to fill. I don't know if I jinxed it, but I was on little Nikki and it was when Adam Sandler is, you know, the biggest movie star. But anyway, I remember it was a night shoot and it's like a Halloween film or something. Everyone's a little monster or something. And I'm standing next to Jack Jarobito, the producer. I just, without thinking, I said, is this going to work? Yeah.

because it's so hard i remember i remember i would say that to like you know mike judge on idiocracy we'd be doing something and i'd say like mike mike is this too much is it too dumb right and mike would say oh you don't think it's funny and i was like i think it's funny but i mean

I'm completely immature. I'm like, you know, 14. I of course think it's funny. I'm thinking about the critics and regular citizens. Citizens.

Yeah. We had Mike on this podcast. He's funny. And the visual on the zoom, when it, when he goes into a car, it was making me laugh so hard because he would become the character he does. And you can see him kind of like swallow and like turn. And speaking of like. King of the hill guys. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of friends, like I can remember Mike talking about these guys that he'd grown up with and, um,

He might have even talked about it on your show, but somehow, you know, they were all kind of, you know, 12 to 14. And somehow they were, they mentioned, you know, Teddy Kennedy running for president. And one of the friends said, yeah, no, he can never be president because of Chappaquiddick. And then one friend said, yeah, no, he can't be, he'll never get to be president because of Chappaquiddick. And they were like, no, no.

"Man, you don't know what the hell Chappaquiddick is." And then they got into it and said, "Yeah, I do. I'm not stupid. I know what Chappaquiddick is." And I go, "Okay, what is it?" And he was like, "Chappaquiddick is a... It's a bird."

it's a bird that's why you can't run yeah because of a bird no this guy didn't know what chap acquitted i'm saying it's funny but that's made sense to him he's like right because the whole bird thing was it david fry who did an album that had part of that on it was somewhere i remember a comedian maybe it was bonnie python david and the line was uh

Kennedy saying when I return Mary Jo and the car were gone I just remembered that I don't know God picture a Twitter back then I wouldn't be fucking analyzing oh back you couldn't kill anyone back then yeah I mean you could today it's like a Dana just did a baby Trump you see he comes up it's happening

Venus fly Trump. If they cut the sound off with his hands these days, with this, the accordion, and then the little thing with his form finger and thumb, we'll go in there, and they said this, and the baby comes out, and they do it. Sorry, you can't see that. The baby comes out. The baby comes out, and a lot of times. A lot of times. A lot of times, many people are saying it. Everyone's saying it.

Everyone's saying it. No. I'm the best person in the world. That's why I'm going to say it. Joey. Joey.

I mean, he always gets me with that because I lean in like, you know, like he would politely with kind of an over-the-top. So he said, what? Your granddad said what? What did he say? Dad lost his job. No joke. He can't do that. I like when he said they're trying to push him out. He goes, I'm not going anywhere. He goes, you know, one time in the playground, Corn Pop gave me some fucking lip, told me to get off the playground. I said, I'll bash his fucking brains in. I'm like, all right, maybe it's time. Okay.

I fucking pushed that motherfucker. Okay. Dude, Dana likes that one. Look, Luke. Look. And why is it coming up? Now you got one. I don't know. I can make it happen. What I like during that, the whole kind of, is he going to stay in or get out? Like, I guess this is just last week, but was it Jim Clyburn? I don't know where this guy's from. Clyburn. Yeah, Clyburn. But he said, I am all in. I am. Right?

Riding with Biden. That's his last thing before he quits. Yeah, it was great. He had me say that for a day. I am all in. I am riding with Biden. I mean, I'm riding with Biden. Yeah.

yeah i'm gonna i'm riding with biden and whatever joe wants to do i will support him 100 percent what dropped out well fuck me with a spoon i don't understand i never liked him that guy was a demented cadaver from day one but three seconds ago you said he was articulate one foot in the grave you're talking why are you talking about yesterday when i want to talk about the

Yeah. This guy's living in the past. Yeah. You're living in the past, and I'm talking about making things happen fast and going to excellence. I'll tell you what happened. I think that whole crew behind Biden gaslit themselves, and that's why they agreed to that first debate. I think it'd be good. You think it'd be good? Yeah. Let's put them out there with Trump.

trunk no training wheels push no oh no the puppet needs a puppet master and this don't look good i don't know what character this but it's my new character it's good and i like how when you do it somehow your your camera things start shaking oh well that's because i have a rickety oh maybe give him a japanese earthquake it's like the comment it's like it's like it's like the comedy quake

This is something you can't do anymore, but we'll just do it. This is a Japanese man in an earthquake. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? Tremor? I went away. It's fine. Wait, something's going on. Oh, no!

We've done this before. We've done this before. I know it's good. That's on fly. No, that's on super fly. Yeah. We need a number over here. I just, I used to do a bit about the origin of languages. This is part of a longer bit of where accents came from. And with the Japanese, I thought maybe it was all the seismic activity. Be gas. And yeah,

Makes no sense. I didn't do it for a while. I'm talking about the origins of accents here, okay? You're getting fixated on this

Yeah. And I, I bust myself who, why would anyone go across Europe with, you know, with their sleeping bags? Let's go find a place to live and take a hard right and go to Scandinavia. They had to be stupid. That's why they talk like this. Let's get in the snow. Okay. So I make fun of my tribe. What, what, what are you guys, by the way? What is your heritage? Irish, Scottish, Irish,

Swedish and Norwegian. What about David? You're up. I'm saying a lot of Dane and a lot of German when I look at this fella. I say German.

A lot of pasty shit. We shouldn't all be on the same zoom. It's making me and Dane look bad, but you're like tan. Is that golf related or what is it? Cause I'm angry about it. I live a hundred miles away from the person who cuts my hair. So that's why. No, your hair has got a little flip in the very, very middle. It looks good. I don't know what's going on with it, but I live a hundred miles away. Should I get a more localized haircut or person? Maybe right now. Do you live up North of LA?

Yeah. Okay. I'm out in the woods. Nice. It is an undisclosed location. Nice little estate. Yeah, I think I know the name of the town. I guess I'll not say it because I don't want to. Don't say it. Because I don't want to. What would be the equivalent of Swifties for Carbys? I don't want any Carbys. Yeah, we got some Carbys. I don't want any Carbys going out there. By the way, pop quiz, fellas. You ever met a Carvy? You've met a Carrie. You've met a Garnie. But have you ever met a Carvy? Met a Carnie.

You never met because there's only five of us in North America. No, that's good. And not a lot of spades too. Not too many spades. Got the spade brigade over here. Spade's a great name for Ace of Spades. Yeah, it is. I mean, I remember Chris Rock goes, Spade, everybody thinks we made up our names. I didn't. Did you? I go, no. And he goes, now Farley,

I've heard that one before. But even Farley somehow, you know, matched Farley. He's the Farley, though. Yeah, he is the Farley and somehow is a great kind of name for him. That's a great one. Yeah. It's kind of lovable. Yeah. But kind of crazy sounding. Yeah. You're right. And Chris Rock suits. It's such a great. Rock and Rock. Show his name. He's out there.

Yeah. Like Belushi. Belushi was perfect for him. Belushi's a good one. And that's a perfect example. That's like a carby. I'd never heard that before. I never heard Belushi. Mm-hmm. Ackroyd is a good weird one that you don't hear a lot. Hey, I was going to ask you guys this, because in terms of SNL, did you guys have a thing where once high school...

I'm just going to do Seth Meyers, you know, like a month ago. And you know that 8-H hallway where it's chronological order, all those great cash shots where I started at the very beginning, you know, 75, which I wouldn't have seen as a kid. But then when I started watching, you know, kind of late 70s with my dad and brothers. But then did you guys have a thing together?

Right around maybe ninth or 10th grade, wherever, when you started doing something on Saturday night, when you could stay out to like midnight where I missed, I feel like I missed quite a few years. And of course at what you couldn't see things viral. Um, but yeah, I feel like I missed a few years.

you know, seasons just when, cause it's when I'd started kind of, you know, hanging around with friends on Saturday night. Yeah. And even, even in seventh and eighth, you know, grade you're at home, you know, you're not going out. You can't go out to like, that's the pocket of when you like a cast. Exactly. That's what I mean. Where you really, what was your cast? I mean, that would have been the Eddie Murphy. Like, you know, that would have been like kind of, you know, 12, 10, 11, 12, 13, but,

You're 68, so that would be... I don't know how old you are. No, Luke, you're not. You're young. Dana, did you watch those first, like the 75ers and the 76ers? Yeah, I mean, two things to unpack here. One is I never learned... I love that phrase. I never learned how to program a VCR or record, so I had to watch it live. I don't know when the VCR came in, but...

But I was in college during those years and I would I definitely copied Dan Aykroyd's Jimmy Carter and stuff like that. So I was aware of all that and having that dream. But I would miss shows because I was doing toward that later part of the 70s. I was working clubs and the second show and I'd be on stage. Yeah. And then the 90s when I got off SNL.

I was working a lot, had a family, and I never learned how to program a VCR. So I did miss a lot of shows. Yeah. That's it. Now everything's... I know. You have to catch the rerun.

Now, yeah, of course now tape it, watch them all or see it live. Twitter, YouTube. You guys, if you don't know about this Peacock, I'll do at eight 30 Pacific time. You get to watch the show live. I think even on, I think even on satellite, you know, dish TV, it comes on early, which is always nice.

Yeah. Yeah. So you don't really earn it though. You used to have to stay up. Yeah. 1130 was tough. Yeah. As a kid. And 30 in Dallas, it came along. Yeah. My dad would yell at me. No, he wouldn't. He left. He left early. He left when I was four. You guys just wrap it up with that. You guys missed.

The fun part was going to a drive-in movie, me and two of my brothers. I had three older brothers. All night, creature features. All night, Vincent Price, strangling, murder, mayhem. Who took you there? Brad. Oh, damn it, Dana. Brad. Was he your dad? No, Brad, the guy who played Garth. Oh, he took you to the... And you guys just fucking crashed there? Yeah, we're just little brothers. He could stay up all night. I would not make it all the way to dawn. You were the youngest of four, Dana? Yeah.

I had a younger sister. Okay. But I was the youngest brother. They wanted a girl. I was the fourth one. So can we at least give them a girl's name? So that's how they got that. Better than Susan. Good night. So you're three boys. Mine was three boys. Four boys. And Luke, what were you? Three boys. And where were you in the birth order, Dave?

I'm last. I was the youngest. Really? Interesting. I guess the youngest isn't really used with me a lot anymore, but I was the youngest and I was really super adorable. And these are other people's words. I know. Yeah. I saw you on that. My dad said we were a hassle. I swear later, I go, I love that you wanted to have kids and you split. And he goes, you're a fucking hassle, man. I go,

That's the, that's what we're going with. That's your company line. We, and no one's told you that's not what you should say to your kids. He's like, Hey, you're a fucking pain in the ass. I remember my dad one time losing his temper with us saying, when you all three get together, you're your own lowest common denominator. I was so bad at math, but I just knew that. I don't even, that sounds, sounds bad. Yeah.

We would have fought you. If the Carvey brothers, different era, if we were up with you Wilson guys, there would have been fist fights for sure. Why? Because my dad had a boxing ring and we had boxing gloves and we'd have boxing matches. We beat the shit out of each other.

I mean, isn't it amazing about the teasing that goes on in families? I feel like, you know, just like with the Holins, you know, two little boys, they're, you know, they're 10 and 13, but they're really nice to each other. I mean, there's like a little teasing going on, but I mean, when we were growing up, it was brutal. My brother wanted to kill me. My brother wanted me out.

Yeah. I remember I got some, I was really excited. I got these white suede dock siders that I'd saved up money to get. I mean, boy, talk about regretting a purchase once my brothers and my dad started making fun of me about these babies. Oh,

Oh, my dad, my dad, my dad called him the dusties. He's like, yeah, why don't you tell the dad, put the dusties on. Let's go get some breakfast. What does that mean? What did they look like? I'm sorry. You know, you know, dock siders, right? I,

I only know desert boots. Top siders? Yeah. Like the shoes with the like, like strings through them almost? Exactly. Leather. Okay. You know, there were... Because you were near the water? No, we weren't, but there were, you know, there were probably...

I had them when I was in Arizona. Oh, those kind of boat shoes. Yeah, that would be humiliating. And guys warm around, you know, in the late 70s, early 80s. But somehow, I got a pair of white suede ones I discovered. Goddamn. Yeah. I would have teased you. I would have teased you. I would have gone to town on that, man. You set up everybody in that family. It's either like...

You know, when you're in that position of wearing the dusties, you either, you know, get your feelings hurt and be like, hey, you start laughing about it yourself. It's hard to have pride when everyone hates them. As a Ford owner, there are lots of choices of where you get your vehicle serviced. You can choose to go to their place, the local dealership, your place, home, apartment, condo, your workplace, even your happy place, like your cottage on the lake.

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At Robert Half, we know talent. Visit roberthalf.com today. Before we go, I want to give Luke a specific compliment because I noticed it and mentioned it to my wife because she saw the movie with me. So we're watching Horizon and we're loving it because I just love Westerns.

And the scene, you're kind of the head guy of this wagon train. Yeah. And so these two creepy guys kind of are looking at a woman cleaning herself and stuff. So you're just trying to make the thing go fine, get everything in control. But the way you went up and approached these guys,

These guys who clearly didn't give a fuck about you. They were ready to kill you, but you were really talking to them. And then the guy stood up. He's like, and then your reaction of where you decide and you're OK, I'm not going to fight over this right now was really, really compelling. I don't know. I just really remember because I put myself in your shoes. You know, you got it. You've got to go talk to these guys.

and tell him to stop doing this and it's like so awkward but i thought the scene was great oh thanks that's that's funny you say that that's where i mean kevin costner he's really he's really good and sensitive as a director like because he'll go through it all and he'll start kind of

Acting it out physically. Thinking it out. You don't want to go up in these fucking guys. You don't want to go back to your family. It's late. You've been on the trail all day. You've been out here three months. You don't want to go talk to these guys, but they've been helping you.

But you got to go up there. They can't do what they've been doing. I love it. I love it. I love Costner. And then it's just one of those things where I'll think like, okay, if I could just kind of do it just like Kevin was doing it when he was showing it to me, that would be good. But thank you for saying that. And thank you for watching it with Mrs. Carvey.

And, you know, we'll get Dave to watch it all. Yeah, I'm waiting for part two. I'm going to do a whole thing at once. Yeah. I like it. A little Horizon Marathon. What's the new one with the... We got to mention that. Were you in Arlington right by your house or something? Oh, yeah. I was at the All-Star game where...

where I'd taken out the game ball for the All-Star game.

And I took a couple of friends with me that I'd grown up with were there, you know, they were kind of making fun of me and the fact that it wasn't televised. And they, they kept saying that I was the guy that gave the ball to the guy that gave the ball to the guy that gave the ball that put it on the mound. Um, just that it wasn't. That's an important job. Right. But yeah, but that's, I have this little league movie coming out called you got to believe in, um, late August that me and Greg Kinnear did. Um,

So that should be. Yeah. I saw it. Did you, did you shoot it in Arlington by the way? Uh, we unfortunately shot it or not, unfortunately, but it was set in Fort Worth, but you know, it's just one of those settings where in order to get more bang for your buck. Oh, cause I thought you shot it in Fort Worth. No, we went to Canada. I wish we had shot. Oh really? Cause it looked, they did a good job. Yeah. I'm sure they got some exterior Fort Worth shots, but, um,

Yeah, it's a good little story and it's funny. I mean, I know you guys have worked with kids before, but it's one of those things where it's kind of funny just being around these kids all day and then their parents where, yeah, Kinnear and I had fun working with them. I had to kind of yell at them a couple of times. You guys need to focus. Yeah, for sure. But this is a new wave of kids too. It's like,

Yeah, like kids, when we were kids, and you're like, this isn't anything like probably the kids we used to hang out with at Little League. Oh, gosh, no. It was kind of like Bad News Bears meets the Warriors when we were growing up.

The Warriors. Oh, I love both those movies. My God. But it's based on a true story. It's the longest little league world series in history and stuff happens. And yeah, it's just, it's this team that kind of came this rag tag team came out of nowhere from Fort Worth and just kind of kept winning and got all the way to the little league world series and had these two coaches and

One of whom, the guy I play that was kind of got ill and wasn't able to coach the team. So then Kinnear's character kind of takes the team over. But yeah, it's really, it's a really good. Reluctantly takes it over. Yeah. And Kinnear and I had a relationship.

fun working together because we're, we're friends and, uh, play a lot of golf together. And it's, yeah, it's not like you guys know, there's nothing more fun than making a movie with friends. And gosh, that's the thing that like, um,

so great about what Sandler does is, you know, putting those groups and you get to do that with them. Oh, you were in the ridiculous six. Yeah. I mean, that's where I got to see the whole, how the operation works. And it's just, I mean, it just seems like happened. Um, just getting to be around your friends, having a like manageable schedule and, you know, just, you know, Adam really sets the tone and those guys, I just saw Adam and those guys are getting ready to go do, uh, pathogenesis.

Happy Gilmore too. So just getting ready to go have some fun again. And then you get to make something that people will... Yeah, Happy Gilmore will be a good one. I mean, that's something looking forward to. I think that's a great idea. And Sandler does kind of...

he'll, he's the overriding force in the film, you know? And so what he says goes, he has all his pieces in place, works with a lot of the same people. So yeah, it's all about having fun and he knows what it's like. Oh yeah. Your take in front of the camera, you know, you just got to go in there. You do it. I'm sorry, David, give me a Sandler. You got to go in there. Oh, just so,

I remember from The Ridiculous Six where it was a comedic Western, but Frank Caracci, Sandler's friend, was directing it. And Sandler would always imitate Frank. And Frank was great with comedy and really good.

fun to work with. But at one point he was saying, so then you guys come out of the salon and then you go over to the cart and you jump in the cart. And Adam was like, it's a wagon. It's a fucking wagon. Laughter

But just being out in the middle of nowhere in the desert of New Mexico and having these two guys like Adam from New Hampshire. I'm not sure where Frank's from. Yeah. Yeah. My stuff was with Blake Shelton and Vanilla. Right. Because I remember that house you guys filmed that. Yeah. Yeah. We shot in a house. We did like a

card game we know this game when there's six people around it takes a full day to shoot or two days to shoot one scene and yeah what it was blast were you mark twain i don't think so i was colonel no vanilla ice was marked okay yeah of course i'm sure he's played mark twain in many vanilla ice was really good in that scene i mean he was no we had a blast robin

Uh, all right. Oh yeah. Um, Luke, we'll have to play golf again one day because, uh, we played one time and I kind of was a puss Dana. It was super hot. Like it was yesterday. And then you just go nine.

luke took me nine i was my buddy jody and then i said i told him i got a bad neck i could do nine yeah yeah yeah we get to nine he goes you're not fucking going anywhere and so he drove through that little tunnel you didn't let me get out and then here we are playing 18 sweating uh sickeningly but i am i think i'm better i think about a half a percent better than i was i'm like i'm

It's gotten worse and worse as I'm getting older, but it is nice to get out there and be outside. It's definitely fun. I want to look like you when I get outside. The only way to enjoy it is just assume you're terrible. Yeah. And don't, then you don't take it seriously. And usually if on, you get one good shot,

per hole that's decent. Either your chip or putt or something. I yell pro shot. Keeps you coming back. But I look at people taking it. My brother would throw tantrums. I mean, he did a Tommy Hawk with his putter on the green. Like, what the fuck? And I go, Scott, you're terrible.

And so am I. I mean, we're all awful. It's hard not to get mad. It is. I remember a story Pete Sampras told me about seeing Jack Nicholson at the golf course and said, Hey, Jack, how you doing? And Jack was like,

Good, good. I came close today to giving up the game. And Nicholson said, yeah, I told myself if I ever broke 70, that if I ever broke 70, that's it. And I was right there. I was going to shoot a 69. I three putted. So I get to keep playing. And Pete was like, you shot a 70, Jack? That's great. Yeah, I shot a 70.

On a par nine? No. No one plays nine but me, Dana. It's 18. My older brother tried with a nine, tried to get over a little pond. We've all hit it. Tin cup. And he's got a nine iron.

He 13 times. He would, he would do, if you stood behind him, sometimes he'd hit the edge of the ball and he will whiff over your head. He was literally a danger to other players. He didn't, he tried 13 times and didn't get it over. And he never golfed again. That was a walk. It wasn't even mad. Just like, that's it. Then he would just caddy. He would just caddy for us. I'm done.

Thank you, Luke. Hey guys. Thanks a ton. So nice to talk to you. The show is so funny and interesting. So really, really, thank you. Really enjoy listening to it. Listen, listen to them all the time. So thank you. Keep, keep knocking them out for us.

I appreciate it, buddy. Let's all go to that restaurant that Nealon, Owen, you and I will bring Spade to. Yeah, I would love to get dinner with you, Dana. Yeah. Especially if there's beginnings of a pandemic, then we'll go there. Yeah. Just to repeat the whole. That's the only reason we're going to go. Well, because then everything shuts down. Let's hope we don't shut the world down again. Yeah. Somehow that trio.

Shut down civilization. It's in Fauci's book. All right. Okay, fellas. Thanks very much. Thanks, Luke. Thanks, buddy. You too. This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, leave a like, a review, all this stuff, smash that button, whatever it is, wherever you get your podcasts.

Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.