Garrett Morris
01:03:36 Share

Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's- Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there, I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. Hey, Garrett Morris.

Garrett Morris. It's really fun to talk to an OG gangster from the beginning of SNL. I mean, that's really where it all started. That's what we're all trying to copy. From our point of view, as soon as he popped up,

He came to play. He had great, fun energy from the first second. Yeah. Something about him. He was into it. It's like bottled up like he hasn't talked. I mean, he probably hasn't done an interview for a while. And also two guys that are super interested in it and we have common ground. So yeah.

He was a chatterbox. He really was there and knows all about those first five years, which are seminal in SNL, of course. And he gets into grievances and people he maybe didn't like and drug use and anger and all. So it's very, very interesting. I love it when people don't really hold back like that. He doesn't give a shit. No, then he fires up a joint halfway through. Well, I'm not sure if it's halfway through, but make sure you're listening when it happens. You're going to love this one. You'll hear this.

That's trying to get it going. So, yeah, a lot of fun, a lot of old stories, the stuff you would expect. And it's just great to hear from him. Yeah. Because you don't hear from him a lot. He's just funny. Grew up watching him. Yeah, I enjoyed this one. Funny. I enjoy all of them. Garrett Morris. Garrett Morris.

My name is Garrett Morris. Hello. Garrett, my last name is Spade. You've already screwed it up by having an ex-convict on your show, okay? Whoa, let's get down to it. Did you serve time? That's my only question. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I actually spent a year and a half

What is known as the great Meadows correctional facilities. I was a teacher. Oh, I was at the Tim Meadows correctional facility. Uh, no Garrett, you were a teacher in there. You too. Uh, go ahead. Go ahead. Garrett. Let's hear about that.

Anyway, in like 1968, 69, I was a schoolteacher. I taught at PS 71 over on the east side. And I also taught, they had a program for teaching convicts. And I was a part of it. They gave us a Volkswagen, right? You guys say it's really Volkswagen. Yeah. Everyone's saying it wrong. Yeah.

Anyway, and I didn't know I was driving along the drug thing. And I used to get called all the time by the cops. Okay. Wait, you were running drugs in the Volkswagen and then you got pulled over? And you were also teaching kids and running drugs? I don't get it. I was teaching those murderers drama.

Okay. Yes. You have quite a resume. I looked it up. Oh, my God. It's vast. You know, Garrett, I have to tell Garrett something just so we have some common ground here. Garrett, I was in Arizona, you know, running the harsh streets of Scottsdale. And when I was about, you know, 18, 19, I was trying to flirt with this girl leaving a SAE party at Arizona State.

And I got pulled over immediately and they cuffed me and said, you have to go to jail. I don't think Dana, I didn't tell you this. So I go, I go to jail and I say, Hey, any reason for the jail? You know, I didn't even ask. Cause I just felt I'm pretty guilty about a lot of things. And they said, yeah, you've gotten too many tickets, speeding tickets, and we have a warrant for your arrest.

And I realized they didn't. So a couple hours in, I go, can I see those? And they showed me copies and it was my brother's signature saying he was me because he got pulled over so much. He would have had to go into jail. So he goes, no, no, I don't have my license. I'm David. And so then he signed them all and then he still didn't pay him. And then I spent the night in the clink and I had to have another comedian come bail me out. Oh, wow. Chevy Chase bailed you out. Yeah.

I still speak with my brother, unfortunately, but he know I'm such a pussy. I would never really give him any trouble about it. And I didn't. Is he out of jail? No, I was the one out. He never went. I had to do the time for him.

I had three older brothers that would stuff stolen items down my pants because I was nine and they were 11, 12, 13, and they were all juvenile delinquents. We fought, we smoked, we stole, but they would stuff them down my pants because I looked so little and so innocent and I'd walk out. But yeah, I stole a lot of stuff when I was nine. I'm just...

putting it out there right now. I would, I stole 10 yo-yos in one day. I had three weekends in the tank myself. Okay. See, we're all not soft. We're all from the fucking streets. Let's get that out of the way. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. I,

I'm not innocent at all. But one time it was because a traffic cop broke the law and used a Slim Jim right to go into my car and look under the mat in the front seat and found a bag of marijuana, which is illegal cop, okay? Anyway, I go to the impound to get in my car and I see about four or five cops standing around my car. I'm not stupid.

So I wait, right? And they wait. And about 30 minutes, I said, okay, let's go get my car. So I go to the car and I don't go in and they come and they say, open this back door. I say, no, I'm not opening it. Oh my God.

They open it, right? And then I was doing my karate thing, so I had a gi in the back. And they said, open that bag. I said, no, sir. They opened it, and they had put the grass in the bag. Oh, my God. The old frame. Yeah, they handcuffed me. But anyway, I go downtown, and I'm being booked. And sure enough, there was a cop there who was him. He says to me, see?

see John Iannuzzi. Now way back there, John Iannuzzi was a very progressive Italian lawyer who was hooked up, right? He would help you out. Sure enough, I went over there, John Iannuzzi figured out what it was about. He said, "This see me Monday." I come in Monday, John whispers something in the judge's ear, and the judge says, "Garrett Morris." I raised my hand, he said, "Get out of here. I don't want to see you in here again." - All right.

He whispered you were framed, right? That's crazy. Well, the lawyer probably told him how the cop got the grave. Yeah. No body cams back then. How you been doing, man? How you been doing? Me and Dana have been having fun. Look at my hair looks good today. You know what? I filmed something this week. Are you and Dana an item? Oh, an item? An item?

I just like the expression. Are you breaking a story? Listen, Garrett, what happens on Fly on the Wall stays on Fly on the Wall. Am I canceled now? I can't do that anymore. I'm leading the cancel. Yeah, Dana and I are old buddies, and we sort of emerged in the same person over time. I must say, you do look like you're from the same mom. You do. Same tribe. Irish, Scottish, Norwegian. What's your tribe? German? Really?

I'm Irish, Scottish, Norwegian. Yeah. Well, I'm Cambodian, Nigerian, West Africa. And by the way, Ancestry.com said I have a little bit of Finnish in me. Can you believe that? That's interesting. It's down deep. I can't see. My skin cries when it's sunny. By the way, tomorrow's my birthday. Tomorrow's your birthday. I read that your birthday's coming up. Is it the first? Is that what it is? Tomorrow's the very first, yes.

Okay, we'll delete this because this is going to be airing in 2027. No, we don't know when. All right, what's your secret? I have to ask. What are you drinking? This here is green tea, okay? That's it. That's the...

Acid glucose to you. Helps to reduce your glucose count. Blood sugar stuff? Yeah. I have type 2 diabetes. Your energy doesn't match your birth certificate. It's huge. I mean, you're just like on fire. You're just energetic. I can't tell you on here, man. This is recorded by cops. Okay? Yeah. Yeah, they're always monitoring this. Okay.

I will say, Garrett, you have sort of a very bright light and energy about you and a fun thing about you. And I see why in comedy you do well because you always bring it. You're very vocal. You got a strong voice.

You just have a fun vibe and I think that's- - And you're positive. - Yeah, positive. - People wanna work with you. - So when it comes to comedy, this is what I say. I am an actor who was in a comedy show many, many years ago and I have been suffering ever since. - Now why have you been suffering? - So are we. - Because everywhere I go, people want me to be funny. And as my ex-wife would tell you, well, she used to tell me all the time, N-word, you ain't funny.

Yeah. Fill in the blanks. I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think you're funny. And, you know, a lot of people have a funny vibe about them. Like people say when I date girls, I go, what do you look for? And I go, I like a girl that's funny, but I don't mean she needs to be Robin Williams. Some girls just have like a charm and fun thing about them. And that's funny to me. And it's a lightness and fun. They don't have to be like,

you know, Henny Youngman, yada, dah. So I like that. I go, I'll take care of that part. Take my life. Exactly. Yes.

But by the way, Dana, Garrett has worked with Pryor and all these huge, huge stars, which I look over and I can't believe how cool it is. I got to work with Richard Pryor, but I want to hear your story first. Don't one up him yet. I have a nice Richard story. I have a great Richard Pryor story, OK? I want to hear yours. It's got to be better. When Richard and I were cult fiends.

That's the title of the podcast. I bet Dana's story doesn't start like that. Go ahead. But Richard brought his own route because he had heard that I was known... Nobody had heard about me except people on the East Coast. So Richard brought his own riders. Nobody knew. I got this job with just 15 and 75 with a pretty good job for a black guy to get. They're thinking I'm long...

Help me. Lor Michaels. Lor Michaels. Lor Michaels N-word. Can I say it? Like you were his main man. You can say anything you want as far as I'm concerned. I basically thought that was going on, that Richard had gotten, that Lor had gotten some guys from New York. Well, at the time I got to Saturday Night Live, I'd already been in New York for like 17 years. I had written two plays.

Two plays. Yeah, I read that. I did at least 15 off-Broadway and Broadway shows. And so I paid my dues, right? And they didn't know that. So when Richard came, he brought his own group.

And he didn't use me. And I was really hurt by that because until this day, Richard is my favorite monologuist of all time. Right. Yeah. And at that time, I was really very hurt because I wanted to work with him. So he did the show, didn't use me. But later on, when I went to California, he was doing a movie called Critical Condition. And I got a call from my agent saying, Richard Pryor wants you to be in the show.

be in the movie. And he said anything. I assume that was his way of saying, hey, you know,

I'm sorry. Something like that was very sweet. Well, you know, a lot of hosts do that. I mean, a lot of hosts still bring in writers just because they get scared. Like maybe Paul Mooney was with Richard. I don't know who he was with. He was a force of nature. Paul Mooney. I used to do stand up with him in the late 70s. And I would go, why is this guy in this little club? I mean, he was so charismatic and so good looking and so funny. It was like just everything.

I love Paul Mooney. I'm sure he was behind Richard doing what he did because he was Richard's writer. But to this day, I see because much of what Richard did was Paul Mooney.

Right. Okay. What do you think, you know, when you, the idea of a monologist, you know, I think of that more voice orientated, but I think that with Richard from what, when I first saw him on the Ed Sullivan show, he mimed for two minutes, a guy reaching under his,

to see if he had B.O. And it was like just a silent movie. So Richard had that capacity to paint a picture instantly, and he could do just a straight monologue. So I don't know. He could tell stories. Yeah, and play all the characters. Yeah, when you're talking about Mudbone, you wouldn't be laughing for like...

two or three minutes until he got to the punchline. Yeah. But you were so engaged in Mudbone until this day again. How did you say the word? I said monologues. You say it again. Monologist. Monologist.

Anyway, sometimes I have trouble with English. I knew what you meant. I want to tell my Richard Pryor little story here. Go ahead. Tell me. So I'm working at the Holiday Inn as a waiter. Yeah. And it was near the Circle Star Theater up near San Francisco. Richard's headlining there. So Richard's in the restaurant. So I got to go serve Richard. And I was really nervous. So I brought him a Denver omelet. Okay. And then later on, I came back and I...

I took the plate and he looked up at me and said, quote, whoever made that omelet can suck my dick. And I never knew if it was a positive or negative review. Twelve years later, I'm in a movie with Richard Pryor, which I'll tell you about. We're at lunch.

And I just wanted to know what he meant that day, but I didn't want to bring it up. He probably wouldn't remember. So I look at him, I take a bite of my cheeseburger and I said, this cheese, uh, this, uh,

This cheeseburger is really, really, really good. And he goes, wow, you must want to suck somebody's dick. No, I can't. I got the headline. He got it wrong. He used that suck dick metaphor a lot. Okay, so it wasn't just me. One of the funniest jokes I ever heard was when he said, this bitch was so fine, I want to suck her daddy's dick. I like that one, yeah.

I'm a nibbler, Dana, and I think you are too, but you always know me that I just have to keep the energy going. And I think because I learned from my dad, pistachios are a good source of just, you know, nibble, wake you up. They're always delicious. I actually named a character in a movie I did called Master of Disguise. The lead character's name is pistachio. That's how much I love pistachios. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, wonderful pistachios have literally come out of their shells. It's the same taste. It's delicious, but it's a lot less work. As you know, cracking them open can be a little bit of a job. Less cracking, more snacking is what I say. That's what I say. That's what you say, and I'm going to use that.

When my wife goes to the store. Wonderful pistachios, no shells flavors come in a variety of award-winning flavors, including chili roasted. Honey roasted.

Sea salt and vinegar, smoky barbecue. Sea salt and pepper is one I like the most. And I'm going to try this jalapeno lime. They don't have a red, red necky flavor just yet. Yeah, look at him there. Red, red necky loves pistachios. I like to crack things open and put them in my mouth.

Come and eat some. Come and eat some. You could do that. Spice lovers go nuts. It's time to get spicy with Wonderful Pistachios' newest no-shills flavor, jalapeno lime. With a wide range of flavors, there's a Wonderful Pistachios product for every taste bud and occasion. From enjoying with family and friends to taking them with you on the go, which is what I do. I always have them in the car. Savory, salty, smoky, spicy, or sweet Wonderful Pistachios.

No shells. Flavors are delicious. Snacks that consumers can feel good about. Yeah, next time you're shopping for snacks, you're craving something crunchy, something satisfying, ditch the bag of chips and grab Wonderful Pistachios. No shells. Your body and taste buds will thank us because we told you about them. Visit WonderfulPistachios.com to learn more.

I just want to say I just had a root canal and a crown put in, and I'm kind of spaced out. So the end of the joke went like this, you know. Okay, do it again. He goes, wait a minute. I'm so stoned from the dentist. The punchline. The punchline. You do it again. Oh, I said.

No, I can't. I really can't remember. I think you said this cheeseburger can suck my dick. No, it was. Yeah, it was a reverse that I got the the information by setting a trap, you know. Oh, and I will get to it before this podcast over. But I am so high right now. I mean, I'm just like, well, I'm very crazy. What kind of what kind of marijuana?

Marijuana? No, it was dental stuff. Oh, okay. But if I do smoke marijuana, my brand is Sledgehammer. That's my brand of cannabis. Oh, good God. Your brand of cannabis is what? Sledgehammer. Sledgehammer. From the Peter Gabriel collection? I made it up. Yeah, I like that name. It sounds cool. Shovel to the face. I will be smoking a jug, okay? Okay.

Hey, Garrett, I have a question for you. You can smoke a joint right now while I ask you if you want. Now, Garrett, when you bring me a joint. Oh, boy. So when you come on SNL, it must be like the dirty dozen. So you guys all get together. You know, you probably don't know each other. Right. And then you are thrown together and you're sort of like, OK, let's see what works, what doesn't work. And you are a writer. You're a writer at the beginning, right?

Yes, I was. Yes. Okay. So you were not, I don't think you're on camera till later. I think that was a decision that was made later. Correct? I actually was on camera the first show. Oh shit. Let me tell you, can I? Yeah. You're in the middle of a story. I don't want to cut you off. No way. It's about you. I was a playwright, right? So I brought on my play.

He read it and liked it because there's a couple of funny things in it. He hired me. I didn't know that just because you write a play that's about two hours doesn't mean you can write

30 minutes, 30 seconds. Yeah, a little tiny sketch. Yeah, for sure. It took me about four or five months to realize I couldn't do it. And I was feeling really pissed off myself. Then finally, I realized I had an idea. Because in my play, the Black Panther group that I have is called the Young Lions makes a joke about

about how when they're collecting money at fundraising, they want to raise a lot of money when they have white, milky white liberals in the audience. I love them. Right. So I have to tell that idea. I'm going to call his name to Schiller. Oh, Tom Schiller. Oh, Tommy Schiller. Yeah. Right. Schiller goes over to the studio and tells it to another guy whose name I will not call.

That guy then writes it down as his idea. Whoa, wait a minute. Right, when I come over, it's written down, and he's not even giving me credit for even contributing, right? So anyway, what happened? I'll tell you how it started. Yeah, keep going. Yeah, anyway, what happened was it became a thing called the White Guilt Relief Fund.

Yes, I remember the sketch. Right. Yeah. And I don't know when I started off to help me because I'm 85. I may be all set. No, I'm tracking the story. You would ask white people for donations out of guilt and make them an honorary Negro. You'd send them a plaque. Right. Right. Exactly.

Anyway, that was the only thing that I did that I thought was worthwhile. And this guy who at that time was a second in command to Ann Beetz, right? Now, here's what happened was, I was so mad. I was so angry about that. Took me a couple of weeks to stew over that. And I was going to make a serious mistake. I was going to come in this particular day.

and let him know what's for. And even if it meant physically confronting him, I was going to do that. Although I knew he was a wrestling champ. Now you know, I think I know who it is. Wrestling champ from Harvard. I think I know who it is. I didn't care. I said, if I get a couple of licks in. Yeah. After he whips my ass, he's still going to remember me. Right. Yeah. I get off to the elevator and somebody there says, Garrett,

"Lauren wants to see you in the green room." I go to the green room and sure enough, John and Gilda and Jane had told Lauren Michaels, "Look, you've got a guy bringing in black actors. He's one himself and here's a movie he's done." They were looking at "Cooley High." - Oh, "Cooley High." - Right. So Lauren looked at "Cooley High." She auditioned me with Gilda and I was totally counter-punched because Gilda is like,

to this day. - Unreal. - How she improvised, you didn't even know she was doing it. - Yeah, brilliant. - And I kind of punched throughout that. I was a taxi driver driving from JFK with her as my passenger and I was cheating the hell out of her all the way, right? And so anyway, that's how I became a member of the group. So I was there the first four years

The first time we did it from the beginning, but I didn't start off that way. No. Wow. But how about you turn your anger and you had to switch gears and. I look, I, I look, I'm a Buddhist.

So I don't believe in necessarily in a personal guard, but somebody really was in the works who stopped that because I was gonna make a serious, serious mistake. - Listen, Franken's got some ground game too. - Did you have go-to moves, Garrett? I mean, as a fighter, would you do the kind of, "Hey, let's be friends," and then headbutt? Or would you work the body?

Or what would be your kind of go-to moves? I would have gone to the soil effectors first because that would have brought him down. Then I would have kicked him in the chin. He's going to get up mad as hell and do some kind of a hold and break my neck, okay? But look, if you're short like I am and don't weigh much, you've got to go for what you need. Yeah, you've got to get away. You hit fast and then you move but be scrappy.

That was no way I could have won that fight. I know the dude and he's very tough when he gets in the ground game. Listen, I got mad at him too, but I didn't think of fighting him. You made a smart decision. Hey, before we go on, can I just do the Richard Pryor joke? We can cut it out, but it really bugged me. All right. I'm so sorry about the dentist, but here it is. I'll set it up real fast. Gabe Richard Pryor at Denver Obamacare is the Holiday Inn. I got the

the plate up and he said, whoever made that omelet can suck my dick. 12 years later, true story, in a movie, wanted to know what he meant by suck my dick. Was it positive or negative? I'm having lunch with him. I take a bite of the cheeseburger. I look at Richard and I say, well, whoever made this cheeseburger can suck my dick. And Richard said, you must love that cheeseburger. Ah!

That's how you do it. Boom. Dana. I'm making Garrett happy. That's what I love. I never knew I would say suck my dick on this podcast. Now I've said it seven times. That's a mic drop. Which reminds me, ladies and gentlemen, what do you have if you have a patina with a penis? Excuse me? A patina. Yeah. Yeah.

You have a dictator, stupid. Why do you have to add the stupid part? Yeah, stupid. It's a pretty good joke. No, because you didn't know what it was, stupid.

Stupid. I like the stupid at the end. It was hilarious. That could have been a guy character. So you were part of that original lexicon. I mean, who was your hangout friend of the cast? These are just basic SNL questions. Who did you gravitate to? Was it Gilda or just everybody? Or did you have people? Gilda, Jane and Chevy. But I didn't do what I should have done because I should have also after the show done.

- After the show, the first couple of years, you go downtown to this bar, I think Willie. - Oh yeah, you have the party. - Yeah. That's equal to that golf game that people talk about where you form alliances, right? So I didn't do that. So I really had a lot of people not liking me, thinking I was stuck up and all that. - Well, yeah, why didn't you go? Now I wanna know. - Because I, even to this day,

I'm an introvert working against that. All right. I've really gotten over it to a lot, a large extent. But also I had at that time, okay, do you want to really know the real truth? I had probably a couple of girls at home waiting for some cocaine to do what we're going to do. So it was either the girls and the cocaine or having Lauren tell his story about how we met. I think it may have.

Well, listen, that's a tough one, Dana, because his story sounds great, like all that fun stuff. But then you look back and you realize you've got such huge, talented, cool people that you get to. Because I was going to say, Garrett, did you have an official after party? It sounds like you didn't. But we had Dana was on and then I was on with him for a while. And we had they would walk around with a ticket, a secret, you know, during the show. Remember this, Dana? That was a big.

And they'd hand you and you put it in your wardrobe or something and you go, here's where the party is. Don't tell anyone. And it was during the live show. So you go, okay. And then after the show, you'd go straight there, but they wouldn't want to find out about it. And so we'd have a designated spot every Saturday and we'd go there. Sort of the same thing. You just go there and get all fucked up with everybody. But you see, I'm sure that the reason why that didn't happen to me is because at first,

I set up not going in the first place. Right. So when that started happening, people probably said, well, you know, fuck him. You know, he doesn't. Well, you had some responsibilities to get back to. But I remember when I first got an SNL, Lorne was telling me about, you know, Chevy and Danny and everybody and Garrett. He said, Garrett,

Wait a minute, do that again. Chevy and Danny and Eddie and all the people and Paul. You could never get Garrett to the party unless you brought some cocaine and some hookers. I go, really? Right. I'm sure they would have said that and they would have been correct. It's good bait.

Well, the thing about it was coming in 86, you guys were bad asses. Like to me, that original cast, you guys were, oh, it's a little, well, a little bit of a, okay, let's show a little power flower. Oh, you're going to blow your nose. Yeah. A little bit.

A gentleman joins us, been on "Shower Night Live" from the original cache, a young man named Garrett Morris. But we thought of you guys as badass pirates. You would fight, there were drugs, you know, Chevy and Bill Murray would fight and Belushi was like a badass. And then we got in and people were having like Amstel lights. We'd have a Bud Light at the party with me and Phil and just look around. - Yeah, we didn't party as hard. - We felt we didn't belong. - Well, can I say something about John? - Yeah.

John, when he and I were both into the cocaine thing, he never really talked to me unless he needed cocaine. And I get a knock on the door. Hey, buddy. Come in. And I put my tin straw down there. And you know what he would do?

Two, ten of them. By the time he got to, I had none left. So he would just go in, get a straw in his nose, go down on the desk. You were about to snort the coke and he would snort all of it? Oh, my God. He would leave a little bit at the end. A little bit at the end. God would. Oh, nice guy. A brilliantly talented man, but boy, boy. I had mineral water and Nora Dunn would come in and just chug it. Oh. I'm kidding. But...

What was it about like I tried cocaine? I've talked about it. I just like you're saying you're fighting being introverted. Like when I did cocaine within 30 seconds, I was very sad. I just really it made me very anxious and very paranoid. I only tried it twice. And I one time I did some cocaine, drove to the comedy club and I couldn't go in the club because I knew they all hated me in there.

And then I just drove back home. So how did it? But I knew people that cocaine spoke to them, that eventually they had it in a little thing and they just sniff it all day. Yeah. So what did it do to you? I mean, cocaine did the opposite to me.

It livened me up. Yeah. Oh, because you were an introvert. So it kind of opened you up. But then you need more cocaine, right? You're losing the high. You got to get more, right? That's the trouble. That's the trouble because the thing, that first high, you never get it again, David. You never get it again, David. Okay. After that, you're striving to get that first high. So even if you're on for like 35 years, which I was,

35 years? Yeah. You never get that again. Then you start smoking it.

Right? And you get that thing again. And then smoking it, you're coming down. So you keep coming down. You never get that first time again. Okay? So... Doesn't make you stop chasing it. I was there. I did it for a while. Well, Lynn Byers is one. Do you remember Lynn Byers? Oh, yeah. What a mess. Yeah. When that happened to him, I started thinking, yeah, you're way older than this guy. You're way older. And, you know, something's going, you know...

you're lucky that that didn't happen to you you know garrett i was i was in it during len bias len bias for the for the listeners is a basketball player that got recruited by the celtics i think yes and i think he died after draft night or something from doing too much cocaine something i think before he played and that was the first time i think i knew you could die from just doing straight cocaine like i hadn't heard that excuse me excuse me

Oh, he dropped his joint. His house is on fire. No, he's actually. Oh, is it OK to say that we think our friend Garrett Morris

is enjoying some fine cannabis. Sativa. Sativa. Oh, so that's like, what does that do? It evens your energy out or what? Sativa is a kind of marijuana that lets you stay awake. Oh, it's upper. Okay. It's an upper. If you get a hybrid, it's in between. If you get indica, you're going to go to sleep. So a lot of times when I'm working, I'll either do it without smoking or with this, you know.

Well, I worked with Scatman Carruthers once in Rockefeller Center. Yeah. I envy you. Okay. Oh, I got it. I'm Scatman. Angel from heaven. Oh, sweetest guy. Oh, wow. And always was, he'd go in the bathroom and you'd hear him and he'd be smoking weed, you know, and, uh,

So one night it was the one year anniversary of John Lennon's death. And my brother was visiting the show. It was a sitcom with Mickey Rooney, another crazy man. And Scatman gave us a joint. He rolled it in front of us and he had both ends were closed off. He did it without even looking, you know.

And so then we tried it and it was terrible. It was really weak. So the next break I brought back some Colombian pot from Santa Cruz. Purple hair. I did. And the next day in the elevator, now Scatman was from the 30s when it was illicit. In the elevator, people around, he says to me, quote, the music was good. Might I get a pound? Yeah.

- Of your weed? - So after the show was over, my brother and I got a huge bag of pot, grocery bag of pot, drove it down to Van Nuys where scat men live, brought him the pot, played banjo, kept in touch with him. No, his guitar, yeah, and ukulele. ♪ Stu going strong ♪ - Manny the Moocher. - We'd never met like a character like scat man, you know? You see that man there, he points to the janitor, he goes, "That man's an artist."

that man is an artist you know he was just taking us all these different places i like that what he did he was in blues brothers dana and that's the only reason i knew who he was because i was young and i saw i think he was in blues brothers he sang minnie the moocher is that what i'm thinking did you see blues was in it right yeah he was in this he was in the shining oh i don't oh yeah oh that was him jack nicholson you know what i've never seen that it's scary

I love my man, but I hate... Scary movies. Yeah, I hate scary movies. Yeah, so do I, dude. I'm with you. Well, you said that Jack brought in a suitcase of pot into London. By pot, you mean cocaine? No, this was cannabis. And he goes... And Jack goes, I'm not going to sell it. It's just for my personal use. And they let him through. Really? Yeah. Because he's a monster of...

Shoot, I have another thing. Did you have any favorite sketches back then, Garrett, when you were there that first year? The Colossal President.

What was that? Colossal president. Yeah, that was this thing at the 12 mile island or something like that where the nuclear thing. Oh, four mile. Three mile. Three mile. Three mile. I know. Five K. Yeah. Everybody's big. And I'm the wife of the president and he's big and I'm big, you know, another one that was my favorite, not for any other reason, but

But I really think about it as a win, which somebody didn't get the message. It was with O.J. Simpson. Oh, well, he was a mandingo who goes around raping all the black slaves, female slaves. And that's when I was supposed to kiss.

I don't want to kiss him. They did a sketch time is to kiss, you know, like this to kiss him and he backs away.

As if I really wanted to. Yeah, you were just acting, right? You had to do it. Oh, man. Another one is something that Aldous Whitebell did. The baseball... Very, very good to me. Chico, Chico, baseball have been very, very good for me. Actually, Chico Esquivel is really Brian Doe Murray's original...

concept which he and his brother came up with then uh alan enlarged on it right so we would do a piece like that all the time and also i can't uh throw out um something that uh chevy came up with for me which is uh hard to hear it yeah which became kind of a runner everyone knows that are you sure yeah and zybell's a big writer there yeah he was good right well i think he i love him i love zybell yeah yeah he's great

If you're driving right now, take a look around. See all those cars? You can find them on AutoTrader because they have the largest selection of new cars, used cars, electric cars, even flying cars.

Okay, no flying cars yet, but as soon as those get invented, they're going to be on AutoTrader. Not only can you find the car you just saw, you can find it at a price personalized to you with Kelly Blue Book, my wallet on AutoTrader. From credit scores to down payments to interest rates, we all know that car buying requires a lot of math.

Enter MyWallet on AutoTrader, a tool that shows you exactly how much you'll pay each month for your car based on your unique info. So you never have to do your car math again. So whether you're into timeless classics or the latest trends, did somebody say solar-powered, eco-friendly, self-driving car? Or whether you just want something practical with no surprise costs, if you see a car you like...

Find it on AutoTrader. See it. Find it. AutoTrader. Robert Half Research indicates 9 out of 10 hiring managers are having difficulty hiring. If you have open roles, chances are you're feeling this too. That's why you need Robert Half. Our specialized recruiting professionals engage their skills with our award-winning AI to connect businesses of all sizes with highly skilled talent in finance and accounting, technology, marketing and creative, legal and administrative and customer support.

At Robert Half, we know talent. Visit roberthalf.com today. But Garrett, now, when you did in the beginning, oh, first of all, now that one, I don't know when Pryor hosted or what year it was when they did that sketch with Chevy. I think it must have been the first year. Wasn't Chevy only one year? Yep. No, Chevy came in after a year and a half.

Oh, no, I thought there was a billy. I'm sorry. No, no, he was in after you. Right. He was like a year. Right. And then Bill Murray came in. Right. Right. And Chevy Chevy blew up. What was that like when one cast member was like, wasn't he on the cover of Time or something? I mean, it just went phew.

was here a couple of time i didn't know or newsweek i mean i know that chevy just got so much i said right on he did with flesh that was the name of the flesh yeah he did a lot of movies yeah i thought however he waited he should have waited a little longer of course i agree he wishes he'd never left he he wishes he'd stayed at least five years right just like the guy who's on that uh cop show

who later on did CSI. David Caruso? Yeah, he left too soon.

You know, that happens. And I get, I sort of get it, but Chevy was a tall, great looking guy. And he's a, and it was really good in comedy. And then he was a movie star. Like, I don't even know what that would be like, but to leave when you know, it's the best show. It's a coolest show. Like you guys, I know Chevy blew up, but all you guys were huge. The Beatles. I mean, everyone like a rebel. I mean, there's just was nothing like it. I mean, I was in college and when it, when it came on and I saw all you guys, it makes me feel old fellows. Okay.

And I feel old all the time. How old were you when this happened? I was being born in the hospital when it was on TV, and I was like, this looks pretty fun. Oh, my God. I was born in 1988. When I got into Saturday Night Live, I had been in New York about 17 years, right? And you were 38. When I was asked to join Saturday Night Live,

all those other, excuse me, motherfuckers had just got out of high school and college. I was about 10 years away from AARP. Okay. You didn't, you did not look older than anyone. You didn't stand out as like Phil Hartman. Well, I think was 38. I was 39 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now,

Now, Garrett, this, Dana, I just want to ask him that, which everyone might know this, but Chevy does, there's some sketches people remember, you know, and one of them is Chevy interviewing Richard Pryor when he was there for a job. And who wrote that? Huh? Who wrote that one? I think Chevy and Richard together. Oh, cool. Yeah, that. Yeah. That's like.

I mean, when you look back on what you guys did comedically... That's a classic. And then what you could... What we call it now, what we can get away with now. It's just very...

Different at the time, even at the time it was incendiary, but now it would be like go to a test pattern. Right. It would just get canceled. I mean, Lauren, he did at the right time because in about 10 years we got into what we're into now. Right. Which is where. Which is a softening. Yeah. I mean, with all due respect to the brilliant cast that Saturday Night Live has always had, you can't really write for them the way they wrote for us before.

And then, I mean, you know, and I hate that. I hate that. It changed. It's a Rubik's Cube. You got to really...

You really have to cleverly get clever stuff in because you can't, it's almost like you're pulling from the same eight jokes that everyone's allowed to use now. Right. And that won't make people mad. But you guys, I think the first five, I think you're on for five years that at least the standards and practices didn't even know what to say no to. They were like, this is so ridiculous. Like they had to learn and go, well, wait, we don't like that. We're getting a lot of complaints about that. We have to stop that. But it was like playing whack-a-mole because every week you think of a new way to offend people.

And that was the greatest part of it. Well, no, no one cared initially. And then the show became a smash. At what point? I mean, two years in, you guys just blew up. But initially, probably they didn't. No one's watching. We had a lot of people who were we thought were progressive. OK, look, in my opinion, the true progressive. Yeah. Without any sign of racism whatsoever.

But I. So he's like so he's like me. I thought, for instance, that Michael O'Donohue, because of his past, would be the same way. Michael O'Donohue, with all due respect, was an absolute racist motherfucker. You got to add motherfucker to that because it just completes the thought. The very first show, there was this kid that was going to have a black doctor, right? Have a doctor, not a black doctor.

And I wasn't in it at all. So I said, "Hey, Michael, why don't we have the doctor be back?" You know what he tells me? "Well, Garrett,

the audience might be thrown by a black doctor. Now this is 1975, right? Now I'm from New Orleans. Where from the time I was 12 years old, I was surrounded not only by hordes of black medical doctors, but black PhDs as well. And I'm wondering how a guy whose name is associated with National Lampoon doesn't fucking know this.

Did he not see Guess Who's Coming to Dinner with Cindy Poitier, which I saw in the theater at age eight.

And it infected me the rest of my life. And I got to do a lot of benefits of Sidney Poitier. He's another real gentleman. Sorry, I'm still a little high on slurring. Well, that's tough because, yeah, you're lighting the show. You say, hey, can I get thrown into a sketch? And he said, no, this one's not right for you. And it's like, oh, boy. You can't be a black doctor. What are you talking about? You know, we're talking about Sidney Poitier. I remember being almost high. You walk by a person, just walk by and you...

I'm on 72nd Street and he's coming towards me for like a half a block away. I said, that's where I'm going to take me for IPA. Right. Oh, yeah. It's passing like that to this day. I remember that day. Oh, yeah. He was so eloquent. I remember I did a bunch of benefits for Cedars-Sinai and he was always there. And then one time I got off stage and I was walking to the audience. He stopped me.

And I was able to do my, yeah. And he gave me some praise and I did my, I said, they call me Mr. Tibbs. And he laughed so hard. It was the Rod Steiger, I think, but,

Yeah, for me, there were so many brilliant movies in the 60s and 70s. And just a lot of my heroes were black. I mean, just Jimi Hendrix. My brother came in 1966. He came home. He was 13. He said, I just saw the best guitar player in the world. I said, what's his name? He goes, Jimi Hendrix. But we didn't we weren't we were kind of progressive in our own way back then because we just wanted to see Jim. We didn't think.

you know, and I went to the first integrated, very, very well integrated high school with busing in 1969. So. Oh, my Jimi Hendrix, you know what he did when he came back from England where he'd become famous? He got on the corner of 125th Street and 17th Avenue and played the guitar for like 18 hours or so just to introduce

People do that. He was really something else. He was. Like Neil Young has said about him, no one's ever played the guitar like Jimi Hendrix. Did Jimi Hendrix was never, did he die before SNL? He's somebody they would have on there. He was one of those caught up in, you know. Yeah, he died. He was like 27, right? 27. 27, yeah. 27 club. You know, Janis Joplin around the same age. Janis Joplin too. Oh, man.

I hate it when that happened to Janice. I loved her ass, man. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, again, you know, there's just certain talents, like Janice's singing and there's a word I use a lot, supernatural.

I mean, that screaming, the intensity of it was just crazy. With all due respect, I'm not a white woman, okay? Sure. Yeah, she has such a talent. And then it almost like...

they burn out quickly because it's so much talent and so that voice is so cool and everything and you hope it's around forever. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's also just the accidental playing with fire. You know, Jim Morrison, once you start playing with opioids and mixing that stuff in, you know, of course, you know, John Belushi, you know, it wasn't intentional, but you're playing with fire. It's just... Matter of fact, that's another thing that started me to straighten up.

Yeah, John's death. Was John during when you were on SNL? When was it? I can't remember. He was 33. Well, like 83, I think, right? It was after SNL when he died. Yeah, and the thing is, John and I didn't really hang. Only when he needed cocaine did he hang. Yeah, right. Yeah. Sure. So how did that affect you? Did that get you off cocaine or you just started to slow down or what happened? I started to slow down and by the time I came here, it's not something you could just stop.

By 2005, I went to AA, Alcoholics Anonymous. And they do something that exasperates you. They will call your ass, okay? And they will sponsor you over and over. And so through that, I really succeeded in getting rid of it, okay? Much less.

different with cigarettes, which I still am struggling with. But I'm glad that it's 2005. It's been nice that 2002, 22. Yeah, here we are. Since that's what, 17 years, 16? Yeah. Well, the body has a remarkable healing apparatus once you give it a break, you know, so you're did you have a lot of people lived a long time in your family tree? My grandfather lived in 92.

Okay. So you got some longevity. Yeah. My grandmother got, I'm sure, got cancer when she was in her 50s. My mother lived to 80, but she didn't take care of herself. Okay. So there's a couple, you know, either I'm going to

hook up my grandfather and stay for a minute. How do you deal with stress? Are you really Buddhist? Are you really Zen? Are you relaxed in your brain all the time? With all the respect, I know you guys hear Buddhism and you think Zen. Zen is not, it's only one part of Buddhism. There are over 300,000 Buddhists worldwide and people who kill them are like me. They chant, which is not the same thing as

The Zen Buddhists, okay? Right, so you chant. They meditate. Domne arigatou, domne arigatou, domne arigatou, domne arigatou. No, it's nam-myoho-renge-kyo. Arigatou. Oh, shit, I fucked it up. Let me hear it. Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, nam-myoho-renge-kyo, which means that you get it to the mystic law of cause and effect.

which means you don't believe in a personal God, but you do regard the law as being in the place that most other religions place God. It is the most sacred. Right. Well, I did transcendental meditation and my mantra is domino. I'm a TM practitioner too. Yeah. My mantra domino leak, which I found out later was Native American for your shorts. We don't have much time. Are you telling people your mantra? No.

No, I was kidding. I'm just joking. I would never tell you my mantra. Yeah, don't tell them. My mantra is Garrett.

Garrett, after SNL, first of all, there's too many cool people there. You had Danny Aykroyd, who I did two movies with. Three, actually. Great guy. Beautiful guy, yes. He was a beautiful dude. Did you hang with anyone after the following years of SNL? Did you stay in touch or did you see him when you see him kind of thing? I saw him when I saw him. When James was out here doing Two Rock, Reese's Dog on the phone. Oh.

Oh, that's right. Jane was on Second Rock from the Sun, Third Rock from the Sun, right? And now I have a big quality relationship with Lorraine. Yeah, Lorraine. And my daughter, Hannah, who is very, very talented. Did you see her in Hacks? Oh, Hacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She is a dynamite actor and also a very fine comedian. She did my show last year.

Garrett, who was your head writer when you started? Was it Ann Beetz? Ann Beetz was, yes. She was. See, they had a girl head writer back then, which is probably more rare than a black doctor. And that other guy we mentioned, that was the assistant head writer.

I know who you're talking about. And look, I was very sorry about what happened to him because I think that I'm not going to call their names. They backed him up when that thing happened. They should have backed him up and not let him go the way he did. Was there a lot of politics? I know what you're talking about. A lot of politics. What he did was not what he didn't have to leave because of that.

Yeah, I tend to agree. It was a purge that had to happen, but some people got swept up into it that maybe in a more reasonable time would have... Yeah, he's not been treated like that at all. Yeah, I agree. Geez, I wonder if I'm canceled right now. Do you think we could be canceled from this podcast? You're canceled because you agreed. We said, suck my dick. I said, Sidney Poitier, black man. First of all, he says, with all due respect to us, and then he says, with all due respect, motherfucker, to other people, so it really did. I got called a white motherfucker.

from Karen Morris. So I'm just happy the rest of the day. Like my day is a home run now because it was with love. Do you have any kids? I've got two sons and they're in show business. You're talking to your mother every day. Oh, Jesus.

Are you a motherfucker? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, he got you on a technicality, Dana. Motherfucker is just a great word because of the rhythm of it. Motherfucker. You know, it's a great word. I mean, gosh darn it. That's not, doesn't get it. In my community, gentlemen. You say it better. He's a bad motherfucker, meaning you, Dana, meaning a great guy.

Yeah, I like that. I say of like, oh, Rachel Maddow. I say she's a bad bitch, right? Rather than a motherfucker. Right. She's a bad bitch. Although I don't look at anyone anymore because it depresses me. No, no, no. It's designed to get us all angry. When I was looking at Rachel all the time and what's the other lady? Joy Reed.

you know, I read, yeah, you know, and I remember, you know, yeah, Brian, yeah. So, Brian Williams was my thing until, until the news just started bringing me down. You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony.

which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, yeah.

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. As a Ford owner, there are lots of choices of where you get your vehicle serviced. You can choose to go to their place, the local dealership, your place, home, apartment, condo,

your workplace, even your happy place, like your cottage on the lake. Go to your Ford dealer and choose Ford pickup and delivery to have your vehicle picked up, serviced, and brought right back.

Or choose mobile service where a technician will come to you and do routine maintenance right on the spot. Both are complimentary and depend on your location. That's ownership built around you. Contact your participating dealer or visit FordService.com for important details and limitations. Garrett, before we let you go. Bust me out. Do you still sing?

Dana said you're a good singer. I used to sing high C's. Now I sing low C's. I sing the blues now. I don't sing, you know. Oh, you do any Albert King or who are you singing? Muddy Waters and stuff like that. Muddy Waters? Yeah. My favorite blues singer is Muddy Waters.

Oh, I loved Albert King Blues Power. Albert King was great. That baby and its baby had a baby bed all fussing up. He's got the blues. He's got the good old-fashioned country blues. Remember Albert? Wasn't he magic? And of course, Muddy Waters. That's another guy. Oh, no, Morgan, yes. Yeah.

Lay it on us. Don't be shy. What are you saying with the Harry Belafonte singers? I was with him for like nine years as a... My first job in the business was as a singer-arranger with... Yeah, that's amazing. The Belafonte singers. The Belafonte singers. Yeah, as a 12-member group that he managed.

Right. He's right. Periodically. But these used to sing without him. So we're saying that thing. You put the lime in the coconut. You put it. Right. That was Harry. OK. That was Harry Belafonte. Yeah. Yeah. And then it became a commercial, too. Yeah. Some product. They did. You know.

What about 7 Up is the un-Cola? You can get laid with that. All day.

85, still alive. 86, you're in a fix. 87, you're in heaven. 88, don't be late. 89, won't you be mine? 90, holy heaven, honey. Was this your SNL audition? That was a good one.

I know. I've had dinner with him. Well, Garrett, thank you for coming on with us. Garrett, this has been a delight. You're so much fun. I just feel happier hanging out with you for this hour. Thank you so much, fellas, for even thinking about this old guy.

Yeah, you're a good dude. And it's, you know, we all got a job because of you and the squad up there. Oh, my God. And Lauren and everyone. I just want to say 100 episodes on Jamie Foxx. You were on the Martin show. You're a talented man, OK? Thank you, bud. Extremely talented. And that's how you got your fucking job. We do the best we can. You're terrific. You're tremendous. Excuse me. Many people. Who's better than Garen Moss? Nobody. Listen, many people are saying never better. Nobody's ever done it like him.

Come on, let's get real, folks. No joke. I'm not kidding around. Garrett Morris, here's the deal. Come on. We can do better. We will do better. You got Trump and Biden at the end. I love your impression, man. Thank you, brother. Can we hang out sometime? You got my number. All right, Garrett. Miss you, bud. No, let me thank you guys for this. I appreciate it.

I just really enjoyed this. I know I'm a little fuzzy and my words aren't coming out as well as they normally do because of the dental work, but I got the prior joke out. I completed it and that made my day. It was a three-parter. Yeah. Now I'm going to pack myself an ice, get a B12 shot and crack a Coors Light. We don't want to end the show with the words, suck my dick. Okay?

No, no. What would be the substitution? So instead of saying, suck my dick, you kind of say, how about a handjob, dear? I guess that's a little more benign. Maybe not so dramatic. I got one. Good night, motherfuckers. Hey!

Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, fleas? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com. Folks, we got another AMA to cap it off. This is a Ask Us Anything. Question is, do you have a favorite SNL monologue? One of my all-time favorites is the one where Susan Lucci and the Emmys from 1990. Hey, everyone, Emmy fight.

Neil and wearing an Emmy around his neck spade using Emmy to eat corn on the cob. Oh, I was in that. Yeah, yeah. That was funny. Price says, thank you for the pod. Okay. Well, Dana, do you remember this one? Because I was just a newbie on that one. I know. I wasn't in that one. I don't know what was going on. That was funny though. How is Dana not in something? I was probably changing in to do Bush Senior. I had the bald caps going and all that. You need that 12-minute chunk change. Yeah, I would just put the bald cap on early and just drop all the wigs on top. Anyway.

One that stood out for me during my time. I don't know if you were there for it. It was one Steve Martin. I was going to say fucking Steve Martin sings. Steve Martin sings a song and it becomes a Broadway musical where we run and dance the cast all with Steve. The whole premise, he's done it so much at this point hosting. He's done it so much.

I'm not going to phone it in tonight. And that one really stood out for me. One of the biggest laughs is, yeah, he runs around and he goes, come on, guys. And he picks up cast members along the way. Yeah. And he goes, sing it, Chris. And Farley goes, I'm not going to get super drunk tonight. Yeah.

I won't have a drink till update is through. That's a promise to you, the viewer. Till update's through. And he goes, pretty good, Chris. Good. Yeah. Yeah. But he let everyone sing. And wow, I just thought of that same time as you. I think it was Robert Smuggles, but probably a lot of people joined in on it. But that stood out. Always comedians have great ones. As we mentioned, Kim Kardashian had a great one when she was on.

Not a comedian, but that's sometimes fun when people come out of nowhere and knock one out. Low expectations, and then she delivered. And so there's, over the years, God, I can't pick one. I remember Emmy film was funny. That was, Susan Lucci was, that was a great one. Yeah. And we've been a lot, you know, I like when they bring the cast into a monologue.

Sometimes that's a trick though. If they don't really know what to do, they stack them or if they're too nervous, they want casting. Yeah, there's a lot of Q&A from the audience. That's a great device. Oh, what about Britney Spears and her boobs are moving around? You remember that one? A lot of people think I have fake boobs. But the truth is, and they start going like this in her shirt, they had like some sort of trick. Yeah, yeah.

That got a big laugh. Oh, those were the days, my friend. So thank you for that question, but there's just too many to pick from, I think. Yeah. But we mentioned some good ones. You picked a good one, though, Susan Lucci. We came back with Steve Martin. Whoops. When Steve's on, we got to ask him. Sounds like ours was better. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye-bye. Thank you, David Rivera. Thanks, Dave. And now I hate to say it, but bye-bye. Bye-bye.

This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts. No joke, folks. Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.